Re: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky update
Hello Laurie and list, I think there is a "preponderance of evidence" that indicates Shirokovsky is terrestrial already. Will be interested to see what "specifics" you plan on posting. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com - Original Message - From: Laurie Kallis Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 1:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Shirokovsky update I would like to reply to the many responses I received when I posted the translated Shirokovsky article.1. Our Canadian group did not become involved with the marketing of Shirokovsky until March of this year, so we were not involved in anyway with the transactions that occured in Tucson. But, if the preponderance of evidence indicates that Shirokovsky is terrestrial, we will honor refunds on any sales we have made. Where possible, we will assist, with facilitating refunds on any purchases made through our sister organization in Russia.2. We expect to hear the results of current testing this week. I will post specifics as soon as they are available.Thank you for the patience most of you have shown.Laurie Kallis_STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1955 Meteorite Lands Near Villiscan, Iowa (?)
Title: Council Bluffs Nonpareil City: Council Bluffs, Iowa Date: Saturday, July 23, 1955 Page: 6-C The Week's Mail section, noted as "The warm and interesting events in the lives of Iowa residents as reported by the Nonparell correspondents or recounted by columnists in other newspapers." Stars really fell for a Villiscan recently, according to a story in Villisca Review. George Rhamy of Villisca reports that what appears to be a meteorite fell right in his garden. The stone, triangular in shape and about 3 1/2 inches long with a base 2 inches in length on each side, seared a path through several hills of tomatoes, beets, and beans. The ground was baked around where the stone fell and a sulphur-like odor came from the hole it made when Rhamy pulled it up, he reported.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 06-1977 Claim Delays Old Woman Meteorite Research
Paper: Lethbridge Herald City: Lethbridge, Alberta, Canada Date: Saturday, June 18, 1977 Page: 9 $1 million claim delays meteorite research work OLD WOMAN'S MOUNTAIN, Calif. (AP) - A U.S. Marine helicopter dropped into a crevice of this rocky desert moutain Friday and plucked out a three-ton meteorite, the second largest found in the United States. The find had scientists mouths watering as they waited to cut into the three-foot by four-foot rock that slammed into this wilderness hundreds of years ago. The Smithsonian Institution's curator of meteorite, Dr. Roy Clarke, was at one site 200 miles east of Los Angeles and called the meteorite "very important scientific material." But the Smithsonian and scientists may have to wait before cutting on the meteorite because three miners claim the rock is theirs and will go to court to keep it. The miners discovered the meteorite two years ago while searching for the legendary Lost Arch Spanish Gold Mine. They told reporters that they filed a claim in San Bernardino. "We always figured it was going to end up int he hands of the scientific community." said David Friberg of Twentynine Palms.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1896 Meteorite Kills Children, Brings Rain
Paper: Fort Wayne News City: Fort Wayne, Indiana Date: Tuesday, July 14, 1896 Page: 1 METEOR FALLS Strikes a House and Kills Two Children - Brings Rain Chichihua, Mex., July 14. - Particulars have reached here of the fall of a meteor in a small mining town of Santos Reis, this state. The meteor was of immense size and as it descended through the air it was a molten mass of metal. It made its descent at noon, and was accompanied by a report louder than that made by a cannon. It struck the house of a miner and demolished the building killing two children and then buried itself in the ground to a great depth. A large part of the meteor was broken off when it struck, and it was sent to the National museum at the City of Mexico. There has been no rain in that section for nearly a year, but within twenty minutes after the fall of the meteor the sky became overcast with clouds and a heavy fall of rain took place.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1896 Meteorite Kills Children, Brings Rain
Hello Mike and List, Mike asked "Is there other evidence that two boys were killed in 1896 by a meteorite? I was under the impression that there were no reported cases of people being killed by meteorites." This article dates pretty close to the time of our "Meteorite Fiend". The late 1800's saw several newspaper articles about meteorites hitting people, houses and the like that do not appear to be true. These were articles that mostly surfaced from some institution like the associated press. You can read more this Meteorite Fiend here in this old newspaper article... http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znp06241886.html And find several examples of his handy work here... http://www.meteoritearticles.com/newspaper1800archive.html I have about 70+ old newspapers articles I need to transcribe and hope to find time to update the site soon. At about 450 pages now, it has been growing quite well, and is likely the largest meteorite related website. Even still, if anyone has any meteorite newspaper articles you do not see posted on my website let me know. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1896 Meteorite Kills Children, Brings Rain
Hello Ken and list, That's funny. Me and Ken were both thinking about the same article. For what it's worth fake meteorite articles seem to drop off by the 1920's. Perhaps I will research the associated press history shortly. Mark - Original Message - From: magellon Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 8:39 PM To: tett Cc: MARK BOSTICK; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1896 Meteorite Kills Children, Brings Rain Mike, Mark and All,Actually there are lots of News articles of meteorite fatalities.The question is "Are they true?"This news article may help:http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2003-March/018369.htmlWhen there is no meteoritic evidence on record, I catalogue it as false. Best,kenhttp://home.earthlink.net/~magellon/news1.html
Re: [meteorite-list] Need help naming new group
Hello Adam, Greg and list, Ernst Florenz Friedrich Chladni was the first person to propose meteorites and fireballs were related and the to suggest they were bodies from space, so with that in mind. I will suggest Chladnite. Two people that have done a lot for meteorites in the last thirty years would be Brian Mason or John Wasson. This would give us Masonite or Wassonite. Brian Mason would be the better choice here because of his work at chondrite classification. Now if we were looking for federal funding for meteorites.Bushite might be a way to go. That doesn't really ring well. And of course, if you wanted to use Bostickite, I would be honored. (Just kidding.) Thanks for the thought provoking e-mail. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 10:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Need help naming new group Dear List Members,It is our pleasure to announce NWA 1877, (provisional) the second so-called"Olivine Diogenite" in private hands. This makes number five including thethree Antarctic finds. The significance of it being number five is that itnow qualifies to be promoted to main group status if approved by theNomenclature Committee. Scientists who are working on it agree that thisultra-rare class is suited in every way for a new full-blown group and arewilling to propose this new group. Since O-Isotopes place this from thesame parent body as the HED group, naming this new group would be ahistory-making event. A main group has never been added to the HEDassemblage, only subgroups.This is not paired with NWA 1459, which was found in Iriqui and only weighed49 grams. Weighing in at 312 grams, NWA 1877, (provisional) is the mostolivine-rich yet found with ~50% of this mineral. The scientists who areworking on it suggested coming up with a new name for this group sinceDiogenite, by definition, does not accurately describe this type ofmeteorite. The name "Olivine Diogenite" was coined by scientists working onthe Antarctic finds for lack of a better term at the time. If these fivewere from Earth they would be called "Harzburgitic Peridotites" but youcannot use terrestrial terms to name meteorite types. This is where theList may be able to help. Scientists suggested that the meteoriticcommunity, meaning the List, come up with a name for this group.We do not know what to call this proposed new group since none of them arefrom witnessed falls. It was suggested that it be named in honor of somefamous pioneer in the field of meteoritics or some closely relateddiscipline. We are open to suggestions and know that List members can bevery creative. Who knows? you may be able to become a part of history bycoming up with a suitable name.In case you have not guessed this will be the weekly rare materialannouncement but with some added flare because it is something anyone couldget involved in if they wished. If you come up with a suitable name wewill send you a 1-gram plus specimen free of charge.Wishing everybody the very best,Adam and Greg HupeThe Hupe CollectionIMCA 2185__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Need help naming new group
Hello Adam and list, I also agree that the group should get more concise name. Calling them "Olivine Diogenites" is like calling a Howardite a "Diogenite Eucrite". It is a the best confusing. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Weekly Rare Material
Hello Adam and list, Adam wrote: " I will take some images of the main mass and see if I can point out some areas of interest in a few days." And perhaps some thin section photos? I am curious in how it looks compared to diogenites, as my diogenite thin sections look like they have lots of olivine in them. Mark PS: Any thin sections of it for sale?
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 08-1883 Organic Carbon in Meteorites
Title: Reno Evening News City: Reno, Nevada Date: Friday, August 31, 1883 EDITORIAL NOTES Mons. Daubree has analysed a meteorite, which fell in the province of Eutre-Rios, in the Argentina Republic, and finds that it contains iron, lime, magnesia and carbon in an organic form. The last discovery leads him to hope that he may some day find organic remains in a meteorite. It may be recollected that Sir William Thompson, in 1871, suggested that idea that even living organic germs may have been brought to the earth by meteorites, and that the present animal an vegetable life of our planet had its origin in the germs thus introduced. This speculation gives a special interest in any remains or other evidence tending to show that meteorites, or the worlds of which they may have once formed a part ever bore living forms.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 04-02 1880 Death By Meteors
Title: Bismarck Tribune City: Bismarck, North Dakota Date: Friday, April 02, 1880 Death by Meteors Mr. Proctor wrote: "I have received several inquiries, some of them rather auxious inquiries, respecting the dangers to be fared from meteoric downfall. If we know the average number of meteoric masses which break their way through the earth's armor - that is, through the "firmament," expanse of ether, pure transparent elemental air - it wold be very easy to calculate the exact chance of dearth by meteoric downfall. As a matter of fact, we have no satisfactory evidence on this point, because ost of the meteorites which fall upon the earth escape attention. I suppose, however, that if Prof. Newtpm, of Yale College, rightly assumes the number of falling stars of all orders to be 400,000,000 yearly, we may fairly assume that about 4,000 meteorites fall annually upon the earth's surface. This allows one meteorite for 100,000 falling stars. Now let us take the total number of human beings at any one time on the earth as 1,500,000,000, Assume the risk of persons within doors equal to that of persons in the open air - for a meteorite falling on a house would not be seriously interrupted in its course, since it would travel with a velocity of several miles per second. Again, remembering that the meteors do not fall vertically, nor, even if they did, do men always stand upright, we must take a larger surface for each person that that which he presents as seen from above when standing. We may take a square ueard for an adult, and perhaps a quarter fo a square yard for the average human being. Now, the earth's surface contains about 200,000,000 square miles, each containing about 3,000,000 square yards - in all 2,400,000,000,000,000 quarter square yards. Thus the chance of a single meteorite striking some one is as fifteen in 24,000,000 or as one in 1,600,000; and if 400 meteorites fall per aunum, the cahnce of one death occurring in any given year is about 1-400th. On the average one death by a meteor strike might be expected to occur in 400 years. If it is true, as I have recently stated, that nine such deaths have occurred in the last 900 years, it would appear probable that 16,000 meteorites, instead of 4,000, annually reach the earth."Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 03-1882 Fall of a Meteor
Title: Stevens Point Daily Journal City: Stevens Point, Wisconsin Date: Saturday, March 18, 1882 Fall of a Meteor. An immense meteortie fell about fifty miles southeast of Fort Assinaboine, Arizona, on the night of the 10th inst., its glare lighting the country for many miles around. Four minutes after striking the earth the report was heard in Assinaboine, sounding like the discharge of a heavy-gun, and the earth was perceptibly shaken. The shock was also felt at Fort Benton and the coal banks, nearly one hundred miles south. The meteorite has not yet been found. Mark Bostick note: Fort Assinaboine and Fort Benton are both in Montana and not Arizona, this appears to be a newspaper error. Also, I could find no recovered meteorite that fell in Montana (or anywhere else) during that date.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 09-1886 Meteor Falls in Charleston Bay
Title: Newark Daily Advocate City: Newark, Ohio Date: Tuesday, September 07, 1886 Page: 1 A Meteor Falls in Charleston Bay. CHARLESTON, S. C., Sept. 7. - But few people saw the meteor which fell in the bay here Sunday night. Three or four sailors describe it vividly. Mr. E. T. Riddick, correspondent of the New York Star, had a fair view of it, and to a reporter said: "I was on the battery at the time the meteor was seen. My attention was directed to it by a reflection on the water. It was exactly 11:15 p.m. When first discovered it was 275 degrees azimuth and 90 degrees elevation. It was in the sky southeast by south and went down diagonally in a westerly direction. At 30 degrees elevation it burst into a million pieces. When first seen it was a green color, then it became yellow with a green tail, and just as it burst, it turned red, nd fragments resembled balls of fire. The meteor looked and acted like a rocket, and appeared to the eye to be thirty or fourty feet across. It was visible about seven seconds. Mr. W. H. McDongal, an artist for the New York World, also saw the meteor and confirms the description of Mr. Riddick.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 237
Hello Steve and List, Steve wrote: Hi ther list.I am just checking who happens to have the main mass of NWA237!I know the tkw is only 61.6 grams.I have a 3.38 gram slice.I amlooking to aquire some more if anyone has any forsale.Please let me know. I think there was an error on the reporting of the total weight on that meteorite. The meteorite was purchased by Michael Cottingham and Michael Farmer in 2000. I purchased a slice that is 22 grams from Cottingham and his card it came with reports at total weight of 1350 grams. The slice has a nice large inclusion and I have a nice photo of it on my website here... http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colnwa237.html Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com PS: Sorry, it's not for sale, but I might be willing to trade it;-) - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 8:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 237 Hi ther list.I am just checking who happens to have the main mass of NWA237!I know the tkw is only 61.6 grams.I have a 3.38 gram slice.I amlooking to aquire some more if anyone has any forsale.Please let me know. steve arnold=Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com__Do you Yahoo!?SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!http://sbc.yahoo.com__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Denver show in >3 months
Hello List, Just a short reminder that the Denver show is less then 3 months away. While I have found there is plenty of lodging in Denver...you could show up without any hotel/motel plans and get a room no problem. Plane tickets are likely cheap right now through services such as www.priceline.com and its competitors, and it's a good time for those with families and demanding jobs to make plans. Hope to see you there, Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansasabout 500 miles from DenverPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 237
Hello Steve, Michael and Frank, Michael Blood wrote: What is "MB85?" Frank wrote: Looks like MB85 is Meteoritical Bulletin 85. You are correct Frank. Sorry for the confusion, I used information off from my computer were it is abbreviated. I have updated the webpage, changing MB85 and adding the specimen card. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colnwa237.html Mark Bostick
Re: [meteorite-list] Need help naming new group
Dave wrote: Perhaps just as a slightly "cleaner" version, might using"HED-group peridotite" rather than "HED-clan peridotite" bea bit better? >From my understanding you would say clan. Like eucrites are a clan, and within eucrites you have several groups or different types of eucrites, such as Polymict Eucrite or Unbrecciated Eucrite. Given a few more finds (or more study?), the different Peridotites would receive groups names. It should be noted that nobody calls eucrites, "HED-group eucrites", so would not the name, if decided upon, just be "Peridotite", or should the HED-group part be carried to not confuse people with an earth peridot? Personally, I still like the thought of using historical names for clans, and then the more scientific words added to define the groups. I do however see logic in using names that are easy to recognize for the average geologist. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Webpole and FREE Nininger Museum Postcard
Hello Everybody, In light of the recent news about the upcoming presidential election, I have added another feature to my website, a meteorite webpole. Such as "Favorite Iron", "Favorite Mars Meteorite",... Please take the time, about 1 minute, to answer the meteorite questions and the site will show you how you compare to how others answered. It will also show you how I answered the question. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/webpole.html Also, once again I am offering a free promotion. This time I am giving away 100 free Nininger Museum postcards! Yes, you read that right, 100. However, you must be a US resident, and I will only be putting a postcard stamp on the back of them, so it is possible for them to get damaged in the mail. (Although I do have them for sale, which I will safely package up and mail...but hey, this is a free offer and I don't wish to be spending the next week packaging freebies). I have always admired Nininger and this is a small token in his honor. Offer is good for the next week. Thanks, Mark BostickPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] Expensive?
Hello Matteo and list, You wrote: Tenham, $6-10/gr. now I have buy for$1.2/gr. I would say Tenham still is worth $6-10/g. Just because you bought the Tenham one time from an auction started low for $1.2/g does not mean that is it's price. Show me some Tenham anywhere for $1.20/g. One can buy a few pieces of Park Forest right now for $15-16/g but I do not see it remaining at that price. I think there has only been about 3 kilos released onto the collectors market. It will be interesting to see if the newly found big one will get cut up or not. Try to find any Park Forest picked up the first or second day for under $20/g. or even $30/g for that matter. Zagami was $1000-$2000/g...and sometimes even morewhen it was one of the only martians available on the market. We saw an eBay auction last year were Zagami went for like $120/g. Do you think anyone would sell you any for that price? So what I am saying is, I don't see a meteorite have a "retail" price until it's been out for a while...long enough to establish one. And one auction does not set the market value either. I once purchased a 2kg sikhote on eBay for $110.00. Anyone want to sell me some for $.06 a gram? Mark
[meteorite-list] Free Ninninger Postcard
Hello again, Since I have recieved a few e-mails already all asking the same question I thought I would clarify the postcard offer. It is not associated with the poll, to receive one, just send me your addressand live in the US. MarkPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] Fw: Meteorite Webpole and FREE Ninninger Museum Postcard
Hello All, I see the list is acting funny and has removed or for the moment removed several of the archives this month. I sent this earlier today and haven't seen it come through yet so please ignore if it is a repeat. Mark - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 7:05 PM To: Meteorite List; MeteoriteArticles Mailinglist Subject: Meteorite Webpole and FREE Ninninger Museum Postcard Hello Everybody, In light of the recent news about the upcoming presidential election, I have added another feature to my website, a meteorite webpole. Such as "Favorite Iron", "Favorite Mars Meteorite",... Please take the time, about 1 minute, to answer the meteorite questions and the site will show you how you compare to how others answered. It will also show you how I answered the question. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/webpole.html Also, once again I am offering a free promotion. This time I am giving away 100 free Ninninger Museum postcards! Yes, you read that right, 100. However, you must be a US resident, and I will only be putting a postcard stamp on the back of them, so it is possible for them to get damaged in the mail. (Although I do have them for sale, which I will safely package up and mail...but hey, this is a free offer and I don't wish to be spending the next week packaging freebies). I have always admired Ninninger and this is a small token in his honor. Offer is good for the next week. Thanks, Mark BostickPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] Henbury Crater Photos
A customer sent me a few Henbury crater photos and I asked if I could share them. I had never seen any modern photos of what the crater looks like from the ground so I though others might be interested in seeing them as well. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colhenburycrater.html Looks like some rough hiking area. Perhaps I should have voted different on my meteorite pole Mark BostickPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] Dealer Refunds
Hello Steve Arnold (IMB) and list, The Park Forest thread was interesting, and it is a very nice "historic" meteorite with a nice story. I still think we have seen very little of this meteorite on the market for what the demand is and therefore the meteorite does have good potential to go up in value. It is almost three months after the fall and while the hype and the price has dropped, it still ranked favorite fall on my recent...and ongoing...meteorite poll. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/webpole.html An interesting note it is also currently 2nd place in "Most Overpriced Meteorite" All of that being said, I would have to agree with the many others, that...this "dealer"should have been aware of hype pricing...and that the price of the meteorite would settle. I invested more then a few dollars in a local major airplane stock a few years ago. (Wichita is...or was...the airplane capital of the world). Then 9-11 happened. The local economy has been hit pretty hard, more then 1/3 of the city has been laid off. People have left Boeing and Lear Jet and are now working at McDonald's. I think I would get laughed at pretty hard if I called Boeing and asked for a refund. (Of course I would settle for a small personal jet...:-) But I understood the risk that was on the table. Had the news of late 1991 been a couple big military contracts for the company, I could now be in Mali drinking a Jack and Coke and yelling at the barely English speaking waiter for something to snack on. I've made some good meteorite deals and some poor ones. Still, the more the market drops, the happier I am. This means I can justify buying more. Now, if only Mars meteorites would drop under $100 a gram.. My 2% of Fa., Mark Bostick PS: I guess now is a good of time as any for congrads to Steve Arnold (IMB) for the awesome work he did in Park Forest. Steve and his tackle boxes are coming to a fall near you.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] Dealer Refunds Denial #495
It wasn't me. I think it was (insert the name of someone you don't like here...although the clever detective should have narrowed it down to one of two people). Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
[meteorite-list] Stropes NWA998 and Dealer Refund Comment
Hello List, Thought I would follow Steve Schoner's lead and share photos of my NWA998 thin section that I got from Jim Strope as well. Jim's currant auction is a great value and had I not already had the thin section I would seriously consider bidding. NWA998 through Schoner's Polarview and my microscope http://www.meteoritearticles.com/files/NWA998ts.JPG NWA998 using only Schoner's Polarview http://www.meteoritearticles.com/files/NWA998polarview.JPG Note: Photos were taken through my camera (Nikon 990) but not touched up. The photo using only the Polarview was the first time I had tried to use it by itself and was surprized how great it turned out. I don't have any good light inside my house so I took it outdoors and was holding it up funny trying to get the camera under it. This attracted the attention of some of the neighborhood kids. They ran across ot my porch and asked, "What are you taking a photo of?" (I buy the neighborhood kids ice cream from time to time if they agree to leave the rocks outside my door alone...so they always look to see what I am up to). "A Mars rock." I calmly answered. "Really" One of them replied. "No Way!" declared another. Kids being kids, one shoved one of the others and was quickly insulted. "Your a Mars rocks!" "No you are!" Then they ran offperhaps to bother another neighbor in hopes of getting free ice cream. Anyway, my point in this story is that the kids saw the Mars rock as not believable. Something made up. Unreal or at the best surreal. Much like out currant "Dealer Refund" string. So to the person asking for a refund from Steve Arnold. You my friend, are a Mars rock. PS, here is a link to Jim's auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2180703252&category=3239 Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.comPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] Largest Single R Chondrite?
Does anyone know what the largest single R-chondrite (desert) stone known is? Thanks, Mark BostickPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] Website Update, Meteorite Chat Room
Hello Everybody, Still working on my website, I seem to continue to add 4-7 pages a day to it. One of the new pages today, if the subject line didn't tell you...is a meteorite chat room. While I do not in any way see this as a rival to the list here, sometimes it is easier to be able to talk back and forth in a fashion that the list does not let you do. It is after 3 in the mourning here...so after I send this I will be going to sleep likely...but I will try to spend some time tomorrow in the room letting everyone test it out. Perhaps, if others wanted to, we could meet once a week at a certain time. (Which from my understanding is how this list started). http://www.meteoritearticles.com/chatroom.html Automated features like the chat room and my recent poll are easy work on us webmastersor at least after they are built...so I will look at ways to continue to add more to my site. Mark Bostick Wichita, KansasPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] Website Update, Meteorite Chat Room
Hello Bill and list, I left your message attached as I didn't see it get posted to the listit's funny like that sometimes. It has Bill's new e-mail address so some of you might want to update address books. Which reminds me Bill, did you get your new stock of the iron prevention stuff in? I carry strange hours and am usually up late in the late...but mostly I just don't sleep, so talking to me isnt too hard. If I'm not in the chat room...which I imagine I won't be much of the time...send me an e-mail and if I'm on-line I will pop in. I agree, no selling (please). You'll make us call you nasty nameslike brother of Steve Arnold (Chicago). Mark - Original Message - From: Bill Mason Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 2:09 PM To: 'MARK BOSTICK'; 'Meteorite List' Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Website Update, Meteorite Chat Room GREAT IDEA…NO SELLING, ZIP, technical, helpful, constructive. GREAT IDEA, MARK Do I have to stay up till three to talk with you?humor? Bill Mason we are getting new addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] MeteoriteArticles.com Chat Room....Chat Hours
Hello List, After talking with a couple of people today, it was decided that it would be a good ideal to come up with two talk times a day, so some of us could time each other out. The Chat Room will stay open 24 hours a day but this should help some of us time each other out, better. So I have come up with the following two times, let me know what you guys and gals think of those hours. If the site catches on there are likely to be people there during all times of the daybut this might help it get going. One is 7pm central time and the other is 2am central time for you late birds. 7pm central time is 6pm mountain time, 5 pm pacific time, 8pm eastern time, 4pm alaska, 2pm Hawaii, 1am London *GMT), 2am Rome, 3am Jerusalem, 5am Baku, 8am Hong Kong, 11am Tokyo and 12 noon Sydney. 2am central time is 1am mountain time, Midnight pacific time, 3am eastern time, Midnight alaska, 10pm Hawaii, 9am London *GMT), 10am Rome, 11am Jerusalem, 1pm Baku, 2pm Hong Kong, 3pm Tokyo and 4pm Sydney. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.comPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay help????
Hello Tom, Click "Sell" tab on top of page, Choose type of auction... Next page let you choose catagory. Meteorites are in the collectibles section, under the "Rocks, Fossils, Minerals" section. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
[meteorite-list] Arts Birthday Present or ATTEN: Mike Farmer
Hello List and Mike Farmer, I noticed Michael Blood asked about Art's birthday present and as one of the people that sent you money and suggested to other list members that it would be a nice thing to do, I thought I would also ask, Did Art get his gift from the list? I am sure other list members are curious as well. Mark Bostick PS: I am currantly in my chatroom http://www.meteoritearticles.com/chatroom.htmlPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] Fine Article Reconstructing Fragmented Meteorite Finds
Adam wrote: I am sure most everybody has read the article "Reconstructing FragmentedMeteorite Finds" written by Robert Verish in the online mag "meteoritetimes." Hello Adam and list, I agree I really enjoyed the article. A few of the puzzles Verish used in his article are now in my collection, as Verish once told told, I'm meteorite puzzled. It was nice to see the stories behind them and to get a better ideal of the work that Verish and company are doing out there. Anyway, thanks for the article Verish. Meteorite Puzzle Gallery: http://www.meteoritearticles.com/goldbasinpuzzle.html Hoping you find another puzzle, Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com PS: The chatroom is coming along well. (http://www.meteoritearticles.com/chatroom.html) Several people are in it right now if anyone is interested.
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[meteorite-list] NP Article, 08-1907 Meteorite Joke
Paper: Marion Daily Star City: Marion, Ohio Date: Friday, August 23, 1907 Page: 8 MISS KLUMPKE'S JOKE Miss Dorothea Klumpke, the astronomer, speaks of the difficulties and inies that astronomy presents to the lay mind. "For instance.' she said, smiling, 'There is the well known case of the meteorite that fell on a Vermont farm in 1829. It was a valuable meteorite, and the landlord at once stepped up and claimed it. 'All minerals and metals on the land belong to me,' he said. 'That's in the lease.' The tenant demurred, 'This meteorite,' he said, 'wasn't on the farm, you must remember, when the lease was drawn up.' "The landlord perceived the justice of that claim. He thought a moment. Then he said decisively. 'I claim her as flying game.' "But the tenant was ready for him. 'It's got neither wings nor feathers.' he said, 'Therefore, as ground game. It's mine." "They continued their argument, and in the heat of the it a revenue officer, arriving with a truck proceeded to put the meteorite aboard. 'I claim her for the goverment.' he said, 'as an article introduced into the country without payment of duty!"Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 09-1922 Meteor Discharges Gas In Its Flight
Paper: Gettysburg Times City: Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Date: Tuesday, September 12, 1922 Page: 6 Meteor Discharges Gas In Its Flight Explosion Shatters Windows and Fumes Almost Overpower New Jersey Residents Asbury Park, NY - A meteor, discharging gases flashed through space to the south of here and disappeared in a thunderous roar, frightening residents of many coast towns. Window panes in residents in Tools River were shattered by the explosion, and the gases, polluting the atmosphere for more then a quarter of an hour, compelled the residents to hold dampened handkerchuefs to their nostrils. In Lakehurst many of the buildings were shaken, but the gases were not noticed. The astmospheric phenomenom is said to have last for about a minute. Only a tiny streak of light at first, it became beautifully colored as it neared earth and at times appeared to halt momentarily in space, adopt a new course, then zig-zag back again. The meteor fell into the sea, about a mile off shore, at Seaside Park, 35 miles south of here, with an explosion that shook residences and threw spray to a great height. Volumes of steam then arose, and drilling ashore, nauseated many. The meteor is described as having the appearance of a gigantic airplane on fire.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 01-1926 Meteor Falls South of Rushmore
Title: Iowa Recorder City: Greene, Iowa Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1926 Page: 3 Otto Bartz, of Sheldon, O'Brian county, says that a meteor fell into the field on the Carl Broman farm south of Rushmore recently, with a ray of light that lit up miles around. At the Broman home it was as light as day for a few seconds. The meteor stone was about the size of a half bushel basket.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1925 Meteors fall in Neb and SD
Paper: Coshocton Tribune City: Coshocton, Ohio Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1925 Page: 3 SIOUX CITY, Ia., July 23 - Local scientific circles are greatly interested in the reports of falling meteors at Ponca, Neb., and at Hot Springs, South Dakota. Twice within the last six-months a meteor has fallen near the Dennis O'Flaherty home, three and one-half miles west of Ponca. The latest heavenly visitor was about ten inches in diameter and reached the O'Flaherty home abuot ten o'clock at night. Mr. and Mrs. O'Flaherty were awakened by a loud hissing noise and saw a ball of fire strike an electric light wire and fall to the ground, where it burned for some time. The electric wire fell across the barbed wire fences and electrocuted two steers that were standing by the fence. The electric current followed the barbed wire to the a gate post and scorched it where ti have already been scorched by a meteor that fell near the post six months before TOO HOT TO HANDLE The O'Flahertys watched the fireball for several hours. At 6 o'clock the next afternoon Mr. O'Flaherty and several of his neighbors dug up parts of the meteor and found it still too hot to handle Near Hot Springs A. A. Hardin was driving along the highway when a bright, comet-like flame swept over the sky. He saw a brilliant red fire ball fall in a pasture. Hardin left his car, climbed the fence and ran to the spot where he saw the fire ball land. A colu,m of smoke was rising from the gass. He discovered the smoke was emanating from a red hot object, smaller than a baseball - a meteor. The meteor had torn a large hole in the ground. Later when the meteor cooled the metal mass was weighed and found to be exactly two pounds heavy. Mark note: I could find no other reference to these possible meteorite fallsPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
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[meteorite-list] eBay Sellers list, eBay name change
Hello List, Just a note to all, that I am "meteoritesandmore", formally [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I have been getting an increasing number of spam because of using my e-mail address, something I always thought helped make a seller a little more comfortable. But after being suggested by eBay, like 1000 times, I haven decided it best not to use my e-mail address anymore. Mark Bostick Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 06-1958 Tektites from Moon projection calculated
Paper: Coshocton Tribune City: Coshocton, Ohio Date: Thursday, June 12, 1958 Page: 7 Scientists Uncertain on Orgins of Strange "Moon Bits" Found in U.S. By Delos Smith NEW YORK - (UPI) - A hot scientifc arguement of this very moment is over the question of whether or not little pieces of the moon are scattered here and there on the earh's surface. There are little pieces of something scattered around all right, and if they're not pieces of the moon then what on earth are they? The origin of these strange, glassy rounded bits called tektites have puzzled scientists for generations. C. M. Varsavsky, brilliant young Argentine astrophysicists who is taking advanced studies at Harard, started the argument by producing mathematical calculations intended to show that tektites are pieces of the moon. His idea was that meteors colliding with the moon chipped off pieces, which is most plausible. The moon is pock-marked with innumerable craters evidently made by meters. It is logical to assume that collisions of such force would have had to send parts of the moon hurtling into space. Varasavsky's mathematics showed how these pieces could have spiraled, ever so slowly, down to earth. But now come three distinguished scientists, including Dr. Harold C. Urey, famous atomic scientists and Nobel Prize winner of the University of Chicago, with arguments designed to shatter his theory into pieces even smaller then tektites. Urey objected chiefly on chemical grounds. Tektites are largely silica and alumina. They are bits of rocks which evidently were made in extremely hot and long enduring fire. If tektites were moon pieces then the moon's fire - made rocks are quite different from earth's, which Urey though most unlikely. The principal objection of Dr. Virgil T. Barces of the University of Texas, was on the matter of distribution. Barnes, by the way was the first man to identify a belt of tektite deposits in the United States. It is in Texas. IIf the theory were correct, he reasoned, you'd find tektites distributed in a wide belt around the earth. Furthermore, you'd find then in all the earth's layers of rocks because the spiraling of moon pieces would have been going on over eons of time. But tektites have been found only in widely separated groups - in Indonesia, in Australia, in the Libyan Desert, and among ancient rocks along a 120-mile strip through five Texas counties. And they're found in only a few of the earth's rock layers and these few are widely separated. This shows there has been no more or less continuous rain of moon pieces or of tektites. Dr. Zdeoek Kopal, astronomer of the University of Manchester, England,objected to Varsavasky's mathematics. He granted that Varsavsky had constructed mass particles trajectories which could bring something from the moon to the earth. But if tektites were chipped off the moon by meteors, the beginning of their trajectories toward the earth would have been different that Varsavsky calculated, and the chips wouldn't have reached earth. Kopal said. In Kopal's opinion, the origin of tektites "must be sought neared to the terrestiral surface than the moon." In other words, science doesn't know where they came from, but they didn't come from the moon.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay theft! My description.
Dave wrote: Again Mike got payed for it via his PayPal link. I think I'd swap personal info with this bozo just to see who it is. Strange indeed. Hello Mike, David, Gregory and list, That is really kinda funny. His meteorite auctions seem to have went well...maybe we should submit him to one of the stupid criminal things...if the bidder did use pay pal. Let hope he gets stopped before he starts thinking too hard and figures out his error. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Small Irons
Hello Sarah and list, Hope all is well therewe have not heard much from you lately. There is a dealer in Tucson that everyone knows, however, I think I am about to misspell his name. Bud Eisler...close to that. I am sure another list member can help you with the correct name and contact him. Bud had several small baskets of different little irons, like Mundrilla and Gibeon at the Tucson show, last year. Didn't see him this year, but I didn't have a chance to meet up with everyone I would have liked to. I imagine he still has a few hundred or so left. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
Re: [meteorite-list] DOD Satellites Detect March 2003 Bolide Over Park Forest
Rob wrote: Just try and get into the Olympia Fields Country Club. What a hunting ground it would have been Hello Rob and list, Yes, I agree. Anyone want to join me for a par 87 hole. I think I could spend enough time looking for a lost ball to drive the cabby crazy. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
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Adam wrote: 1.) Piece of glass from window that was broken by meteorite2.) Piece of ceiling joist from attic broken by meteorite3.) Piece of venetian blind that was split down the center by meteorite4.) Piece of ceiling sheet-rock punched out by meteorite5.) Micro specimen of actual Garza Stone from 24.6g fragment found in house6.) 5" X 6" Riker display box7.) Certificate of Authenticity8.) Copy of Affidavit signed by Noe Garza9.) Built-in images of Robert Garza's bedroom I like the photo you "housed" the items in. Sounds like a very nice kit. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
[meteorite-list] NP Article, Gettysburg Times 03-1959 Washington County, CO Meteorite Proven
Paper: Gettysburg Times City: Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Date: Monday, March 30, 1959 EVIDENCE OF ODD-BALLS IN METEORITES CAMBRIDGE, Mass (AP) - Evidence of odd-balls among the meteorites from outer space - fancy enough to be mistaken for machined iron - was reported today by two atomic scientists. Identification of one such strange object - differing somewhat from all other known meteorites - was reported to a meeting of the American Physical Society, convened at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. The report cleared up one puzzle that has plagued scientists for 40 years. However, it left unaswered how this object, and possibly others like it still undiscovered, took on features differing fron those of run-of-the-mill meteorites that sometimes reach the earth. Found in 1916 Physicists David Fisher and Olivier A. Schaeffer said the object they studied was a chunk of iron found imbedded in the soil of Washington County, Colorado, way back in 1916. Ever since its discovery, they said, there has been uncertainty as to whether it was an iron meteorite - or just a chunk of forging discarded by some craftsman of the past. For one thing, the object's overall appearance suggested it "might have been machined." Sure It's Meteorite The researchers - both of the U.S. Atmoic Energy Commission's Brookhaven National Laboratory at Upton, N.Y. - said they recently solved the riddle by applying a finding made several years ago by scientists in several countries. This was the discovery that all meteorites, as they hurtled through space, acquired quantites of gaseous helium - the latter being produced by the action of cosmic rays on the material of the meteorite. While the researchers voiced certainty that the Colorado specimen is meteoric, they offered no immediate explanation from all other iron meteorites that occasionally reach the earth from outer space. Mark Note: This meteorite is known as the Washington County meteorite, Meteorites A to Z, list the following information: Ungrouped Ataxite, Found Washington County, Colorado, 1927, 1 stone of 5.750kg.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 01-1958 Meteor Explodes Over Midwest
Paper: Joplin Globe City: Joplin, Missouri Date: Friday, January 03, 1958 BRIGHT OBJECT IN SKY OBSERVED Scientists Believe Brilliant Spectacle in Midwest Was Caused by Meteorite St. Louis, An. 2 (AP) - Scientists say a brilliant object which flashed across the skies in the Midwest today apparently was a meteorite. Many observers said the object appeared to explode. The scientists also discounted any possibility that it was the death plunge of Sputnik I. Sightings were reported from Missouri, Illinois and Ohio. Ten Illinois State Police cars made reports on the object and three law officers were among those sighting it in Ohio. It was variously described as a brilliant blue-white, greenish and fiery red. A few observers reported it was accompanied by a sonic roar, others heard no noise. In earth of the state, observers said it appeared to plunge earthward and explode. All the sightings were between 12:10 and 12:15 a.m. (CST) A scientist at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory said the fireball apparently was a meteorite. Edwin E. Friton of St. Louis, regional director of the American Meteor Society, and director Stuart L. O'Bryne of the St. Louis Moonwatch Operation, said the orbit of the Russian satellite would have placed it over St. Louis an hour and a half earlier than the time of the sightings. The fireball appeared to move slower than the usual meteor to W. V. Finley, engineer of the Frisco freight train traveling in southeast Missouri. "It suddenly blew up," he said "a shower of sparks went out in all directions." It was described as a "Huge greenish ball of fire about 10 feet in diameter," by observers at Springfield, Ohio.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] Marquez, TX ??
Hello Anne and list, A curious Anne wrote: "Has anyone ever visited the site? or seen breccia and shattercones from it?" (In a small effort from me to return the list to meteorite discussion...) As Philip Burns noted, Ed Albin was a couple years ago selling Marquez shattercones and impact breccia. Around this time I traded for small sample of each from him. While I can not seem to locate the shattecone, here is a sample of the breccia. Although this is a small sample (14.5g), it reminds me more of the impactite from Azura then any of the other well collected impact breccia's. Angular inclusions are fairly small, 6-10 mm. Photo link http://www.meteoritearticles.com/files/Marquez.JPG Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
[meteorite-list] Where Did The Moon Come From? - Meteorite Contest Dave Answer
e they click "SEND". Here is Rand's response to these e-mailsfood for thought. Hi everybody. This is Rand. No, I'm not a scientist. I don't work for NASA. I'm not a mathematician. I don't have a collection of meteorites. I'm not wealthy by any means. I'm just a regular, average guy trying to figure things out the best I can. So far I've spent 18.5 years as an enlisted man in the U.S. Army. How ironic! I despise war. I have a profound respect for life and the environment. I saw a military career as an excellent opportunity for me to provide for my family. I served in the war zone, but not as a combatant. I served in a combat support hospital in the Arabian Desert providing humane treatment for fellow soldiers and prisoners of war alike. Recently I was almost deployed again. Officials deemed it best that I stay home this time. I concur with their decision. My wife, Gina is severely disabled in advanced stages of multiple sclerosis. She needs me here.I'd like to share something with the list. One night my wife lay in her bed watching television. Observing the performers on screen she said, "I wish I could be a star." I responded, "You ARE a star!" Right now as you fight this disease with all of your determination, You are a star! As you raised our children and worked to supplement our income, You were a star! As you aided your parents, their lives dwindling in their twilight, you were a star. As you continue your life, doing the very best you can do, you will continue on as a star!So are YOU ALL STARS! Each of you in your own way! Here in this list we have people from many walks of life, from countries around the world. Whatever your strengths may be, in each or your distinct assemblage of personality traits and talents, as you do your bestYou are ALL STARS! I'm honored to be among your associates. Rand Kluge PS David: I like waffles. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
[meteorite-list] Puzzle, Moon Origin Debate
Hello All, It looks as though Dave Freeman's e-mail never made it to the list, although it was addressed to me and the list. That is the e-mail I answered. His request was simple and I replied with the answer. While that is not strange, what I do find strange is that people on both sides of the god subject took offense to my response. I do not believe I took a stance in anyone's corner during this "debate" so I would like to get other list members opinion. Did I offend you? And more importantly, Why? Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.comPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] eBay: Is this what a larger SANTA CATHARINA looks like?
Hello List, Jeff asked: I noticed this auction for a Santa Catharina individual. Anyone have anopinion on this one? Don't know the seller either.http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2182802717&category=3239&rd=1 It looks real, and it looks coated. About 1/2 of the Santa Catharina stuff was coated. Not sure if I would call anything from there an indivdiual though. They are basically weathered reddish things, do not look like an iron at all. But stable. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 1859 NY meteorite fall, nice read
Paper: Boston Evening Transcript City: Boston, Mass. Date: Monday Evening, August 15, 1859 Page: 1 TREMENDOUS EXPLOSION - A METEOR OR AN EARTHQUAKE. The Troy (N.Y.) Times of Thursdat last has the following account of a most remarkable explosion, which was heard for many miles. At about 7 o'clockm while the sky was pertectly cloudless, while hardly a breath of air was stirring, while not a single indication prevailed of a natural commotion of any sort whatever, there was a terrific, shocking, deafening report, accompanied apparently by two sharp echoes. It was if the sound had come from the sky; but there were no clouds, not a single indication of the prevalence of electricity, and they explanation could not be entertained. The force of the concussion was so great that houses were shaken; that persons walking in the street felt the ground vibrate underneath them: that men who had just commenced work upon buildings, instinctively dropped their tools, and looked about to see what was the matter; that little children were frightened, and asked many questions of their parents. John P. Hall, County Clerk, assures us that the noise heard was the result of an explosion of a meteor in the sky. Mr. Ball resides in Pittstown, in this county, and is a perfectly honorable and reliable gentleman. He informs us that he had just finished breakfast, and was standing in his door-yard when he observed a bright light the southernly direction from his house over the town of Grafton, and descending very rapidly to the ground in a northwesterly course. This was about 7:20 A.M. Mr. Hall last saw it when about a mile above the earth, when it disappeared, and in a moment or more he heard the explosion. It was very loud and resembled thunder. He had previously called his family to view the meteor, and they all observed the light and heard the explosion. Mrs. Hall insists that there were three seperate explosions - one much louder than the others - and in support of her statement, Mr. Hall says he saw three distinct clouds of smoke in the track of the meteor, which appeared to a mile or more apart. The smoke was visible for some time, but was finally lost to sight. The meteor appeared to be at a distance of about twenty miles from Mr. Hall's residence, and looked like a large size sky rocket. It has never been settled that a meteor does explode, we believe. If it does, we fail to see by what possibility it could produce three reports; such bodies are not generally charged on the revolver principle. But if a meteor could explode, and cause three reports, our readers can judge as well as we can what must have been the immensity of the volume and the forces of the explosion, to make those reports distinctly audible for a distance of fourty or fifty miles in any direction. We have a lively recollectionof the Oswego meteor hoax. It would have required a larger stone than that was represented to have been because this phenomenon. We confess we are puzzled. We incline to the opinion that this section of country has experienced a slight shock of earthquake. A gentleman from Venezuela, where such occurances are common says that this was his immediate conclusion. In every way, according to his opinion, the shock resembled that produced by an earthquake. The Albany Argus of August 13 says: We are inclined to think that is was a gentle earthquake. Although we cannot learn that is was in this city, w ehave been assured by two or three subscribers from the towns of Guilderland and New Scotland, who were in our counting-roon yesterday, that the same phenomenon was experienced in those vicinities soon after 7 o'clock Thursday mourning. The heavy rumbling sound and vibration of the earth continued, they say, for two or three minutes, proceeding from the southwest and dying away in the northeast. When they gave us this information they were ignorant that any such thing had been experienced anywhere else. The Pittsburgg (Mass.) Eagle says: A vilolent shock of some great explosion of gunpowder was heard in this town, Great Barrington, and Albany, at about 7 1/2 o'clock this morning. We have a report from a couple of Shakers - generally good authority - that at the time of this sound, a meteor, seeming to them a ball of fire, about the size of a lour barrel, passed across the country and exploded in the northwest, which was the quarter from which the sound seemed to come. Mark Note: This is a newspaper account of the Bethlehem meteorite. Noted as having fallen 730am, in Albany County, NY. Only one stone was recovered at the weight of only around 13 grams. Classified as an H chondrite. It appears that the stone was recovered shortly after it fell as the Troy newspaper account above notes "It would have required a larger stone than that was represented to have been because this phenomenon." Also after reading this paper I am more inclined to believe, Hall's account of the fall at around 7:20am, rather then the usual published account of 7:30am. ARN'
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 10-1869 Boise County, Idaho Bolide
Paper: Idaho Statesman City: Boise City, Idaho Date: Saturday, October 23, 1869 BOISE COUNTY. The World of Thursday gives an account of the supposed fall of an Aerolite, from which condense as follows: On Monday, the 11th instant, a singular phenomenon occurred between Placerville and the Payette. About 3 o'clock in the evening persons living in that section of the country were started by a tremendous explosion which shook the ground like an earthquake. The first impression on the minds of the people at and around Placerville was that the boiler of the quartz mill on Granite creek had exploded, but such not proving the case, speculation was rite as to the cause of such a terrible explosion and shock. especially as the sky was clear and the sun shining brightly. Mr. Miner, who was at the rance opposite Horse Shoe Bend, on the Payette says the explosion sounded to him as though it took place ont eh divide between the headwaters of Granite creek and Payette. Other parties agree apon the locality of its occurrence. Maj. R. G. Allen was coming down the mountain, on the Boise City road about three miles below Jidge Stringhathis (?), and he not only heard the explosion but felt the ground shake under him quite plainly and he was at least thirty miles from it. A gentleman at Thorn creek, about ten miles from here, on that evening, saw something like a ?? apparently a huge ball of fire int he direction of Placeville; it was some distance up in the air above the mountain, and suddenly exploded and disappeated. It was from there to four minutes from the time he saw it burst until he heard the sound. several parties in Idaho City also say that they felt the shock, but it was not very severe they paid little attention to it. Mark note: ? means I can not read the paper well because of folding or ageing on the paper. Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 08-1895 Meteor Explodes Over New York
Paper: Middletown Daily Argus City: Middletown, New York Date: Wednesday, August 14, 1895 Page: 8 THE BURSTING OF AN AEROLITE The Mystery of the Deafening Crash of Sunday Night Explained - Not a Thunder Feat - The Wonderful Sight seen by a Party Returning from Crystal Run - A Meteor Flies Into Pieces Before Their Eyes. The cause of the terrific report, early yesterday morning, which startled everybody in this city and surrounding country, and which was supposed to have been a single peal of thunder, has been discovered. It was the bursting of an aerolite in the heavens. Several persons have been found who saw the great meteor at the time of the explosion, and as they describe it, it must have been one of nature's grandest of pyrotechnical displays. A party of six young people, Mr. Mile Smith, of this city, Mr. Orin VanGordon, Linda, Hattie and Lizzie VanGordon and Sadie Youngs, of Dingman's, Pa., had been visiting friends at Crystal Run and were on the big bill near Michigan, on their way home, when the horses stopped suddenly and trembled with fear, and at the same time the whole heavens were lighted up and a great ball of fire with a train of light following it came up over the southern horizon and passed swiftly over the east, and when, apparently between Middleton and Mechanietown, the great mass exploded, breaking into four parts which went sailing in as many directions but soon ceases to give forth light. Mr. Smith says the report was the loudest he ever heard and seemed to fairly shake the earth. He estimated that the aerolite was in plain view at least two minutes before the explosion came and all had a good view of it. Miss Martha, daughter of Mr. Archie Gordon, of Franklin street, this city, also was the aerolite, and her description of it is the same as that given by Mr. Smith. She was sitting in the window of her room and was so thoroughly frightened by the unusual spectacle that she rushed back to her bad, and did not see the explosion of the meteor, and probably missed the grandest sight it will ever be her privilege to witness. Sergeant Wilson and Officer Sharpe of the police force were standing under the awning at Pronk's corner when the aerolite passed through the air, but did not see the great fiery ball itself, but noticed that the whole street around was lighted as they had never seen it before. Even the explosion which followed the flash of light did not convey any explanation to them of the great light they had seen.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1897 Meteorites Objects of Worship
Paper: Reno Evening Gazette City: Reno, Nevada Date: Sunday, July 18, 1897 OBJECTS OF WORSHIP It Is In That Way That Savages Usually Regard Meteorites Savages, whenever they come across meteorites of large size, are apt to regard them as objects of worship. Such however, was not the dignified fate of a very remarkable specimen that is now in the National museum, says the Washington Post. This strange aerolite is four feet in diameter, weighing 1,400 pounds approximately, and has the shape of a ring. It was found in the Santa Catarina mountains, and for a long time was used as an anvil by Mexicans at Tucson. In this employment it was discoverd by Dr. Erwin, of the United States army, who bought it for a small sum, and gave it to the Smithsonian institution. Doubtless the substance of this meteorite originally was largely stony, but the stony parts became disintegrated and disappeared after it fell, leaving the ring of iron. Of 400 meteors that have been seen actually to fall, only about a dozen were metallic, the rest being mainly of stony material, though containing more or less iron. On the other hand, nearly all of the meteorites picked up in a casual way are masses of materal. It is probably the case of that a great majority of such bodies are stony, but meteorites of that description do not attract notice lying on the ground, being mistaken for ordinary stones. All of these facts are extremely intercating in view of the belief now entertained by science that the compostion of meteorites throws light upon the makeup of the terrestrial globe. In fact, according to this theory, the make up of the earth is much like that of the average meteorite. Obviously, the moment this assumption is made, the study of the structure of meteorites come in have extraordinary importance; for man's knowledge of the planet on which he lives is restricted almost entirely to the surface of it. The bowels of the earth remain almost unknown.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Articlem 09-1917 Meteorites Origin A Puzzle
Paper: Mountain Democrat City: Placerville, California Date: Saturday, September 01, 1917 SHOTS FROM THE SKY Meteors That Bombard Us and the Puzzle of Their Origin Most persons have no comprehension of the actual bombardment to which the earth is continually subjected from the heavens. Millions of small meteors enter the atmosphere every twenty-four hours, and in addition to these it has been calculated that on the average not less than a hundred large meteorites strike the earth somewhere every year. The small meteors are totally consumed by the heat and friction, and only their slowly settling dust ever touches the earth's surface, although any one of them if not resisted by the air would hit with from twenty to a hundred times the velocity of the swiftest bullet. The big meteorites on the contrary, which frequently consist of solid iron, often get through the airy shield with enough of their original velocity left to bury themselves many feet in the hardest soil. They constitute a real peril. Although the chance of anybody being hit by a meteorite is almost infinitely small, yet the annuals of mankind show that a few persons have actually been killed by these strange shots from the sky. Whence do they come? The small meteors are apparently the debris of those hardly less mysterious bodies, comets, but nobody has yet suggested a satisfactory origin for the great meteorites. - Garrett P. Serviss in New York Journal.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 05-1890 A Bolide Over Iowa
Paper: Decatur Daily Republican City: Decatur, Illinois Date: Saturday, May 03, 1890 A Wonderful Meteor DES MOINES, Ia., May 2. - A special to the leader from Emmettsburg, Ia., says: At half-past five o'clock yesterday evening the northwestern heavens became suddenly illuminated, and immediately all eyes were cast in that direction. A large ball of blazing fire was seen traveling with lightning-like rapidity towards the earth, leaving in its a path a beautiful wreath of smoke which remained an object of curiosity of several minutes afterwards. Several minutes after the appearance of the meter, a loud report was heard which caused the earth to shake and tremble vigorously and startled the observers.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 06-1890 Farmington Meteorite Fall
Paper: Decatur Daily Republican City: Decatur, Illinois Date: Thursday, June 26, 1890 Page: 2 A Wonderful Meteor ATCHISON, Kan., June 26. - About one o'clock yesterday afternoon a meteor fell with a terrific explosion on a farm near Washington, Kan., scattering rock in every direction. One piece weighing nearly a ton embedded itself in the ground to a depth of several feet. The rock was of a grayish color and was intensely hot. The shock of the explosion was felt for miles around, many persons thinking it was an earthquake. Mark Note: This newspaper account is of the Farmington meteorite. This meteorite fell in Washington County, Kansas on June 25, 1890 at 1300 hrs. Classified as an L5 black chondrite, breccia. Two stones fell with a total weight of 89.4 kg. (Reference: Meteorites A to Z, 2001, Michael Jensen, William Jensen, Anne Black).Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 04-1875 Bolide Over Illinois
Paper: Daily Republican City: Decatur, Illinois Date: Monday, April 19, 1875 Page: 3 Meteoric Display. - On Saturday evening a meteor of unusual brilliancy shot athwart the earthern heavens, from south to north, about sixty degrees above the horizon. It started directly under the moon and shot along for some distance in the form of a ball when it burst, producing a noise like the burning of powder in the open air, and leaving a trail resembling that of a rocket. Its explosion was equal to a flash of lightning in brilliancy.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 09-1904 Bolide Over Wisconsin
Paper: Stevens Point Journal City: Stevens Point, Wisconsin Date: Saturday, September 10, 1904 Meteor Explodes on Farm During a heavy rain at night recently, a large meteor fell on the land of Gottlieb Zalger near Hokab and set fire to a haystack. Mr. Zalger was looking out of the window when he saw the meteor fall near the stack. It exploded, breaking into small fragments, each a molten piece of metallic substance at white heat. the windmill stack and an oak tree were scorched by flying bits of the meteor which were afterward picked up by the farmer.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 04-1913 Bolide At Sea
Paper: Fort Wayne Weekly Sentinel City: Fort Wayne, Indiana Date: Monday, April 14, 1913 METEOR EXPLODES AT SEA Gives Passengers on Steamship a Bad Fright Boston, April 14. A meteor which passed over the vessel and exploded only a short distance alarmed passengers on the Leyland liner Bohemia, which arrived here from Liverpool, after towing the disabled British steamer Cayo Romano to Hallfax. The meteor appeared on the steamer's port side in a heavy hailstorm and crossed her bow at great speed. It exploded with a deafening report and blinding glare when apparently about forty feet from the surface of the ocean. Passengers said that they had difficulty in hearing for about ten minutes afterward. The lookout in the crew's nest on the foremast was frightened, as it seamed to him that the meteor passed very near. When the explosion occurred the flash lighted all parts of the steamer.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] Apparent Meteorite Lands In Elma High
Tom wrote: Hello Marcie, you asked;Do they rapidly cool after initial impact ? Also, why, in the case ofthe "Columbia" retrieval, were people warned not to touch fragments, asthey were hazardous?I think the reason was two fold, the one they gave, Hazardous fuel from thetanks could of contaminated the pieces. Two, They wanted to scare the peoplein an effort to keep them from taking pieces home!About the fall, the witness's claim to see have seen the Hello Tom, Marcie, and List, I think I would be more to believe the second reason. Although one could understand why NASA would make such a statement, its hard for me to imagine that most of the fumes would not evaporate during its decent. Mark Bostick
[meteorite-list] New Elma Washington Meteorites On eBay
Hello, Just noticed thisbid at your own risk, looking funny to me...:-) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2184225892&category=3239 Mark BostickPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 01-1916 Meteor Sends Towns To Knees
Paper: Gettysburg Times City: Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Date: Monday, January 17, 1916 Page: 2 FIRE BOLT SENDS TOWN TO KNEES Meteor Explodes Before Bank and Church BEG MERCY FOR SOULS Many Fearing End of the World Fall Prostrate Before Pastor, Returning From Services Washington, Pa., Jan. 17. - Residents of West Alexander were roused from their beds by the explosion of a meteor, which struck the earth in the center of the town's business district. Terror-stricken, the Inhabitants ran out, fearing the world was coming to and end and not knowing what dire calamity had befallen. The heavenly visitor had fallen in front of the West Alexander National bank, and the next thought of the towns people was that an attempt had been made to rob the bank, which, with several other buildings, had been damaged by the explosion. Posses were immediately organized and a search began. Father Weber, of St. Joseph's cathedral, who is something of an astronomer, solved the mystery of the meteor and the posses dispersed. Rev. J. G. Deeds, pastor of the Methodist church, was returning from a country prayer meeting when the meteor fell, and was probably the only witness. People runing from their homes in wild scream found him standing near the scene of the explosion, and they began to fall on their knees in prayer, begging the clergyman to implore mercy for their souls. The more practical-minded, however, saw the damaged front of the bank, and immediately assigned a more earthly and highly criminal cause for the explosion, and the hunt for the bank robbers began. When it was found that other buildings, the Methodist church included, had been damaged, the terror began again with renewed vigor. It was not untill Father Weber made his investigation that calm took the place of storm in the little town. He explained that the head of a meteor rushing through the air had caused it to explode when it struck the earth. Many meteors have fallen in the Ohio vallery in the past, but none of them stirred up half the excitement which this one did. Some of the townspeople are still unconvinced that the falling of the meteor is not the omen of a terrible catastrophe to come during 1916. Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1916 Ship Nearly Hit by Meteorite
Paper: Coshocton Morning Tribune City: Coshocton, Ohio Date: Sunday, July 23, 1916 Page: 3 Ship Nearly Hit by Meteorite A narrow escape from being struck by a meteorite was experienced by the Leyland Rae(?) steamer Bostonian recently. Captain Perry saw the meteorite flashing brilliantly, falling to the southwest of the vesset. There was a hissing sound as it approached and with a loud report it fell into the ocean a few ship's length's from the Bostonian's bow. It caused so great a disturbance in the sea that water was dashed over the decks of the steamer.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Identification - Ninninger Plainview 92.387 photos
Hello Steve and List, Phil first asked: The museum I work at has a meteorite with a specimen number of 92.1157 painted on it, the card with it states it is a stony iron from Kansas. It looks like an chondrite to me. No photo available. Any ideas on the ID number? Steve Schoner kind responded: The number indicates a Nininger collection piece...Plainview, Texas.Nininger usually painted a white area on the specimen then wrote in inda ink the number.#92 is for Plainview, TX and .1157 is the 1,157th example that he sold or found from this site. That is pretty cool. The reason I say this is because I recently purchased a plainview meteorite. On it is a number that neither I or the seller could identify. 92.387 I figured it was a collector number, the 387th stone that some collector purchased in 1992. A pratice I've heard is common. This Plainview weighs 830 grams and is also oriented with almost a complete roll over rim on the back side. Thanks for letting me know it was a Ninninger number. I had no ideal. I have photos of this stone in my photo gallery at the following link... http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colplainview.html I'm debating going to Munich so I would be willing to entertain offers for the stone (think cheaper then a non-ninninger, non-oriented Plainview). Mark Bostick Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] Happy Canyon Meteorite Photo
Hello Everybody, Just added a slice of the Happy Canyon meteorite (EL7) to my photo gallery. The photo shows a nice polished side and reflects its true color wellsomething not too easy with this strange meteorite. I've been adding Gallery photos to my website every few days, but since I had never seen a really good Happy Canyon photo on the internet, I thought some of you might be interested in looking at it. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colhappycanyon.html Thanks, Mark BostickPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] Hupe Web site address
Hello Michael, The Hupes have http://lunarrock.com/ A nice educational site focused around NWA482. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 7:11 PM To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral Subject: [meteorite-list] Hupe Web site address Yo, The Hupes DO have a web site, don't they? I tried to look them upat Meteorite Exchange and they weren't listed Can ONE person send the URL to the list? (Otherwise, 35 peopleare going to send it to me off line) Thanks a bunch, Michael"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made." ...George W. Bush to Sam Donaldson, 8/17/93--Worth Seeing:- Earth at night from satellite:http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg- Interactive Lady Liberty:http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm- Earth - variety of choices:http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html--Panoramic view of Meteor Crater:http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/MeteorCraterRimL.html--Cool Calendar & Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html--Michael Blood Meteorites & Didgeridoos for sale at:http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Chat Room Open
Hello All, Feel free to visit the chatroom http://www.meteoritearticles.com/chatroom.html Mark BostickPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: New Blood: Not Just the Job of Dealers
Hello Stephen and list, Stephen wrote "Although I do agree that it is the duty of the hobby/science to promote the study and enjoyment of meteorites to the general public, this is a job that should not be the sole province of dealers. Collectors must be willing to promote too. Since the study and collecting of meteorites is related to astronomy (another "graying" hobby), I have taken the lead within the astronomy club that I belong to promote and educate the public, especially the children, about astronomy and about meteorites." I agree it is not just the job, nor is it just in the interest of dealers to expand the interest of meteorites. Good luck with your outreach efforts. Look for a small package in the mail from me. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
[meteorite-list] Chat Room is Open
Hello Everybody, Its been a busy month so I have been somewhat quiet, hope everything is well for everyone. I received several e-mails recently that my chat room was down. While I am still not sure what caused it to crash (perhaps the NY area blackout) it is back up now. For those that have only been in the chat room during off times or haven't had the chance to visit the room yet, it seems most people show up in the evenings (America time). I will be in there the rest of the night, feel free to visit. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/chatroom.html Thanks, Mark Bostick Wichita, KansasPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] The Denver SHOW!
Hello Anne and list, Anne wrote:I finally got it done!All the information regarding the Denver Show, the Auction and the Party has now been posted on my site, with maps to help you find your way around town.Just go to: http://www.impactika.com/News.html Thanks for the update Anne. Looking forward to a large margarita and a good meteorite list turnout. I will be in Denver from Friday to Sunday and will likely have a few goodies with me, please e-mail me for my cell phone number if you would like to meet up. Not that finding meteorite people in Denver is hard, as Anne noted the Holiday Inn or the Best Western across the street from it will usually have over half of the meteorite crowd in it. I can usually be found somewhere in this area. See you in two weeks. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
[meteorite-list] Meteorie Contest, Free Gold Basin Postcard
Hello Everyone, First if you are part of the Meteorite Central mailing list, and my mailing list you are getting this twice. Please delete one. I haven't done a meteorite contest in a while and need a name for my current project so I thought. Why not do both together. So..welcome to Meteorite Contest #7/8? (not sure which number). I just started a new comic series and have hired a long time Cracked Magazine comic artist to draw it for me. So I am writing the comic and a better artist is drawling it...:-) The comic will be a one-panel right now and will feature a meteorite hunter to start and maybe a meteorite collector later. I need a name for the comic and that is what this contest will be, name Mark's new meteorite comic series. The prize will be two hardbound meteorite books, Thunderstones and Shooting Stars by Robert Dodd and The Search for Our Beginning by Robert Hutchison.and just for gigglesa Jilin meteorite thin section that was made a little too thin. All US members who enter get mailed to them one of my latest meteorite postcards, a favorite of many meteorite list members, Gold Basin. (More postcard news coming in a month or two). Please send e-mails to me and off the list to save bandwidth, no limit to how many entries. E-mail any questions. Wishing everyone a clear view at Mars, Mark Bostick Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] Hello List!
Hello Christopher and List, Christopher wrote: Thanks for having me and I promise I won't ask too many new guy questions It's always nice to another view or opinion, glad to see you successfully "made it on". Hope you find the list to be helpful and feel free to ask a few new guy questions. We are usually a pretty behaved bunch....;-) Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1139???
Hello Tom and list, Just came in from the family reunion and see this post so I figure I would answer it. NWA1139 is mine, or was mine if the auction ended. It is uncut and has been only submitted for a number by me. I list about 250-300 auctions on eBay a week, sometimes more. Because of this I use a like description for every auction and change out what needs to be changed. I am sure this is how other people do it to. Since it is uncut I can not see the matrix and therefore did make an error. The high bidder asked me in my chat site about it and I told him it was uncut. If you are wanting to talk about the term "main mass", I think you can find that information in our archives. I am kind of on the fence on that subject. The numbering of meteorites has worked well for inventory purpose in other regions then Africa. The problem of Africa meteorites is more the large numbers that has been found. Why this is a problem is beyond me. You can see in the Meteoritical Archives here that the number was given to me for an individual. http://www.meteoriticalsociety.org/bulletin/prov-names.html However, I am kind of surprized you e-mailed the list and asked about it. You have e-mailed me 60-80 times or more about other things. Will talk more about others things tonight. If anyone has any question about this meteorite, feel free to e-mail. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com - Original Message - From: Tom aka James Knudson Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 7:14 PM To: meteorite-list Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1139??? This is confusing to me too;"NWA 1139 MAIN MASS""Meteorite has a nice dark matrix with lots of metal flakes. One stone witha total weight of only 61.6 grams and the complete uncut mass, otherwiseknown as the Main Mass or the Complete Mass."How do you know what the matrix is like if this is an uncut stone and one ofa kind?Thanks, TomPeregrineflier <><The proudest member of the IMCA 6168__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1139
Hello Mike and list, Mike wrote: The original post about NWA 1139 was mine. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers with my question, it was not my intention. No problem Mike. I did warn you at the start of the e-mail that I just spent the day with the family.:-) Is a number a name? Most I think do consider a number a name. However, a meteorite with a non-number name usually sells for more then one with a number name. Mike Also wrote: Will you be selling any more of those digital scales on ebay?Steve Arnold, proud owner of NWA 1139 main mass, says they're a good deal. I have the scales on sale at my website, www.meteoritearticles.com. Several list members have purchased one and all have been pleased. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: just fun (i guess)
Hello Sergey and list, That's funny. Thanks for the website link, perhaps I will use part of that painting for a logo I need to make. Mark Bostick - Original Message - From: Sergey Vasiliev Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: just fun (i guess) > Hello Mark and List!> Something just clicked at my mind after looking at Mark's page... ;-)> http://sv-meteorites.iol.cz/sv-meteorites/fun.asp> Have fun!> Sergey> www.sv-meteorites.com
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Contest, Denver, Chat Room
Hello Everybody, Sorry for the delay in this e-mail, it's been a busy week and month. I would like to thank everyone that submitted a name in the contest. The name I decided on was 'Rites & Wrongs. Ann Hernandex and Maria Nelson both submitted the name 'Rite and Wrong, which I changed a little. The prize in this contest was two meteorite books, since two people submitted the name, I will give each one of the books and a little bonus. So of you may remember I mentioned that if you entered the contest I will send you a free Gold Basin postcard. One of the latest postcards I have made. Please send me your name and address and I will send out the postcard, the winners should also send me their addresses. Looking forward to the Denver show. Several list members are going to Denver this year for the first time and I think it will be a good overall turnout. I will be staying at the Radisson, Greystone Castle. It's about 12 miles from the Holiday Inn. The hotel has a really nice breakfast bar and I have invited a few people to join me for breakfast Saturday. If you are interested let me know. The breakfast is a little on the high side. I will be in Denver friday-sunday, e-mail may be delayed around this time. Chat room. As many of you have noticed I have removed the chat room from the site. I will have a new chat room with more control up and running shortly after Denver. I have removed the link to the chat room from my home page but will be using the same page, so if you have book marked the page, please save it. I would like to thank the many list members that visited the site often and hope to fill this gap soon for those that enjoyed it. I have added another section of my website. Free meteorite e-mail postcards. You choose the photo, enter the e-mail address you would like to send it to, message and click send. None of the information is saved (addresses or msg), so neither party will receive spam from doing this. See you in one week in Denver, Mark Bostick Wichita, KansasPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] Denver
Hello Everybody, I will be in Denver from late Thursday or early Friday through Sunday. I will be carrying a few things with me, so if you see me feel free to come up and say hello. I can usually be found around Blaine Reed's room or around the Fossil section of the show. The Comets/Michael Blood auction is always a lot of fun and I look forward to seeing everyone there. I will have e-mail while I am gone but it might be hard for me to answer all e-mails in a timely fashion. Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas
Re: [meteorite-list] collector-contact?
Hello Gregory and list, Nice seeing you in Denver Gregory. Send me his e-mail address and I can confirm it or not, it might be down at the moment or overfilled as I believe he is on vacation. Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] collector-contact? I've been emailing a Wichita/Kansas collector named Jerry Calvert, but my emails the last several days have bounced. Anyone know how to to contact him? Thanx Gregory
[meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II
The best thing at the auction did not sell. Fred Hall provided a printing press used by Glenn Huss and Nininger on various publications. I think it would be nice if national meteorite displays showed more of the humanist aspect in meteorites and cant think of a better item to have showing. Fred Hall has always been a Nininger fan and with the press, but for display only was several things, including an old custom made briefcase once used by Nininger. Knowing Fred would be there with his Nininger items, I brought for him a brick from the ruins of Nininger's original museum and a postcard I made from a photo I told while there. Outside the auction a middle age man in leather jacket came up to me and quietly asked were the keg was. This man was Rob Elliott. The first Denver shows for Rob. Hope you enjoyed the show Rob and choose to come back next year. After the auction the keg was brought to Blaine Reed's room where it was finished off, something that is starting to become tradition with the auction keg. After the keg went dry and the cooler was made lighter, several of us ventured outdoors were cigars were shared. I'm not a big cigar fan, but several of the meteorite people smoke then and since it's kind of a Tucson/Denver tradition, I indulged. The Holiday Inn has a bar/restaurant and it was here my Lunar Rock Team badge was first tested. Four lines of people waited to get through the hotel lobby into the bar. By holding out our badges we were allowed to cut in front of everyone and not pay the cover charge to get in. Steve Drummond would find that by wearing his badge at the show, he saved $75.00 on a custom ring. After seeing the badge being taken by people as meaning something, I would wear the badge the rest the show. The bar was full of people and drinks were plentiful. Before I would finish one drink, one or two others would arrive in its place. One of these drinks was named the "oatmeal cookie". This drink did not agree with four of the people at the table, myself included. All should fear the oatmeal cookie. It's hard to go to the Denver or Tucson show and not pick through the piles of Sikhotes the Russians always seem to have. Usually I just pick a couple of the nicer pitted looking one, this time I decided to be different and picked through the oriented sikhotes. My time was soon rewarded with several small heat shields and a very cool double oriented meteorite. It has been said for a couple years that the Sikhote were getting harder to find. After asking about this, I was told that hunters were once finding several kilos a day is now finding "400 grams, if they are lucky." While I can not tell you if this is true or not, there were less people selling sikhotes at Tucson and Denver this year, then the year before. I avoided the Merchandise Mart on Friday because Friday is always kid day. The previous years found very few meteorites in this part of the show but the mineral displays and possible fossil bargains make it impossible to save away from. I started by first looking over the displays...get my drooling out of the way. These cabinets are always filled with would class specimens. Many organizations including the American National History Museum, colleges from around the United States and local mineral clubs, provided displays. They give ribbon awards but had yet to do so when I saw them. If I were the one giving the awards, the blue ribbon would go to a collection of later 1800 and early 1900 survey and mining equipment. These elaborate machines would often be made of hundreds of parts and look like something out of a mad scientist laboratory. No trip to the Merchandise Mart is complete without getting eaten by the Mr. Bones. Mr. Bones is a dinosaur skeleton costume wearing man that walks around and entertains the kids And adults. His big move is closing his jaws around his victim. Once again, I managed to live through it. One place I make sure to stop at the Merchandise Mart every year is Donald Hahn's booth. Donald sells books and excerpts in many science fields including meteorites. I tend to purchase a lot of meteorite books so I have known Hahn for several years now. A month before the show, he told me to stop by his booth, something I am very glad I did. To my delight, setting at Donald's booth was no other then Dr. Robert Bakker. Bakker is one of the world's most profile dinosaur paleontologists and is often a television guest. He sat in a chair drawling dinosaurs inside his books, while talking dinosaurs. His chair was next to the meteorite books so I soon found myself within conversation. I searched meteorite books while Dr. Bakker explained why Dinosaurs were warm-blooded to another customer and conversation changed to extinction. Bakker mentioned his dislike for the meteorite impact theory making the comment, "You don't find dinosaur bones at the K/T level." I could not help but mention the acid rain that would follow such an impact and therefore give away that I am pro-
[meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part I
Denver 2003 Report By Mark Bostick I usually choose to fly and then have one of my brothers meet me in Denver with a car to get around and get things home with. This year I chose just to drive in. Armed with the help of my brother, Johnny Bostick. I left Thursday evening choosing to stop along the way for the night close to the Colorado border. We made our way to a small motel in Colby, Kansas. Denver to Wichita is only a little over 500 miles, but our hotel reservations were not to Friday anyway. The bathroom had a sign telling guest not to clean kills in the bathtub. There was a location behind building 9 were kills could be cleaned. West Kansas is completely flat and a popular area for bird and deer hunters, I don’t imagine it took the motel long in business before drafting the sign. Colby was also the location of a meteorite find once, a small stone of only 2.4 kg. But it was enough to make me toss around the ideal of hunting in the morning. Instead we chose to get an early start Friday morning on Denver and getting to our hotel, the Radisson Greystone Castle. The Castle is located about 10 miles from the Holiday Inn - Best Western hotels were all the meteorite events are centered. It is also one of the better hotels in the area. But I think next year I will follow the lead of my fellow meteorite sellers and stay at the Holiday Inn. It will make getting back to the hotel after a night of possible drinking easier. Just use the elevator. Usually when I go to the mineral shows I don't make too many major purchases the first day. So other then a couple dozen mineral flats, I didn't buy much and non-meteorites don't really count. That made most of Friday a hello, hi, how are you doing, nice seeing you again day. My brother and me walked around the Holiday Inn and the Best Western rooms and tents looking for things to catch my eye while pricing minerals and fossils. Mostly, I just hung around Blaine Reed's room. Everyone can usually be seen at one time or another coming in or going out of Blaine's. He is the center point of the meteorite world at shows and to make it easy on us, always has the same room every year. Besides keeping us entertained and with a beer in hand if wanted, Blaine also does a good job at keeping his tables full of stuff to amuse us and tempt our pocketbooks. I walked away with a few meteorites and meteorite books including, Nininger first book, Our Stone Pelted Planet, and a platter size slice of Northbranch. This room was also temporary home of the Garza stone with all its glory. You really have to see the stone appreciate it. To me, it kind of looked like a giant Bensour, only kicked around a couple hundred times. Surrounding the stone were pieces of the house torn apart by the meteorite impact. The Garza stone was presented by Adam and Greg Hupe who also had a collection of riker mounted meteorites and Garza Impact Kits for sale. Adam and Greg gave out "Lunar Rock Team" badges to a number of people including myself. Complete with a Marvin the Martian photo and job titles. Mine noted me as a "Meteoritics Explorer", that I was a "VIP" and that the pass was for "All Access". Complete with a cord to put around my neck. Before the show was over, most of my fellow sellers were temporary members of the Lunar Rock Team and some of us would find out this was a good thing. AL Mitterling (of Mitterling Meteorites) is usually at the Denver show, and this year was no exception. Al and me had gone in together on a large end cut of SAH97095, a few months before the show. This is a nice H5 with shock veins and one of the first classified African desert meteorites. I picked up my slices at the show and they are just stunning. Several slices show on both sides a metal vein, up to 2 inches long and wide enough to be seen on of 5 slices. Thanks again Al for the nice work. I will have some photos of these metal veined slices soon. Until then, I have several very nice slices, some with lots of shock veins on my Website right now. (Sorry, had to squeeze a little Spam in here). Late Friday was the Comets/Michael Blood auction. Michael was the auctioneer and brought with him, his usual entertaining comments and auctioneer style. In the auction were a few things that caught my eye, including a handcrafted necklace. Sterling silver with a large wrapped moldavite as a pendent, and moon stone beads. This necklace was one of several that were entered by a cute young blond in her twenties. While only two of the necklaces sold in the auction, she did sell all but one while people were waiting to check out. These necklace sells had her obviously excited and made me smile a little. For my purchase I also got a hug. Lets hope she returns to our fold, our hobby could use more of a female presence...:-) Like the previous years the Comets provided a keg of local beer, along with wine, chips, and other snacks. Anne Black was kind enough to hang ar
Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II
Hello list and Rob, Nice to see you in Denver Rob. I admit, middle age is a little strong. List members must remember I am still in my twenties...:-) Hope you didn't find flying international with meteorites any trouble. From experience the airport seems to act weird the third or fourth time you set off alarms. (Good change of subject Mark). Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II In a message dated 18/09/03 01:49:23 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a middle age man This man was Rob Elliott.Middle-aged???Mark, please remind me to buy you several large "oatmeal cookies" next Denver show ;-)Rob Elliottwww.meteorites.uk.comFernlea Meteorites,The Wynd,Off Dickson Lane,Milton of Balgonie,Fife. KY7 6PYUnited KingdomTel: +44-(0)1592-751563Fax: +44-(0)1592-751991Mobile: 07909-773929Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[meteorite-list] Denver 2003 - Part 1
Hello Everyone, Sorry no photos this year. Was having camera problems. Denver 2003 Report By Mark Bostick I usually choose to fly and then have one of my brothers meet me in Denver with a car to get around and get things home with. This year I chose just to drive in. Armed with the help of my brother, Johnny Bostick. I left Thursday evening choosing to stop along the way for the night close to the Colorado border. We made our way to a small motel in Colby, Kansas. Denver to Wichita is only a little over 500 miles, but our hotel reservations were not to Friday anyway. The bathroom had a sign telling guest not to clean kills in the bathtub. There was a location behind building 9 were kills could be cleaned. West Kansas is completely flat and a popular area for bird and deer hunters, I don’t imagine it took the motel long in business before drafting the sign. Colby was also the location of a meteorite find once, a small stone of only 2.4 kg. But it was enough to make me toss around the ideal of hunting in the morning. Instead we chose to get an early start Friday morning on Denver and getting to our hotel, the Radisson Greystone Castle. The Castle is located about 10 miles from the Holiday Inn - Best Western hotels were all the meteorite events are centered. It is also one of the better hotels in the area. But I think next year I will follow the lead of my fellow meteorite sellers and stay at the Holiday Inn. It will make getting back to the hotel after a night of possible drinking easier. Just use the elevator. Usually when I go to the mineral shows I don't make too many major purchases the first day. So other then a couple dozen mineral flats, I didn't buy much and non-meteorites don't really count. That made most of Friday a hello, hi, how are you doing, nice seeing you again day. My brother and me walked around the Holiday Inn and the Best Western rooms and tents looking for things to catch my eye while pricing minerals and fossils. Mostly, I just hung around Blaine Reed's room. Everyone can usually be seen at one time or another coming in or going out of Blaine's. He is the center point of the meteorite world at shows and to make it easy on us, always has the same room every year. Besides keeping us entertained and with a beer in hand if wanted, Blaine also does a good job at keeping his tables full of stuff to amuse us and tempt our pocketbooks. I walked away with a few meteorites and meteorite books including, Nininger first book, Our Stone Pelted Planet, and a platter size slice of Northbranch. This room was also temporary home of the Garza stone with all its glory. You really have to see the stone appreciate it. To me, it kind of looked like a giant Bensour, only kicked around a couple hundred times. Surrounding the stone were pieces of the house torn apart by the meteorite impact. The Garza stone was presented by Adam and Greg Hupe who also had a collection of riker mounted meteorites and Garza Impact Kits for sale. Adam and Greg gave out "Lunar Rock Team" badges to a number of people including myself. Complete with a Marvin the Martian photo and job titles. Mine noted me as a "Meteoritics Explorer", that I was a "VIP" and that the pass was for "All Access". Complete with a cord to put around my neck. Before the show was over, most of my fellow sellers were temporary members of the Lunar Rock Team and some of us would find out this was a good thing. AL Mitterling (of Mitterling Meteorites) is usually at the Denver show, and this year was no exception. Al and me had gone in together on a large end cut of SAH97095, a few months before the show. This is a nice H5 with shock veins and one of the first classified African desert meteorites. I picked up my slices at the show and they are just stunning. Several slices show on both sides a metal vein, up to 2 inches long and wide enough to be seen on of 5 slices. Thanks again Al for the nice work. I will have some photos of these metal veined slices soon. Until then, I have several very nice slices, some with lots of shock veins on my Website right now. (Sorry, had to squeeze a little Spam in here). Late Friday was the Comets/Michael Blood auction. Michael was the auctioneer and brought with him, his usual entertaining comments and auctioneer style. In the auction were a few things that caught my eye, including a handcrafted necklace. Sterling silver with a large wrapped moldavite as a pendent, and moon stone beads. This necklace was one of several that were entered by a cute young blond in her twenties. While only two of the necklaces sold in the auction, she did sell all but one while people were waiting to check out. These necklace sells had her obviously excited and made me smile a little. For my purchase I also got a hug. Lets hope she returns to our fold, our hobby could use more of a female presence...:-) Like the previous years the Comets provided a keg of local beer, along
[meteorite-list] Denver, thx
Hello All, Thanks to everyone to the kind comments on my somewhat quickly wrote report. I understand that not everyone can make the big shows so I usually try to make slightly long reports, I remember how I enjoyed reading them. I hope my rush with the report excuses anything I left out...which is quite a bit. Those that did not make it to Denver, should try to make Tucson. Tucson is Denver x 10. Thanks also to Rob for being a good guy and not sending me a computer virus for calling him "middle-aged". Truth be told Rob is on the lower end of the age bracket of the active people in our collecting world. If you have never met Rob, that gives you another reason to attend Tucson. Rob is one of the most professional dealers in our small market and has one of the finest private owned meteorite collections I know of. I would also like to thank those that examined the first "Rites & Wrongs" comics I had completed and made kind comments or offers to purchase. Last, I would like to thank Fred Hall again for display the Nininger items and showing the printing press. Perhaps some list member took photos and can share them? I bought a new memory card, and it didn't like my camera. Anway, thanks to all (including the Hupes) for making Denver a fun time for me and my brother. Next round of Death Cookies is on me. Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] Fw: Hello, Its Rafael
Hello Rafael, I am sending your e-mail along to the list. Art could be on vacation or busy right now. Others might be able to tell you more. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com - Original Message - From: Rafael B. Torres Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hello, Its Rafael Hello Mark, its Rafael from the list...Im writing you cuz I dont now what happened to my account, I didnt check my mail during vacations and meteorite-list closed my account and I cannot get it back, I susbscribed again, but I get no response from the server. Could you ask in the list what can I do to get it back pls?Thanks a lot Mark_MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 05-1948 Sikhote Meteorites Fall Investigated
Title: Nashua Telegraph City: Nashua, New Hampshire Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1948 Page: 4 Moscow is waiting word from the scientific expedition sent to find the latest enormous meteorite, or "shooting star," which fell in Kamchatka, the bleak peninsula in the east of Siberia. This is the third great meteorite to fall in Siberia in this century. Last year, one of the biggest ever known fell in a remote mountainous wilderness north of Vladivostok. Peasants saw a huge fireball hurtling through the air on a sunny morning, its red tail leaving a broad smoke trail. Before it reached the ground the cosmic missile exploded with a roar heard 50 miles away.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 08-1948 Scientists Get Evidence of Sikhote Meteorite
Title: Portland Press Herald City: Portland, Maine Date: Monday, August 09, 1948 Page: 20 Soviet Scientists Get Evidence of Meteorite London, Aug. 8. (AP) - An expedition of the Soviet Academy of Sciences is back in Moscow with a collection of eyewitness stories of a giant meteorite that fell in Siberia. A Soviet News Agency (Tass) report distrubuted by the Soviet monitor said the expedition interviewed nearly 300 persons in 50 villages who saw the "shooting star" before it landed Feb. 12, 1947, on a ridge north of Vladivostok. "They all unanimously declared that the trail of the meteorite, the flight of which was visible for four or five seconds, was brighter than the sunlight in clear weather in a cloudless sky on that day,' said the report. The body was said to have traveled 12 miles a second with a roar heard 125 miles away. Its weigh was estimated at 1,000 tons. The 30-square mile area where the meteorite fell has been proclaimed a national reserve.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 05-1939 Goose Lake Meteorite Found
Paper: Reno Gazette City: Reno, Nevada Date: Thursday, May 04, 1939 Page: 16 METEOR IS FOUND IN MODOC LAVA COUNTRY OAKLAND, Calif., May 4 (AP) - Three scientists fought their way along a seven-mile mountainside trail of boulders and fallen trees in far-northern California today to bring out what they called "the finest specimen of meteorite ever found on the Pacific coast." It weighed 1 1/2 tons. Prof. Earle G. Linsley, director of Chabot observatory here, sent word from the isolated area in the Modoc national forest, five miles south of the Oregon line, that the meteor would arrive here by truck Saturday. The tall, sandy-haired scientists, in terming the meteorite the "finest specimen" found on the coast, estimated it fell one thousand years ago. The ground beneath it was not dented, and Prof. Linsley theorized the meteorite fell when glaciers covered the area, and settled gently as the ice melted. He said it would be known as the "Goose Lake" meteorite because it was discovered in the Goose Lake area forty milrs from Alturas, Calif. -- One of the largest meteorites ever found in the United States has been discoverd in the barren lava county of Modoc National forest in northern California, officials of the United States forest service reported today. Weighing between one and three tons, the solid metal body takes a place among the nation's seven largest known meteors. The wedge shaped mass is reported to vary from one to three feet in width and is four feet long. C. A. Schmidt of Oakland made the find last October while deer hunting on the Modoc forest with two companions. He confided his discovery to forest service officers and since than a number of scientists and representatives of the scientific institutes have become interested in the fallen body. The Smithsonian Institute of Washington, D. C. has taken a particular interest in the discovery since all meteorites found on government land become the property of the institute. It was believed that considerable difficulty will be met in hauling the heavy object to civilization. Schmidt, accompanied by Professor Earle G. Lindsley of Mills College and Chabot Observatory, Oakland, and Dr. H. H. Nininger, scientist and outstanding meteor authority from Denver, Colo. packed in to the wilderness lava beds this week to study the meteorite. The party is being assisted by forest service rangers. Preliminary analysis shows that the meteorite is composed largely of iron. The extent of surface oxidation is said to be quite limited, indicating that the body had fallen in geologically recent years.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] Gruver slice with another meteorite in it?
Hello List, Here is a slice of the Gruver (Tx.) Meteorite that I purchased in Denver. Slice has a nice large inclusion that is about 15mm wide. The inclusion appears to me to be a different meteorite. (Looks a lot like the NWA LL4 that several people have). http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colgruver.html Does this the inclusion look like a different meteorite to anyone else? Mark Bostick Wichita, KansasPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 03-1948 Stockwell, Brenham and Norton
Title: Newark Advocate City: Newark, Ohio Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1948 Page: 12 Wheelbarrow Detector Aids Kansas Hobbyist's Search For Buried Meteorites Hutchinson, Kas., March 10. - (AP) - H. O. Stockwell's wheelbarrow tells him where buried meteorites are located. Stockwell is an amateur prospector who has found his native Kansas a fertile field for hurtling star fragments. A partner in the Hutchinson electrical supply house, he began his meteor search as a hobby, and now is receiving professional recognition for his work. Since last September, when he began prospecting as a serious sideline, Stockwell has unearthed four meteorites in Kansas, the largest weighing 740 pounds. His equipment includes a mineral detecting instrument, similar in principle to the army's mine detectors, which is mounted on a plywood wheelbarrow. The instrument is wired to react electrically to metal in the ground. Trudging behind the 'barrow, Stockwell paces across Kansas farms with the care of a groundskeeper searching for weeds. When the wheelbarrow crosses buried metal - be it an abandoned plow disc or a meteorite - the instrument gauge pumps violently. Then he begins digging. His favorite hunting ground has been in Brenham township, Kiowa County, Kansas. There he discovered his 740-pound prize, only eight pounds lighter then the largest meteorite ever found in Kansas. He used a tractor with hydraulic lift to set the big chunk of metal on a truck for shipment to Hutchinson, where he now has it on display at his place of business. Stockwell's other finds in the Brenham field weighing 357, 230 and 126 pounds. All were about two feet below the ground surface. His most recent exploration was in northwestern Kansas, following the explosion of an unexplained "ball of fire" Feb. 18. The object, which exploded thousands of feet in the air, was seen in six states - Kansas, Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Nebraska and Colorado. Believing it was a disintegrating meteor, Stockwell packed his wheelbarrow for a search in the vicinity of Norton, Kas., where witnesses reported the explosion rattled windows over a wide area. He returned empty-handed, as did Dr. H. H. Nininger, director of the American Meteorite museum, Winslow, Ariz., who also visited the area. He hasn't given up on the Norton explosion. Right now he's working on improved detection equipment for new explorations this summer. "Farmers, stockmen and hunters, who are daily in the fields have the best chance of finding a meteorite/" he says. "After it has been found and reported to scientists, they can go intot he field with electrical machines and determine if others fell in the same locality."Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 12-1950 Meteorite Crater Found in Canada
Title: Reno Gazette City: Reno, Nevada Date: Monday, December 18, 1950 Page: 4 Meteorite Crater? Stories of Skies By Hugh Pruett Astronomre, Extension Division, Oregon Higher Education System Huge depressions surrounded by high rims of broken rock and situated on toehrwise level plains have been found in several places on the earth. In recent times it seems certain that these have been blasted out by the descent of stony or metallic missles from the great interplanetary spaces. The best known of about a dozen such holes is the famous Barringer Meteorite crater in Arizona, an almost circular depression approxiately 4000 feet across. The top of the rim varies from 120 to 160 feet above the surrounding plain and the inside floor is about 600 feet below the rim. Terrific upheaval of the original strata occurred at the time of impact for huge boulders, some as large as an ordinary house, make up a considerable part of the rim. In the rim and scattered for miles on the plain, tons of metallic meteorites have been found. Now we learn of another crater, recently discovered in the northwestern part of Quebec south of Baffin Island, which dwarfs considerably the Arizona depression. It is about 2 1/2 miles across from rim to rim, and the top of the rim stands 550 feet above the plain. Unlike the Arizona crater, this latest depression contains a lake, the surface of which is somewhat higher thant he surfaces of the numerous small lakes found int eh surrounding plain. Last July when it was first examined by a scientific expedition, the water surface in places was by ice three feet thick. It is said that this crater, which is located in an unfrequented part of the world, was first noted on aerial photographs by a prospector, Fred W. Chubb. This was reported to the Globe-Telegram of Toronto. This paper was instrumental in organizing a scientific expedition, which included Dr. V. Ben Meen of the Royal Ontario museum. Although no meteorites have been found among the boulders of rim or on the surrounding plain during the short preliminary investigation, Dr. Meen feels quite certain the formation is due to the action of a huge meteorite and is not volcanic in nature. He believes the tearing fromt he plain of liely ten billion of tons of granite which forms the rim, took place sometime between 1000 and 3000 B.C. Further study is planned next summer when magnetic methods will be used to try to locate meteoritical material and to determine of a large mass is likely beneath the lake. The scientists are sure no glacial action has taken place since the crater was formed. The explorers hoped they were the first campers ever in that locality, but the finding of a tin can blasted their hopes. One member in anger threw it away. Later when they wanted to see if it contain a message, they could not find it. Excellent pictures of the crater and the exploring party are carried in the October number of Griffith Observer published in Los Angeles. Time for Aug. 14 and other publications discussed the subject.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 8-1948 Norton Meteorite, La Paz and Nininger
Title: Council Bluffs Nonpareil City: Council Bluffs, Iowa Date: Sunday, August 22, 1948 Page: 20 University Buys Meteor Fragment NORTON, Kan., AP - The universites of New Mexico and Nebraska have purchased the world's largest fragment of an anchondritic meteorite. The purchase price was not disclosed. Dr. Lincoln La Paz of the faculty of New Mexico university announced Saturday the two universities obtained the specimen in spirited bidding Friday. Dr. H. H. Nininger, director of the American meteorite museum, Winslow, Ariz., was the opposing bidder. This was the largest of mroe than 1,000 meteorite fragmentsrecovered from a fall last May 18. Dr. La Paz said excavation of the 1,000 pound fragment, at the bottom of an eight-foot crater would be completed late Saturday. It will be sent to the University of New Mexico, he said, where it will sliced with a diamond bit, with half going to each university.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 10-1897 Cape York Meteorite, Meteorites in General
Title: Weekly Gazette Stockman City: Reno, Nevada Date: Thursday, October 14, 1897 Page: 4 LIENT. PEARY is bringing back from the northwest coast of Greenland a meteorite that for size reduces all other objects of the kind to insignificance. The Cape York meteorite, as it is called, is 12 feet long and 8 feet wide, and weighs about 100 tons, or about thirty three times more than the largest in the United States. Meteorites are of three classes, those composed wholly of iron, these in which iron and earthy matters are mixed and those entirely of stone, the last being by far the most common. In the Cape York meteorite iron is the chief ingredient, with some nickel and traces of copper and tin. Its texture resembles the tough nickelferous iron used for armor in warships, and is believed to be throughout a perfect specimen of crystalline structure. There are legends of larger meteorites but they have never been found. The depression in Canyon Diablo, Arizona, nearly a mile in diameter and 100 feet deep, is attributed to an enormous meteor, but the largest fragment picked up in the vicinity weighs but half a ton. When the great Greenland specimen reaches its future resting place in the American Museum of Natural History, New York, it will be a steady attraction for visitors. It is asserted that 10,000,000 meteors reach the atmosphere of the earth every day, coming from inter stellar space, where the temperature is 400 degrees below zero. On striking the outer air of the planet the friction causes a heat of 3,000,000 degrees, and the missile, flying 2500 miles a minute, is instantly converted into gas. But occasionly the mass of the meteor is so great that some of it reaches the earth, becoming visible at a distance of 100 miles. No substance unknown on earth has been found in meteorites. Iron is their predominant metal. They have shown imbedded diamonds, but no gold. The fragments are occasionally scattered over an area of miles, a fact proved by their fitting into each other. Greenland's meteorites were first heard of through the natives, who tipped their weapons with the tough iron sent down from the skies. A swarm of meteorites is supposed to travel around the sun as small bodies, and their journey is uninterrupted until they get too near a larger body, which usually results in their passing into the gaseous state. Many astronomers hold that meteors are fragments of comets, and that a comet is but a large meteor, with a tail of reflected light. One of the most remarkable meteors of modern times burst over the city of Madrid, February 10, 1896. The glare was blinding, though the sun was high, and the noise was deafening. Several buildings fell, and the city was violently shaken. The phenomenon was visible throughout more than half of Spain, and meteoric fragments were picked up in several places. Eminent geologist contend that the structure of the earth is similiar in materials to that of meteorites, and that the central mass is iron and heavy metals, in a molten condition at present.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 06-1977 Old Women Meteorite Disputed
Title: Color Country Spectrum City: Saint George, Utah Date: Sunday, June 19, 1977 Page: 2 Meteorite sent to Smithsonian RIVERSIDE, Calif. (UPI) - A three-ton meteorite, second largest ever found in the United States, plunked onto the desert from outer space "hundreds of years ago" and it may take another couple of years to determine who it belongs to. The three miners who discovered it while searching for a gold mine says finders keepers - to them its worth "a million dollars." But the Smithsonian Institution also wants it, as does a scientist at UCLA. Marines, using a heavy duty helicopter from Santa Ana MCAS, dragged the huge nickel-iron object out of a rocky canyon in the Old Woman Mountains 170 miles each of Los Angeles Friday. The meteorite, four feet high, three feet wide and 2 1/2 feet thick, was placed on a flatbed truck and taken to the Bureau of Land Management offices in Riverside, where it will be displayed for two weeks. Then it goes to the Smithsonian in Washington, D.C., where scientists plan to slice it open for study. "A meteorite is like a book." said curtor Dr. Roy S. Clarke. "it has to be opened before it can be understood." David Friburg, Mike Jendruczak and Hack Harwood, all of Twentynine Palms, found the meteorite in March, 1976, while looking for a legendary Spanish Conquistador gold mine. Jendruczak said he was drawn to the reddish-brown and black rock because it looked out of place among the tan and gray boulders littering the rugged shopes. "I tapped it," he said, "and right away I knew what it was. I'd seen pictures of meteorites in school and I've seen them in museums. So I was pretty sure it was a meteorite." Friburg said the three contemplated hiring a comercial helicopter to lift it out themselves, making a documentary film of the process which they would sell. They sent chips to John T. Wasson, a UCLA chemist and meteorite expert. Wasson said the sample showed a rare type of meteorite. "Type IIB" If subsequent tests prove this it would be the 15th such type found in the world. Eventually, Clarke came out to examine the meteorite and claim it for the Smithsonian under the 1906 Antiquities Act. He said he discussed a finder's fee for the miners, which they refused. The miners are claiming the rock is theirs under the 1872 Mining Act. They say they could get a last 31 million by selling chips to scientists. (Article includes photo of people standing around Old Women Meteorite).Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] NP Article, 06-1977 Old Women Meteorite Disputed
Steve Schoner wrote: And the Legal outcome of this case was terrible...I think that it was too bad that their Lawyers did notlook carfully enough into the 1872 Mining Act permitthat the Barringers applied for with regards to allmeteorites found in "Meteor Crater"Under that very same 1872 Mining Act, they got notonly the meteorites, but the entire crater, too.Steve Schoner. P. S. Post more on this Mark. Hello Steve and list, I think many of us agree with you the Old Women and Meteor Crater. Here are two more Old Women articles I havent posted yet and two more can be found on my website: http://www.meteoritearticles.com/znpoldwoman.html Title: Nevada State Journal City: Reno, Nevada Date: Saturday, June 18, 1977 Meteorite Plucked OLD WOMAN'S MOUNTAIN, Calif. (AP) - A Marine helicopter dropped into a crevice of this rocky desert mountain Friday and plucked out a three-ton meteorite, the second largest ever found in the United States. Title: Reno Evening Gazette City: Reno, Nevada Date: Saturday, July 02, 1977 Page: 3 Meteorite might remain LOS ANGELES (AP) - A 3 1/2 ton meteorite found by three miners in the Old Women Mountains may stay in Southern California at least until June 21 so that more people can see and touch it. In a ruling Friday, the Bureau of Land Manageent said the meteorite should be kept on the state at least temporarity so it can be displayed in museums in Los Angeles, San Bernardino and Riverside counties. "It's a victory in the first skirmish," said UCLA professor John Wasson, a meteorite specialist who has been battling to keep the rock in California. PS: Are you still wanting to go hunting Steve? I might be in your neighborhood shortly..
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 11-1965 Meteorite Craters
Paper: Nevada State Journal City: Reno, Nevada Date: Sunday, November 07, 1965 Page: 34 By Prof. Wendell A. Mordy Director Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada, Reno Last summer, the Mariner 4 photographs showed the surface of Mars is covered with craters, like those on the moon. The craters apparently are caused by giant meteorites colliding with the planet. Some scientist think this is an indication that meteorites bombard all bodies in the solar system, including the earth. Dr. Frank Dachille, associate professor of Geochemistry at the Pennsylvania State University, thinks that there are many such craters on earth. The outlines of most of them has been softened by erosion, or covered by vegetation or water, according to Dachille. He is co-author of a highly controversial book on the evolution of Earth, called "Target Earth." In that book he lists more than 70 huge depressions on earth which he thinks problably were caused by meteorite impacts. The list includes the entire Michigan Basin, the Wells Creek Basin in Tennessee, and many others, in addition to depressions such as Meteor Crater in Arizona, Deep Bay in Canada, and the tiny Odessa Crater in Texas, which are more obvious and which scientists pretty generally agree were formed by meteorite bombardments. 'Falling Stars' Small meteorites frequently hit the earth, and are recognized as "falling stars." Occasionally small fragments are found. It takes only about 1,000 years for rain, snow, food, fire, earthquakes, plants, animals and other influences to destroy the traces of the impact of sizeable meteors, according to Dachille. Dachille estimates that the million meteors which have hit the earth during the last 5 billion years, the traces of probably not more than 250 remain sufficiently preserved to be recognized, even by aeriel photographs, or eventually satellite photographs. However, there are other ways to discover the location of hits by meteorites, according to Dachille. Dachille and his colleagues have found minerals from suspected crater sites outwordly appearing as if they were hardly damaged, but with their crystal structure so highly deformed that they were actually powder, rather then crystals as determined by X-ray. Dachille is experimenting to create laboratory conditions approaching those which must occur when a large body crashes into the earth. He says, "Minerals showing severe crystal damage coming from suspected craters, in contrast with those from surrounding rocks, support the hyprothesis that the craters were formed by meteorites." A meteorite which can dig a crater 300 miles in diameter would have to be about 30 or 40 miles in diameter, he estimates. Bodies this size could be quite common in the solar system, and would represent 10 billion times the amount of energy released by the first atomic bombs. Disappears When such a large meteorite hits the Earth, it is vaporized and completely disappears, he says, just as fragments of superbombs don't survive. Since there is no water or growth on the moon to gradually remove the scars of meteorite impacts, about 60,000 circular scars, some of which are hundreds of miles across, still can be seen on the moon. Dachille says there is no reason to think that the earth could have avoided the kind of bombardment which has occurred on the Moon and Mars. Three large bodies, with energies as large as the Hudson Bay Meteorite have passed within a few miles of Earth since the turn of the century, Dachille points out. There is no reason to think that some of this size wouldn't have struck the earth during its lifetime. He estimates that giant meteorites, like the ones which have formed the Gulf of St. Lawrence or part of Hudson's Bay, only happen once in 10 million years or so. He thinks that lunar explorations will teach us a lot about dating the formation of craters, and the mechanism which created them. In the meantime, he says, "It should be useful as well as instructive at least to consider the possible effects of large collisions - throughout the solar system."Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 12-1967 8-year Old Bruised by Meteorite
Paper: Post Crescent City: Appleton, Wisconsin Date: Thursday, December 07, 1967 Page: C12 8-year Old Proud of Bruise From Meteorite ROCK HILL, S.C. (AP) - Eight-year-old Casey Little was recovering today from a bump on the head by a meteorite. Somewhat proud of the indcident, Casey explains to friends that it "wasn't falling, I was." He tripped and the meteorite fragment fell of his teacher's desk, cutting his head slightly. Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 08-1961 Meteor Could Touch Off WWIII
Title: Sheboygan Press City: Sheboygan, Wisconsin Date: Wednesday, August 02, 1961 Page: 9 Meteor Could Touch Off War III SAN FRANCISCO (UPI) - World War III could conceivably be touched off by a meteor, mistaken by a panicky nation for a missle, says Space Expert Murray Korahauser. Kornhauser, manager of Gernald Electric's missile and space projects, said precautions against such a disaster should be taken now. Speaking before the opening of the western regional meeting of the American Astronautical Society, Kornhauser said public education about meteoric events and a simple radioactivity test would "effectively dispel this threat to mankind." He said that any meteorite weighing 200 pounds or more would appear "strikingly similar" to a missile. He added that about once every seven years a sizable meteorite falls which "could cause dangerous reactions." He said meteors and missiles are bright, smoky, noisy, have blast waves, and cause seismic waves, fireballs, fall of debris and craters. One sure way to tell the difference, Kornhauser said, is to make a radioactive test. He urged such a test be made before "retaliatory" missiles are launched. "If a large meteorite fell in a populated area," Kornhauser said, "in the ensuing panic there is a high probability of an immediate retaliation that would launch World War III."Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] Not nice....
Hello Dave and list, Dave wrote "Presumably I am not the only one who is finding that the Matteo/Mike disputeprofoundly unpleasant?" No Dave I think a number of us are finding this unpleasant. In case any new members are on here, we do talk meteorites from time to time, please stick around. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 03-1949 Sikhote Meteorite Article
(Sorry if your part of my e-mail list and get this twice, didn't mean to send it there) Paper: Lethbridge Herald City: Lethbridge, Alberta Date: Thursday, March 10, 1949 Page: 16 SIBERIAN METEORITE (From the Manchester Guardian.) The arrival on earth of a giant meteorite is a rare occurrence. When it happens we may be reasonably content if it is at the other end of the world rather than in own neighborhood. There seems no reason in the nature of things why the thousand-tonner which struck a remote spot in Eastern Siberia on February 12, 1947, should now have landed in Lancashire. We should not then have had to wait to find its arrival recorded in "Nature" nearly two years later, but, on balance, we need not grumble at that. we are more inclined, if it is not too late, to congratulate the distant inhabitants of the Amoor River valley that the strange monster found its target in the neighboring mountain range and apparently caused little human loss. It came in daylight and almost outshone the sun for a few seconds for which it was seen from every town and village within 125 miles. The noise of the explosions which accompanied it and of the final crash were carried nearly as far and meteoric fragments were scattered over a radius of seven or eight miles. there seems to have been no central crater of the Arizona type, the whole meteorite breaking up into thousands of fragments, but more than a hundred funnels were found in the rocks, some of them six yards deep and three times as wide, and there was considerable destruction of trees. Though rather fanicfully described by one of the Russian scientists as a "minor planet," this was certainly an outsize in land-falling meteorites, and geo-physicists the world over will take all the interest in it that they are allowed. A large part of the affected region has been closed and placed at disposal of he Academy of Sciences if the U.S.S.R., which has already sent two expeditions to the site. But so long as the present theory of Russian science for the Russians prevails, international scientists are likely to find Eastern Siberia even more remote than it has usually been.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
