Re: NPTD multiple timezone on same server (fix)

[Daniel Ouellet]

Henning Brauer wrote:

* Daniel Ouellet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-02 20:57]:

How to: I wish to use the same server running ntpd from Henning as the 
server, but I haven't find a way to have two daemon running on different 
IP's that would be off by one hour each.


So, is it possible first to do that?



no.

well, you might just run version hacked up to alwas add an hour after 
doing the gettimeofday(), but that is really hacky.


I don't intend to add a knob for that, this is really Yet Another 
Cisco Fuckup.




Thanks!

I hacked it and my process is now called

"Cisco brain dead ntp engine"

Except that I did the changes in the server_dispatch instead.

The gettimeofday() actually would also affect the local time of the 
server. This way I changed only the message send in reply to clients and 
only affect that.


reply.rectime = d_to_lfp(3600 + rectime);
reply.reftime = d_to_lfp(3600 + conf->status.reftime);
reply.xmttime = d_to_lfp(3600 + gettime());

Not very elegant, but hey, that's for a brain dead Cisco VoIP phone! (:>

I think I might just add an entry in my dns like this

edt-only-for-brain-dead-cisco-est-edt-timezone-like-ntp-client.presscom.net

It's a dirty hack, but it will address the issue until Cisco fix it's 
shit I hope! If not, I will need to make it remove the correction 
automatically for EST/EDT switch then.


Thanks for your time.

Daniel

Re: Rackmount Servers using SATA

[Janne Johansson]

Kevin wrote:
>>I am curious if anyone has had any luck with either Dell or HP rackmount
>>servers running OpenBSD 3.6 or 3.7 with SATA drives?  (or others if you've
>>had success)
> I have had no luck with the embedded SATA controller in rackmount Dell
> products; it comes up in PIO mode (no DMA), crippling performance.
> 
> As Dell provides two PCI slits in even their 1U boxes, I added a standalone
> PCI SATA controller, carefully re-routed the SATA data cables, and all was
> well.  Other than the SATA controller, no other compatibility issues with
> the PE750 or PE1750, and I'm about to pick up a few new PE1850s based
> on endorsements from other misc@ readers.

Our Dell SATA 750's say this:
# dmesg | grep wd
wd0 at pciide0 channel 1 drive 0: 
wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 76293MB, 15625 sectors
wd0(pciide0:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5
dkcsum: wd0 matched BIOS disk 80
root on wd0a
rootdev=0x0 rrootdev=0x300 rawdev=0x302

They seem to work nicely with the internal SATA disks and Obsd3.7.

-- 
Janne Johansson
Sektionen fvr IT & Media, Stockholms Universitet
Frescati Hagvdg 10
106 91 STOCKHOLM
http://www.it.su.se

evolution on 3.7

[Mike Endsley]

This is what I did :
Did a fresh install of openbsd 3.7, installed ports and then installed the 
msttcorefonts package. I then installed evolution from ports. 
I set up X using twm and tried running evolution. Again, evolution crashed on 
the second screen "Evolution Setup Assistant/Receiving Email". When I clicked 
on the server type option, nothing was available other than "None". When I 
tried clickiing it again, evolution crashed. 
I deleted all related directories/files related to evolution and logged out. 
As root, I then installed kde, logged in a regular user, started evolution and 
the same thing happened. 
I tried running evolution from konsole and the following is what appeared when 
evolution crashed. 
Any ideas/help? 
Thanks,
Mike

-

Older configuration files detected, upgrading...

--> Configuration files upgraded from version 1.0.

evolution-shell-WARNING **: Error setting owner on component 
OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Mail_ShellComponent -- CORBA error

Waiting for component to die -- OAFIID:GNOME_Evolution_Calendar_ShellComponent 
(1)

[1]+  Done/usr/local/bin/evolution

Re: trouble installing evolution-1.2

[Schöberle Dániel]

Hi,

It's broken in 3.7-release and was broken in -current (I haven't tried 
-current for a month so it might be in better condition)

See http://www.lectroid.net/

BTW, there are some evolution lib problems on 3.6-stable too. If you pkg_add it 
before gnome-desktop it works fine but after you pkg_add gnome-desktop it fails 
to find shared libs. Manually adding evolution libpath to shlib_dirs in 
rc.conf.local seems to fix it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael + 
Marilynn Endsley
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:22 PM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: trouble installing evolution-1.2

Hi all.
I just installed 3.7 on this machine and all went well. 
I have been having trouble installing evolution either as package or port. 
The port wouldn't build and I have used pkg_add, pkg_delete, and then pkg_add 
again. 
The program starts, but on the second screen (Evolution Setup Assistant), the 
only button available to click is "None". When I click on it to change to 
pop, the program crashes. 
I have evolution on another openbsd system (3.5) and it runs fine. 
btw- after doing a pkg_delete of evolution and the data-server, I do delete 
all the gconf/evolution/etc files/directories in my home directory. 
I have used 2 different sites (rt.fm and openbsd.org) to install from and I 
get the same problem.
I have searched google, marc, monkeys, etc but no help :( 
I run evolution on my linux boxes, freebsd, and as stated my other openbsd 
systems with no problems at all so I am assuming it is something related to 
3.7?
What can I try next?
Thanks.Mike

ps- thanks to all you openbsd developers. I am enjoying 3.7!  :)

Re: flashdist-20050601 for OpenBSD 3.7

[Massimo]

On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 23:55 -0700, Chris Cappuccio wrote:

> Here is a new release that works on both OpenBSD 3.7 and OpenBSD-current
> as of June 1st (and should work on 3.6 with one or two minor adjustments
> of the packaging list)

Your work is really appreciated.

Thanks to OpenBSD and your script I'm putting together a series (twenty)
of 4801 devices to be part of a wide VPN dislocated around a in a MAN,
I'll put the result on a web pages if anyone is interested.

Ciao
-- 
Massimo.run();

Re: Problems with CPU/ARCH specific compilation!?

[Markus Kolb]

Theo de Raadt wrote on Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 08:51:58 -0600:
> Fine, talk what you want about.
> 
> But something you should think about is this:
> 
> It is a good idea if OpenBSD developers read these mailing lists too,
> for ideas as to what to change or fix.  But if the lists are just
> yammerings by idiots, do you think they will read it?  Many OpenBSD
> developers in fact have unsubscribed from these lists because of the
> yammering idiots.

Hey, I've posted a nice and friendly request to talk and got flamed by
an official OBSD developer. So who is yammering? They attack me and I
defend. 

> So go ahead, talk about what you want to, set your own agenda for the
> lists, and drive the developers away.

Which agenda? "Miscellaneous discussion about OpenBSD"?
That's what I've wanted to do.

But don't think about.
This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last OBSD
installation.
I will never buy any of your CDs again. I regret that I've financed with
CDs a value of a nice holiday trip.

The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility
with ours.
I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Your OS is only useable for
things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people
doing stuff you don't like.

Re: Problems with CPU/ARCH specific compilation!?

[Dunceor .]

"I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Your OS is only useable for
things you think about." Bingo, you hit jackpot.
The OpenBSD developers develop the OS for their needs, not everybody
else's needs.

On 6/3/05, Markus Kolb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Theo de Raadt wrote on Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 08:51:58 -0600:
> > Fine, talk what you want about.
> >
> > But something you should think about is this:
> >
> > It is a good idea if OpenBSD developers read these mailing lists too,
> > for ideas as to what to change or fix.  But if the lists are just
> > yammerings by idiots, do you think they will read it?  Many OpenBSD
> > developers in fact have unsubscribed from these lists because of the
> > yammering idiots.
> 
> Hey, I've posted a nice and friendly request to talk and got flamed by
> an official OBSD developer. So who is yammering? They attack me and I
> defend.
> 
> > So go ahead, talk about what you want to, set your own agenda for the
> > lists, and drive the developers away.
> 
> Which agenda? "Miscellaneous discussion about OpenBSD"?
> That's what I've wanted to do.
> 
> But don't think about.
> This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last OBSD
> installation.
> I will never buy any of your CDs again. I regret that I've financed with
> CDs a value of a nice holiday trip.
> 
> The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility
> with ours.
> I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Your OS is only useable for
> things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people
> doing stuff you don't like.

Re: Problems with CPU/ARCH specific compilation!?

[Lars Hansson]

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200
Markus Kolb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last OBSD
> installation.

You say it like you expect anyone to care.

> The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility
> with ours.

"Ours"? Who are these "ours"? The voices in your head?

> I got it that I am using the wrong OS.

Obviously.

> Your OS is only useable for
> things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people
> doing stuff you don't like.

This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english
even if you're upset. 

---
Lars Hansson

Re: Sun ELC?

[Alexander Bochmann]

...on Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 07:15:51AM +0100, Peter Galbavy wrote:

 > Gordon Grieder wrote:
 > >Before I start following sparc@ (if I go ahead with this): I recently
 > >"inherited" a Sun ELC. It's an ancient all-in-one thing that looks
 > Now ? Might work as a non caching nameserver - memory is rather limited, 
 > while CPU is OK-ish.

Up until three years ago or so, I was running a 
backup MX for about 50 customers on an 25MHz SS1+ 
(and one of them had roughly 6000 mail users), with 
postfix on OpenBSD.

Probably wouldn't work with today's spam levels 
though, regardless of the software used. At the 
time, disk space (an external 4GB disk for the 
spool filled up in about a day when the largest 
customer was offline) was more of a problem than 
CPU power.

Alex.

openbsd list fckery

[ccflyer]

Hello Lars,

AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars?  WHAT
FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap 
in
my inbox!?  Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his 
lapdog
roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for 
a
chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list?  I
mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP!  What good was your idiot 
email?

OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people.  Look at the motherfucking
installer for one tiny example.  One keyfumble or one return too 
many
and you are FUCKED, have to start over.  Haven't you fucking 
ASSHOLES
heard of "go back"? How far up your own ass do you have to be to 
code
such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to 
go
back and change that important N to a Y?  You don't even have to 
keep
state just store important choices as variables and allow us to 
change
variables at each prompt.  I could code something like that 20 
years
ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards?  Social retardation?
Horrid brain damage?  Are you just plain evil (in the covered in 
shit
retarded way)?

Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches
REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT.

Your attitude will serve you well in hell!

/UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!)

Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200
> Markus Kolb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last 
OBSD
>> installation.

> You say it like you expect anyone to care.

>> The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no 
compatibility
>> with ours.

> "Ours"? Who are these "ours"? The voices in your head?

>> I got it that I am using the wrong OS.

> Obviously.

>> Your OS is only useable for
>> things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate 
people
>> doing stuff you don't like.

> This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english
> even if you're upset. 

> ---
> Lars Hansson





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Re: zope apache chroot

[knitti]

On 6/3/05, Alec Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> smith on 2005-06-02 18:20:07 -0700:
> 
> > Has any one configured Zope with Apache with chroot?
> 
> I highly doubt that having Apache in a chroot or not will make a
> difference; generally Apache is used to proxy requests with
> mod_rewrite and mod_proxy.  The Zope site (and the Plone site) have a
> several example configurations.

thats exactly true. take the config samples from zope.org to have apache 
proxy and rewrite your urls. take your stock openbsd apache. it just works.

--knitti

Re: Problems with CPU/ARCH specific compilation!?

[Tony]

No, they hate it when you do things that are advised against and that tend
to
run into trouble and you expect them to bail you out when you don't even
supply any hard information about the failures.

I've been following this thread, actually a bit amazed at the reticence of
the
developers. About this "ours", there is no "ours" (plural), there is just
you.

This thread has supplied one useful bit of knowledge.
Anything dependent on 486-specific code is likely to be permanently broken.

As the OS being only useable for things [the developers] think about, I had
an easy time convincing my boss to buy the CDs, based solely on this list!
There are a number of savvy competent people here, and there is a fair
amount
of "heads-up" about things that will matter, regardless of platform.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Markus Kolb
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 5:48 AM
To: Theo de Raadt
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Problems with CPU/ARCH specific compilation!?

[snip]
The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no compatibility
with ours.
I got it that I am using the wrong OS. Your OS is only useable for
things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate people
doing stuff you don't like.

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Dunceor .]

Congrats to the most useless post on misc ever.

On 6/3/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Lars,
> 
> AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars?  WHAT
> FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap
> in
> my inbox!?  Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his
> lapdog
> roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for
> a
> chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list?  I
> mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP!  What good was your idiot
> email?
> 
> OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people.  Look at the motherfucking
> installer for one tiny example.  One keyfumble or one return too
> many
> and you are FUCKED, have to start over.  Haven't you fucking
> ASSHOLES
> heard of "go back"? How far up your own ass do you have to be to
> code
> such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to
> go
> back and change that important N to a Y?  You don't even have to
> keep
> state just store important choices as variables and allow us to
> change
> variables at each prompt.  I could code something like that 20
> years
> ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards?  Social retardation?
> Horrid brain damage?  Are you just plain evil (in the covered in
> shit
> retarded way)?
> 
> Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches
> REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT.
> 
> Your attitude will serve you well in hell!
> 
> /UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!)
> 
> Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200
> > Markus Kolb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last
> OBSD
> >> installation.
> 
> > You say it like you expect anyone to care.
> 
> >> The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no
> compatibility
> >> with ours.
> 
> > "Ours"? Who are these "ours"? The voices in your head?
> 
> >> I got it that I am using the wrong OS.
> 
> > Obviously.
> 
> >> Your OS is only useable for
> >> things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate
> people
> >> doing stuff you don't like.
> 
> > This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english
> > even if you're upset.
> 
> > ---
> > Lars Hansson
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get
> secure FREE email: http://www.hushmail.com/?l=2
> 
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Re: howto clean disks ?

[Ian Delahorne]

Diana Eichert wrote:

On Wed, 1 Jun 2005, Anthony Roberts wrote:



The 'dd' way is good enough unless someone is willing to to tear the
drive apart in a lab.



Items required for "sure fire" disk cleaning methodology.

qty. 1 hard drive to clean
qty. 1 high velocity military rifle
I usually use a .223 round, but other parts of the world may prefer
.308(7.62x51) or 7.62x54.
qty. what number of rounds you feel like of previously described firearm



I just take an axe to the disk.

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Lars Hansson]

On Fri,  3 Jun 2005 04:41:45 -0700
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Lars,
[snip vitriolic nonsense rant]

You're an idiot.

---
Lars Hansson

Security WebCams

[Dave Feustel]

I have an immediate need for detection of physical intrusion. 
I would like to have a webcam take and save pictures to disk 
when there is motion detected in the camera's field of view.
Is this doable  right now with OpenBSD?

Thanks,
Dave Feustel

Re: Sun Netra T1 105

[T. Ribbrock]

On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 08:04:38PM +0200, mdff wrote:
[...]
> for dell i'd choose obsd as well... but not for sun. theres trusted
> solaris and very good sec-features starting from sol9. also, i figured
> out that machine specific tools from the solaris os are not even planned
> under obsd.

Nonetheless, if I need to choose between trusting closed-source Solaris and
the open OpenBSD for security, I tend to trust OpenBSD more.


> furthermore for security, i guess it's always good 2 have a mix of
> hardware and os's.

In that sense it's even more interesting to run OpenBSD on Sparc, as
OpenBSD/Sparc would be a less common combination than Solaris/Sparc... ;-)

In addition, until the advent of Solaris 10 (which doesn't support older
Sparc hardware anymore), Solaris was far too expensive for home users like
myself - there was a so-called "free" (as in cost) licence, but that was
only valid for a limited set of machines and - even worse - only for
machines bought from Sun or a licenced dealer. None of my Suns falls
under that category, hence, Solaris 9 is a no-no for me.

With OpenBSD (or even Linux), at least I don't have to worry about all
that licence nonsense.

Cheerio,

Thomas
-- 
 ** PLEASE: NO Cc's to me privately, I do read the list - thanks! **
-
  Thomas Ribbrockhttp://www.ribbrock.orgICQ#: 15839919
   "You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!"

Re: Sun Netra T1 105

[T. Ribbrock]

On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 10:09:58AM -0500, Kevin wrote:
[...]
> The Netra T1/105 (and the Telco-grade CP1500) are nice machines,
[...]
> System stability is great, like the Sun hardware of old.  Performance is
> what you'd expect from a 360Mhz or 440Mhz UltraSparc IIi, not stellar
> but more than sufficient for a small mail gateway or packet filter.
[...]

I'm curious: Given that the Netras use the same CPUs as the U5/U10, do you
happen to have any idea how they compare? I've been using U5(first)/U10(now)
as my home firewall/web and mail server, originally with a 360MHz CPU, later
with a 333 (which has more cache than the 360) and now with a 400/440 - for
what I'm using them for they seem to be very sufficient - if not over the
top... :-} I'd expect the Netra T1/105 to perform similarly - or even
better?

Cheerio,

Thomas
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-
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   "You have to live on the edge of reality - to make your dreams come true!"

Re: Security WebCams

[Johan SANCHEZ]

On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 07:19:12 -0500
Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have an immediate need for detection of physical intrusion. 
> I would like to have a webcam take and save pictures to disk 
> when there is motion detected in the camera's field of view.
> Is this doable  right now with OpenBSD?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave Feustel
> 
> 

Hi Dave,
There are several solution like using a netcam like axis ones
with a perl script that grab shots to your disk .
There is also veo products,especially the veo observer i used it 
a time  coupled to good perl script that save pics to your disk.
hope it helps ,
Johan

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Dimitri Georganas]

It's always nice to see people find some level of harmony in their lives.

(I really love the obsd installer btw, please don't change it)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Lars,

AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars?  WHAT
FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap 
in
my inbox!?  Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his 
lapdog
roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for 
a

chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list?  I
mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP!  What good was your idiot 
email?


OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people.  Look at the motherfucking
installer for one tiny example.  One keyfumble or one return too 
many
and you are FUCKED, have to start over.  Haven't you fucking 
ASSHOLES
heard of "go back"? How far up your own ass do you have to be to 
code
such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to 
go
back and change that important N to a Y?  You don't even have to 
keep
state just store important choices as variables and allow us to 
change
variables at each prompt.  I could code something like that 20 
years

ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards?  Social retardation?
Horrid brain damage?  Are you just plain evil (in the covered in 
shit

retarded way)?

Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches
REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT.

Your attitude will serve you well in hell!

/UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!)

Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote:

Re: Apache chroot and webmail - what is it trying to use?

[Matthew S Elmore]

hosts and resolv.conf seemed to do the trick. Thanks much guys!

Wijnand Wiersma wrote:

Sometimes adding a
etc/hosts
file helps in the chroot.

I hope this helps.

Wijnand




--

Matthew S Elmore
dbTechnology Inc.Tuscaloosa, AL
www.dbtech.net   (205) 556-9020

Re: TV footage on Calgary news

[Jeffrey Lim]

On 5/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Someone who is local to the event want to rip it and throw it up on
> the internet for download?
> 

guess what? wonderful news!!

http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20050603094002

-jf

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Lubos Dusany]

 Hello,

Jesus Christ . do you someone know what's this guy means and why he
wrote emails like this ???
Some sexual problems ? :o)

Lubos

[EMAIL PROTECTED] napsal(a):

  Hello Lars,
  
  AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars?  WHAT
  FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap 
  in
  my inbox!?  Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his 
  lapdog
  roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for 
  a
  chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list?  I
  mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP!  What good was your idiot 
  email?
  
  OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people.  Look at the motherfucking
  installer for one tiny example.  One keyfumble or one return too 
  many
  and you are FUCKED, have to start over.  Haven't you fucking 
  ASSHOLES
  heard of "go back"? How far up your own ass do you have to be to 
  code
  such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to 
  go
  back and change that important N to a Y?  You don't even have to 
  keep
  state just store important choices as variables and allow us to 
  change
  variables at each prompt.  I could code something like that 20 
  years
  ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards?  Social retardation?
  Horrid brain damage?  Are you just plain evil (in the covered in 
  shit
  retarded way)?
  
  Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches
  REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT.
  
  Your attitude will serve you well in hell!
  
  /UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!)
  
  Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote:

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200
Markus Kolb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last 

  OBSD

  installation.

You say it like you expect anyone to care.

  The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no 

  compatibility

  with ours.

"Ours"? Who are these "ours"? The voices in your head?

  I got it that I am using the wrong OS.

Obviously.

  Your OS is only useable for
  things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate 

  people

  doing stuff you don't like.

This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english
even if you're upset. 

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Re: openbsd list fckery

[JR Dalrymple]

http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html

72 CPL please

good riddance

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Lars,

AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars?  WHAT
FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap 
in
my inbox!?  Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his 
lapdog
roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for 
a

chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list?  I
mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP!  What good was your idiot 
email?


OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people.  Look at the motherfucking
installer for one tiny example.  One keyfumble or one return too 
many
and you are FUCKED, have to start over.  Haven't you fucking 
ASSHOLES
heard of "go back"? How far up your own ass do you have to be to 
code
such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to 
go
back and change that important N to a Y?  You don't even have to 
keep
state just store important choices as variables and allow us to 
change
variables at each prompt.  I could code something like that 20 
years

ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards?  Social retardation?
Horrid brain damage?  Are you just plain evil (in the covered in 
shit

retarded way)?

Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches
REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT.

Your attitude will serve you well in hell!

/UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!)

Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote:

 


On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200
Markus Kolb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last 
 


OBSD
 


installation.
 



 


You say it like you expect anyone to care.
   



 

The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no 
 


compatibility
 


with ours.
 



 


"Ours"? Who are these "ours"? The voices in your head?
   



 


I got it that I am using the wrong OS.
 



 


Obviously.
   



 


Your OS is only useable for
things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate 
 


people
 


doing stuff you don't like.
 



 


This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english
even if you're upset. 
   



 


---
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Re: Sun ELC?

[Martin Schröder]

On 2005-06-03 07:15:51 +0100, Peter Galbavy wrote:
> Now ? Might work as a non caching nameserver - memory is rather limited, 
> while CPU is OK-ish.

It can house 64M. :-)

Main drawback: The monitor can't be switched off -- you can only
switch off the machine.

Best regards
Martin
-- 
http://www.tm.oneiros.de

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Dimitri Georganas]

I got private mail too, but my reply bounced...the [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
account was disabled (...)




I don't advocate for obsd. I just like the os, as it is stable and it 
does what it does.
I don't like the 'obsd attitude' either, but I ignore it. Personally I 
feel that if you don't
like peoples attitudes, it doesn't help to go the way you went on that 
list.


I do like the installer though, I'm serious. Not for it's user 
friendliness, but because

it works for me. I've seen better ones, I've seen worse.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

just tip of the iceberg, starting with what users see first, is only 
reason i gave that measly example.  openbsd is has so many problems 
that are unfixed because the advocates like yourself have such SHT 
attitudes and think you are so smart.  it is what gives me the 
greatest joy when i root you fcks and rm your machines.  such joy i 
cannot express.  your MiTC bitsy site may enjoy my company someday 
soon.  because, you know perfectly well the installer is shit you just 
choose to troll. want to debate the other more important sht wrong 
things about obsd? haha too bad i don't have any such interest. good 
day and bye.




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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Lars,

AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars?  WHAT
FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap 
in
my inbox!?  Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his 
lapdog
roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for 
a

chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list?  I
mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP!  What good was your idiot 
email?


OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people.  Look at the motherfucking
installer for one tiny example.  One keyfumble or one return too 
many
and you are FUCKED, have to start over.  Haven't you fucking 
ASSHOLES
heard of "go back"? How far up your own ass do you have to be to 
code
such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to 
go
back and change that important N to a Y?  You don't even have to 
keep
state just store important choices as variables and allow us to 
change
variables at each prompt.  I could code something like that 20 
years

ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards?  Social retardation?
Horrid brain damage?  Are you just plain evil (in the covered in 
shit

retarded way)?

Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches
REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT.

Your attitude will serve you well in hell!

/UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!)

Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote:

 


On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200
Markus Kolb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last 
 


OBSD
 


installation.
 



 


You say it like you expect anyone to care.
   



 

The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no 
 


compatibility
 


with ours.
 



 


"Ours"? Who are these "ours"? The voices in your head?
   



 


I got it that I am using the wrong OS.
 



 


Obviously.
   



 


Your OS is only useable for
things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate 
 


people
 


doing stuff you don't like.
 



 


This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english
even if you're upset. 
   



 


---
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Re: openbsd list fckery

[Scott Plumlee]

Look at the motherfucking
installer for one tiny example.  One keyfumble or one return too many
and you are FUCKED, have to start over.  Haven't you fucking ASSHOLES
heard of "go back"? How far up your own ass do you have to be to code
such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to go
back and change that important N to a Y?  You don't even have to keep
state just store important choices as variables and allow us to change
variables at each prompt.


About a week ago, I was trying to upgrade my dual boot laptop to 3.7.  I 
had to run the installer about 20 times to figure out my problem and 
correct it.  In the process, I learned more about fdisk and disklabel 
than I had ever needed to before, and I count that as a good thing. It 
took no more than about 5 minutes each time to run the installer from 
scratch to completion in each case.  Typing Ctrl-C and then "install" 
when you make a mistake isn't that difficult.


--

Scott Plumlee
PGP Public key: http://plumlee.org/pgp/

Re: openbsd list fckery

[JR Dalrymple]

The installer is awesome, it fits right beside the base kernel on ONE 
1.44 floppy (speaking for i386).


I love it

Dimitri Georganas wrote:

I got private mail too, but my reply bounced...the [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
account was disabled (...)




I don't advocate for obsd. I just like the os, as it is stable and it 
does what it does.
I don't like the 'obsd attitude' either, but I ignore it. Personally I 
feel that if you don't
like peoples attitudes, it doesn't help to go the way you went on that 
list.


I do like the installer though, I'm serious. Not for it's user 
friendliness, but because

it works for me. I've seen better ones, I've seen worse.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

just tip of the iceberg, starting with what users see first, is only 
reason i gave that measly example.  openbsd is has so many problems 
that are unfixed because the advocates like yourself have such SHT 
attitudes and think you are so smart.  it is what gives me the 
greatest joy when i root you fcks and rm your machines.  such joy i 
cannot express.  your MiTC bitsy site may enjoy my company someday 
soon.  because, you know perfectly well the installer is shit you 
just choose to troll. want to debate the other more important sht 
wrong things about obsd? haha too bad i don't have any such interest. 
good day and bye.




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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Lars,

AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars?  WHAT
FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap in
my inbox!?  Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his lapdog
roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for a
chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list?  I
mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP!  What good was your idiot email?

OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people.  Look at the motherfucking
installer for one tiny example.  One keyfumble or one return too many
and you are FUCKED, have to start over.  Haven't you fucking ASSHOLES
heard of "go back"? How far up your own ass do you have to be to code
such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to go
back and change that important N to a Y?  You don't even have to keep
state just store important choices as variables and allow us to change
variables at each prompt.  I could code something like that 20 years
ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards?  Social retardation?
Horrid brain damage?  Are you just plain evil (in the covered in shit
retarded way)?

Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches
REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT.

Your attitude will serve you well in hell!

/UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!)

Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote:

 


On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200
Markus Kolb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last 



OBSD
 


installation.





 


You say it like you expect anyone to care.
  



 

The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no 



compatibility
 


with ours.





 


"Ours"? Who are these "ours"? The voices in your head?
  



 


I got it that I am using the wrong OS.





 


Obviously.
  



 


Your OS is only useable for
things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate 



people
 


doing stuff you don't like.





 


This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english
even if you're upset.   



 


---
Lars Hansson
  







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openbsd.informatik.uni-erlangen.de downtime

[Alexander von Gernler]

Hi crowd,

openbsd.informatik.uni-erlangen.de is going to have downtime due to
maintenance work, beginning in a few minutes. Work should be finished
in less than 2 hours.

This affects also the various .de aliases the host is known under:
anoncvs2.de.openbsd.org, cvsup2.de.openbsd.org, cvsync.de.openbsd.org,
ftp3.de.openbsd.org, rsync.de.openbsd.org, www.de.openbsd.org

Happy hacking,
-- 
Alexander "grunk" von Gernler  PGP key 0xEBC27515
http://www.de.openbsd.org -- Free, functional, secure

G3 iMac not seeing all of disk

[Matthew S Elmore]

Greetings misc@,

I have run into a problem attempting to install OpenBSD 3.7 on a Rev. D 
(summer 2000, dark blue) iMac G3.


I have a 30GB IDE drive installed in place of the factory 7GB. MacOS X 
sees the entire disk with no problems. However, OpenBSD cannot.


It detects the size of the drive and I believe all it's specifications 
(correct # of cylinders, heads, sectors, etc.) when it boots but the 
disklabel editor will not allow me to install any partitions past the 
8GB barrier.


Any idea on how I can utilize this whole disk? I would like to use the 
entire disk for OpenBSD.


Regards,
Matt


--

Matthew S Elmore
dbTechnology Inc.Tuscaloosa, AL
www.dbtech.net   (205) 556-9020

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Ioan Nemes]

What really disturbs me, is that my doughtier reads this list (she is 
only 14).
I would like to see more brain and less testosteron - on _each side_, of 
_any

argument_!  Really, would help!

Ioan



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Lars,

AND of what fucking use was this shitty email from you Lars?  WHAT
FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU and why the fuck is your shitty-tongued crap 
in
my inbox!?  Isn't Theo enough of a malicious CUNT without his 
lapdog
roottard bitches yipping at his heels climbing over each other for 
a

chance to lick his stinking crack on this polluted mailing list?  I
mean for FUCK SAKE SHUT THE HELL UP!  What good was your idiot 
email?


OpenBSD is NOT run by kind people.  Look at the motherfucking
installer for one tiny example.  One keyfumble or one return too 
many
and you are FUCKED, have to start over.  Haven't you fucking 
ASSHOLES
heard of "go back"? How far up your own ass do you have to be to 
code
such a DEEPLY SHITTY INSTALLER that it won't even allow the user to 
go
back and change that important N to a Y?  You don't even have to 
keep
state just store important choices as variables and allow us to 
change
variables at each prompt.  I could code something like that 20 
years

ago, what is your excuse you fucking bastards?  Social retardation?
Horrid brain damage?  Are you just plain evil (in the covered in 
shit

retarded way)?

Everything I ever hear from cockmaster THEO and his little bitches
REEKS OF THIS SAME SHIT.

Your attitude will serve you well in hell!

/UNSUBSCRIBE (fuck you!!)

Friday, June 3, 2005, 4:12:36 AM, you wrote:

 


On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 12:47:41 +0200
Markus Kolb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

This is my last post to any of your lists and it was my last 
 


OBSD
 


installation.
 



 


You say it like you expect anyone to care.
   



 

The work you do is quite good but your mentality has no 
 


compatibility
 


with ours.
 



 


"Ours"? Who are these "ours"? The voices in your head?
   



 


I got it that I am using the wrong OS.
 



 


Obviously.
   



 


Your OS is only useable for
things you think about. So nothing free at all when you hate 
 


people
 


doing stuff you don't like.
 



 


This doesnt even make sense. Try to write comprehensible english
even if you're upset. 
   



 


---
Lars Hansson
   







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Re: openbsd list fckery

[Will H. Backman]

> About a week ago, I was trying to upgrade my dual boot laptop to 3.7.
I
> had to run the installer about 20 times to figure out my problem and
> correct it.  In the process, I learned more about fdisk and disklabel
> than I had ever needed to before, and I count that as a good thing. It
> took no more than about 5 minutes each time to run the installer from
> scratch to completion in each case.  Typing Ctrl-C and then "install"
> when you make a mistake isn't that difficult.
> 
> --

I think the installer should be the last thing to go "user friendly".
OpenBSD is not point and click.  If you can figure out the installer, it
means you actually read instructions.  If you could install OpenBSD by
just clicking "Next", you would be in for a rough ride after.

Re: Problems on boot

[linc]

Alex,

I have a 586 with an old scuzz card with no boot roms and a couple of
error-ful half-height drives.  The thing sounds like a jet powered
lawnmower when you turn it on.  But it works.

I simply leave the install floppy in the floppy drive, and when it gets
to the boot prompt, I do a 'boot sd0a:bsd' and it boots.

Prob solved.

Now you might be able to turn your boot capability on in the bios or the
scuzz bios.  That is up to you to figure out.

Have fun,

Linc

Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 22:19:14 +0300
From: Alex Stamatis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Problems on boot
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks all of you that replied to my message.

I just saw the dmesg and you were right. It says that Host adapter Bios
disabled. Using default scsi device parameters. So how do I get to
enable
the scsi adapters bios ?
The adapter is AIC-7850 and the hdd is a seagate.

Thanks again for the help !

Best Regards
Alex Stamatis

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Michael Shalayeff]

Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from Will H. Backman:
> > About a week ago, I was trying to upgrade my dual boot laptop to 3.7.
> I
> > had to run the installer about 20 times to figure out my problem and
> > correct it.  In the process, I learned more about fdisk and disklabel
> > than I had ever needed to before, and I count that as a good thing. It
> > took no more than about 5 minutes each time to run the installer from
> > scratch to completion in each case.  Typing Ctrl-C and then "install"
> > when you make a mistake isn't that difficult.
> > 
> > --
> 
> I think the installer should be the last thing to go "user friendly".
> OpenBSD is not point and click.  If you can figure out the installer, it
> means you actually read instructions.  If you could install OpenBSD by
> just clicking "Next", you would be in for a rough ride after.

actually 90% of the installer we have is just pushing "next".
everything has most common reasonable defaults.

so if it is really hard for you then perhaps you are just
retarded and need treatment w/ electricity and if that does
not help then perhaps should not use computers...

cu

-- 
paranoic mickey   (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)

3.5 packages ?

[donald]

I'm curious as to why there are 3.5 packages and such on the site. I 
thought only 2 versions were kept up at a time. I'm not complaining, 
just confused and curious.

~Donald

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner]

JR Dalrymple wrote:

The installer is awesome, it fits right beside the base kernel on ONE 
1.44 floppy (speaking for i386).


Yes, really thin. I just like that un-bloated one, no extras, just 
rude basement. That is enough for setting up a raw machine. More 
"tuning" could be done in later time in my opinion.


Regards,

Thorsten

Re: 3.5 packages ?

[eric]

On Fri, 2005-06-03 at 13:21:29 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] proclaimed...

> I'm curious as to why there are 3.5 packages and such on the site. I 
> thought only 2 versions were kept up at a time. I'm not complaining, 
> just confused and curious.



"The current policy requires mirrors listed on this page to provide at least
the last two releases in binary form (currently 3.6 and 3.7) for all
architectures, as well as the OpenSSH/, OpenNTPD/, OpenBGPD/, patches/ and
tools/ directories."

Re: 3.5 packages ?

[Marc Espie]

On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 01:21:29PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm curious as to why there are 3.5 packages and such on the site. I 
> thought only 2 versions were kept up at a time. I'm not complaining, 
> just confused and curious.

> ~Donald

They're not kept up to date.

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Thorsten von Plotho-Kettner]

Will H. Backman wrote:

About a week ago, I was trying to upgrade my dual boot laptop to 3.7.



I had to run the installer about 20 times to figure out my problem and
correct it.  In the process, I learned more about fdisk and disklabel
than I had ever needed to before, and I count that as a good thing. It
took no more than about 5 minutes each time to run the installer from
scratch to completion in each case.  Typing Ctrl-C and then "install"
when you make a mistake isn't that difficult.



I think the installer should be the last thing to go "user friendly".
OpenBSD is not point and click.  If you can figure out the installer, it
means you actually read instructions.  If you could install OpenBSD by
just clicking "Next", you would be in for a rough ride after.


Uh, I do not think so. The OpenBSD-installer is as easy as some 
gui-stuff, maybe much easier. Now blinking "Touch me"-Buttons, just 
straight work. I have done my first installation just without any 
documentation, it worked, but do not ask how the layout was :)


In my opinion not the user-friendly task is important, but the easy 
and fast setup-possibility. Sometimes I neeed just a raw installation 
with an anonymous ftp for backup up some machine in trouble or for 
fileserving some data for a temporary issue, for that cases I love 
OpenBSD (as for some other reasons).


Regards,

Thorsten

To Gordon Grider on misc@

[Dave Feustel]

To Gordon Grider: I got this message when I responded 
to your private response to my posting. 

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I think the easy way to do this is to get a camera
with a builtin capability to send jpegs to an
ftp client or other application. The trick is to
find something affordable and quickly.

I'll keep you posted.

Dave

On Friday 03 June 2005 07:42 am, you wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 07:19:12AM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote:
> > I have an immediate need for detection of physical intrusion. 
> > I would like to have a webcam take and save pictures to disk 
> > when there is motion detected in the camera's field of view.
> > Is this doable  right now with OpenBSD?
> 
> [off list]
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> I'm looking for something similar but my need isn't as urgent. If you
> happen to get replies off-list I'd appreciate a synopsis to the list,
> both for posterity and so I can look at whatever products are
> mentioned.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
>  GG

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Paul Greene]

I think Freud would have something to say about the issues this fellow 
is having with his sex life .


Dimitri Georganas wrote:

It's always nice to see people find some level of harmony in their lives.

(I really love the obsd installer btw, please don't change it)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Lars,



<>

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Sascha Ramin]

i think the installer is great, its so simple and straight forward, i 
could do it with my eyes closed.


what do you want gentoo's ? or fedoras.

this isn't linux, if you cant handle the installer, your going to have a 
hard time running the OS.


also if you think your really smart by using lots of four letter words, 
you've got more problems then just your installer.


also this isn't a tech support hotline, people are going to help you if 
they feel like it.


sbr

Re: flashdist-20050601 for OpenBSD 3.7

[Nikolai Nespor]

* 2005|06|03 08:13 Massimo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I'll put the result on a web pages if anyone is interested.

Yes please.

TIA

Nikolai

-- 
Ich verwalte sie. Ich zdhle sie und zdhle sie wieder.
Das ist nicht leicht. Aber ich bin ein ernsthafter Mann.
\\
 ---> Antoine de Saint-Exupery, "Der kleine Prinz"

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Will H. Backman]

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Shalayeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:59 AM
> To: Will H. Backman
> Cc: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Re: openbsd list fckery
> 
> Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from Will H. Backman:
> > > About a week ago, I was trying to upgrade my dual boot laptop to
3.7.
> > I
> > > had to run the installer about 20 times to figure out my problem
and
> > > correct it.  In the process, I learned more about fdisk and
disklabel
> > > than I had ever needed to before, and I count that as a good
thing. It
> > > took no more than about 5 minutes each time to run the installer
from
> > > scratch to completion in each case.  Typing Ctrl-C and then
"install"
> > > when you make a mistake isn't that difficult.
> > >
> > > --
> >
> > I think the installer should be the last thing to go "user
friendly".
> > OpenBSD is not point and click.  If you can figure out the
installer, it
> > means you actually read instructions.  If you could install OpenBSD
by
> > just clicking "Next", you would be in for a rough ride after.
> 
> actually 90% of the installer we have is just pushing "next".
> everything has most common reasonable defaults.
> 
> so if it is really hard for you then perhaps you are just
> retarded and need treatment w/ electricity and if that does
> not help then perhaps should not use computers...
> 

I never said it was hard for me.  I read the instructions.  I also read
the afterboot man page.

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Michael Shalayeff]

Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from Will H. Backman:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Shalayeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:59 AM
> > To: Will H. Backman
> > Cc: misc@openbsd.org
> > Subject: Re: openbsd list fckery
> > 
> > Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from Will H. Backman:
> > > > About a week ago, I was trying to upgrade my dual boot laptop to
> 3.7.
> > > I
> > > > had to run the installer about 20 times to figure out my problem
> and
> > > > correct it.  In the process, I learned more about fdisk and
> disklabel
> > > > than I had ever needed to before, and I count that as a good
> thing. It
> > > > took no more than about 5 minutes each time to run the installer
> from
> > > > scratch to completion in each case.  Typing Ctrl-C and then
> "install"
> > > > when you make a mistake isn't that difficult.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > >
> > > I think the installer should be the last thing to go "user
> friendly".
> > > OpenBSD is not point and click.  If you can figure out the
> installer, it
> > > means you actually read instructions.  If you could install OpenBSD
> by
> > > just clicking "Next", you would be in for a rough ride after.
> > 
> > actually 90% of the installer we have is just pushing "next".
> > everything has most common reasonable defaults.
> > 
> > so if it is really hard for you then perhaps you are just
> > retarded and need treatment w/ electricity and if that does
> > not help then perhaps should not use computers...
> > 
> 
> I never said it was hard for me.  I read the instructions.  I also read
> the afterboot man page.

it is addressed to the list as well so that may not necessarily
mean you in single but rather you in multitude of the list wankers (:

but since you actually took it upon self it's good.
maybe you do not need electricity treatment after all (:

cu

-- 
paranoic mickey   (my employers have changed but, the name has remained)

Doble mounted /var using mfs

[Schöberle Dániel]

Hi all,
I'm runnig 3.7-release on i386 with a 512MB CF card acting as wd0 and
I'm having a strange problem with mfs mounted /var. It gets mounted
twice, while I have only one mfs /var line in fstab.

I did a usual install directly on CF (hence all partitions physically exist
on CF) and wanted to mfs mount /var and /tmp based on existing
partitions. If I do it from command line (boot single user or edit fstab
not to mount /var) mfs /var is mounted only once. But if I enable it in
fstab it always gets mounted twice. Check it out:
(btw, there is no swap space the system has 64MB of ram so it should
all fit in nicely)
(and ignore the noatime stuff, currently I'm running the box with rw
mouned /var directly from the CF, and it made no difference regarding
the problem)

Help please?

> disklabel wd0
# using MBR partition 3: type A6 off 63 (0x3f) size 1000881 (0xf45b1)
# /dev/rwd0c:
type: ESDI
disk: ESDI/IDE disk
label: Hitachi XX.V.3.4
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 63
tracks/cylinder: 16
sectors/cylinder: 1008
cylinders: 993
total sectors: 1000944
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0   # microseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # microseconds
drivedata: 0
16 partitions:
# sizeoffset  fstype [fsize bsize  cpg]
  a:10275363  4.2BSD   2048 16384  102 # Cyl 0*-
101
  c:   1000944 0  unused  0 0  # Cyl 0 -
992
  d: 20160122976  4.2BSD   2048 16384   20 # Cyl   122 -
141
  e: 41328143136  4.2BSD   2048 16384   42 # Cyl   142 -
182
  g:816480184464  4.2BSD   2048 16384  328 # Cyl   183 -
992
  h: 20160102816  4.2BSD   2048 16384   20 # Cyl   102 -
121

> cat /etc/fstab
/dev/wd0a / ffs rw,noatime,softdep 1 1
/dev/wd0h /home ffs rw,noatime,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2
/dev/wd0g /usr ffs ro,noatime,nodev,softdep 1 2
#/dev/wd0e /var ffs rw,noatime,noexec,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2
/dev/wd0e /var mfs rw,-P=/dev/wd0e,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
/dev/wd0d /tmp mfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0

> mount
/dev/wd0a on / type ffs (local, noatime, softdep)
/dev/wd0h on /home type ffs (local, noatime, nodev, nosuid, softdep)
/dev/wd0g on /usr type ffs (local, noatime, nodev, read-only, softdep)
mfs:25832 on /var type mfs (asynchronous, local, nodev, noexec, nosuid,
size=41328 512-blocks)
mfs:160 on /tmp type mfs (asynchronous, local, nodev, noexec, nosuid,
size=20160 512-blocks)
mfs:31849 on /var type mfs (asynchronous, local, nodev, noexec, nosuid,
size=41328 512-blocks)

> df
Filesystem  1K-blocks  Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/wd0a   50526 31602 1639866%/
/dev/wd0h987030  9348 0%/home
/dev/wd0g  40039827436210601872%/usr
mfs:25832   20278  7298 1196838%/var
mfs:160  9870 6  9372 0%/tmp
mfs:31849   20278  7306 1196038%/var

> dmesg
OpenBSD 3.7 (GENERIC) #50: Sun Mar 20 00:01:57 MST 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel Pentium (P54C) ("GenuineIntel" 586-class) 75 MHz
cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8
cpu0: F00F bug workaround installed
real mem  = 66691072 (65128K)
avail mem = 53440512 (52188K)
using 839 buffers containing 3436544 bytes (3356K) of memory
mainbus0 (root)
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 10/20/98, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd770
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.1
apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown, estimated 0:00 hours
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.0 @ 0xf/0x1
pcibios0: pcibios_get_intr_routing - function not supported
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing information unavailable.
pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus
WARNING: can't reserve area for BIOS PROM.
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "VLSI 82C594 Wildcat" rev 0x01
pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "VLSI 82C596/597 Wildcat ISA" rev 0x01
de0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "DEC 21041" rev 0x21: irq 9
de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 2.1 address 00:80:c8:47:5c:86
de1 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 "DEC 21041" rev 0x11: irq 9
de1: SMC 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 address 00:e0:29:04:73:c9
vga1 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 "Cirrus Logic CL-GD5434-8" rev 0xfc
wsdisplay0 at vga1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
le1 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "AMD 79c970 PCnet-PCI" rev 0x02: irq 9
le1: address 08:00:09:f8:7b:bf
le1: 8 receive buffers, 2 transmit buffers
pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "CMD Technology PCI0640" rev 0x02: no DMA,
channel 0 wired to compatibility, channel 1 wired to compatibility
wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: 
wd0: 1-sector PIO, LBA, 488MB, 1000944 sectors
pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled)
isa0 at pcib0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0 (mux 1 ignored for console): console keyboard, 

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Abraham Al-Saleh]

I'm also a fan of the installer. It takes about five minutes for me to
install a server from a local mirror. another 10-30 to configure it,
depending on the task.

On 6/3/05, Will H. Backman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Shalayeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 10:59 AM
> > To: Will H. Backman
> > Cc: misc@openbsd.org
> > Subject: Re: openbsd list fckery
> >
> > Making, drinking tea and reading an opus magnum from Will H. Backman:
> > > > About a week ago, I was trying to upgrade my dual boot laptop to
> 3.7.
> > > I
> > > > had to run the installer about 20 times to figure out my problem
> and
> > > > correct it. In the process, I learned more about fdisk and
> disklabel
> > > > than I had ever needed to before, and I count that as a good
> thing. It
> > > > took no more than about 5 minutes each time to run the installer
> from
> > > > scratch to completion in each case. Typing Ctrl-C and then
> "install"
> > > > when you make a mistake isn't that difficult.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > >
> > > I think the installer should be the last thing to go "user
> friendly".
> > > OpenBSD is not point and click. If you can figure out the
> installer, it
> > > means you actually read instructions. If you could install OpenBSD
> by
> > > just clicking "Next", you would be in for a rough ride after.
> >
> > actually 90% of the installer we have is just pushing "next".
> > everything has most common reasonable defaults.
> >
> > so if it is really hard for you then perhaps you are just
> > retarded and need treatment w/ electricity and if that does
> > not help then perhaps should not use computers...
> >
>
> I never said it was hard for me. I read the instructions. I also read
> the afterboot man page.
>
>


--
Abe Al-Saleh
And then came the Apocolypse. It actually wasn't that
bad, everyone got the day off and there were barbeques
all around.

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Bill Chmura]

I've only done a few installs, so I may be closer to the process than
someone who has done it a hundred times...  I had no real problem with
it.  

Half the time people talking about user friendly really mean "pretty
and glossy" which really is purely marketing.   I've done a lot of
Gentoo installs that were much harder than the obsd installer (when I
finished obsd I said - damn, thats all?).  Gentoo really does not have
an installer - a boot disc and a lot of installation instructions.

I made a few mistakes where going "back" may have helped, but I am not
really sure it would have.  Besides, making me start over kinda
reinforced my learning so I did not do it again (bad dog, bad, whack
with paper).  I am sure someone will flame me for even commenting on
that, then a gaggle of glommers-on on will flame me, then the people
that want to be like them will flame me :)  

Otherwise, I thought it was simplicity itself.  No problems at all,
worked great.  Installation instructions worked fine too.


On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 13:01:33 -0400 (EDT)
Sascha Ramin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i think the installer is great, its so simple and straight forward, i 
> could do it with my eyes closed.
> 
> what do you want gentoo's ? or fedoras.
> 
> this isn't linux, if you cant handle the installer, your going to have a 
> hard time running the OS.
> 
> also if you think your really smart by using lots of four letter words, 
> you've got more problems then just your installer.
> 
> also this isn't a tech support hotline, people are going to help you if 
> they feel like it.
> 
> sbr
> 

-- 

Bill Chmura
Explosivo ITG
w. http://www.explosivo.com

Crude ISP Failover script for SOHO use

[Jason Haag]

I put together a very crude ISP failover script for a small office
running an OpenBSD firewall and 2 broadband Internet connections.

It's run every minute from root's crontab.

Comments welcome, keep in mind that I am not a programmer. And I know
the "echo > /dev/null" lines are ugly, and I even know how to fix it, I
just didn't do it yet.

Enjoy!

-Jason

=

$ cat failover
#!/bin/sh

EMAIL=insert_your_INTERNAL_email_account_here
PRIMARY_IP=static_ip_of_primary_connection
PRIMARY_GW=ip_of_primary_gateway
BACKUP_IP=static_ip_of_backup_connection
BACKUP_GW=ip_of_backup_gateway

DEFAULT_GW=`cat /etc/mygate`

# echo "Begin Default GW: $DEFAULT_GW"

# test if primary is up
if { ping -c 5 -w 2 -I $PRIMARY_IP $PRIMARY_GW > /dev/null; } then
# primary up, check default gateway
if [ $PRIMARY_GW == $DEFAULT_GW ]; then
# primary gateway equals default gateway: exit
# echo "Primary up, no change"
echo > /dev/null
else
# set default gateway to primary
logger -s -t "Failover" "Restoring PRIMARY connection."
echo -n $PRIMARY_GW > /etc/mygate
route change default $PRIMARY_GW
fi
elif { ping -c 5 -w 2 -I $BACKUP_IP $BACKUP_GW > /dev/null; } then
# primary down, backup up: test default gateway
if [ $BACKUP_GW == $DEFAULT_GW ]; then
# secondary is already default: exit
# echo "Secondary up, no change"
echo > /dev/null
else
# switch default gateway to backup
logger -s -t "Failover" "Switching to BACKUP
connection."
echo -n $BACKUP_GW > /etc/mygate
route change default $BACKUP_GW
fi
else
# both are down
logger -s -t "Failover" "Both Internet gateways are DOWN!"
echo "Both Internet gateways are DOWN!" | mail -s "Failover
warning!" $EMAIL
fi

# echo "End Default GW: $DEFAULT_GW"

=

Re: Doble mounted /var using mfs

[Stephen Marley]

On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 06:52:24PM +0200, Schvberle Daniel wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm runnig 3.7-release on i386 with a 512MB CF card acting as wd0 and
> I'm having a strange problem with mfs mounted /var. It gets mounted
> twice, while I have only one mfs /var line in fstab.
...
> Help please?

/etc/rc mounts it too. Easiest fix is to add the 'noauto' option to
fstab.

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Doble mounted /var using mfs

[Mike Wolman]

You need to edit /etc/rc and on about line 185

mount /var >/dev/null 2>&1

comment this out reboot and all should be ok

Mike.

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, [iso-8859-1] Schvberle Daniel wrote:

> Hi all,
> I'm runnig 3.7-release on i386 with a 512MB CF card acting as wd0 and
> I'm having a strange problem with mfs mounted /var. It gets mounted
> twice, while I have only one mfs /var line in fstab.
>
> I did a usual install directly on CF (hence all partitions physically exist
> on CF) and wanted to mfs mount /var and /tmp based on existing
> partitions. If I do it from command line (boot single user or edit fstab
> not to mount /var) mfs /var is mounted only once. But if I enable it in
> fstab it always gets mounted twice. Check it out:
> (btw, there is no swap space the system has 64MB of ram so it should
> all fit in nicely)
> (and ignore the noatime stuff, currently I'm running the box with rw
> mouned /var directly from the CF, and it made no difference regarding
> the problem)
>
> Help please?
>
>> disklabel wd0
> # using MBR partition 3: type A6 off 63 (0x3f) size 1000881 (0xf45b1)
> # /dev/rwd0c:
> type: ESDI
> disk: ESDI/IDE disk
> label: Hitachi XX.V.3.4
> flags:
> bytes/sector: 512
> sectors/track: 63
> tracks/cylinder: 16
> sectors/cylinder: 1008
> cylinders: 993
> total sectors: 1000944
> rpm: 3600
> interleave: 1
> trackskew: 0
> cylinderskew: 0
> headswitch: 0   # microseconds
> track-to-track seek: 0  # microseconds
> drivedata: 0
> 16 partitions:
> # sizeoffset  fstype [fsize bsize  cpg]
>  a:10275363  4.2BSD   2048 16384  102 # Cyl 0*-
> 101
>  c:   1000944 0  unused  0 0  # Cyl 0 -
> 992
>  d: 20160122976  4.2BSD   2048 16384   20 # Cyl   122 -
> 141
>  e: 41328143136  4.2BSD   2048 16384   42 # Cyl   142 -
> 182
>  g:816480184464  4.2BSD   2048 16384  328 # Cyl   183 -
> 992
>  h: 20160102816  4.2BSD   2048 16384   20 # Cyl   102 -
> 121
>
>> cat /etc/fstab
> /dev/wd0a / ffs rw,noatime,softdep 1 1
> /dev/wd0h /home ffs rw,noatime,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2
> /dev/wd0g /usr ffs ro,noatime,nodev,softdep 1 2
> #/dev/wd0e /var ffs rw,noatime,noexec,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2
> /dev/wd0e /var mfs rw,-P=/dev/wd0e,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
> /dev/wd0d /tmp mfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
>
>> mount
> /dev/wd0a on / type ffs (local, noatime, softdep)
> /dev/wd0h on /home type ffs (local, noatime, nodev, nosuid, softdep)
> /dev/wd0g on /usr type ffs (local, noatime, nodev, read-only, softdep)
> mfs:25832 on /var type mfs (asynchronous, local, nodev, noexec, nosuid,
> size=41328 512-blocks)
> mfs:160 on /tmp type mfs (asynchronous, local, nodev, noexec, nosuid,
> size=20160 512-blocks)
> mfs:31849 on /var type mfs (asynchronous, local, nodev, noexec, nosuid,
> size=41328 512-blocks)
>
>> df
> Filesystem  1K-blocks  Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/wd0a   50526 31602 1639866%/
> /dev/wd0h987030  9348 0%/home
> /dev/wd0g  40039827436210601872%/usr
> mfs:25832   20278  7298 1196838%/var
> mfs:160  9870 6  9372 0%/tmp
> mfs:31849   20278  7306 1196038%/var
>
>> dmesg
> OpenBSD 3.7 (GENERIC) #50: Sun Mar 20 00:01:57 MST 2005
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
> cpu0: Intel Pentium (P54C) ("GenuineIntel" 586-class) 75 MHz
> cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8
> cpu0: F00F bug workaround installed
> real mem  = 66691072 (65128K)
> avail mem = 53440512 (52188K)
> using 839 buffers containing 3436544 bytes (3356K) of memory
> mainbus0 (root)
> bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 10/20/98, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd770
> apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.1
> apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown, estimated 0:00 hours
> pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.0 @ 0xf/0x1
> pcibios0: pcibios_get_intr_routing - function not supported
> pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing information unavailable.
> pcibios0: PCI bus #0 is the last bus
> WARNING: can't reserve area for BIOS PROM.
> bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000
> cpu0 at mainbus0
> pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
> pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "VLSI 82C594 Wildcat" rev 0x01
> pcib0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "VLSI 82C596/597 Wildcat ISA" rev 0x01
> de0 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "DEC 21041" rev 0x21: irq 9
> de0: 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 2.1 address 00:80:c8:47:5c:86
> de1 at pci0 dev 3 function 0 "DEC 21041" rev 0x11: irq 9
> de1: SMC 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 1.1 address 00:e0:29:04:73:c9
> vga1 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 "Cirrus Logic CL-GD5434-8" rev 0xfc
> wsdisplay0 at vga1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
> le1 at pci0 dev 6 function 0 "AMD 79c970 PCnet-PCI" rev 0x02: irq 9
> le1: address 08:00:09:f8:7b:bf
> le1: 8 receive buffers, 2 transmit buffers
> pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 "CMD Technolog

Re: Just let it die (openbsd list fckery)

[Sean Brown]

On June 3, 2005 10:45 am, Paul Greene wrote:
> I think Freud would have something to say about the issues this fellow
> is having with his sex life .
>

How about letting this drop. I'm sure the troll has had is fill.

> Dimitri Georganas wrote:
> > It's always nice to see people find some level of harmony in their lives.
> >
> > (I really love the obsd installer btw, please don't change it)
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> Hello Lars,
>
> <>

Re: Doble mounted /var using mfs

[Andy Jack]

On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 06:52:24PM +0200, Sch?berle D?niel wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm runnig 3.7-release on i386 with a 512MB CF card acting as wd0 and
> I'm having a strange problem with mfs mounted /var. It gets mounted
> twice, while I have only one mfs /var line in fstab.
[snip] 
> > cat /etc/fstab
> /dev/wd0a / ffs rw,noatime,softdep 1 1
> /dev/wd0h /home ffs rw,noatime,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2
> /dev/wd0g /usr ffs ro,noatime,nodev,softdep 1 2
> #/dev/wd0e /var ffs rw,noatime,noexec,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2
> /dev/wd0e /var mfs rw,-P=/dev/wd0e,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
> /dev/wd0d /tmp mfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0

I would suspect the /dev/wd0e line in your fstab is the culprit; all of
the mfs examples I have seen in /etc/fstab look like:

swap /var mfs rw,-P=/dev/wd0e,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0

as in: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=111205241028217&w=2

hth,
Andy

Re: Doble mounted /var using mfs

[Schöberle Dániel]

Always learning...

That did it. Thank you for the quick answer.
---



From: Stephen Marley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 06:52:24PM +0200, Schvberle Daniel wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm runnig 3.7-release on i386 with a 512MB CF card acting as wd0 and
> I'm having a strange problem with mfs mounted /var. It gets mounted
> twice, while I have only one mfs /var line in fstab.
...
> Help please?

/etc/rc mounts it too. Easiest fix is to add the 'noauto' option to
fstab.

--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: G3 iMac not seeing all of disk

[Otto Moerbeek]

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Matthew S Elmore wrote:

> Greetings misc@,
> 
> I have run into a problem attempting to install OpenBSD 3.7 on a Rev. D
> (summer 2000, dark blue) iMac G3.
> 
> I have a 30GB IDE drive installed in place of the factory 7GB. MacOS X sees
> the entire disk with no problems. However, OpenBSD cannot.
> 
> It detects the size of the drive and I believe all it's specifications
> (correct # of cylinders, heads, sectors, etc.) when it boots but the disklabel
> editor will not allow me to install any partitions past the 8GB barrier.
> 
> Any idea on how I can utilize this whole disk? I would like to use the entire
> disk for OpenBSD.

The b command in disklabel interactive editor is your friend,

-Otto

Re: Doble mounted /var using mfs

[Schöberle Dániel]

I tried with 'swap' and it was the same. Besides, it only directs mfs to set
the
'partition' parameters based on /dev/wd0e.

Already got the right answer but thanks for writing.
---
From: Andy Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

>On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 06:52:24PM +0200, Sch?berle D?niel wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I'm runnig 3.7-release on i386 with a 512MB CF card acting as wd0 and
>> I'm having a strange problem with mfs mounted /var. It gets mounted
>> twice, while I have only one mfs /var line in fstab.
[snip]
>> > cat /etc/fstab
>> /dev/wd0a / ffs rw,noatime,softdep 1 1
>> /dev/wd0h /home ffs rw,noatime,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2
>> /dev/wd0g /usr ffs ro,noatime,nodev,softdep 1 2
>> #/dev/wd0e /var ffs rw,noatime,noexec,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2
.> /dev/wd0e /var mfs rw,-P=/dev/wd0e,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
.> /dev/wd0d /tmp mfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
>
>I would suspect the /dev/wd0e line in your fstab is the culprit; all of
>the mfs examples I have seen in /etc/fstab look like:
>
>swap /var mfs rw,-P=/dev/wd0e,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
>
>as in: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=111205241028217&w=2

Re: Doble mounted /var using mfs

[Otto Moerbeek]

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Andy Jack wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 06:52:24PM +0200, Sch?berle D?niel wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I'm runnig 3.7-release on i386 with a 512MB CF card acting as wd0 and
> > I'm having a strange problem with mfs mounted /var. It gets mounted
> > twice, while I have only one mfs /var line in fstab.
> [snip] 
> > > cat /etc/fstab
> > /dev/wd0a / ffs rw,noatime,softdep 1 1
> > /dev/wd0h /home ffs rw,noatime,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2
> > /dev/wd0g /usr ffs ro,noatime,nodev,softdep 1 2
> > #/dev/wd0e /var ffs rw,noatime,noexec,nodev,nosuid,softdep 1 2
> > /dev/wd0e /var mfs rw,-P=/dev/wd0e,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
> > /dev/wd0d /tmp mfs rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
> 
> I would suspect the /dev/wd0e line in your fstab is the culprit; all of
> the mfs examples I have seen in /etc/fstab look like:
> 
> swap /var mfs rw,-P=/dev/wd0e,noexec,nosuid,nodev 0 0
> 
> as in: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-misc&m=111205241028217&w=2

It's a perfectly legal fstab line, as is made clear in the man page
(second paragraph).

The primary swap device is mosty often used here, but it is not wrong
to use another device, as only the disklabel parameters are read from
the device specified.

BTW, I prefer the 'noauto' solution to the OP problem.

-Otto

Re: G3 iMac not seeing all of disk

[Matthew S Elmore]

Otto,

Thanks for help friend. Of course, when I went back to look, that 
command seemed to appear in extra large bold type. ;)


Many thanks!

Otto Moerbeek wrote:

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Matthew S Elmore wrote:



Greetings misc@,

I have run into a problem attempting to install OpenBSD 3.7 on a Rev. D
(summer 2000, dark blue) iMac G3.

I have a 30GB IDE drive installed in place of the factory 7GB. MacOS X sees
the entire disk with no problems. However, OpenBSD cannot.

It detects the size of the drive and I believe all it's specifications
(correct # of cylinders, heads, sectors, etc.) when it boots but the disklabel
editor will not allow me to install any partitions past the 8GB barrier.

Any idea on how I can utilize this whole disk? I would like to use the entire
disk for OpenBSD.



The b command in disklabel interactive editor is your friend,

-Otto

Re: Summer of Code ?

[Bob Beck]

I'd have no problem coming up with or supervising a few projects for 
students like this, unfortunately, they aren't taking other projects
anymore...

-Bob


* Dunceor . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-02 23:45]:
> I'm actually tryin to do some of the NetBSD projects to OpenBSD
> directly, without caring about the google contest.
> I still think it's a good motivation for a student to spend alot of hours on 
> it.
> But in the end, nobody should code on suchs projects for the money,
> but for the fun.
> 
> I got a few plans as I said, I just need to do some research around it.
> 
> // Dunceor
> 
> On 6/3/05, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Dunceor . wrote:
> > 
> > > > Ed White wrote:
> > > > > http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Where is OpenBSD ?
> > 
> > why is your email two days late?
> > 
> > > Well I think it's a great oppertunity to let a student dive into the
> > > OS and they would probobly continue to work on the project afterwards.
> > > I saw that and missed OpenBSD also.
> > > They had some nice projects over at NetBSD actually.
> > 
> > it's not like a bsd rsync, or a better ffs, or ... wouldn't help openbsd
> > either.
> > 
> > hell, go do something for openbsd, port to netbsd, claim the money.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > all we're waiting for is for something worth waiting for
> 

-- 
Bob Beck   Computing and Network Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   University of Alberta
True Evil hides its real intentions in its street address.

Re: Summer of Code ?

[Josh Tolley]

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the intent of your email, but I'll bite.
I'm a CS student (nearly graduated) with a job, family, and
programming projects on the side, but one of my dreams would be to be
able to, say, write drivers (provided hardware manufacturers ever
release docs...) and I'd love to learn how. My first goal, though,
would have to be getting more proficient in C and making sure I can
use it effectivley on OpenBSD.

So as I said, perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree, but where do I
start? What resources are there? I love the man pages, but so far as
I've seen anyway, there's not a place where I can begin to say "Here's
step 1 of 1549 in writing a driver". Nor is there a place I've seen
that says, "This needs to be written, wouldn't take tons of
experience, but takes time no one has wanted to spend on it -- go to".
Can you offer suggestions?

I appreciate any help you can give, even if it's just "RTFM". Thanks.

-Josh Tolley

On 6/3/05, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd have no problem coming up with or supervising a few projects for
> students like this, unfortunately, they aren't taking other projects
> anymore...
> 
> -Bob
> 
> 
> * Dunceor . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-02 23:45]:
> > I'm actually tryin to do some of the NetBSD projects to OpenBSD
> > directly, without caring about the google contest.
> > I still think it's a good motivation for a student to spend alot of hours 
> > on it.
> > But in the end, nobody should code on suchs projects for the money,
> > but for the fun.
> >
> > I got a few plans as I said, I just need to do some research around it.
> >
> > // Dunceor
> >
> > On 6/3/05, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Dunceor . wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Ed White wrote:
> > > > > > http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where is OpenBSD ?
> > >
> > > why is your email two days late?
> > >
> > > > Well I think it's a great oppertunity to let a student dive into the
> > > > OS and they would probobly continue to work on the project afterwards.
> > > > I saw that and missed OpenBSD also.
> > > > They had some nice projects over at NetBSD actually.
> > >
> > > it's not like a bsd rsync, or a better ffs, or ... wouldn't help openbsd
> > > either.
> > >
> > > hell, go do something for openbsd, port to netbsd, claim the money.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > all we're waiting for is for something worth waiting for
> >
> 
> --
> Bob Beck   Computing and Network Services
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   University of Alberta
> True Evil hides its real intentions in its street address.

Re: Summer of Code ?

[Bob Beck]

Actually, when it comes to drivers it's usually not 
"RTFM" it's "RTFS" - Read the Fucking Source  :) 

Seriously, none of us sit down and write a man page
about how to WRITE a device driver. the simple way is to take
a device similar to what you are looking at porting to and start
reading code. 

For example, let's say you have a particular ethernet card,
for which there is support in say, linux, or netbsd, but not in 
OpenBSD.  Find a card for which there is support in both. Now read
the source code for both device drivers, and compare how both
OS's do things slightly differently. Now use the device driver
code from the other OS, and start bringing it over into OpenBSD. 

During the process you'll probably learn how to break the
kernel 50 different ways, but you'll learn something.

Writing a driver from a spec provided by a vendor is also possible
too, but again, you start with a similar driver and adapt while you
learn. 

Having said that, what I was talking about is the Google
contest, it's closed to new "project" submittors, so I won't be
doing this for OpenBSD this year :) 

-Bob


* Josh Tolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-03 14:15]:
> Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the intent of your email, but I'll bite.
> I'm a CS student (nearly graduated) with a job, family, and
> programming projects on the side, but one of my dreams would be to be
> able to, say, write drivers (provided hardware manufacturers ever
> release docs...) and I'd love to learn how. My first goal, though,
> would have to be getting more proficient in C and making sure I can
> use it effectivley on OpenBSD.
> 
> So as I said, perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree, but where do I
> start? What resources are there? I love the man pages, but so far as
> I've seen anyway, there's not a place where I can begin to say "Here's
> step 1 of 1549 in writing a driver". Nor is there a place I've seen
> that says, "This needs to be written, wouldn't take tons of
> experience, but takes time no one has wanted to spend on it -- go to".
> Can you offer suggestions?
> 
> I appreciate any help you can give, even if it's just "RTFM". Thanks.
> 
> -Josh Tolley
> 
> On 6/3/05, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'd have no problem coming up with or supervising a few projects for
> > students like this, unfortunately, they aren't taking other projects
> > anymore...
> > 
> > -Bob
> > 
> > 
> > * Dunceor . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-02 23:45]:
> > > I'm actually tryin to do some of the NetBSD projects to OpenBSD
> > > directly, without caring about the google contest.
> > > I still think it's a good motivation for a student to spend alot of hours 
> > > on it.
> > > But in the end, nobody should code on suchs projects for the money,
> > > but for the fun.
> > >
> > > I got a few plans as I said, I just need to do some research around it.
> > >
> > > // Dunceor
> > >
> > > On 6/3/05, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Dunceor . wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > Ed White wrote:
> > > > > > > http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Where is OpenBSD ?
> > > >
> > > > why is your email two days late?
> > > >
> > > > > Well I think it's a great oppertunity to let a student dive into the
> > > > > OS and they would probobly continue to work on the project afterwards.
> > > > > I saw that and missed OpenBSD also.
> > > > > They had some nice projects over at NetBSD actually.
> > > >
> > > > it's not like a bsd rsync, or a better ffs, or ... wouldn't help openbsd
> > > > either.
> > > >
> > > > hell, go do something for openbsd, port to netbsd, claim the money.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > all we're waiting for is for something worth waiting for
> > >
> > 
> > --
> > Bob Beck   Computing and Network Services
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]   University of Alberta
> > True Evil hides its real intentions in its street address.
> 

-- 
Bob Beck   Computing and Network Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   University of Alberta
True Evil hides its real intentions in its street address.

Re: Summer of Code ?

[kroty]

Josh Tolley wrote:

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the intent of your email, but I'll bite.
I'm a CS student (nearly graduated) with a job, family, and
programming projects on the side, but one of my dreams would be to be
able to, say, write drivers (provided hardware manufacturers ever
release docs...) and I'd love to learn how. My first goal, though,
would have to be getting more proficient in C and making sure I can
use it effectivley on OpenBSD.

So as I said, perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree, but where do I
start? What resources are there? I love the man pages, but so far as
I've seen anyway, there's not a place where I can begin to say "Here's
step 1 of 1549 in writing a driver". Nor is there a place I've seen
that says, "This needs to be written, wouldn't take tons of
experience, but takes time no one has wanted to spend on it -- go to".
Can you offer suggestions?

I appreciate any help you can give, even if it's just "RTFM". Thanks.

-Josh Tolley

On 6/3/05, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'd have no problem coming up with or supervising a few projects for
students like this, unfortunately, they aren't taking other projects
anymore...

   -Bob


* Dunceor . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-02 23:45]:


I'm actually tryin to do some of the NetBSD projects to OpenBSD
directly, without caring about the google contest.
I still think it's a good motivation for a student to spend alot of hours on it.
But in the end, nobody should code on suchs projects for the money,
but for the fun.

I got a few plans as I said, I just need to do some research around it.

// Dunceor

On 6/3/05, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Dunceor . wrote:



Ed White wrote:


http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html

Where is OpenBSD ?


why is your email two days late?



Well I think it's a great oppertunity to let a student dive into the
OS and they would probobly continue to work on the project afterwards.
I saw that and missed OpenBSD also.
They had some nice projects over at NetBSD actually.


it's not like a bsd rsync, or a better ffs, or ... wouldn't help openbsd
either.

hell, go do something for openbsd, port to netbsd, claim the money.


--
all we're waiting for is for something worth waiting for



--
Bob Beck   Computing and Network Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   University of Alberta
True Evil hides its real intentions in its street address.





I was in the same situation a month ago. So I decided to purchase
"Writing Linux Device Drivers" from OReilly. It have the fundamental
concepts about the subject and simple exambples. So take them and try
to port the examples to OpenBSD. In order to do this, of source, you'll
have to RTFS. But it's fun and you go tiny step by tiny step learning.

Re: Summer of Code ?

[Wijnand Wiersma]

2005/6/3, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> For example, let's say you have a particular ethernet card,
> for which there is support in say, linux, or netbsd, but not in
> OpenBSD.  Find a card for which there is support in both. Now read
> the source code for both device drivers, and compare how both
> OS's do things slightly differently. Now use the device driver
> code from the other OS, and start bringing it over into OpenBSD.

Well, don't use the Linux code, it contains a virus called GPL.
But reading and comparing is good.

Wijnand

Re: flashdist-20050601 for OpenBSD 3.7

[Allie D]

Thanks Chris for all your work on flashdist...it helps me spread the gospel ;)

Tar Restore

[Monah Baki]

Hi all,

I have a laptop that I had to format it, before doing that I tarred everything 
to another computer. Is 
there anyway to use the tar file to restore it to the way it was?
Thanks.

Ipsec problem...

[Romain GAILLEGUE]

Hello 

I think i have a problem with ipsec :)
if someone see something wrong ?

-
#!/bin/ksh
LOCAL=172.31.31.20
REMOTE=172.31.31.1
KEY=93a623705ff3ab06e06b66180c78e998865f31d6

ipsecadm flush

ipsecadm new esp -src $LOCAL  -dst $REMOTE -spi 1001 -enc blf -key $KEY
ipsecadm new esp -src $REMOTE -dst $LOCAL  -spi 1000 -enc blf -key $KEY

ipsecadm flow -proto esp -src $LOCAL  -dst $REMOTE -require -out -addr
$LOCAL/32  $REMOTE/32
ipsecadm flow -proto esp -src $REMOTE -dst $LOCAL  -require -in  -addr
$REMOTE/32 $LOCAL/32

-
ping 172.31.31.1 on 172.31.31.20.. n

-
tcpdump on 172.31.31.1
# tcpdump -qni vr1 esp
tcpdump: listening on vr1, link-type EN10MB
00:58:54.536190 esp 172.31.31.20 > 172.31.31.1 spi 0x1000 seq 16 len
104
00:58:55.567066 esp 172.31.31.20 > 172.31.31.1 spi 0x1000 seq 17 len
104
00:58:56.595142 esp 172.31.31.20 > 172.31.31.1 spi 0x1000 seq 18 len
104
00:58:57.564902 esp 172.31.31.20 > 172.31.31.1 spi 0x1000 seq 19 len
104
00:58:58.586613 esp 172.31.31.20 > 172.31.31.1 spi 0x1000 seq 20 len
104

Thanks !

-- 
Romain GAILLEGUE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Ipsec problem...

[Romain GAILLEGUE]

Le samedi 04 juin 2005 C  01:18 +0200, Romain GAILLEGUE a C)crit :
> Hello 
> 
> I think i have a problem with ipsec :)
> if someone see something wrong ?
> 
> -
> #!/bin/ksh
> LOCAL=172.31.31.20
> REMOTE=172.31.31.1
> KEY=93a623705ff3ab06e06b66180c78e998865f31d6
> 
> ipsecadm flush
> 
> ipsecadm new esp -src $LOCAL  -dst $REMOTE -spi 1001 -enc blf -key $KEY
> ipsecadm new esp -src $REMOTE -dst $LOCAL  -spi 1000 -enc blf -key $KEY
> 
> ipsecadm flow -proto esp -src $LOCAL  -dst $REMOTE -require -out -addr
> $LOCAL/32  $REMOTE/32
> ipsecadm flow -proto esp -src $REMOTE -dst $LOCAL  -require -in  -addr
> $REMOTE/32 $LOCAL/32
> 
> -
> ping 172.31.31.1 on 172.31.31.20.. n
> 
> -
> tcpdump on 172.31.31.1
> # tcpdump -qni vr1 esp
> tcpdump: listening on vr1, link-type EN10MB
> 00:58:54.536190 esp 172.31.31.20 > 172.31.31.1 spi 0x1000 seq 16 len
> 104
> 00:58:55.567066 esp 172.31.31.20 > 172.31.31.1 spi 0x1000 seq 17 len
> 104
> 00:58:56.595142 esp 172.31.31.20 > 172.31.31.1 spi 0x1000 seq 18 len
> 104
> 00:58:57.564902 esp 172.31.31.20 > 172.31.31.1 spi 0x1000 seq 19 len
> 104
> 00:58:58.586613 esp 172.31.31.20 > 172.31.31.1 spi 0x1000 seq 20 len
> 104
> 
> Thanks !

Thanks to Hans-Joerg Hoexer

it's :

ipsecadm flow -proto esp -src $LOCAL -dst $REMOTE -require -out -addr \
$LOCAL/32  $REMOTE/32
ipsecadm flow -proto esp -src $LOCAL -dst $REMOTE -require -in  -addr \
$REMOTE/32 $LOCAL/32


Romain


-- 
Romain GAILLEGUE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: openbsd list fckery

[Steve Shockley]

Michael Shalayeff wrote:

actually 90% of the installer we have is just pushing "next".
everything has most common reasonable defaults.


The biggest problem with the installer that I've seen users have is 
configuring disk slices.  It'd be nice if there were a default disk 
layout, but maybe that just makes new users read the docs.



so if it is really hard for you then perhaps you are just
retarded and need treatment w/ electricity and if that does
not help then perhaps should not use computers...


ECT is generally used for mood disorders, not mental retardation, but 
its usage may still be indicated in this case.

Re: Gigabit Firewall NIC Interrupt Performance Problem

[Sean Knox]

Bill Marquette wrote:

On 6/2/05, Sean Knox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hey Bill-

Is IRQ sharing done in BIOS? I'm using 2 onboard em(4) NICs and a dual
port em(4) on a Supermicro 6023P-8:



This was all done in BIOS on HP DL380's.



The Supermicro BIOS (forgot the brand offhand) doesn't allow for setting 
IRQs manually, but one of the 133mhz slots shares an IRQ with the 
onboard NICs.



em0 at pci3 dev 1 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT DP (82546EB)" rev 0x03: 
irq 12, address: 00:04:23:a7:b4:4c
em1 at pci3 dev 1 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000MT DP (82546EB)" rev 0x03: 
irq 12, address: 00:04:23:a7:b4:4d
em2 at pci3 dev 2 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT DP (82546EB)" rev 0x01: 
irq 12, address: 00:30:48:2c:95:e8
em3 at pci3 dev 2 function 1 "Intel PRO/1000MT DP (82546EB)" rev 0x01: 
irq 12, address: 00:30:48:2c:95:e9


That should help a good deal.





* ensure PCI card is in 133mhz slot (pretty sure it is)


This never hurts :)


...but what does it hurt is installing the NIC in a 66mhz slot. Ouch. 
I'll have to wait until next week to try this fix in the primary 
firewall; I'll report back to the group when that's done. Thanks again.


cheers,
sk

Re: openbsd list fckery

[shanejp]

Quoting Dimitri Georganas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I do like the installer though, I'm serious. Not for it's user
> friendliness, but because
> it works for me. I've seen better ones, I've seen worse.

I'm right in the middle of installing 3.7 via serial port B on a Sun
Ultra 10. I LOVE the OpenBSD installer. Installs from CD in minutes. If
I make a mistake, Ctrl-C and run the install script again. Gorgeous.




This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au

Re: Maximum MAXDSIZ

[Ted Unangst]

On Sat, 28 May 2005, Fernando Braga wrote:

> Looking vmparam.h, I see maximum data size for a process is limited to 1GB.
> 
> As these servers came with 4GB RAM (and I really need this memory),
> I'd like to know if it is possible to raise this limit.

this is like asking what happens when you eat the magic mushroom.  maybe 
you'll like it, maybe you won't, but it's probably going to be weird.

-- 
we used to hate people
now we just make fun of them
it's more effective that way