Re: FreeBSD isn't Free

2010-10-07 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
What does this mean? does it mean there was a mistake?

http://www.listware.net/201010/freebsd-questions/19724-re-like-it-or-not-theo-has-a-point-freebsd-is-shipping-export-restricted-software-in-the-core.html

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Re: FreeBSD isn't Free

2010-10-07 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 01:03:42 -0500 Sam Fourman Jr.
sfour...@gmail.com wrote:

 What does this mean? does it mean there was a mistake?
 
 http://www.listware.net/201010/freebsd-questions/19724-re-like-it-or-not-theo-has-a-point-freebsd-is-shipping-export-restricted-software-in-the-core.html


No mistake. Randy said Theo has a valid point, and he does.

If you ever get the chance to have a discussion with either Theo or
Randy, you should realize two things immediately:

1.) They're really fucking smart, and they've done all their homework.
2.) They're probably *way* ahead of you in the discussion, and they're
impatiently waiting for you to mentally catch up.

jcr

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Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Aaron Lewis
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On 10/07/2010 11:58 AM, Edho P Arief wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
 h...@osvaldobarrera.com.ar wrote:
 I want to make a small desktop application (probably GTK+, since I've
 never done anything in GTK) that shows available wireless networks,
 signal, and a few buttons to connect to each/configure each.

 I don't intend to make a huge daemon like the linux's NetworkManager,
 but, instead, just a simple application you open, connect, and close.
 Done. B No bloat, and definitely ***NO*** requirement for stuff like
 HAL.

 I wanted to get a few pointers before I started:
 1) First of all, I want to be sure no one's already working on
 something like this.

 wicd is as small as network gui I can find in linux. Also I believe
 pc-bsd made their own version of network gui. It probably depends on
 kde or qt though.

 http://wicd.sourceforge.net/

nope , wicd is actually based on gtk  python , also wicd-client for
kde available on kde-apps.org.
( written in qt4 )

Haven't tried though on *bsd's.

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Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Edho P Arief
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Aaron Lewis the.warl0ck.1...@gmail.com wrote:
 nope , wicd is actually based on gtk  python , also wicd-client for
 kde available on kde-apps.org.
 ( written in qt4 )


Sorry, I didn't properly composed the paragraph. I actually mentioned
two network manager gui applications:
- wicd
- whatever default in PC-BSD (which uses qt or kde)



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Re: Can't boot from 05-Oct-2010 snapshot's install48.iso

2010-10-07 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Matthew Dempsky matt...@dempsky.org wrote:

 Some more details would be helpful.  E.g., at least a dmesg from your
 working 4.7 install, and if you could transcribe at least the last few
 lines of dmesg output from booting install48.iso (e.g., did it panic
 or just hang?) that would go a long way.

My 4.7 dmesg:

OpenBSD 4.7-stable (GENERIC.MP) #0: Thu Jul 22 09:31:34 MSD 2010
r...@ao531h.bedova:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery
cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR
real mem  = 1060163584 (1011MB)
avail mem = 1018466304 (971MB)
RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/06/08, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe90b0 (31 
entries)
bios0: vendor Acer version v0.3110 date 10/06/2008
bios0: Acer AO531h
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT HPET APIC MCFG ASF! SLIC BOOT
acpi0: wakeup devices P32_(S4) UHC1(S3) UHC2(S3) UHC3(S3) UHC4(S3) ECHI(S3) 
EXP1(S4) EXP2(S4) EXP3(S4) EXP4(S4) AZAL(S0) MODM(S0)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 132MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 GHz
cpu1: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 4
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 4 (P32_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (EXP1)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP2)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP3)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP4)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 95 degC
acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
acpibtn1 at acpi0: LID0
acpibtn2 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT1 not present
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpivideo0 at acpi0: OVGA
acpivout0 at acpivideo0: CRT1
acpivout1 at acpivideo0: DTV1
acpivout2 at acpivideo0: DFP1
acpivout3 at acpivideo0: LCD_
acpivout4 at acpivideo0: DTV2
acpivout5 at acpivideo0: DFP2
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xec00!
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1596 MHz: speeds: 1600, 1333, 1066, 800 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945GME Host rev 0x03
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945GME Video rev 0x03
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
intagp0 at vga1
agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0x4000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 4 int 16 (irq 11)
drm0 at inteldrm0
Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x02: apic 4 int 
16 (irq 11)
azalia0: codecs: Realtek ALC272
audio0 at azalia0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16 
(irq 255)
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
ale0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Attansic Technology L1E rev 0xb0: AR8113, apic 
4 int 16 (irq 11), address 00:26:9e:00:53:d1
atphy0 at ale0 phy 0: F1 10/100/1000 PHY, rev. 9
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 4 int 18 
(irq 255)
pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
iwn0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel WiFi Link 5150 rev 0x00: apic 4 int 18 
(irq 11), MIMO 1T2R, ABG, address 00:16:eb:0e:7d:62
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 4 int 19 
(irq 255)
pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16 
(irq 11)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 4 int 17 
(irq 11)
uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 4 int 18 
(irq 11)
uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 4 int 19 
(irq 11)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16 
(irq 11)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe2
pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801GBM LPC rev 0x02: PM disabled
pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801GB IDE rev 0x02: DMA, channel 0 
configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility
pciide0: channel 0 disabled (no drives)
pciide0: channel 1 ignored (disabled)
ahci0 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801GBM AHCI rev 0x02: apic 4 int 17 
(irq 11), AHCI 1.1
scsibus0 at ahci0: 32 targets
sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: ATA, ST9160310AS, 0303 SCSI3 0/direct fixed
sd0: 152627MB, 512 bytes/sec, 312581808 sec total
ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 

Re: ACPI on ASUS Eee PC 1201pn with 4.8

2010-10-07 Thread Guillaume Dualé
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 06:02:10 +0200, Tomas Bodzar
tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:
 4.8 is closed for a quite long time. Support can start only in current
 so 4.9 is nearest possible release which will support your HW ;-)
Ho ok ^^
So, what must I do ? Wait that 4.8 go out officially and try with
-current 4.9 when it will be available ?
Thanks,
Guillaume.

 
 2010/10/7 Guillaume DualC) g.du...@otasc.org:
 On 01/10/2010 17:27, Guillaume Duali wrote:

 Hi,
 i would like to explain a bug :
 On my laptop, I install the latest iso file downloaded here :
 ftp://ftp.fr.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/i386/install48.iso

 And with it, the acpi is bugged.
 If I do a classic boot, the machine shutdown after 10 seconds saying :
 Oct B 1 16:38:15 laptop /bsd: acpitz0: Critical temperature 255C
 (5282K), shutting down

 If I do a boot disabling the acpi (thanks to pea), then my machine work
 fine, but the battery is not correctly managed :
 # apm
 Battery state: unknown, 0% remaining, 0 minutes life estimate
 A/C adapter state: not known
 Performance adjustment mode: manual (1663 MHz)

 If I start apmd -A, nothing appends and in /var/log/message, I can see :
 Oct B 1 17:23:46 laptop apmd: cannot open device file `/dev/apmctl':
 Operation not supported by device
 I suppose that is due to acpi is disabled.

 My version of OpenBSD is :
 Oct B 1 16:44:30 laptop /bsd: OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC.MP) #402: Wed
 Sep 29 23:51:39 MDT 2010

 I made a acpidump : http://otasc.org/openbsd/acpidump.tgz

 Here is my /var/log/messages file : http://otasc.org/openbsd/messages

 Here is my (strange) dmesg :
 # dmesg
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Re: Nobreak

2010-10-07 Thread Raimo Niskanen
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 11:36:09PM -0300, R0me0 *** wrote:
 Yeap, I known this website
 very good .
 The problem was the usb model
 I tested with sms manager III serial and it works,
 but I'm thinking to buy APC UPS, have many models,
 Thanks to all for feedback

This may be old info but APC Smart-UPS SC450 in combination
with nut-2.2.2p1 on OpenBSD 4.5 works just fine.

I have had problems with the USB models. It seems
NUT (at least this old one) for APC has a not
quite stable USB serial driver. The plain serial
driver (apcsmart) is solid (attached to /dev/cua00).

 
 :)
 
 Regards
 
 2010/10/6 Leonardo Rodrigues leonardov...@gmail.com
 
  This link could help you:
 
  https://calomel.org/nut_ups.html
 
  On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 3:49 AM, SJP Lists sjp.li...@flashbsd.net wrote:
   On 2 October 2010 02:16, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
   * Gregory Edigarov g...@bestnet.kharkov.ua [2010-09-30 16:13]:
   nut is in ports, though I would recomend to build it by hands.
  
   sigh. cut the crap. the package is fine. and handbuilding is stupid,
   pretty much without exceptions.
  
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   Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting
  
   I don't know about nut, but I have come across one package where I'd
   prefer to build as a port.  arpwatch, destination email address is
   hard coded in.  Unless I missed something obvious.
  
  
   Shane

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Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Guillaume Dualé
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 14:10:53 +0700, Edho P Arief edhopr...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Aaron Lewis
 the.warl0ck.1...@gmail.com wrote:
 nope , wicd is actually based on gtk  python , also wicd-client for
 kde available on kde-apps.org.
 ( written in qt4 )

 
 Sorry, I didn't properly composed the paragraph. I actually mentioned
 two network manager gui applications:
 - wicd
 - whatever default in PC-BSD (which uses qt or kde)

Hi there,
I planed to start a tool like that.
It's funny because I think to make this in PyGTK 2 ;)

In my opinion wicd is only for Linux use, and it's better to start a
new project for OpenBSD :
 1 - Learn
 2 - Put this project in a real license :) (BSD of course, without ads)

Question : If the project become stable, it'll be possible to integrate
the officials OpenBSD repository (ports and packages) ?

Regards,
Guillaume.



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread David Coppa
2010/10/7 Guillaume Duali g.du...@otasc.org:

 Hi there,
 I planed to start a tool like that.
 It's funny because I think to make this in PyGTK 2 ;)

 In my opinion wicd is only for Linux use, and it's better to start a
 new project for OpenBSD :
  1 - Learn
  2 - Put this project in a real license :) (BSD of course, without ads)

 Question : If the project become stable, it'll be possible to integrate
 the officials OpenBSD repository (ports and packages) ?

Of course. Start coding this tool and we'll see ;)

ciao,
david



Re: ACPI on ASUS Eee PC 1201pn with 4.8

2010-10-07 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 03:44:38AM +0200, Guillaume Duali wrote:
 On 01/10/2010 17:27, Guillaume Duali wrote:
 On my laptop, I install the latest iso file downloaded here :
 ftp://ftp.fr.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/i386/install48.iso
 
 And with it, the acpi is bugged.
 If I do a classic boot, the machine shutdown after 10 seconds saying :
 Oct  1 16:38:15 laptop /bsd: acpitz0: Critical temperature 255C
 (5282K), shutting down
 
 If I do a boot disabling the acpi (thanks to pea), then my machine work
 fine, but the battery is not correctly managed :
 # apm
 Battery state: unknown, 0% remaining, 0 minutes life estimate
 A/C adapter state: not known
 Performance adjustment mode: manual (1663 MHz)
 
 If I start apmd -A, nothing appends and in /var/log/message, I
 can see :
 Oct  1 17:23:46 laptop apmd: cannot open device file `/dev/apmctl':
 Operation not supported by device
 I suppose that is due to acpi is disabled.
 
 My version of OpenBSD is :
 Oct  1 16:44:30 laptop /bsd: OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC.MP) #402: Wed
 Sep 29 23:51:39 MDT 2010
 
 I made a acpidump : http://otasc.org/openbsd/acpidump.tgz
 
 Here is my /var/log/messages file : http://otasc.org/openbsd/messages
 
 Here is my (strange) dmesg :
 # dmesg
garbage

On some machines, the dmesg buffer is not cleared at boot, which makes
it possible to see (part of) the dmesg from the previous boot - very
useful if the previous boot crashed.

In this case, OpenBSD mistakenly believes your dmesg buffer to be valid.
Don't worry about it.

 OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC.MP) #402: Wed Sep 29 23:51:39 MDT 2010
 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
 cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N450 @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class)
 1.67 GHz
 cpu0:
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,A
 
 CPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR
 
 ,PDCM,MOVBE
 real mem  = 2146594816 (2047MB)
 avail mem = 2101448704 (2004MB)
 User Kernel Config
 UKC disable acpi
 473 acpi0 disabled
 UKC quit
 Continuing...
 mainbus0 at root
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 04/09/10, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010,
 SMBIOS rev. 2.6 @ 0xf0740 (30 entries)
 bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 0401 date 04/09/2010
 bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. 1201PN
 acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured
...
 root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b
 
 Note : With OpenBSD 4.7, the apm work fine execpt the suspend to ram is
 not working.

Well, suspend not working is to be expected with 4.7.

 Thanks a lot for your help :)
 And tell me if you want some other tracs or tests.

 Hi there,
 someone have a idea ?
 I can open an SSH connexion to my laptop for a dev if you want to
 try something...
 4.8 is pretty to go out, so it will be nice if we can say Yeah ASUS
 EEe 1201pn works with ! :-)

I have no idea how to solve this, but note that you can just disable
acpitz instead of acpi - you probably won't be able to get CPU
temperature from hw.sensors and I don't know if the machine still shuts
down if it gets too hot, but you can still suspend etc.

Joachim

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http://www.joachimschipper.nl/



Re: ACPI on ASUS Eee PC 1201pn with 4.8

2010-10-07 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 10:27:43AM +0200, Guillaume Duali wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 06:02:10 +0200, Tomas Bodzar
 tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:
  4.8 is closed for a quite long time. Support can start only in current
  so 4.9 is nearest possible release which will support your HW ;-)
 Ho ok ^^
 So, what must I do ? Wait that 4.8 go out officially and try with
 -current 4.9 when it will be available ?

-current, as you can get from CVS today, is already past 4.8 and will
become 4.9 at some point.

Joachim

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http://www.joachimschipper.nl/



Re: ACPI on ASUS Eee PC 1201pn with 4.8

2010-10-07 Thread Guillaume Dualé
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 11:17:36 +0200, Joachim Schipper
joac...@joachimschipper.nl wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 10:27:43AM +0200, Guillaume Duali wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 06:02:10 +0200, Tomas Bodzar
 tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:
  4.8 is closed for a quite long time. Support can start only in current
  so 4.9 is nearest possible release which will support your HW ;-)
 Ho ok ^^
 So, what must I do ? Wait that 4.8 go out officially and try with
 -current 4.9 when it will be available ?
 
 -current, as you can get from CVS today, is already past 4.8 and will
 become 4.9 at some point.
 
   Joachim

Hi Joachim,
thanks for your help and thanks for your previous message.
I will try it in some week, I must made a lot of backup before ^^
Guillaume.



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
2010/10/7 Martin PelikC!n martin.peli...@gmail.com:
 2010/10/7, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera h...@osvaldobarrera.com.ar:
 I don't intend to make a huge daemon like the linux's NetworkManager,
 but, instead, just a simple application you open, connect, and close.
 Done. B No bloat, and definitely ***NO*** requirement for stuff like
 HAL.

 Amen.

 I wanted to get a few pointers before I started:
 1) First of all, I want to be sure no one's already working on
 something like this.

 I occasionaly develop one for ncurses. But don't feel any special need
 for it, pfctl mostly works just fine. Oh, and it focuses more on pf(4)
 manupulation rather than wireless (but it's modular).

 2) I initially considered just parsing the output of ifconfig .
 This does seem rather hackish, but would get the job done fast and can
 still be very maintainable code. B However, what's the proper
 alternative (just a few pointer to know what to start reading will do)
 to do this sort of this.

 man getifaddrs
 man style
 Please, do NOT parse ifconfig output and invest the work into proper C
 code. You'll hopefully learn some stuff at least and you have higher
 chance you won't write crap. Many people have been there. Just don't.

 --
 Martin Pelikan


Thanks, using man getifaddrs, I've managed to find some pretty
valuable information (and will probably find most of what I need with
enough time).
Gotta love OpenBSD's man documentation.

Again, thanks :-)


@Edho:
I don't think wicd would work.  It uses wpa_supplicant, and some other
linux-only stuff as backend.
I haven't been able to find much on PCBSD's doc, it seems their
standards for documentation are quite low, for example, see:
http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PC-BSD_FAQS#Networking
or
http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/Wireless_Settings

From what I've seen on just screenshots, It's probably QT based.  But
I'll download it tonight and take a look, there might be some useful
parts, at least for studying.

@Guillaume:
I was considering Python, but since I need to call system functions,
it's either going to be C or Python calling a C module, the latter
being more likely, since I could learn more, and still use python for
the front-end.
Tell me if you're interested on doing something, we might be able to
help each other :)


--
Hugo Osvaldo Barrera



Re: RAID support

2010-10-07 Thread g . duale
 Hello,

 Is soft RAID currently a work in progress, I remember some important
 features
 were still added release after release recently. Will it be the case for
 forthcoming 4.8 ?

 Regards

 Jean-Frangois


Hi,
is already working I guess :
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=softraidsektion=4
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bioctlsektion=8



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread David Coppa
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
h...@osvaldobarrera.com.ar wrote:

 I haven't been able to find much on PCBSD's doc, it seems their
 standards for documentation are quite low, for example, see:
 http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PC-BSD_FAQS#Networking
 or
 http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/Wireless_Settings

 From what I've seen on just screenshots, It's probably QT based.  But
 I'll download it tonight and take a look, there might be some useful
 parts, at least for studying.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/net/pcbsd-netmanager/

It uses kde4 libraries. So, it's a no way for now...

ciao,
david



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread g . duale
 2010/10/7 Martin PelikC!n martin.peli...@gmail.com:
 2010/10/7, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera h...@osvaldobarrera.com.ar:
 I don't intend to make a huge daemon like the linux's NetworkManager,
 but, instead, just a simple application you open, connect, and close.
 Done. B No bloat, and definitely ***NO*** requirement for stuff like
 HAL.

 Amen.

 I wanted to get a few pointers before I started:
 1) First of all, I want to be sure no one's already working on
 something like this.

 I occasionaly develop one for ncurses. But don't feel any special need
 for it, pfctl mostly works just fine. Oh, and it focuses more on pf(4)
 manupulation rather than wireless (but it's modular).

 2) I initially considered just parsing the output of ifconfig .
 This does seem rather hackish, but would get the job done fast and can
 still be very maintainable code. B However, what's the proper
 alternative (just a few pointer to know what to start reading will do)
 to do this sort of this.

 man getifaddrs
 man style
 Please, do NOT parse ifconfig output and invest the work into proper C
 code. You'll hopefully learn some stuff at least and you have higher
 chance you won't write crap. Many people have been there. Just don't.

 --
 Martin Pelikan


 Thanks, using man getifaddrs, I've managed to find some pretty
 valuable information (and will probably find most of what I need with
 enough time).
 Gotta love OpenBSD's man documentation.

 Again, thanks :-)


 @Edho:
 I don't think wicd would work.  It uses wpa_supplicant, and some other
 linux-only stuff as backend.
 I haven't been able to find much on PCBSD's doc, it seems their
 standards for documentation are quite low, for example, see:
 http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PC-BSD_FAQS#Networking
 or
 http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/Wireless_Settings

 From what I've seen on just screenshots, It's probably QT based.  But
 I'll download it tonight and take a look, there might be some useful
 parts, at least for studying.

 @Guillaume:
 I was considering Python, but since I need to call system functions,
 it's either going to be C or Python calling a C module, the latter
 being more likely, since I could learn more, and still use python for
 the front-end.
 Tell me if you're interested on doing something, we might be able to
 help each other :)

Hi Hugo,
If I understand you think to combine C et Python ?
Do you think is good to code the tool in C in shell only interface,
and add the graphical front-end in Python.
In this case Python will call on each clik the C binary with parameter,
like :
 ./assistant --list-wireless-network

It's a good idea


 --
 Hugo Osvaldo Barrera



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread g . duale
 2010/10/7 Martin PelikC!n martin.peli...@gmail.com:
 2010/10/7, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera h...@osvaldobarrera.com.ar:
 I don't intend to make a huge daemon like the linux's NetworkManager,
 but, instead, just a simple application you open, connect, and close.
 Done. B No bloat, and definitely ***NO*** requirement for stuff like
 HAL.

 Amen.

 I wanted to get a few pointers before I started:
 1) First of all, I want to be sure no one's already working on
 something like this.

 I occasionaly develop one for ncurses. But don't feel any special need
 for it, pfctl mostly works just fine. Oh, and it focuses more on pf(4)
 manupulation rather than wireless (but it's modular).

 2) I initially considered just parsing the output of ifconfig .
 This does seem rather hackish, but would get the job done fast and can
 still be very maintainable code. B However, what's the proper
 alternative (just a few pointer to know what to start reading will do)
 to do this sort of this.

 man getifaddrs
 man style
 Please, do NOT parse ifconfig output and invest the work into proper C
 code. You'll hopefully learn some stuff at least and you have higher
 chance you won't write crap. Many people have been there. Just don't.

 --
 Martin Pelikan


 Thanks, using man getifaddrs, I've managed to find some pretty
 valuable information (and will probably find most of what I need with
 enough time).
 Gotta love OpenBSD's man documentation.

 Again, thanks :-)


 @Edho:
 I don't think wicd would work.  It uses wpa_supplicant, and some other
 linux-only stuff as backend.
 I haven't been able to find much on PCBSD's doc, it seems their
 standards for documentation are quite low, for example, see:
 http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PC-BSD_FAQS#Networking
 or
 http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/Wireless_Settings

 From what I've seen on just screenshots, It's probably QT based.  But
 I'll download it tonight and take a look, there might be some useful
 parts, at least for studying.

 @Guillaume:
 I was considering Python, but since I need to call system functions,
 it's either going to be C or Python calling a C module, the latter
 being more likely, since I could learn more, and still use python for
 the front-end.
 Tell me if you're interested on doing something, we might be able to
 help each other :)

Hi Hugo,
If I understand you think to combine C and Python ?
Do you think is good to code the tool in C, with only shell interface,
and add the graphical front-end in Python ?
In this case Python will call on each click the C binary with parameter,
like :
 ./assistant --list-wireless-network

It's a good idea [G! keyboard shortcut :p]
So, it's a good idea if we work together on this project if you are ok ?

Regards,
Guillaume.




 --
 Hugo Osvaldo Barrera



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 01:34:50PM +0200, g.du...@otasc.org wrote:
 If I understand you think to combine C and Python ?
 Do you think is good to code the tool in C, with only shell interface,
 and add the graphical front-end in Python ?
 In this case Python will call on each click the C binary with parameter,
 like :
  ./assistant --list-wireless-network
 
 It's a good idea [G! keyboard shortcut :p]
 So, it's a good idea if we work together on this project if you are ok ?

You *are* aware that you can combine Python and C code fairly easily,
right? There is no real need to shell out for every command...

Joachim

-- 
TFMotD: perlartistic (1) - the Perl Artistic License
http://www.joachimschipper.nl/



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
Why not make a curses GUI ? I find it much more useful than gtk/qt (IMHO).



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Guillaume Dualé
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 14:20:31 +0200, Joachim Schipper
joac...@joachimschipper.nl wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 01:34:50PM +0200, g.du...@otasc.org wrote:
 If I understand you think to combine C and Python ?
 Do you think is good to code the tool in C, with only shell interface,
 and add the graphical front-end in Python ?
 In this case Python will call on each click the C binary with parameter,
 like :
  ./assistant --list-wireless-network

 It's a good idea [G! keyboard shortcut :p]
 So, it's a good idea if we work together on this project if you are ok ?
 
 You *are* aware that you can combine Python and C code fairly easily,
 right? There is no real need to shell out for every command...
 
   Joachim
Hi,
I didn't know it.
I will learn :)
If you have some interesting links about it, I appreciate.
Thanks,
Guillaume.



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Guillaume Dualé
On Thu, 07 Oct 2010 14:35:43 +0200, Guillaume DualC) g.du...@otasc.org
wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 14:20:31 +0200, Joachim Schipper
 joac...@joachimschipper.nl wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 01:34:50PM +0200, g.du...@otasc.org wrote:
 If I understand you think to combine C and Python ?
 Do you think is good to code the tool in C, with only shell interface,
 and add the graphical front-end in Python ?
 In this case Python will call on each click the C binary with parameter,
 like :
  ./assistant --list-wireless-network

 It's a good idea [G! keyboard shortcut :p]
 So, it's a good idea if we work together on this project if you are ok ?

 You *are* aware that you can combine Python and C code fairly easily,
 right? There is no real need to shell out for every command...

  Joachim
 Hi,
 I didn't know it.
 I will learn :)
 If you have some interesting links about it, I appreciate.
 Thanks,
 Guillaume.

Interesting :)
http://docs.python.org/extending/index.html#extending-index



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Guillaume Dualé
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 09:33:44 -0300, Christiano F. Haesbaert
haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:
 Why not make a curses GUI ? I find it much more useful than gtk/qt (IMHO).

In my opinion, the aim of this project is to provide a graphical tool,
which can be inserted in some WM like XFCE, etc.
Guillaume.



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Luis Useche
I would also prefer a console based approach. I think it is not a good idea
to do it for one single windows manager.

Anyway, Arch Linux has a very nice console based network connection manager
in case anybody is looking for ideas:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netcfg

Luis.

2010/10/7 Guillaume Duali g.du...@otasc.org

 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 09:33:44 -0300, Christiano F. Haesbaert
 haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:
  Why not make a curses GUI ? I find it much more useful than gtk/qt
 (IMHO).

 In my opinion, the aim of this project is to provide a graphical tool,
 which can be inserted in some WM like XFCE, etc.
 Guillaume.



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Gonzalo L. R.
Agree, less deps, more happy people.

El 10/07/10 09:33, Christiano F. Haesbaert escribis:
 Why not make a curses GUI ? I find it much more useful than gtk/qt (IMHO).
 

-- 
No, I don't have Facefuck



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 08:27,  g.du...@otasc.org wrote:
 2010/10/7 Martin PelikC!n martin.peli...@gmail.com:
 2010/10/7, Hugo Osvaldo Barrera h...@osvaldobarrera.com.ar:
 I don't intend to make a huge daemon like the linux's NetworkManager,
 but, instead, just a simple application you open, connect, and close.
 Done. B No bloat, and definitely ***NO*** requirement for stuff like
 HAL.

 Amen.

 I wanted to get a few pointers before I started:
 1) First of all, I want to be sure no one's already working on
 something like this.

 I occasionaly develop one for ncurses. But don't feel any special need
 for it, pfctl mostly works just fine. Oh, and it focuses more on pf(4)
 manupulation rather than wireless (but it's modular).

 2) I initially considered just parsing the output of ifconfig .
 This does seem rather hackish, but would get the job done fast and can
 still be very maintainable code. B However, what's the proper
 alternative (just a few pointer to know what to start reading will do)
 to do this sort of this.

 man getifaddrs
 man style
 Please, do NOT parse ifconfig output and invest the work into proper C
 code. You'll hopefully learn some stuff at least and you have higher
 chance you won't write crap. Many people have been there. Just don't.

 --
 Martin Pelikan


 Thanks, using man getifaddrs, I've managed to find some pretty
 valuable information (and will probably find most of what I need with
 enough time).
 Gotta love OpenBSD's man documentation.

 Again, thanks :-)


 @Edho:
 I don't think wicd would work. B It uses wpa_supplicant, and some other
 linux-only stuff as backend.
 I haven't been able to find much on PCBSD's doc, it seems their
 standards for documentation are quite low, for example, see:
 http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/PC-BSD_FAQS#Networking
 or
 http://wiki.pcbsd.org/index.php/Wireless_Settings

 From what I've seen on just screenshots, It's probably QT based. B But
 I'll download it tonight and take a look, there might be some useful
 parts, at least for studying.

 @Guillaume:
 I was considering Python, but since I need to call system functions,
 it's either going to be C or Python calling a C module, the latter
 being more likely, since I could learn more, and still use python for
 the front-end.
 Tell me if you're interested on doing something, we might be able to
 help each other :)

 Hi Hugo,
 If I understand you think to combine C et Python ?
 Do you think is good to code the tool in C in shell only interface,
 and add the graphical front-end in Python.
 In this case Python will call on each clik the C binary with parameter,
 like :
 B ./assistant --list-wireless-network

 It's a good idea

It sounds like going back to parsing a string in order to obtain the
info.  Only that instead of parsing ifconfig, it's some other
application that wraps system calls.  Calling C code from python seems
rather easy, it's the C part that might take some time (reading).

If you'd like for us to collaborate on this, e-mail me.  The same goes
for anyone else who might be interested :-)

@david:
Oh, ok, a shame really.
A few KDE apps would be SO good if they just weren't KDE apps.



 --
 Hugo Osvaldo Barrera








--
Hugo Osvaldo Barrera



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 09:20, Joachim Schipper
joac...@joachimschipper.nl wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 01:34:50PM +0200, g.du...@otasc.org wrote:
 If I understand you think to combine C and Python ?
 Do you think is good to code the tool in C, with only shell interface,
 and add the graphical front-end in Python ?
 In this case Python will call on each click the C binary with parameter,
 like :
 B ./assistant --list-wireless-network

 It's a good idea [G! keyboard shortcut :p]
 So, it's a good idea if we work together on this project if you are ok ?

 You *are* aware that you can combine Python and C code fairly easily,
 right? There is no real need to shell out for every command...

 B  B  B  B  B  B  B  B Joachim

 --
 TFMotD: perlartistic (1) - the Perl Artistic License
 http://www.joachimschipper.nl/



Yes, this was my initial idea :-)

http://docs.python.org/extending/extending.html


--
Hugo Osvaldo Barrera



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Brad Tilley
Guillaume DualC) wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 09:33:44 -0300, Christiano F. Haesbaert
 haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:
 Why not make a curses GUI ? I find it much more useful than gtk/qt (IMHO).
 
 In my opinion, the aim of this project is to provide a graphical tool,
 which can be inserted in some WM like XFCE, etc.
 Guillaume.

FLTK is in ports. It creates small, fast and portable standalone GUIs.
I've used it to make a few simple GUI frontends. I like it better than
Python/WxWidgets, or Python/QT, GTK, etc.

Brad



Re: ldapd.conf.5 typo

2010-10-07 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 02:01:39AM +0200, Luca Corti wrote:
 --- usr.sbin/ldapd/ldapd.conf.5 Fri Sep 10 23:21:15 2010
 +++ usr.sbin/ldapd/ldapd.conf.5 Thu Oct  7 01:56:27 2010
 @@ -147,7 +147,7 @@
  }
  .Ed
  .Pp
 -When matching requests aginst namespace suffixes, the most specific
 +When matching requests against namespace suffixes, the most specific
  match is used.
  Each namespace stores data in a separate database file.
  .Pp

fixed, thanks.
jmc



Re: Netbook for OpenBSD?

2010-10-07 Thread Mikle Krutov
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 09:07:07PM -0400, Brad Tilley wrote:
 Most places have demos out for customers to test. So, install OpenBSD
 -current to a USB stick, then go to Office Max or Best Buy or someplace
 similar and boot the Netbooks from the USB stick to see which has the
 best supported hardware. Be sure to type on the keyboard too, make sure
 it fits your hands.
 
 man the wireless drivers to see a list of supported USB 802.11 cards.
 
 Brad
I live in alternative reality called Russia, where most of electronics
shops will not allow you to plug your usb stick into the notebook before
buying it. :)


Thanks for the replies everyone!

-- 

Old mercenaries never die. They go to hell and regroup.

With best regards, Krutov Mikle, Bercut ltd. Technical Support department



Re: ACPI on ASUS Eee PC 1201pn with 4.8

2010-10-07 Thread Guillaume Dualé
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 15:23:18 +0200, Tomas Bodzar
tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you are not comfortable with -current then it's better to start
 with snapshot as you can avoid compilation, you will have binary
 upgrades of OS and packages and so on
 
 2010/10/7 Guillaume DualC) g.du...@otasc.org:
 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 11:17:36 +0200, Joachim Schipper
 joac...@joachimschipper.nl wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 10:27:43AM +0200, Guillaume Duali wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 06:02:10 +0200, Tomas Bodzar
 tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:
  4.8 is closed for a quite long time. Support can start only in current
  so 4.9 is nearest possible release which will support your HW ;-)
 Ho ok ^^
 So, what must I do ? Wait that 4.8 go out officially and try with
 -current 4.9 when it will be available ?

 -current, as you can get from CVS today, is already past 4.8 and will
 become 4.9 at some point.

 B  B  B  B  B  B  B  Joachim

 Hi Joachim,
 thanks for your help and thanks for your previous message.
 I will try it in some week, I must made a lot of backup before ^^
 Guillaume.


Yes Tomas,
I tried with it last time :
http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/i386/install48.iso
Are you talking about it, isn't it ?



Re: Netbook for OpenBSD?

2010-10-07 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Mikle Krutov nekoexmach...@gmail.com wrote:

 I live in alternative reality called Russia, where most of electronics
 shops will not allow you to plug your usb stick into the notebook before
 buying it. :)

Where do You live exactly? If You impress the stuff enough they will give Your
USB stick a try...

At least this is my experience with Your Digital and alike.

So if You're in Moscow, mail me and I could name a couple of places I had a
good experience with.

--
Dmitrij D. Czarkoff



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Jona Joachim
On 2010-10-07, Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:
 Why not make a curses GUI ? I find it much more useful than gtk/qt (IMHO).

What would be really nice IMHO is to expose an API that gives access to
ifconfig functionality so everybody could easily write their own UI.
Basically to to write your GUI you need to rewrite part of ifconfig.
Also I always wondered whether it is technically possible to scan for
APs without losing your connection to your current AP, that would be
very handy to implement transparent roaming.

Best regards,
Jona

-- 
Worse is better
Richard P. Gabriel



can you track port updates with cvs diff

2010-10-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Alright, everyone

I came across How to track port updates in stable in the mailing list
archives.

http://openports.se looks cool but I can't find the stable branch and
the http://www.openbsd.org/pkg-stable.html seems to have stopped at 4.1.

Up untill now I've simply updated a current and stable ports tree.

I was wondering if there was a faster way (no download) along the lines
of.

/usr/bin/cvs -n -d server:/cvs/openbsd/ports/mail/dovecot diff
-r -rOPENBSD_4_7 distinfo

Or if anyone knows of any new sites or ways. I'm quite happy with simply
updating the ports trees but thought I could use it to help decide
whether to use current or stable on a certain system and when to update
my trees.

Thanks,
Kc



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Martin Pelikán
2010/10/7, Jona Joachim j...@hcl-club.lu:
 On 2010-10-07, Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:
 Why not make a curses GUI ? I find it much more useful than gtk/qt (IMHO).

 What would be really nice IMHO is to expose an API that gives access to
 ifconfig functionality so everybody could easily write their own UI.

That API is exposed in getifaddrs(3). If you've read the whole thread...

 Basically to to write your GUI you need to rewrite part of ifconfig.

Basically that is by definition. ifconfig is just another kind of GUI, see? :-)

 Also I always wondered whether it is technically possible to scan for
 APs without losing your connection to your current AP, that would be
 very handy to implement transparent roaming.

AFAIK it's not, but one thread could do scanning while another thread
could handle user input (like WPA passphrase)

I don't see why do so many people want to use Python for this. Its
advantages are obvious in complex software with lots of code, but why
use it for such a simple and low-level tool? I mean, why don't you use
mono then? I'm pretty sure ioctl() looks similar in all of them...
GTK/Qt seems like a huge overkill too. Look at its size and look at
the benefits from it. Round buttons? Is that what you want? A pop-down
new network found window from a corner? Just imagine running PyQt on
a Soekris.

I'll try to bring myself to post my unfinished curses version. The
problem is I don't understand curses enough. Parts of it are too
complex and some important parts are missing or malfunctional across
multiple systems. But from a simple and easy-to-use point of view,
it seems the smallest evil.

My app loads bunch of .so's, which create options in left menu (like
in Mikrotik Winbox) and if you press the option, a function from that
library gets called and gets control over the whole window (and does
its stuff). One for ifaces+addresses, one for pf tables and one for pf
anchors so far. Any other ideas?

-- 
Martin Pelikan



Connecting to Oracle DB from OpenBSD

2010-10-07 Thread Fred Crowson
Hi misc@

Can any one share any wisdom on connecting to an Oracle DB from OpenBSD?

Thanks

Fred



Re: Connecting to Oracle DB from OpenBSD

2010-10-07 Thread Adam M. Dutko
 Can any one share any wisdom on connecting to an Oracle DB from OpenBSD?


The above is a rather nebulous question...are you doing this from a program
and if so, in what language?



Re: Connecting to Oracle DB from OpenBSD

2010-10-07 Thread James Records
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Fred Crowson fred.crow...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi misc@

 Can any one share any wisdom on connecting to an Oracle DB from OpenBSD?

 Thanks

 Fred

 First thing I would try is a hub or a switch.

j



Re: RAID support

2010-10-07 Thread Jean-Francois
Le Thursday 07 October 2010 13:22:01, g.du...@otasc.org a icrit :
  Hello,
 
  Is soft RAID currently a work in progress, I remember some important
  features
  were still added release after release recently. Will it be the case for
  forthcoming 4.8 ?
 
  Regards
 
  Jean-Frangois

 Hi,
 is already working I guess :
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=softraidsektion=4
 http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bioctlsektion=8

Why raidctl and bioctl ? What differences, why both are here ?

Regards



Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
2010/10/7 Martin PelikC!n martin.peli...@gmail.com:
 2010/10/7, Jona Joachim j...@hcl-club.lu:
 On 2010-10-07, Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:
 Why not make a curses GUI ? I find it much more useful than gtk/qt
(IMHO).

 What would be really nice IMHO is to expose an API that gives access to
 ifconfig functionality so everybody could easily write their own UI.

 That API is exposed in getifaddrs(3). If you've read the whole thread...

 Basically to to write your GUI you need to rewrite part of ifconfig.

 Basically that is by definition. ifconfig is just another kind of GUI, see?
:-)

 Also I always wondered whether it is technically possible to scan for
 APs without losing your connection to your current AP, that would be
 very handy to implement transparent roaming.

 AFAIK it's not, but one thread could do scanning while another thread
 could handle user input (like WPA passphrase)

 I don't see why do so many people want to use Python for this. Its
 advantages are obvious in complex software with lots of code, but why
 use it for such a simple and low-level tool? I mean, why don't you use
 mono then? I'm pretty sure ioctl() looks similar in all of them...
 GTK/Qt seems like a huge overkill too. Look at its size and look at
 the benefits from it. Round buttons? Is that what you want? A pop-down
 new network found window from a corner? Just imagine running PyQt on
 a Soekris.

 I'll try to bring myself to post my unfinished curses version. The
 problem is I don't understand curses enough. Parts of it are too
 complex and some important parts are missing or malfunctional across
 multiple systems. But from a simple and easy-to-use point of view,
 it seems the smallest evil.

 My app loads bunch of .so's, which create options in left menu (like
 in Mikrotik Winbox) and if you press the option, a function from that
 library gets called and gets control over the whole window (and does
 its stuff). One for ifaces+addresses, one for pf tables and one for pf
 anchors so far. Any other ideas?

 --
 Martin Pelikan



What would you suggest for a GUI?  I mean, one that runs as an X application.
I don't intend to add any tray notification or anything like that, anyway.

To be honest, the reason I picked python is that I've more experience
with python than I do with C/C++, so I can produce better quality code
in less time.
I'd do the C module to load into python because I don't think python
can make system function calls.

Anyway, how close are you to finishing your curses UI?  A great deal
of code might be re-usable for an X GUI, if you don't mind :-)



As for what others said, I DID say I intend to create a C module to be
called from python to use from my python UI.  This would then be
re-usabe for creating another UI, a text-mode UI, and anything someone
would want.


--
Hugo Osvaldo Barrera

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/\ B www.asciiribbon.org B  - against proprietary attachments



Re: Connecting to Oracle DB from OpenBSD

2010-10-07 Thread Jim Razmus
* Fred Crowson fred.crow...@gmail.com [101007 12:12]:
 Hi misc@
 
 Can any one share any wisdom on connecting to an Oracle DB from OpenBSD?
 
 Thanks
 
 Fred
 

Typically, applications leverage the Oracle client libraries to connect
to the database.  Oracle does not provide these libraries for OpenBSD.

A couple options:

Perl DBI Proxy
Linux Oracle client running under emulation
Perhaps ODBC (however I believe this needs the Oracle client too)

I have used the Perl DBI Proxy option successfully.  The caveat is
increased complexity since you need the proxy running on a host with the
Oracle client.  Just more parts to break/manage.

One other thought, change databases to Postgresql, MySQL, or SQL Server
which all have client software in the ports tree.

Best regards,
jim@



Re: RAID support

2010-10-07 Thread Henning Brauer
* Jean-Francois jfsimon1...@gmail.com [2010-10-07 19:44]:
 Why raidctl and bioctl ? What differences, why both are here ?

raidframe and thus raidctl will eventually go. softraid is the future.

-- 
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BS Web Services, http://bsws.de
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Re: Connecting to Oracle DB from OpenBSD

2010-10-07 Thread Fred Crowson
On 7 October 2010 18:42, Jim Razmus j...@bonetruck.org wrote:

 Typically, applications leverage the Oracle client libraries to connect
 to the database.  Oracle does not provide these libraries for OpenBSD.

 A couple options:

 Perl DBI Proxy
 Linux Oracle client running under emulation
 Perhaps ODBC (however I believe this needs the Oracle client too)

 I have used the Perl DBI Proxy option successfully.  The caveat is
 increased complexity since you need the proxy running on a host with the
 Oracle client.  Just more parts to break/manage.

 One other thought, change databases to Postgresql, MySQL, or SQL Server
 which all have client software in the ports tree.

 Best regards,
 jim@


Hi,

Thanks for all the suggestions,  long-term I would love to move the DB
to Postgresql, but currently that is highly unlikely.

I was thinking that Linux emulation might be the way to go, but I'll
give the Perl DBI proxy a go, I agree that it's added complexity, but
that is marginally preferable to running a Linux/Apache2/PHP/Oracle
development server :~)

thanks for all the suggestions,

Fred



Re: OpenBSD Vim Programming FAQ

2010-10-07 Thread Alex Vladimirovich

 I've decided to write Vim Programming FAQ.

I'm not breaking here to make any holy war of text
editors, but i'm *very* interesting did or will someone
work on similar guide for Emacs?



 OpenBSD and nvi
quote: vim is replacing nvi, since nvi does not have a pure BSD 
license, and vim also works better.


Didn't that happen prior to 2.0 release? :)

 OpenBSD and mg
quote from man page: editor for people who can't (or don't want to)
run emacs for one reason or another.

This is not my case.

another quote Since it is written completely in C, there is currently
no language in which you can write extensions.

That's not good for me.

So please if anybody is emacs-skilled and happily uses it on OpenBSD as
an instrument tell me your experience and/or send your configs.



Re: RAID support

2010-10-07 Thread Jean-Francois
Hi,

Doing tests, I could not always do properly the kick off of a rebuild.
What is exactly the procedure for doing a rebuild with bioctl -R ?

In particular I don't understand, when you have say a build with chunks sd0a 
and sd1a, then remove one chunk, plug a new one, if it doe'nt appear as sd1 
but sd2 or whatever, then how do you attach it to the raid device - which is 
waiting for a sd1a (the offline device) ?

Regards



Issue when turning off modem noise on dial-in and dial-up + mgetty

2010-10-07 Thread Orestes LeaL R.

I have a machine running openbsd 4.3 acting as a dialin server using
mgetty, I need to turn off the modem noise of dial-in and dial-out,
I tried and then I edited /etc/ttys and added -m ' AMT0' to the line
where mgetty is but I add to -D also and when I reboot the server dial-in
service responds in the first request (I do not want this since my config
it's based on rings 2 config and wait 20 seconds for the client to dial  
again

as explained in the home page of mgetty, also I tried to make a 4.6 box a
dial-in server cloning the config but DOESN'T work with 4.6 at least with  
the same config,

 help needed here boys I need to turn off the audio on the modem.

LeaL

yes: my english it's a mess!


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Re: Issue when turning off modem noise on dial-in and dial-up + mgetty

2010-10-07 Thread Hugo Villeneuve
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 04:04:43PM -0500, Orestes LeaL R. wrote:
...
 as explained in the home page of mgetty, also I tried to make a 4.6 box a
 dial-in server cloning the config but DOESN'T work with 4.6 at least with  
 the same config,
  help needed here boys I need to turn off the audio on the modem.

After 4.3, OpenBSD stopped using pccom to use the common com
driver on i386.

/start of rant

That wasn't progress. Capabilites where lost.

I had a perfectly working dialin-dialout setup with getty for a
decade that is now not working anymore (It somewhat work if I reserve
the line/modem for dial-in only. And make sure getty is killed before
doing dial-out)

I have also 2 internal modem (ISA/PCI) that gets detected as having
no fifo (they do have them, they just didn't implement the similated
loopback mode openbsd use to test them). That require the machine
to do 3500+ interupt/second instead of the more reasonable 600
interupt/second. In 4.3, I can force it to use the fifo, but in 4.8
the same hack cause data integrity issue.

/end of rant


Not that I know how to resolve your issue with mgetty, but I would
try on 4.3 first. I mostly gave up on 4.3 and the com driver.

(mgetty -m is a chat script, like -m ' ATM0L0 OK'. mgetty has a
debug log, that can help too.)


 
 LeaL
 
 yes: my english it's a mess!
 
 
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Re: Can't boot from 05-Oct-2010 snapshot's install48.iso

2010-10-07 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Should I conclude nobody else gets this?

(The story was about install48.iso from 05-Oct-2010 hanging on boot with no
error message when encountering a misbehaving device that was simply disabled
in august snapshots and previous releases).

Dmitrij D. Czarkoff czark...@gmail.com wrote:

 Matthew Dempsky matt...@dempsky.org wrote:
 
  Some more details would be helpful.  E.g., at least a dmesg from your
  working 4.7 install, and if you could transcribe at least the last few
  lines of dmesg output from booting install48.iso (e.g., did it panic
  or just hang?) that would go a long way.

 My 4.7 dmesg:

 OpenBSD 4.7-stable (GENERIC.MP) #0: Thu Jul 22 09:31:34 MSD 2010
 r...@ao531h.bedova:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
 RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery
 cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 GHz
 cpu0: 
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR
 real mem  = 1060163584 (1011MB)
 avail mem = 1018466304 (971MB)
 RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery
 mainbus0 at root
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/06/08, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe90b0 (31 
 entries)
 bios0: vendor Acer version v0.3110 date 10/06/2008
 bios0: Acer AO531h
 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT HPET APIC MCFG ASF! SLIC BOOT
 acpi0: wakeup devices P32_(S4) UHC1(S3) UHC2(S3) UHC3(S3) UHC4(S3) ECHI(S3) 
 EXP1(S4) EXP2(S4) EXP3(S4) EXP4(S4) AZAL(S0) MODM(S0)
 acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
 acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
 cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
 cpu0: apic clock running at 132MHz
 cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
 cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 GHz
 cpu1: 
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR
 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
 ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 4
 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
 acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 4 (P32_)
 acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (EXP1)
 acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP2)
 acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP3)
 acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP4)
 acpiec0 at acpi0
 acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
 acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
 acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 95 degC
 acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
 acpibtn1 at acpi0: LID0
 acpibtn2 at acpi0: SLPB
 acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT1 not present
 acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
 acpivideo0 at acpi0: OVGA
 acpivout0 at acpivideo0: CRT1
 acpivout1 at acpivideo0: DTV1
 acpivout2 at acpivideo0: DFP1
 acpivout3 at acpivideo0: LCD_
 acpivout4 at acpivideo0: DTV2
 acpivout5 at acpivideo0: DFP2
 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xec00!
 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1596 MHz: speeds: 1600, 1333, 1066, 800 MHz
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945GME Host rev 0x03
 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945GME Video rev 0x03
 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 intagp0 at vga1
 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0x4000, size 0x1000
 inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 4 int 16 (irq 11)
 drm0 at inteldrm0
 Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
 azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x02: apic 4 
 int 16 (irq 11)
 azalia0: codecs: Realtek ALC272
 audio0 at azalia0
 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16 
 (irq 255)
 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
 ale0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Attansic Technology L1E rev 0xb0: AR8113, 
 apic 4 int 16 (irq 11), address 00:26:9e:00:53:d1
 atphy0 at ale0 phy 0: F1 10/100/1000 PHY, rev. 9
 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 4 int 18 
 (irq 255)
 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
 iwn0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel WiFi Link 5150 rev 0x00: apic 4 int 18 
 (irq 11), MIMO 1T2R, ABG, address 00:16:eb:0e:7d:62
 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 4 int 19 
 (irq 255)
 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3
 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16 
 (irq 11)
 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 4 int 17 
 (irq 11)
 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 4 int 18 
 (irq 11)
 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 4 int 19 
 (irq 11)
 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16 
 (irq 11)
 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
 ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI rev 0xe2
 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4
 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801GBM LPC rev 0x02: PM disabled
 pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801GB IDE rev 0x02: DMA, channel 
 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 

Re: Wireless Network GUI

2010-10-07 Thread Paul M

On 8/10/2010, at 1:44 AM, Guillaume Duali wrote:


On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 09:33:44 -0300, Christiano F. Haesbaert
haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:

Why not make a curses GUI ? I find it much more useful than gtk/qt
(IMHO).


In my opinion, the aim of this project is to provide a graphical tool,
which can be inserted in some WM like XFCE, etc.
Guillaume.



If the app is properly designed, then switching out for a different UI
can be pretty trivial.
I tend to construct all my graphical apps this way now, and even went
so far as to build multiple UI
support into a makefile so I can build different versions simply by
typing 'make curses' or 'make fltk'.

If you're comfortable with the various components you're working with
(ui toolkits, etc), this can be very easy to impliment. (OK, the
makefile was lets say - a challenge, but it's in no way essential, just
icing on the cake).


paulm


ps: For most things, I much prefer fltk over other windowing toolkits
I've used.



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Re: Missing nsd.conf in snaps

2010-10-07 Thread Jean-Christophe Choisy
Joe Gidi joe at entropicblur.com writes:

 
 Running the 10/03/10 snapshot of amd64, I notice nsd.conf has been added
 to /etc/mtree/special but the actual /etc/nsd.conf file seems to be
 missing, so security(8) complains about the missing file.
 
 I just grabbed the etc48.tgz for today's snaps and found that nsd.conf is
 not present there, either. Is it being left out of snapshots for some
 reason?
 


actually the whole NSD hierarchy is missing. trying to start the service reveals
that files expected in /var for instance are not there.



Re: Can't boot from 05-Oct-2010 snapshot's install48.iso

2010-10-07 Thread Nick Holland
On 10/07/10 18:24, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote:
 Should I conclude nobody else gets this?
 
 (The story was about install48.iso from 05-Oct-2010 hanging on boot with no
 error message when encountering a misbehaving device that was simply disabled
 in august snapshots and previous releases).

Well, you did kinda lead people down a very strange path, with no
details until your FOURTH message in the thread.

As for having this happen, uh...actually, I believe I have never plugged
a CDROM drive into my netbook (first generation Acer Aspire One, looks
like your is second generation).  hm. come to think of it, the only time
I saw a DVD-RAM disk (on a desktop), it hung there, too.  I just assumed
it was a bad drive (actually, the drive made noises that made me pretty
sure it was bad, but maybe there was more...)

I would recommend upgrading via other means (bsd.rd - network install,
or copy files to local hd or USB flash drive first, whatever), and
investigate then if the problem exists with the GENERIC kernel or if it
is just a bsd.rd issue.

Nick.

 
 Dmitrij D. Czarkoff czark...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Matthew Dempsky matt...@dempsky.org wrote:
 
  Some more details would be helpful.  E.g., at least a dmesg from your
  working 4.7 install, and if you could transcribe at least the last few
  lines of dmesg output from booting install48.iso (e.g., did it panic
  or just hang?) that would go a long way.

 My 4.7 dmesg:

 OpenBSD 4.7-stable (GENERIC.MP) #0: Thu Jul 22 09:31:34 MSD 2010
 r...@ao531h.bedova:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
 RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery
 cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 
 GHz
 cpu0: 
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR
 real mem  = 1060163584 (1011MB)
 avail mem = 1018466304 (971MB)
 RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery
 mainbus0 at root
 bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/06/08, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe90b0 
 (31 entries)
 bios0: vendor Acer version v0.3110 date 10/06/2008
 bios0: Acer AO531h
 acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT HPET APIC MCFG ASF! SLIC BOOT
 acpi0: wakeup devices P32_(S4) UHC1(S3) UHC2(S3) UHC3(S3) UHC4(S3) ECHI(S3) 
 EXP1(S4) EXP2(S4) EXP3(S4) EXP4(S4) AZAL(S0) MODM(S0)
 acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
 acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
 cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
 cpu0: apic clock running at 132MHz
 cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
 cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 
 GHz
 cpu1: 
 FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR
 ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
 ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 4
 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
 acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 4 (P32_)
 acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (EXP1)
 acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP2)
 acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP3)
 acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP4)
 acpiec0 at acpi0
 acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
 acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
 acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 95 degC
 acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
 acpibtn1 at acpi0: LID0
 acpibtn2 at acpi0: SLPB
 acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT1 not present
 acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
 acpivideo0 at acpi0: OVGA
 acpivout0 at acpivideo0: CRT1
 acpivout1 at acpivideo0: DTV1
 acpivout2 at acpivideo0: DFP1
 acpivout3 at acpivideo0: LCD_
 acpivout4 at acpivideo0: DTV2
 acpivout5 at acpivideo0: DFP2
 bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xec00!
 cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1596 MHz: speeds: 1600, 1333, 1066, 800 MHz
 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945GME Host rev 0x03
 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945GME Video rev 0x03
 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
 intagp0 at vga1
 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0x4000, size 0x1000
 inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 4 int 16 (irq 11)
 drm0 at inteldrm0
 Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
 azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x02: apic 4 
 int 16 (irq 11)
 azalia0: codecs: Realtek ALC272
 audio0 at azalia0
 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 4 int 16 
 (irq 255)
 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
 ale0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Attansic Technology L1E rev 0xb0: AR8113, 
 apic 4 int 16 (irq 11), address 00:26:9e:00:53:d1
 atphy0 at ale0 phy 0: F1 10/100/1000 PHY, rev. 9
 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 4 int 18 
 (irq 255)
 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2
 iwn0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel WiFi Link 5150 rev 0x00: apic 4 int 18 
 (irq 11), MIMO 1T2R, ABG, address 00:16:eb:0e:7d:62
 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 4 int 19 
 (irq 255)
 

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Re: Can't boot from 05-Oct-2010 snapshot's install48.iso

2010-10-07 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:

 On 10/07/10 18:24, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote:
  Should I conclude nobody else gets this?
  
  (The story was about install48.iso from 05-Oct-2010 hanging on boot with no
  error message when encountering a misbehaving device that was simply 
  disabled
  in august snapshots and previous releases).

 Well, you did kinda lead people down a very strange path, with no
 details until your FOURTH message in the thread.

 As for having this happen, uh...actually, I believe I have never plugged
 a CDROM drive into my netbook (first generation Acer Aspire One, looks
 like your is second generation).  hm. come to think of it, the only time
 I saw a DVD-RAM disk (on a desktop), it hung there, too.  I just assumed
 it was a bad drive (actually, the drive made noises that made me pretty
 sure it was bad, but maybe there was more...)

 I would recommend upgrading via other means (bsd.rd - network install,
 or copy files to local hd or USB flash drive first, whatever), and
 investigate then if the problem exists with the GENERIC kernel or if it
 is just a bsd.rd issue.

Thanks for suggestion!

I've downloaded the bsd.rd and booted it with the same result - booting
process stops at the same point. The system still reacts on Num Lock.

Anything else I can try?

  
  Dmitrij D. Czarkoff czark...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  Matthew Dempsky matt...@dempsky.org wrote:
  
   Some more details would be helpful.  E.g., at least a dmesg from your
   working 4.7 install, and if you could transcribe at least the last few
   lines of dmesg output from booting install48.iso (e.g., did it panic
   or just hang?) that would go a long way.
 
  My 4.7 dmesg:
 
  OpenBSD 4.7-stable (GENERIC.MP) #0: Thu Jul 22 09:31:34 MSD 2010
  r...@ao531h.bedova:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
  RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery
  cpu0: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 
  GHz
  cpu0: 
  FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR
  real mem  = 1060163584 (1011MB)
  avail mem = 1018466304 (971MB)
  RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery
  mainbus0 at root
  bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 10/06/08, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe90b0 
  (31 entries)
  bios0: vendor Acer version v0.3110 date 10/06/2008
  bios0: Acer AO531h
  acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
  acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT HPET APIC MCFG ASF! SLIC BOOT
  acpi0: wakeup devices P32_(S4) UHC1(S3) UHC2(S3) UHC3(S3) UHC4(S3) 
  ECHI(S3) EXP1(S4) EXP2(S4) EXP3(S4) EXP4(S4) AZAL(S0) MODM(S0)
  acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
  acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
  acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
  cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
  cpu0: apic clock running at 132MHz
  cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
  cpu1: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.60 
  GHz
  cpu1: 
  FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,TM2,xTPR
  ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 4 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
  ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 4
  acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
  acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 4 (P32_)
  acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 1 (EXP1)
  acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP2)
  acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP3)
  acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP4)
  acpiec0 at acpi0
  acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
  acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
  acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 95 degC
  acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB
  acpibtn1 at acpi0: LID0
  acpibtn2 at acpi0: SLPB
  acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT1 not present
  acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
  acpivideo0 at acpi0: OVGA
  acpivout0 at acpivideo0: CRT1
  acpivout1 at acpivideo0: DTV1
  acpivout2 at acpivideo0: DFP1
  acpivout3 at acpivideo0: LCD_
  acpivout4 at acpivideo0: DTV2
  acpivout5 at acpivideo0: DFP2
  bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xec00!
  cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1596 MHz: speeds: 1600, 1333, 1066, 800 MHz
  pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
  pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82945GME Host rev 0x03
  vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 82945GME Video rev 0x03
  wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
  wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
  intagp0 at vga1
  agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0x4000, size 0x1000
  inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 4 int 16 (irq 11)
  drm0 at inteldrm0
  Intel 82945GM Video rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
  azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801GB HD Audio rev 0x02: apic 
  4 int 16 (irq 11)
  azalia0: codecs: Realtek ALC272
  audio0 at azalia0
  ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x02: apic 4 int 
  16 (irq 255)
  pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
  ale0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Attansic Technology L1E rev 0xb0: AR8113, 
  apic 4 int 16 (irq 11), address 00:26:9e:00:53:d1
  atphy0 at ale0 phy 0: F1 

Re: ACPI on ASUS Eee PC 1201pn with 4.8

2010-10-07 Thread Tomas Bodzar
2010/10/7 Guillaume DualC) g.du...@otasc.org:
 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 15:23:18 +0200, Tomas Bodzar
 tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you are not comfortable with -current then it's better to start
 with snapshot as you can avoid compilation, you will have binary
 upgrades of OS and packages and so on

 2010/10/7 Guillaume DualC) g.du...@otasc.org:
 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 11:17:36 +0200, Joachim Schipper
 joac...@joachimschipper.nl wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 10:27:43AM +0200, Guillaume Duali wrote:
 On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 06:02:10 +0200, Tomas Bodzar
 tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:
  4.8 is closed for a quite long time. Support can start only in
current
  so 4.9 is nearest possible release which will support your HW ;-)
 Ho ok ^^
 So, what must I do ? Wait that 4.8 go out officially and try with
 -current 4.9 when it will be available ?

 -current, as you can get from CVS today, is already past 4.8 and will
 become 4.9 at some point.

 B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Joachim

 Hi Joachim,
 thanks for your help and thanks for your previous message.
 I will try it in some week, I must made a lot of backup before ^^
 Guillaume.


 Yes Tomas,
 I tried with it last time :
 http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/i386/install48.iso
 Are you talking about it, isn't it ?



Yes that's correct. Maybe I missed that in your first post. Sorry ;-)
It's easir to use that and you will be very close to current.


--
bIf youbre good at something, never do it for free.bB bThe Joker



libc glob issue?

2010-10-07 Thread Jeremy Chase
I found this article that claims 4.7's ftpd and sftp are vulnerable to DoS:

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Flaw-in-libc-implementation-threatens-FTP-servers-1103319.html

Which links to:

http://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/security/advisories/NetBSD-SA2010-008.txt.asc


I haven't seen any talk of it, is this an issue for us?