Performance decrease on my student minipc from 7.3
Hello, I would like to ask for help for my student minipc that upgraded to 7.3 showed off a tangible decrease of performance. OpenBSD had already problems recognizing many acpi "parts".. indeed I finally decided to pass you its full dmesg. For know I got a rendering general improvement of performance by opening allowaperture and disabling composition in X. But as you switch to the console is still slow to make things happening. Indeed I hope in this way you can better support these minipc series that after all is not bad at all. Thanks, appreciated. -- Daniele Bonini OpenBSD 7.3 (GENERIC.MP) #3: Tue Jul 25 08:20:26 MDT 2023 r...@syspatch-73-amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP real mem = 8439963648 (8048MB) avail mem = 8164773888 (7786MB) random: good seed from bootblocks mpath0 at root scsibus0 at mpath0: 256 targets mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.7 @ 0xdbe53018 (84 entries) bios0: vendor FUJITSU // American Megatrends Inc. version "V4.6.5.4 R1.47.0 for D3233-A1x" date 08/26/2019 bios0: FUJITSU ESPRIMO Q920 acpi0 at bios0: ACPI 5.0 acpi0: sleep states S0 S3 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC FPDT TCPA SSDT SSDT MCFG HPET SSDT SSDT ASF! MSDM SLIC DMAR acpi0: wakeup devices PXSX(S4) PXSX(S4) PXSX(S4) GLAN(S4) EHC1(S4) EHC2(S4) XHC_(S4) HDEF(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz, 1995.55 MHz, 06-3c-03 cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,PERF,ITSC,MELTDOWN cpu0: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support, 10 var ranges, 88 fixed ranges cpu0: apic clock running at 99MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 2 (application processor) cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz, 1995.44 MHz, 06-3c-03 cpu1: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,PERF,ITSC,MELTDOWN cpu1: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu2 at mainbus0: apid 4 (application processor) cpu2: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz, 1995.52 MHz, 06-3c-03 cpu2: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,PERF,ITSC,MELTDOWN cpu2: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache cpu3 at mainbus0: apid 6 (application processor) cpu3: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz, 1995.55 MHz, 06-3c-03 cpu3: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE,SSE3,PCLMUL,DTES64,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,SMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,SDBG,FMA3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,PCID,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,x2APIC,MOVBE,POPCNT,DEADLINE,AES,XSAVE,AVX,F16C,RDRAND,NXE,PAGE1GB,RDTSCP,LONG,LAHF,ABM,PERF,ITSC,MELTDOWN cpu3: 256KB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins acpimcfg0 at acpi0 acpimcfg0: addr 0xf800, bus 0-63 acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiec0 at acpi0: not present acpipci0 at acpi0 PCI0: 0x 0x0011 0x0001 acpicmos0 at acpi0 "FUJ02E3" at acpi0 not configured tpm0 at acpi0 TPM_ 1.2 (TIS) addr 0xfed4/0x5000, Infineon SLB9635 1.2 rev 0x10 "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured "PNP0C32" at acpi0 not configured "PNP0C14" at acpi0 not configured acpibtn0 at acpi0: PWRB "PNP0C0B" at acpi0 not configured "PNP0C0B" at acpi0 not configured "PNP0C0B" at acpi0 not configured "PNP0C0B" at acpi0 not configured "PNP0C0B" at acpi0 not configured acpicpu0 at acpi0: C1(@1 halt!), PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: C1(@1 halt!), PSS acpicpu2 at acpi0: C1(@1 halt!), PSS acpicpu3 at acpi0: C1(@1 halt!), PSS acpipwrres0 at acpi0: FN00, resource for FAN0 acpipwrres1 at acpi0: FN01, resource for FAN1 acpipwrres2 at acpi0: FN02, resource for FAN2 acpipwrres3 at acpi0: FN03, resource for FAN3 acpipwrres4 at acpi0: FN04, resource for FAN4 acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature is 80 degC acpitz1 at acpi0: critical temperature is 80 degC acpivideo0 at acpi0: GFX0 acpivout0 at acpivideo0: DD1F cpu0: using Broadwell MDS workaround cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1995 MHz: speeds: 2001, 2000, 1900, 1800, 1700, 1600, 1500, 1400, 1300, 1200, 1100, 1000, 900, 800 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0 pchb0 at pci0
Unbound cache default reset time for 404 or upstream failovers
Hello, As I already stated before on my machine I'm using Unbound local cache mechanism with its pros and cons. One of the few cons that I mentioned to you lately was the prb, sometimes occurring of faulty sites configuration that entering in the Unbound cache lock me out during my subsequent retries fixed things as required.. Playing with a new website I now noticed that although I'm using the default values for Unbound cache ttl settings the cache after some hours of inactivity reset itself almost in the dns entries with problems (404 or upstream failovers).. I just wonder if this is the expected behavior and if yes if you can let me know the default reset time for this kind of "resets" ? Using OpenBSD 7.2 Thnks a lot, appreciated! -- Daniele Bonini
Re: Increasing the log level for php
obviously you can set:
ini_set('display_errors', '1');
ini_set(’display_startup_errors’, '1');
ini_set('error_reporting’, ‘E_ALL’);
on the top of the index.php, just after
Re: 7.2: backup adventures against last alternate
UPDATE: Fixed that disk I decided to rebooted to test it one more time before starting the backup again from that. It seems not my day: BAD SUPER BLOCK: VALUES IN SUPER BLOCK DISAGREE WITH THOSE IN LAST ALTERNATE RUN fsck_ffs MANUALLY like before to fix it.. -- Daniele Bonini > > Hello, > > (7.2 patched till 72-024) > > I just came across the moment to do my backups and testing > the resulting two backup disks the result was the same for both: > > BAD SUPER BLOCK: VALUES IN SUPER BLOCK DISAGREE WITH THOSE IN LAST > ALTERNATE > RUN fsck_ffs MANUALLY > > After the third time I redid the full stack of backup I start to be > suspicious about the source disk, you know... tar of my important > files, etc. and running an fsck_ffs on the source disk the result was > negative, it was all fine. > > So, I convinced myself that was the time to fix one of the disks > and see the result... > > BAD SUPERBLOCK ... DO YOU WANT to FIND A NEW ALTERNATE? (or something > alike) Fyn? y > > CLEAN? Fyn? F > > (after 5 min) > > etc. > > *** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups > FREE BLK COUNT(S) WRONG IN SUPERBLK > SALVAGE? yes > > SUMMARY INFORMATION BAD > SALVAGE? yes > > BLK(S) MISSING IN BIT MAPS > SALVAGE? yes > > CG 288: BAD MAGIC NUMBER > CG 289: BAD MAGIC NUMBER > CG 290: BAD MAGIC NUMBER > CG 291: BAD MAGIC NUMBER > CG 292: BAD MAGIC NUMBER > CG 293: BAD MAGIC NUMBER > etc. > > UPDATE STANDARD SUPERBLOCK? yes > > Can you help me to understand what happened to my disks? > > Thx, appreciated. > > > -- Daniele Bonini -- Daniele Bonini Project Owner and Author http://5mode.com via Massimo Gorki 23 40128 splash.ooo/g/Bologna Italy +390514086280 +393314029415 -- This message is confidential, including all materials contained inside or attached to this email, and intended only for the addressee. If you have received this message in error, please delete it from your systems. You are hereby notified that distribution or copying of its content is strictly prohibited. For information about 5 Mode visit http://5mode.com
7.2: backup adventures against last alternate
Hello, (7.2 patched till 72-024) I just came across the moment to do my backups and testing the resulting two backup disks the result was the same for both: BAD SUPER BLOCK: VALUES IN SUPER BLOCK DISAGREE WITH THOSE IN LAST ALTERNATE RUN fsck_ffs MANUALLY After the third time I redid the full stack of backup I start to be suspicious about the source disk, you know... tar of my important files, etc. and running an fsck_ffs on the source disk the result was negative, it was all fine. So, I convinced myself that was the time to fix one of the disks and see the result... BAD SUPERBLOCK ... DO YOU WANT to FIND A NEW ALTERNATE? (or something alike) Fyn? y CLEAN? Fyn? F (after 5 min) etc. *** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups FREE BLK COUNT(S) WRONG IN SUPERBLK SALVAGE? yes SUMMARY INFORMATION BAD SALVAGE? yes BLK(S) MISSING IN BIT MAPS SALVAGE? yes CG 288: BAD MAGIC NUMBER CG 289: BAD MAGIC NUMBER CG 290: BAD MAGIC NUMBER CG 291: BAD MAGIC NUMBER CG 292: BAD MAGIC NUMBER CG 293: BAD MAGIC NUMBER etc. UPDATE STANDARD SUPERBLOCK? yes Can you help me to understand what happened to my disks? Thx, appreciated. -- Daniele Bonini
Re: 7.3 php gd.so cannot load
Stuart Henderson wrote: > > how does ldconfig -r look? > > > > /var/run/ld.so.hints: > > search directories: /usr/lib:/usr/local/lib > > That should have /usr/X11R6/lib as well. confirming.. mine (8.0.29)$ ldconfig -r /var/run/ld.so.hints: search directories: /usr/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib:/usr/local/lib
Re: 7.3 php gd.so cannot load
Kent Watsen wrote: > I'm confused. PHP is looking for > `/usr/local/lib/php-8.1/modules/gd.so`, is > `/usr/local/lib/libgd.so.23.0` related? mine (PHP 8.0.29)$ ldd /usr/local/lib/php-8.0/modules/gd.so /usr/local/lib/php-8.0/modules/gd.so: StartEnd Type Open Ref GrpRef Name 0fcea81ee000 0fcea820b000 dlib 20 0 /usr/local/lib/php-8.0/modules/gd.so 0fce55a6a000 0fce55ada000 rlib 01 0 /usr/local/lib/libgd.so.23.0 0fce2b078000 0fce2b096000 rlib 06 0 /usr/lib/libz.so.7.0 0fce9f4b5000 0fce9f586000 rlib 03 0 /usr/X11R6/lib/libfreetype.so.30.2 0fce32dbf000 0fce32e01000 rlib 02 0 /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.18.0 0fcebfb5e000 0fcebfb8f000 rlib 05 0 /usr/lib/libm.so.10.1 0fce6bb14000 0fce6bc26000 rlib 02 0 /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.7.1 0fce948f5000 0fce94998000 rlib 03 0 /usr/local/lib/libjpeg.so.70.0 0fceec1a6000 0fceec237000 rlib 02 0 /usr/local/lib/libtiff.so.41.1 0fcf0f37d000 0fcf0f46f000 rlib 02 0 /usr/local/lib/libzstd.so.6.1 0fce58233000 0fce5826 rlib 02 0 /usr/local/lib/liblzma.so.2.1 0fcea18aa000 0fcea18b6000 rlib 06 0 /usr/lib/libpthread.so.26.2 0fce4a6b4000 0fce4a706000 rlib 02 0 /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.13.1 0fcf2285d000 0fcf2288f000 rlib 02 0 /usr/lib/libexpat.so.14.0 0fcec7793000 0fcec7826000 rlib 02 0 /usr/local/lib/libwebp.so.4.3 0fced8dda000 0fced8ebe000 rlib 02 0 /usr/lib/libc++.so.9.0 0fcf01e35000 0fcf01e7b000 rlib 03 0 /usr/lib/libc++abi.so.6.0
Securing ttys
Hello, After the last patches, thanks gosh it is arrived the last *trendy*, *new* as *much acclaimed* keystrokes attack.. So I turned from the road to work this night -> to try to fix my ttys. Indeed, I'm here asking your help to avoid ways to remain locked out or to just not remain more dirty in this "pond", possibly. My constraints are the followings: 1) I would like to avoid root password request on single-user shell (that it permits me to solve risky quiz while troubleshooting the system in bad conditions) 2) I would like as less as possible active ttys for a dev workstation and indeed I would like all ttys locally bound. 3) I would like to disable - if possible - the CTRL + ALT + FN keystrokes combinations to recall each single TTY Doing this I wonder a couple of more details: a) what is the cleanest as safest syntax to not jump start getty on the network (including the zero possibility to eventually trigger it..) b) where to specify correctly the flag "local" (eg. in console and ttyC0 ?) c) I can safely disable all CN apart C0 or you consider this move hazardous in the optic to rescue the system or so forth? Thnks, appreciated! :D -- Daniele Bonini
Re: Recovering from as identical as faulty backup disk..
I did the second backup again and reattached the disk to my system, the result was like that: https://5md.at/l/obcons2 (disk attached but CRC error follows) But I can mount it correctly. So I decide to try changing drive enclosure, from as a simple as not powered Orico 2.5'' to a powered Orico 2.5/3.5'': solved, disk attached, no CRC error. Three weeks ago I attached the second backup disk by the same not powered enclosure to recover some files and I got no problems at all but frankly speaking I do not remember if I checked the console status, probably not. It seems when two days ago I reported in misc, I got a clash of problems, by coincidence: a not successful backup and the wrong enclosure (a blasphemous two external not powered enclosures on a usb hub). This is all what I can interpret for you. The behaviour of OpenBSD with the CRC error popping up referencing sd1 (by the same UID) should be your part and it is all to understand. -- Daniele Bonini
Recovering from as identical as faulty backup disk..
Hello, I just come from the following situation on 7.2, patched till two days ago. Lost some files I attached my second backup external disk to recover them. And I couldn't see the disk, no error message, no advice from the terminal. This disk should appear to me like sd3. I then decided to enter in X and inserting the disk again from the console I read this: sd1(umass0:1:0) Check Condition (error 0x70) on opcode 0x2a SENSE KEY: Aborted Command ASC/ASCQ: information Unit iuCRC Error Detected sd1 was the original disk which the second backup disk was copy from. And obviously the faulty sd3 had the same UID of sd1. Apart my the physical problem of the identical bit-by-bit copy of my disk that is already something difficult to explain.. a couple of observations come in my mind: 1) In terminal I do not receive more any advice that a new external disk is attached. Maybe for the CRC error, maybe not. 2) The CRC problem of sd3 is passed to sd1 just because the first disk by the given UID in the system? I then rebooted on the backup disk and fix the fss prb to solve my situation but frankly the system could be more helpful and less error prone in these kind of emergency situations. -- Daniele Bonini
Re: Little attention to sweeties that hit the disk..
Daniele Bonini wrote: > Leaving an eye on your disk led leads sometimes to an unexpected > encounters. Certainly not all of us have led on the storage device or all of them. Does (or could) exist an easy utility to monitor these unwanted happenings? -- Daniele Bonini
Little attention to sweeties that hit the disk..
Hello, For you, guys, with one or more little and fashionable storage device. Recently I encounter in a website problem of one supplier of mine causing my disk literally be hit by the indefinitely writing of a cookie id under Firefox 106.0.2 (in 7.2), caused by a *junior* bug in the cookie manager, or so. I reported the bug to them and left the boiling field after a while. However, just to share about this final morale: Leaving an eye on your disk led leads sometimes to an unexpected encounters. Indeed, enough hilarious, today cookies are so important that you need to care about them also at night time (to save the disk).. -- Daniele Bonini
Re: Searching for OpenBSD feed rss
Hiltjo Posthuma wrote: > http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=rss > > has some OpenBSD news. Hello and thanks for this one. I was skeptic about this resource because descriptions were full links and special chars.. argg.. However in the end I manage to get a decent result https://rssduck.com/search?pdate=any&q=openbsd Thanks again for the *challenge*. -- Daniele Bonini
Re: sftp-server listening port how-to
Here I am with one more trouble.. (I'm still waiting proper reply from the hosting for the change of sshd port and the related consequences to the VPS console but let's remain on sftp topic..) I configured sshd to chroot ftp requests in this way: Match User myftpuser ChrootDirectory /home/of/the/hackers ForceCommand internal-sftp giving the proper permissions to the destination dir, etc. as from Peter doc too. Both by Filezilla and console sftp I get ugly errors: Filezilla: FATAL ERROR: Remote side unexpectedly closed network Could not connect to server sftp: client_loop: send disconnect: Broken pipe Connection closed NB: I do not want to exit from the match directive scope and find me in more troubles :-/ -- Daniele Bonini
Re: sftp-server listening port how-to
cor...@free.fr wrote: > > Since sftp uses ssh port, you can just change the port for sshd. > in sshd_config: > > Port 22 > > change it to any number you want. VPS here come in a nice package with a default web console over ssh. An other one: if I try to nobody the user default shell I'm out of any luck to be able to connect. Unfortunately appear all a little too restrictive. However, thank you for the quick reply.
sftp-server listening port how-to
Hello, I'm wondering if there is any chance to change the default listening port for sftp-server. NB: I'm using it on my Linoox VPS but I see from the man a given OpenBSD 2.8 port origin. Thanks, appreciated! -- Daniele Bonini
Re: Disabling .core file generation
Crystal Kolipe wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 05:15:30PM +0100, Daniele Bonini wrote: > >> Is it still possible to disable file .core generation at all? > > > > > > Yes, it is. > > > > ok, thx > > > > NB: see /etc/rc.conf.local > > And also /etc/login.conf I did set rc.local.conf with the following: savecore_flags=-c /dev/null And I set login.conf adding the following: default:\ .. :coredumpsize-max=1M:\ :coredumpsize-cur=1M: but nothing change after a reboot, I'm always in good company of my 1 giga WebKitProcess.core.. -- Daniele Bonini
Re: Unbound prisoner :D
Zé Loff wrote: > Use a local socket for unbound's remote control: > > remote-control: > control-enable: yes > control-interface: /var/run/unbound.sock > > or use unwind to force some domains to be resolved elsewhere, > bypassing your caching resolver. Thank you for hint, I will consider it or leave it for my "hermetic stanza".. :D -- Daniele Bonini
Disabling .core file generation
Hello, I live with giga sized files like WebKitProcess.core popping up here and there.. Is it still possible to disable file .core generation at all? Thanks, appreciated. -- Daniele Bonini
Re: tracker-miner-fs-3
Tomasz Rola wrote: > As of MC being a gem, it did not come to my mind until writing of my > previous email, but, yes, it worked for so many years and I do not > recall it failing me even once. Discs, operating systems, unicode in > filenames, it keeps to "just working". Oh my, unicode in filenames!? Am I reading well? TRUE? You own the key to open our file system to the chinese characters then.. can you explain me how to arrive there? :D [ woodpecker sound attached ] -- Daniele Bonini
Unbound prisoner :D
Hello, I'm currently using Unbound in my own setup with a very basic and incomplete configuration that should serve myself mainly the local dns caching mechanism factor. Problem arising are two: 1) I'm not able to stop (or refresh) unbound via my own unload script as unbound-control is disabled. This save my boat from a security prospective, if it's not real the following.. 2) Caching forbid me often to deal the actual nameservers of this or the other of even my own websites. I change nameservers of the website I'm currently working on and I'm stuck, I can't rich it anymore. Any tip, tweak or hack ? Eheh.. Daniele Bonini -- Damn, and the security of everthing!?
Re: tracker-miner-fs-3
> tracker3-minerS depends on nautilus > nautilus depends on file-roller > file-roller depends on thunar-archive-plugin (omg.. optional) Just to let you know that in the end I erased any of these *optionals* in favour of xarchiver, maybe worse then file-roll but.. saving on disk life.. -- Daniele Bonini
tracker-miner-fs-3
Hello, Sorry if I'm reluctant to this piece of software: NAME tracker-miner-fs-3 - Used to crawl the file system to mine data. SYNOPSIS tracker-miner-fs-3 DESCRIPTION tracker-miner-fs-3 is not supposed to be run by the user since it is started by its .desktop file when the user logs in. It can also be started manually of course for debugging purposes. You can not run more than one instance of this at the same time. SEE ALSO tracker3-info(1) AUTHOR The tracker develoeprs. It is continuously accessing and browsing my disk.. Any clue? Is it possible to safely disable it? Appreciated, thanks. -- Daniele Bonini
Re: 7.2: Console Errors
Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > > Can't find the pid in the system.. :D > > ps -kax me# ps -kax | grep 80703 80703 ?? DK 0:27.08 (i915_flip) Actually the Console contains: drm:pid80703;intel_pipe_update_start *ERROR* [drm] *ERROR* Potential atomic update failure on pipe A drm:pid80703;intel_pipe_update_start *ERROR* [drm] *ERROR* Potential atomic update failure on pipe B drm:pid80703;intel_pipe_update_start *ERROR* [drm] *ERROR* Potential atomic update failure on pipe A drm:pid80703;intel_pipe_update_end *ERROR* [drm] *ERROR* Atomic update failure on pipe A (start=3125193 end=3125194) time 2 us, min 763, max 767, scanline start 764, end 768 drm:pid80703;intel_pipe_update_start *ERROR* [drm] *ERROR* Potential atomic update failure on pipe A -- Daniele Bonini
Re: OpenBSD, PHP lifecycle and PHP 8.1 broken compatibility
"Theo de Raadt" wrote: > We would be happy to give you a refund if you are not happy. First time I used OpenBSD was the middle of 2012, in China. I was trying different options like an OS, and my focus went on FreeBSD and OpenBSD. Despite the obvious notoriety of some OpenBSD software already at that time, FreeBSD simply didn't and doesn't grant its users all what OpenBSD does ( I know, you can say me that maybe tweaked is another story..). As OpenBSD was with me at the Shanghai Digital Plaza market to let me choose the new laptop.. today, it doesn't let me choose PHP version yet - that's the pity - and doesn't support Unicode (Ie: the Chinese lang) at system level - that's the pain, I must work with that! As I can quietly say that OpenBSD continues to do a lot to save my batt: since 2012, I developed tons of web apps with almost 85-90 managed domains I own + the 3rd party ones.. No refund request. And in the end if ChapGPT will be ever able to produce these kind of nice messages, I could, eventually, think to endorse it.. :D -- Daniele Bonini
Re: OpenBSD, PHP lifecycle and PHP 8.1 broken compatibility
Stuart Henderson wrote: > You're probably looking at the wrong OS then. OpenBSD takes in my game *portability* at any level: I do backups of my system in 12min.. and I can put it almost on any hardware.. this not little thing. It is defintely a problems of dev environment. It is starting from the thought that other OS have Docker, etc, where I can *download* any php version on the fly.. so yes, the choice of OpenBSD can be judge wrong. But for the posterity: I manage to work with Docker also online and with many other virtualization facilities so like I said before I can rationally choose to move things on live servers taking my portability God to the n extension.. But do not unplug me like my daughter does pushing a plug button.. > (In any event, whatever OS you use, if you find it unacceptable > to have your systems broken after an upgrade, you really should test > those upgrades on a spare machine/VM first..) As said above, there a no rumors of a broken OS around, like OpenBSD. And I work with the same hardware since decades.. It is all about the dev environment: more precisely I need to be able to choose the moment when to switch to PHP[N] and do entering in the update process of all my web apps, thats it. However your suggestion is really a good one for everyone. Thanks! -- Daniele Bonini
Re: OpenBSD, PHP lifecycle and PHP 8.1 broken compatibility
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2023 11:08:56 + (UTC) >From: Jan Stary >To: Daniele Bonini >Subject: Re: OpenBSD, PHP lifecycle and PHP 8.1 broken compatibility > > > Indeed, although the bad devs working on it, it is a pleasure to use > OpenBSD and I will find out an alternative solution > >Take you incoherent rants somewhere else. PS: pls, keep the discussion in the mailing list.
Re: OpenBSD, PHP lifecycle and PHP 8.1 broken compatibility
Stuart Henderson wrote: > We don't have resources to maintain security fixes for EoL'd PHP > versions beyond what PHP themselves provide Ok, got it. > > Worrysome this stuff from my side.. I personally have "tons" of > > webapps to mantain and there is not a "Docker solution". Is it > > plausible to come to arrange a "sustainable solution" by the ports, > > chroot or whatever? > > This is how the web development stack you have chosen works. There are > others which have better backwards compatibility than PHP. Let's say like OpenBSD like a PHP dev environment doesn't come in handy at time. Try to think if for any reason sysupgrade upgrade my php system version, they days after I will have no launch for a while. It is not acceptable.. Indeed, although the bad devs working on it, it is a pleasure to use OpenBSD and I will find out an alternative solution offline or more reasonable online.. -- Daniele Bonini
Re: OpenBSD, PHP lifecycle and PHP 8.1 broken compatibility
Michael Hekeler wrote: > You can run any PHP version you like. > You can run more than just single version. ls http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/7.2/packages/amd64/ | grep php-7.4.30p0.tgz 8197515 php-8.0.23p0.tgz 8771969 php-8.1.10p0.tgz 9017614 Ok, let's support OpenBSD project by compile whatever PHP version, right? It's not that easy (c lib and diff dependencies), but it is nice.. I was waiting for an honest answer against my problematic dev and testing environment.. -- Daniele Bonini
Re: Taring a "posix problemozauro"..
checking further, zip compression actually solved for my delivery (despite any permissions matter) Daniele Bonini wrote: > > Hello, > > I have a folder that - porting things to different destinations - I'm > trying to tar here and there. > > I'm coming from Debian with an #mb file tar and it is all fine. > > But when it is matter to deliver things from OpenBSD eg. to other > live destination taring the same stuff I get the following error: > > tar: File name too long for ustar > "go/Pippo/Pluto_Pluto_Pluto_Pluto/pippo/EN/pippo pippo pippo pippo > technical assistance and sale of appliances emergency service > throughout the pippo area pippo pippo superpippopippo.com" > > and these folder and files doesn't comes compressed at all. > > If I try with the Archive Utility generating the same tar > doesn't give me the best result..at all: > Archive chooses independently links to transform them in folder > further then respecting the folder structures; also double links for > the same destination are present in the resulting tar. > > I'm not sure where is matter of Posix file system restrictions > boundaries and when we can talk about "bugs". Archive seems really > drunk, Terminal a little less, but doesn't take to any happiness.. > > Despite any technical hint about OpenBSD.. am I forgetting any > compression option for the required resolution? > > Appreciated! > > -- Daniele Bonini
Taring a "posix problemozauro"..
Hello, I have a folder that - porting things to different destinations - I'm trying to tar here and there. I'm coming from Debian with an #mb file tar and it is all fine. But when it is matter to deliver things from OpenBSD eg. to other live destination taring the same stuff I get the following error: tar: File name too long for ustar "go/Pippo/Pluto_Pluto_Pluto_Pluto/pippo/EN/pippo pippo pippo pippo technical assistance and sale of appliances emergency service throughout the pippo area pippo pippo superpippopippo.com" and these folder and files doesn't comes compressed at all. If I try with the Archive Utility generating the same tar doesn't give me the best result..at all: Archive chooses independently links to transform them in folder further then respecting the folder structures; also double links for the same destination are present in the resulting tar. I'm not sure where is matter of Posix file system restrictions boundaries and when we can talk about "bugs". Archive seems really drunk, Terminal a little less, but doesn't take to any happiness.. Despite any technical hint about OpenBSD.. am I forgetting any compression option for the required resolution? Appreciated! -- Daniele Bonini
Re: Safely remove USB drive
I want to thank you from here for the tour of the usb utils, appreciated.. -- Daniele Bonini Crystal Kolipe wrote: > On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 11:02:14AM -0500, Bryan Steele wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 10:34:07AM -0300, vitmau...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm not using my drives for anything more than copying files, dd > > > etc. I just got curious because you mentioned the act of > > > detaching a device after umounting it and I don't know how to do > > > that on OpenBSD. On Fedora I would issue "udisks --detach > > > /dev/sdX" (older versions) or "udisksctl poweroff -b /dev/sdX" > > > (newer versions). > > > > > > Best, > > > Vitor > > > > Umounting should be good enough, but you can also use eject(1), > > which should have the desired effect, e.g: > > Eject is slightly different. > > When you use eject against an sd device, it's basically setting a > flag that says, 'once any outstanding I/O is finished on this device, > then mark it offline', (I.E. no media present). > > So if you have running, for example: > > # dd if=/dev/rsd1c of=/dev/null bs=1m count=256 & > > and then do an eject from a different terminal, it should let the dd > process complete, and then off-line the device.
Re: DBeaver or similar db tool
Daniele Bonini wrote: > Thanks, I'm just coming from trying to build it I forgot to say that I succeeded to build it by running the process from root. Indeed I managed to overcome my environment problems by some ln to free space.. > NetBeans Ide and the plugins The build created a dir with probably an "indipendent platform" version of plugins (but without eclipse plugin dependencies) + a build version for the three supported platforms (with the eclipse plugin dependencies, but not all!) > I'm going to try out PDT (Eclipse IDE for PHP) and I will update you > soon. Sorry to be so fast with my update.. Damn, where is the source code of Eclipse!? If anyone is able to drive me in to somehow start I could appreciate it.. -- Daniele Bonini
Re: Safely remove USB drive
Paul de Weerd wrote: > and forcibly removing the device is very likely going to lead to > amazing new learning opportunities. I can confirm these statement and I invite you to double check all the "learning opportunities": taken that, by "chance", they are not great happenings brr..than the magic become to attack you there > [1]: Putting swap on removable media is a tremendously bad idea - > don't do it, unless you're keen on those learning opportunities. I can confirm also this one for what I saw a tremendous improvement of performances looking at mfs, if I have taken the goon one.. -- Daniele Bonini
Re: DBeaver or similar db tool
Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2023-02-08, Michael Hekeler wrote: > > As others said before DBeaver is written using Java 17 and maybe > > you can compile it whith OpenJDK 17 and Maven. > > It is, but it's not pure Java, inside some .jars are compiled .so > files (OS-specific "native code"), and there are native binaries > > product/community/target/products/org.jkiss.dbeaver.core.product/linux/gtk/x86_64/dbeaver/dbeaver > product/community/target/products/org.jkiss.dbeaver.core.product/win32/win32/x86_64/dbeaver/dbeaver.exe > product/community/target/products/org.jkiss.dbeaver.core.product/win32/win32/x86_64/dbeaver/dbeaverc.exe > product/community/target/products/org.jkiss.dbeaver.core.product/macosx/cocoa/x86_64/DBeaver.app > > As well as build system changes needed to build OpenBSD binaries, > there are checks inside the code itself for OS type as well as it > does some things slightly differently on Linux which would likely > need patching to also handle OpenBSD. > > I think it's unlikely you are going to run this on OpenBSD without a > fair bit of pain. Thanks, I'm just coming from trying to build it and indeed I obtained some nice binaries for Windowz, Linuz and Big Mac.. and the Plugins for Eclipse. As Omar Polo suggested, the remaining solution is to install it like a plugin. And also here I started from the more difficult road: installing the plugin within Netbeans IDE but I ended unsuccessfully, it depends from a lot of Eclipse plugins itself. I'm going to try out PDT (Eclipse IDE for PHP) and I will update you soon. Meanwhile if you are in the need.. I pass you the binary for Windows. -- Daniele Bonini
Re: DBeaver or similar db tool
Michael Hekeler wrote: >As others said before DBeaver is written using Java 17 and maybe you >cancompile it whith OpenJDK 17 and Maven. >DBeaver is based on Eclipse and it is also available as eclipse plugin. > >Many of these Database GUI's are based on java and so maybe you can >find something you like. Yes, I will probably end to try out PDT and see how is running. >There is also HeiSQL which is written in pascal. Many years ago i >compiled that beast with lazarus and it runs fine ;-) Well, strictly for oldies.. Pascal merit a /myown/postmortem with all the respect due for it userland and what was its educational purpose addressed to me. Talking about the 1986.. >There are PHP based database GUI's. >E.g. there is Adminer. Just one single php file to drop in your >webserver. This is the due tip for everyone. If, frankly speaking.. you are in the need to go mainstream from any prospective that is the way, despite any Java and installation issue. I am curious to come back to the desktop application with reminiscences from SQL Server to see what is the gain in terms "beautiful security" doing this backward physical passage.. from the web, I mean. >But in the end it all depends on what you expect from such a tool. > >From my experience (which you can safely ignore for sure) i can >suggest: >if you really want to use a database then you have to use the tools >provided by this database. >The time learning such all-purpose database management tools is better >invested in learning the quirks of the specific DBMS you want to use. >I find this is true for postgresql, oracle and sql-server. You just mentioned an other important tip for everyone. But for what is my web development principle at time sometimes I neither want to mind that gap..the sufferance between DBMS. In fact one more safe (no driver, no clasess. etc ) solution exists than dbs although not scaling a lot.. at time and it depends from your infrastructure.. Omar Polo wrote: > you need to use a newever version of java. The readme is confusing, > first says jdk 11 and later 17, but is 17 the one really needed. > > I have 17 selected by default since i've added it to my PATH. another > way would be to set JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jdk-17/ (and don't forget to > install the package too.) > > with that, maven finishes to build. I don't have any clue on how to > run this stuff though, so haven't tested. I think (based on some > github comment) that you need to install eclipse and run dbeaver as a > plugin? Thank you Omar for the all the hints. Because my system constraints I switched to my user to compile all DBeavel and finally the installation terminates with this: [INFO] DBeaver CE Standalone 22.3.1-SNAPSHOT .. SKIPPED [INFO] DBeaver P2 Repositories 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT . SKIPPED [INFO] DBeaver CE Repository 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT ... SKIPPED [INFO] DBeaver - Debug support 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT . SKIPPED [INFO] DBeaver - Office support 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT SKIPPED [INFO] DBeaver - SVG support 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT ... SKIPPED [INFO] DBeaver - Git support 1.0.0-SNAPSHOT ... SKIPPED [INFO] [INFO] BUILD FAILURE [INFO] [INFO] Total time: 16:42 min [INFO] Finished at: 2023-02-08T11:08:17+01:00 [INFO] [ERROR] Failed to execute goal org.eclipse.tycho:tycho-packaging-plugin:3.0.1:package-plugin (default-package-plugin) on project org.jkiss.utils: Error assembling JAR: /usr/local/dbeaver/bundles/org.jkiss.utils/target/classes isn't a directory. -> [Help 1] [ERROR] [ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven with the -e switch. [ERROR] Re-run Maven using the -X switch to enable full debug logging. [ERROR] [ERROR] For more information about the errors and possible solutions, please read the following articles: [ERROR] [Help 1] http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/MojoExecutionException [ERROR] [ERROR] After correcting the problems, you can resume the build with the command [ERROR] mvn -rf :org.jkiss.utils I checked the dir /usr/local/dbeaver/bundles/org.jkiss.utils/target/ and in fact doesn't exist. Thanks! -- Daniele Bonini
Re: DBeaver or similar db tool
Just coming from trying DBeaver intall.. cd dbeaver launching `mvn package`: [[ERROR] The build could not read 1 project -> [Help 1] [ERROR] [ERROR] The project org.jkiss.dbeaver:dbeaver:1.0.0-SNAPSHOT (/usr/local/dbeaver/pom.xml) has 1 error [ERROR] Invalid artifact repository: Unable to provision, see the following errors: [ERROR] [ERROR] 1) Error in custom provider, java.lang.TypeNotPresentException: Type org.eclipse.tycho.p2maven.repository.P2ArtifactRepositoryLayout not present [ERROR] at ClassRealm[extension>org.eclipse.tycho:tycho-maven-plugin:3.0.1, parent: jdk.internal.loader.ClassLoaders$AppClassLoader@277050dc] (via modules: org.eclipse.sisu.wire.WireModule -> org.eclipse.sisu.plexus.PlexusBindingModule) [ERROR] while locating org.apache.maven.artifact.repository.layout.ArtifactRepositoryLayout annotated with @com.google.inject.name.Named(value="p2") [ERROR] [ERROR] 1 error: org/eclipse/tycho/p2maven/repository/P2ArtifactRepositoryLayout has been compiled by a more recent version of the Java Runtime (class file version 61.0), this version of the Java Runtime only recognizes class file versions up to 55.0 [ERROR] [ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven with the -e switch. [ERROR] Re-run Maven using the -X switch to enable full debug logging. [ERROR] [ERROR] For more information about the errors and possible solutions, please read the following articles: [ERROR] [Help 1] http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/ProjectBuildingException I see from GitHub the suggestion to pass to the jre folder whatever I need. But soon I realize the depending on jre 11.0.6+8 I miss my jre folder to store in my installation folder. Nevertheless I discover that all the Java jre downloads are flagged Windows/Linux/Mac only. I need an Oracle account registration for the older versions, etc, etc.. All enough straightforward.. Any help? -- Daniele Bonini
Fwd: Take it easy..
Hello, I continue to receive disturbing emails from this guy.Can you take any action, please? Received: from 127.0.0.1 by atlas-production.v2-mail-prod1-gq1.omega.yahoo.com pod-id atlas--production-gq1-854676cb87-k7th2.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 06:37:44 + Return-Path: X-Originating-Ip: [185.63.96.79] Received-SPF: none (domain of stare.cz does not designate permitted sender hosts) Authentication-Results: atlas-production.v2-mail-prod1-gq1.omega.yahoo.com; dkim=unknown; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=stare.cz; dmarc=unknown header.from=stare.cz; X-Apparently-To: my2...@aol.com; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 06:37:44 + X-YMailAVSC: s1kbw4I3bBvDs5jAw5HL0_4iO2hHqiw2vPPYuDmo3uW_nk8 9v4XVgJC0xERKP3blbgQbbOQb61T9q9_FqGoQW2Yaza5PwYA0q9r9qL5pIlj d1kH01kwyuIfeyVvKnXmaCfGno88gr1l9OPrfQeCLZByFenEyytXnEDVA2ux 2xlgBvdldqwDQrz6aX7_54BAp1kI_6rug2RofxugcW_l1459zf5lT_A_t66d gxYQWqP8KGNqEyxwroqLrk6gc3G5ZBAndI6D3Mu6qw89cgqCV6UJro3YrtYF FnVbBvN9xJabXeutFrqKAkkap_G6MPAzJDDdwCNiYxl_jcoJLwhCADbI8v62 pSpSTrhjeAYnTK7QqfDniykFdRYlf6ReP83J.izuAEJIDMRklRdAl99lkoWo DipKuE1aBXd0PgSEs3qnKNtqzKj29_Urf.YzTXDHUx5WoS5SvbeUHa62BrGT VFhcv8bSd5UocoZE_9eZSgDzJ4VQIdbLSLZqzD1rJRJqau6Bs28wGtlhhQ6N RxpO262v1lBckdqhtYvK2AlVCwqgu8ZtNfd_fDcdq.31k_woDk6Lc94Qui16 LaFw3E8dQGDM8QIZppmXw_hURCNZB1ipkz6L5iGdlRWFJB3ogS4tmfvKGSyz wnUcbQaadPTz5SurreJNQIknnCiMuzaiAL7L6I53rC7BPN9mQGnCyMeiJp_n wg71BLZsvw5WC9cbVBBfqQTksJYD8qkxioo1vhMDlK8S92JjsPoTZ1GxqFWj uwh0G25J34jNrKiDbUAjuylnxDT4HdrdtJ9f.iMlbn656dBwXNbkOMcjm1bU D6zSAqghhv_jZ94hGpUPMoyKeXkJdliirMMTOgKVfZYcoJJNLXg0V1L7Tv8f B9ZjetH9akAAeretzKViHDHTHRA3P5oI- X-YMailISG: hYCE02AWLDta8XOPBV8Oop_6N45mMM_rRLvQIzOoox8FDAmY HxxPxkA5Q1M.ZRI.QDA8np8GsZ_0xVM676odDkgZMRs1a7HosanQwyWRMvlH xUe_MKcS69kGvzVIhRxNJIUZuMLHqgwdjflvmI4R7nKvgvdgDHX8cJ_Y3PvB wK0tfYadDAFZDYuR2Aao4vnornoW2TJUSESlTXnDbRLCRxSVg5f.iK4CYKiY 8FkrG2YJLeG3x7oQ4sXedEfd98GbHVl_9LJ1H9xPOzEKKeERr6Kw4e5JWLz9 8tsdr00F.o8Mk06xPzVqgn9Rlx6LpznLANDxnpARmfZDnxT_P.PBqXokzD6G XrjUl.nSpY97RdBYlzKeguNRCkc0Vo7CDEICGre1LmDb7FMSz9DhPv0nDmFr fd8a2F3yebBGMbbpDEu2qxdOkkK3zNZFFJCryVkAYqKfvoPe30keaq.xgvC0 aZYrPF55gDCf87AgisIlhs0eiykqNHhtqQ2dFGc11Q9KgENyJBvZlx_23nVT IOAPP5EfmMwMJRXQ7eMiPXEBcfyRFVjgr_Xz1mb7U3QiUcAaT6Pcoly6MsKO vhIW4nYClcsS1qZmvdFJb2rFqtLemA_jSM_zOxl_w2DgFhRGTxngDoRe.Ex0 Aw2lHMnoc1hc3Y1gK7XQnIwTko5Gi6QkDU_U6frYo2TfgIuJBeRWK6Q3XdV5 rNEnW1.CtvsJrQ8.CNCaJyJMrhfVT59FRMLU74JC4TjFNrbnLM.4We4j85Xu .jdCkNVPt_5oNlzet5jkahEiovL7XLfP3.7rUzRSsfzkun8KbqjmEDs3ZHvY kPka2yHUrkDa7yrVxXM6npxxLpR361uHBboMtmKOfPMPvT7UmSyCVzKPnnUR YN70XdiIU5FGxZdrTewQ1A.wvSUm65leDMNSvrkHBGeA2xYMxDShR_Xuj_tP ssXK_9Ln48Ru3R5YEdOzcDxvjpXnucWmJbe4o3S8Z9vrqPUXnmsIX4iCHRj6 irnB1mY4OY1XKjn9mGSFWKfZWLm.2TF0aaKnt.p2pr6g4ZXzs.NVCsBS3lPO QfuRs5RH8ptmSIaBe6s6D9CXGSB4COCZ Received: from 185.63.96.79 (EHLO mx.stare.cz) by 10.248.198.116 with SMTPs (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256); Tue, 07 Feb 2023 06:37:44 + Received: from localhost (stare.cz [local]) by stare.cz (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id a4d90afb for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 07:37:42 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2023 07:37:42 +0100 From: Jan Stary To: "Daniele B." Subject: Re: Take it easy.. Message-ID: References: <8a7d019e-5eb1-4a58-b124-741be7f69...@aol.com> <20230206224338.l5ycggcmcrlqz...@bluebell.home.arpa> <1138cc2d-298a-4e67-bf59-7dcf7e586...@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1138cc2d-298a-4e67-bf59-7dcf7e586...@aol.com> Content-Length: 2377 Your emails are a complete waste of everyone's time. Go away. On Feb 07 04:37:06, my2...@aol.com wrote: > > > On 23/02/06 19:32, Daniele B. wrote: > >> Remaning on the simplicity to do stuff.. did you ever try: > >> > >> cd /home > >> mkdir 5mode-com > >> mv * 5mode-com/ > >> > >> I get: > >> > >> rename 5mode-com to 5mode-com/5mode-com: invalid argument > > > > That has to do with sh(1) globbing rules. The shell did exactly what you > > told it > > to and expanded _everything_ in the present working directory. Then it > > attempted > > to move all of that inside "5mode-com". But moving a directory inside of > > itself > > is invalid, so it errored. > > > > This happens on Linux too (demonstrated using termux on Android in this > > case, > > but I guarantee you can reproduce this elsewhere). > > > I remember the billboard message that was waving on the Healthrew airport > passengers heads in 2009: "There is no perfection, everyone copy each other." > > The skary part was that it sounded more like a suggestion also that one.. > > Maybe is just your way to let me appear Off Topic... :D > > -- Daniele Bonini > > Feb 6, 2023 23:46:23 Ashlen : > > > On 23/02/06 19:32, Daniele
Re: Live stick / cd from official sources
Thank you for this one. I need to underline that Androd Mail never gave me problems until now, apart your mlists.So this is the right time to pay check: http://5md.at/l/dona1 :-) Just in case, for an additional Android mail client do you have any suggestion apart *Outlook* ? GMX doesnt mail from external accounts, I need almost read receipts, eheh.. -Original Message- From: Stuart Henderson To: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Tue, Jan 31, 2023 1:10 am Subject: Re: Live stick / cd from official sources On 2023-01-30, daniele bonini wrote: > The interesting news is that in to Aol my sent email are saved correctly.So, > the "smart" guy seems scanning your Majordomo instance. The mailing list strips text/html attachments, the text/plain part from your original mail probably has some issues.
Re: Live stick / cd from official sources
Trying from Aol web mail. The interesting news is that in to Aol my sent email are saved correctly.So, the "smart" guy seems scanning your Majordomo instance. -Original Message- From: my25mb To: misc@openbsd.org; owner-m...@openbsd.org Sent: Mon, Jan 30, 2023 10:47 pm Subject: Re: Live stick / cd from official sources Sorry for that. My first message was quite fine and it sounds like someone is addressing my carriage returns on my ip address in a funny way.. I will check this behavior with you and eventually I will limit my posts if I decide to remain in the list. Messaggio originale Da: Jan Stary Data: 30/01/23 21:49 (GMT+01:00) A: my25mb Oggetto: Re: Live stick / cd from official sources On Jan 30 21:18:58, my2...@aol.com wrote: > >I think I can safely say there is no chance whatsoever of OpenBSD >linking > >to third-party builds of the OS.Dissemination prb? I can't really guess > >it :DOk, I did read all your observations and I want to thank you for > >your time.Like an openbsd user I do not think particularly enthusiast of > >your opinion aboutnot having a "rentable" live image to test [openbsd-boot: > >ok] anyway I remain optimist you can change your mind by ie. a sudden > >lightning fingers crossedMeanwhile let's see if this reply is > >readable ;-) No it's not. Fix your email client and/or learn the pucntuation. Don't make it unnecessarily harder to read.
