Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Üwe Cærlyn]

Again, no Gnu-zealots. Others who see the drooltard behaviour, more 
reason to check out what I am doing.


Peaceful Salutations.

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Üwe Cærlyn]

Den 12/9/2017 11:25, skrev Ywe Cærlyn:

Den 12/9/2017 05:21, skrev gwes:

On 12/07/17 07:31, Ywe Cærlyn wrote:
I saw AMDs "semi-custom" CPU email form and told them that I wanted 
a CPU, that is clockspeed oriented, not cores (might aswell be 
singlecore with high HZ), that could be using several instruction 
macros (combining two or three), for max virtual clockspeed, and an 
optimizing compiler for this. And wondered if an additional poweroff 
mode could be added to the binary stream of 1 0, so that bitwise i/o 
and cpu scheduling could be done.


If one could get the virtual clockspeed up to 12ghz, I think no 
regular user would ever use more than a single core. And it´d be a 
megahit.


Fixing all inefficiency hardware wise. Philosophically aswell.

Peaceful Salutations.


CPU clock speed != performance.

Factor in:
    main memory: latency, bus width, and access/cycle time.
    caches: levels, speeds, sizes, widths
    CPU access patterns interacting with the above
    clocks per instruction: average, best case, worst case
    cost or even feasibility of super high CPU clocks
    propagation time of signals across chips

A very fast CPU clock on a CPU with very low clocks-per-instruction
a small die and a huge memory matching speed == the RISC ideal

Even RISC with floating point hardware, for instance, often takes
many cycles.

Adding cores is often seen as the best way of increasing
>system< performance significantly at the lowest cost.

geoff steckel



Risc = reduced instruction set. This would be the other way I guess... 
:) And really keeping a whole bunch of compatibility. To not speak of 
even windows running near hardware realtime.


Peaceful Salutations.

So what you could do is contact AMD aswell through the CUSTOM CPU 
http://www.amd.com/en-us/solutions/semi-custom page
and say you want this cpu. I have called it a "Grand" cpu, and also 
updated my banner on my youtube page with it.


Check it out for a taste of potentially the next internet - Ultranet. 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR3gmLVjHS5A702wo4bol_Q


Peaceful Salutations.

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Anders Andersson]

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 5:21 AM, gwes  wrote:
> On 12/07/17 07:31, Ywe Cærlyn wrote:
>>
>> I saw AMDs "semi-custom" CPU email form and told them that I wanted a CPU,
>> that is clockspeed oriented, not cores (might aswell be singlecore with high
>> HZ), that could be using several instruction macros (combining two or
>> three), for max virtual clockspeed, and an optimizing compiler for this. And
>> wondered if an additional poweroff mode could be added to the binary stream
>> of 1 0, so that bitwise i/o and cpu scheduling could be done.
>>
>> If one could get the virtual clockspeed up to 12ghz, I think no regular
>> user would ever use more than a single core. And it´d be a megahit.
>> [...]
>>
> CPU clock speed != performance.
> [...]
>

You must be new to this thread and/or user. Ywe/Üwe is the biggest
troll this year. Either that, a bot, a mental patient with internet
connection, or an art project. Trying to decode his ramblings will
surely make you insane.

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Ywe Cærlyn]

Den 12/9/2017 05:21, skrev gwes:

On 12/07/17 07:31, Ywe Cærlyn wrote:
I saw AMDs "semi-custom" CPU email form and told them that I wanted a 
CPU, that is clockspeed oriented, not cores (might aswell be 
singlecore with high HZ), that could be using several instruction 
macros (combining two or three), for max virtual clockspeed, and an 
optimizing compiler for this. And wondered if an additional poweroff 
mode could be added to the binary stream of 1 0, so that bitwise i/o 
and cpu scheduling could be done.


If one could get the virtual clockspeed up to 12ghz, I think no 
regular user would ever use more than a single core. And it´d be a 
megahit.


Fixing all inefficiency hardware wise. Philosophically aswell.

Peaceful Salutations.


CPU clock speed != performance.

Factor in:
    main memory: latency, bus width, and access/cycle time.
    caches: levels, speeds, sizes, widths
    CPU access patterns interacting with the above
    clocks per instruction: average, best case, worst case
    cost or even feasibility of super high CPU clocks
    propagation time of signals across chips

A very fast CPU clock on a CPU with very low clocks-per-instruction
a small die and a huge memory matching speed == the RISC ideal

Even RISC with floating point hardware, for instance, often takes
many cycles.

Adding cores is often seen as the best way of increasing
>system< performance significantly at the lowest cost.

geoff steckel



Risc = reduced instruction set. This would be the other way I guess... 
:) And really keeping a whole bunch of compatibility. To not speak of 
even windows running near hardware realtime.


Peaceful Salutations.

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[gwes]

On 12/07/17 07:31, Ywe Cærlyn wrote:
I saw AMDs "semi-custom" CPU email form and told them that I wanted a 
CPU, that is clockspeed oriented, not cores (might aswell be singlecore 
with high HZ), that could be using several instruction macros (combining 
two or three), for max virtual clockspeed, and an optimizing compiler 
for this. And wondered if an additional poweroff mode could be added to 
the binary stream of 1 0, so that bitwise i/o and cpu scheduling could 
be done.


If one could get the virtual clockspeed up to 12ghz, I think no regular 
user would ever use more than a single core. And it´d be a megahit.


Fixing all inefficiency hardware wise. Philosophically aswell.

Peaceful Salutations.


CPU clock speed != performance.

Factor in:
main memory: latency, bus width, and access/cycle time.
caches: levels, speeds, sizes, widths
CPU access patterns interacting with the above
clocks per instruction: average, best case, worst case
cost or even feasibility of super high CPU clocks
propagation time of signals across chips

A very fast CPU clock on a CPU with very low clocks-per-instruction
a small die and a huge memory matching speed == the RISC ideal

Even RISC with floating point hardware, for instance, often takes
many cycles.

Adding cores is often seen as the best way of increasing
>system< performance significantly at the lowest cost.

geoff steckel

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Ywe Cærlyn]

I saw AMDs "semi-custom" CPU email form and told them that I wanted a 
CPU, that is clockspeed oriented, not cores (might aswell be singlecore 
with high HZ), that could be using several instruction macros (combining 
two or three), for max virtual clockspeed, and an optimizing compiler 
for this. And wondered if an additional poweroff mode could be added to 
the binary stream of 1 0, so that bitwise i/o and cpu scheduling could 
be done.


If one could get the virtual clockspeed up to 12ghz, I think no regular 
user would ever use more than a single core. And it´d be a megahit.


Fixing all inefficiency hardware wise. Philosophically aswell.

Peaceful Salutations.

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Üwe Cærlyn]

Ok, I think I´ve finished up most of the philosopical part, of trying to 
commercialize Available Source.
If you have some thing you want to make money on, on the internet you 
too ofcourse can be a Webtechy Of Üddüc. Üddüc is "Thé God", a 
reconstructed concept without the regressions, so one can be as 
mainstream as possible. You already know the morals of this, and I´ve 
also written on my youtube banner, "And a little mindfulness of the 
grandiose paradox, and some charitable activity". These are also needed. 
Basically original religious principles, that makes this work.


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR3gmLVjHS5A702wo4bol_Q

So indeed, if you are sitting there feeling like not making money on the 
business greatest money maker, the IT-industry, you may want to evaluate 
this philosophic angle.


And the villain here is the GNU-Zealot. As known throughout the entire 
World Wide Web. So "No Gnu-Zealots" and "commercial sobriety".


Peaceful Salutations
Üwe Cærlyn.

(reply to me with CC please)

FU: RE: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[leo_tck]

I wrote:

> "Sterling Archer"  wrote:

which sould've been:

> "Ywe Cærlyn"  wrote:

But /thread, really.

 --schaafuit.

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Ywe Cærlyn]

Den 11/26/2017 06:27, skrev leo_...@volny.cz:

"Sterling Archer"  wrote:

P-p-palmleaf schaafuit?

A-a-ask the Catholic church.
 --schaafuit.


Ok I am just going to ignore this thread now. If anyone wants to talk to 
me, maybe better you email me personally.


And again my channel is here: 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR3gmLVjHS5A702wo4bol_Q


"Nodemeister Of Ukkus". And I am working on "commercial sobriety", for 
"available source". And doing related philosophical work.


Peaceful Saluations.

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Ywe Cærlyn]

Den 11/26/2017 06:18, skrev leo_...@volny.cz:

"Ywe Cærlyn"  wrote:

Palmleaf, schaafuit?

Ask the Catholic church.
 --schaafuit.


P-p-palmleaf schaafuit?

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Ywe Cærlyn]

Den 11/26/2017 00:20, skrev leo_...@volny.cz:

"Ywe Cærlyn"  wrote:

Are you deaf and mute, boy? Enigmatic knowledge of backwardness? Fires?
Keep talking and you´ll have that.

At least he won't have hairy palms and baldness.

Unlike you.

Try cabbage leaves for the latter.

 --schaafuit.


Palmleaf, schaafuit?

It's a troll! (Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.)

[leo_tck]

Okay folks, it's a troll alright.

/thread.

--schaafuit.

RE: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[leo_tck]

"Sterling Archer"  wrote:
> P-p-palmleaf schaafuit?

A-a-ask the Catholic church.
--schaafuit.

RE: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[leo_tck]

"Ywe Cærlyn"  wrote:
> Palmleaf, schaafuit?

Ask the Catholic church.
--schaafuit.

RE: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[leo_tck]

"Ywe Cærlyn"  wrote:
> Are you deaf and mute, boy? Enigmatic knowledge of backwardness? Fires?
> Keep talking and you´ll have that.

At least he won't have hairy palms and baldness.

Unlike you.

Try cabbage leaves for the latter.

--schaafuit.

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Ywe Cærlyn]

Are you deaf and mute, boy? Enigmatic knowledge of backwardness? Fires? 
Keep talking and you´ll have that.



Den 11/26/2017 00:10, skrev flipchan:

Be fkn simple
1:what do you want
2: why is it openbsd related ?

On November 25, 2017 5:51:45 PM GMT+01:00, "Ywe Cærlyn" 
 wrote:


The thread descends into Querulus Paranoid state after a simple
introduction? Not good.

My profile on my youtube channel is about me, for those wanting to know
me, and there will be more content there, full audio/video media wise,
since I am indeed trying to do what I am saying. And which also says "No
GNU-Zealots".

I changed name from the amigamusician-bit related name to "Nodemeister
Of Üccüg" aswell.

Particulary something I am thinking about ATM, is optimal
respresentation of pixels, pr pixel, thinking of screen rendering and
things like that, and using graphics hardware for something useful. Not
games.

So if anyone wants to do some benignant hacking, my suggestion is to
implement a mode like this, in the relelvant area of work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dx6dbiTm8w

Peaceful Salutations.


--
Take Care Sincerely flipchan layerprox dev 

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[flipchan]

Be fkn simple 
1:what do you want 
2: why is it openbsd related ?

On November 25, 2017 5:51:45 PM GMT+01:00, "Ywe Cærlyn"  
wrote:
>The thread descends into Querulus Paranoid state after a simple 
>introduction? Not good.
>
>My profile on my youtube channel is about me, for those wanting to know
>
>me, and there will be more content there, full audio/video media wise, 
>since I am indeed trying to do what I am saying. And which also says
>"No 
>GNU-Zealots".
>
>I changed name from the amigamusician-bit related name to "Nodemeister 
>Of Üccüg" aswell.
>
>Particulary something I am thinking about ATM, is optimal 
>respresentation of pixels, pr pixel, thinking of screen rendering and 
>things like that, and using graphics hardware for something useful. Not
>
>games.
>
>So if anyone wants to do some benignant hacking, my suggestion is to 
>implement a mode like this, in the relelvant area of work: 
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dx6dbiTm8w
>
>Peaceful Salutations.

-- 
Take Care Sincerely flipchan layerprox dev

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Ywe Cærlyn]

The thread descends into Querulus Paranoid state after a simple 
introduction? Not good.


My profile on my youtube channel is about me, for those wanting to know 
me, and there will be more content there, full audio/video media wise, 
since I am indeed trying to do what I am saying. And which also says "No 
GNU-Zealots".


I changed name from the amigamusician-bit related name to "Nodemeister 
Of Üccüg" aswell.


Particulary something I am thinking about ATM, is optimal 
respresentation of pixels, pr pixel, thinking of screen rendering and 
things like that, and using graphics hardware for something useful. Not 
games.


So if anyone wants to do some benignant hacking, my suggestion is to 
implement a mode like this, in the relelvant area of work: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dx6dbiTm8w


Peaceful Salutations.

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Eivind Eide]

>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Ywe Cærlyn 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Well I have introduced myself then.
>> >

To make it clear: No name anywhere like the probably pure fantasy name
of this specimen have ever been held by any human, pixie, faery, troll
or any other entity in Norway, nor in any other scandinavian or nordic
country.



-- 



Eivind Eide

"ONLY THOSE WHO ATTEMPT THE IMPOSSIBLE WILL ACHIEVE THE ABSURD"
- Oceania Association of Autonomous Astronauts

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[x9p]

3rd

> second that ...
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Christer Solskogen <
> christer.solsko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Ywe Cærlyn 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Well I have introduced myself then.
>> >
>> > Maybe I will write some more posts at a later time.
>> >
>> >
>> I have a suggestion. Don't.
>>
>> --
>> chs
>>
>

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[rizz2pro .]

SOUL OF ROOT 55

Is that you???

On Nov 7, 2017 11:52 AM, "Base Pr1me"  wrote:

> second that ...
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Christer Solskogen <
> christer.solsko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Ywe Cærlyn  wrote:
> >
> > > Well I have introduced myself then.
> > >
> > > Maybe I will write some more posts at a later time.
> > >
> > >
> > I have a suggestion. Don't.
> >
> > --
> > chs
> >
>

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Base Pr1me]

second that ...

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Christer Solskogen <
christer.solsko...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Ywe Cærlyn  wrote:
>
> > Well I have introduced myself then.
> >
> > Maybe I will write some more posts at a later time.
> >
> >
> I have a suggestion. Don't.
>
> --
> chs
>

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Christer Solskogen]

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Ywe Cærlyn  wrote:

> Well I have introduced myself then.
>
> Maybe I will write some more posts at a later time.
>
>
I have a suggestion. Don't.

-- 
chs

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Ywe Cærlyn]

Well I have introduced myself then.

Maybe I will write some more posts at a later time.

Peaceful Salutations.

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[BergenBergen BergenBergen]

Your name is not Norwegian. What's going on here?

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Stuart Henderson 
wrote:

> On 2017-11-07, Ywe Cærlyn  wrote:
>
> I hate replying to a post about licenses, but you're missing something
> fundamental here...
>
> >The real song
> > of the GNU licence is this. And "thou shall make no money".
>
> Not at all. It is perfectly allowed to charge money for GPL software.
> You just have to provide an offer of the source code *to people who you
> have given the binaries to*. (Sure, they can then pass this on to other
> people. But you can also have e.g. copyrighted documentation without
> which the code is not really very useful. Or maybe those people won't
> want to hand it out for free anyway).
>
> GPL is also used by some as some kind of "free trial" of commercial
> libraries (especially happens with crypto, it seems). You're allowed to
> use them as part of your software, but if you want to distribute as
> closed-source, you'll then need to arrange a commercial license instead.
>
> The complexity of it is also a good way for copyright/license lawyers
> to make money too, of course.
>
>
>

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Stuart Henderson]

On 2017-11-07, Ywe Cærlyn  wrote:

I hate replying to a post about licenses, but you're missing something
fundamental here...

>The real song 
> of the GNU licence is this. And "thou shall make no money".

Not at all. It is perfectly allowed to charge money for GPL software.
You just have to provide an offer of the source code *to people who you
have given the binaries to*. (Sure, they can then pass this on to other
people. But you can also have e.g. copyrighted documentation without
which the code is not really very useful. Or maybe those people won't
want to hand it out for free anyway).

GPL is also used by some as some kind of "free trial" of commercial
libraries (especially happens with crypto, it seems). You're allowed to
use them as part of your software, but if you want to distribute as
closed-source, you'll then need to arrange a commercial license instead.

The complexity of it is also a good way for copyright/license lawyers
to make money too, of course.

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Eric Furman]

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 06:13 AM, mich...@hekeler.com wrote:
> This seems to be a very technically orientated and serious discussion.
> ‎Chapeau, Mr. Ywe Cærlyn!
> 

God Bless Norway!

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[michael]

This seems to be a very technically orientated and serious discussion.
‎Chapeau, Mr. Ywe Cærlyn!

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Eric Furman]

Oh, one more thing. The joke threads are supposed to
be reserved for Fridays. Since you're new you probably
didn't know that.

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017, at 12:04 AM, Eric Furman wrote:
> OK, my understanding of English must be broken because
> I do not understand any of this.
> I just wanted to warn you off starting any discussions about
> BSD vs GNU licensing schemes. Are minds are closed on
> this topic.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 11:44 PM, Ywe Cærlyn wrote:
> > So archaically speaking, that is your biggest security issue right there.
> > For instance, if you eat much kebabs, your stomach sings The Quran, and 
> > unfortunately "Mohammed and the companions".
> > If you eat much pizza, it sings The Bible, and "Jesus died for your
> > sins".
> > Now to equalize this, and get Transcendent Truth, for each 3 pizzas, eat 
> > 1 kebab.
> > And you are archaically correct. - There is just one deity, as all 
> > original monotheism teaches. Then you should be at security with The 
> > Chief, justice prevail, and obtuseness conquered.
> > 
> > Peace.
> > 
> > Den 11/7/2017 05:10, skrev Ywe Cærlyn:
> > > As opposed to say, if you have ever had a moment of Mindful Zen, and 
> > > thought of Transcendent Trueness. It is a "song" a bit more like 
> > > "OpenBSD" and "3-clause licence". In other words, 1:1 reality. ;) That 
> > > is why I got interested in OpenBSD instead.
> > >
> > > Peace.
> > >
> > > Den 11/7/2017 04:49, skrev Ywe Cærlyn:
> > >> Yes. I actually had a look a linux earlier. And found for instance a 
> > >> 10ms filter in cpu measurement. I mean, then you haven´t really 
> > >> understood what available resources in a computer is.. And in for 
> > >> instance the LADSPA plugins, is tons of pointer variables. The real 
> > >> song of the GNU licence is this. And "thou shall make no money". That 
> > >> is why it is really going nowhere. WIth the 2 clause licence, you 
> > >> hear a little bit of that song.. Just a warning, from someone who has 
> > >> seen real obtusity in code.
> > >>
> > >> Den 11/7/2017 02:57, skrev Eric Furman:
> > >>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 03:28 PM, Ywe Cærlyn wrote:
> > >>>
> >  First contribution: You should focus on the 3-clause licence. The two
> >  2-clause tries to be GNU, and that is a mistake I think.
> > >>> OK, you had me up till here and then this 'Contribution".
> > >>> Is this an attempt at humor? Last time I checked all of the
> > >>> GNU licenses were about 14 pages long of legalese.
> > >>> How is the simpler shorter 2 clause license more like GNU?
> > >>> Sounds like a troll...
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > 
> 

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Eric Furman]

OK, my understanding of English must be broken because
I do not understand any of this.
I just wanted to warn you off starting any discussions about
BSD vs GNU licensing schemes. Are minds are closed on
this topic.

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 11:44 PM, Ywe Cærlyn wrote:
> So archaically speaking, that is your biggest security issue right there.
> For instance, if you eat much kebabs, your stomach sings The Quran, and 
> unfortunately "Mohammed and the companions".
> If you eat much pizza, it sings The Bible, and "Jesus died for your
> sins".
> Now to equalize this, and get Transcendent Truth, for each 3 pizzas, eat 
> 1 kebab.
> And you are archaically correct. - There is just one deity, as all 
> original monotheism teaches. Then you should be at security with The 
> Chief, justice prevail, and obtuseness conquered.
> 
> Peace.
> 
> Den 11/7/2017 05:10, skrev Ywe Cærlyn:
> > As opposed to say, if you have ever had a moment of Mindful Zen, and 
> > thought of Transcendent Trueness. It is a "song" a bit more like 
> > "OpenBSD" and "3-clause licence". In other words, 1:1 reality. ;) That 
> > is why I got interested in OpenBSD instead.
> >
> > Peace.
> >
> > Den 11/7/2017 04:49, skrev Ywe Cærlyn:
> >> Yes. I actually had a look a linux earlier. And found for instance a 
> >> 10ms filter in cpu measurement. I mean, then you haven´t really 
> >> understood what available resources in a computer is.. And in for 
> >> instance the LADSPA plugins, is tons of pointer variables. The real 
> >> song of the GNU licence is this. And "thou shall make no money". That 
> >> is why it is really going nowhere. WIth the 2 clause licence, you 
> >> hear a little bit of that song.. Just a warning, from someone who has 
> >> seen real obtusity in code.
> >>
> >> Den 11/7/2017 02:57, skrev Eric Furman:
> >>> On Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 03:28 PM, Ywe Cærlyn wrote:
> >>>
>  First contribution: You should focus on the 3-clause licence. The two
>  2-clause tries to be GNU, and that is a mistake I think.
> >>> OK, you had me up till here and then this 'Contribution".
> >>> Is this an attempt at humor? Last time I checked all of the
> >>> GNU licenses were about 14 pages long of legalese.
> >>> How is the simpler shorter 2 clause license more like GNU?
> >>> Sounds like a troll...
> >>>
> >>
> >
> 

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Ywe Cærlyn]

So archaically speaking, that is your biggest security issue right there.
For instance, if you eat much kebabs, your stomach sings The Quran, and 
unfortunately "Mohammed and the companions".

If you eat much pizza, it sings The Bible, and "Jesus died for your sins".
Now to equalize this, and get Transcendent Truth, for each 3 pizzas, eat 
1 kebab.
And you are archaically correct. - There is just one deity, as all 
original monotheism teaches. Then you should be at security with The 
Chief, justice prevail, and obtuseness conquered.


Peace.

Den 11/7/2017 05:10, skrev Ywe Cærlyn:
As opposed to say, if you have ever had a moment of Mindful Zen, and 
thought of Transcendent Trueness. It is a "song" a bit more like 
"OpenBSD" and "3-clause licence". In other words, 1:1 reality. ;) That 
is why I got interested in OpenBSD instead.


Peace.

Den 11/7/2017 04:49, skrev Ywe Cærlyn:
Yes. I actually had a look a linux earlier. And found for instance a 
10ms filter in cpu measurement. I mean, then you haven´t really 
understood what available resources in a computer is.. And in for 
instance the LADSPA plugins, is tons of pointer variables. The real 
song of the GNU licence is this. And "thou shall make no money". That 
is why it is really going nowhere. WIth the 2 clause licence, you 
hear a little bit of that song.. Just a warning, from someone who has 
seen real obtusity in code.


Den 11/7/2017 02:57, skrev Eric Furman:

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 03:28 PM, Ywe Cærlyn wrote:


First contribution: You should focus on the 3-clause licence. The two
2-clause tries to be GNU, and that is a mistake I think.

OK, you had me up till here and then this 'Contribution".
Is this an attempt at humor? Last time I checked all of the
GNU licenses were about 14 pages long of legalese.
How is the simpler shorter 2 clause license more like GNU?
Sounds like a troll...

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Ywe Cærlyn]

As opposed to say, if you have ever had a moment of Mindful Zen, and 
thought of Transcendent Trueness. It is a "song" a bit more like 
"OpenBSD" and "3-clause licence". In other words, 1:1 reality. ;) That 
is why I got interested in OpenBSD instead.


Peace.

Den 11/7/2017 04:49, skrev Ywe Cærlyn:
Yes. I actually had a look a linux earlier. And found for instance a 
10ms filter in cpu measurement. I mean, then you haven´t really 
understood what available resources in a computer is.. And in for 
instance the LADSPA plugins, is tons of pointer variables. The real 
song of the GNU licence is this. And "thou shall make no money". That 
is why it is really going nowhere. WIth the 2 clause licence, you hear 
a little bit of that song.. Just a warning, from someone who has seen 
real obtusity in code.


Den 11/7/2017 02:57, skrev Eric Furman:

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 03:28 PM, Ywe Cærlyn wrote:


First contribution: You should focus on the 3-clause licence. The two
2-clause tries to be GNU, and that is a mistake I think.

OK, you had me up till here and then this 'Contribution".
Is this an attempt at humor? Last time I checked all of the
GNU licenses were about 14 pages long of legalese.
How is the simpler shorter 2 clause license more like GNU?
Sounds like a troll...

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Ywe Cærlyn]

Yes. I actually had a look a linux earlier. And found for instance a 
10ms filter in cpu measurement. I mean, then you haven´t really 
understood what available resources in a computer is.. And in for 
instance the LADSPA plugins, is tons of pointer variables. The real song 
of the GNU licence is this. And "thou shall make no money". That is why 
it is really going nowhere. WIth the 2 clause licence, you hear a little 
bit of that song.. Just a warning, from someone who has seen real 
obtusity in code.


Den 11/7/2017 02:57, skrev Eric Furman:

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 03:28 PM, Ywe Cærlyn wrote:


First contribution: You should focus on the 3-clause licence. The two
2-clause tries to be GNU, and that is a mistake I think.

OK, you had me up till here and then this 'Contribution".
Is this an attempt at humor? Last time I checked all of the
GNU licenses were about 14 pages long of legalese.
How is the simpler shorter 2 clause license more like GNU?
Sounds like a troll...

Re: Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Eric Furman]

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017, at 03:28 PM, Ywe Cærlyn wrote:

> First contribution: You should focus on the 3-clause licence. The two 
> 2-clause tries to be GNU, and that is a mistake I think.

OK, you had me up till here and then this 'Contribution".
Is this an attempt at humor? Last time I checked all of the
GNU licenses were about 14 pages long of legalese. 
How is the simpler shorter 2 clause license more like GNU?
Sounds like a troll...

Hellos from the Lands of Norway.

[Ywe Cærlyn]

Hello. I am Ywe Cærlyn, also known as Biit. Previously also Bit in 
Norway, and added an i to the nick for international long i, as in Norway.


I have a youtube channel here, where I do related videos: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OHkbQM5GKQ


I am a new user of OpenBSD, and like minimal jitter kernel 
configs/programming, and Sensible Themes. I have already done a theme 
for Milkytracker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMfWsx3JBUg


And I also do DSP programming, and ultimately will port these. See also 
my channel for remasters and remixes with these. And also plan to do 
ultranet.life, when I get the time.


First contribution: You should focus on the 3-clause licence. The two 
2-clause tries to be GNU, and that is a mistake I think.


I also am fond of the emerging fine granulated internet economics, which 
I think comes from a similar mindset.


Any questions comments, send away. (Please CC me for fastest reply).

Peace.