date:20090116

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*FriendsIn our current economic situation, every little thing we buy or
do affects someone else and perhaps even their job*
*so after reading this email ... I think this lady is on the right track.
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"Hi friends,

This may seem like a funny email but I was so surprised by what I
discovered  I had to share it with you.
When I think of the job situation in this country, I can't help but think
this helps in some small way.
 I don't know how many households there are in the U.S. but if these were
the only things we bought think of the impact

(She wrote:)
This past weekend I was at Kroger. I needed 60 W light bulbs and
Bounce dryer sheets. I was in the light bulb aisle and right next to the GE
brand I normally buy was an off brand labeled "Everyday Value." I picked up
both types of bulbs and compared the stats - they were the same except for
the price. The GE bulbs were more money than the Everyday Value brand but
the thing that surprised me the most was the fact that GE was made in MEXICO
and the Everyday Value brand was made in - get ready for this - the USA .
So throw out the myth that you cannot find products you use every day that
are made right here - from a company in Cleveland OH !
So on to another aisle - Bounce Dryer Sheetsyep you guessed it Bounce
was more money and made in Canada, the Everyday Value brand was less money
and MADE IN THE USA!  I did laundry yesterday and the dryer sheets performed
just like the Bounce Free I have been using for years and at almost half the
price!

So my challenge to you is to start reading the labels when you shop for
everyday things and see what you can find that is made in the USA - the job
you save may be your own or your neighbors!

If you accept the challenge, pass this on to others in your address book so
we can all start buying American, one light bulb at a time!
Besides, you might save a little green in the process.

Stop buying from China ..

We should have awakened  a decade ago..

lets get with the program  help our fellow Americans keep their jobs ...
and create more jobs here in the U.S.A.
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Re: [ronpaul-29] Be prepared for the unexpected

Jerry
I personally know judges and one Judge is like a brother.
We have been friends for years. I have a key to his house in my pocket.
From a friend to a friend for a friend.
Steve Helmes is the man that sets up appointments for criminals or
accidents, stuff like that. The Docket. He plans today what Judge will hear
what case
and sets the time and the lawyers and clients and Judge to be on the bench at
the same time.
Well. Long to short because I don't have all day.
In the morning Steve will get 5. 6. 7. Phone calls. One lawyer has an ingrain
toe nail and can't show up. Another; the client got sick or Mom is not
felling good and can't make it. The people in jail can't even make it to stand
before the judge. Sometimes the Judge gets sick. Calls in at 8;30 Steve is
standing
in the halls with his teeth in his mouth. Some judges has gone in to work
only to find that every thing has canceled for the day. My Judge friend go'en
fishing just to kill some time until 3;30 case is to be heard only to be ca
nceled. Lets go eat. Cool.
Do you have the idea now.
Some lawyers play this game until they get the case dismissed just to get it
off the docket.
Steve has a big job.
Like if I set it up for everyone in this group to be on stage with song book
in hand at 1;00 tomorrow . How many do you think you could trust would show.
Larry No Shows Melton

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jb...@mchsi.com writes:

A large, large, large part of our problem is in the so called "Justice
System" and all that goes with that. Until people are willing enough to find
out
just what is taking place behind the general public, we will continue to have
problems.

Jerry

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Re: "Cracker Barrel on KTTS"--One cent sales tax

 
Somebody tell Greg Burris that the State law will not let him ask for two 
cents even if he could coerces Council to support him.
Burris is stumping around town and on TV like he don't have to ask Council to 
do these things he is threatening to do if we don't vote for his one cent tax 
idea. WoW. I wish I had that much education to think of a grand idea like 
that.
I have sent Greg several emails of how he can fix this problem and move 
Springfield's budget into the black. He answers. OK. I Will. In one email.
I give up. You have convinced me. In another. He don't write as well as he 
talks.
Larry Coerces Council Melton
 
In a message dated 1/16/2009 5:23:20 PM Central Standard Time, 
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Here is a note I received from Cracker Barrel.  This will be this Sunday 
morning (Jan. 18th). 
Cracker Barrel 
Call (417)577-7000 
7:00-9:00am Sundays 
--Glenn 
___ 
Bill Cantrell sent a message to the members of Cracker Barrel on KTTS. 
 
Subject: Cracker Barrel this wekend. 
An invitation to tune in to Cracker Barrel from 7am to 9am Sunday morning on 
KTTS 94.7 FM or at KTTS.com. My special guest this week will be Springfield 
Assistant Fire Chief David Hall who will talk about the proposed one cent sales 
tax that would support the police and firefighter's pension fund. Listen in 
and call with your questions/opinions. Thank you for being part of the Cracker 
Barrel Facebook group! Invite your friends!! 
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Re: [ronpaul-29] In this MegaVote for Missouri's 7th Congressional District:

NOW. Someone got the point.
When a Government set wages you are not free and it aint America anymore.
Can you think of countries that do this today. Dose Cuba Cross your mind.
Larry Got the Point Melton

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On Jan 14, 2009, at 08:18, tom wrote:

> Since when or where in the Constitution does the government set  
> wages for any industry, never mind the power grab of the minimum wage

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Re: [ronpaul-29] Be prepared for the unexpected

Everyone in my hood has a dog. We all know our dogs and the guy next door. We
understand the dog alert barks and visitor barks and just confused barks.
You ever have the neighbors dog go nuts bark'en about something that you
understand aint right. Then your dog chimes in and it grows down the road.
You know that something com'eth. Or you got your head up your butt and just
think it is annoying.
I have a Boston Terrier that will let you come in the house if I first
introduce him to YOU.
Not you to HIM. If you are not excepted and he don't think you came to play
with him. You may need another pair of pants handy.
My neighbor to the East walked up on me and my dog playing in the yard one
day and said in a loud voice Larry ! He was not introduced. My dog jumped into
his face so fast that I had no time to grab him. knocked his glasses off and
just missed removing his nose. I had just enough time to shout to my dog it is
Glenn.
The raid stopped as fast as it started. Keep one in your yard or in the house.
They can create interference long enough to get to your hard ware.
Larry Hard Ware Melton

In a message dated 1/16/2009 10:18:54 PM Central Standard Time,
jb...@mchsi.com writes:

I have ran a neighborhood watch group, the biggest problem you will have is
getting people to take the hours that really need the watch, most want to do
early times and go home and get a good nights rest, so you end up with only one
or two people doing the late hours and that gets old real fast. You also have
to understand that unless you get the support of the police, anything you do
may work against you and favor the perps.

Jerry

Re: [ronpaul-29] Be prepared for the unexpected

 
O.Boy.
Officers in K.C can't get to the scene fast enouhg many times they show up 
long after the heat has cooled down. Most people involved are on the other side 
of town.
No Body know what or who they are talking about. What Cat? 
Me No See Your Cat. !
Do you get my drift now?
Larry What Cat Melton
 
In a message dated 1/16/2009 9:06:45 PM Central Standard Time, 
meekandmil...@yahoo.com writes:

I haven't lived in Springfield for a few years. I've been a police officer 
and have a criminal justice degree. I don't know what SPD clearance rate is or 
their availability of officers. Over 80% of crimes do not present enough leads/ 
evidence to pursue a crime.  the national clearance rate ( crimes that are 
solved) Is less than 20%.


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Dear Reader:

Dear Reader:

You didn't hear about it on the evening news or read about it on the front
page of The New York Times, but just a few days ago, the Obama Administration
announced a plan to completely decimate and destroy our Armed Forces!

To put it in the words of Robert Gibbs, Barack Obama's incoming Press
Secretary, when the question was posed to him:

"You don't hear a politician give a one- word answer much, but it's yes."

But Obama's NOT calling it a "reduction in force," nor is he giving ANY
indication that the REAL AGENDA is the wholesale destruction of our military.
The
pending decimation is being deceptively pitched to the American public as a
plan to end the military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell Policy."

Complementing Obama's efforts, California Representative Ellen Tauscher
recently told the press that she plans to immediately re-introduce her
deceptively
titled legislation, the Military Readiness Enhancement Act (MREA).

Of course MREA, in actuality, DOES NOT EVEN ADDRESS MILITARY READINESS.

The language and purpose of the legislation - which had 148 far-left
co-sponsors in the House of Representatives during the last session of
Congress, but
thankfully died in committee - is geared EXCLUSIVELY toward promoting open
homosexuality in the Armed Forces!

Tauscher recently told reporters she is rushing this legislation because:

"We shouldn't be forcing good men and women out of military service."

But Tauscher is either totally blinded by her far-left ideological worldview
or is simply lying outright because MREA would do just the opposite - MREA
WOULD FORCE GOOD MEN AND WOMEN OUT OF THE SERVICE!

Tauscher and the Obama Administration must be aware of a recent poll by The
Military Times that poses the question; "If the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy
is overturned and gays are allowed to serve openly, how would you respond?"

According to the poll, a full 24 percent of respondents said they would not
re-enlist or consider not re-enlisting!

That's significant!

If those numbers hold constant for all the men and women presently wearing
a uniform (and there is absolutely no reason to believe they would not), the
10 percent of those in the poll who indicated that they would definitely NOT
re- enlist - would EXCEED the number of those serving on active duty in the
United States Marine Corp.

If the remaining 14 percent who said they would consider not re-enlisting are
added into the mix, the number could approach the number of troops presently
serving on active-duty in the United States Army!

You can STOP this unholy alliance between Barack Hussein Obama, those who
hate America and our men and women in uniform, and the radical homosexual
movement.

But we must act today!
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Pocket Taser Stun Gun

Pocket Taser Stun Gun, a great gift for the wife. A guy who purchased his 
lovely wife a pocket Taser 
for their anniversary submitted this:
Last weekend I saw something at Larry's Pistol & Pawn Shop that sparked my 
interest.. The occasion
was our 15th anniversary and I was looking for a little something extra for 
my wife Julie.   
What I came across was a 100,000-volt, pocket/purse-sized taser. The effects 
of the taser were 
supposed to be short lived, with no long-term adverse affect on your 
assailant, allowing her adequate
time to retreat to safety?? 
WAY TOO COOL!
Long story short, I bought the device and brought it home. I loaded two AAA 
batteries in the darn 
thing and pushed the button.
Nothing! I was disappointed.   
I learned, however, that if I pushed the button AND pressed it against a 
metal surface at the same 
time; I'd get the blue arc of electricity darting back and forth between the 
prongs.
AWESOME!!! 
Unfortunately, I have yet to explain to Julie what that burn spot is on the 
face of her microwave. 
Okay, so I was home alone with this new toy, thinking to myself that it 
couldn't be all that bad with 
only two triple-A batteries, right?
There I sat in my recliner, my cat Gracie looking on intently (trusting 
little soul) while I was reading 
the directions and thinking that I really needed to try this thing out on a 
flesh & blood moving target.  
I must admit I thought about zapping Gracie (for a fraction of a second) and 
thought better of it. 
She is such a sweet cat.   
But, if I was going to give this thing to my wife to protect herself against 
a mugger, I did want 
some assurance that it would work as advertised.
Am I wrong? 
So, there I sat in a pair of shorts and a tank top with my reading glasses 
perched delicately on the
bridge of my nose, directions in one hand, and taser in a nother. 
The directions said that a one-second burst would shock and disorient your 
assailant; a two-second 
burst was supposed to cause muscle spasms and a major loss of bodily control; 
a three-second burst 
would purportedly make your assailant flop on the ground like a fish out of 
water. Any burst longer 
than three seconds would be wasting the batteries. 
All the while I'm looking at this little device measuring about 5' long, less 
than 3/4 inch in   
circumference; pretty cute really and (loaded with two itsy, bitsy triple-A 
batteries) thinking 
to  myself, 'no possible way!' 
What happened next is almost beyond description, but I'll do my best...?

I'm sitting there alone, Gracie looking on with her head cocked to one side 
as to say, 
'don't do it dipshit,' reasoning that a one second burst from such a tiny 
little ole thing couldn't 
hurt all that bad.   
I decided to give myself a one second burst just for heck of it. I touched 
the prongs to my naked 
thigh, pushed the button, and . . . HOLY MOTHER OF GOD . . . WEAPONS OF MASS 
DESTRUCTION . . . 
WHAT THE HELL!!!
I'm pretty sure Jessie Ventura ran in through the side door, picked me up in 
the recliner, then body 
slammed us both on the carpet, over and over and over again.  
I vaguely recall waking up on my side in the fetal position, with tears in my 
eyes, body soaking wet,
both nipples on fire, testicles nowhere to be found, with my left arm tucked 
under my body in the 
oddest position, and tingling in my legs? 
The cat was making meowing sounds I had never heard before, clinging to a 
picture frame hanging 
above the fireplace, obviously in an attempt to avoid getting slammed by my 
body flopping all over 
the living room.
Note: If you ever feel compelled to 'mug' yourself with a taser, one note of 
caution: there is no such 
thing as a one second burst when you zap yourself! 
You will not let go of that thing until it is dislodged from your hand by a 
violent thrashing about 
on the floor.. A three second burst would be considered conservative? 
SON-OF-A-BITCH, THAT HURT LIKE HELL!!!
A minute or so later (I can't be sure, as time was a relative thing at that 
point), I collected my wits 
(what little I had left), sat up and surveyed the landscape.  
My bent reading glasses were on the mantel of the fireplace.  The recliner 
was upside down and 
about 8 feet or so from where it originally was.  My triceps, right thigh and 
both nipples were still 
twitching.   
My face felt like it had been shot up with Novocain, and my bottom lip 
weighed 88 lbs. 
I had no control over the drooling. 
Apparently I shit myself, but was too numb to know for sure and my sense of 
smell was gone. 
I saw a faint smoke cloud above my head which I believe came from my hair.
 
I'm still looking for my nuts and I'm offering a significant reward for their 
safe return!! 
P. S. My wife loved the gift, and now regularly threatens me with it! 
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Re: [ronpaul-29] In this MegaVote for Missouri's 7th Congressional District:

I personally have a large business that I would love to start up but I will 
not do it as long as the IRS is in business in America. I can't wait to see how 
they plan to tax Gravity.
Larry Horizontal Engird Accelerator Melton

The middle name is my business name.

In a message dated 1/16/2009 7:20:42 PM Central Standard Time, 
evou...@pobox.com writes:

On Jan 14, 2009, at 08:31, tom wrote:

> If the minimum wage would disappear, thus this would also limit the  
> power of unions, you would see prices of products plummeting and  
> people being able to afford the items which are needed to survive

And small businesses would have an easier time hiring people for odd  
jobs, so unemployment would drop sharply. So would the need to hire  
so many illegals. If I am going to break the law by paying someone $4  
an hour, why not pay an alien who cannot complain to the law?

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Re: [ronpaul-29] I am getting my LAWYER a DOG today

 
In a message dated 1/16/2009 8:31:14 PM Central Standard Time, 
evou...@pobox.com writes:

On Jan 16, 2009, at 13:12, Larry wrote:

> “[A]nimals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as  
> their representatives, to prevent violations of current law … Any  
> animals that are entitled to bring suit would be represented by  
> (human) counsel, who would owe guardian like obligations and make  
> decisions, subject to those obligations, on their clients’ behalf.”
> It doesn't end there. Sunstein

This goes back to an old essay "Do Trees Have Standing?" (Christopher  
Stone)


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Re: [ronpaul-29] Be prepared for the unexpected

 
Some of you may believe this crap but I aint in.
Look. If you can remember when you were in school. Can you remember that far ?
If Miss Huckelbuck stepped out of the room for two minutes things started 
humming. tThree minutes and things liven up. four minutes and some start 
standing 
up. Throwing things. Now more get into it and five minutes without law and 
order or guidance the class will implode or explode. Try that test or study 
sometime. If you are in the mind to not work but to take from the people that 
do 
work and you have a friend that tells you that this HOOD is open for business. 
What'Ch Ya gon'A do.
When They Come For You ? Who Ya Gon'A Call? I aint talking about Officers.
Build it and they will come. Ask Hammonds.
Not only this. If you know for dang sure thier aint any officers setting 
behind a Bill Bord Mic Ro'en your speed in the mornning will you give a crap 
about 
the 25 mph posted limit? NO. Crap NO ! You must know better then this?
I have been in Kansas City where you are talking about and 8 to 10 people are 
muged or killed about every day. It realy don't make a dang if a officer is 
close or not. They just mug your crap for drug money. Don't go there and try my 
word.
 I went into an area in K.C and stopped for a stop sign one time. When I 
pulled away form the intersection I had been boarded by four black men. Trying 
to 
get inside my truck. If you think I believe this study. I am sorry that I have 
misslead you to think I am a dumb ass.
Larry Come For You Melton
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On Jan 16, 2009, at 17:05, Jeff wrote:
> According to the KC experiment that was conducted. Police presents  
> have very little to do with crime. The experiment took all police  
> officers out of an area and a police only responded to that area  
> when a call for service. The crime rate did not change. If you got  
> enough police to answer calls, you have enough police.
> http://www.policefoundation.org/docs/kansas.html


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Re: [ronpaul-29] Be prepared for the unexpected

I am the Neighborhood Watch Captain in the Harrison Street Neighborhood.
Tom Martz is the Watch Captain in His Neighborhood. Fred Ellison Is watch
captain in Grant Beach.
We are organized somewhat and have meet up and cook outs and a list of phone
numbers of everyone in the hood. If I see someone walking the hood I call a
set of numbers and they watch from their house. It helps if you know that your
neighbor is not moving out but some thug is removing all his TV stuff.
I had that happen one time in my hood.
Walk your hood and get people to give up the house number not a cell phone
Make a copy for everyone to put in a place where it can be retrieved and work
it.
Some people in the hood are gun owners. Know who is and who aint.
If you need a gunner call him with the gun. Not Gramma with a cook book.
Larry Not Gramma Melton

In a message dated 1/16/2009 10:05:31 PM Central Standard Time,
darlingdavisfam...@gmail.com writes:

Back in the 70's my father was part of a group, I will have to ask him what
they called it at that time, but they volunteered to watch each others house,
and about 4-5 men in a neighborhood would go out at night and rotate through
the day. I think that would be a good idea.

I tried to email the sheriff several days ago to find out how to set up and
work a neighborhood watch, and I still have not gotten a response. If there
are not any restrictions for the people to just work together, I may forget
hearing from the sheriff, and just talk to the people as I am canvassing about
starting a neighborhood watch, and community gardens. I sure am not going to
wait for government to have the answers, because if they are able to remain
intact financially, I am pretty sure I am not going to like their solution.

Re: [ronpaul-29] Be prepared for the unexpected

 
Taking some officers out of town for a few hours will not affect a thing. 
Take Officers out of town for years will put you in a volunteer statues.
First come first serve. Hope you have some good dry black powder.
When you find the thugs moving here because it is wide open for business.
Kind a like a dead animal. First come the flies then millions of maggots.
Larry Out Of Town Melton
 
In a message dated 1/16/2009 5:06:06 PM Central Standard Time, 
meekandmil...@yahoo.com writes:

According to the KC experiment that was conducted. Police presents have very 
little to do with crime. The experiment took all police officers out of an 
area and a police only responded to that area when a call for service. The 
crime 
rate did not change. If you got enough police to answer calls, you have enough 
police.
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"Cracker Barrel on KTTS"--One cent sales tax

2009-01-16 Thread Glenn Gohr

Here is a note I received from Cracker Barrel.  This will be this Sunday
morning (Jan. 18th).

Cracker Barrel
Call (417)577-7000
7:00-9:00am Sundays

--Glenn

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Bill Cantrell sent a message to the members of Cracker Barrel on KTTS.


Subject: Cracker Barrel this wekend.

An invitation to tune in to Cracker Barrel from 7am to 9am Sunday morning on
KTTS 94.7 FM or at KTTS.com. My special guest this week will be Springfield
Assistant Fire Chief David Hall who will talk about the proposed one cent
sales tax that would support the police and firefighter's pension fund.
Listen in and call with your questions/opinions. Thank you for being part of
the Cracker Barrel Facebook group! Invite your friends!!

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Re: our next mayor

2009-01-16 Thread Charity Angel

I stood face to face with her outside, and under the hood at that moment,
she had a mask that covered her mouth and nose, and sunglasses covering her
eyes.  I saw a nose and some teeth when she was rapping, and when she took
of her gloves I saw hands, and that was all.

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Glenn Gohr wrote:

>  Tom,
>
> I guess you didn't see the introductory article in the Springfield
> News-Leader on Nov. 18, 2008, just after she filed.  She has no degrees.
> The initials after her name stand for "poor hungry dangerous."
>
>
>
> http://www.news-leader.com/article/20081118/OPINIONS06/811180345
>
>
>
> --Glenn
>
> >
>

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Be prepared for the unexpected

I am sending this because I believe we here in Springfield will be faced with 
a very real security problem in the next year or sooner then that.
I say that because Springfield is down 30 or so (Who knows) police officers.
The City is loosing on avearge 3 per month. Doing that math> In one year we 
could be down 60 plus officers. The Tax issue passing or failing will not help 
or reflect on the matter. It takes a year to get officers hired and trained 
and they have stopped all hiring until we support or and vote for a tax.
This has put our City in a very dangerous position and I hope all of you will 
contact Home Land Security and as for assistance.
Crime is on the rise and officers are on the decline. We are in the middle of 
a new City Manager politically jockeying citizens with false statements in 
the Local media and the Media is following him into a security problem that we 
may need to take into our own hands with in the next few months. 
Are you prepared to defend yourself and or to do what is necessary to stay 
safe.
Larry Be Prepared Melton  Go to H.L.S Office and make a report and ask for 
help.
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Re: our next mayor

I try NOT to read the S~N~L, it could perhaps start to diminish my already
small I.Q.

tom

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>  Tom,
>
> I guess you didn't see the introductory article in the Springfield
> News-Leader on Nov. 18, 2008, just after she filed.  She has no degrees.
> The initials after her name stand for "poor hungry dangerous."
>
>
>
> http://www.news-leader.com/article/20081118/OPINIONS06/811180345
>
>
>
> --Glenn
>
> >
>


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RE: our next mayor

2009-01-16 Thread Glenn Gohr

Tom,

I guess you didn't see the introductory article in the Springfield
News-Leader on Nov. 18, 2008, just after she filed.  She has no degrees.
The initials after her name stand for "poor hungry dangerous."

 

http://www.news-leader.com/article/20081118/OPINIONS06/811180345

 

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RE: our next mayor

That makes it even scarier if you were sitting that close and could not see
anything.  

BUT on the up side.Charge and admission to CC and a lottery for facial shots
with $1 an attempt and 75 cents going to the pension fund, 25 cents to the
lottery winner.yeah.the pension fund would be bailed out and I truly believe
that more left over!  VBG

 

Cathy M

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From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com
[mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martz
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:33 PM
To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: our next mayor

 

What you see is what we got to see.  I was sitting three seats from her as
she was sitting on the corner seat and I couldn't see her face either,
neither did anyone at the event.

She made sure that she mentioned the Ph.D although I wouldn't even want to
guess what it could be in.

tom

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM, CathyM  wrote:

I would have to say that the CC meetings would never be boring!  LOL  Will
she supply everyone with the bubbles to keep us all occupied during the
meeting?  Also, I got tired of looking at all of the pictures but never did
see one of her face.what does she look like?  And, what is her PhD in?
Bubble Blowing Factory?  VBG  WOW!

 

Cathy M

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Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:53 PM


To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com; Springfield Campaign For
Liberty

Subject: our next mayor

 

For those of you that have never seen Sandra
  "Queen" Noble Ph.D please clink on
the link attached to her name so you can be aware of why our council
meetings for the next two years will be heavily attended.  I believe we can
solve the pension problem by charging admission to council meetings should
the "Queen" be successful in her attempt to get elected.  I'm quite sure she
could single handily put an asterisk beside Springfield's name on the map.

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Re: our next mayor

What you see is what we got to see.  I was sitting three seats from her as
she was sitting on the corner seat and I couldn't see her face either,
neither did anyone at the event.

She made sure that she mentioned the Ph.D although I wouldn't even want to
guess what it could be in.

tom

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:26 PM, CathyM  wrote:

>  I would have to say that the CC meetings would never be boring!  LOL
> Will she supply everyone with the bubbles to keep us all occupied during the
> meeting?  Also, I got tired of looking at all of the pictures but never did
> see one of her face…what does she look like?  And, what is her PhD in?
> Bubble Blowing Factory?  VBG  WOW!
>
>
>
> Cathy M
>
> Catren's Shar Pei
>
> Catren's Leather Show Accessories
>
>
>
> *From:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Martz
> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2009 1:53 PM
> *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com; Springfield Campaign For
> Liberty
> *Subject:* our next mayor
>
>
>
> For those of you that have never seen Sandra "Queen" Noble 
> Ph.Dplease clink on the link attached 
> to her name so you can be aware of why our
> council meetings for the next two years will be heavily attended.  I believe
> we can solve the pension problem by charging admission to council meetings
> should the "Queen" be successful in her attempt to get elected.  I'm quite
> sure she could single handily put an asterisk beside Springfield's name on
> the map.
>
> --
> http://votetom4council.webs.com/
>
> www.moliberty.org
>
> http://417-political-pundit.blogspot.com
>
> The power to tax involves the power to destroy.
> ~Justice John Marshall~
>
> Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics
> won't take an interest in you!
> -Pericles (430 B.C.)
>
> "no cause is lost if there is but one fool to fight for it"
> ~Will Turner~
> ~Pirate's of the Caribbean @ World's End~
>
> A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law.
> ~Justice John Marshall~
>
> http://www.radiofreeliberty.com
>
>
>
>
> >
>


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RE: our next mayor

I would have to say that the CC meetings would never be boring!  LOL  Will
she supply everyone with the bubbles to keep us all occupied during the
meeting?  Also, I got tired of looking at all of the pictures but never did
see one of her face.what does she look like?  And, what is her PhD in?
Bubble Blowing Factory?  VBG  WOW!

 

Cathy M

Catren's Shar Pei

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Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 1:53 PM
To: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com; Springfield Campaign For
Liberty
Subject: our next mayor

 

For those of you that have never seen Sandra
 "Queen" Noble Ph.D please clink on
the link attached to her name so you can be aware of why our council
meetings for the next two years will be heavily attended.  I believe we can
solve the pension problem by charging admission to council meetings should
the "Queen" be successful in her attempt to get elected.  I'm quite sure she
could single handily put an asterisk beside Springfield's name on the map.

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our next mayor

For those of you that have never seen Sandra "Queen" Noble
Ph.Dplease clink on the link
attached to her name so you can be aware of why our
council meetings for the next two years will be heavily attended.  I believe
we can solve the pension problem by charging admission to council meetings
should the "Queen" be successful in her attempt to get elected.  I'm quite
sure she could single handily put an asterisk beside Springfield's name on
the map.

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Re: No Halfway House Needed for Michael Vick Dogs, Faithful Friends at End of...

Cathy.
That's what I'M say'en.
Pit bulls are not all mean. They can be trained to do what the owner wants
them to do if the owner has a brain. The dog is as smart as the handler.
A fox terrier can kill a pit bull so fast the pit would not know when to fall
down.
I can prove that. No dog fights Please
Fox Terriers look cute but don't get one mad at you or try to take advantage
of it.
Ya could end with stumps for legs.
Larry Fox Terrier Melton

In a message dated 1/16/2009 11:02:17 AM Central Standard Time,
catr...@juno.com writes:

He was holding the meanest dang dog I have ever put on a lead in my life.
This terrier could kill a coon so fast I couldn't believe what I was watching.
Not only that he dang near killed my black'en white plot hound.
Larry,
This just makes me laugh! I want a smooth Fox (but now may be getting a
German Pinscher in my future; and I can hear anyone that knows me…not another
dog!
LOL) but have a Jack Russell Terrier, by the name of Jackie. Jackie is the
most lovable, intelligent dog you have ever seen. He is also a mass murderer
of moles, rats, mice, snakes, squirrels (if he can get them), possums (by
himself), a couple of skunks (he smelled really good after that) and helped
with
disposing of a coon (assisted the GP). This is the ground type JRT (short
legs)
and he hunts and works the farm all day long. He weighs around 13# (although
right now on a diet as he stayed at mom’s and put on weight) and will take on
anything that does not belong in our yard.
Not only does he take care of varmints, he is one of the best heelers of
cattle you have ever seen. You set him a line not to let the cattle through,
and
he gets to work.
This is not only the Fox Terrier…It is in ALL Terriers. Some more than
other, but they are tenacious dogs that are born hunting and active. People do
not
understand this and think they are just cute.
It just so happens that the Fox and JRT are both a little OCD (obsessive
compulsive disorder) when it comes to their “job,” they get into a fight mode
and they don’t care who they fight as long as they fight. It can be a little
bit dangerous in a pack situation as they just don’t turn on and off like other
dogs. But I do love their personality.
Jackie knows McDonalds is where you get hamburgers and Walmart is where you
get chicken livers when you go in the car, plus so many other things. My
father has been dead for 3 years now and he will still get excited when he sees
a
man that resembles my father. Too smart sometimes…VBG

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representatives, to prevent violations of current law … Any animals that are 
entitled to bring suit would be represented by (human) counsel, who would owe 
guardian like obligations and make decisions, subject to those obligations, on 
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RE: New Radical White House Appointee: No Hunting, Meat, or Medical Testing?

Fred

I finally found the source.  Took some digging but here it is:

http://unitedconservatives.blogspot.com/2009/01/when-animals-sue.html

Thanks for posting these things.  I will continue passing them on to my
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Fw: The Politician Who Loves the Crisis

2009-01-16 Thread Fred B. Ellison



D o w n s i z e r - D i s p a t c h 


Quote of the Day: "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste." - Rahm 
Emmanuel, Barack Obama's Chief of Staff
 
Subject: The politician who loves the crisis
 
Rahm Emmanuel loves the financial crisis. He sees it as an opportunity. His 
admission of this fact, which we've used as our quote of the day, is 
breathtaking.  
Mr. Emmanuel tried to moderate his enthusiasm for exploiting the crisis by 
claiming that his desire wasn't for big government, but for good government. 
But has Mr. Emmanuel ever acted as if good government was consistent with 
smaller government? We doubt it. 
 
Mr. Emmanuel isn't alone in seeing crisis as an opportunity to make government 
"gooder" by making it bigger. Donald Rumsfeld famously wanted to exploit the 
9-11 attack by "roping in everything," including Iraq. And that is what they 
did.
One "crisis" event was used to create another crisis. Now it's happening again.
Consider what this means: What do the politicians think of you? They think you 
aren't wise enough to accept their grand plans for remaking the world, so you 
have to be scared into doing the right thing. Their grand plans require crisis 
to be implemented. This way of thinking also implies that only the politicians 
know what the right thing is.
 
Your plans and my plans, and all the individual plans of 300 million Americans, 
must be superseded by the plans of the politicians and their court 
intellectuals. But what's the likelihood that such a small group of people 
really knows how 300 million individuals should live -- how their affairs 
should be regulated and their money spent?
 
And what happens when they're wrong? If you and I make mistakes in our small 
plans for our own lives, the consequences effect only ourselves and maybe a few 
people around us. But when the politicians' grand plans go wrong, millions, 
perhaps everyone, is harmed in a grand way.
 
But isn't this very nearly the definition of a crisis -- something that harms 
everyone? 
 
If politicians have the power to help everyone, then they also have the power 
to harm everyone. But what they can never have is enough knowledge to predict 
the full consequences of their grand, universal "do-gooder" plans.
 
Knowledge is decentralized. All of us have pieces of the puzzle. This is why 
small, decentralized plans tend to work, creating massive progress from the 
bottom-up. It's also why grand plans, from the top-down, blow-up.
 
Here at DownsizeDC.org we think we need to have a few, bottom-up plans of our 
own. We need to figure out how to stop the politicians from creating and 
exploiting crises. But, unlike the politicians, our plans must not be grand and 
universal. They should be humble and flexible, capable of being implemented in 
small increments.
 
We can't pretend to know, in advance, all the steps needed to curtail the 
politicians' power to create and exploit crises. No one one bill, by itself, 
will stop political opportunism and meddling. But we can know the rough 
dimensions of what our plan must achieve. Above all, we can be fairly certain 
of the need to make our ideas heard at the same volume as the grand claims of 
the crisis exploiters.
 
Jim Babka
President
DownsizeDC.org, Inc.
 
P.S. This afternoon (Friday) Jim Babka is scheduled to be on Straight Talk w/ 
Jerry Hughes on the Accent Radio Network. Details are available in this 
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community gardens coming

After the Arts Council forum last night I was talking with the director of
the Springfield Greene County Parks Department Jodie Adams to ask about
community gardens in the parks.  I guess they have started working on the
one which is going to be located at the Rutledge Wilson farm and eventually
these will spread throughout the parks located throughout the Greene County
system.  For all the work that everyone has put into this you are to be
commended and this shows that voices can be heard.

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The 'Old Deal'

2009-01-16 Thread Fred B. Ellison



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Secret Animal Rights Agenda

2009-01-16 Thread Fred B. Ellison


 
This is the link to the story:
 
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_detail.cfm/headline/3807 
 
Exposed: The Secret Animal Rights Agenda Of America’s Next Regulatory Czar

January 15, 2009

 
Barack Obama’s pick for “regulatory czar,” Harvard Law School Professor Cass 
Sunstein, may be the incoming president’s most popular appointment so far. 
Judging from his resume -- best-selling author, “pre-eminent legal scholar of 
our time,” and an endorsement from The Wall Street Journal -- we can almost 
understand why. Almost. Because as we’re telling the media today, there’s one 
troubling portion of the new Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs 
(OIRA) Administrator’s C.V. that has seems to have flown under everyone’s 
radar: Cass Sunstein is a radical animal rights activist.

Don’t believe us? Sunstein has made no secret of his devotion to the cause of 
establishing legal “rights” for livestock, wildlife, and pets. “[T]here should 
be extensive regulation of the use of animals in entertainment, scientific 
experiments, and agriculture,” Sunstein wrote in a 2002 working paper while at 
the University of Chicago Law school. 

“Extensive regulation of the use of animals.” That's PETA-speak for using 
government to get everything PETA and the Humane Society of the United States 
can't get through gentle pressure or not-so-gentle coercion. Not exactly the 
kind of thing American ranchers, restaurateurs, hunters, and biomedical 
researchers (to say nothing of ordinary consumers) would like to hear from 
their next “regulatory czar.”

A version of the same paper also appeared as the introduction to Animal Rights: 
Current Debates and New Directions, a 2004 book that Sunstein co-edited with 
then-girlfriend Martha Nussbaum. In that book, Sunstein set out an ambitious 
plan to give animals the legal “right” to file lawsuits. We're not joking: 

“[A]nimals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as their 
representatives, to prevent violations of current law … Any animals that are 
entitled to bring suit would be represented by (human) counsel, who would owe 
guardian like obligations and make decisions, subject to those obligations, on 
their clients’ behalf.” 
It doesn't end there. Sunstein delivered a keynote speech at Harvard 
University’s 2007 “Facing Animals” conference. (Click here to watch the video; 
his speech starts around 39:00.) Keep in mind that as OIRA Administrator, 
Sunstein will have the political authority to implement a massive federal 
government overhaul. Consider this tidbit: 

“We ought to ban hunting, I suggest, if there isn’t a purpose other than sport 
and fun. That should be against the law. It’s time now.” 
Sunstein also argued in favor of “eliminating current practices such as 
greyhound racing, cosmetic testing, and meat eating, most controversially.”

He concluded his Harvard speech by expressing his “more ambitious animating 
concern” that the current treatment of livestock and other animals should be 
considered “a form of unconscionable barbarity not the same as, but in many 
ways morally akin to, slavery and mass extermination of human beings.” Sound 
familiar?

As the individual about to assume “the most important position that Americans 
know nothing about,” Sunstein owes the public an honest appraisal of his animal 
rights goals before taking office. Will the next four years be a 
dream-come-true for anti-meat, anti-hunting, and anti-everything-else radicals? 
Time will tell. For now, meat lovers might want to stock their freezers. 

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From HSUS' Legislative Fund 1/14/09

These are the demands of the HSUS on our new government.  Hopefully, cooler
heads then these are actually thinking and these things won't come about.

 

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Wednesday, January 14, 2009


http://hslf.typepad.com/political_animal/2009/01/a-change-agenda-for-animals
.html


Our Change Agenda for Animals


Senate confirmation hearings are in full swing this week for President-elect
Obama's   Cabinet
choices. Lawmakers are asking the nominees to lay out their vision for
leading the federal agencies, and to explain how they will execute Obama's
plans for confronting the major challenges facing the nation.

  Dog and
cat2Obama's nominees will almost certainly be confirmed by the Senate, and
will assume their new posts shortly after the inauguration. But before they
become immersed in the quotidian needs of running our government, we hope
they will take a step back and look at the big-picture reforms that are
needed.

When it comes to animal protection, more than a dozen federal agencies have
a direct impact on the lives of millions of pets, farm animals, laboratory
animals, and wildlife. In years past, some of these agencies have functioned
largely as an annex to industry, and have been inattentive to the wishes of
Americans who care about animal welfare, food safety, and environmental
protection.

Rather than politics as usual, it's time for change. The Humane Society of
the United States and Humane Society Legislative Fund have developed a
 change
agenda for animals, with 100 immediate steps the executive branch can take
to advance the humane treatment of animals. Here are some of the most
critical reforms needed:

. The Agriculture Department must improve enforcement at slaughter
plants, puppy mills, research laboratories, and wild animal exhibits, and
crack down on abusive practices such as animal fighting, horse soring, and
puppy imports. It should apply basic humane slaughter protections to poultry
so that nine billion birds per year have a merciful death, and finalize its
pending rule to prohibit the slaughter of downed cows who are too sick or
injured to stand up. The agency should work to stop the export of horses for
slaughter in other countries, and should shift the focus of its Wildlife
Services program to effective nonlethal methods rather than the use of
aerial gunning, cruel traps, and toxic poisons.

. The Interior Department must renew and restore its commitment to
the Endangered Species Act, and work to protect listed species and their
habitat. It should reject attempts by trophy hunters to reopen the import of
heads and hides from threatened polar bears, and should list the entire
species of chimpanzees as endangered, bringing an end to their use in
research. The agency should also revamp its Wild Horse and Burro Program,
and broader use of immunocontraception and other alternatives to rounding up
wild horses and holding them in pens at taxpayer expense.

. The Environmental Protection Agency must ensure that factory farm
emissions are not exempt from federal environmental laws, including new laws
addressing climate change. It must also invest in promising alternatives to
animal testing that offer more rapid, efficient screening of pesticides and
other chemicals.

. The Commerce and State Departments must make the protection of
marine mammals and ocean life a priority both domestically and
internationally, working to stop commercial whaling, seal hunts, shark
finning, dolphin drive fisheries, and other abusive practices.

. The Health and Human Services Department must expedite the
retirement of all federally-owned chimpanzees to sanctuaries, honor and
maintain its moratorium on breeding chimps for research, and work to phase
out use of chimps in invasive experiments. It should also prioritize the
development of alternatives to animals in toxicity testing, and take urgent
steps to address the overuse of antibiotics for nontherapeutic purposes on
factory farms.

. The Justice Department must begin collecting data on animal
cruelty crimes as a separate offense category in federal databases, so that
law enforcement officials can analyze the trends and connections with other
violence. The agency should also enforce the longstanding federal law
limiting long-distance transport of farm animals to 28 hours or less, and
create a new Animal Protection Division to ensure strong enforcement of
animal protection laws.

. The White House should appoint an Animal Protection Liaison to
help coordinate animal welfare concerns (policy issues, regulations, and
positions on legislation) that cut across many different federal agencies. 

 
Polar-bear-bi

RE: New Radical White House Appointee: No Hunting, Meat, or Medical Testing?

Fred

Can you get me the site address for this?  I would like to send it to a
bunch of animal lists as it confirms other reports but at the same time is
also from a different source.  But to pass on, I need site addresses as on
one list that is all that they pass on.

Thanks.

 

Cathy M

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Catren's Leather Show Accessories

 

From: missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com
[mailto:missourilibertycoalit...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fred B.
Ellison
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:02 AM
To: MLC Google Group
Cc: Roy Blunt; Christopher S. Bond
Subject: Fw: New Radical White House Appointee: No Hunting, Meat, or Medical
Testing?

 


 


 

 


Friday, January 16, 2009

 

Why the Obama White House May Go to the Dogs 
(and the Cows, and the Deer, and the Lab Rats)

Forget about Barack Obama's income tax-challenged Treasury Secretary or the
conflict of interest controversy at the State Department. The most
outrageous Obama appointee just might be Cass
  Sunstein, a Harvard
Law School professor who's flying under everyone's radar and into a job that
hardly anyone has ever heard of.

Cass Sunstein is slated to run the White House's Office of Information and
Regulatory Affairs. He's going to be America 's chief "regulatory czar." And
shocking new research from the Center
  for Consumer Freedom
shows that he's   a
dedicated animal-rights zealot. 


 The 8 Biggest Celebrity Financial Mistakes
 



Hold on to your sirloin.

The anti-meat nuts at People
  for the Ethical
Treatment of Animals (PETA) and the anti-hunting lobbyists at the Humane
  Society of the United
States (HSUS) used to think that putting Dennis Kucinich in the White House
would be their best hope of wielding real power in Washington . But even
they didn't see Cass Sunstein coming. Sunstein has the legal mind of Chief
Justice John Roberts and the animal-rights agenda of PETA president Ingrid
Newkirk  . 

We're not talking about animal welfare---the idea of making sure we don't
cause animals unnecessary suffering when we use them for food, clothing,
entertainment, or lifesaving medical research. Sunstein believes in animal
 rights---the notion
that people shouldn't "own" or "use" animals at all, for any purpose, no
matter what the stakes are for mankind.

Cancer research? Not if lab rats are used against their will.

Hunting? Absolutely forbidden, especially if it's for sport. 

Leather jackets? The cows need their skin more that you do.

Seeing-eye dogs? They're nothing more than slaves.

And that T-bone steak? Fuhgeddaboudit! If animals have any "rights" at all,
the right to not be your dinner is at the top of the list.

All of this makes perfect sense to Cass Sunstein, who organized the "Chicago
Project on Animal Treatment Principles" at the University of Chicago . He
will soon have the political authority to push for a radical overhaul of the
way the federal government regulates everything Americans do with animals.

How radical? Sunstein 
supports making sport hunting illegal, and completely phasing out the
consumption of meat. And if that's not nutty enough, he's actually in favor
of giving animals the legal right to sue people. 

Think we're joking? Think again. Here's what Sunstein wrote in his 2004
book,   Animal Rights:
Current Debates and New Directions:

"[A]nimals should be permitted to bring suit, with human beings as their
representatives ... Any animals that are entitled to bring suit would be
represented by (human) counsel, who would owe guardian like obligations and
make decisions, subject to those obligations, on their clients' behalf."

Conservative commentators have been openly fretting that Barack Obama may
try to turn welfare entitlements and single-payer healthcare into a new Bill
of Rights. But Cass Sunstein threatens to expand the whole concept of
"rights" to include the rest of the animal kingdom.

That fish wriggling at the end of your hook could soon be a federal offense
(if the fish doesn't file a lawsuit first). Don't say we didn't warn you. 

   

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RE: No Halfway House Needed for Michael Vick Dogs, Faithful Friends at End of...

He was holding the meanest dang dog I have ever put on a lead in my life. This 
terrier could kill a coon so fast I couldn't believe what I was watching. Not 
only that he dang near killed my black'en white plot hound.

 

Larry, 

This just makes me laugh!  I want a smooth Fox (but now may be getting a German 
Pinscher in my future; and I can hear anyone that knows me…not another dog! 
LOL) but have a Jack Russell Terrier, by the name of Jackie.  Jackie is the 
most lovable, intelligent dog you have ever seen.  He is also a mass murderer 
of moles, rats, mice, snakes, squirrels (if he can get them), possums (by 
himself), a couple of skunks (he smelled really good after that) and helped 
with disposing of a coon (assisted the GP).  This is the ground type JRT (short 
legs) and he hunts and works the farm all day long.  He weighs around 13# 
(although right now on a diet as he stayed at mom’s and put on weight) and will 
take on anything that does not belong in our yard.

Not only does he take care of varmints, he is one of the best heelers of cattle 
you have ever seen.  You set him a line not to let the cattle through, and he 
gets to work.

This is not only the Fox Terrier…It is in ALL Terriers.  Some more than other, 
but they are tenacious dogs that are born hunting and active.  People do not 
understand this and think they are just cute.

It just so happens that the Fox and JRT are both a little OCD (obsessive 
compulsive disorder) when it comes to their “job,”  they get into a fight mode 
and they don’t care who they fight as long as they fight.  It can be a little 
bit dangerous in a pack situation as they just don’t turn on and off like other 
dogs.  But I do love their personality.

Jackie knows McDonalds is where you get hamburgers and Walmart is where you get 
chicken livers when you go in the car, plus so many other things.  My father 
has been dead for 3 years now and he will still get excited when he sees a man 
that resembles my father.  Too smart sometimes…VBG

 

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Using the Financial Crisis for Global Governance?

Posted: 01/12/09

Using the Financial Crisis for Global Governance?
By Brannon S. Howse

Listen to Brannon’s live, national radio program M-F at 5:05 p.m. CT at
_www.worldviewmatters.net_ (http://www.worldviewmatters.net/)
Just few days ago, Nobel Peace Prize winner and former secretary of state for
President Nixon, Henry Kissinger, gave an interview on CNBC at the New York
Stock Exchange. In his interview, speaking of President-Elect Obama, Kissinger
said:

His task will be to develop an overall strategy for America in this period
when, really, a new world order can be created. It's a great opportunity, it
isn't just a crisis.
The crisis is a great opportunity? Barack Obama’s White House Chief of Staff,
Rahm, Emanuel told business leaders in a November 2008 meeting that the
financial crisis was “an opportunity to do things you could not do before.”
Emanuel has said, “you never want a serious crisis to go to waste.”

Sounds like Kissinger, Obama and Emanuel are singing from the same
song-sheet. But wait, we can add Mikhail Gorbachev to the chorus. Gorbachev is
the last
leader of the Soviet Union and is president of the International Foundation
for Socio-Economic and Political Studies in Moscow and has been pushing his
one-world religion and one-world government ideas for years. In fact, Gorbachev
has conducted much of his work right here in America from an office in San
Francisco.

On January 1, 2009, Gorbachev wrote a column in the International Herald
Tribune. Gorbachev also seemed gleeful over the financial crisis and the great
opportunity for using this crisis to further his globalist agenda:
The G-20 summit meeting in Washington foreshadowed a new format of global
leadership, brining together the countries responsible for the future of the
world economy. And more than just the economy is at stake. …The economic and
political balance in the world has changed. It is now a given that a world with
a
single power center, in any shape or guise, is no longer possible. The global
challenge of a financial and economic tsunami can only be met by working
together.
Working together for what purpose? Gorbachev tells us when he writes:
A new concept is emerging for addressing the crisis at the national and
international levels…If current ideas for reforming the world’s financial and
economic institutions are consistently implemented, that would suggest we are
finally beginning to understand the importance of global governance.
A January 8, 2009, an AP article by Emma Vandore told of a two-day meeting
hosted by French President Nicolas Sarkozy. Former British Prime Minister Tony
Blair who has been calling for a one-world interfaith dialog for years is also
calling for a new financial order based on “values other than the maximum
short-term profits.”
Sarkozy, who I think perceives himself as a potential world leader, said:
In the 21st Century, there is no longer a single nation who can say what we
should do or what w should think… We cannot accept the status quo. We should
discuss how each of us in managing his currency, his interest rates…In the
capitalism of the 21st century, there is room for the state.
When the state moves in it ceases to be capitalism and that is exactly the
goal; the end of capitalism and the fulfillment of the dream of humanists and
socialists; global government.
Globalism has always been tied to occultism and so do not be surprised when
you see more and more evidence that those calling for globalism practice pagan
spirituality.
I, and a few others, have predicted for years that a global crisis of some
kind would be used to implement the freedom robbing tyranny of global
governance. Is this going to be that crisis?
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On Wednesday - with just five days left before leaving office - the Bush 
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Re: No Halfway House Needed for Michael Vick Dogs, Faithful Friends at End of...

Cathy.

This stuff that the City is trying to pass off to city people is so
misleading to people that don't know anything about dogs.
I am an Old , Old hunter. Have hunted with dogs all my life. I can take any
dog and make them do what I want them to do if I start with them when they are
one year old it is easier.
I have trained dogs to do some things that even you would not believe.
Long story/short. I trained coon dogs for years and years every night if it
was not too hot to go out.
I always thought certain dogs were the best and I had my picks of the breeds.
I was ask to take a Fox terrier coon hunt'en one night and I laughed so da
ng hard I thought I would never stand up straight again.
My buddy was not thinking it was so funny. A Fox Terrier? I said. I have
blue ticks and red bones and plot hounds that will eat your terrier. Without a
smile. He said Ya wan'ta bet?
Well I stopped laugh'en when I looked into his eyes. He was holding the
meanest dang dog I have ever put on a lead in my life. This terrier could kill
a
coon so fast I couldn't believe what I was watching. Not only that he dang near
killed my black'en white plot hound.
I got the thing down and looked in its mouth and its Canine Teeth were twice
as long as my dogs. It could rip a stump in two.
Don't judge a dog by it breed.
Larry Dog Breed Melton

In a message dated 1/15/2009 10:12:59 PM Central Standard Time,
catr...@juno.com writes:
This is a good article that needs to be passed around far and wide. I
hi-lited a couple of sentences in it but if you don’t get html email, you won’t
know what I hi-lited, but it has to do with irresponsible owners not the breed
being vicious.

Cathy M
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RE: THIS'L SCARE YA..