[MMouse]: stickers

2000-06-27 Thread kenneld



Hey,
 
I can't take any more sticker requests. Everyone 
who wrote in by now will get six stickers. All I ask is that you let me know if 
you put your's any place interesting.


[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n1014

2000-06-27 Thread LWirbel

In a message dated 06/27/2000 5:15:18 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< <>
 Hey, that book was groovy...
 I would suggest anything by Gore Vidal...him and Vonnegut, >>

I'm sure most on the list have read David Foster Wallace (Infinite Jest, 
Broom of the System, etc.), but you'll also want to check out ANYTHING by 
Richard Powers - Three Farmers On Their Way to a Dance, Goldbug Variations, 
Prisoner's Dilemma, Operation Wandering Soul, Galatea 2.2, Gain, Plowing the 
Dark, it's all wonderful stuff..

Loring Wirbel
Monument, Colo.
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Re: [MMouse]: Re: Books

2000-06-27 Thread jsl04


That's an understatement. Candide isn't 'pretty jive,' it's all
around ass-kicking alpha-jive (whatever the hell that means).

Another monster of literature is Louis-Ferdinand Celine's Death
on the Installment Plan (his follow-up to Journey to the End of
the Night). Any kids here should get their parents' permission
before reading!

Poisoned by many a book,
Justin
 

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> <>
> Hey, that book was groovy...
> I would suggest anything by Gore Vidal...him and Vonnegut, they have lots of 
> fun end of the world scenarios...
> Anybody ever read Voltaire?  Candide is just about the most un-1700s book 
> ever written...my copy even has little porno cartoons in it...its pretty 
> jive...
> -Ali Shaheed Muhammed
> 




Re: [MMouse]: Re: why are these things necessary?

2000-06-27 Thread jsl04


If you consider that 'brilliance,' you need to expand yr reading
horizons beyond what the HS/college cannon buries you under. Sure,
there were some good hits back then, but there has been MUCH better
played since.

Always have been fond of the Russian 'realists' myself.

Gogol shut them all down,
Justin


 

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> No one is above sophomoric adjectives like pretentious. Not even god. I still 
> say that, if you want brilliance in literature, read some Renaissance to 
> Romantic era British people that aren't Shakespeare.
> 
> -matt
> 
> In a message dated 6/27/00 12:46:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> << someone like james joyce is pretty much above sophmoric adjectives like
>  'pretentious.' he can and could do whatever the fuck he wanted...it was
>  all brilliant. >>
> 




Re: [MMouse]: Re: Books

2000-06-27 Thread francesca tallone

i suggest reading any novel or poetry by richard braughtigan. the hawkline
monster is a rad book and loading mercury with a pitchfork is an amazing
collection of poetry.
f*

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 1:33 PM
Subject: [MMouse]: Re: Books


> <>
> Hey, that book was groovy...
> I would suggest anything by Gore Vidal...him and Vonnegut, they have lots
of
> fun end of the world scenarios...
> Anybody ever read Voltaire?  Candide is just about the most un-1700s book
> ever written...my copy even has little porno cartoons in it...its pretty
> jive...
> -Ali Shaheed Muhammed
>



[MMouse]: joyce

2000-06-27 Thread Cameron Collins

"Gazing up into the Darkness I saw myself as a creature driven and derided by vanity; 
and my eyes burned with anguish and anger."  - cjc




Re: [MMouse]: baby cum angels

2000-06-27 Thread Dusty

Maybe its just Isaccs favorite hardcore porn flick? Sounds
pretty hot to me, any one got a copy I might borrow?

Dusty Diggler
"cross body blocks, its over"

Philip Smoker wrote:

> OK, so what if it is "baby cum angels?"
>
> Maybe it's some kind of stork-like birth reference, as
> the song seems to be very universal of birth and
> death, of the earth in regard to the whole universe.
> Maybe it's talking about little cherubs called Cum
> Angels that flitter by and deliver their bounty to the
> young children of the world, preparing them for the
> brave new world of adolescence and adulthood.
>
> And then again it's just the drugs talking, I'm sure.
>
> count yr blemishes you can't they're all gone,
> *phiL*
>
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Re: [MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n1012

2000-06-27 Thread Slackathon

Though I'm not exactly a Joyce fanatic, I totally agree with this statement. 
With Thomas Pynchon especially, If you 'get it', its no longer merely 
"difficult literature", but something you enjoy struggling with. The same 
could be said for David Foster Wallace, but everyone pretends to get it 
because its hip. I think more people have lied about finishing "infinite 
Jest" than any other book of the twentieth century. 
Karina

In a message dated 00-06-27 11:02:31 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  As snobbish 
 as it sounds, I just tell people that don't like James Joyce or Thomas 
 Pynchon that they just don't get it >>



Re: [MMouse]: RE: Books, Thanks, A Show

2000-06-27 Thread Slackathon

In a message dated 00-06-27 12:07:45 EDT, you write:

<< 28 The Fireside Bowl. Chicago, IL (w/ Jets To Brazil, The Explosion)  >>
Ugh! Knife in the back! Why are there always good shows in Chicago during the 
two months a year that I DONT live ther, and ten months of snowy mediocrity 
otherwise. This is why I havn't seen a band play since october...

Karina



[MMouse]: Re: Books

2000-06-27 Thread FritzCat8

<>
Hey, that book was groovy...
I would suggest anything by Gore Vidal...him and Vonnegut, they have lots of 
fun end of the world scenarios...
Anybody ever read Voltaire?  Candide is just about the most un-1700s book 
ever written...my copy even has little porno cartoons in it...its pretty 
jive...
-Ali Shaheed Muhammed



Re: [MMouse]: baby cum angels

2000-06-27 Thread kenneld

that's just very funny...

On 27 Jun 2000, at 12:02, Philip Smoker wrote:

> Maybe it's talking about little cherubs called Cum
> Angels that flitter by and deliver their bounty to the
> young children of the world, preparing them for the
> brave new world of adolescence and adulthood.  



Re: [MMouse]: BTS & Macy Gray

2000-06-27 Thread bobby mcelver


> >  Hello all, I wanted to share this experience with you. I went to the
> >  EMP(Experience Music Project) opening on Sunday in Seattle. I saw the
> >  concerts that day. On of my favorite all time bands was there. Built To
> >  Spill. Almost every Modest Mouse fan I know loves BTS. Anyway, when we
> were
> >  at the show BTS played a few covers. Neil Young's "Cortez the killer"
and
> >
>
> I didn't go, but I have the live album and I was amazed at how much Doug
> sounds like Neil Young in "cortez the killer".it's like that song was
> written for them to cover!  very very cool album.
>

I agree, they do a great version. Slint did a cover of Cortez back in '89
which was phenomenal, seems like great bands really like covering this song.




[MMouse]: Re: BTS & Macy Gray

2000-06-27 Thread shannon



> Hello all, I wanted to share this experience with you. I went to the
> EMP(Experience Music Project) opening on Sunday in Seattle. I saw the
> concerts that day. On of my favorite all time bands was there. Built To
> Spill. Almost every Modest Mouse fan I know loves BTS. Anyway, when we were
> at the show BTS played a few covers. Neil Young's "Cortez the killer" and
> Ozzy's "Mr.Crawler" but here's the weirdest one of all. BTS played a cover
> of Macy Gray's "I try" That song that's on VH1 and MTV like every two
> minutes. Doug(BTS front man) said they were playing it for a close friend.
> Their rendition was wonderful. Everything those guys touch turns to gold in
> my opinion. It was just funny watching Doug say "I try to walk away but I
> stumble" HAHAHA I was just like, WTF??? HAHAHA

Yeah, I was there as well, and I couldn't believe how great that song was
when covered by Built to Spill.  But it was definitely strange having
all these non-Built to Spill fans around me singing along to that song,
when I was singing alone to all the others... but, yeah.  They are
amazing, incredible, wonderful.  

Oh, and as far as books go, everyone must read How Green Was My Valley.
It has to be the most beautifully written book ever.





[MMouse]: baby cum angels

2000-06-27 Thread Philip Smoker

OK, so what if it is "baby cum angels?"

Maybe it's some kind of stork-like birth reference, as
the song seems to be very universal of birth and
death, of the earth in regard to the whole universe.  
Maybe it's talking about little cherubs called Cum
Angels that flitter by and deliver their bounty to the
young children of the world, preparing them for the
brave new world of adolescence and adulthood.  

And then again it's just the drugs talking, I'm sure.


count yr blemishes you can't they're all gone,
*phiL*



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[MMouse]: next time I see Isaac Brock...

2000-06-27 Thread Philip Smoker

"...how he's good at Galaga..."

...I'm going to say to him:

"YOU, ME, MOMO, RUXX.  
DRIVING TILL WE FIND GALAGA AT AN ARCADE.
PUT YR MONEY ON THE TABLE, HERE WE GO!"

What shall we wager, our immortal souls?  Two bucks?

*phiL*



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Re: [MMouse]: so...what are the merits of nsync?

2000-06-27 Thread Spazedog00

just becasue some people can
> never be happy 
> at simple things becasue there ugly or werent popular in high
> school or anything you cant change 
In a message dated 6/27/00 5:44:27 PM !!!First Boot!!!, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< excuse me? what good looking ppl are you talking about? because
 i don't remember any being mentioned >>
the ugly people are the ones that are not good looking and vice versa but 
that was just an example of why people are bitter and cant enjoy simple happy 
music which is one of the merits of nsync to make people smile when you sing 
along in the car
byebyebye
*gary*



[MMouse]: so...what are the merits of nsync?

2000-06-27 Thread One Hundred Watt Warlock


> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [MMouse]: 3 year olds buying for Skrewdriver?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> << roll your eyes if you have
>  to sell the freaking nsync cd. you're only gonna make them
> want
>  it more if you deny them. and i just ignore and hang up the
>  phone on ppl who ask for skrewdriver. you'd think they'd know
>  where to get a hold of that shit...>>

> im not trying to start with the one person who wrote this 
that would be me...
> but there are so 
> many messages liek this one in my mailbox and i want to say
> where the fuck do 
> you get off rolling your eyes at people liking nsync
 obviously you didn't get the gist of my post. while i didn't
emphasize that we shouldn't judge ppl based on what they listen
to (OR how they dress OR their politics OR anything else for
that matter; we judge ppl based on superficial things everyday
of our lives, it's a fact of life) like some other ppl did, i do
have a problem with ppl deciding what ppl can and can't buy.
*IF* the person who thinks he's god behind the cash register has
a problem with someone buying something he likes or dislikes, he
needs to "roll his eyes" and then sell the freaking cd. 

> where the fuck 
> do you honestly get of ah just becasue some people can
> never be happy 
> at simple things becasue there ugly or werent popular in high
> school or anything you cant change 
> it doesnt make you better than the good lookign people just
> because you roll your eyes at their music 
> there is nothign wrong with getting joy out of simple things
> and modest mouse 
> is no better than nsync and no worse theyre both music and
> they both have merits and fanbases 

excuse me? what good looking ppl are you talking about? because
i don't remember any being mentioned


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[MMouse]: books: High fidelity

2000-06-27 Thread One Hundred Watt Warlock

i forget who wrote this:

> I just finished Fever Pitch, by Nick Hornby. awesome book for
> anyone who considers themself a fan of sports. 

Nick is a god, and i just wanted to mention that High Fidelity
the book is even better than the movie, for those that saw it
and liked it.


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[MMouse]: amazon

2000-06-27 Thread Kristian Erickson

Amazon has 30% off on their best pick cd's, so I just
wanted to see what they considered the 10 best in
alternative, and I found Belle and Sebastian, Mogwai,
and Flaming Lips as some of the picks.  check it out

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/feature/-/45847/102-2158604-2280969

Evan

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[MMouse]: RE: Liner Notes

2000-06-27 Thread Zach_Douglas

I just had to waste this time and space to say..

H Andes Mints.

And hasn't anyone proposed.. "They Become Angels"?  Or do they say he says
that one one verse and something else on the other.
As gross as it is, I would probably take baby cum angels over biblical
angels.  I don't think either is what is being said!



>they arent right at all. baby cum angles cant be what he says.

  I've always heard it as either "biblical angels" or "baby-calm
angels."  It can't be baby cum, I agree.

  If Epic gives me a few boxes of andes mints I'll fix it all up for
them.

  - Matt






[MMouse]: RE: Sarcasm and Mail Lists, Broadcast, LA again

2000-06-27 Thread Zach_Douglas


First of all, I've seen two long thread/arguments start because someone
misunderstood someone
else's sarcasm in their post.  Hey, I love sarcasm as much as the next guy,
it's right their
next to irony, but when you type it in a message it really doesn't translate
too well!  

Nice going there, bub.
- Dennis Miller Sarcastic Saying

Moving on, I'm going to try and broadcast an Ugly Cassanova show later
today.. let's say.. oh
2:00 CST?  That might not be good for Californians eating lunch, if anyone
has a better time, email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can control my
broadcast and the weather from right here at my cube.

Isaac plays with drummer of a band I forgot, makes sarcastic comments about
why he agreed to play the show, and how he's good at Galaga, and plays some
songs from M&A as well as what he says is an Aphex Twin song plus the epic
(not the label, but the 10 minute, sweeping) 1776/1999 song.

http://fc.net/~zach/main.htm  or plug in the numbers to winamp/realplayer :
209.217.181.109:8000

 


-



Re: [MMouse]: BTS & Macy Gray

2000-06-27 Thread Rachel White


>  Hello all, I wanted to share this experience with you. I went to the
>  EMP(Experience Music Project) opening on Sunday in Seattle. I saw the
>  concerts that day. On of my favorite all time bands was there. Built To
>  Spill. Almost every Modest Mouse fan I know loves BTS. Anyway, when we
were
>  at the show BTS played a few covers. Neil Young's "Cortez the killer" and
> 

I didn't go, but I have the live album and I was amazed at how much Doug
sounds like Neil Young in "cortez the killer".it's like that song was
written for them to cover!  very very cool album.





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[MMouse]: RE: Books, Thanks, A Show

2000-06-27 Thread Zach_Douglas


Once again, technical difficulties make my posts not just too long, but
no longer timely..  yet you get to read them anyways.


I'm always watching movies or doing something stupid like working so I 
never can seem to finish a book these days... maybe they aren't good 
enough?  Was reading Invisible Monsters by Chuck Palahniuk  Nice 
premise, beautiful but vacant super model has face blown off by bullet.  
She's now invisible, no one will look at her or see her.  What adventures 
can she have?   Again, I have not finished it, not as compelling as Fight 
Club and with less of a point, or maybe it has as much of a point, but not 
one that is interesting to me personally.

If you have that book of 100 short stories sitting around since college, 
open it and find "The Chicken Who Became A Rat" and read it. Very 
short, good.  Sorry no Author, it's not in front of me.

Someone put up a box with a weird lens inside that looks like.. a 
camera.. on a pole on our street corner.  A ditch near our house where 
little kids skateboarded has been covered over with those little bumps 
like on a freeway...  I say it's time everyone pull out 1984 and read it 
again.. the only book you need to read.. you MUST read.

Uhm, and big big thanks to everyone in CA who told me where to go 
and what to see...  have noted all.. will plan itenarary accordingly..

Oh yeah, the real reason I posted was a short show review..

Saw Delta 72 with Rapture opening up for them...  I've seen Delta 72 a few
times in the last year and they are a lot of fun.. however.. after listening
to their songs quite a bit it's worn out fairly quickly... luckily.. their
live presence is still awesome...  they made the most jaded indie 
rockers shake their ass and give up the soul clap...

However, the real story was the rapture..  I saw them at SXSW where they
only had about 45 mins to play.. they were really impressive but nothing
like this time...  they lost a keyboard player somewhere along the line so
they were just 3...  we were standing around outside because it was so hot
inside... the main Rapture guy whos name is Luke I think, comes around
outside and politely informs everyone that they are about to start playing.
So there are 30 people or so spread out in front of the stage, mostly
towards the back.  He gets back off the stage again and starts going around
and pushing people up to the front of the stage as if to say, "you need to
pay attention to what's about to take place".  It was a really hot night and
everyone seemed as tired as we were but everyone went forwards anyways
Now how to describe their performance?!  The absolutely attacked the amps
and drums with everything they had...  I could only think of rockers rocking
like the Who or Iggy Pop...   Luke thrashed his guitar around so much he
broke the end of it on the ground but kept playing it anyways.  Feedback was
everywhere.  It's not that musical, but it's not just noise, it's more of a
rhythmical, musical.. noise.  I can't describe them, but if they are in your
town:

25 Rubber Glove. Denton, TX (w/Delta 72
26 TBA. Little Rock, AR
27 El Torrean Ballroom. Kansas City, MO (w/Delta 72)
28 The Fireside Bowl. Chicago, IL (w/ Jets To Brazil, The Explosion) 
29 TBA. Bloomington, IN (w/ The Faint, Bright Eyes) 
30 MORETHANMUSIC Fest. Columbus, OH 

then go and see them and you will leave a fan of the Rapture...
Just watch out for flying guitar parts.

Good kids too.  Good kids.

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http://fc.net/~zach/main.htm 



[MMouse]: BTS & Macy Gray

2000-06-27 Thread Neil Johnston

Hello all, I wanted to share this experience with you. I went to the
EMP(Experience Music Project) opening on Sunday in Seattle. I saw the
concerts that day. On of my favorite all time bands was there. Built To
Spill. Almost every Modest Mouse fan I know loves BTS. Anyway, when we were
at the show BTS played a few covers. Neil Young's "Cortez the killer" and
Ozzy's "Mr.Crawler" but here's the weirdest one of all. BTS played a cover
of Macy Gray's "I try" That song that's on VH1 and MTV like every two
minutes. Doug(BTS front man) said they were playing it for a close friend.
Their rendition was wonderful. Everything those guys touch turns to gold in
my opinion. It was just funny watching Doug say "I try to walk away but I
stumble" HAHAHA I was just like, WTF??? HAHAHA

Neil Johnston

Contact me at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 253-926-1880




[MMouse]: Re: Digest modestmouse.v001.n1012

2000-06-27 Thread LWirbel

In a message dated 06/27/2000 12:55:24 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< i too had to devote an entire semester to that one book and i am overjoyed
 that i had such an opportunity. if all you can say is that ulysses is
 'pretentious bullshit' you obviously didnt understand too much...
 
 s >>

I'll agree with this observation.  "Finnegan's Wake" pushes the prospects of 
the English language further than anyone else before or since.  As snobbish 
as it sounds, I just tell people that don't like James Joyce or Thomas 
Pynchon that they just don't get it.  This is complex, puzzle-box stuff, but 
it's hardly pretentious.

Loring Wirbel
Monument, Colo.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




[MMouse]: sorry....but this had to be said

2000-06-27 Thread Shane Overbay

Theres a dream in my brain..that just wont go away.and its been
stuck there 




 bridge dissappears..and i am standing in air

with nothing holding me

ANd I hang like a star...fucking glow in the dark..for all of the
starving eyes to see

 Love  
shane