[MMouse]: CRIPES! Atombombpocketknife
Desperately searching for any Atombombpocketknife mp3's. Please lemme know if you have any! Thanks, Stace
[MMouse]: OT: Bright Eyes Interview
Does anyone else find it funny that critics have been so relentlessly slagging the little interview thing on the new Bright Eyes album? I mean, I'm dumb-founded that people are taking it seriously. Personally, I thought it was really funny, and can't imagine hopw anyone could miss the fact that it's just a joke. The review of Fevers & Mirrors in the today's Pitchfork goes on and on about it (an ends up giving the album a 5.4 out of 10) and it just ends up making the reviewer look really dumb. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [MMouse]: CRIPES! Atombombpocketknife
i dont know of any mp3sbut man they rule live!! i went to the house show for just something to do...and man it rocked...very impressed --frenchy
Re: [MMouse]: OT: Bright Eyes Interview
regardless of how serious that interview should or shouldnt be taken, its annoying as hell. that album is a serious step down for him. ok...how many people are going to tell me i just dont get it? On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, George ? wrote: > Does anyone else find it funny that critics have been so relentlessly > slagging the little interview thing on the new Bright Eyes album? I mean, > I'm dumb-founded that people are taking it seriously. Personally, I thought > it was really funny, and can't imagine hopw anyone could miss the fact that > it's just a joke. The review of Fevers & Mirrors in the today's Pitchfork > goes on and on about it (an ends up giving the album a 5.4 out of 10) and it > just ends up making the reviewer look really dumb. > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >
[MMouse]: Frank Black: Oddball
Hey, I'm assuming many of you listen to Frank Black...I've heard a little talk about him. Well, he just released an internet-only album at emusic.com. You should check it out. I listened to a few song samples but you can buy it for $8.99. I think it includes 14 songs which are composed of b-sides and other rarities, many of which are remastered. I haven't bought it yet but I will once I get my mom's dern credit card numberBy the way, I just went cd shopping and bought the following: Death Cab for Cutie - Something About Airplanes Bright Eyes - Fevers & Mirrors Dismemberment Plan - Emergency & I Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea I know most of these cds are pretty old and I'm not cool enough for not already having them, but I love all of them. Neutral Milk Hotel took me the longest to get used to, but i like it now. I'll probably end up going out again to get the rest of the cds from each of these bands like I always do. And sorry if you read this again on the Pavement / Modest Mouse list. -PAtrick
[MMouse]: word to star and sdre
word, star. i'm diggin richard buckner addictively these days, and i've always had a thing for silkworm, though usually they just nail it on a few songs per album (except libertine, which is perfect), in my opinion. i've been napstering the sdre album, to see if i want to buy. and it just makes me hanker for diary. i listened to that shit this weekend and i think its a crime they don't play off it anymore live. definitely their best album. this new album DOES sound like Rush, though i know they ain't got no geddy lee. it's just got this crisply-recorded, studio-geek feel to it. can not dig it. anyone out there hear anything about the new bedhead project, called, like the new year or something? apparently they were going to play some shows in NYC before recording an album... -taylor
[MMouse]: Austin
What did I say? I'm glad someone agrees with me. 360 people move here per day (which kinda sucks), and it's the 2nd fastest growing city in the nation (aside from Las Vegas). The only thing that sucks is it doesn't rain as much as it should. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MMouse]: Austin, Texas [NO MODEST MOUSE CONTENT] Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 01:12:29 EDTMIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I used to live there, it's the best place on Earth. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[MMouse]: bright eyes c.d. interview thing
okay see i "get" the interview and i still hate it...i think fevers and mirrors is an amazing album...its breathtaking..but that damned interview does not belong...maybe it would have fit in better on letting off the happiness considering that thats more of a collection of songs..not a really conceptual peice of work like f&mor even on every day and every night it would have been better fitting. i still would not have liked it but it wouldnt have effected the overall quality of the c.d. like it did on fevers and mirrors. love andrew
[MMouse]: magnolia
yeah im a tard mullet..but i just saw magnolia last night (seriously it didnt come to any theaters in this area until now..at the cheapo $1.50 theater) and yeah i love it blah blah blah..i remember a while ago a lot of talk about it on here...like all the odd references to the whole frogs raining down exodus 8:2 passege in the bible...id like to hear comments and maybe some things i would have missed (i didnt pay too much attention to possible clues like the clocks pointing to 8 and 2 and all, i was just soaking the movie in you know) but anyway yeah it was great..so much more sinscere than all the other high quality movies of the past year or two...like, fight club, american beauty...all those...altho they were all good movies..they still had this sleazy hollywood-ness to them underneath...that came out in the way that these movies were, like most hollywood movies..very geared towards white males...has anyone else noticed this? like..its hard to explain..but these movies are very good..but still made with the intention of appealing to the male brain. but anyway, i saw none of this going on in magnolia..it was just great. love andrew
Re: [MMouse]: bright eyes c.d. interview thing
well my point is, whether or not it affects the album, I just don't see how critics could think it was meant to be a serious interview. I guess it doesn't bother me as much cause I usually just skip the song that preceeds it anyways. >From: Andrew Hager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [MMouse]: bright eyes c.d. interview thing >Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 11:50:06 -0400 > >okay see i "get" the interview and i still hate it...i think fevers and >mirrors is an amazing album...its breathtaking..but that damned >interview does not belong...maybe it would have fit in better on letting >off the happiness considering that thats more of a collection of >songs..not a really conceptual peice of work like f&mor even on every >day and every night it would have been better fitting. i still would >not have liked it but it wouldnt have effected the overall quality of the >c.d. like it did on fevers and mirrors. >love >andrew > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [MMouse]: bright eyes c.d. interview thing
i really dont think it effects f&m at all. i have the lp so just cant skip thru it as easy and i just take it as another song almost. it doesnt bother me. pants. ryan
Re: [MMouse]: pants/Re: additions
<< Goddamn, i fucking love the blues explosion... >> but they're not as good as the oblivians were. <> or tom waits. or whats most criminal of all, the white stripes. "de stijl" would be the record of the year were it not for modest mouse and dillinger four's.
Re: [MMouse]: magnolia
> yeah im a tard mullet..but i just saw magnolia last night (seriously it didnt come to any theaters in this area until now..at the cheapo $1.50 > theater) and yeah i love it blah blah blah..i remember a while ago a lot of talk about it on here...like all the odd references to the whole > frogs raining down exodus 8:2 passege in the bible...id like to hear comments and maybe some things i would have missed (i didnt pay too much > attention to possible clues like the clocks pointing to 8 and 2 and all, i was just soaking the movie in you know) but anyway yeah it was > great..so much more sinscere than all the other high quality movies of the past year or two...like, fight club, american beauty...all > those...altho they were all good movies..they still had this sleazy hollywood-ness to them underneath...that came out in the way that these > movies were, like most hollywood movies..very geared towards white males...has anyone else noticed this? like..its hard to explain..but these > movies are very good..but still made with the intention of appealing to the male brain. but anyway, i saw none of this going on in magnolia..it > was just great. i think paul thomas anderson, as a screenplay writer and a director, is brilliant. i think i like him most of all because he's not one of those "i'm gonna hit you all with something REALLY fresh that only i am cool enough to write!" i HATE quentin terrentino for that reason. i like "pulp ficton" and "resevoir(sp i know) dogs" but he in general makes me sick. i don't believe paul thomas anderson is trying to do that...cos there's a certain kindness in all his movies and he has the ability to make dorky people seem nice and cool. actually speaking of which, i didn't think "fight club" was high quality at all ;) the only thing i did find entertaining about that movie was when the screen portrayed his apartment as a catalog. that was great. i just thought "magnolia" was a really great movie...that and "american beauty" are probably my two favorites from 1999. - amy
Re: [MMouse]: magnolia
if you liked magnolia, check out the movie that magnolia ripped off. its called "short cuts" and if you watch it...you will totally notice the blatent simalarities. dont get me wrong, i loved magnolia, but its a rip off of 1992's "short cuts". also highly recomended. ~blake - Original Message - From: Andrew Hager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 8:59 AM Subject: [MMouse]: magnolia > yeah im a tard mullet..but i just saw magnolia last night (seriously it didnt come to any theaters in this area until now..at the cheapo $1.50 > theater) and yeah i love it blah blah blah..i remember a while ago a lot of talk about it on here...like all the odd references to the whole > frogs raining down exodus 8:2 passege in the bible...id like to hear comments and maybe some things i would have missed (i didnt pay too much > attention to possible clues like the clocks pointing to 8 and 2 and all, i was just soaking the movie in you know) but anyway yeah it was > great..so much more sinscere than all the other high quality movies of the past year or two...like, fight club, american beauty...all > those...altho they were all good movies..they still had this sleazy hollywood-ness to them underneath...that came out in the way that these > movies were, like most hollywood movies..very geared towards white males...has anyone else noticed this? like..its hard to explain..but these > movies are very good..but still made with the intention of appealing to the male brain. but anyway, i saw none of this going on in magnolia..it > was just great. > love > andrew > > >
[MMouse]: RE: God Ween Satan
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I've gone all weekend with this uneasy feeling because some > caloused person casually said on this > mail list last week, 'saw ween.. it was boring'. caloused? i don't have an calluses... > I just am not sure who goes to a ween show in the first place > if they would find it boring??? i didn't know it would be boring. well, actually i had a feeling i would end up being bored, but i hoped it would be entertaining. i get in free to that particular venue through my job, and my boyfriend is a relatively new fan of Ween, so he's never seen them. his best friend cancelled on him, so i got the privilege of going with him. > Anyways, I seriously doubt any band touring right now could > out-do Ween's live show, and if you think you know > of one, let me know and I'll go see them (I have airlines > miles, remember?) modest mouse? > I didn't always like Ween because it bugged me so much that I > couldn't figure out where they were coming from.. > were they being funny? Did they have some hidden meanings in > everything they did? Then I finally figured it > out that the only place they are coming from is the land of > good music and it didn't require that you 'get it' or not. > So, maybe you don't even like Ween, but I wish you did. You > would be better for it. Most indie bands explore > such a small space.. even though they do it well... but Ween > fully exploits > the potential that is out there in music and in the world.. > for that reason > I can mention them with people like Zappa because they make > music that > does not follow trends, nor does it make trends happen. > That's what > independent music should be, and what it still is to Ween. hmm...i don't agree with you. how would i be better for liking ween? maybe there is nothing to get, or maybe there is, and i just don't get it. either way, i don't "get" anything from their music, apart from a few chuckles, when they seem to be making fun of metal/classic rock/prog/etc. but a little bit of that goes a LONG way. my boyfriend though thoroughly loved the 2 hour show so don't despair Zach, at least one of us "gets" it... __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [MMouse]: magnolia
> if you liked magnolia, check out the movie that magnolia ripped off. its > called "short cuts" and if you watch it...you will totally notice the > blatent simalarities. dont get me wrong, i loved magnolia, but its a rip > off of 1992's "short cuts". also highly recomended. i think this has been discussed on the list before. in fact, i think i was the one who started this thread :P i did notice some significant similarities between the two movies, but not enough to consider "magnolia" a rip-off. what i noticed was that all the people in the movie are somehow connected in one way or another. i think that "short cuts" had the intensity that "magnolia" did, but i liked "magnolia" much more and i think it's pretty original considering the similarities between the two movies. for movies with the same type of format see: happiness (a personal favorite with my love, philip seymour hoffman once again) nashville (it's either that or tennessee..but i think it's nashville and it's made by the same guy who did "short cuts") i'm trying to think what else those are the only ones i can think of right now. everyone must see happiness. philip seymour hoffman's natural ggguu drrool - amy
Re: [MMouse]: magnolia
Robert Altman did shortcuts, nashville, the player (which i liked better than short cuts), cookies furtune, pret a porter, and a bunch o' other stuff. -w- - Original Message - From: "norske ho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [MMouse]: magnolia > > if you liked magnolia, check out the movie that magnolia ripped off. its > > called "short cuts" and if you watch it...you will totally notice the > > blatent simalarities. dont get me wrong, i loved magnolia, but its a rip > > off of 1992's "short cuts". also highly recomended. > > i think this has been discussed on the list before. in fact, i think i was > the one who started this thread :P i did notice some significant > similarities between the two movies, but not enough to consider "magnolia" > a rip-off. what i noticed was that all the people in the movie are somehow > connected in one way or another. i think that "short cuts" had the > intensity that "magnolia" did, but i liked "magnolia" much more and i think > it's pretty original considering the similarities between the two movies. > for movies with the same type of format see: > happiness (a personal favorite with my love, philip seymour hoffman once > again) > nashville (it's either that or tennessee..but i think it's nashville and > it's made by the same guy who did "short cuts") > i'm trying to think what else > those are the only ones i can think of right now. everyone must see > happiness. > philip seymour hoffman's natural ggguu > drrool > - amy >
[MMouse]: short cuts/white stripes
> From: "Blake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MMouse]: magnolia > > if you liked magnolia, check out the movie that magnolia > ripped off. its > called "short cuts" and if you watch it...you will totally > notice the > blatent simalarities. dont get me wrong, i loved magnolia, > but its a rip off of 1992's "short cuts". also highly > recomended. weird. i just saw short cuts like 2 weeks ago. it's really good. afterwards i totally thought "so that's where magnolia got it's inspiration from...". i esp. liked the part with Huey Lewis pissing. first concert i ever went: Huey Lewis and the News, Sports tour with my mom and dad, i was like 8. i just saw the White Stripes open for weezer a few weeks ago. was impressed, do they have anything out? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
[MMouse]: RE: God Ween Satan
From: One Hundred Watt Warlock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: God Ween Satan > I've gone all weekend with this uneasy feeling because some > caloused person casually said on this > mail list last week, 'saw ween.. it was boring'. caloused? i don't have an calluses... I'm happy you stood up to be counted and your post was not about pants or scants or shants. I only meant callused in a sense that you were indifferent to my feelings about Ween, not knowing I would be seeing them live only days after you posted. I'm very sensitive like that. I can see now how you went to the show and didn't like them, since it was a freebie. I can say with conviction that the Mouse, while putting on an impressive live show, doesn't come close to Ween's. Having seen MM 4 times since Decemeber, I would say I saw them play about 40 songs total. Granted, 2 shows were 50 min sets at festivals, and 1 show was cut short due to the sickness in Dallas. But out of those 40 songs they probably played about 20 unique songs. Maybe 25. I can't do the math. In seeing Ween 1 night, they played about 30 songs, and seeing them 2 nights they played 60 songs, with about 55 unique songs.. and they do this all across the country every night! MM has a way to go to get where Ween is (in a live show). Many of MM's shows I've seen have been marred, or perhaps improved by, Isaac's antics... at SXSW he pulled his guitar plug out because he walked to far from the amp and then he tried to plug it back in for 2 minutes while Eric and Jeremiah played a little breakdown the whole time. It actually added to the show (for me) but I wouldn't go so far as to say MM has a better live show because Isaac screws up frequently (I also enjoy when he gets down on his knees and starts smacking his floor peddles with his fist because they aren't making the right sounds come out). So, if you asked who was my favorite band right now, I'd still have to say Pavement. If you asked for my second favorite band, I'd have to think about it a minute, and probably say Built to Spill. Then if you asked for my third favorite band, or maybe my second favorite band, I'd say Modest Mouse. But if you asked who put on the best live show, without a doubt, Ween. Oh yeah, when I said you would be a better person by listening to ween I meant the collective you, like you all people on the modest mouse list, or the Texan, Ya'll people on the modest mouse list. And I was kidding, although you would be a better person for it, so listen to Baby Bitch or Buckingham Green or Mutilated Lips and if you still don't like Ween at all, then I guess you (all) are off the hook. > I just am not sure who goes to a ween show in the first place > if they would find it boring??? i didn't know it would be boring. well, actually i had a feeling i would end up being bored, but i hoped it would be entertaining. i get in free to that particular venue through my job, and my boyfriend is a relatively new fan of Ween, so he's never seen them. his best friend cancelled on him, so i got the privilege of going with him. > Anyways, I seriously doubt any band touring right now could > out-do Ween's live show, and if you think you know > of one, let me know and I'll go see them (I have airlines > miles, remember?) modest mouse? > I didn't always like Ween because it bugged me so much that I > couldn't figure out where they were coming from.. > were they being funny? Did they have some hidden meanings in > everything they did? Then I finally figured it > out that the only place they are coming from is the land of > good music and it didn't require that you 'get it' or not. > So, maybe you don't even like Ween, but I wish you did. You > would be better for it. Most indie bands explore > such a small space.. even though they do it well... but Ween > fully exploits > the potential that is out there in music and in the world.. > for that reason > I can mention them with people like Zappa because they make > music that > does not follow trends, nor does it make trends happen. > That's what > independent music should be, and what it still is to Ween. hmm...i don't agree with you. how would i be better for liking ween? maybe there is nothing to get, or maybe there is, and i just don't get it. either way, i don't "get" anything from their music, apart from a few chuckles, when they seem to be making fun of metal/classic rock/prog/etc. but a little bit of that goes a LONG way. my boyfriend though thoroughly loved the 2 hour show so don't despair Zach, at least one of us "gets" it... __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ --- END modestmouse.v001.n1040 --- To unsubscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word 'unsubscribe' in the body of the message.
Re: [MMouse]: magnolia
hahahahaha, happiness is the most briliant movie made in 1998/1999. i loved that movie so much. but about the magnolia and short-cuts thing...i wasnt on the list when you had the discussion...but the similarities i noticed were as follows: ~the problems of random peoples everyday lives. ~some big dissaster that makes everybody wonder in the end. sure there are more, but those are main story plots, and when main story plots are copied, it can be considered a rip-off. and i say rip-off lightly because i would never in anyway talk shit on PT Anderson. ~blake - Original Message - From: norske ho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [MMouse]: magnolia > > if you liked magnolia, check out the movie that magnolia ripped off. its > > called "short cuts" and if you watch it...you will totally notice the > > blatent simalarities. dont get me wrong, i loved magnolia, but its a rip > > off of 1992's "short cuts". also highly recomended. > > i think this has been discussed on the list before. in fact, i think i was > the one who started this thread :P i did notice some significant > similarities between the two movies, but not enough to consider "magnolia" > a rip-off. what i noticed was that all the people in the movie are somehow > connected in one way or another. i think that "short cuts" had the > intensity that "magnolia" did, but i liked "magnolia" much more and i think > it's pretty original considering the similarities between the two movies. > for movies with the same type of format see: > happiness (a personal favorite with my love, philip seymour hoffman once > again) > nashville (it's either that or tennessee..but i think it's nashville and > it's made by the same guy who did "short cuts") > i'm trying to think what else > those are the only ones i can think of right now. everyone must see > happiness. > philip seymour hoffman's natural ggguu > drrool > - amy > >
RE: [MMouse]: magnolia
This is not to Blake in particular, but to everyone concerning the blooming Magnolia thread... I should probably not let my film geek side show in public, but I can't help it. I love watching boogie nights and I've seen it half a dozen times, and I have seen Magnolia twice and was not at all bored during it's 3 hour running time HOWEVER, I think Paul Thomas Anderson is a big, overrated, hack! When Boogie Nights came out, Ent. Weekly and Premier and all these other mags kept saying.. "Move over Tarantino AND Scorsese..." and then I see Boogie Nights and I can't believe how much this movie is just a conglomeration of Scorsese and Tarantinoesque things wrapped up in a story about Porn. The last scene is pure Raging Bull except there was a dong. Granted, that's a great thing to have a story about, but his whole style to me is so much aped from QT, Scorsese, and Robert Altman. People say the same about QT for taking so much from other directors, but he spreads it around to dozens of films from all time periods, not just make such a clear take on Scorsese films... PTA has violence, and blood splatter, and long takes, and dialogue..so Scorsese it puts me off. Again, I like watching his films.. the performances are so good and the actors he uses are the best around.. the stories are fun... and he can tell a good story.. but I guess the film geek in me just can't take it when he tries to go toe to toe with QT or Scorsese because he comes up short and his films, while entertaining, are no Mean Streets, Taxi Drivers, Raging Bulls, Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fictions. Oh yeah, on Magnolia.. some things I didn't like were the stories at the begining... as far as I know, 2 or 3 of those are urban legends, although I think I read the one about the kid jumping off the building was actually the true one. Anyways, I expected the actual movie to have some sort of bizzare tie in also, but in the end the story only has loose connections in the same style as Short Cuts or Nashville. I was expecting the stories to have some cause and effect like the short tales at the begining would have you think would happen. It was like PTA touched me in the morning and walked away. I think the movie would have been as good or better without the little stories, as good as they were. Save them for the DVD. And the numbers.. the numbers are the bible versus that tell about the frogs and what not and you can see them here and there in the movie.. however, they are just there and fun to look for. There is no deep symbolism to be read in to it all... nothing compared to Pulp Fiction which has so much heaped on in so many layers. Good things - the musical number in Magnolia was very ballsy and original.. I liked it. Soundtrack by aimee mann is great. I love, uhm, what's his name, John C. Riley.. he's the average guy that you don't see in films much anymore.. he's so good.. him losing his gun is my favorite part of Magnolia. I went and saw Perfect Storm because A. it was at the Mann Chinese, and B. he was in it. I regret that now, but I still like John C. Riley. Check out Hard Eight, PTA's first film as it's damned good and doesn't rub me the wrong way like his other movies when he became the newest 'genious' on the block. Oh yeah, PTA does write really strong female characters which is really rare these days. So props to him for that. I say really strong, maybe just strong. Hal Hartley and John Sayles write them stronger (if we are talking about men writing female characters). -- From: "Blake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MMouse]: magnolia if you liked magnolia, check out the movie that magnolia ripped off. its called "short cuts" and if you watch it...you will totally notice the blatent simalarities. dont get me wrong, i loved magnolia, but its a rip off of 1992's "short cuts". also highly recomended.
[MMouse]: Re: additions
didnt quote star so i made no sense. << i wasn't going to post either, but i gotta throw a shout-out to my peeps, yo. no one mentioned richard buckner, joel rl phelps or silkworm. surely, this is criminal. star >> tom waits, white stripes
Re: [MMouse]: magnolia
ok, i by no means said that PTA was anywhere near as good as scorsese, tarantino, or many other directors who i love. the way they made deniro look in the end of raging bull was a stroke of genius...look at the similarities to him in the end of the movie, and in "analize this". its crazy how much they look alike and how acurate he was in making the character to future scale. but then again, deniro is a brilian actor. and that is a different story. about perfect storm...that movie made me wanna live in communist russia where artistic expression is prohibited. that movie sucked! but the special effects were rad, and mark whalberg can go wrong, except in in taking the role. ~blake - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 2:19 PM Subject: RE: [MMouse]: magnolia > This is not to Blake in particular, but to everyone concerning the blooming > Magnolia thread... > > I should probably not let my film geek side show in public, but I can't help > it. > > I love watching boogie nights and I've seen it half a dozen times, and I > have seen Magnolia > twice and was not at all bored during it's 3 hour running time > > HOWEVER, I think Paul Thomas Anderson is a big, overrated, hack! > > When Boogie Nights came out, Ent. Weekly and Premier and all these other > mags kept saying.. > "Move over Tarantino AND Scorsese..." and then I see Boogie Nights and I > can't believe how much > this movie is just a conglomeration of Scorsese and Tarantinoesque things > wrapped up in a story > about Porn. The last scene is pure Raging Bull except there was a dong. > Granted, that's a great thing to have a story about, but his whole style to > me is so much aped from QT, Scorsese, and Robert Altman. People say the > same about QT for taking so much from other directors, but he spreads it > around to dozens of films from all time periods, not just make such a clear > take on Scorsese films... PTA has violence, and blood splatter, and long > takes, and dialogue..so Scorsese it puts me off. Again, I like watching his > films.. the performances are so good and the actors he uses are the best > around.. the stories are fun... and he can tell a good story.. but I guess > the film geek in me just can't take it when he tries to go toe to toe with > QT or Scorsese because he comes up short and his films, while entertaining, > are no Mean Streets, Taxi Drivers, Raging Bulls, Reservoir Dogs or Pulp > Fictions. > > Oh yeah, on Magnolia.. some things I didn't like were the stories at the > begining... as far as I know, 2 or 3 of those are urban legends, although I > think I read the one about the kid jumping off the building was actually the > true one. Anyways, I expected the actual movie to have some sort of bizzare > tie in also, but in the end the story only has loose connections in the same > style as Short Cuts or > Nashville. I was expecting the stories to have some cause and effect like > the short tales at the begining would have you think would happen. It was > like PTA touched me in the morning and walked away. > I think the movie would have been as good or better without the little > stories, as good as they were. Save them for the DVD. And the numbers.. > the numbers are the bible versus that tell about the frogs and what not and > you can see them here and there in the movie.. however, they are just there > and fun to look for. There is no deep symbolism to be read in to it all... > nothing compared to Pulp Fiction which has so much heaped on in so many > layers. > > Good things - the musical number in Magnolia was very ballsy and original.. > I liked it. Soundtrack > by aimee mann is great. I love, uhm, what's his name, John C. Riley.. he's > the average guy that you don't see in films much anymore.. he's so good.. > him losing his gun is my favorite part of Magnolia. > I went and saw Perfect Storm because A. it was at the Mann Chinese, and B. > he was in it. I regret that now, but I still like John C. Riley. Check out > Hard Eight, PTA's first film as it's damned good and doesn't rub me the > wrong way like his other movies when he became the newest 'genious' on the > block. > > Oh yeah, PTA does write really strong female characters which is really rare > these days. So props > to him for that. I say really strong, maybe just strong. Hal Hartley and > John Sayles write them stronger (if we are talking about men writing female > characters). > > -- > > From: "Blake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MMouse]: magnolia > > > if you liked magnolia, check out the movie that magnolia ripped off. its > called "short cuts" and if you watch it...you will totally notice the > blatent simalarities. dont get me wrong, i loved magnolia, but its a rip > off of 1992's "short cuts". also highly recomended. > >
[MMouse]: OFF TOPIC: white stripes/MULTIBALL
yeah dogg the white stripes have a song with the dirtbombs on a split 7" that comes packaed with a MULTIBALL magazine from last month or something. MULTIBALL magazine. the only magazine i know dedicated to garage punk and pinball russ
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If by chance anyone does dig Ween and you will be beside your computer tomorrow morning, I am planning on broadcasting the first 50 minutes of their live show here Saturday night in Austin on my shoutcast. Actually, maybe the afternoon is better, say 3:00 CST, 1:00 California, 4:00 EST. Open winamp or real player and hit control-L and paste in either number: 209.217.181.109:8000 (Main Number) 216.32.166.89:21832 (Relay Number) Web page to see what's playing: http://fc.net/~zachd/shout.htm Also you can do requests from there, I have all things Mouse including live stuff if you want to request it via the web page. I can't see exactly who is listening, but I've been averaging 9-10 most of the day instead of 4-5, so if any of the people listening are you guys - thanks!
[MMouse]: magnolia
sorry, friend but Magnolia is no ripoff. First, if anything, magnolia is an homage (big difference) to Nashville, which Altman made in the 70's. If you watch that movie (brilliant, but not as important as magnolia) you will notice that triplett and the main old guy are both in magnolia, which shows PTA's sense of humor and his knowledge that he was "ripping off" altman. Second, Short Cuts is an adaptation of a Raymond Carver collection of stories, Magnolia is an original. Third, just because julianne moore is in it also doesnt make it a ripoff. Fourth, buy the new lifter puller record, It's great __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
[MMouse]: WE ARE LIVE
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Re: [MMouse]: magnolia
Its been a while since ive seen the movie, and its been a while since this group had a rather long discusion on it, but i remember us all talking about the occurance of the number 86 was it? or 28, or 82, something with and 8, i was wondering if anyone had a tally of how many times it appeared in the film.. just curious dusty springfield "the d in detroit" Zach Kuhn wrote: > sorry, friend but Magnolia is no ripoff. > > First, if anything, magnolia is an homage (big > difference) to Nashville, which Altman made in the > 70's. If you watch that movie (brilliant, but not as > important as magnolia) you will notice that triplett > and the main old guy are both in magnolia, which shows > PTA's sense of humor and his knowledge that he was > "ripping off" altman. > > Second, Short Cuts is an adaptation of a Raymond > Carver collection of stories, Magnolia is an original. > > Third, just because julianne moore is in it also > doesnt make it a ripoff. > > Fourth, buy the new lifter puller record, It's great > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail ? Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [MMouse]: magnolia
Ah? Magnolia a rip off of Short Cuts?! C'mon, these are two different films. Unless you call intertwining stories a rip- off. If that's the case, then Magnolia & Short Cuts are ripping off several other films. Anyway, if you were to put boxing gloves on the two, it'd be Magnolia in the 3rd round. KO'd again. On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Blake wrote: > if you liked magnolia, check out the movie that magnolia ripped off. its > called "short cuts" and if you watch it...you will totally notice the > blatent simalarities. dont get me wrong, i loved magnolia, but its a rip > off of 1992's "short cuts". also highly recomended. > > ~blake > > - Original Message - > From: Andrew Hager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 8:59 AM > Subject: [MMouse]: magnolia > > > > yeah im a tard mullet..but i just saw magnolia last night (seriously it > didnt come to any theaters in this area until now..at the cheapo $1.50 > > theater) and yeah i love it blah blah blah..i remember a while ago a lot > of talk about it on here...like all the odd references to the whole > > frogs raining down exodus 8:2 passege in the bible...id like to hear > comments and maybe some things i would have missed (i didnt pay too much > > attention to possible clues like the clocks pointing to 8 and 2 and all, i > was just soaking the movie in you know) but anyway yeah it was > > great..so much more sinscere than all the other high quality movies of the > past year or two...like, fight club, american beauty...all > > those...altho they were all good movies..they still had this sleazy > hollywood-ness to them underneath...that came out in the way that these > > movies were, like most hollywood movies..very geared towards white > males...has anyone else noticed this? like..its hard to explain..but these > > movies are very good..but still made with the intention of appealing to > the male brain. but anyway, i saw none of this going on in magnolia..it > > was just great. > > love > > andrew > > > > > > > >
[MMouse]: I don't know but I've been told...DP, DCFC, BE...
I remember someone mentioning the lyrics in between two songs on M & A and how he/she thought they were familiar (Something like "I don't know but I've been told, you never die (something...) and you never grow old"). Well, I was minding my own business in the dentist's chair when Last Dance With Mary Jane by Tom Petty came on the radio. Petty sings these exact lyrics. However, I still feel like I've heard the lyrics somewhere else... Switching topicswhat would you consider to be the best albums by The Dismemberment Plan, Death Cab for Cutie, and Bright Eyes. I have one of each of their cds (Emergency & I, Something About Airplanes, Fevers and Mirrors) and plan to get the rest but I'd like to know in what order I should buy as I am limited in the moolah department. -PAtrick
[MMouse]: [OT] Staged interviews for show-casing cleverness
On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, George ? wrote: > I'm dumb-founded that people are taking it seriously. Personally, I thought > it was really funny, and can't imagine hopw anyone could miss the fact that > it's just a joke. The review of Fevers & Mirrors in the today's Pitchfork > goes on and on about it. Actually, the review only focused on (what will now be called) 'the interview' for 1 paragraph. (That's 1/6th the review & hardly constitutes going 'on and on about.') Also, it wasn't devoid of praise (gasp)... I agree, Conor has hellalot of talent, it's only going to develop into finer things. Personally, what bothers me is people shuffling their feet & sniffling through their nose. J.
Re: [MMouse]: I don't know but I've been told...DP, DCFC, BE...
On Tue, 11 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I remember someone mentioning the lyrics in between two songs on M & A and > how he/she thought they were familiar (Something like "I don't know but I've > been told, you never die (something...) and you never grow old"). Well, I > was minding my own business in the dentist's chair when Last Dance With Mary > Jane by Tom Petty came on the radio. Petty sings these exact lyrics. > However, I still feel like I've heard the lyrics somewhere else... Actually, that might be something you remember from Sunday school. "You'll never die & you'll never grow old" is a pretty common theme in organized religious views of heaven. I don't listen to Petty's lyrics indepth enough to comment on that part (who knew smoking marijuana would make you think of something like the afterlife?! Hah.) Maybe it was the Novicane? Justin
[MMouse]: This couldn't be more off topic...
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