Installing mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl?
Hi, Under Ubuntu 10.04, is it possible to install mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl for the same Apache? I have the default build of Apache that comes with Ubuntu and the default Perl that comes with Ubuntu and I also have the mod_perl installed with apt-get. I want to test ActivePerl 5.14 and I want to install Mod_perl for it but I wouldn't like to need uninstalling the actual Apache/Perl/mod_perl. Thanks. --Octavian
Re: Installing mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl?
Octavian Rasnita wrote: Hi, Under Ubuntu 10.04, is it possible to install mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl for the same Apache? I have the default build of Apache that comes with Ubuntu and the default Perl that comes with Ubuntu and I also have the mod_perl installed with apt-get. I want to test ActivePerl 5.14 and I want to install Mod_perl for it but I wouldn't like to need uninstalling the actual Apache/Perl/mod_perl. In my opinion, the short practical answer is no. It is technically possible, but you are going to spend so much time trying to combine this properly, that it is probably not worth the effort. You would save yourself a lot of time by using another host, installing your chosen versions of Apache and Perl on it, and then installing mod_perl from source, pointing it to the installed Apache and Perl. Personal opinion, all of it. YMMV.
Re: Installing mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl?
On Monday, July 11, 2011 09:13:25 Octavian Rasnita wrote: I want to test ActivePerl 5.14 and I want to install Mod_perl for it but I wouldn't like to need uninstalling the actual Apache/Perl/mod_perl. Don't you have separate module libraries? Anyway, you always can use the DESTDIR=... option: make DESTDIR=/some/where install This takes /some/where as root directory. You then have to use PerlSwitches -I... or similar in the httpd.conf. You also have to modify the LoadModule statement to load the right modperl. If you want to compile additional modules make sure they use the right header files and also use the DESTDIR option. Torsten Förtsch -- Need professional modperl support? Hire me! (http://foertsch.name) Like fantasy? http://kabatinte.net
Re: Installing mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl?
Torsten Förtsch wrote: On Monday, July 11, 2011 09:13:25 Octavian Rasnita wrote: I want to test ActivePerl 5.14 and I want to install Mod_perl for it but I wouldn't like to need uninstalling the actual Apache/Perl/mod_perl. Don't you have separate module libraries? Anyway, you always can use the DESTDIR=... option: make DESTDIR=/some/where install This takes /some/where as root directory. You then have to use PerlSwitches -I... or similar in the httpd.conf. You also have to modify the LoadModule statement to load the right modperl. If you want to compile additional modules make sure they use the right header files and also use the DESTDIR option. By personal experience, I believe that this is over-simplifying a bit. Ubuntu/Debian packages are nice, and they just work. But these packages work by putting (very clever) links all over the place, and I wish good luck to someone wanting to combine this with, for example, another perl and a mod_perl installed from source, while keeping the same Apache. (E.g. if it needs changing the LoadModule line in Apache, then of course you cannot run this concurrently with the normal version.) And trying to install a CPAN package over that, to a directory library that is not the default one, is a real pain. At least the last time I tried. Admittedly, I am not the ultimate perl/mod_perl expert, and in the end I will defer to the real experts. But I believe that the OP is not a real expert either, and for now I'll stick to my earlier recommendation.
Re: Installing mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl?
2011/7/11 Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com: Under Ubuntu 10.04, is it possible to install mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl for the same Apache? Just install another apache. It's pretty simple to compile apache and mod_perl against your own perl, and it avoids needing to put a bunch of custom stuff in your httpd.conf to specify library paths, etc. - Perrin
Re: Installing mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl?
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Perrin Harkins per...@elem.com wrote: 2011/7/11 Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com: Under Ubuntu 10.04, is it possible to install mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl for the same Apache? Just install another apache. It's pretty simple to compile apache and mod_perl against your own perl, and it avoids needing to put a bunch of custom stuff in your httpd.conf to specify library paths, etc. But you will likely want to compile Apache with the --with-included-apr so that it uses the included apr libraries and not those provided by Ubuntu.
Re: Installing mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl?
From: Fred Moyer f...@redhotpenguin.com On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Perrin Harkins per...@elem.com wrote: 2011/7/11 Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com: Under Ubuntu 10.04, is it possible to install mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl for the same Apache? Just install another apache. It's pretty simple to compile apache and mod_perl against your own perl, and it avoids needing to put a bunch of custom stuff in your httpd.conf to specify library paths, etc. But you will likely want to compile Apache with the --with-included-apr so that it uses the included apr libraries and not those provided by Ubuntu. Thanks for the suggestion. What's the problem with the one provided by Ubuntu? Will it be used by default if I will compile Apache, or it won't be used at all? Thanks.
Re: Installing mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl?
From: Perrin Harkins per...@elem.com 2011/7/11 Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com: Under Ubuntu 10.04, is it possible to install mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl for the same Apache? Just install another apache. It's pretty simple to compile apache and mod_perl against your own perl, and it avoids needing to put a bunch of custom stuff in your httpd.conf to specify library paths, etc. - Perrin Mmm, I like the word simple :-) I am still afraid to compile Perl+Apache+mod_perl since the old days when I needed to do that because there were no other solutions, and when I needed to face some ugly compiling errors... But if you say that it is simple, I will try it. ...because my current solution is not less uglier. I have installed Apache using apt-get, multiplied it to have 3 instances of Apache, with their own services and settings in /etc and due to the way Apache is installed under Ubuntu it was not very funny. (Because I needed to test an Apache-proxy and 2 Apache back-ends with mod_perl on the same machine... Thanks. Octavian
Re: Installing mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl?
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com wrote: From: Perrin Harkins per...@elem.com I am still afraid to compile Perl+Apache+mod_perl since the old days when I needed to do that because there were no other solutions, and when I needed to face some ugly compiling errors... But if you say that it is simple, I will try it. I know some people have issues but I've never had any on common Linux platforms. It complies very nicely. Just be sure to use the perl you want to compile against when running Makefile.PL for mod_perl. - Perrin
Re: Installing mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl?
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Perrin Harkins per...@elem.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com wrote: From: Perrin Harkins per...@elem.com I am still afraid to compile Perl+Apache+mod_perl since the old days when I needed to do that because there were no other solutions, and when I needed to face some ugly compiling errors... But if you say that it is simple, I will try it. I know some people have issues but I've never had any on common Linux platforms. It complies very nicely. Just be sure to use the perl you want to compile against when running Makefile.PL for mod_perl. and the desired apxs binary with: /my/perl Makefile.PL MP_APXS=/my/apxs By default version 2.0.5 will look for installed apxs/apxs2 binaries in certain places like your PATH and use those by default if you don't explicitly specify which apxs binary to use.
Re: Installing mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl?
From: Fred Moyer f...@redhotpenguin.com On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Perrin Harkins per...@elem.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Octavian Rasnita orasn...@gmail.com wrote: From: Perrin Harkins per...@elem.com I am still afraid to compile Perl+Apache+mod_perl since the old days when I needed to do that because there were no other solutions, and when I needed to face some ugly compiling errors... But if you say that it is simple, I will try it. I know some people have issues but I've never had any on common Linux platforms. It complies very nicely. Just be sure to use the perl you want to compile against when running Makefile.PL for mod_perl. and the desired apxs binary with: /my/perl Makefile.PL MP_APXS=/my/apxs By default version 2.0.5 will look for installed apxs/apxs2 binaries in certain places like your PATH and use those by default if you don't explicitly specify which apxs binary to use. Thank you for all the tips, Fred. Octavian
Re: Installing mod_perl for 2 versions of Perl?
Le lundi 11 juillet 2011 à 22:14 +0300, Octavian Rasnita a écrit : Mmm, I like the word simple :-) These are the notes I took about a year ago for compilation on Debian of Perl/Apache2/Mod_perl2. If I am not mistaken, they are all you need. Look for 'Compilation' under each title. Perl Download source wget -c http://www.cpan.org/src/stable.tar.gz Compilation ./Configure -Dcc=gcc -Dprefix=/home/perl/5.X.X -Dextras=Bundle::LWP DBI ExtUtils::XSBuilder DBD::Pg DBD::SQLite Date::Simple URI::Escape Apache::Session Apache::DBI make make test make install Installation des modules /home/perl/5.X.X/bin/perl -MCPAN -e shell Apache2 Guide d'installation http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/install/install.html Download source wget -c http://apache.crihan.fr/dist/httpd/httpd-2.X.X.tar.gz Compilation mkdir /home/httpd/2.X.X CC=gcc-4.1 ./configure --prefix=/home/httpd/2.X.X --enable-module=shared --enable-rewrite=shared --enable-dir=shared make make install Init.d script scp /etc/init.d/apache2 192.168.1.6:'/etc/init.d' Populate rc?.d update-rc.d apache2 defaults 91 Mod_perl Download source http://perl.apache.org/download/index.html Compilation /home/perl/5.X.X/bin/perl Makefile.PL MP_AP_PREFIX=/home/httpd/2.X.X make make test make install Éditer httpd.conf LoadModule perl_module modules/mod_perl.so Libapreq2 Download source wget -c http://mirror.mkhelif.fr/apache/httpd/libapreq/libapreq2-2.08.tar.gz Compilation /home/perl/5.X.X/bin/perl Makefile.PL --with-apache2-apxs=/home/httpd/2.X.X/bin/apxs --with-expat=/home/httpd/2.X.X/ make make test make install edit httpd.conf LoadModule apreq_module /home/httpd/2.X.X/modules/mod_apreq2.so -- Vincent Veyron http://marica.fr/ Logiciel de gestion des sinistres et des contentieux pour le service juridique
