[MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.htmlhttp://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: mailto:sa...@comic-art.comRichard Halegua Comic Art To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.htmlhttp://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
* I've remarked several times since the 1990s on MoPo about the love-hate relationship people have towards 2001, which is also one of my fav films about man being the only living species on earth that has a self-awareness of being a living, thinking, breathing thing - that's forever trying to find answers to things that are within - and far beyond his reach. * But here's the oddest thing. In the 42 years since its release - excepting the chick-nerds you see at sci-fi and comic conventions - I HAVE NEVER MET ONE WOMAN WHO LOVES 2001. Years ago I used to try to explain the picture to women and they'd just give me that totally blank, you are such an unattractive and pretentious nerd stare. So I stopped. Seriously, if women aren't already tepid about it, they outright hate it - and are puzzled that it's on any list of top films. It's like the sci-fi equivalent to Last Year at Marienbad. Amongst film fans, arguments always break out about it merits, so I generally don't like to bring it up to show my age. It's been over-hyped by baby boomers born from 1945 to 1964. Generation X'rs born from 1965-1979 feel it's overrated and Generation Y'rs born from 1980 to 1994 think it's like watching a black-and-white-silent-movie with no subtitles. New Millennials born after 1995 (who are now smart-alecky 15-year olds) aren't worth trying to make a dent about it. * I think the film is brilliant for its time and still feels undated except for the totally fake-looking, pre-Rick Baker era ape scenes in the beginning. But to be fair, I also get why people feel it's a non-linear/abstract, Jackson Pollock type-of-you-figure-it-out-for-yourself-to-show-you're-hip-bore. -d. Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 01:38:30 -0800 From: sa...@comic-art.com Subject: My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
Is that the movie with the robot with a red eye that talks so slowly I fall asleep? --- On Sat, 5/3/11, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com wrote: From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, 5 March, 2011, 9:38 yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
Phew! I'm glad our 2001 poster does not feature ET-embryo's or boring spaceships ;) ET-embryo and Spaceship Free 2001 Poster Ron - Original Message - From: bqjansen To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest
Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari -- From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List
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I thought 2001 was one of the more uneven movies I have ever seen, with some great sequences and some ultra-tedious ones. I felt similarly about Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon. But I was completely left in the dark by Eyes Wide Shut. Give me the Kubrick that made * The Killinghttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049406/ *, * Paths of Glory http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050825/*, * Lolitahttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056193/ *, and * Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/* I consider them all absolute masterpieces. Sometimes achieving great success allows a director too much control over their movies, and that can be a bad thing. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Phil Edwards p...@cinemarts.com wrote: Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - *From:* Ari Richards ariricha...@yahoo.com.au *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Sent:* Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I *usually* agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari -- *From:* bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU *Sent:* Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely
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That's okay. We took some young folks to see 2001 during it's star-child poster re-release in the early 70s and, despite the colorful goodies we ingested at the time, they were bored to death! About three years later Star Wars was born. Joe B in NOLA --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com wrote: From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 3:38 AM yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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It's like the sci-fi equivalent to Last Year at Marienbad. Now, David, you have mentioned the ULTIMATE bore of all time!!! I rented the blu ray to see the beautiful bw cinematography and see if I could get anything out of this film I was so bored by almost a half-century ago. I made it through 32 minutes. Stunning cinematography! Snore! Joe --- On Sat, 3/5/11, David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com wrote: From: David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 5:27 AM * I've remarked several times since the 1990s on MoPo about the love-hate relationship people have towards 2001, which is also one of my fav films about man being the only living species on earth that has a self-awareness of being a living, thinking, breathing thing - that's forever trying to find answers to things that are within - and far beyond his reach. * But here's the oddest thing. In the 42 years since its release - excepting the chick-nerds you see at sci-fi and comic conventions - I HAVE NEVER MET ONE WOMAN WHO LOVES 2001. Years ago I used to try to explain the picture to women and they'd just give me that totally blank, you are such an unattractive and pretentious nerd stare. So I stopped. Seriously, if women aren't already tepid about it, they outright hate it - and are puzzled that it's on any list of top films. It's like the sci-fi equivalent to Last Year at Marienbad. Amongst film fans, arguments always break out about it merits, so I generally don't like to bring it up to show my age. It's been over-hyped by baby boomers born from 1945 to 1964. Generation X'rs born from 1965-1979 feel it's overrated and Generation Y'rs born from 1980 to 1994 think it's like watching a black-and-white-silent-movie with no subtitles. New Millennials born after 1995 (who are now smart-alecky 15-year olds) aren't worth trying to make a dent about it. * I think the film is brilliant for its time and still feels undated except for the totally fake-looking, pre-Rick Baker era ape scenes in the beginning. But to be fair, I also get why people feel it's a non-linear/abstract, Jackson Pollock type-of-you-figure-it-out-for-yourself-to-show-you're-hip-bore. -d. Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 01:38:30 -0800 From: sa...@comic-art.com Subject: My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author
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I agree, Phil, and with much of what is said here concerning one of my favorite films. I think Kubrick said something like, “You are welcome to speculate…” Yes, Bruce, it is uneven. But when Kus says “I think it is brilliant for its time,” that really is the essence of this film in my opinion. How many great works of art have to be looked at with that eye? Is it boring compared to the comic book Space epics of the late 70s on? Maybe. But remember that the script was co-authored by one of the greatest sci-fi writers Arthur C. Clarke and in an effort to make the film more accessible he published the book after-the-fact. I have the blessing of remembering my first viewing in the early 70s, its first official rerelease and I had read the book prior to. I was awe-struck and amazed!!! I just loved the experience and live in that moment whenever I seen the film since. Yes, I am a guy and perhaps that predisposes me. But isn’t that memory of first experience often what colors our love of anything thereafter, especially art. It is the moment of first viewing, awareness, etc… My opinion; true, true classic and great film by one of the greatest directors! From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Edwards Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:18 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richardsmailto:ariricha...@yahoo.com.au To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nlmailto:w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Artmailto:sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.comhttp://www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edumailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
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I was seated in the balcony of a packed Windsor Cinerama Theater on the first night of 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY's lengthy run in Houston in 1968. Starting with DESTINATION MOON in 1950. I had seen practically every sf flick to grace Houston's big downtown and small neighborhood screens. The good -- DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL, FORBIDDEN PLANET and THE THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD --, the bad -- BRAIN FROM PLANET AROUS, KILLERS FROM SPACE and REPTILICUS -- and the ugly -- PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE, MISSILE TO THE MOON and TEENAGERS FROM OUTER SPACE. As audience, 2001 caught us all offguard. It was long, visually impressive and both jolting and perplexing. It's soundtrack was eerily spartan and devoid of the theramin-type electronic effects that had become cliche' for the genre. An avid science-fiction reader as well, I sat mesmerized, happy to finally see that here was a epic space adventure flavored with realities which we had come to know from films of NASA's Mercury, Gemini and Apollo missions. Naturally, in 1968, the movie made for many great conversations over pie and coffee following each of the four times I saw it on its initial run at The Windsor. Due to the success of 2001, movies like SILENT RUNNING and the television series -- SPACE: 1999 for one -- adopted the austere design of Kubrick's classic. STAR WARS and the advancement of CGI spfx changed all of that. Today, many of our science-fiction films seem like episodes of SPACE PATROL or THE OUTER LIMITS with better soundtracks and eye-dazzling effects. As the years have passed, 2001 has fallen in my film favorites. It is too demanding and laboriously long to just slip into the DVD player end enjoy on a damp evening on the comfy couch with crackling fireplace. Some might even find it boring. You either like 2001 or you don't. I do, but less so than when I first viewed it. Others fall into the camp of the audience member seated next to me in that packed theater in 1968. After the movie ended and the lights came up, a silence had fallen over the confused crowd. After a pregnant pause, my next seat neighbor broke the quiet with his comment, What the hell was that??!! Earl Blair CAPTAIN BIJOU www.captainbijou.com - Original Message - From: Phil Edwards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:18 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he
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I love everything Kubrick did from The Killing right up to and including 2001 (though Spartacus, because it is a conventional 50s spear-and-sandal flick, is a little weak). But after 2001, with every succeeding movie, some of the magic seemed to fade. Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I thought 2001 was one of the more uneven movies I have ever seen, with some great sequences and some ultra-tedious ones. I felt similarly about Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon. But I was completely left in the dark by Eyes Wide Shut. Give me the Kubrick that made The Killing, Paths of Glory, Lolita, and Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb I consider them all absolute masterpieces. Sometimes achieving great success allows a director too much control over their movies, and that can be a bad thing. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Phil Edwards p...@cinemarts.com wrote: Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari -- From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I just wanted you folks to know there actually is someone in our group that doesn't get this film. Hey Sean.. I mean, Hey Buddy, should I get you a copy of the Last Airbender for Christmas?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit
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I have talked with many collectors who don't like 2001 and descriptions such as boring, monotonous, and a waste of time have been uttered. For me, personally, I think it is a masterpiece, but I also saw it in it's original release and I do read science fiction. I think many people seeing it for the first time in more recent years, who have been lulled into believing a sci-fi movie is all about fast paced editing and over the top special effects to bombard you with stimuli, might find 2001 boring. So, to each his own. I do have to disagree with you Dave on Spartacus. I think it is one of the best historical period pieces ever made and an incredible love story. A couple of years ago AFI screened it here in L.A. and Kirk Douglas introduced the movie. It was even more incredible on the big screen at Cinerama. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.com Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:46:38 -0500 From: hah...@sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I love everything Kubrick did from The Killing right up to and including 2001 (though Spartacus, because it is a conventional 50s spear-and-sandal flick, is a little weak). But after 2001, with every succeeding movie, some of the magic seemed to fade. Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I thought 2001 was one of the more uneven movies I have ever seen, with some great sequences and some ultra-tedious ones. I felt similarly about Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon. But I was completely left in the dark by Eyes Wide Shut. Give me the Kubrick that made The Killing, Paths of Glory, Lolita, and Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb I consider them all absolute masterpieces. Sometimes achieving great success allows a director too much control over their movies, and that can be a bad thing. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Phil Edwards p...@cinemarts.com wrote: Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's Sean), but I
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Unlike Bruce, and I assume Dave. I LOVE Eyes Wide Shut. I didn't think I would and put it off for ages. But since then its grown on me every time. Back to 2001, I do find it strange that people I know love to read SF don't like the film, to me as a SF fan (books) SF films are 99% a real let down, being rather Action or Horror (etc) in outerspace, or the future or whatever. Blade Runner, 2001 and Metropolis being the first 3 exceptions that come to mind. Ari From: Dave Rosen hah...@sympatico.ca To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 6 March, 2011 2:46:38 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I love everything Kubrick did from The Killing right up to and including 2001 (though Spartacus, because it is a conventional 50s spear-and-sandal flick, is a little weak). But after 2001, with every succeeding movie, some of the magic seemed to fade. Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:46AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 isa snorefest I thought 2001 was one of the more uneven movies I have everseen, with some great sequences and some ultra-tedious ones. I feltsimilarly about Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon. But I wascompletely left in the dark by Eyes Wide Shut. Give me the Kubrick thatmade The Killing, Paths of Glory, Lolita, and Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learnedto Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb I consider them allabsolute masterpieces. Sometimes achieving great success allows adirector too much control over their movies, and that can be a badthing. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Phil Edwards p...@cinemarts.com wrote: Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with,and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] MyFriend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy tonot stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but alsothat you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters ofET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich -tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking,poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellowbellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going
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I saw this film when it was first released. My friend and I were 8 years old and my mother dropped us off at the Warner Theater in Lynchburg where I grew up. I remember waiting for her after the movie and my friend and I saying, “what on earth did we just see?” I saw it again in college and loved it. All this discussion has made me want to see it again and see what I think it this point in time. -Peter From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:44 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I agree, Phil, and with much of what is said here concerning one of my favorite films. I think Kubrick said something like, “You are welcome to speculate…” Yes, Bruce, it is uneven. But when Kus says “I think it is brilliant for its time,” that really is the essence of this film in my opinion. How many great works of art have to be looked at with that eye? Is it boring compared to the comic book Space epics of the late 70s on? Maybe. But remember that the script was co-authored by one of the greatest sci-fi writers Arthur C. Clarke and in an effort to make the film more accessible he published the book after-the-fact. I have the blessing of remembering my first viewing in the early 70s, its first official rerelease and I had read the book prior to. I was awe-struck and amazed!!! I just loved the experience and live in that moment whenever I seen the film since. Yes, I am a guy and perhaps that predisposes me. But isn’t that memory of first experience often what colors our love of anything thereafter, especially art. It is the moment of first viewing, awareness, etc… My opinion; true, true classic and great film by one of the greatest directors! From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Edwards Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:18 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards mailto:ariricha...@yahoo.com.au To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari _ From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art mailto:sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't want to mention my buddy's name (Sean), because I don't want my buddy (Sean) to get nasty emails from people telling him what a lowbrow movie viewer he must be. It's too bad my buddy (Sean) can't see how intellectually stimulating 2001 is (as are the rest of Kubrick's films - each one is a gem). But to each his own, so I'm not going to mention my buddy's name (it's
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I saw 2001 beamed to a wall from a videoplayer in a discotheque in the early eighties. I was very multimedial then. Maybe that's the reason why I fought it a little slow As I was single at the time I was kind also of distracted every now and again and so I missed a few bits. Maybe I should try and see it again. Still will be bored by the posters though. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 17:09 heeft peter contarino het volgende geschreven: I saw this film when it was first released. My friend and I were 8 years old and my mother dropped us off at the Warner Theater in Lynchburg where I grew up. I remember waiting for her after the movie and my friend and I saying, “what on earth did we just see?” I saw it again in college and loved it. All this discussion has made me want to see it again and see what I think it this point in time. -Peter From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:44 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I agree, Phil, and with much of what is said here concerning one of my favorite films. I think Kubrick said something like, “You are welcome to speculate…” Yes, Bruce, it is uneven. But when Kus says “I think it is brilliant for its time,” that really is the essence of this film in my opinion. How many great works of art have to be looked at with that eye? Is it boring compared to the comic book Space epics of the late 70s on? Maybe. But remember that the script was co-authored by one of the greatest sci-fi writers Arthur C. Clarke and in an effort to make the film more accessible he published the book after-the-fact. I have the blessing of remembering my first viewing in the early 70s, its first official rerelease and I had read the book prior to. I was awe-struck and amazed!!! I just loved the experience and live in that moment whenever I seen the film since. Yes, I am a guy and perhaps that predisposes me. But isn’t that memory of first experience often what colors our love of anything thereafter, especially art. It is the moment of first viewing, awareness, etc… My opinion; true, true classic and great film by one of the greatest directors! From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Edwards Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:18 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/ room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air above ground if he doesn't think 2001 isn't one of the best movies of all time (because it is) well we banter back and forth and he points to these reviews by other obvious idiots http://movie2s.com/movie/18364968/2001:_a_space_odyssey.html I once again tell him how retarded he is and he says it needs more lasers and explosions. if the spaceships could transform into robots it would be much cooler Now I don't want to embarrass my buddy, especially because he is a member of MoPo, so I don't
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I had a 16mm scope film print Of 2001 I would watch with my son... for me the Film was very convoluted yet it also had so many statements that made sense years later. the pace was slow compared to the modern day fast edit we are used to. I never fully understood the film although the cinematography was excellent and it was very original. Recently I made some Clappers and memorabilia for a event in Boston for Douglas Trumbull who did the special effects and also did Star wars and the I remember Brainstorm with Natalie wood that used a process where the film was sped up to create like a Imax effect or HD on Film, I think 2001 was one of the First to cover many sci fi milestones in technical achievements by Doug Trumbull Original Message From: filmfantast...@msn.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:59:28 + I have talked with many collectors who don't like 2001 and descriptions such as boring, monotonous, and a waste of time have been uttered. For me, personally, I think it is a masterpiece, but I also saw it in it's original release and I do read science fiction. I think many people seeing it for the first time in more recent years, who have been lulled into believing a sci-fi movie is all about fast paced editing and over the top special effects to bombard you with stimuli, might find 2001 boring. So, to each his own. I do have to disagree with you Dave on Spartacus. I think it is one of the best historical period pieces ever made and an incredible love story. A couple of years ago AFI screened it here in L.A. and Kirk Douglas introduced the movie. It was even more incredible on the big screen at Cinerama. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.com Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:46:38 -0500 From: hah...@sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I love everything Kubrick did from The Killing right up to and including 2001 (though Spartacus, because it is a conventional 50s spear-and-sandal flick, is a little weak). But after 2001, with every succeeding movie, some of the magic seemed to fade. Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I thought 2001 was one of the more uneven movies I have ever seen, with some great sequences and some ultra-tedious ones. I felt similarly about Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon. But I was completely left in the dark by Eyes Wide Shut. Give me the Kubrick that made The Killing, Paths of Glory, Lolita, and Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb I consider them all absolute masterpieces. Sometimes achieving great success allows a director too much control over their movies, and that can be a bad thing. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Phil Edwards p...@cinemarts.com wrote: Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky, but also that you have to be visually challenged to enjoy the ludicrous posters of ET-embryo's or boring spaceships. Wim Op 5 mrt 2011, om 11:08 heeft Richard Halegua Comic Art het volgende geschreven: Freeman.. email me privately and I'll tell you who he is At 01:46 AM 3/5/2011, Sean Linkenback wrote: Don't keep us in suspense Rich - tell us who it is so Freeman can call him a slime-ball, scum sucking, poop sniffing, warp minded, yeast infected, snot-nosed, yellow bellied, cold-blooded bullying jack-ass - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 4:38 AM Subject: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest yeah so I'm doing my usual thing (working on posters) when I get an email from one of my very best friends in the world and this email is titles snorefest and his email proceeds to tell me just watched one of the boringest movies ever - 2001 of course I told him he makes me sick and that he isn't worthy of breathing air
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I saw 2001 in 1968 at the Windsor Cinerama in Houston in 70MM single lens Cinerama and I was stunned. All I can say is you had to be there. It was the highest of HIFI experiences at that time. Today parts of it look quaint and parts of it are splendid. But at the time the quaint parts were seen as smart futurism and the splendid parts were, well, mind blowing. (Who could have foreseen at that time that the real future in 2001 was Thugs on a Plane.) The truth is, however that forty something years later, like METROPOLIS and other films before it which might also be regarded as dated, it is still being talked about, still being presented, still being lionized and still being ineptly labeled as a snorefest. It had it's detractors in 1968, too. But many more who thought it sensational. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Mar 5, 2011, at 10:15 AM, dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com wrote: I had a 16mm scope film print Of 2001 I would watch with my son... for me the Film was very convoluted yet it also had so many statements that made sense years later. the pace was slow compared to the modern day fast edit we are used to. I never fully understood the film although the cinematography was excellent and it was very original. Recently I made some Clappers and memorabilia for a event in Boston for Douglas Trumbull who did the special effects and also did Star wars and the I remember Brainstorm with Natalie wood that used a process where the film was sped up to create like a Imax effect or HD on Film, I think 2001 was one of the First to cover many sci fi milestones in technical achievements by Doug Trumbull Original Message From: filmfantast...@msn.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 15:59:28 + I have talked with many collectors who don't like 2001 and descriptions such as boring, monotonous, and a waste of time have been uttered. For me, personally, I think it is a masterpiece, but I also saw it in it's original release and I do read science fiction. I think many people seeing it for the first time in more recent years, who have been lulled into believing a sci-fi movie is all about fast paced editing and over the top special effects to bombard you with stimuli, might find 2001 boring. So, to each his own. I do have to disagree with you Dave on Spartacus. I think it is one of the best historical period pieces ever made and an incredible love story. A couple of years ago AFI screened it here in L.A. and Kirk Douglas introduced the movie. It was even more incredible on the big screen at Cinerama. Sue www.hollywoodposterframes.com Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 10:46:38 -0500 From: hah...@sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I love everything Kubrick did from The Killing right up to and including 2001 (though Spartacus, because it is a conventional 50s spear-and-sandal flick, is a little weak). But after 2001, with every succeeding movie, some of the magic seemed to fade. Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I thought 2001 was one of the more uneven movies I have ever seen, with some great sequences and some ultra-tedious ones. I felt similarly about Full Metal Jacket and Barry Lyndon. But I was completely left in the dark by Eyes Wide Shut. Give me the Kubrick that made The Killing, Paths of Glory, Lolita, and Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb I consider them all absolute masterpieces. Sometimes achieving great success allows a director too much control over their movies, and that can be a bad thing. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 6:18 AM, Phil Edwards p...@cinemarts.com wrote: Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: Ari Richards To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film. Ari From: bqjansen w...@bqjansen.demon.nl To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sat, 5 March, 2011 9:17:17 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Let me chip in to say that 2001 not only is a snorefest and that you either have to be very lazy to not stand up and leave the cinema/room or too old and creaky
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first time I saw 2001, I was at the NY Comicon 1973. My buddy Greg O'Malley who I haven't seen in 20+ years had gone to the show - without rooms - and stayed all weekend without leaving the hotel except for food (we probably only went across the street from the Statler Hilton, across from Madison Square Garden). One night we slept in the stairwell, one night on the floor of a friend's room and we probably didn't even sleep the other night. anyway, 2001 was being shown at midnight on Friday or Saturday, so we smoked a few spliffs, dropped some lysergic compounds and watched the film with a guy who had come out from San Fran. This guy was the first real weirdo I had ever met (outside of NY weirdos). He was talking about bi-sexual fun, drugs and the like, and he had 4 color hair - red, green, white and blue. I'd never seen anything like that previously, now you see it on every street corner. well, we had lots of fun, even if the film was totally confusing to us 16 year olds. During the light sequence, we were both wide-eyed and had our heads tilted back as if we were on a roller coaster. My pony tail was probably sticking out horizontally behind me too. I watched the film again maybe 6-8 years later and thought it was better than the first time.. again in a few more years and it got better again. Kubrick was brilliant. As Grey said, the film is fantastic for when it was made. We were at the tail end of Moon exploration which was a big moment in life for those of us who alive then. My generation knows what a big moment it was when we landed on the Moon. Now of course, space exploration is commonplace and the film still is relevant in that arena. 2001 was like a first person experience of what space exploration had hoped to be by now. Sadly, politics and the imbalance between rich poor as well as a real lack of interest in what's out there have decimated our approach to space exploration. none the less, don't get on my buddy about his lack of understanding of the film, if you figure out who my buddy is (it's Sean) and you shouldn't send him flaming email.. My buddy (his name is Sean) I guess just isn't intellectual enough to enjoy the movie. :- ) At 08:09 AM 3/5/2011, peter contarino wrote: I saw this film when it was first released. My friend and I were 8 years old and my mother dropped us off at the Warner Theater in Lynchburg where I grew up. I remember waiting for her after the movie and my friend and I saying, âwhat on earth did we just see?â Â I saw it again in college and loved it. All this discussion has made me want to see it again and see what I think it this point in time. -Peter From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:44 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I agree, Phil, and with much of what is said here concerning one of my favorite films. I think Kubrick said something like, âYou are welcome to speculate â Yes, Bruce, it is uneven. But when Kus says âI think it is brilliant for its time,â that really is the essence of this film in my opinion. How many great works of art have to be looked at with that eye? Is it boring compared to the comic book Space epics of the late 70s on? Maybe. But remember that the script was co-authored by one of the greatest sci-fi writers Arthur C. Clarke and in an effort to make the film more accessible he published the book after-the-fact. I have the blessing of remembering my first viewing in the early 70s, its first official rerelease and I had read the book prior to. I was awe-struck and amazed!!! I just loved the experience and live in that moment whenever I seen the film since. Yes, I am a guy and perhaps that predisposes me. But isnât that memory of first experience often what colors our love of anything thereafter, especially art. It is the moment of first viewing, awareness, etc My opinion; true, true classic and great film by one of the greatest directors! From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Edwards Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 6:18 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest Yes, but you READ SF. Over the years it has struck me that most people who dislike this film do so because they don't get it. There's actually nothing to get but plenty to read into it, just like SF literature, if one has a mind to. - Original Message - From: mailto:ariricha...@yahoo.com.auAri Richards To: mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUMoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I have a good friend, whose taste I usually agree with, and he also HATES 2001. Actually its a shame more people don't hate it, cos then I could afford a nice poser for this WONDERFUL film
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one of my tutors at film school was richard jenkins, the 2nd AD on 2001, who has some great kubrick anecdotes, including stanley spying on the crew to make sure that their cigarette breaks weren't going over time. my view of the film is that - if you watch it under the correct conditions (not drugs, but on a decent screen without distractions) - it can be a powerful and almost spiritual experience. two quotes have attached themselves to the film, which i sometimes deploy to naysayers; Arthur C Clarke's, If anyone understands it on the first viewing, we've failed in our intention. (although i know Kubrick called Clarke on this) and the more playful (but very apropos), The tedium IS the message. Eyes Wide Shut, on the other hand, is truly abysmal. apparently kubrick said as much privately to lee ermey when he was in post. arguably, the stress of knowing he'd produced such a turkey contributed to his fatal heart attack. now, let me tell you about my first experience of watching Three Men And A Baby in 1987. you have to remember that, at this time, steve guttenberg was considered a mere comic turn, rather than the actor with extraordinary range and gravitas that we know today.. (more later when i have time). neil --- On Sat, 5/3/11, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com wrote: From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, 5 March, 2011, 20:01 first time I saw 2001, I was at the NY Comicon 1973. My buddy Greg O'Malley who I haven't seen in 20+ years had gone to the show - without rooms - and stayed all weekend without leaving the hotel except for food (we probably only went across the street from the Statler Hilton, across from Madison Square Garden). One night we slept in the stairwell, one night on the floor of a friend's room and we probably didn't even sleep the other night. anyway, 2001 was being shown at midnight on Friday or Saturday, so we smoked a few spliffs, dropped some lysergic compounds and watched the film with a guy who had come out from San Fran. This guy was the first real weirdo I had ever met (outside of NY weirdos). He was talking about bi-sexual fun, drugs and the like, and he had 4 color hair - red, green, white and blue. I'd never seen anything like that previously, now you see it on every street corner. well, we had lots of fun, even if the film was totally confusing to us 16 year olds. During the light sequence, we were both wide-eyed and had our heads tilted back as if we were on a roller coaster. My pony tail was probably sticking out horizontally behind me too. I watched the film again maybe 6-8 years later and thought it was better than the first time.. again in a few more years and it got better again. Kubrick was brilliant. As Grey said, the film is fantastic for when it was made. We were at the tail end of Moon exploration which was a big moment in life for those of us who alive then. My generation knows what a big moment it was when we landed on the Moon. Now of course, space exploration is commonplace and the film still is relevant in that arena. 2001 was like a first person experience of what space exploration had hoped to be by now. Sadly, politics and the imbalance between rich poor as well as a real lack of interest in what's out there have decimated our approach to space exploration. none the less, don't get on my buddy about his lack of understanding of the film, if you figure out who my buddy is (it's Sean) and you shouldn't send him flaming email.. My buddy (his name is Sean) I guess just isn't intellectual enough to enjoy the movie. :- ) At 08:09 AM 3/5/2011, peter contarino wrote: I saw this film when it was first released. My friend and I were 8 years old and my mother dropped us off at the Warner Theater in Lynchburg where I grew up. I remember waiting for her after the movie and my friend and I saying, “what on earth did we just see?â€�  I saw it again in college and loved it. All this discussion has made me want to see it again and see what I think it this point in time. -Peter From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Smith, Grey - 1367 Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 9:44 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest I agree, Phil, and with much of what is said here concerning one of my favorite films. I think Kubrick said something like, “You are welcome to speculate…â€� Yes, Bruce, it is uneven. But when Kus says “I think it is brilliant for its time,â€� that really is the essence of this film in my opinion. How many great works of art have to be looked at with that eye? Is it boring compared to the comic book Space epics of the late 70s on? Maybe. But remember that the script was co-authored by one of the greatest sci-fi writers Arthur C. Clarke and in an effort to make the film more accessible he
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There were two factors that completely ruined Eyes Wide Shut for me: 1) I thought Cruise and Kidman had the least chemistry of any couple I have ever seen (and at the time, I was amazed that they were married to each other) 2) Were we supposed to seriously think that mega-rich men would wear weird masked robes and listen to Gregorian chants just so they could have sex with beautiful women? I wouldn't go through that rigmarole to be with Cleopatra herself. I may be too much of a literalist for that movie. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: one of my tutors at film school was richard jenkins, the 2nd AD on 2001, who has some great kubrick anecdotes, including stanley spying on the crew to make sure that their cigarette breaks weren't going over time. my view of the film is that - if you watch it under the correct conditions (not drugs, but on a decent screen without distractions) - it can be a powerful and almost spiritual experience. two quotes have attached themselves to the film, which i sometimes deploy to naysayers; Arthur C Clarke's, If anyone understands it on the first viewing, we've failed in our intention. (although i know Kubrick called Clarke on this) and the more playful (but very apropos), The tedium IS the message. Eyes Wide Shut, on the other hand, is truly abysmal. apparently kubrick said as much privately to lee ermey when he was in post. arguably, the stress of knowing he'd produced such a turkey contributed to his fatal heart attack. now, let me tell you about my first experience of watching Three Men And A Baby in 1987. you have to remember that, at this time, steve guttenberg was considered a mere comic turn, rather than the actor with extraordinary range and gravitas that we know today.. *(more later when i have time).* * * neil --- On *Sat, 5/3/11, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com*wrote: From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, 5 March, 2011, 20:01 first time I saw 2001, I was at the NY Comicon 1973. My buddy Greg O'Malley who I haven't seen in 20+ years had gone to the show - without rooms - and stayed all weekend without leaving the hotel except for food (we probably only went across the street from the Statler Hilton, across from Madison Square Garden). One night we slept in the stairwell, one night on the floor of a friend's room and we probably didn't even sleep the other night. anyway, 2001 was being shown at midnight on Friday or Saturday, so we smoked a few spliffs, dropped some lysergic compounds and watched the film with a guy who had come out from San Fran. This guy was the first real weirdo I had ever met (outside of NY weirdos). He was talking about bi-sexual fun, drugs and the like, and he had 4 color hair - red, green, white and blue. I'd never seen anything like that previously, now you see it on every street corner. well, we had lots of fun, even if the film was totally confusing to us 16 year olds. During the light sequence, we were both wide-eyed and had our heads tilted back as if we were on a roller coaster. My pony tail was probably sticking out horizontally behind me too. I watched the film again maybe 6-8 years later and thought it was better than the first time.. again in a few more years and it got better again. Kubrick was brilliant. As Grey said, the film is fantastic for when it was made. We were at the tail end of Moon exploration which was a big moment in life for those of us who alive then. My generation knows what a big moment it was when we landed on the Moon. Now of course, space exploration is commonplace and the film still is relevant in that arena. 2001 was like a first person experience of what space exploration had hoped to be by now. Sadly, politics and the imbalance between rich poor as well as a real lack of interest in what's out there have decimated our approach to space exploration. none the less, don't get on my buddy about his lack of understanding of the film, if you figure out who my buddy is (it's Sean) and you shouldn't send him flaming email.. My buddy (his name is Sean) I guess just isn't intellectual enough to enjoy the movie. :- ) At 08:09 AM 3/5/2011, peter contarino wrote: I saw this film when it was first released. My friend and I were 8 years old and my mother dropped us off at the Warner Theater in Lynchburg where I grew up. I remember waiting for her after the movie and my friend and I saying, “what on earth did we just see?�  I saw it again in college and loved it. All this discussion has made me want to see it again and see what I think it this point in time. -Peter *From:* MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUhttp://mc/compose?to=mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Smith, Grey - 1367 *Sent:* Saturday, March 05, 2011 9
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absolutely!the savvy critic david thomson (and otherwise huge kubrick fan) summed up the film's crucial failing very well here: http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/07.22.99/talk-pix-9929.html I think that lots of people, critics and the general public, will make fun of this film, predicts Thomson 90 minutes later as we sit down to a late lunch. For all its packaging as a serious exploration of sexual obsession, Eyes Wide Shut has got a kind of built-in foolishness to it.That orgy scene, he laughs, was, I think, the orgy of a man who's never been to an orgy. --- On Sat, 5/3/11, Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, 5 March, 2011, 22:55 There were two factors that completely ruined Eyes Wide Shut for me: 1) I thought Cruise and Kidman had the least chemistry of any couple I have ever seen (and at the time, I was amazed that they were married to each other) 2) Were we supposed to seriously think that mega-rich men would wear weird masked robes and listen to Gregorian chants just so they could have sex with beautiful women? I wouldn't go through that rigmarole to be with Cleopatra herself. I may be too much of a literalist for that movie. Bruce On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: one of my tutors at film school was richard jenkins, the 2nd AD on 2001, who has some great kubrick anecdotes, including stanley spying on the crew to make sure that their cigarette breaks weren't going over time. my view of the film is that - if you watch it under the correct conditions (not drugs, but on a decent screen without distractions) - it can be a powerful and almost spiritual experience. two quotes have attached themselves to the film, which i sometimes deploy to naysayers; Arthur C Clarke's, If anyone understands it on the first viewing, we've failed in our intention. (although i know Kubrick called Clarke on this) and the more playful (but very apropos), The tedium IS the message. Eyes Wide Shut, on the other hand, is truly abysmal. apparently kubrick said as much privately to lee ermey when he was in post. arguably, the stress of knowing he'd produced such a turkey contributed to his fatal heart attack. now, let me tell you about my first experience of watching Three Men And A Baby in 1987. you have to remember that, at this time, steve guttenberg was considered a mere comic turn, rather than the actor with extraordinary range and gravitas that we know today.. (more later when i have time). neil --- On Sat, 5/3/11, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com wrote: From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Friend Say 2001 is a snorefest To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Date: Saturday, 5 March, 2011, 20:01 first time I saw 2001, I was at the NY Comicon 1973. My buddy Greg O'Malley who I haven't seen in 20+ years had gone to the show - without rooms - and stayed all weekend without leaving the hotel except for food (we probably only went across the street from the Statler Hilton, across from Madison Square Garden). One night we slept in the stairwell, one night on the floor of a friend's room and we probably didn't even sleep the other night. anyway, 2001 was being shown at midnight on Friday or Saturday, so we smoked a few spliffs, dropped some lysergic compounds and watched the film with a guy who had come out from San Fran. This guy was the first real weirdo I had ever met (outside of NY weirdos). He was talking about bi-sexual fun, drugs and the like, and he had 4 color hair - red, green, white and blue. I'd never seen anything like that previously, now you see it on every street corner. well, we had lots of fun, even if the film was totally confusing to us 16 year olds. During the light sequence, we were both wide-eyed and had our heads tilted back as if we were on a roller coaster. My pony tail was probably sticking out horizontally behind me too. I watched the film again maybe 6-8 years later and thought it was better than the first time.. again in a few more years and it got better again. Kubrick was brilliant. As Grey said, the film is fantastic for when it was made. We were at the tail end of Moon exploration which was a big moment in life for those of us who alive then. My generation knows what a big moment it was when we landed on the Moon. Now of course, space exploration is commonplace and the film still is relevant in that arena. 2001 was like a first person experience of what space exploration had hoped to be by now. Sadly, politics and the imbalance between rich poor as well as a real lack of interest in what's out there have decimated our approach to space exploration. none the less, don't get on my buddy about his lack of understanding of the film, if you figure out who my buddy is (it's Sean) and you
