Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi

[Geraldine Kudaka]

Rudy, this list is not just for dealers.

There are a lot of people who lurk here who are interested in movie posters. 
They are not professional dealers in the business. Some may be non-poster 
business people interested in selling off collections acquired from either a 
lifetime of working in the industry, or inherited them from dad, who passed on.


This is also a public list which non-subscribers go to for archived information 
on how to sell their posters..

As a noted movie poster expert, these uninformed sellers need to know that you 
will encourage them to send their collections "post vite" to Heritage. 


You will not tell them that they need to protect themselves by doing a 
photographic inventory and log of their posters before sending to Heritage. 


You will not warn them that Heritage's inventory process is suspect and their 
software probably some home-user Access-like database program. (Here, I'm 
referring to security differences between programs like Quicken and true 
business accounting software which do not allow you to change entries without 
leaving a trail.)

You will not tell them that heritage will not return posters they do not sell.

 
You will simply funnel them to Heritage  -- for your commission.  


For this reason - among others - an esteemed seller on this list posted a wish 
that you were dead... 


Need I remind you I defended you? This was before I sat down and went though 
our Heritage file and discovered what was really going on. This was before I 
went online and found that Heritage has been accused by others for stealing 
items submitted for consignment.


Last -- if you think you have spent "a huge amount of time" on this issue, get 
real. Suggesting we comply with Heritage's offer of selling without commission 
fees is certainly not an email that takes a lot of time to write. After Grey 
threatened us with legal action, wehave spent far more money on attorney's fees 
than you have... That's a hard financial cost on top of the value of posters 
sent to Heritage.

While I appreciate your suggestion we go bankrupt "sueing everybody involved", 
I will decline your advice.


In the start, I said this list is not just for dealers. My emails are for the 
lurking public, now and in the future. 

   




 From: rudy franchi 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 10:41 AM
Subject: [MOPO] Reply To Geraldine
 
It seems that I can't post to MOPO without Geraldine popping out like
a cuckoo bird on a spring. This has gone beyond rational discussion.
I've spent a huge amount of time on this problem and Grey has
spent the equivalent of days in hour after hour of trying to reach a
satisfactory conclusion.  Perhaps Geraldine should just sue everyone
involved. After she loses, she can appeal it all the way to the
Supreme Court where it will go down in judicial history as "When I've Got A
Hammer  vs. Everything's A Nail."  Meanwhile, I will continue to
occasionally post here and just put up with the tirades. On some of
the stock market discussion boards I visit, one can put a particularly
annoying person on "ignore" so that their posts won't show up in your
message box. Would that we could do that here.

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Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi

[Sean Linkenback]

So to get the timeline correct:


1. Rudy suckers you into sending posters to Heritage
2. Heritage gets the posters, send you an inventory list and you think stuff is 
missing
3. Heritage sells posters that aren't on the inventory list, sends you a check 
for $11K for at least one of them, and then doesn't sell other items that are 
on the list.
4. You are so mad about the missing items you decide to pack up another box of 
posters to send to Heritage without telling them and without making an inventory
5. Several months later you are mad because they didn't tell you about the 
package you never told them was coming.
6. You argue about #2 and #5 for a while
7. Heritage says they sent you back everything they have.
8. You say they didn't.







-Original Message-
From: Geraldine Kudaka [mailto:gkud...@rocketmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 09:15 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi

Rudy, this list is not just for dealers.


There are a lot of people who lurk here who are interested in movie posters. 
They are not professional dealers in the business. Some may be non-poster 
business people interested in selling off collections acquired from either a 
lifetime of working in the industry, or inherited them from dad, who passed on.



This is also a public list which non-subscribers go to for archived information 
on how to sell their posters..


As a noted movie poster expert, these uninformed sellers need to know that you 
will encourage them to send their collections "post vite" to Heritage.



You will not tell them that they need to protect themselves by doing a 
photographic inventory and log of their posters before sending to Heritage.



You will not warn them that Heritage's inventory process is suspect and their 
software probably some home-user Access-like database program. (Here, I'm 
referring to security differences between programs like Quicken and true 
business accounting software which do not allow you to change entries without 
leaving a trail.)


You will not tell them that heritage will not return posters they do not sell.


You will simply funnel them to Heritage -- for your commission.



For this reason - among others - an esteemed seller on this list posted a wish 
that you were dead...



Need I remind you I defended you? This was before I sat down and went though 
our Heritage file and discovered what was really going on. This was before I 
went online and found that Heritage has been accused by others for stealing 
items submitted for consignment.



Last -- if you think you have spent "a huge amount of time" on this issue, get 
real. Suggesting we comply with Heritage's offer of selling without commission 
fees is certainly not an email that takes a lot of time to write. After Grey 
threatened us with legal action, we have spent far more money on attorney's 
fees than you have... That's a hard financial cost on top of the value of 
posters sent to Heritage.


While I appreciate your suggestion we go bankrupt "sueing everybody involved", 
I will decline your advice.



In the start, I said this list is not just for dealers. My emails are for the 
lurking public, now and in the future.






From: rudy franchi 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 10:41 AM
Subject: [MOPO] Reply To Geraldine


It seems that I can't post to MOPO without Geraldine popping out like
a cuckoo bird on a spring. This has gone beyond rational discussion.
I've spent a huge amount of time on this problem and Grey has
spent the equivalent of days in hour after hour of trying to reach a
satisfactory conclusion. Perhaps Geraldine should just sue everyone
involved. After she loses, she can appeal it all the way to the
Supreme Court where it will go down in judicial history as "When I've Got A
Hammer vs. Everything's A Nail." Meanwhile, I will continue to
occasionally post here and just put up with the tirades. On some of
the stock market discussion boards I visit, one can put a particularly
annoying person on "ignore" so that their posts won't show up in your
message box. Would that we could do that here.

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Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi

[Geraldine Kudaka]

1. Rudy suckers you into sending posters to Heritage

Suckers? I wouldn't have used that word. He was eager to make some money off a 
commission. 


2. Heritage gets the posters, send you an inventory list and you think stuff is 
missing

Correction, Heritage lists only posters they are putting up for the next 
auction. We do not realize there is something wrong here. We ask Heritage about 
what is not on the list and are told Heritage has a secure inventory and 
tagging process.

3.
 Heritage sells posters that aren't on the inventory list, sends you a 
check for $11K for at least one of them, and then doesn't sell other 
items that are on the list.

Correction, Heritage then sells another poster -- which we didn't know was or 
wasn't on an inventory.

4. You are so mad about the 
missing items you decide to pack up another box of posters to send to 
Heritage without telling them and without making an inventory

Correction - We are happy with the sales and think Heritage earned their 
commission. We think they are doing a good job and after this 2nd check clears, 
decide to send them more product. 

We are not aware of missing posters because in our conversations with Heritage, 
we are asked whether we want to sell these in Heritage's weekly auction. As our 
Star Wars sales are very good on ebay, we decline. We are told our posters are 
safely held as they are tagged and inventoried.

5. Several months later you are mad because they didn't tell you about the 
package you never told them was coming.

Correction. After sending the 2nd batch, I call them to see when they are going 
to auction the new material we sent. Christ doesn't know what I am talking 
about promises to look into it. In our subsequent conversation, he states our 
posters have little value so they won't list them in the signature auction. To 
which, I ask, what about the Get Carter and Lennon poster knowing full well 
these two sold in the Feb. 2010 auction.


6. You argue about #2 and #5 for a while7. Heritage says they sent you back 
everything they have.
8. You say they didn't.

Correction, see the following revised 6,7, 8 & 9. 

6. We argue, I complain, Grey threatens me with a law suit for slander and 
libel.

7. It takes a couple of months to hire the right lawyer to protect us from 
slander and libel. I then air my grievances publicly.

8.  Heritage offers to sell our future consignments without a commission, which 
we decline. Heritage then offers to donate the value of the Get Carter & Lennon 
to charity, which we also decline. 

9. Grey then sends back the inventory of ours he has -- and yes, that is when I 
get really mad. Upon opening the packages and seeing what was in it, I was 
furious. Of course, I immediately knew something was amiss because the shipping 
tubes were not the ones we had bought from Uline and shipped off our posters to 
Heritage in. In other words, our posters were unpacked and repacked.

It was then I sat down and went through the Heritage file with a fine tooth 
comb. 

Am I raving mad right now? 

No, I'd say the work it takes to challenge a well-loved dealer whom most of you 
do business with regularly takes the uumph out of any anger. 

If anything, I am calmly rational now, knowing that we learned a good lesson 
which others can learn from also.






 From: Sean Linkenback 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi
 

So to get the timeline correct:




 
-Original Message-
From: Geraldine Kudaka [mailto:gkud...@rocketmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 09:15 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi


Rudy, this list is not just for dealers.

There are a lot of people who lurk here who are interested in movie posters. 
They are not professional dealers in the business. Some may be non-poster 
business people interested in selling off collections acquired from either a 
lifetime of working in the industry, or inherited them from dad, who passed on.


This is also a public list which non-subscribers go to for archived information 
on how to sell their posters..

As a noted movie poster expert, these uninformed sellers need to know that you 
will encourage them to send their collections "post vite" to Heritage. 


You will not tell them that they need to protect themselves by doing a 
photographic inventory and log of their posters before sending to Heritage. 


You will not warn them that Heritage's inventory process is suspect and their 
software probably some home-user Access-like database program. (Here, I'm 
referring to security differences between programs like Quicken and true 
business accounting software which do not allow you to change entries without 
leaving a trail.)

You will not tell them that heritage will not return posters they do not sell.

 
You will simply funnel them to

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi

[Richard Halegua Comic Art]

At 05:53 PM 6/4/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:

If anything, I am calmly rational now



I think I could argue this point Geraldine


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Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi

[Bruce Hershenson]

Here is what most confuses me:

"Heritage then offers to donate the value of the Get Carter & Lennon to
charity, which we also decline"

Did they auction those two posters at all AFTER they received the ones you
claimed to have sent them? If so, do they now deny those were yours, and
where do they say they got them from? If they have NOT auctioned either of
those, then it must be that they still have them. Why would they not return
them even now if they have them (they could claim they were "misplaced"?

It also confuses me that they would offer to give money to charity if they
did nothing wrong.

Bruce

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:

>
> 1. Rudy suckers you into sending posters to Heritage
>
> Suckers? I wouldn't have used that word. He was eager to make some money
> off a commission.
>
> 2. Heritage gets the posters, send you an inventory list and you think
> stuff is missing
>
> Correction, Heritage lists only posters they are putting up for the next
> auction. We do not realize there is something wrong here. We ask Heritage
> about what is not on the list and are told Heritage has a secure inventory
> and tagging process.
>
>
> 3. Heritage sells posters that aren't on the inventory list, sends you a
> check for $11K for at least one of them, and then doesn't sell other items
> that are on the list.
>
> Correction, Heritage then sells another poster -- which we didn't know was
> or wasn't on an inventory.
>
>
> 4. You are so mad about the missing items you decide to pack up another
> box of posters to send to Heritage without telling them and without making
> an inventory
>
> Correction - We are happy with the sales and think Heritage earned their
> commission. We think they are doing a good job and after this 2nd check
> clears, decide to send them more product.
>
> We are not aware of missing posters because in our conversations with
> Heritage, we are asked whether we want to sell these in Heritage's weekly
> auction. As our Star Wars sales are very good on ebay, we decline. We are
> told our posters are safely held as they are tagged and inventoried.
>
>
> 5. Several months later you are mad because they didn't tell you about the
> package you never told them was coming.
>
> Correction. After sending the 2nd batch, I call them to see when they are
> going to auction the new material we sent. Christ doesn't know what I am
> talking about promises to look into it. In our subsequent conversation, he
> states our posters have little value so they won't list them in the
> signature auction. To which, I ask, what about the Get Carter and Lennon
> poster knowing full well these two sold in the Feb. 2010 auction.
>
> 6. You argue about #2 and #5 for a while
> 7. Heritage says they sent you back everything they have.
> 8. You say they didn't.
>
> Correction, see the following revised 6,7, 8 & 9.
>
> 6. We argue, I complain, Grey threatens me with a law suit for slander and
> libel.
>
> 7. It takes a couple of months to hire the right lawyer to protect us from
> slander and libel. I then air my grievances publicly.
>
> 8.  Heritage offers to sell our future consignments without a commission,
> which we decline. Heritage then offers to donate the value of the Get
> Carter & Lennon to charity, which we also decline.
>
> 9. Grey then sends back the inventory of ours he has -- and yes, that is
> when I get really mad. Upon opening the packages and seeing what was in it,
> I was furious. Of course, I immediately knew something was amiss because
> the shipping tubes were not the ones we had bought from Uline and shipped
> off our posters to Heritage in. In other words, our posters were unpacked
> and repacked.
>
> It was then I sat down and went through the Heritage file with a fine
> tooth comb.
>
> Am I raving mad right now?
>
> No, I'd say the work it takes to challenge a well-loved dealer whom most
> of you do business with regularly takes the uumph out of any anger.
>
> If anything, I am calmly rational now, knowing that we learned a good
> lesson which others can learn from also.
>
>
>
>   --
> *From:* Sean Linkenback 
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> *Sent:* Monday, June 4, 2012 7:51 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi
>
> So to get the timeline correct:
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> *From:* Geraldine Kudaka [mailto:gkud...@rocketmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, June 4, 2012 09:15 AM
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi
>
> Rudy, this list is not just for dealers.
>
> There are a lot of people who lurk he

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi

[Geraldine Kudaka]

Whoops -- addendum to item 4...

We not only send 30-40 posters to heritage, we send the same uninventoried 
number to Bruce.


Addendum to number 5

We start getting emails from Bruce regarding out inventory selling & payments 
deposited into our account.




 From: Geraldine Kudaka 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi
 



1. Rudy suckers you into sending posters to Heritage

Suckers? I wouldn't have used that word. He was eager to make some money off a 
commission. 


2. Heritage gets the posters, send you an inventory list and you think stuff is 
missing

Correction, Heritage lists only posters they are putting up for the next 
auction. We do not realize there is something wrong here. We ask Heritage about 
what is not on the list and are told Heritage has a secure inventory and 
tagging process.

3.
 Heritage sells posters that aren't on the inventory list, sends you a 
check for $11K for at least one of them, and then doesn't sell other 
items that are on the list.

Correction, Heritage then sells another poster -- which we didn't know was or 
wasn't on an inventory.

4. You are so mad about the 
missing items you decide to pack up another box of posters to send to 
Heritage without telling them and without making an inventory

Correction - We are happy with the sales and think Heritage earned their 
commission. We think they are doing a good job and after this 2nd check clears, 
decide to send them more product. 

We are not aware of missing posters because in our conversations with Heritage, 
we are asked whether we want to sell these in Heritage's weekly auction. As our 
Star Wars sales are very good on ebay, we decline. We are told our posters are 
safely held as they are tagged and inventoried.

5. Several months later you are mad because they didn't tell you about the 
package you never told them was coming.

Correction. After sending the 2nd batch, I call them to see when they are going 
to auction the new material we sent. Christ doesn't know what I am talking 
about promises to look into it. In our subsequent conversation, he states our 
posters have little value so they won't list
 them in the signature auction. To which, I ask, what about the Get Carter and 
Lennon poster knowing full well these two sold in the Feb. 2010 auction.


6. You argue about #2 and #5 for a while7. Heritage says they sent you back 
everything they have. 
8. You say they didn't.

Correction, see the following revised 6,7, 8 & 9. 

6. We argue, I complain, Grey threatens me with a law suit for slander and 
libel.

7. It takes a couple of months to hire the right lawyer to protect us from 
slander and libel. I then air my grievances publicly.

8.  Heritage offers to sell our future consignments without a commission, which 
we decline. Heritage then offers to donate the value of the Get Carter & Lennon 
to charity, which we also decline. 

9. Grey then sends back the inventory of ours he has -- and yes, that is when I 
get really mad. Upon opening the packages and seeing what was in it, I was 
furious. Of course, I immediately knew something was amiss because the shipping 
tubes were not the ones we had bought from Uline and shipped off our posters to 
Heritage in. In other words, our posters were unpacked and repacked.

It was then I sat down and went through the Heritage file with a fine
 tooth comb. 

Am I raving mad right now? 

No, I'd say the work it takes to challenge a well-loved dealer whom most of you 
do business with regularly takes the uumph out of any anger. 

If anything, I am calmly rational now, knowing that we learned a good lesson 
which others can learn from also.






 From: Sean Linkenback 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi
 

So to get the timeline correct:




 
-Original Message-
From: Geraldine Kudaka [mailto:gkud...@rocketmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 09:15 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi


Rudy, this list is not just for dealers.

There are a lot of people who lurk here who are interested in movie posters. 
They are not professional dealers in the business. Some may be non-poster 
business people interested in selling off collections acquired from either a 
lifetime of working in the industry, or inherited them from dad, who passed on.


This is also a public list which non-subscribers go to for archived information 
on how to sell their posters..

As a noted movie poster expert, these uninformed sellers need to know that you 
will encourage them to send their collections "post vite" to Heritage. 


You will not tell them that they need to protect themselves by doing a 
photographic inventory and log of their posters before sending to Heritage. 


You will not warn t

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi

[Sean Linkenback]

Maybe you sent the Get Carter and Lennon to Bruce...

You don't find it strange that Heritage would send you a check for $11,000 for 
a poster that wasn't on your inventory list and then claim that they didn't get 
two items that are worth 1/10 of that amount?
(which you didn't inventory and truthfully have no idea if you sent it to them 
or not)
That's usually the opposite way things work.



-Original Message-
From: Geraldine Kudaka [mailto:gkud...@rocketmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 09:21 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi

Whoops -- addendum to item 4...


We not only send 30-40 posters to heritage, we send the same uninventoried 
number to Bruce.



Addendum to number 5


We start getting emails from Bruce regarding out inventory selling & payments 
deposited into our account.





From: Geraldine Kudaka 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi




1. Rudy suckers you into sending posters to Heritage

Suckers? I wouldn't have used that word. He was eager to make some money off a 
commission.


2. Heritage gets the posters, send you an inventory list and you think stuff is 
missing

Correction, Heritage lists only posters they are putting up for the next 
auction. We do not realize there is something wrong here. We ask Heritage about 
what is not on the list and are told Heritage has a secure inventory and 
tagging process.

3. Heritage sells posters that aren't on the inventory list, sends you a check 
for $11K for at least one of them, and then doesn't sell other items that are 
on the list.

Correction, Heritage then sells another poster -- which we didn't know was or 
wasn't on an inventory.

4. You are so mad about the missing items you decide to pack up another box of 
posters to send to Heritage without telling them and without making an inventory

Correction - We are happy with the sales and think Heritage earned their 
commission. We think they are doing a good job and after this 2nd check clears, 
decide to send them more product.

We are not aware of missing posters because in our conversations with Heritage, 
we are asked whether we want to sell these in Heritage's weekly auction. As our 
Star Wars sales are very good on ebay, we decline. We are told our posters are 
safely held as they are tagged and inventoried.

5. Several months later you are mad because they didn't tell you about the 
package you never told them was coming.

Correction. After sending the 2nd batch, I call them to see when they are going 
to auction the new material we sent. Christ doesn't know what I am talking 
about promises to look into it. In our subsequent conversation, he states our 
posters have little value so they won't list them in the signature auction. To 
which, I ask, what about the Get Carter and Lennon poster knowing full well 
these two sold in the Feb. 2010 auction.


6. You argue about #2 and #5 for a while
7. Heritage says they sent you back everything they have.8. You say they didn't.

Correction, see the following revised 6,7, 8 & 9.

6. We argue, I complain, Grey threatens me with a law suit for slander and 
libel.

7. It takes a couple of months to hire the right lawyer to protect us from 
slander and libel. I then air my grievances publicly.

8. Heritage offers to sell our future consignments without a commission, which 
we decline. Heritage then offers to donate the value of the Get Carter & Lennon 
to charity, which we also decline.

9. Grey then sends back the inventory of ours he has -- and yes, that is when I 
get really mad. Upon opening the packages and seeing what was in it, I was 
furious. Of course, I immediately knew something was amiss because the shipping 
tubes were not the ones we had bought from Uline and shipped off our posters to 
Heritage in. In other words, our posters were unpacked and repacked.

It was then I sat down and went through the Heritage file with a fine tooth 
comb.

Am I raving mad right now?

No, I'd say the work it takes to challenge a well-loved dealer whom most of you 
do business with regularly takes the uumph out of any anger.

If anything, I am calmly rational now, knowing that we learned a good lesson 
which others can learn from also.






From: Sean Linkenback 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi


So to get the timeline correct:








-Original Message-
From: Geraldine Kudaka [mailto:gkud...@rocketmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 09:15 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi

Rudy, this list is not just for dealers.


There are a lot of people who lurk here who are interested in movie posters. 
They are not professiona

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art]

Geraldine

reading your posts as a outsider makes me wonder about some of the 
things you mention in your emails.
Are you trying to get a resolution, or are you just trying to 
disparage Rudy Franchi and Heritage?
Also, do you or do you not think that your own actions are a partial 
contributor to your angst??


Don't get me wrong.. I'm not attempting to disparage or attack you. I 
understand you have a dispute, it was not to date settled in your 
favor and that makes you angry.


But some thing that you wrote puzzles me. Your own lack of an 
inventory specifically.


2 weeks ago, I consigned a large collection of my own to Profiles in 
History for their July auction. I have a book collection or hardcover 
Photoplay editions in dust jackets dating from 1913 to the 1940s with 
additional items up to the 1990s.


I have known Joe Maddalena for a reasonably long time and we have 
done deals on both a personal level and via his auction house. 
However, regardless of my relationship with Joe, when I consigned 
this collection to them of 800 books and related items, there is no 
way I would have let these items leave my possession without an inventory.


For 2 weeks prior to them leaving my warehouse, I photographed each 
and every item in this collection. Yes it was done in part so I could 
have file images of these items for my image archive, but it was also 
done so that in case of any disputes, I could prove to Profiles what 
I gave them. This is not for the protection of myself and for the 
protection of Profiles. How could I dispute any issues without having 
such an inventory in my hands??


Did I do this time consuming job for my own pleasure??
No Ma'am
I had plenty of other work to do, and such a task only added to my 
weekly work schedule right at a time when I was actually busier than 
I had been in months, and anyone who knows me knows that my work 
schedule is always completely full and that I haven't been having 
lots of playtime in my wonderful city of Las Vegas. It actually left 
me with just one day to get ready for Cinevent, and that one day 
wasn't nearly enough.


Joe may be my good friend and I trust him 100%, but I do not leave it 
up to other people to protect my own interests, as much as I would 
like to when I don't have any time. If I leave it up to someone else 
to protect my interests, I really don't feel I can blame the other 
party no matter how many assurances I have that I can. Furthermore, 
if such a situation were to land me in a lawsuit attempting to claim 
some sort of duress, what portion of such duress is my own fault for 
not protecting myself??


I do remember the days when a handshake deal was a bond, but I have 
also felt the betrayal of a handshake deal not being honored, making 
me wish I had done what was necessary to protect myself before any 
issues arose. Not completing such an action is no one's fault but my own.


So the question becomes, "IF" your claims are true, what 
responsibility do you think you have in not having done what was 
necessary to protect yourself? Do you think this was a failure on 
your behalf, or do you think that you have any responsibility at all?


If you were to sue Heritage, what proof would you use to prove your 
case? Admittedly, you made no inventory, Charlie is 82 and you are 
also at an age where things become less clear to the mind - through 
no fault of your own.. It just happens as people get older. It will 
happen to me as well probably.


I have thought at times that something is missing and believed I had 
given it to someone, only to later find said item in my inventory, 
generally somewhere that it doesn't belong, at which point I was 
forced to apologize to that person who I thought screwed me.


You did not do what was necessary to protect yourself, how can that 
be the fault of Heritage?


Rich


At 06:15 AM 6/4/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:

Rudy, this list is not just for dealers.

There are a lot of people who lurk here who are interested in movie 
posters. They are not professional dealers in the business. Some may 
be non-poster business people interested in selling off collections 
acquired from either a lifetime of working in the industry, or 
inherited them from dad, who passed on.


This is also a public list which non-subscribers go to for archived 
information on how to sell their posters..


As a noted movie poster expert, these uninformed sellers need to 
know that you will encourage them to send their collections "post 
vite" to Heritage.


You will not tell them that they need to protect themselves by doing 
a photographic inventory and log of their posters before sending to Heritage.


You will not warn them that Heritage's inventory process is suspect 
and their software probably some home-user Access-like database 
program. (Here, I'm referring to security differences between 
programs like Quicken and true business accounting software which do 
not allow you to change entries without leaving a trail.)

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Walton, Jeffrey]

I concur wholeheartedlyyou just can't ship a bunch of posters and claim 
foul when no inventory on your part was done no matter if you trust that 
identity or not.  When shipping a bunch of poster I always make an inventory 
and send along a copy of the inventory as well.  So when Grey or Bruce compares 
the list and there is a discrepancy there is at least a record.  What would 
have happened if the parcel was lost in the mail, then try to stake a claim 
with the insurance?

The X-files said it best - 'Trust no one."



From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard 
Halegua Posters + Comic Art
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:31 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

Geraldine

reading your posts as a outsider makes me wonder about some of the things you 
mention in your emails.
Are you trying to get a resolution, or are you just trying to disparage Rudy 
Franchi and Heritage?
Also, do you or do you not think that your own actions are a partial 
contributor to your angst??

Don't get me wrong.. I'm not attempting to disparage or attack you. I 
understand you have a dispute, it was not to date settled in your favor and 
that makes you angry.

But some thing that you wrote puzzles me. Your own lack of an inventory 
specifically.

2 weeks ago, I consigned a large collection of my own to Profiles in History 
for their July auction. I have a book collection or hardcover Photoplay 
editions in dust jackets dating from 1913 to the 1940s with additional items up 
to the 1990s.

I have known Joe Maddalena for a reasonably long time and we have done deals on 
both a personal level and via his auction house. However, regardless of my 
relationship with Joe, when I consigned this collection to them of 800 books 
and related items, there is no way I would have let these items leave my 
possession without an inventory.

For 2 weeks prior to them leaving my warehouse, I photographed each and every 
item in this collection. Yes it was done in part so I could have file images of 
these items for my image archive, but it was also done so that in case of any 
disputes, I could prove to Profiles what I gave them. This is not for the 
protection of myself and for the protection of Profiles. How could I dispute 
any issues without having such an inventory in my hands??

Did I do this time consuming job for my own pleasure??
No Ma'am
I had plenty of other work to do, and such a task only added to my weekly work 
schedule right at a time when I was actually busier than I had been in months, 
and anyone who knows me knows that my work schedule is always completely full 
and that I haven't been having lots of playtime in my wonderful city of Las 
Vegas. It actually left me with just one day to get ready for Cinevent, and 
that one day wasn't nearly enough.

Joe may be my good friend and I trust him 100%, but I do not leave it up to 
other people to protect my own interests, as much as I would like to when I 
don't have any time. If I leave it up to someone else to protect my interests, 
I really don't feel I can blame the other party no matter how many assurances I 
have that I can. Furthermore, if such a situation were to land me in a lawsuit 
attempting to claim some sort of duress, what portion of such duress is my own 
fault for not protecting myself??

I do remember the days when a handshake deal was a bond, but I have also felt 
the betrayal of a handshake deal not being honored, making me wish I had done 
what was necessary to protect myself before any issues arose. Not completing 
such an action is no one's fault but my own.

So the question becomes, "IF" your claims are true, what responsibility do you 
think you have in not having done what was necessary to protect yourself? Do 
you think this was a failure on your behalf, or do you think that you have any 
responsibility at all?

If you were to sue Heritage, what proof would you use to prove your case? 
Admittedly, you made no inventory, Charlie is 82 and you are also at an age 
where things become less clear to the mind - through no fault of your own.. It 
just happens as people get older. It will happen to me as well probably.

I have thought at times that something is missing and believed I had given it 
to someone, only to later find said item in my inventory, generally somewhere 
that it doesn't belong, at which point I was forced to apologize to that person 
who I thought screwed me.

You did not do what was necessary to protect yourself, how can that be the 
fault of Heritage?

Rich


At 06:15 AM 6/4/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:

Rudy, this list is not just for dealers.

There are a lot of people who lurk here who are interested in movie posters. 
They are not professional dealers in the business. Some may be non-poster 
business people interested in selling off collections acquired from either a 
lifetime

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Geraldine Kudaka]

Ahh... but here's the kicker I didn't add before

Heritge claims they have sent back all our posters.

On our consignment sheet from Feb 2010, there's unsold poster which wasn't 
returned this past month.

Black and white, on Heritage paper, it states it wasn't sold.

Now have you ever had Heritage claim they returned everything, yet you have 
PROOF not everything was returned.










 From: "Walton, Jeffrey" 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
 

 
I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t ship a bunch of posters and claim foul 
when no inventory on your part was done no matter if you trust that identity or 
not.  When shipping a bunch of poster I always make an inventory and send along 
a copy of the inventory as well.  So when Grey or Bruce compares the list and 
there is a discrepancy there is at least a record.  What would have happened if 
the parcel was lost in the mail, then try to stake a claim with the insurance?
 
The X-files said it best – ‘Trust no one.”
 
 
 
From:MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard 
Halegua Posters + Comic Art
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:31 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
 
Geraldine

reading your posts as a outsider makes me wonder about some of the things you 
mention in your emails.
Are you trying to get a resolution, or are you just trying to disparage Rudy 
Franchi and Heritage?
Also, do you or do you not think that your own actions are a partial 
contributor to your angst??

Don't get me wrong.. I'm not attempting to disparage or attack you. I 
understand you have a dispute, it was not to date settled in your favor and 
that makes you angry.

But some thing that you wrote puzzles me. Your own lack of an inventory 
specifically.

2 weeks ago, I consigned a large collection of my own to Profiles in History 
for their July auction. I have a book collection or hardcover Photoplay 
editions in dust jackets dating from 1913 to the 1940s with additional items up 
to the 1990s.

I have known Joe Maddalena for a reasonably long time and we have done deals on 
both a personal level and via his auction house. However, regardless of my 
relationship with Joe, when I consigned this collection to them of 800 books 
and related items, there
 is no way I would have let these items leave my possession without an 
inventory.

For 2 weeks prior to them leaving my warehouse, I photographed each and every 
item in this collection. Yes it was done in part so I could have file images of 
these items for my image archive, but it was also done so that in case of any 
disputes, I could prove
 to Profiles what I gave them. This is not for the protection of myself and for 
the protection of Profiles. How could I dispute any issues without having such 
an inventory in my hands??

Did I do this time consuming job for my own pleasure??
No Ma'am
I had plenty of other work to do, and such a task only added to my weekly work 
schedule right at a time when I was actually busier than I had been in months, 
and anyone who knows me knows that my work schedule is always completely full 
and that I haven't been
 having lots of playtime in my wonderful city of Las Vegas. It actually left me 
with just one day to get ready for Cinevent, and that one day wasn't nearly 
enough.

Joe may be my good friend and I trust him 100%, but I do not leave it up to 
other people to protect my own interests, as much as I would like to when I 
don't have any time. If I leave it up to someone else to protect my interests, 
I really don't feel I can
 blame the other party no matter how many assurances I have that I can. 
Furthermore, if such a situation were to land me in a lawsuit attempting to 
claim some sort of duress, what portion of such duress is my own fault for not 
protecting myself??

I do remember the days when a handshake deal was a bond, but I have also felt 
the betrayal of a handshake deal not being honored, making me wish I had done 
what was necessary to protect myself before any issues arose. Not completing 
such an action is no one's
 fault but my own.

So the question becomes, "IF" your claims are true, what responsibility do you 
think you have in not having done what was necessary to protect yourself? Do 
you think this was a failure on your behalf, or do you think that you have any 
responsibility at all?

If you were to sue Heritage, what proof would you use to prove your case? 
Admittedly, you made no inventory, Charlie is 82 and you are also at an age 
where things become less clear to the mind - through no fault of your own.. It 
just happens as people get older.
 It will happen to me as well probably.

I have thought at times that something is missing and believed I had given it 
to someon

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Richard Halegua Comic Art]

Geraldine

the United States did land man on the Moon in 1969

anything else is a silly conspiracy theory

Rich


At 04:16 PM 6/4/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:

Ahh... but here's the kicker I didn't add before

Heritge claims they have sent back all our posters.

On our consignment sheet from Feb 2010, there's 
unsold poster which wasn't returned this past month.


Black and white, on Heritage paper, it states it wasn't sold.

Now have you ever had Heritage claim they 
returned everything, yet you have PROOF not everything was returned.









From: "Walton, Jeffrey" 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t ship a 
bunch of posters and claim fooul when no 
inventory on your part was done no matter if you 
trust that identity or not.  When shipping a 
bunch of poster I always make an inventory and 
send along a copy of the inventory as well.  So 
when Grey or Bruce compares the list and there 
is a discrepancy there is at least a 
record.  What would have happened if the parcel 
was lost in the mail, then try to stake a claim with the insurance?


The X-files said it best –  ˜Trust no one.”



From: MoPo List 
[mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art

Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:31 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

Geraldine

reading your posts as a outsider makes me wonder 
about some of the things you mention in your emails.
Are you trying to get a resolution, or are you 
just trying to disparage Rudy Franchi and Heritage?
Also, do you or do you not think that your own 
actions are a partial contributor to your angst??


Don't get me wrong.. I'm not attempting to 
disparage or attack you. I understand you have a 
dispute, it was not to date settled in your favor and that makes you angry.


But some thing that you wrote puzzles me. Your 
own lack of an inventory specifically.


2 weeks ago, I consigned a large collection of 
my own to Profiles in History for their July 
auction. I have a book collection or hardcover 
Photoplay editions in dust jackets dating from 
1913 to the 1940s with additional items up to the 1990s.


I have known Joe Maddalena for a reasonably long 
time and we have done deals on both a personal 
level and via his auction house. However, 
regardless of my relationship with Joe, when I 
consigned this collection to them of 800 books 
and related items, there is no way I would have 
let these items leave my possession without an inventory.


For 2 weeks prior to them leaving my warehouse, 
I photographed each and every item in this 
collection. Yes it was done in part so I could 
have file images of these items for my image 
archive, but it was also done so that in case of 
any disputes, I could prove to Profiles what I 
gave them. This is not for the protection of 
myself and for the protection of Profiles. How 
could I dispute any issues without having such an inventory in my hands??


Did I do this time consuming job for my own pleasure??
No Ma'am
I had plenty of other work to do, and such a 
task only added to my weekly work schedule right 
at a time when I was actually busier than I had 
been in months, and anyone who knows me knows 
that my work schedule is always completely full 
and that I haven't been having lots of playtime 
in my wonderful city of Las Vegas. It actually 
left me with just one day to get ready for 
Cinevent, and that one day wasn't nearly enough.


Joe may be my good friend and I trust him 100%, 
but I do not leave it up to other people to 
protect my own interests, as much as I would 
like to when I don't have any time. If I leave 
it up to someone else to protect my interests, I 
really don't feel I can blame the other party no 
matter how many assurances I have that I can. 
Furthermore, if such a situation were to land me 
in a lawsuit attempting to claim some sort of 
duress, what portion of such duress is my own fault for not protecting myself??


I do remember the days when a handshake deal was 
a bond, but I have also felt the betrayal of a 
handshake deal not being honored, making me wish 
I had done what was necessary to protect myself 
before any issues arose. Not completing such an 
action is no one's fault but my own.


So the question becomes, "IF" your claims are 
true, what responsibility do you think you have 
in not having done what was necessary to protect 
yourself? Do you think this was a failure on 
your behalf, or do you think that you have any responsibility at all?


If you were to sue Heritage, what proof would 
you use to prove your case? Admittedly, you made 
no inventory, Charlie is 82 and you are also at 
an age where things become less clear to the 
mind - through no fault of your own.. It just 
ha

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[allen day]

Howdy y'all,

I don't doubt that if all of the parties had mulligans ...

ad


 From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
 

Geraldine

reading your posts as a outsider makes me wonder about some of the things
you mention in your emails.
Are you trying to get a resolution, or are you just trying to disparage
Rudy Franchi and Heritage?
Also, do you or do you not think that your own actions are a partial
contributor to your angst??

Don't get me wrong.. I'm not attempting to disparage or attack you. I
understand you have a dispute, it was not to date settled in your favor
and that makes you angry.

But some thing that you wrote puzzles me. Your own lack of an inventory
specifically.

2 weeks ago, I consigned a large collection of my own to Profiles in
History for their July auction. I have a book collection or hardcover
Photoplay editions in dust jackets dating from 1913 to the 1940s with
additional items up to the 1990s.

I have known Joe Maddalena for a reasonably long time and we have done
deals on both a personal level and via his auction house. However,
regardless of my relationship with Joe, when I consigned this collection
to them of 800 books and related items, there is no way I would have let
these items leave my possession without an inventory.

For 2 weeks prior to them leaving my warehouse, I photographed each and
every item in this collection. Yes it was done in part so I could have
file images of these items for my image archive, but it was also done so
that in case of any disputes, I could prove to Profiles what I gave them.
This is not for the protection of myself and for the protection of
Profiles. How could I dispute any issues without having such an inventory
in my hands??

Did I do this time consuming job for my own pleasure??
No Ma'am
I had plenty of other work to do, and such a task only added to my weekly
work schedule right at a time when I was actually busier than I had been
in months, and anyone who knows me knows that my work schedule is always
completely full and that I haven't been having lots of playtime in my
wonderful city of Las Vegas. It actually left me with just one day to get
ready for Cinevent, and that one day wasn't nearly enough.

Joe may be my good friend and I trust him 100%, but I do not leave it up
to other people to protect my own interests, as much as I would like to
when I don't have any time. If I leave it up to someone else to protect
my interests, I really don't feel I can blame the other party no matter
how many assurances I have that I can. Furthermore, if such a situation
were to land me in a lawsuit attempting to claim some sort of duress,
what portion of such duress is my own fault for not protecting
myself??

I do remember the days when a handshake deal was a bond, but I have also
felt the betrayal of a handshake deal not being honored, making me wish I
had done what was necessary to protect myself before any issues arose.
Not completing such an action is no one's fault but my own.

So the question becomes, "IF" your claims are true, what
responsibility do you think you have in not having done what was
necessary to protect yourself? Do you think this was a failure on your
behalf, or do you think that you have any responsibility at all?

If you were to sue Heritage, what proof would you use to prove your case?
Admittedly, you made no inventory, Charlie is 82 and you are also at an
age where things become less clear to the mind - through no fault of your
own.. It just happens as people get older. It will happen to me as well
probably.

I have thought at times that something is missing and believed I had
given it to someone, only to later find said item in my inventory,
generally somewhere that it doesn't belong, at which point I was forced
to apologize to that person who I thought screwed me.

You did not do what was necessary to protect yourself, how can that be
the fault of Heritage?

Rich


At 06:15 AM 6/4/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:

Rudy, this list is not just for
dealers.
>
>There are a lot of people who lurk here who are interested in movie
posters. They are not professional dealers in the business. Some may be
non-poster business people interested in selling off collections acquired
from either a lifetime of working in the industry, or inherited them from
dad, who passed on.
>
>This is also a public list which non-subscribers go to for archived
information on how to sell their posters..
>
>As a noted movie poster expert, these uninformed sellers need to know
that you will encourage them to send their collections "post
vite" to Heritage. 
>
>You will not tell them that they need to protect themselves by doing a
photographic inventory and log of their posters before sending to
Heritage. 
>

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Rix Posterz]

Hey,
 
  I've never had any association with Heritage Auctions whatsoever,  but I 
kinda think this topic is getting a bit old.  Hey, Heritage may  indeed have 
flaws, but so do I...and I'm sure you all don't want to hear on and  on and 
on about  them Rick
 
 
In a message dated 6/4/2012 4:42:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
aday_5...@yahoo.com writes:

 
Howdy y'all,


I don't doubt that if all of the parties had mulligans  ...


ad
 
 
  

 From: Richard Halegua Posters +  Comic Art 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU  
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012  3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO]  Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory



Geraldine

reading your posts as a outsider makes me wonder about  some of the things 
you mention in your emails.
Are you trying to get a  resolution, or are you just trying to disparage 
Rudy Franchi and  Heritage?
Also, do you or do you not think that your own actions are a  partial 
contributor to your angst??

Don't get me wrong.. I'm not  attempting to disparage or attack you. I 
understand you have a dispute, it was  not to date settled in your favor and 
that makes you angry.

But some  thing that you wrote puzzles me. Your own lack of an inventory  
specifically.

2 weeks ago, I consigned a large collection of my own to  Profiles in 
History for their July auction. I have a book collection or  hardcover 
Photoplay 
editions in dust jackets dating from 1913 to the 1940s  with additional 
items up to the 1990s.

I have known Joe Maddalena for a  reasonably long time and we have done 
deals on both a personal level and via  his auction house. However, regardless 
of my relationship with Joe, when I  consigned this collection to them of 
800 books and related items, there is no  way I would have let these items 
leave my possession without an  inventory.

For 2 weeks prior to them leaving my warehouse, I  photographed each and 
every item in this collection. Yes it was done in part  so I could have file 
images of these items for my image archive, but it was  also done so that in 
case of any disputes, I could prove to Profiles what I  gave them. This is 
not for the protection of myself and for the protection of  Profiles. How 
could I dispute any issues without having such an inventory in  my hands??

Did I do this time consuming job for my own pleasure??
No  Ma'am
I had plenty of other work to do, and such a task only added to my  weekly 
work schedule right at a time when I was actually busier than I had  been in 
months, and anyone who knows me knows that my work schedule is always  
completely full and that I haven't been having lots of playtime in my  
wonderful 
city of Las Vegas. It actually left me with just one day to get  ready for 
Cinevent, and that one day wasn't nearly enough.

Joe may be  my good friend and I trust him 100%, but I do not leave it up 
to other people  to protect my own interests, as much as I would like to when 
I don't have any  time. If I leave it up to someone else to protect my 
interests, I really don't  feel I can blame the other party no matter how many 
assurances I have that I  can. Furthermore, if such a situation were to land 
me in a lawsuit attempting  to claim some sort of duress, what portion of 
such duress is my own fault for  not protecting myself??

I do remember the days when a handshake deal  was a bond, but I have also 
felt the betrayal of a handshake deal not being  honored, making me wish I 
had done what was necessary to protect myself before  any issues arose. Not 
completing such an action is no one's fault but my  own.

So the question becomes, "IF" your claims are true, what  responsibility do 
you think you have in not having done what was necessary to  protect 
yourself? Do you think this was a failure on your behalf, or do you  think that 
you have any responsibility at all?

If you were to sue  Heritage, what proof would you use to prove your case? 
Admittedly, you made no  inventory, Charlie is 82 and you are also at an age 
where things become less  clear to the mind - through no fault of your 
own.. It just happens as people  get older. It will happen to me as well 
probably.

I have thought at  times that something is missing and believed I had given 
it to someone, only  to later find said item in my inventory, generally 
somewhere that it doesn't  belong, at which point I was forced to apologize to 
that person who I thought  screwed me.

You did not do what was necessary to protect yourself, how  can that be the 
fault of Heritage?

Rich


At 06:15 AM  6/4/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:

Rudy, this list is  not just for dealers.

There are a lot of people who lurk here who are  interested in movie 
posters. They are not professional dealers in the  business. Some may be 
non-poster business people interested in selling off  collections acquired from 
either a lifetime o

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Geraldine Kudaka]

But who killed John Kennedy?



 From: Richard Halegua Comic Art 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
 

Geraldine

the United States did land man on the Moon in 1969

anything else is a silly conspiracy theory

Rich


At 04:16 PM 6/4/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:

Ahh... but here's the kicker I
didn't add before
>
>Heritge claims they have sent back all our posters.
>
>On our consignment sheet from Feb 2010, there's unsold poster which
wasn't returned this past month.
>
>Black and white, on Heritage paper, it states it wasn't sold.
>
>Now have you ever had Heritage claim they returned everything, yet you
have PROOF not everything was returned.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: "Walton, Jeffrey"

>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 3:51 PM
>Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>
>I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t ship a bunch of posters and
claim fooul when no inventory on your part was done no matter if you
trust that identity or not.  When shipping a bunch of poster I
always make an inventory and send along a copy of the inventory as
well.  So when Grey or Bruce compares the list and there is a
discrepancy there is at least a record.  What would have happened if
the parcel was lost in the mail, then try to stake a claim with the
insurance?
> 
>The X-files said it best –  ˜Trust no one.â€�
> 
> 
> 
>From: MoPo List
[mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard
Halegua Posters + Comic Art
>Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:31 PM
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
> 
>Geraldine
>
>reading your posts as a outsider makes me wonder about some of the things
you mention in your emails.
>Are you trying to get a resolution, or are you just trying to disparage
Rudy Franchi and Heritage?
>Also, do you or do you not think that your own actions are a partial
contributor to your angst??
>
>Don't get me wrong.. I'm not attempting to disparage or attack you. I
understand you have a dispute, it was not to date settled in your favor
and that makes you angry.
>
>But some thing that you wrote puzzles me. Your own lack of an inventory
specifically.
>
>2 weeks ago, I consigned a large collection of my own to Profiles in
History for their July auction. I have a book collection or hardcover
Photoplay editions in dust jackets dating from 1913 to the 1940s with
additional items up to the 1990s.
>
>I have known Joe Maddalena for a reasonably long time and we have done
deals on both a personal level and via his auction house. However,
regardless of my relationship with Joe, when I consigned this collection
to them of 800 books and related items, there is no way I would have let
these items leave my possession without an inventory.
>
>For 2 weeks prior to them leaving my warehouse, I photographed each and
every item in this collection. Yes it was done in part so I could have
file images of these items for my image archive, but it was also done so
that in case of any disputes, I could prove to Profiles what I gave them.
This is not for the protection of myself and for the protection of
Profiles. How could I dispute any issues without having such an inventory
in my hands??
>
>Did I do this time consuming job for my own pleasure??
>No Ma'am
>I had plenty of other work to do, and such a task only added to my weekly
work schedule right at a time when I was actually busier than I had been
in months, and anyone who knows me knows that my work schedule is always
completely full and that I haven't been having lots of playtime in my
wonderful city of Las Vegas. It actually left me with just one day to get
ready for Cinevent, and that one day wasn't nearly enough.
>
>Joe may be my good friend and I trust him 100%, but I do not leave it up
to other people to protect my own interests, as much as I would like to
when I don't have any time. If I leave it up to someone else to protect
my interests, I really don't feel I can blame the other party no matter
how many assurances I have that I can. Furthermore, if such a situation
were to land me in a lawsuit attempting to claim some sort of duress,
what portion of such duress is my own fault for not protecting
myself??
>
>I do remember the days when a handshake deal was a bond, but I have also
felt the betrayal of a handshake deal not being honored, making me wish I
had done what was necessary to protect myself before any issues arose.
Not completing such an action is no one's fault but my own.
>
>So the question becomes, "IF" your claims are true, what
responsibility do you think you have in not having done

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Phillip W. Ayling]

"But who killed John Kennedy?"

Perhaps that was the first terrible sign that things go missing in Dallas
  - Original Message - 
  From: Geraldine Kudaka 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 5:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory


  But who killed John Kennedy?



--
  From: Richard Halegua Comic Art 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory



  Geraldine

  the United States did land man on the Moon in 1969

  anything else is a silly conspiracy theory

  Rich


  At 04:16 PM 6/4/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:

Ahh... but here's the kicker I didn't add before

Heritge claims they have sent back all our posters.

On our consignment sheet from Feb 2010, there's unsold poster which wasn't 
returned this past month.

Black and white, on Heritage paper, it states it wasn't sold.

Now have you ever had Heritage claim they returned everything, yet you have 
PROOF not everything was returned.








From: "Walton, Jeffrey" 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t ship a bunch of posters and claim 
fooul when no inventory on your part was done no matter if you trust that 
identity or not.  When shipping a bunch of poster I always make an inventory 
and send along a copy of the inventory as well.  So when Grey or Bruce compares 
the list and there is a discrepancy there is at least a record.  What would 
have happened if the parcel was lost in the mail, then try to stake a claim 
with the insurance?
 
The X-files said it best –  ˜Trust no one.â€�
 
 
 
From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard 
Halegua Posters + Comic Art
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:31 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
 
Geraldine

reading your posts as a outsider makes me wonder about some of the things 
you mention in your emails.
Are you trying to get a resolution, or are you just trying to disparage 
Rudy Franchi and Heritage?
Also, do you or do you not think that your own actions are a partial 
contributor to your angst??

Don't get me wrong.. I'm not attempting to disparage or attack you. I 
understand you have a dispute, it was not to date settled in your favor and 
that makes you angry.

But some thing that you wrote puzzles me. Your own lack of an inventory 
specifically.

2 weeks ago, I consigned a large collection of my own to Profiles in 
History for their July auction. I have a book collection or hardcover Photoplay 
editions in dust jackets dating from 1913 to the 1940s with additional items up 
to the 1990s.

I have known Joe Maddalena for a reasonably long time and we have done 
deals on both a personal level and via his auction house. However, regardless 
of my relationship with Joe, when I consigned this collection to them of 800 
books and related items, there is no way I would have let these items leave my 
possession without an inventory.

For 2 weeks prior to them leaving my warehouse, I photographed each and 
every item in this collection. Yes it was done in part so I could have file 
images of these items for my image archive, but it was also done so that in 
case of any disputes, I could prove to Profiles what I gave them. This is not 
for the protection of myself and for the protection of Profiles. How could I 
dispute any issues without having such an inventory in my hands??

Did I do this time consuming job for my own pleasure??
No Ma'am
I had plenty of other work to do, and such a task only added to my weekly 
work schedule right at a time when I was actually busier than I had been in 
months, and anyone who knows me knows that my work schedule is always 
completely full and that I haven't been having lots of playtime in my wonderful 
city of Las Vegas. It actually left me with just one day to get ready for 
Cinevent, and that one day wasn't nearly enough.

Joe may be my good friend and I trust him 100%, but I do not leave it up to 
other people to protect my own interests, as much as I would like to when I 
don't have any time. If I leave it up to someone else to protect my interests, 
I really don't feel I can blame the other party no matter how many assurances I 
have that I can. Furthermore, if such a situation were to land me in a lawsuit 
attempting to claim some sort of duress, what portion of such duress is my own 
fault for not protecting myself??

I do remember the days when a handshake deal was a bond, but I have also 
felt the bet

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Kirby McDaniel]

Luke Skywalker?

On Jun 4, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:

> But who killed John Kennedy?
> 
> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art 
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
> 
> Geraldine
> 
> the United States did land man on the Moon in 1969
> 
> anything else is a silly conspiracy theory
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> At 04:16 PM 6/4/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:
>> Ahh... but here's the kicker I didn't add before
>> 
>> Heritge claims they have sent back all our posters.
>> 
>> On our consignment sheet from Feb 2010, there's unsold poster which wasn't 
>> returned this past month.
>> 
>> Black and white, on Heritage paper, it states it wasn't sold.
>> 
>> Now have you ever had Heritage claim they returned everything, yet you have 
>> PROOF not everything was returned.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Walton, Jeffrey" 
>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 3:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>> 
>> I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t ship a bunch of posters and claim 
>> fooul when no inventory on your part was done no matter if you trust that 
>> identity or not.  When shipping a bunch of poster I always make an inventory 
>> and send along a copy of the inventory as well.  So when Grey or Bruce 
>> compares the list and there is a discrepancy there is at least a record.  
>> What would have happened if the parcel was lost in the mail, then try to 
>> stake a claim with the insurance?
>>  
>> The X-files said it best –  ˜Trust no one.â€�
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard 
>> Halegua Posters + Comic Art
>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:31 PM
>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>>  
>> Geraldine
>> 
>> reading your posts as a outsider makes me wonder about some of the things 
>> you mention in your emails.
>> Are you trying to get a resolution, or are you just trying to disparage Rudy 
>> Franchi and Heritage?
>> Also, do you or do you not think that your own actions are a partial 
>> contributor to your angst??
>> 
>> Don't get me wrong.. I'm not attempting to disparage or attack you. I 
>> understand you have a dispute, it was not to date settled in your favor and 
>> that makes you angry.
>> 
>> But some thing that you wrote puzzles me. Your own lack of an inventory 
>> specifically.
>> 
>> 2 weeks ago, I consigned a large collection of my own to Profiles in History 
>> for their July auction. I have a book collection or hardcover Photoplay 
>> editions in dust jackets dating from 1913 to the 1940s with additional items 
>> up to the 1990s.
>> 
>> I have known Joe Maddalena for a reasonably long time and we have done deals 
>> on both a personal level and via his auction house. However, regardless of 
>> my relationship with Joe, when I consigned this collection to them of 800 
>> books and related items, there is no way I would have let these items leave 
>> my possession without an inventory.
>> 
>> For 2 weeks prior to them leaving my warehouse, I photographed each and 
>> every item in this collection. Yes it was done in part so I could have file 
>> images of these items for my image archive, but it was also done so that in 
>> case of any disputes, I could prove to Profiles what I gave them. This is 
>> not for the protection of myself and for the protection of Profiles. How 
>> could I dispute any issues without having such an inventory in my hands??
>> 
>> Did I do this time consuming job for my own pleasure??
>> No Ma'am
>> I had plenty of other work to do, and such a task only added to my weekly 
>> work schedule right at a time when I was actually busier than I had been in 
>> months, and anyone who knows me knows that my work schedule is always 
>> completely full and that I haven't been having lots of playtime in my 
>> wonderful city of Las Vegas. It actually left me with just one day to get 
>> ready for Cinevent, and that one day wasn't nearly enough.
>> 
>> Joe may be my good friend and I trust him 100%, but I do not leave it up to 
>> other people to protect my own interests, as much as I would like to when I 
>> don't have any time. If I leave it up to someone else t

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Geraldine Kudaka]

No, no, no Luke it always the hero





 From: Kirby McDaniel 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
 

Luke Skywalker?


On Jun 4, 2012, at 7:11 PM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:

But who killed John Kennedy?
>
>
>
>
> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art 
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 7:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
> 
>
>Geraldine
>
>the United States did land man on the Moon in 1969
>
>anything else is a silly conspiracy theory
>
>Rich
>
>
>At 04:16 PM 6/4/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:
>
>Ahh... but here's the kicker I
didn't add before
>>
>>Heritge claims they have sent back all our posters.
>>
>>On our consignment sheet from Feb 2010, there's unsold poster which
wasn't returned this past month.
>>
>>Black and white, on Heritage paper, it states it wasn't sold.
>>
>>Now have you ever had Heritage claim they returned everything, yet you
have PROOF not everything was returned.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From: "Walton, Jeffrey"

>>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>>Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 3:51 PM
>>Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>>
>>I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t ship a bunch of posters and
claim fooul when no inventory on your part was done no matter if you
trust that identity or not.  When shipping a bunch of poster I
always make an inventory and send along a copy of the inventory as
well.  So when Grey or Bruce compares the list and there is a
discrepancy there is at least a record.  What would have happened if
the parcel was lost in the mail, then try to stake a claim with the
insurance?
>> 
>>The X-files said it best –  ˜Trust no one.â€�
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>From: MoPo List
[mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard
Halegua Posters + Comic Art
>>Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:31 PM
>>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>>Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>> 
>>Geraldine
>>
>>reading your posts as a outsider makes me wonder about some of the things
you mention in your emails.
>>Are you trying to get a resolution, or are you just trying to disparage
Rudy Franchi and Heritage?
>>Also, do you or do you not think that your own actions are a partial
contributor to your angst??
>>
>>Don't get me wrong.. I'm not attempting to disparage or attack you. I
understand you have a dispute, it was not to date settled in your favor
and that makes you angry.
>>
>>But some thing that you wrote puzzles me. Your own lack of an inventory
specifically.
>>
>>2 weeks ago, I consigned a large collection of my own to Profiles in
History for their July auction. I have a book collection or hardcover
Photoplay editions in dust jackets dating from 1913 to the 1940s with
additional items up to the 1990s.
>>
>>I have known Joe Maddalena for a reasonably long time and we have done
deals on both a personal level and via his auction house. However,
regardless of my relationship with Joe, when I consigned this collection
to them of 800 books and related items, there is no way I would have let
these items leave my possession without an inventory.
>>
>>For 2 weeks prior to them leaving my warehouse, I photographed each and
every item in this collection. Yes it was done in part so I could have
file images of these items for my image archive, but it was also done so
that in case of any disputes, I could prove to Profiles what I gave them.
This is not for the protection of myself and for the protection of
Profiles. How could I dispute any issues without having such an inventory
in my hands??
>>
>>Did I do this time consuming job for my own pleasure??
>>No Ma'am
>>I had plenty of other work to do, and such a task only added to my weekly
work schedule right at a time when I was actually busier than I had been
in months, and anyone who knows me knows that my work schedule is always
completely full and that I haven't been having lots of playtime in my
wonderful city of Las Vegas. It actually left me with just one day to get
ready for Cinevent, and that one day wasn't nearly enough.
>>
>>Joe may be my good friend and I trust him 100%, but I do not leave it up
to other people to protect my own interests, as much as I would like to
when I don't have any time. If I leave it up to someone else to protect
my interests, I really don't feel I can blame the other party no matter
how many assurances I have that I can. Fu

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Geraldine Kudaka]

And they're known for the death penalty...





 From: Phillip W. Ayling 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
 

  
"But who killed John Kennedy?"
 
Perhaps that was the first terrible sign that things go missing in 
Dallas
- Original Message - 
>From: Geraldine  Kudaka 
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 5:11 PM
>Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi,  Heritage, no Inventory
>
>
>But who killed John Kennedy?
>
>
>
>
> From: Richard Halegua Comic Art  
>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012  7:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [MOPO]  Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>
>
>Geraldine
>
>the United States did land man on the Moon in 
  1969
>
>anything else is a silly conspiracy 
  theory
>
>Rich
>
>
>At 04:16 PM 6/4/2012, Geraldine Kudaka 
wrote:
>
>Ahh... but here's  the kicker I didn't add before
>>
>>Heritge claims they have sent back 
all our posters.
>>
>>On our consignment sheet from Feb 2010, there's 
unsold poster which wasn't returned this past month.
>>
>>Black and white, 
on Heritage paper, it states it wasn't sold.
>>
>>Now have you ever had 
Heritage claim they returned everything, yet you have PROOF not everything 
    was returned.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From: "Walton, Jeffrey" 
>>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
>>Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 3:51  PM
>>Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no  Inventory
>>
>>I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t ship a 
bunch of posters and claim fooul when no inventory on your part was done no 
matter if you trust that identity or not.  When shipping a bunch of 
poster I always make an inventory and send along a copy of the inventory as 
well.  So when Grey or Bruce compares the list and there is a 
discrepancy there is at least a record.  What would have happened if 
the parcel was lost in the mail, then try to stake a claim with the 
insurance?
>> 
>>The X-files said it best –  ˜Trust no 
one.�
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard 
>>Halegua  Posters + Comic Art
>>Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:31  PM
>>To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>>Subject: Re: [MOPO]  Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>> 
>>Geraldine
>>
>>reading 
your posts as a outsider makes me wonder about some of the things you 
mention in your emails.
>>Are you trying to get a resolution, or are you 
just trying to disparage Rudy Franchi and Heritage?
>>Also, do you or do 
you not think that your own actions are a partial contributor to your 
angst??
>>
>>Don't get me wrong.. I'm not attempting to disparage or 
attack you. I understand you have a dispute, it was not to date settled in 
your favor and that makes you angry.
>>
>>But some thing that you wrote 
puzzles me. Your own lack of an inventory specifically.
>>
>>2 weeks ago, 
I consigned a large collection of my own to Profiles in History for their 
July auction. I have a book collection or hardcover Photoplay editions in 
dust jackets dating from 1913 to the 1940s with additional items up to the 
1990s.
>>
>>I have known Joe Maddalena for a reasonably long time and we 
have done deals on both a personal level and via his auction house. 
However, 
regardless of my relationship with Joe, when I consigned this collection to 
them of 800 books and related items, there is no way I would have let these 
items leave my possession without an inventory.
>>
>>For 2 weeks prior to 
them leaving my warehouse, I photographed each and every item in this 
collection. Yes it was done in part so I could have file images of these 
items for my image archive, but it was also done so that in case of any 
disputes, I could prove to Profiles what I gave them. This is not for the 
protection of myself and for the protection of Profiles. How could I 
dispute 
any issues without having such an inventory in my hands??
>>
>>Did I do 
this time consuming job for my own pleasure??
>>No Ma'am
>>I had plenty of 
other work to do, and such a task only added to my weekly work schedule 
right at a time when I was actually busier than I had been in months, and 
anyone who knows me knows that my work schedule is always completely full 
and that I haven't been having lots of playtime in 

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Bruce Hershenson]

So you are saying that you have dated paperwork listing items as unsold,
and then LATER dated paperwork where they say everything was sold or
returned, and then still LATER dated paperwork where they sent you items
they had previously claimed to have sold or returned?

Bruce

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Geraldine Kudaka wrote:

> Ahh... but here's the kicker I didn't add before
>
> Heritge claims they have sent back all our posters.
>
> On our consignment sheet from Feb 2010, there's unsold poster which wasn't
> returned this past month.
>
> Black and white, on Heritage paper, it states it wasn't sold.
>
> Now have you ever had Heritage claim they returned everything, yet you
> have PROOF not everything was returned.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   --
> *From:* "Walton, Jeffrey" 
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> *Sent:* Monday, June 4, 2012 3:51 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>
>   I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t ship a bunch of posters and
> claim foul when no inventory on your part was done no matter if you trust
> that identity or not.  When shipping a bunch of poster I always make an
> inventory and send along a copy of the inventory as well.  So when Grey or
> Bruce compares the list and there is a discrepancy there is at least a
> record.  What would have happened if the parcel was lost in the mail, then
> try to stake a claim with the insurance?
>
> The X-files said it best – ‘Trust no one.”
>
>
>
>  *From:* MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] *On Behalf Of 
> *Richard
> Halegua Posters + Comic Art
> *Sent:* Monday, June 04, 2012 3:31 PM
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>
> Geraldine
>
> reading your posts as a outsider makes me wonder about some of the things
> you mention in your emails.
> Are you trying to get a resolution, or are you just trying to disparage
> Rudy Franchi and Heritage?
> Also, do you or do you not think that your own actions are a partial
> contributor to your angst??
>
> Don't get me wrong.. I'm not attempting to disparage or attack you. I
> understand you have a dispute, it was not to date settled in your favor and
> that makes you angry.
>
> But some thing that you wrote puzzles me. Your own lack of an inventory
> specifically.
>
> 2 weeks ago, I consigned a large collection of my own to Profiles in
> History for their July auction. I have a book collection or hardcover
> Photoplay editions in dust jackets dating from 1913 to the 1940s with
> additional items up to the 1990s.
>
> I have known Joe Maddalena for a reasonably long time and we have done
> deals on both a personal level and via his auction house. However,
> regardless of my relationship with Joe, when I consigned this collection to
> them of 800 books and related items, there is no way I would have let these
> items leave my possession without an inventory.
>
> For 2 weeks prior to them leaving my warehouse, I photographed each and
> every item in this collection. Yes it was done in part so I could have file
> images of these items for my image archive, but it was also done so that in
> case of any disputes, I could prove to Profiles what I gave them. This is
> not for the protection of myself and for the protection of Profiles. How
> could I dispute any issues without having such an inventory in my hands??
>
> Did I do this time consuming job for my own pleasure??
> No Ma'am
> I had plenty of other work to do, and such a task only added to my weekly
> work schedule right at a time when I was actually busier than I had been in
> months, and anyone who knows me knows that my work schedule is always
> completely full and that I haven't been having lots of playtime in my
> wonderful city of Las Vegas. It actually left me with just one day to get
> ready for Cinevent, and that one day wasn't nearly enough.
>
> Joe may be my good friend and I trust him 100%, but I do not leave it up
> to other people to protect my own interests, as much as I would like to
> when I don't have any time. If I leave it up to someone else to protect my
> interests, I really don't feel I can blame the other party no matter how
> many assurances I have that I can. Furthermore, if such a situation were to
> land me in a lawsuit attempting to claim some sort of duress, what portion
> of such duress is my own fault for not protecting myself??
>
> I do remember the days when a handshake deal was a bond, but I have also
> felt the betrayal of a handshake deal not being honored, making me wish I
> had done what was necessary to protect myself b

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Carlos Duenas]

 
Hi all, 
 
I guess it would be sad to agree that "trust no one" is the best rule. I have 
send posters to Christies in London and took the time to make an inventory 
(because there were only a few items they wanted, they only took posters 
worth over US$250). Even sending the inventory which was very small they didn´t 
send the inventory of what they received and misplaced one of my posters which 
they found after I complained because they did not add it to their following 
auction. On the other hand, I have sent hundreds of posters and lobby cards 
to Bruce Hershenson, I asked if I needed  to send an inventory; they said no, I 
trusted them and so far they haven´t misplaced anything (and not making 
inventories has saved me many hours of work). To be frank I don´t have the 
memory to know if everything I had sent to them has been auction or is being 
held for a later auction, but I trust them and if there were item that were 
special (valuable) I would
 remember them the same way Geraldine remembers her good posters that are 
missing. 
 
Just to add more salt to this e-mail I would like to share an experience that I 
find funny: the same poster I sent to Christies in London, a 1964 NM My Fair 
Lady(which sold for about US$800), I offered to Christies in NY and they said 
they didn´t want it because of its low value, nevertheless, a few days later a 
man from that auction wrote to me saying that he would buy the poster from me 
if I wanted. I also offer that same poster to Heritage a few years ago and they 
said the poster wasn´t good enough for their auction. 
 
I very much appreciate Geraldine sharing with everyone what happened to her, it 
think is fantastic and cheap learning from others´ experiences.
 
Mainly for ethical reasons I think auctions should have standard procedure to 
treat all customers in the same careful and respectful manner no matter their 
age or origin or if they are dealers or collector but also for their 
reputation because there are groups of people like us (mopoers) that would 
share the good and the bad for the benefit of all. 
 
Best,
 
Carlos
  


 From: "Walton, Jeffrey" 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
  

 
I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t ship a bunch of posters and claim foul 
when no inventory on your part was done no matter if you trust that identity or 
not.  When shipping a bunch of poster I always make an inventory and send along 
a copy of the inventory as well.  So when Grey or Bruce compares the list and 
there is a discrepancy there is at least a record.  What would have happened if 
the parcel was lost in the mail, then try to stake a claim with the insurance? 
  
The X-files said it best – ‘Trust no one.” 
  
  
  
From:MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard 
Halegua Posters + Comic Art
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:31 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory   
  
Geraldine

reading your posts as a outsider makes me wonder about some of the things you 
mention in your emails.
Are you trying to get a resolution, or are you just trying to disparage Rudy 
Franchi and Heritage?
Also, do you or do you not think that your own actions are a partial 
contributor to your angst??

Don't get me wrong.. I'm not attempting to disparage or attack you. I 
understand you have a dispute, it was not to date settled in your favor and 
that makes you angry.

But some thing that you wrote puzzles me. Your own lack of an inventory 
specifically.

2 weeks ago, I consigned a large collection of my own to Profiles in History 
for their July auction. I have a book collection or hardcover Photoplay 
editions in dust jackets dating from 1913 to the 1940s with additional items up 
to the 1990s.

I have known Joe Maddalena for a reasonably long time and we have done deals on 
both a personal level and via his auction house. However, regardless of my 
relationship with Joe, when I consigned this collection to them of 800 books 
and related items, there
 is no way I would have let these items leave my possession without an 
inventory.

For 2 weeks prior to them leaving my warehouse, I photographed each and every 
item in this collection. Yes it was done in part so I could have file images of 
these items for my image archive, but it was also done so that in case of any 
disputes, I could prove
 to Profiles what I gave them. This is not for the protection of myself and for 
the protection of Profiles. How could I dispute any issues without having such 
an inventory in my hands??

Did I do this time consuming job for my own pleasure??
No Ma'am
I had plenty of other work to do, and such a task only added to my weekly work 
schedule right at a time when I was actually busier than I had been in months, 
and anyone who knows me knows that my work

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Dale Dilts]

I must be missing exactly how taking an inventory before sending would actually 
help? 

 

I could write up a nice long list of stuff, only send half of it, and then 
claim they lost it, how much sense does that make and in court who exactly is 
going to win that battle.

 

Making a list and taking pictures might make you feel real safe, but sending no 
list at all covers you just the same. Yes it would allow you to reconcile your 
list against a sales list, but other than that, pretty worthless as there is no 
proof what actually ever enters the mail stream or once opened what is done 
with it. 

 

If you are going to consign anything, you simply take the risk of your property 
leaving your hands with potentially no return. Like it or not, trust is still a 
must in any business that is not done person to person.

 

 

 

 

 

From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Carlos Duenas
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:55 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

 

 

Hi all, 

 

I guess it would be sad to agree that "trust no one" is the best rule. I have 
send posters to Christies in London and took the time to make an inventory 
(because there were only a few items they wanted, they only took posters worth 
over US$250). Even sending the inventory which was very small they didn´t send 
the inventory of what they received and misplaced one of my posters which they 
found after I complained because they did not add it to their following 
auction. On the other hand, I have sent hundreds of posters and lobby cards to 
Bruce Hershenson, I asked if I needed  to send an inventory; they said no, I 
trusted them and so far they haven´t misplaced anything (and not making 
inventories has saved me many hours of work). To be frank I don´t have the 
memory to know if everything I had sent to them has been auction or is being 
held for a later auction, but I trust them and if there were item that were 
special (valuable) I would remember them the same way Geraldine remembers her 
good posters that are missing. 

 

Just to add more salt to this e-mail I would like to share an experience that I 
find funny: the same poster I sent to Christies in London, a 1964 NM My Fair 
Lady(which sold for about US$800), I offered to Christies in NY and they said 
they didn´t want it because of its low value, nevertheless, a few days later a 
man from that auction wrote to me saying that he would buy the poster from me 
if I wanted. I also offer that same poster to Heritage a few years ago and they 
said the poster wasn´t good enough for their auction. 

 

I very much appreciate Geraldine sharing with everyone what happened to her, it 
think is fantastic and cheap learning from others´ experiences.

 

Mainly for ethical reasons I think auctions should have standard procedure to 
treat all customers in the same careful and respectful manner no matter their 
age or origin or if they are dealers or collector but also for their reputation 
because there are groups of people like us (mopoers) that would share the good 
and the bad for the benefit of all. 

 

Best,

 

Carlos

  

From: "Walton, Jeffrey" 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

 

I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t ship a bunch of posters and claim foul 
when no inventory on your part was done no matter if you trust that identity or 
not.  When shipping a bunch of poster I always make an inventory and send along 
a copy of the inventory as well.  So when Grey or Bruce compares the list and 
there is a discrepancy there is at least a record.  What would have happened if 
the parcel was lost in the mail, then try to stake a claim with the insurance?

 

The X-files said it best – ‘Trust no one.”

 

 

 

From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard 
Halegua Posters + Comic Art
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:31 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

 

Geraldine

reading your posts as a outsider makes me wonder about some of the things you 
mention in your emails.
Are you trying to get a resolution, or are you just trying to disparage Rudy 
Franchi and Heritage?
Also, do you or do you not think that your own actions are a partial 
contributor to your angst??

Don't get me wrong.. I'm not attempting to disparage or attack you. I 
understand you have a dispute, it was not to date settled in your favor and 
that makes you angry.

But some thing that you wrote puzzles me. Your own lack of an inventory 
specifically.

2 weeks ago, I consigned a large collection of my own to Profiles in History 
for their July auction. I have a book collection or hardcover Photoplay 
editions in dust jackets dating from 1913 to the 1940s with additional items up 
to the 1990s.

I have known Joe Maddalena for a re

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Sean Linkenback]

This is true Dale.

Take me for example:
In early 2010, I sent a bunch of posters to Heritage to auction for me.  
Included in that batch was a rare style Clockwork Orange.
But Heritage never inventoried it, so I can't prove they got it.
And now this lady who maybe didn't send in a Clockwork Orange gets paid for one.

Hey wait a minute...you don't think

Geraldine, since you didn't have a Clockwork Orange on your inventory list 
would you mind sending me the $11,000 check as I am sure I had one?
In return I will pay you for your missing Get Carter and Lennon posters.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dale Dilts 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 12:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory


  I must be missing exactly how taking an inventory before sending would 
actually help? 

   

  I could write up a nice long list of stuff, only send half of it, and then 
claim they lost it, how much sense does that make and in court who exactly is 
going to win that battle.

   

  Making a list and taking pictures might make you feel real safe, but sending 
no list at all covers you just the same. Yes it would allow you to reconcile 
your list against a sales list, but other than that, pretty worthless as there 
is no proof what actually ever enters the mail stream or once opened what is 
done with it. 

   

  If you are going to consign anything, you simply take the risk of your 
property leaving your hands with potentially no return. Like it or not, trust 
is still a must in any business that is not done person to person.

   

   

   

   

   

  From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Carlos 
Duenas
  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:55 AM
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

   

   

  Hi all, 

   

  I guess it would be sad to agree that "trust no one" is the best rule. I have 
send posters to Christies in London and took the time to make an inventory 
(because there were only a few items they wanted, they only took posters worth 
over US$250). Even sending the inventory which was very small they didn´t send 
the inventory of what they received and misplaced one of my posters which they 
found after I complained because they did not add it to their following 
auction. On the other hand, I have sent hundreds of posters and lobby cards to 
Bruce Hershenson, I asked if I needed  to send an inventory; they said no, I 
trusted them and so far they haven´t misplaced anything (and not making 
inventories has saved me many hours of work). To be frank I don´t have the 
memory to know if everything I had sent to them has been auction or is being 
held for a later auction, but I trust them and if there were item that were 
special (valuable) I would remember them the same way Geraldine remembers her 
good posters that are missing. 

   

  Just to add more salt to this e-mail I would like to share an experience that 
I find funny: the same poster I sent to Christies in London, a 1964 NM My Fair 
Lady(which sold for about US$800), I offered to Christies in NY and they said 
they didn´t want it because of its low value, nevertheless, a few days later a 
man from that auction wrote to me saying that he would buy the poster from me 
if I wanted. I also offer that same poster to Heritage a few years ago and they 
said the poster wasn´t good enough for their auction. 

   

  I very much appreciate Geraldine sharing with everyone what happened to her, 
it think is fantastic and cheap learning from others´ experiences.

   

  Mainly for ethical reasons I think auctions should have standard procedure to 
treat all customers in the same careful and respectful manner no matter their 
age or origin or if they are dealers or collector but also for their reputation 
because there are groups of people like us (mopoers) that would share the good 
and the bad for the benefit of all. 

   

  Best,

   

  Carlos



  From: "Walton, Jeffrey" 
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
  Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 12:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

   

  I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t ship a bunch of posters and claim 
foul when no inventory on your part was done no matter if you trust that 
identity or not.  When shipping a bunch of poster I always make an inventory 
and send along a copy of the inventory as well.  So when Grey or Bruce compares 
the list and there is a discrepancy there is at least a record.  What would 
have happened if the parcel was lost in the mail, then try to stake a claim 
with the insurance?

   

  The X-files said it best – ‘Trust no one.”

   

   

   

  From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard 
Halegua Posters + Comic Art
  Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:31 PM
  To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, 

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Bruce Hershenson]

That is why I tell our consignors that an inventory is for THEIR benefit
and not ours. We actually DO keep all consignors' items carefully
segregated until they are marked in three different ways, so that we have a
triple-check system that results in our not losing items. We HAVE had a
small number of minor items misplaced over the years, and we have paid
those people for those few items (and when they were later located, as they
always are, we have offered to let the owner give the money back and have
the items, or we auction them as our consignment).

I still insist that if this were true, there would be at least several
others with the same complaint, and others with legal actions pending. It
makes no sense to be a one-time occurrence, unless there was an employee
stealing, but then they would continue, unless they were discovered and
fired.

Bruce

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Dale Dilts  wrote:

> I must be missing exactly how taking an inventory before sending would
> actually help? 
>
> ** **
>
> I could write up a nice long list of stuff, only send half of it, and then
> claim they lost it, how much sense does that make and in court who exactly
> is going to win that battle.
>
> ** **
>
> Making a list and taking pictures might make you feel real safe, but
> sending no list at all covers you just the same. Yes it would allow you to
> reconcile your list against a sales list, but other than that, pretty
> worthless as there is no proof what actually ever enters the mail stream or
> once opened what is done with it. 
>
> ** **
>
> If you are going to consign anything, you simply take the risk of your
> property leaving your hands with potentially no return. Like it or not,
> trust is still a must in any business that is not done person to person.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Carlos
> Duenas
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:55 AM
>
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>
> ** **
>
>  
>
> Hi all, 
>
>  
>
> I guess it would be sad to agree that "trust no one" is the best rule. I
> have send posters to Christies in London and took the time to make an
> inventory (because there were only a few items they wanted, they only took
> posters worth over US$250). Even sending the inventory which was very small
> they didn´t send the inventory of what they received and misplaced one of
> my posters which they found after I complained because they did not add it
> to their following auction. On the other hand, I have sent hundreds of
> posters and lobby cards to Bruce Hershenson, I asked if I needed  to send
> an inventory; they said no, I trusted them and so far they haven´t
> misplaced anything (and not making inventories has saved me many hours of
> work). To be frank I don´t have the memory to know if everything I had
> sent to them has been auction or is being held for a later auction, but I
> trust them and if there were item that were special (valuable) I would
> remember them the same way Geraldine remembers her good posters that are
> missing. 
>
>  
>
> Just to add more salt to this e-mail I would like to share an
> experience that I find funny: the same poster I sent to Christies in
> London, a 1964 NM My Fair Lady(which sold for about US$800), I offered to
> Christies in NY and they said they didn´t want it because of its low
> value, nevertheless, a few days later a man from that auction wrote to me
> saying that he would buy the poster from me if I wanted. I also offer that
> same poster to Heritage a few years ago and they said the poster wasn´t g
> ood enough for their auction. 
>
>  
>
> I very much appreciate Geraldine sharing with everyone what happened to
> her, it think is fantastic and cheap learning from others´ experiences.***
> *
>
>  
>
> Mainly for ethical reasons I think auctions should have standard procedure
> to treat all customers in the same careful and respectful manner no matter
> their age or origin or if they are dealers or collector but also for their
> reputation because there are groups of people like us (mopoers) that
> would share the good and the bad for the benefit of all. 
>
>  
>
> Best,
>
>  
>
> Carlos
>
>   
>
> *From:* "Walton, Jeffrey" 
> *To:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> *Sent:* Monday, June 4, 2012 12:51 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>
> ** **
>
> I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t ship a bunch of posters and claim
> foul when 

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art]

Like Bruce, I keep any consignments segregated from all other stock.
I do this because in my huge warehouse, it is too 
easy to mix material otherwise.
I also do not give an inventory of material 
received, as it would be impossible for me to 
give up the time needed to do so. I simply 
include a sheet of sold items with any payments 
and I sell all of any consignment within one auction for simplification
However, nearly every consignment I have ever 
received came with an inventory, and it matches my sales sheets.

Ergo, there are no complaints

Concerning any such complaints, like the one Geraldine has with Heritage:
the facts are that Geraldine says she sent some 
things, but she never included an inventory

Heritage says they did not get them
this is a classic case of "she said, he said" and 
if Geraldine were to sue Heritage (and attorney 
Sean will say for sure), her case would be thrown 
out because she has no kind of proof at all of 
posters she sent to anyone and Heritage says they 
didn't get such posters in her consignment.


I can imagine that people get confused all the 
time, and confusion at times leads to false claims
I'm not saying Geraldine is or is not making such 
claims, as I have no way of knowing for certain one way or the other.


however, Geraldine is clearly attempting to 
damage Rudy & Heritage in some fashion by her 
continuing accusations, and while her claims of 
consignments being lost is not "provable", there 
can be no doubt that if Rudy & Heritage wanted to 
sue Geraldine for libelous claims, they would 
have a much more viable claim than Geraldine has of lost posters


Rich



At 10:15 AM 6/5/2012, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
That is why I tell our consignors that an 
inventory is for THEIR benefit and not ours. We 
actually DO keep all consignors' items carefully 
segregated until they are marked in three 
different ways, so that we have a triple-check 
system that results in our not losing items. We 
HAVE had a small number of minor items misplaced 
over the years, and we have paid those people 
for those few items (and when they were later 
located, as they always are, we have offered to 
let the owner give the money back and have the 
items, or we auction them as our consignment).


I still insist that if this were true, there 
would be at least several others with the same 
complaint, and others with legal actions 
pending. It makes no sense to be a one-time 
occurrence, unless there was an employee 
stealing, but then they would continue, unless they were discovered and fired.


Bruce

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Dale Dilts 
<<mailto:ddilts...@mchsi.com>ddilts...@mchsi.com> wrote:


I must be missing exactly how taking an 
inventory before sending would actually help?




I could write up a nice long list of stuff, only 
send half of it, and then claim they lost it, 
how much sense does that make and in court who 
exactly is going to win that battle.




Making a list and taking pictures might make you 
feel real safe, but sending no list at all 
covers you just the same. Yes it would allow you 
to reconcile your list against a sales list, but 
other than that, pretty worthless as there is no 
proof what actually ever enters the mail stream 
or once opened what is done with it.




If you are going to consign anything, you simply 
take the risk of your property leaving your 
hands with potentially no return. Like it or 
not, trust is still a must in any business that is not done person to person.












From: MoPo List 
[mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Carlos Duenas

Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:55 AM

To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory





Hi all,



I guess it would be sad to agree that "trust no 
one" is the best rule. I have send posters to 
Christies in London and took the time to make an 
inventory (because there were only a few items 
they wanted, they only took posters worth over 
US$250). Even sending the inventory which was 
very small they didn´t send the inventory of 
what they received and misplaced one of my 
posters which they found after I complained 
because they did not add it to their following 
auction. On the other hand, I have sent hundreds 
of posters and lobby cards to Bruce Hershenson, 
I asked if I needed  to send an inventory; they 
said no, I trusted them and so far they haven´t 
misplaced anything (and not making inventories 
has saved me many hours of work). To be frank I 
don´t have the memory to know if everything I 
had sent to them has been auction or is being 
held for a later auction, but I trust them and 
if there were item that were special (valuable) 
I would remember them the same way Geraldine 
remembers her good posters that are missing.




Just to add more salt to this e-mail I would 
like to share an experience that I find funny: 

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Kirby McDaniel]

I don't think I could improve upon what Rich has posted here.  It is, at best, 
an unfortunate situation
for all concerned.  But I don't think anything helpful is further served by 
just beating this very expired
horse.

Perhaps I could post a one sheet for LEGEND OF THE LOST?

Kirby 



Kirby McDaniel
MovieArt Original Film Posters
P.O. Box 4419
Austin TX 78765-4419
512 479 6680  www.movieart.net
mobile 512 589 5112

On Jun 5, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art wrote:

> Like Bruce, I keep any consignments segregated from all other stock.
> I do this because in my huge warehouse, it is too easy to mix material 
> otherwise. 
> I also do not give an inventory of material received, as it would be 
> impossible for me to give up the time needed to do so. I simply include a 
> sheet of sold items with any payments and I sell all of any consignment 
> within one auction for simplification
> However, nearly every consignment I have ever received came with an 
> inventory, and it matches my sales sheets.
> Ergo, there are no complaints
> 
> Concerning any such complaints, like the one Geraldine has with Heritage:
> the facts are that Geraldine says she sent some things, but she never 
> included an inventory
> Heritage says they did not get them
> this is a classic case of "she said, he said" and if Geraldine were to sue 
> Heritage (and attorney Sean will say for sure), her case would be thrown out 
> because she has no kind of proof at all of posters she sent to anyone and 
> Heritage says they didn't get such posters in her consignment.
> 
> I can imagine that people get confused all the time, and confusion at times 
> leads to false claims
> I'm not saying Geraldine is or is not making such claims, as I have no way of 
> knowing for certain one way or the other.
> 
> however, Geraldine is clearly attempting to damage Rudy & Heritage in some 
> fashion by her continuing accusations, and while her claims of consignments 
> being lost is not "provable", there can be no doubt that if Rudy & Heritage 
> wanted to sue Geraldine for libelous claims, they would have a much more 
> viable claim than Geraldine has of lost posters
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> 
> At 10:15 AM 6/5/2012, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
>> That is why I tell our consignors that an inventory is for THEIR benefit and 
>> not ours. We actually DO keep all consignors' items carefully segregated 
>> until they are marked in three different ways, so that we have a 
>> triple-check system that results in our not losing items. We HAVE had a 
>> small number of minor items misplaced over the years, and we have paid those 
>> people for those few items (and when they were later located, as they always 
>> are, we have offered to let the owner give the money back and have the 
>> items, or we auction them as our consignment).
>> 
>> I still insist that if this were true, there would be at least several 
>> others with the same complaint, and others with legal actions pending. It 
>> makes no sense to be a one-time occurrence, unless there was an employee 
>> stealing, but then they would continue, unless they were discovered and 
>> fired.
>> 
>> Bruce
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Dale Dilts  wrote:
>> 
>> I must be missing exactly how taking an inventory before sending would 
>> actually help? 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I could write up a nice long list of stuff, only send half of it, and then 
>> claim they lost it, how much sense does that make and in court who exactly 
>> is going to win that battle.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Making a list and taking pictures might make you feel real safe, but sending 
>> no list at all covers you just the same. Yes it would allow you to reconcile 
>> your list against a sales list, but other than that, pretty worthless as 
>> there is no proof what actually ever enters the mail stream or once opened 
>> what is done with it. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If you are going to consign anything, you simply take the risk of your 
>> property leaving your hands with potentially no return. Like it or not, 
>> trust is still a must in any business that is not done person to person.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Carlos 
>> Duenas
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:55 AM
>> 
>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>&g

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Bruce Hershenson]

But why are they offering to donate thousands of dollars to charity if they
did nothing wrong?

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Kirby McDaniel  wrote:

> I don't think I could improve upon what Rich has posted here.  It is, at
> best, an unfortunate situation
> for all concerned.  But I don't think anything helpful is further served
> by just beating this very expired
> horse.
>
> Perhaps I could post a one sheet for LEGEND OF THE LOST?
>
> Kirby
>
>
>
> Kirby McDaniel
> MovieArt Original Film Posters
> P.O. Box 4419
> Austin TX 78765-4419
> 512 479 6680  www.movieart.net
> mobile 512 589 5112
>
> On Jun 5, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art wrote:
>
>  Like Bruce, I keep any consignments segregated from all other stock.
> I do this because in my huge warehouse, it is too easy to mix material
> otherwise.
> I also do not give an inventory of material received, as it would be
> impossible for me to give up the time needed to do so. I simply include a
> sheet of sold items with any payments and I sell all of any consignment
> within one auction for simplification
> However, nearly every consignment I have ever received came with an
> inventory, and it matches my sales sheets.
> Ergo, there are no complaints
>
> Concerning any such complaints, like the one Geraldine has with Heritage:
> the facts are that Geraldine says she sent some things, but she never
> included an inventory
> Heritage says they did not get them
> this is a classic case of "she said, he said" and if Geraldine were to sue
> Heritage (and attorney Sean will say for sure), her case would be thrown
> out because she has no kind of proof at all of posters she sent to anyone
> and Heritage says they didn't get such posters in her consignment.
>
> I can imagine that people get confused all the time, and confusion at
> times leads to false claims
> I'm not saying Geraldine is or is not making such claims, as I have no way
> of knowing for certain one way or the other.
>
> however, Geraldine is clearly attempting to damage Rudy & Heritage in some
> fashion by her continuing accusations, and while her claims of consignments
> being lost is not "provable", there can be no doubt that if Rudy & Heritage
> wanted to sue Geraldine for libelous claims, they would have a much more
> viable claim than Geraldine has of lost posters
>
> Rich
>
>
>
> At 10:15 AM 6/5/2012, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
>
> That is why I tell our consignors that an inventory is for THEIR benefit
> and not ours. We actually DO keep all consignors' items carefully
> segregated until they are marked in three different ways, so that we have a
> triple-check system that results in our not losing items. We HAVE had a
> small number of minor items misplaced over the years, and we have paid
> those people for those few items (and when they were later located, as they
> always are, we have offered to let the owner give the money back and have
> the items, or we auction them as our consignment).
>
> I still insist that if this were true, there would be at least several
> others with the same complaint, and others with legal actions pending. It
> makes no sense to be a one-time occurrence, unless there was an employee
> stealing, but then they would continue, unless they were discovered and
> fired.
>
> Bruce
>
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Dale Dilts  wrote:
>
> I must be missing exactly how taking an inventory before sending would
> actually help?
>
>
>
> I could write up a nice long list of stuff, only send half of it, and then
> claim they lost it, how much sense does that make and in court who exactly
> is going to win that battle.
>
>
>
> Making a list and taking pictures might make you feel real safe, but
> sending no list at all covers you just the same. Yes it would allow you to
> reconcile your list against a sales list, but other than that, pretty
> worthless as there is no proof what actually ever enters the mail stream or
> once opened what is done with it.
>
>
>
> If you are going to consign anything, you simply take the risk of your
> property leaving your hands with potentially no return. Like it or not,
> trust is still a must in any business that is not done person to person.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: MoPo List [ 
> mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Carlos Duenas
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:55 AM
>
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I guess it would be sad to agree that "trust no one" is the best rule

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art]

Bruce.. I don't know that the two posters she's 
talking about are worth $1000 combined.


Heritage could just be looking to defuse the 
situation and they do after all at least get to 
reduce a tax implication with a tax-deductable donation




At 11:30 AM 6/5/2012, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
But why are they offering to donate thousands of 
dollars to charity if they did nothing wrong?


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Kirby McDaniel 
<<mailto:ki...@movieart.net>ki...@movieart.net> wrote:
I don't think I could improve upon what Rich has 
posted here.  It is, at best, an unfortunate situation
for all concerned.  But I don't think anything 
helpful is further served by just beating this very expired

horse.

Perhaps I could post a one sheet for LEGEND OF THE LOST?

Kirby



Kirby McDaniel
MovieArt Original Film Posters
P.O. Box 4419
Austin TX 78765-4419
512 479 6680  <http://www.movieart.net>www.movieart.net
mobile 512 589 5112

On Jun 5, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art wrote:


Like Bruce, I keep any consignments segregated from all other stock.
I do this because in my huge warehouse, it is 
too easy to mix material otherwise.
I also do not give an inventory of material 
received, as it would be impossible for me to 
give up the time needed to do so. I simply 
include a sheet of sold items with any payments 
and I sell all of any consignment within one auction for simplification
However, nearly every consignment I have ever 
received came with an inventory, and it matches my sales sheets.

Ergo, there are no complaints

Concerning any such complaints, like the one Geraldine has with Heritage:
the facts are that Geraldine says she sent some 
things, but she never included an inventory

Heritage says they did not get them
this is a classic case of "she said, he said" 
and if Geraldine were to sue Heritage (and 
attorney Sean will say for sure), her case 
would be thrown out because she has no kind of 
proof at all of posters she sent to anyone and 
Heritage says they didn't get such posters in her consignment.


I can imagine that people get confused all the 
time, and confusion at times leads to false claims
I'm not saying Geraldine is or is not making 
such claims, as I have no way of knowing for certain one way or the other.


however, Geraldine is clearly attempting to 
damage Rudy & Heritage in some fashion by her 
continuing accusations, and while her claims of 
consignments being lost is not "provable", 
there can be no doubt that if Rudy & Heritage 
wanted to sue Geraldine for libelous claims, 
they would have a much more viable claim than Geraldine has of lost posters


Rich



At 10:15 AM 6/5/2012, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
That is why I tell our consignors that an 
inventory is for THEIR benefit and not ours. 
We actually DO keep all consignors' items 
carefully segregated until they are marked in 
three different ways, so that we have a 
triple-check system that results in our not 
losing items. We HAVE had a small number of 
minor items misplaced over the years, and we 
have paid those people for those few items 
(and when they were later located, as they 
always are, we have offered to let the owner 
give the money back and have the items, or we auction them as our consignment).


I still insist that if this were true, there 
would be at least several others with the same 
complaint, and others with legal actions 
pending. It makes no sense to be a one-time 
occurrence, unless there was an employee 
stealing, but then they would continue, unless they were discovered and fired.


Bruce

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Dale Dilts 
<<mailto:ddilts...@mchsi.com>ddilts...@mchsi.com> wrote:
I must be missing exactly how taking an 
inventory before sending would actually help?


I could write up a nice long list of stuff, 
only send half of it, and then claim they lost 
it, how much sense does that make and in court 
who exactly is going to win that battle.


Making a list and taking pictures might make 
you feel real safe, but sending no list at all 
covers you just the same. Yes it would allow 
you to reconcile your list against a sales 
list, but other than that, pretty worthless as 
there is no proof what actually ever enters 
the mail stream or once opened what is done with it.


If you are going to consign anything, you 
simply take the risk of your property leaving 
your hands with potentially no return. Like it 
or not, trust is still a must in any business 
that is not done person to person.






From: MoPo List [ 
mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Carlos Duenas

Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:55 AM
To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory


Hi all,

I guess it would be sad to agree that "trust 
no one" is the best rule. I have send posters 
to Christies in Lon

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art]

If you are a scammer and the only beneficiary of your scam was the 
Red Cross, you are less inclined to try the same thing again.



very well put Phillip


ps: I do not believe that Geraldine is doing this. I believe she is 
angry & lashing out at her "apparent" source of anger


pps: I also think that Geraldine isn't looking at the issue 
objectively.. i.e. - Geraldine is not accepting any responsibility on 
her own for whatever mistakes she may have made in not preparing her 
own inventory 


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Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Richard C Evans]

ould write up a nice long list of stuff, only send half of it, and then 
>>>> claim they lost it, how much sense does that make and in court who exactly 
>>>> is going to win that battle.
>>>>  
>>>> Making a list and taking pictures might make you feel real safe, but 
>>>> sending no list at all covers you just the same. Yes it would allow you to 
>>>> reconcile your list against a sales list, but other than that, pretty 
>>>> worthless as there is no proof what actually ever enters the mail stream 
>>>> or once opened what is done with it. 
>>>>  
>>>> If you are going to consign anything, you simply take the risk of your 
>>>> property leaving your hands with potentially no return. Like it or not, 
>>>> trust is still a must in any business that is not done person to person.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Carlos 
>>>> Duenas
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:55 AM
>>>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>>>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Hi all, 
>>>>  
>>>> I guess it would be sad to agree that "trust no one" is the best rule. I 
>>>> have send posters to Christies in London and took the time to make an 
>>>> inventory (because there were only a few items they wanted, they only took 
>>>> posters worth over US$250). Even sending the inventory which was very 
>>>> small they didn´t send the inventory of what they received and misplaced 
>>>> one of my posters which they found after I complained because they did not 
>>>> add it to their following auction. On the other hand, I have sent hundreds 
>>>> of posters and lobby cards to Bruce Hershenson, I asked if I needed  to 
>>>> send an inventory; they said no, I trusted them and so far they haven´t 
>>>> misplaced anything (and not making inventories has saved me many hours of 
>>>> work). To be frank I don´t have the memory to know if everything I had 
>>>> sent to them has been auction or is being held for a later auction, but I 
>>>> trust them and if there were item that were special (valuable) I would 
>>>> remember them the same way Geraldine remembers her good posters that are 
>>>> missing. 
>>>>  
>>>> Just to add more salt to this e-mail I would like to share an experience 
>>>> that I find funny: the same poster I sent to Christies in London, a 1964 
>>>> NM My Fair Lady(which sold for about US$800), I offered to Christies in NY 
>>>> and they said they didn´t want it because of its low value, nevertheless, 
>>>> a few days later a man from that auction wrote to me saying that he would 
>>>> buy the poster from me if I wanted. I also offer that same poster to 
>>>> Heritage a few years ago and they said the poster wasn´t good enough for 
>>>> their auction. 
>>>>  
>>>> I very much appreciate Geraldine sharing with everyone what happened to 
>>>> her, it think is fantastic and cheap learning from others´ experiences.
>>>>  
>>>> Mainly for ethical reasons I think auctions should have standard procedure 
>>>> to treat all customers in the same careful and respectful manner no matter 
>>>> their age or origin or if they are dealers or collector but also for their 
>>>> reputation because there are groups of people like us (mopoers) that would 
>>>> share the good and the bad for the benefit of all. 
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Best,
>>>>  
>>>> Carlos
>>>>   
>>>> From: "Walton, Jeffrey" < jeffrey.wal...@fisglobal.com>
>>>> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 12:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>>>>  
>>>> I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t ship a bunch of posters and claim 
>>>> foul when no inventory on your part was done no matter if you trust that 
>>>> identity or not.  When shipping a bunch of poster I always make an 
>>>> inventory and send along a copy of the inventory as well.  So when Grey or 
>>>> Bruce compares the list and there is a discrepancy there is at least a 
>>>> record.  What would have happened if the parcel was lost in the 

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art]

business that is not done person to person.






From: MoPo List [ 
mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Carlos Duenas

Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:55 AM
To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory


Hi all,

I guess it would be sad to agree that "trust 
no one" is the best rule. I have send 
posters to Christies in London and took the 
time to make an inventory (because there 
were only a few items they wanted, they only 
took posters worth over US$250). Even 
sending the inventory which was very small 
they didn´t send the inventory of what they 
received and misplaced one of my posters 
which they found after I complained because 
they did not add it to their following 
auction. On the other hand, I have sent 
hundreds of posters and lobby cards to Bruce 
Hershenson, I asked if I needed  to send an 
inventory; they said no, I trusted them and 
so far they haven´t misplaced anything (and 
not making inventories has saved me many 
hours of work). To be frank I don´t have 
the memory to know if everything I had sent 
to them has been auction or is being held 
for a later auction, but I trust them and if 
there were item that were special (valuable) 
I would remember them the same way Geraldine 
remembers her good posters that are missing.


Just to add more salt to this e-mail I would 
like to share an experience that I find 
funny: the same poster I sent to Christies 
in London, a 1964 NM My Fair Lady(which sold 
for about US$800), I offered to Christies in 
NY and they said they didn´t want it 
because of its low value, nevertheless, a 
few days later a man from that auction wrote 
to me saying that he would buy the poster 
from me if I wanted. I also offer that same 
poster to Heritage a few years ago and they 
said the poster wasn´t good enough for their auction.


I very much appreciate Geraldine sharing 
with everyone what happened to her, it think 
is fantastic and cheap learning from others´ experiences.


Mainly for ethical reasons I think auctions 
should have standard procedure to treat all 
customers in the same careful and respectful 
manner no matter their age or origin or if 
they are dealers or collector but also for 
their reputation because there are groups of 
people like us (mopoers) that would share 
the good and the bad for the benefit of all.


Best,

Carlos

From: "Walton, Jeffrey" 
<<mailto:jeffrey.wal...@fisglobal.com> jeffrey.wal...@fisglobal.com>

To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t 
ship a buncch of posters and claim foul when 
no inventory on your part was done no matter 
if you trust that identity or not.  When 
shipping a bunch of poster I always make an 
inventory and send along a copy of the 
inventory as well.  So when Grey or Bruce 
compares the list and there is a discrepancy 
there is at least a record.  What would have 
happened if the parcel was lost in the mail, 
then try to stake a claim with the insurance?


The X-files said it best – ‘Trust no one.”<



From: MoPo List 
<mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>[ 
<mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
<mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>] On 
Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art

Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:31 PM
To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

Geraldine
reading your posts as a outsider makes me 
wonder about some of the things you mention in your emails.
Are you trying to get a resolution, or are 
you just trying to disparage Rudy Franchi and Heritage?
Also, do you or do you not think that your 
own actions are a partial contributor to your angst??
Don't get me wrong.. I'm not attempting to 
disparage or attack you. I understand you 
have a dispute, it was not to date settled 
in your favor and that makes you angry.
But some thing that you wrote puzzles me. 
Your own lack of an inventory specifically.
2 weeks ago, I consigned a large collection 
of my own to Profiles in History for their 
July auction. I have a book collection or 
hardcover Photoplay editions in dust jackets 
dating from 1913 to the 1940s with additional items up to the 1990s.
I have known Joe Maddalena for a reasonably 
long time and we have done deals on both a 
personal level and via his auction house. 
However, regardless of my relationship with 
Joe, when I consigned this collection to 
them of 800 books and related items, there 
is no way I would have let these items leave 
my possession without an inventory.
For 2 weeks prior to them leaving my 
warehouse, I photographed each and every 
item in this collection. Yes it was done in 
part so I could 

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Bruce Hershenson]

 Geraldine has of lost
>>>>> posters
>>>>>Rich
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>At 10:15 AM 6/5/2012, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
>>>>>>That is why I tell our consignors that an
>>>>>>inventory is for THEIR benefit and not ours.
>>>>>>We actually DO keep all consignors' items
>>>>>>carefully segregated until they are marked
>>>>>>in three different ways, so that we have a
>>>>>>triple-check system that results in our not
>>>>>>losing items. We HAVE had a small number of
>>>>>>minor items misplaced over the years, and we
>>>>>>have paid those people for those few items
>>>>>>(and when they were later located, as they
>>>>>>always are, we have offered to let the owner
>>>>>>give the money back and have the items, or we auction them as our
>>>>>> consignment).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I still insist that if this were true, there
>>>>>>would be at least several others with the
>>>>>>same complaint, and others with legal
>>>>>>actions pending. It makes no sense to be a
>>>>>>one-time occurrence, unless there was an
>>>>>>employee stealing, but then they would
>>>>>>continue, unless they were discovered and fired.
>>>>>>Bruce
>>>>>>On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Dale Dilts
>>>>>><<mailto:ddilts...@mchsi.com>ddilts...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>I must be missing exactly how taking an
>>>>>>inventory before sending would actually help?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I could write up a nice long list of stuff,
>>>>>>only send half of it, and then claim they
>>>>>>lost it, how much sense does that make and
>>>>>>in court who exactly is going to win that battle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Making a list and taking pictures might make
>>>>>>you feel real safe, but sending no list at
>>>>>>all covers you just the same. Yes it would
>>>>>>allow you to reconcile your list against a
>>>>>>sales list, but other than that, pretty
>>>>>>worthless as there is no proof what actually
>>>>>>ever enters the mail stream or once opened what is done with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you are going to consign anything, you
>>>>>>simply take the risk of your property
>>>>>>leaving your hands with potentially no
>>>>>>return. Like it or not, trust is still a
>>>>>>must in any business that is not done person to person.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>From: MoPo List [
>>>>>>mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Carlos Duenas
>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:55 AM
>>>>>>To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>>>>>>Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I guess it would be sad to agree that "trust
>>>>>>no one" is the best rule. I have send
>>>>>>posters to Christies in London and took the
>>>>>>time to make an inventory (because there
>>>>>>were only a few items they wanted, they only
>>>>>>took posters worth over US$250). Even
>>>>>>sending the inventory which was very small
>>>>>>they didn´t send the inventory of what they
>>>>>>received and misplaced one of my posters
>>>>>>which they found after I complained because
>>>>>>they did not add it to their following
>>>>>>auction. On the other hand, I have sent
>>>>>>hundreds of posters and lobby cards to Bruce
>>>>>>Hershenson, I asked if I needed  to send an
>>>>>>inventory; they said no, I trusted them and
>>>>>>so far they haven´t misplaced anything (and
>>>>>>not making inventories has saved me many
>>>>>>hours of work). To be frank I don´t have
>>>>>>the memory to know if everything I had sent
>>>>>>to them has been auction or is being held

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Bruce Hershenson]

out because she has no kind
>>>>>>of proof at all of posters she sent to anyone
>>>>>>and Heritage says they didn't get such posters in her consignment.
>>>>>>I can imagine that people get confused all
>>>>>>the time, and confusion at times leads to false claims
>>>>>>I'm not saying Geraldine is or is not making
>>>>>>such claims, as I have no way of knowing for certain one way or the
>>>>>> other.
>>>>>>however, Geraldine is clearly attempting to
>>>>>>damage Rudy & Heritage in some fashion by her
>>>>>>continuing accusations, and while her claims
>>>>>>of consignments being lost is not "provable",
>>>>>>there can be no doubt that if Rudy & Heritage
>>>>>>wanted to sue Geraldine for libelous claims,
>>>>>>they would have a much more viable claim than Geraldine has of lost
>>>>>> posters
>>>>>>Rich
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 10:15 AM 6/5/2012, Bruce Hershenson wrote:
>>>>>>>That is why I tell our consignors that an
>>>>>>>inventory is for THEIR benefit and not ours.
>>>>>>>We actually DO keep all consignors' items
>>>>>>>carefully segregated until they are marked
>>>>>>>in three different ways, so that we have a
>>>>>>>triple-check system that results in our not
>>>>>>>losing items. We HAVE had a small number of
>>>>>>>minor items misplaced over the years, and we
>>>>>>>have paid those people for those few items
>>>>>>>(and when they were later located, as they
>>>>>>>always are, we have offered to let the owner
>>>>>>>give the money back and have the items, or we auction them as our
>>>>>>> consignment).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I still insist that if this were true, there
>>>>>>>would be at least several others with the
>>>>>>>same complaint, and others with legal
>>>>>>>actions pending. It makes no sense to be a
>>>>>>>one-time occurrence, unless there was an
>>>>>>>employee stealing, but then they would
>>>>>>>continue, unless they were discovered and fired.
>>>>>>>Bruce
>>>>>>>On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Dale Dilts
>>>>>>><<mailto:ddilts...@mchsi.com>ddilts...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>I must be missing exactly how taking an
>>>>>>>inventory before sending would actually help?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I could write up a nice long list of stuff,
>>>>>>>only send half of it, and then claim they
>>>>>>>lost it, how much sense does that make and
>>>>>>>in court who exactly is going to win that battle.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Making a list and taking pictures might make
>>>>>>>you feel real safe, but sending no list at
>>>>>>>all covers you just the same. Yes it would
>>>>>>>allow you to reconcile your list against a
>>>>>>>sales list, but other than that, pretty
>>>>>>>worthless as there is no proof what actually
>>>>>>>ever enters the mail stream or once opened what is done with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you are going to consign anything, you
>>>>>>>simply take the risk of your property
>>>>>>>leaving your hands with potentially no
>>>>>>>return. Like it or not, trust is still a
>>>>>>>must in any business that is not done person to person.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: MoPo List [
>>>>>>>mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Carlos Duenas
>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:55 AM
>>>>>>>To: <mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I guess it wou

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[David Kusumoto]

This seems like "Mr. Smith Goes to
Washington", with the entire "machine" lined up against her. Too bad
this isn't a movie. It sounds like she will have to give up and take
her losses (if indeed she had any). You can't fight the "machine".My goodness, 
no kidding.  I wish people would stop "extrapolating the motives of" and/or 
"speaking on behalf of" Heritage.  If it wants, it can chime in.  All of these 
"testimonials" are sickening.  I think Grey is a fine guy, but it's wild to 
read the genuflecting posts which give Heritage all the benefit of the doubt 
while casting Geraldine as a senile loon.  On one hand people stop short of 
calling her a liar, but regardless of any errors she may have made (and it 
appears she has made a few) - it's also clear that a WAY-too-disproportionate 
number of "rebuking' responses have come dealers - with only a few posts from 
collectors like Carlos, who has no dog in this race, yet who applauds the 
discussion of things that sometimes go awry in the hobby.  If you are tired of 
this thread and/or want it to die on its own, stop responding.  But some of you 
guys are unreal.  (And geez, it's always the alpha-males who feel compelled to 
defend, rationalize or process the thoughts and actions of a guy most of us 
like - while simultaneously doing the same in an almost entirely adverse way 
against an "outsider."  The ratio of dealers posting their thoughts about 
consumer-related problems - feels like a rigged card deck that's stacked 
10-to-1 against collectors.  Lurkers can't feel good about the way this has 
played out on MoPo.  And I'd bet more than a few who've quietly read some of 
the posts thus far - are taking mental notes of who they will buy, sell or 
consign their very valuable collections in the future. -d. 
-Original Message-
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:10:29 -0500
From: brucehershen...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
I guess I just come at this from a different perspective, having never
been in court or been sued or been arrested. I would not pay someone
for something I did not do, but I guess that is just me.
 
On the other hand, if Geraldine is simply lying, WHY is she doing so?
What is she gaining by this? This seems like "Mr. Smith Goes to
Washigton", with the entire "machine" lined up against her. Too bad
this isn't a movie. It sounds like she will have to give up and take
her losses (if indeed she had any). You can't fight the "machine".
 
Bruce


  
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Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Richard Halegua Comic Art]

David

I think you have mis-characterized what is going on this thread somewhat

No one has accused Geraldine of anything, or at least I certainly 
haven't. Why has anyone other than Grey commented? well that's 
simple.. Geraldine has posted to a public forum with many members. I 
have seen both collectors and dealers comment and Grey himself 
commented to one of her earlier posts. Most posts have been pretty 
fair to both sides. I.E. none of us can know if Geraldine did or did 
not send the posters she declares are missing, or if she mistakenly 
stating that she has, not knowing these posters will be found at a 
later date in their home.


In any case, her claim has a hard way to go. She stated pretty simply 
she got $11,000 for some poster that she did not know that Charlie 
sent or she sent or who knows who sent (as some much of her posts are 
somewhat confusing), so that says to me that she really isn't sure on 
any level what was sent as she thinks she sent some valuable poster, 
but had no idea she had actually sent a different and more valuable poster.


She is also here, on MoPo, specifically for the purpose it seems of 
disparaging Rudy & Heritage. Her posts are not benign by any stretch 
of the imagination and and it has been getting repeated continually 
for several weeks. I think it's only natural that quite a few people 
will chime in on such posts as they are designed to elicit a response 
from people.


My suggestion to Geraldine would be that if she feels she has enough 
proof to show she did indeed send these posters, that she go to the 
forum that would produce a judgement in her favor: the courts system, 
or via direct negotiation with Heritage and that posting her problem 
here to MoPo would therefore not be the correct forum for her 
dispute. However I do not agree with some other people that she 
should not post on MoPo her dispute. She certainly can, but she will 
get a response from someone of course.


Of course, we actually already know that she has negotiated with 
Heritage on the issue, Heritage disputes her claim, but offered to 
give to the charity of her choice the proposed value of these 
posters. We know all this not because Grey posted it, but because 
Geraldine posted it. None the less, it is apparent that Geraldine 
feels that she and not some charity should get the money for these 
posters that she says she sent, are not present on any inventory, and 
that Heritage says they did not receive them and it feels unseemly to 
them to pay her thousands of dollars for posters they don't believe 
she sent them.


How do you think any third party might adjudicate this situation David??
do you think Heritage's offer to make a charitable donation to the 
charity of Geraldine's choice actually might be fair in light of all 
these circumstances and do you feel it is right for Geraldine to 
repeatedly and purposefully libel Heritage on this forum without repercussions?





At 03:42 PM 6/5/2012, you wrote:


This seems like "Mr. Smith Goes to


Washington", with the entire "machine" lined up against her. Too bad


this isn't a movie. It sounds like she will have to give up and take


her losses (if indeed she had any). You can't fight the "machine".
My goodness, no kidding.  I wish people would stop "extrapolating 
the motives of" and/or "speaking on behalf of" Heritage.  If it 
wants, it can chime in.  All of these "testimonials" are 
sickening.  I think Grey is a fine guy, but it's wild to read the 
genuflecting posts which give Heritage all the benefit of the doubt 
while casting Geraldine as a senile loon.  On one hand people stop 
short of calling her a liar, but regardless of any errors she may 
have made (and it appears she has made a few) - it's also clear that 
a WAY-too-disproportionate number of "rebuking' responses have come 
dealers - with only a few posts from collectors like Carlos, who has 
no dog in this race, yet who applauds the discussion of things that 
sometimes go awry in the hobby.  If you are tired of this thread 
and/or want it to die on its own, stop responding.  But some of you 
guys are unreal.  (And geez, it's always the alpha-males who feel 
compelled to defend, rationalize or process the thoughts and actions 
of a guy most of us like - while simultaneously doing the same in an 
almost entirely adverse way against an "outsider."  The ratio of 
dealers posting their thoughts about consumer-related problems - 
feels like a rigged card deck that's stacked 10-to-1 against 
collectors.  Lurkers can't feel good about the way this has played 
out on MoPo.  And I'd bet more than a few who've quietly read some 
of the posts thus far - are taking mental notes of who they will 
buy, sell or consign their very valuable collections in the future. -d.


-Original Message-
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:10:29 -0500
From: brucehershen...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU


I guess I just come at this from a 

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[David Kusumoto]

How do you think any third party might adjudicate this situation
David??


do you think Heritage's offer to make a charitable donation to the
charity of Geraldine's choice actually might be fair in light of all
these circumstances and do you feel it is right for Geraldine to
repeatedly and purposefully libel Heritage on this forum without
repercussions?



Rich - 

* I don't 
need to "guess" how a third party might "adjudicate" this.  To do so in 
Grey's direction would be prejudicial because he is a friend, therefore,
 my views cannot be realistically nor legally be accepted as "objective" 
nor "impartial."  My opinion does not matter.  But since you asked, I think 
Geraldine's chances would improve if she can prove 
class-action negligence on behalf of more consignors like herself.  This
 is the method, coincidentally, that a person is also more likely to 
have success garnering media coverage - which I maintain is way more damaging 
to a company's long-term reputation and ability to retain market share - than a 
lawsuit involving monetary damages.  If she took this to the media with others 
in tow, she could have fun with it even if she loses.

  

* Do
 I think Heritage's offer is fair?  It depends if it were you, not 
Geraldine, faced with this offer - and if you yourself thought it was 
fair.  It's not for anyone to judge what's fair to you.  Your 
next-door-neighbor who's not in the hobby might ask, however, why would an 
offer be extended in the absence of an infraction?  We know the tactical 
reasons why legal settlements are reached - but such reasons remain fuzzy to 
the outside world.

  

* Do
 I think it is right for Geraldine to "repeatedly and purposely libel" 
Heritage without repercussions?  These are YOUR words and YOUR opinion that she 
has committed libel - without you yourself physically being in Dallas nor at 
the location of Geraldine's home where the aforementioned dispute began.  Your 
litmus test for libel is different from mine.  Grey is arguably a "public 
figure" who is 
published routinely in articles circulated in the hobby.  Therefore, a 
libel judgement (written) vs. a slander judgment (spoken) against a 
"public figure" - requires, 1) truth as determined by a third party, and
 2) malicious execution with intent to harm from a person who DOES 
NOT view himself/herself, a) as being aggrieved in some way, nor, b) as 
suffering a material loss.  To prove malice in a libel case involving a public 
figure requires doing harm just for the sake of doing harm - with NO other 
reason such as seeking a material remedy.  Internet "extortion" is just as hard 
to prove as libel involving a public figure.  This "opinion" comes from a 
person (me) - who has been
 threatened with libel and slander lawsuits more than 30 times during my 
news career - and who has never been successfully taken to court nor bled to 
death in legal fees.  You've seen the stuff I write.  I sometimes take things 
pretty far before I stop short to prevent getting hung by my own leash.

  

* As
 to repercussions - the repercussions will be evident if Heritage 
chooses to file a counter-claim against Geraldine for libel on a 
published public forum.  Everyone is responsible for his or her own words, as
 is stated on the disclaimer at the bottom of every PUBLIC MoPo post.  If her 
attorneys believe she is writing libelous material, she might stop.  Because 
she hasn't, I gather she's been told "it's OK."

  

* As
 to how this has unfolded at MoPo - it is my personal view that 
Geraldine should just post and people who are truly Heritage's friends 
should shut up.  If you're not Heritage's friend - or if you don't know its 
people in person - post away.  There are tactical reasons why Heritage hasn't 
posted much about this at MoPo.  I've personally talked to Heritage about this. 
 Quite candidly, public
rebuttals from third parties to Geraldine's posts aren't doing the people in 
Dallas any favors.  Most posts are just character testimonials and/or 
third-party opinions about 
Geraldine's actions vs. Heritage's.  Note that I have NOT publicly commented
on Heritage's behalf - point-by-point to Geraldine's charges as a few people, 
in my view, so ridiculously have.  You may talk about this publicly all you 
want, but you should carefully weigh its impact on your own reputation as 
dealers (as it appears it is mostly dealers rushing to Heritage's defense) - as 
well as its impact on the squabbling parties involved.  

* In David vs. Goliath battles, I never dismiss the possibility that the little 
guy, despite everything - may still win.  In the "disproportional" court of 
opinion at MoPo - it appears Geraldine is wrong and Heritage is right.  But in 
the court of "public" opinion OUTSIDE of MoPo, I wouldn't be surprised if 
consumers would FEEL THE OPPOSITE, regardless of the facts.  At the end of the 
day, favorable testimonials from dealers about other dealers - DON'T MATTER TO 
CONSUMERS - as much as favorabl

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Bruce Hershenson]

I was very impressed that Brek joined this fray, with nothing to gain
whatsoever, Obviously he was motivated to post because he saw a person who
has been repeated dumped on, solely for having alleged that they were
treated in a certain way, and since he believes he had the same experience
with the very same party, he felt compelled to write himself (and oddly, no
one has challenged *HIS *version of the facts or *HIS *competence).

Now, when this person is scorned yet again, David feels compelled to make a
stand as well!

I no longer think this resembles Mr, Smith Goes to Washington. It is far
more similar to a classic scene from another movie, seen here:

*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vjqfvZVReM* (please watch it through!)

Bruce

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:46 PM, David Kusumoto
wrote:

>  *How do you think any third party might adjudicate this situation David??
> do you think Heritage's offer to make a charitable donation to the charity
> of Geraldine's choice actually might be fair in light of all these
> circumstances and do you feel it is right for Geraldine to repeatedly and
> purposefully libel Heritage on this forum without repercussions?*
>
>
> *Rich -
>
> * I don't need to "guess" how a third party might "adjudicate" this.  To
> do so in Grey's direction would be prejudicial because he is a friend,
> therefore, my views cannot be realistically nor legally be accepted as
> "objective" nor "impartial."  My opinion does not matter.  But since you
> asked, I think Geraldine's chances would improve if she can prove
> class-action negligence on behalf of more consignors like herself.  This is
> the method, coincidentally, that a person is also more likely to have
> success garnering media coverage - which I maintain is way more damaging to
> a company's long-term reputation and ability to retain market share - than
> a lawsuit involving monetary damages.  If she took this to the media with
> others in tow, she could have fun with it even if she loses.
>
> * Do I think Heritage's offer is fair?  It depends if it were you, not
> Geraldine, faced with this offer - and if you yourself thought it was
> fair.  It's not for anyone to judge what's fair to you.  Your
> next-door-neighbor who's not in the hobby might ask, however, why would an
> offer be extended in the absence of an infraction?  We know the tactical
> reasons why legal settlements are reached - but such reasons remain fuzzy
> to the outside world.
>
> * Do I think it is right for Geraldine to "repeatedly and purposely
> libel" Heritage without repercussions?  These are YOUR words and YOUR
> opinion that she has committed libel - without you yourself physically
> being in Dallas nor at the location of Geraldine's home where the
> aforementioned dispute began.  Your litmus test for libel is different from
> mine.  Grey is arguably a "public figure" who is published routinely in
> articles circulated in the hobby.  Therefore, a libel judgement (written)
> vs. a slander judgment (spoken) against a "public figure" - requires, 1)
> truth as determined by a third party, and 2) malicious execution with
> intent to harm from a person who DOES NOT view himself/herself, a) as being
> aggrieved in some way, nor, b) as suffering a material loss.  To prove
> malice in a libel case involving a public figure requires doing harm just
> for the sake of doing harm - with NO other reason such as seeking a
> material remedy.  Internet "extortion" is just as hard to prove as libel
> involving a public figure.  This "opinion" comes from a person (me) - who
> has been threatened with libel and slander lawsuits more than 30 times
> during my news career - and who has never been successfully taken to court
> nor bled to death in legal fees.  You've seen the stuff I write.  I
> sometimes take things pretty far before I stop short to prevent getting
> hung by my own leash.
>
> * As to repercussions - the repercussions will be evident if Heritage
> chooses to file a counter-claim against Geraldine for libel on a published
> public forum.  Everyone is responsible for his or her own words, as is
> stated on the disclaimer at the bottom of every PUBLIC MoPo post.  If her
> attorneys believe she is writing libelous material, she might stop.
> Because she hasn't, I gather she's been told "it's OK."
>
> * **As to how this has unfolded at MoPo - it is my personal view that
> Geraldine should just post and people who are truly Heritage's friends
> should shut up.  If you're not Heritage's friend - or if you don't know its
> people in person - post away.  There are tactical reasons why Heritage
> hasn't posted much about this at MoPo.  I've personally talked to Heritage
> about this.  Quite candidly, public rebuttals from third parties to
> Geraldine's posts aren't doing the people in Dallas any favors.  Most posts
> are just character testimonials and/or third-party opinions about
> Geraldine's actions vs. Heritage's.  Note that I have NOT publicly
> commented on Heritage's behalf

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[David Kusumoto]

That's a 
pretty funny video, Bruce.  Nelson Eddy as an historical Andy Hardy rallying 
people to a cause that at first, no one wants to join.  Almost like "High Noon" 
but without the same results.  (Too bad Gary Cooper couldn't sing.)  Thanks for 
posting!  I try to be fair but 
Rich publicly called me out by name on MoPo (which is pretty rare) - so I 
decided
 for a moment whether to let my older post stand - or to respond 
directly to his challenge about "fairness" and issues relating to 
"libel," the latter I know a whole lot about from personal experience.  
As someone else pointed out to me privately, "...you're right, people 
just pile on without knowing particularly what they are really talking 
about.  Because these same people can only get their 'facts' from what 
is posted here."  That's a perfect reflection of how I feel about this whole 
squabble. -d.

Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:12:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
From: brucehershen...@gmail.com
To: davidmkusum...@hotmail.com
CC: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu

I
 was very impressed that Brek joined this fray, with nothing to gain 
whatsoever, Obviously he was motivated to post because he saw a person 
who has been repeated dumped on, solely for having alleged that they 
were treated in a certain way, and since he believes he had the same 
experience with the very same party, he felt compelled to write himself 
(and oddly, no one has challenged HIS version of the facts or HIS competence).


Now, when this person is scorned yet again, David feels compelled to make a 
stand as well!

I
 no longer think this resembles Mr, Smith Goes to Washington. It is far 
more similar to a classic scene from another movie, seen here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vjqfvZVReM (please watch it through!)

Bruce

Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:46:37 -0700
From: davidmkusum...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU








How do you think any third party might adjudicate this situation
David??


do you think Heritage's offer to make a charitable donation to the
charity of Geraldine's choice actually might be fair in light of all
these circumstances and do you feel it is right for Geraldine to
repeatedly and purposefully libel Heritage on this forum without
repercussions?



Rich - 

* I don't 
need to "guess" how a third party might "adjudicate" this.  To do so in 
Grey's direction would be prejudicial because he is a friend, therefore,
 my views cannot be realistically nor legally be accepted as "objective" 
nor "impartial."  My opinion does not matter.  But since you asked, I think 
Geraldine's chances would improve if she can prove 
class-action negligence on behalf of more consignors like herself.  This
 is the method, coincidentally, that a person is also more likely to 
have success garnering media coverage - which I maintain is way more damaging 
to a company's long-term reputation and ability to retain market share - than a 
lawsuit involving monetary damages.  If she took this to the media with others 
in tow, she could have fun with it even if she loses.

  

* Do
 I think Heritage's offer is fair?  It depends if it were you, not 
Geraldine, faced with this offer - and if you yourself thought it was 
fair.  It's not for anyone to judge what's fair to you.  Your 
next-door-neighbor who's not in the hobby might ask, however, why would an 
offer be extended in the absence of an infraction?  We know the tactical 
reasons why legal settlements are reached - but such reasons remain fuzzy to 
the outside world.

  

* Do
 I think it is right for Geraldine to "repeatedly and purposely libel" 
Heritage without repercussions?  These are YOUR words and YOUR opinion that she 
has committed libel - without you yourself physically being in Dallas nor at 
the location of Geraldine's home where the aforementioned dispute began.  Your 
litmus test for libel is different from mine.  Grey is arguably a "public 
figure" who is 
published routinely in articles circulated in the hobby.  Therefore, a 
libel judgement (written) vs. a slander judgment (spoken) against a 
"public figure" - requires, 1) truth as determined by a third party, and
 2) malicious execution with intent to harm from a person who DOES 
NOT view himself/herself, a) as being aggrieved in some way, nor, b) as 
suffering a material loss.  To prove malice in a libel case involving a public 
figure requires doing harm just for the sake of doing harm - with NO other 
reason such as seeking a material remedy.  Internet "extortion" is just as hard 
to prove as libel involving a public figure.  This "opinion" comes from a 
person (me) - who has been
 threatened with libel and slander lawsuits more than 30 times during my 
news career - and who has never been successfully taken to court nor bled to 
death in legal fees.  You've seen the stuff I write.  I sometimes take things 
pretty far before I stop short to prevent getting hung by my own

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Richard Halegua Comic Art]

David

I was after all responding to your email specifically. whose name did 
you think I would use?? (said with a humorous twist as you know you are my pal)


I only have a minute as I have auctions still listing.. but 
concerning this particular quote:
I think Geraldine's chances would improve if she can prove 
class-action negligence on behalf of more consignors like herself


I agree with you.. but that's because based on everything she's said 
about this issue to date convinces me that she has absolutely no 
chance of getting a beneficial adjudication otherwise, be it in front 
of a judge or an arbitrator. so even a 1% chance of winning in a 
class is better than no chance of winning otherwise.


she may also have damaged her case due to the way she posted here 
about this issue.. Not about posting itself, but the manner in which 
she has posted
for instanc e, I believe she has only posted this issue each time 
Rudy has posted about something else. as if she was stalking Rudy so 
she could post.
then it is pretty obvious that her intent is to disparage, which any 
court or arbitrator frowns upon


It's easy to understand she feels she has been screwed, however there 
is no proof put forth, and that makes it awful hard to find for her.


you can't always win David and sometimes you do have to settle "for 
what you can get"


and Bruce.. why should you be surprised Brek chimed in? he had 
something pertinent to say.. But everyone needs to remember 
something.. this is a PUBLIC FORUM.. it invites comment. I wish more 
people would comment


At 07:35 PM 6/5/2012, David Kusumoto wrote:
That's a pretty funny video, Bruce.  Nelson Eddy as an historical 
Andy Hardy rallying people to a cause that at first, no one wants to 
join.  Almost like "High Noon" but without the same results.  (Too 
bad Gary Cooper couldn't sing.)  Thanks for posting!  I try to be 
fair but Rich publicly called me out by name on MoPo (which is 
pretty rare) - so I decided for a moment whether to let my older 
post stand - or to respond directly to his challenge about 
"fairness" and issues relating to "libel," the latter I know a whole 
lot about from personal experience.  As someone else pointed out to 
me privately, "...you're right, people just pile on without knowing 
particularly what they are really talking about.  Because these same 
people can only get their 'facts' from what is posted here."  That's 
a perfect reflection of how I feel about this whole squabble. -d.



--
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:12:43 -0500
Subject: Re: Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
From: brucehershen...@gmail.com
To: davidmkusum...@hotmail.com
CC: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu

I was very impressed that Brek joined this fray, with nothing to 
gain whatsoever, Obviously he was motivated to post because he saw a 
person who has been repeated dumped on, solely for having alleged 
that they were treated in a certain way, and since he believes he 
had the same experience with the very same party, he felt compelled 
to write himself (and oddly, no one has challenged HIS version of 
the facts or HIS competence).


Now, when this person is scorned yet again, David feels compelled to 
make a stand as well!


I no longer think this resembles Mr, Smith Goes to Washington. It is 
far more similar to a classic scene from another movie, seen here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vjqfvZVReM 
(please watch it through!)


Bruce


--
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:46:37 -0700
From: davidmkusum...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU

How do you think any third party might adjudicate this situation David??
do you think Heritage's offer to make a charitable donation to the 
charity of Geraldine's choice actually might be fair in light of all 
these circumstances and do you feel it is right for Geraldine to 
repeatedly and purposefully libel Heritage on this forum without repercussions?



Rich -

* I don't need to "guess" how a third party might "adjudicate" 
this.  To do so in Grey's direction would be prejudicial because he 
is a friend, therefore, my views cannot be realistically nor legally 
be accepted as "objective" nor "impartial."  My opinion does not 
matter.  But since you asked, I think Geraldine's chances would 
improve if she can prove class-action negligence on behalf of more 
consignors like herself.  This is the method, coincidentally, that a 
person is also more likely to have success garnering media coverage 
- which I maintain is way more damaging to a company's long-term 
reputation and ability to retain market share - than a lawsuit 
involving monetary damages.  If she took this to the media with 
others in tow, she could have fun with it even if she loses.


* Do I think Heritage's offer is fair?  It depends if it were you, 
not Geraldine, faced with this offer - and if you yourself thought 
it was fair.  It's not for anyone to judge what

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Geraldine Kudaka]

Hear, hear I agree totally.

It's risking consigning to anyone.

I also think if you're going to go through all the trouble of setting up a 
photo shooting situation for posters, why not list them on ebay yourself?

At the same time we had sent posters to Heritage, we were selling Star Wars 
posters and memorabilia on ebay and got better prices than at Heritage's 
signature auction.




 From: Dale Dilts 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
 

I must be missing exactly how taking an inventory before sending would actually 
help? 
 
I could write up a nice long list of stuff, only send half of it, and then 
claim they lost it, how much sense does that make and in court who exactly is 
going to win that battle.
 
Making a list and taking pictures might make you feel real safe, but sending no 
list at all covers you just the same. Yes it would allow you to reconcile your 
list against a sales list, but other than that, pretty worthless as there is no 
proof what actually ever enters the mail stream or once opened what is done 
with it. 
 
If you are going to consign anything, you simply take the risk of your property 
leaving your hands with potentially no return. Like it or not, trust is still a 
must in any business that is not done person to person.
 
 
 
 
 
From:MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Carlos Duenas
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:55 AM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
 
 
Hi all, 
 
I guess it would be sad to agree that "trust no one" is the best rule. I have 
send posters to Christies in London and took the time to make an inventory 
(because there were only a few items they wanted, they only took posters 
worth over US$250). Even sending the inventory which was very small they didn´t 
send the inventory of what they received and misplaced one of my posters which 
they found after I complained because they did not add it to their following 
auction. On the other hand, I have sent hundreds of posters and lobby cards 
to Bruce Hershenson, I asked if I needed  to send an inventory; they said no, I 
trusted them and so far they haven´t misplaced anything (and not making 
inventories has saved me many hours of work). To be frank I don´t have the 
memory to know if everything I had sent to them has been auction or is being 
held for a later auction, but I trust them and if there were item that were 
special (valuable) I would
 remember them the same way Geraldine remembers her good posters that are 
missing. 
 
Just to add more salt to this e-mail I would like to share an experience that I 
find funny: the same poster I sent to Christies in London, a 1964 NM My Fair 
Lady(which sold for about US$800), I offered to Christies in NY and they said 
they didn´t want it because of its low value, nevertheless, a few days later a 
man from that auction wrote to me saying that he would buy the poster from me 
if I wanted. I also offer that same poster to Heritage a few years ago and they 
said the poster wasn´t good enough for their auction. 
 
I very much appreciate Geraldine sharing with everyone what happened to her, it 
think is fantastic and cheap learning from others´ experiences.
 
Mainly for ethical reasons I think auctions should have standard procedure to 
treat all customers in the same careful and respectful manner no matter their 
age or origin or if they are dealers or collector but also for their 
reputation because there are groups of people like us (mopoers) that would 
share the good and the bad for the benefit of all. 
 
Best,
 
Carlos
  
From:"Walton, Jeffrey" 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
 
I concur wholeheartedly….you just can’t ship a bunch of posters and claim foul 
when no inventory on your part was done no matter if you trust that identity or 
not.  When shipping a bunch of poster I always make an inventory and send along 
a copy of the inventory as well.  So when Grey or Bruce compares the list and 
there is a discrepancy there is at least a record.  What would have happened if 
the parcel was lost in the mail, then try to stake a claim with the insurance?
 
The X-files said it best – ‘Trust no one.”
 
 
 
From:MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard 
Halegua Posters + Comic Art
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:31 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
 
Geraldine

reading your posts as a outsider makes me wonder about some of the things you 
mention in your emails.
Are you trying to get a resolution, or are you just trying to disparage Rudy 
Franchi and Heritage?
Also, do you or do you not think that your own actions are a partial 
contributor to your an

Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory

[Geraldine Kudaka]

Heritage has a pattern of offering to donate the value of contested good to 
charity.

It reduces a corporations tax by making a charitable contribution... assuming 
the contribution goes through.

Here are some links to show other instances where Heritage made offers... i.e.: 
"I spoke to Steve Ivy one of the owners of the company. Steve said that he 
would reduce the seller's fee on the consigned items as long as I did not bad 
mouth his company. I told him that my interest was simply to point out that one 
of his employees made a mistake and that his company should be held liable. 
Steve then reneged on his committment to reduce the seller's fee."

See for yourself.


http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=26&threadid=803513

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/heritage-auctions-arkansas-c310316.html

http://www.ripoffreport.com/liars/heritage-auction-gal/heritage-auction-galleries-m-bjc85.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/sports-cards-memorabilia/heritage-auction/heritage-auction-beware-of-th-e76fc.htm

http://www.bbb.org/dallas/business-reviews/auctioneers/heritage-auctions-in-dallas-tx-23003944/complaints




 From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art 
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, June 5, 2012 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rudy Franchi, Heritage, no Inventory
 

If you are a
scammer and the only beneficiary of your scam was the Red Cross, you are
less inclined to try the same thing again. 

very well put Phillip


ps: I do not believe that Geraldine is doing this. I believe she is angry
& lashing out at her "apparent" source of anger

pps: I also think that Geraldine isn't looking at the issue objectively..
i.e. - Geraldine is not accepting any responsibility on her own for
whatever mistakes she may have made in not preparing her own
inventory
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