Re: My only minor problem with 0.9.9...

2002-03-16 Thread Parish

michael lefevre wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sid Vicious wrote:
>> Tuukka Tolvanen wrote:
>>> Phil Edwards wrote:
>>> 
 ...is that the underlined bright blue sidebar bookmarks look like ass.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No blue glare, no underline, no ass, nay more.
>>> http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114142
>> 
>> Fixed, but when will we see it?
> 
> well if you get one of the nightlies (built from the developing code each
> day), you can see it fixed now..

They've got rid of the hyperlink style but in the History sidebar 
clicking on the arrow icons no longer works for expanding/collapsing; 
you have to click on the text.

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[a bit OT] Problems uploading files from browser

2002-03-16 Thread Parish

Slightly OT because it affects NS4 and IE too so I think it's an ISP 
problem, but hopefully someone will know the answer.

I cannot upload files to a server via forms on a webpage. For example, 
trying to post an attachment to a bug on Bugzilla and uploading a file 
to the W3C HTML Validator, http://validator.w3.org/file-upload.html

When I try to send Moz just flashes a message in the status bar 
"Connecting to" then, usually less than a second later, "Document Done".

NS4 is more helpful in that a pop-up appears:

"A network error occurred while Netscape
 was receiving data.
 (Network Error: Connection reset by peer)

  Try connecting again.

and IE says "Cannot find server or DNS Error"

If I re-connect using another ISP it always works so I figure it is a 
problem, but can anyone give me an idea of what could be causing this?

Thanks,

Regards,

Parish

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Re: mozilla 0.9.9 crashes

2002-03-16 Thread Parish

jukola wrote:
> Gervase Markham wrote:
>>> I'm though not willing to give away detailed information about my 
>>> present computer; type of processor, speed, the software I'm using, 
>>> what printer I have etc. and so on. This has nothing to do with the 
>>> behaviour of Mozilla during crashes. 
>> 
>> 
>> How do you know? :-) If this were the case, then the same crash would 
>> happen in the same circumstances on any machine, and we all know that's 
>> not the case.
>> 
>> "Oh No! The evil AOL/Time Warner conspiracy know I'm an Epson printer 
>> user! The printer police will be round next! Panic!"
>> 
>> Gerv
>> 
> 
> How come Mozilla is the only programme asking for this detailed 
> information? I have never been asked to send an error report while using 
> Netscape or Explorer.
> 

According to your UA string you are running XP. Do you know *exactly* 
what Windows is sending to M$ when it runs it's equivalent of Talkback 
after something has crashed? I guess though that you turn that off as 
well, but your statement was "How come Mozilla is the only programme"

> Don't tell me: NS is Mozilla, in a way, and the information collected 
> from the evaluation (evolution?) of Mozilla makes Netscape a solid browser.
> 



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Re: mozilla 0.9.9 crashes

2002-03-16 Thread Parish

jukola wrote:
> Parish wrote:
>> jukola wrote:
>> 
>>> Gervase Markham wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I'm though not willing to give away detailed information about my 
>>>>> present computer; type of processor, speed, the software I'm using, 
>>>>> what printer I have etc. and so on. This has nothing to do with the 
>>>>> behaviour of Mozilla during crashes. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How do you know? :-) If this were the case, then the same crash would 
>>>> happen in the same circumstances on any machine, and we all know 
>>>> that's not the case.
>>>>
>>>> "Oh No! The evil AOL/Time Warner conspiracy know I'm an Epson printer 
>>>> user! The printer police will be round next! Panic!"
>>>>
>>>> Gerv
>>>>
>>>
>>> How come Mozilla is the only programme asking for this detailed 
>>> information? I have never been asked to send an error report while 
>>> using Netscape or Explorer.
>>>
>> 
>> According to your UA string you are running XP. Do you know *exactly* 
>> what Windows is sending to M$ when it runs it's equivalent of Talkback 
>> after something has crashed? I guess though that you turn that off as 
>> well, but your statement was "How come Mozilla is the only programme"
> 
> We are discussing internet browsers, not an OS.

So there's a difference between a browser sending personal information 
back to it's HQ and an OS doing the same thing?

> You are right, it's off.

Thought so ;-)

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Mozilla displaying the MS KB search page

2002-03-16 Thread Parish

What do other people see at http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx in 
the Search (KB) box at the top left?

At the moment I just see the "Search now" link and the green button with 
a white arrow.

There are supposed to be several input boxes to define your search 
criteria. Sometimes I see them, and sometimes not. Looking at the page 
source the code is there.

Any reason why Mozilla would display this differently at different times?

It may be that it's only my home machine, which is running a CVS build, 
that has this problem and not my work machine which is running 0.9.9. 
Both W2K.

And before anyone makes the obvious statement that it's MS HTML - 
designed for IE, I know :-)

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Re: Emptying Folders

2002-03-17 Thread Parish

Graham wrote:
> I can't remember if this matter has been raised before, but I can't 
> find anything relating to it, so here goes.
> 
> When you create a folder in Moz (to filter your mail) there seems to be 
> no way of emptying just that folder, and you have to delete messages 
> one by one.
> 
> I receive about 200 mails a day and I have been testing Mozilla News 
> (with and without Enigmail) with this high level of traffic.  Most of 
> the other bugs I have come across are minor compared to this omission.
> 
> Is there any chance this could be incororated into the next build?

Just ensure that the summary pane has focus, then Ctrl-A, DEL (or 
Edit->Select All, right-click, Delete Message).

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Re: Mozilla displaying the MS KB search page

2002-03-17 Thread Parish

dman84 wrote:
> Garth Almgren wrote:
>> Parish wrote:
>> 
>>> What do other people see at http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx 
>>> in the Search (KB) box at the top left?
>>>
>>> At the moment I just see the "Search now" link and the green button 
>>> with a white arrow.
>>>
>> 
>> 
>>> It may be that it's only my home machine, which is running a CVS 
>>> build, that has this problem and not my work machine which is running 
>>> 0.9.9. Both W2K.
>>>
>> 
>> I noticed this last night when I went looking for a solution to my WinXP 
>> networking problem. Build 2002031503 WinXP currently, and it isn't 
>> working today either.
>> 
>> It would seem that somebody needs to evangelize (sp?) Microsoft. "Try 
>> and make your webpages more friendly for your competition..." LOL!
>> 
> 
> they probably made them proprietary IE language stuff.. cause it doesn't 
> work here either.. this is something I see coming.. MS is doing the 
> anti-competitive here with their web-pages.
> 

But it works sometimes. I've noticed something though; here at home, 
even though I use the URL http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx it 
takes me the the *UK* MS website, even though I've removed all MS 
cookies. How does it do this (know that I'm in the UK)? From my ISP I guess.

I wonder if, at work, it takes me the the main (US) website instead, and 
the code there is different?

> -dman84
> 

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Solved: Re: Mozilla displaying the MS KB search page

2002-03-17 Thread Parish

dman84 wrote:
 > they probably made them proprietary IE language stuff.. cause it doesn't
 > work here either.. this is something I see coming.. MS is doing the
 > anti-competitive here with their web-pages.
 >

I've solved it! It's the UA string. At home, my UA string is

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.9+) Gecko/20020221

but at work it's

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010110
Netscape6/6.5

I added the user_pref() for the UA string override on my home machine
and now the page is displayed correctly.

I checked the source and MS serves different pages for Moz and IE; IE's
is full of Javascript and for Moz you get

 -dman84
 >



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BUG?? [Re: Solved: Re: Mozilla displaying the MS KB search page]

2002-03-17 Thread Parish

Morten Nilsen wrote:
> Parish wrote:
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> 
> when you change your antispam scheme, you should update your .sig ;)
> 

Ah, I think you may have found a bug in Moz.

Look at other posts of mine and you'll see that the From: line is

Parish 

This post was different (I hadn't spotted this until you pointed it out) 
in that, while composing the message I needed to restart Moz to double 
check my facts, so did File->Send Later, restarted Moz, then Edit 
Message As New from the Unsent Messages folder. This, it seems has 
changed the From: line.

Why? Because when sending e-mails my ISP doesn't allow 
; it bounces messages saying the From: is not a 
valid Internet address (their way of preventing their customers sending 
spam I guess) so I use "NOSPAM" for e-mails. Posting to news.mozilla.org 
allows changing ``@'' to ``_AT_'', even though the messages go out 
through the same SMTP server.

The cause is possibly (probably?) that I have changed the settings for 
news.mozilla.org to use the Sent and Unsent Message folders under my POP 
server instead of in Local Folders.

Is this a bug, or by design? Anyone know?

Thanks for pointing this out Morten.

Regards,

Parish.

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Re: BUG?? [Re: Solved: Re: Mozilla displaying the MS KB search page]

2002-03-17 Thread Parish

Christian Biesinger wrote:
> Parish wrote:
>> Posting to news.mozilla.org 
>> allows changing ``@'' to ``_AT_'', even though the messages go out 
>> through the same SMTP server.
> 
> No, posting to news.mozilla.org does not use any SMTP server at all, but 
> the NTTP server news.mozilla.org.
> 

So in the Mail & Newsgroup Account Settings, Advanced button on the 
first screen, "Always use default server" means news.mozilla.org (in 
this case) then?

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Re: Solved: Re: Mozilla displaying the MS KB search page

2002-03-18 Thread Parish

Neil wrote:
> Parish wrote:
> 
>> I've solved it! It's the UA string. At home, my UA string is
>>
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.9+) Gecko/20020221
>>
>> but at work it's
>>
>> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010110 
>> Netscape6/6.5
>>
>> I added the user_pref() for the UA string override on my home machine 
>> and now the page is displayed correctly.
> 
> It's easier than that, add these prefs, then the rest of your UA string 
> will still update:
> 
> user_pref("general.useragent.vendor", "Netscape6");
> user_pref("general.useragent.vendorSub", "6.5");
> 

Thanks. That's even better. I had thought about the problem of 
hardcoding the entire string and checked about:config to see if there 
were sub-sections to the string but couldn't see anything obvious. Just 
checked again and these 2 options don't show up there.

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Re: Mozilla is the best

2002-03-18 Thread Parish

Bamm Gabriana wrote:
> I only have 32 megs, so Moz is quite slow
> but IE/OE is fast because they have a smaller memory requirement.
> 

Because a large chunk of them is already loaded with the OS

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Re: The Standard

2002-03-18 Thread Parish

Netscape Basher wrote:
> The good thing about Explorer is that it does a great job in
 > displaying  pages that are w3c compliant.
> 

Except the CSS test page at http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/

Which is rather ironic because MS invented CSS *and* claim IE to be "the 
most W3C-standards-compliant browser in the world".

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Re: The Standard

2002-03-18 Thread Parish

Chris Hoess wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Netscape Basher wrote:
>> 
>> The w3c was formed out of jealousy of Microsoft's success. It is based 
>> on hatred of MS
>> 
> 
> I salute your pioneering work in advancing the field of ignorance, 
> grasshopper.  I look forward to hearing more of your wonderful tidbits of 
> "history", perhaps one in which Microsoft invents HTTP, but the 
> Content-Type header is added by evil gnomes controlled by Richard M. 
> Stallman, who does not understand the beauty of file extensions.
> 

You are forgetting that Al Gore invented the Internet.

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Re: Let's Vote! :)

2002-03-18 Thread Parish

Bamm Gabriana wrote:
> Would you rather have:
> 
> 1) A JTK
> 2) A Bundy
> 3) A Lancer
> 
> Send in your votes now!
> 
> My vote: I'd rather have a Bundy. Bundies make a lot of sense
> if only they were more informed. Lancers are deluded souls.
> 

ROFLMAO

> `Bamm.
> 
> Ang taong bumoto
> sa baliw
> Ay baliw rin.
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Re: Key Sequence For Switching/Cycling Tabs?

2002-03-18 Thread Parish

Peter Lakanen wrote:
> Is there a key sequence (F6, Ctrl+Shift+Alt+Whatever, etc) to cycle 
> through your open tabs?
> 

Ctrl-PgUp/Ctrl-PgDn

> Thanks!
> 
> -peter
> 



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Re: The Standard

2002-03-18 Thread Parish

Chris Hoess wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian Heinrich wrote:
>> Parish wrote:
>>> 
>>> Which is rather ironic because MS invented CSS *and* claim IE to be "the 
>>> most W3C-standards-compliant browser in the world".
>>> 
>> 
>> I might be woefully *under*informed, but I've always come across the 
>> invention of CSS in conjunction with the name Håkon Lie.
> 
> What Microsoft did do is take out a patent on stylesheets in general.  The 
> status of it is (IMO) dubious, given the existence of prior art, but it 
> has not yet been overturned.  The usual intellectual property bogosity.
> 

Oops! I should have known better than to assume patented == invented, 
especially where some companies are concerned ;-)


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Re: Mozilla is the best

2002-03-18 Thread Parish

Bamm Gabriana wrote:
>> Because a large chunk of them is already loaded with the OS
> 
> Hmm.. how do I explain this. I have Quick Launch on. Thus Moz
> and IE are both already preloaded in memory.
> 
> Yet OE still performs noticeably faster on my computer than
> Moz Mail.
> 

Because, when you are running Moz, you still have some (most) of IE 
loaded as well (because it's in the OS). When you run IE you don't have 
the overhead of Moz as well. OK, that's a rather simplistic explanation, 
but you get the idea?

> I have a Pentium 166 with 32 megs of RAM. No immediate plans
> to upgrade hardware due to lack of cash. :)
> 
> 
> 



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Re: The Standard

2002-03-19 Thread Parish

Gervase Markham wrote:
> blackbox wrote:
>> Are you a human ...gerv?
> 
> Yes - and a Christian. God is the ultimate hacker - just look at the 
> code reuse in DNA.

XUL, XML, HTML, SGML, now DNA, when's it going to stop?

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Re: Let's Vote! :)

2002-03-19 Thread Parish

Jonas Jørgensen wrote:
> Parish wrote:
> 
>>> Send in your votes now!
>>> 
>>> My vote: I'd rather have a Bundy. Bundies make a lot of sense
>>> if only they were more informed. Lancers are deluded souls.
>>> 
>> 
>> ROFLMAO
> 
> Hey, you forgot to vote! ;-)
> 

Oh, yeah, err, OK, Bundy

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Re: Identify mozilla as IE?

2002-03-19 Thread Parish

Christian Biesinger wrote:
> Robert McDonald wrote:
>> Sorry if this is a FAQ
> 
> It definitely is.
> 
>> -- I did a google search but didn't turn anything 
>> up.
> 
> Hm...
> 
>> Is there a way (prefs.js?) to get mozilla to identify itself as IE?
> 
> http://uabar.mozdev.org
> 

Alternatively, add:

user_pref("general.useragent.vendor", "Netscape6");
user_pref("general.useragent.vendorSub", "6.5");

to user.js. You'll have to change the strings totoIno, I 
can't bring myself to type it ;-)

BTW, If you go ahead and do this you should be cast into the fires of 
Hell for all eternity ;-)

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Re: Gray Modern is so pretty! :)

2002-03-19 Thread Parish

Pratik wrote:
> On 03/19/2002 05:14 AM, Holger Metzger wrote:
>> Bamm Gabriana wrote:
>> 
>>>I just got Gray Modern. I love it! :)
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> Cool! Is Gray Modern back? Finally. :-)
> 
> Yup. Its on 
> http://www.xulplanet.com/downloads/view.cgi?category=skins&view=all
> 

But where is Skypilot? I *want* Skypilot! Kang, where are you?

> Pratik.
> 



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Re: Gray Modern is so pretty! :)

2002-03-19 Thread Parish

Parish wrote:
> Pratik wrote:
>> On 03/19/2002 03:28 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote:
>> 
>>>>Same happens for me on trunk builds. It's probably really 
>>>>0.9.9-*release*-only.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> mozillazine.org (Build Comments, March 18th) says:
>>> 
>>> "themeversion is updated so 0.9.9 and earlier themes will not work 
>>> without updates to the theme (129140)"
>>> 
>>> I'd very much like to see updates to Gray Modern and Pinball as I only 
>>> use nighlies, not releases.
>> 
>> Here's a hack to get them to work. Close Mozilla, Open up 
>> /chrome/chrome.rdf. Change lines like the following
>> 
>> c:skinVersion="0.9.4"
>> 
>> to
>> 
>> c:skinVersion="1.0"
>> 
>> That makes the theme work with the nightlies (might break it for 0.9.9 
>> maybe). Its not perfect but its decent enough.
>> 
> 
> Don't you need to edit the skinversion in the *theme*, not chrome.rdf? 
> I'm using a CVS build and all instances of c:skinVersion are set to 1.0, 
> but Gray Modern won't load.
> 

Forget it. The link I followed was to the 0.9.9 skins and I missed the 
link on that page to the 1.0 skins (scrolled down to look at the pretty 
pictures too quickly).

Also, reading back through this thread it seems your advice was to 
someone who wanted to run this on an older version of Moz, whereas 
someone else was trying to run it on a CVS build like me. Confusing 
after a long day.


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Re: Gray Modern is so pretty! :)

2002-03-19 Thread Parish

Pratik wrote:
> On 03/19/2002 03:28 AM, Jens Hatlak wrote:
> 
>>>Same happens for me on trunk builds. It's probably really 
>>>0.9.9-*release*-only.
>> 
>> 
>> mozillazine.org (Build Comments, March 18th) says:
>> 
>> "themeversion is updated so 0.9.9 and earlier themes will not work 
>> without updates to the theme (129140)"
>> 
>> I'd very much like to see updates to Gray Modern and Pinball as I only 
>> use nighlies, not releases.
> 
> Here's a hack to get them to work. Close Mozilla, Open up 
> /chrome/chrome.rdf. Change lines like the following
> 
> c:skinVersion="0.9.4"
> 
> to
> 
> c:skinVersion="1.0"
> 
> That makes the theme work with the nightlies (might break it for 0.9.9 
> maybe). Its not perfect but its decent enough.
> 

Don't you need to edit the skinversion in the *theme*, not chrome.rdf? 
I'm using a CVS build and all instances of c:skinVersion are set to 1.0, 
but Gray Modern won't load.

BTW, how do you *download* a skin (presunably an XPI file) from 
XULPlanet rather than install it on line? The "Install Now" link is to a 
CGI script.

> 
> Pratik.
> 
> 



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Re: Identify mozilla as IE?

2002-03-19 Thread Parish

Christian Biesinger wrote:
> Parish wrote:
>> Alternatively, add:
>> 
>> user_pref("general.useragent.vendor", "Netscape6");
>> user_pref("general.useragent.vendorSub", "6.5");
>> 
>> to user.js. You'll have to change the strings totoIno, I 
>> can't bring myself to type it ;-)
> 
> That just adds a string to the end of the user-agent, no?
> 

That's what is needed isn't it? I was informed of those prefs when I 
needed to get the MS KB search page to recognize Moz as Netscape 6 (see 
the recent thread "Mozilla displaying the MS KB search page" in 
n.p.m.browser).

So replacing "Netscape6" with "MSIE5.5" or whatever is all that is 
needed, isn't it?

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Re: Scroll wheel works!

2002-03-23 Thread Parish

Garth Almgren wrote:
> I was just browsing Bugzilla when I noticed one of my pet peeve bugs 

Annoys the hell out of me too!

> (which I can't find the number for anymore) has disappeared in the build 
> I'm using (2002032203 Win32)! Yay!
> 
> It was the bug where the first scrolling listbox on a page (typically 
> the CC list on Bugzilla) would steal the scrollwheel focus and wouldn't 
> relinquish until that list was off the page.
> 

I've just done a CVS build (W2K) and I still have the problem ;-(

> To whoever managed to fix that one - THANKS! I really appreciate it!
> 

Anyone know the bug number?

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Re: tabbed browser ideas

2002-03-23 Thread Parish

grayrest wrote:
> Luke wrote:
>> I don't know what this would take programming-wise, but I'd expect it to 
>> be targetted Future...
>> 
> 
> I like this feature. Go ahead and file the bug, it shouldn't be 
> difficult, you just trigger on the same event as the "annoying rotating 
> arrow":

What is that you find so annoying about the spinning arrow?

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Re: Ted Bundy posts again.

2002-03-23 Thread Parish

Bundy wrote:
> Senator Dan Burton authored the following:
>> Ted Bundy wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>They finally fixed one of my bugs I was following. I checked the code to
>>>make sure that Drudge didn't change, they didn't. Fixed bug.
>>>Nice going for a change.
>>>Netscape still sucks.
>> 
>> 
>> Fuck you, asshole.
>> 
> 
> No thanks, I'm married and straight. Please take your sexual fantasies 
> to the correct newsgroup in the future
> 

ROFL

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Re: tabbed browser ideas

2002-03-24 Thread Parish

Bamm Gabriana wrote:
>> What is that you find so annoying about the spinning arrow?
> 
> Personally, I find it annoying to read while there is motion closeby.

Ah right. I can relate to that. Although the spining arrow doesn't 
bother me I can't use 60Hz monitors as they appear to be flashing like a 
strobe light to me, although many co-workers sit in front of them all day.

> But that may just be me. I also get annoyed by Windows flashing
> the taskbar icon when an IE page has fully loaded so I click on
> it and go back to the window I was reading.
> 
> If the rotating arrow is meant to differentiate between loading
> and done, I guess the bold title can do that. Although I just
> realized Garth's idea was not what I thought it was. :(
> 

Yes, that would be just as good. As long as there is /some/ visual feedback.

> Bamm
> 
> 
> 



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Re: Warum hat Mozilla 0.9.9 so viele neue Bugs? Ein Sabotuer?

2002-03-24 Thread Parish

Sören Kuklau wrote:
> On 3/24/2002 4:47 PM, Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. apparently wrote exactly
> the following:
>> American English, is difficult to learn as well. I know I magle it all
>> the time.
> 
> Trust me, American English is one of the easiest (if not *the* easiest) 
> languages world-wide.
> 

Why *American* English? Why not just *English*

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(PROPOSAL]: n.p.m.chat or n.p.m.social

2002-03-24 Thread Parish

OK, fellow Mozillians, what would it take to start a general purpose NG 
where nothing (legal) is OT?

There is currently a thread, "Warum hat Mozilla 0.9.9 so viele neue 
Bugs? Ein Sabotuer" running in n.p.m.general which has become a thread 
about the German language. This is totally OT for any Moz NG but is 
(IMHO) a very interesting thread anyway.

Sooner or later, in threads such as this, someone will cry, "OT", but 
there is nowhere to take it where it is On-topic.

The Internet is an international community, especially in the Open 
Source world, and being able to have interesting, informed, intellectual 
discussions with people from other countries, cultures, and with 
different mother-tongues, is fascinating, educational, and generally 
broadens ones horizons.

I subscribe to several FreeBSD mailing lists one of which is .chat. Over 
the years there have been many threads there which have been totally OT 
re FreeBSD but were extremely interesting nonetheless; wine, 
language/grammar, geography[1], the price of petrol (US:gas), US gun law 
(long threads those :-)).

For the most part those who frequent the n.p.m.* NGs are sensible, 
intelligent people with whom one can have an informed discussion so I 
believe we should have a NG where "anything (legal) goes"

Comments? Observations? Counter-proposals?

Flames > /dev/null

Regards,

Parish

[1] As one Australian poster said in one thread, "I have studied a map 
of Australia and can safely state that Windows N.T. does not exist" :-)

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Re: (PROPOSAL]: n.p.m.chat or n.p.m.social

2002-03-24 Thread Parish

Sören Kuklau wrote:
> On 3/24/2002 6:27 PM, Parish apparently wrote exactly the following:
>> OK, fellow Mozillians, what would it take to start a general purpose NG 
>> where nothing (legal) is OT?
> 
> *cough* bug 127495 <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127495> 
> *cough*
> 

Oh, right. I didn't realize that we used bugzilla for this. I'll get 
over there straight away, add my ¤0.02, and cast my vote.

Thanks for the pointer.

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Re: Warum hat Mozilla 0.9.9 so viele neue Bugs? Ein Sabotuer?

2002-03-24 Thread Parish

Ben Bucksch wrote:
> Since Patrik said he likes to learn some different POVs:
> 

ITYM Parish

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Re: Have you seen a whole dinosaur drown?

2002-03-24 Thread Parish

BLACKBOX wrote:
> Have you seen a whole dinosaur drown?
> 

I can't say that I have. Have you?

> blackbox
> 

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Re: Why can�t I put in quotes?

2002-03-24 Thread Parish

Chris Hoess wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
> hugo vanwoerkom wrote:
>> In mozilla (since 0.9.6) I am unable to use the quote symbol, it
>> always comes out a question mark. In the subject of this post I hit
>> the single quote and somebody made that � When I hit the key it
>> was a question mark. Yet in the same X console this works with 4.79.
>> Where do I look to fix this?
> 
> I have no idea what that's supposed to represent.  All HTML 4 numeric
> character references (things that begin with "&#" and end with ";") refer 
> to Unicode, so the single closing quote/apostrophe is "’".  This 
> reference has no meaning outside of an HTML/XML context (i.e., in 
> text/plain documents).
> 

I think this is something to do with pages encoded using Windows-1252. 
With character coding set to ISO-8859-1 or -15 I frequently see 
IE-specific pages with a ? where there should be an apostrophe 
(single-quote). It is, AFAIK, what Windows calls "smart quotes", or 
rather a *mis* use of these (since they are being used as quotes.

I also see an apostrophe as Z-umlaut in messages in these NGs posted by 
some Germans

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Re: Warum hat Mozilla 0.9.9 so viele neue Bugs? Ein Sabotuer?

2002-03-24 Thread Parish

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote:
> 
> Parish wrote:
> 
> ---snip---
> 
>> Why *American* English? Why not just *English*
>> 
> 
> British English (or the "Kings" English) is different. Though we have

"Queens", at the moment :-). Now there's a word with a whole different 
connotation in the US.

> some common word and terms in common. There are many differences.
> American English is made up words from British English, French, German
> and other Languages. We even use some old world Latin terms as well.
> 

Well of course English is a pot-pourri anyway. Look at the occupiers of 
the British Isles over the millennia; Norse, Viking, Angles, Saxes, 
Normans, Britons all of whom have contributed to the English language.

> I'll give an example of a difference between US and British English :
> 
> First the Description of the item:
> 
> area of a car you open to store such items as suitcases, Grocries,
> Tools, etc.
> 
> US English  = Trunk
> 
> British English = Boot
> 
> In the US Boot also means: 
> 
> an item worn on the foot similar to a shoe (noun)
> 

and in Britain

> To get rid of ... as in the bad employee was given the boot...  (verb)
> 

and in Britain

> Trunk in US english Besides the meaning previously given Is:
> 
> a special Box used to store items such as clothes, blankets, Quilts. etc.
> 

and in Britain

> The nose or proboscis appendage of an Elephant.
> 

and in Britain

> If I were to go to Britain to live I would have to start in the first
> grade just to relearn the language.
> 

No you wouldn't, you'd just have to learn to spell ;-)

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Re: Why can�t I put in quotes?

2002-03-24 Thread Parish

Parish wrote:
> rather a *mis* use of these (since they are being used as quotes.

Bah! Dyslexic fingers. That should have read:

rather a *mis* use of these (since they are not being used as quotes in 
this context).


> I also see an apostrophe as Z-umlaut in messages in these NGs posted by 
> some Germans
> 



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Re: Warum hat Mozilla 0.9.9 so viele neue Bugs? Ein Sabotuer?

2002-03-24 Thread Parish

Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote:
> 
> I watch a cooking progam from Enland on the FoodChannel. The Star is
> Jammie Oliver and the show is called "The Naked Chef" the title is
> supposed to mean getting to the bare essentials of food.
> 
> He uses a slang tern for great (as in Taste great)  pucker. Examaple the
> dish is really pucker.
> 

In this context "pucker" comes from Indian (puckah) although I'm willing 
to stand corrected.

> In the US the same word has a different meaning as in Pucker up and Kiss.
> 

Also in Britain.

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Re: tabbed browser ideas

2002-03-24 Thread Parish

David Eckard wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:51:44 UTC, Parish  
> wrote:
> 
>> Ah right. I can relate to that. Although the spining arrow doesn't 
>> bother me I can't use 60Hz monitors as they appear to be flashing like a 
>> strobe light to me, although many co-workers sit in front of them all day.
>> 
> 
> So run it slower or faster than 60.  Monitors clash with florescent 
> lights.
> 

I know, I use 70+Hz. The point I was making is that things affect people 
differently.

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Re: Warum hat Mozilla 0.9.9 so viele neue Bugs? Ein Sabotuer?

2002-03-25 Thread Parish

Garth Wallace wrote:
> 
> It's not a matter of pronunciation. "Your" and "you're" are 
> homophones--they are pronounced exactly the same. It's a spelling 
> mistake, like spelling "read" (past tense) "red".
> 

I wonder. Do any other languages have the the scope for puns and other 
"word games" that English is so suitable for? Also, do they have the 
same phonetic clashes as English, e.g. yaw/you're/your, read/red, 
threw/through, rose/rows/roes.

An extreme example is this, which passes through just about every 
spellchecker (Mozilla's barfs only on chequer), and is phonetically 
correct, but grammatical garbage:


Sum of you may not sea any problems with the following:

The Spelling Chequer (or Poet Tree Without Mist Aches)
==

I have a little spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plainly marks four my revue
Miss steaks eye cannot sea

Each thyme when eye have struck the quays.
I weight for it to say
If  watt eye rote is wrong or rite
It shows me straight a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two late
And eye can put the error rite
No I shall find it grate.

I've run this poem threw it
I'm shore yore policed to know
It's letter perfect in its weigh
My chequer tolled me sew.

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Re: White Screen of Death

2002-03-26 Thread Parish

Pratik wrote:
> On 03/26/2002 11:00 AM, Lee Dillion wrote:
>> The most recent builds (with the new mail notice popup) have resulted in my
>> entire screen going white when a new message is received.  I can get back to
>> my desktop only by terminating a file named "downloading altert.xul" and
>> mozilla.  I am running it on a Win98 laptop.
>> 
>> Anyone else seeing this?
> 
> I saw this yesterday on Win2K. As far as I could tell it happened only 
> when new mail arrived with my screensaver running. If the screen saver 
> wasn't running I din't get teh white screen.
> 

I saw it, W2K also, but it happened the *second* time it ran, the first 
time it worked properly.

Ironically I was browsing Bugzilla when the WSoD struck :-)

> Pratik.
> 
> 



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Re: White Screen of Death

2002-03-26 Thread Parish

Lee Dillion wrote:
> It happened for me on the second time as well, while working fine for 
> the first popup.
> 
> Since I have turned off the alert, I can now use today's build without 
> the WSoD.
> 

Interesting. I *haven't* turned off the alert so the systray icon is 
still showing up, but I haven't seen the "white bubble" again.

Maybe aborting the "downloading alert.xul" kills it?

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Re: White Screen of Death

2002-03-26 Thread Parish

Andrew W. Hagen wrote:
> Reinstall your operating system or any buggy device driver you recently 
> installed.
> 

Don't be stupid - read the thread before making daft suggestions.

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