Re: Netscape 6.01 terminally flawed
fuss was raised during the beta program such backward compatibility was added so that an applet signed using Netscape signing for Netscape 4.x would run under Netscape 6. I can't comment on Java to JavaScript communication since we do not use it, but don't give up on the ability to do basic signing. We use a Thawte multipurpose certificate and it works fine: http://www.thawte.com/certs/developer/diffapps.html "Mark A Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 9dd33m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9dd33m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > It has been posted that Netscape 6.01 is not Java compatible and > prevents signed applets from running. > > Signed applets cannot communicate with Javascript on web pages. > > Netscape has released a product that breaks most applets being used > today and prevents customers from supporting netscape on their > websites. > > When does netscape plan to release a 6.xx version that is not broken > but supports Java and java applet to javascript communication? > > This question has been put to Netscape and Sun officials but there is > no response forthcoming.
Re: Netscape 6.01 terminally flawed
Yeah well, it ain't finished. It was a mistake to release it. The latest open source release, Mozilla 0.9 is usable (0.8 was the first release that could be considered usable for anything other than testing sites) Don't think they've ironed out all the java issues yet though, and I _know_ LiveConnect is still not switched on (although if you build it yourself, there's probably a way to do this). Mark "Up-state NY, U.S.A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Mark--I can't agree with you more. And I can't possibly tell you how disappointed I was with my attempt at using Netscape 6. I sent away for Netscape's CD rather than download the whole package. Once installed, I found Netscape 6 to be: * Very slow (although it did tell me it needed a minimum of 233 MHz and 64 MB of Ram). * My Logitech mouse was no longer able to page... * My attempt at doing e-mail off-line failed. Never did figure out where the e-mail went? * When I un-installed Netscape 6, I found that it had corrupted Windows98 thumbnail view for jpg and gif files. * I played with Netscape 6 for about two days and gave up... So I'm now back running Netscape 4.7 and much happier with it. Apparently I never reached the point you did; however, I'm also very disappointed to learn about the Java problem... Have a nice day, Gary Mark A Gregory wrote: > It has been posted that Netscape 6.01 is not Java compatible and > prevents signed applets from running. > > Signed applets cannot communicate with Javascript on web pages. > > Netscape has released a product that breaks most applets being used > today and prevents customers from supporting netscape on their > websites. > > When does netscape plan to release a 6.xx version that is not broken > but supports Java and java applet to javascript communication? > > This question has been put to Netscape and Sun officials but there is > no response forthcoming.
Re: Netscape 6.01 terminally flawed
Up-state NY, U.S.A. wrote: > Mark--I can't agree with you more. And I can't possibly tell you how > disappointed I was with my attempt at using Netscape 6. I sent away for > Netscape's CD rather than download the whole package. Once installed, I > found Netscape 6 to be: > >* Very slow (although it did tell me it needed a minimum of 233 MHz > and 64 MB of Ram). >* My Logitech mouse was no longer able to page... >* My attempt at doing e-mail off-line failed. Never did figure out > where the e-mail went? >* When I un-installed Netscape 6, I found that it had corrupted > Windows98 thumbnail view for jpg and gif files. >* I played with Netscape 6 for about two days and gave up... Hi Gary, Since you bothered to come to a Mozilla newsgroup to complain about Netscape 6, I'm going to give a Mozillian answer :) Download Mozilla 0.9, and enjoy :) Fabian. > > So I'm now back running Netscape 4.7 and much happier with it. > Apparently I never reached the point you did; however, I'm also very > disappointed to learn about the Java problem... > > Have a nice day, Gary > > Mark A Gregory wrote: > > >>It has been posted that Netscape 6.01 is not Java compatible and >>prevents signed applets from running. >> >>Signed applets cannot communicate with Javascript on web pages. >> >>Netscape has released a product that breaks most applets being used >>today and prevents customers from supporting netscape on their >>websites. >> >>When does netscape plan to release a 6.xx version that is not broken >>but supports Java and java applet to javascript communication? >> >>This question has been put to Netscape and Sun officials but there is >>no response forthcoming. >> >
Re: Netscape 6.01 terminally flawed
On Thu, 10 May 2001 06:18:47 -0400, Up-state NY, U.S.A. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> somehow managed to type: >Mark--I can't agree with you more.=A0 And I can't possibly tell you how >disappointed I was with my attempt at using Netscape 6. Netscape 6 was a marketing decision. Netscape saw a series of negative (and somewhat ignorant) press reports about how long it was taking to finish the next version of their browser. They reacted by forcing through a release of a product that was not even remotely ready. Netscape branded products are also off-topic for the mozilla newsgroups. Followups set. Charles Miller
Re: Netscape 6.01 terminally flawed
Mark--I can't agree with you more. And I can't possibly tell you how disappointed I was with my attempt at using Netscape 6. I sent away for Netscape's CD rather than download the whole package. Once installed, I found Netscape 6 to be: * Very slow (although it did tell me it needed a minimum of 233 MHz and 64 MB of Ram). * My Logitech mouse was no longer able to page... * My attempt at doing e-mail off-line failed. Never did figure out where the e-mail went? * When I un-installed Netscape 6, I found that it had corrupted Windows98 thumbnail view for jpg and gif files. * I played with Netscape 6 for about two days and gave up... So I'm now back running Netscape 4.7 and much happier with it. Apparently I never reached the point you did; however, I'm also very disappointed to learn about the Java problem... Have a nice day, Gary Mark A Gregory wrote: > It has been posted that Netscape 6.01 is not Java compatible and > prevents signed applets from running. > > Signed applets cannot communicate with Javascript on web pages. > > Netscape has released a product that breaks most applets being used > today and prevents customers from supporting netscape on their > websites. > > When does netscape plan to release a 6.xx version that is not broken > but supports Java and java applet to javascript communication? > > This question has been put to Netscape and Sun officials but there is > no response forthcoming.
Re: Netscape 6.01 terminally flawed
Mark A Gregory wrote: > It has been posted that Netscape 6.01 is not Java compatible and > prevents signed applets from running. > > Signed applets cannot communicate with Javascript on web pages. > > Netscape has released a product that breaks most applets being used > today and prevents customers from supporting netscape on their > websites. > > When does netscape plan to release a 6.xx version that is not broken > but supports Java and java applet to javascript communication? > > This question has been put to Netscape and Sun officials but there is > no response forthcoming. This is a newsgroup for the Mozilla Open Source Project, not a Netscape. Indirectly, Mozilla is the basis of Netscape 6, and has been improving since the release of Netscape 6.0. When will Netscape release a newer version of 6.xx based on much more recent and advance Mozilla builds? Well that's for Netscape to decide, and Mozilla is still moving along to reach 1.0 later this year. -- Alex<:3)~~ http://www.gerbilbox.com/newzilla/
TID: Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
ravi narayan wrote: > > Duke Ellington wrote: > > > > > People with C.B.Es etc don't go around all the time with those initials > > attached to their names when write letters to people, so why do you attach > > C.E.T (a thing that is of far less worth than "C.B.E"s etc) when all that > > people want to see is your actual name or a nom de plume? > > > > not that any of this is even remotely germane to the list/newsgroup, but > having seen this thread refuse to die, i have a question: what is so > much more worthy about a "CBE" than a "CET"? seems like the latter > (which seems to be some sort of certification?) is awarded based on some > objective criteria (testing?) and the former is an arbitrary recognition > by an outdated authority. > > --ravi > > ps: perhaps the "queen" uses some objective criteria also, but perhaps > if you can adopt the "nom de plume" of "duke ellington" you can humour > someone else adding some letters to his or her name? > > -- > > man is said to be a rational animal. i do not know why he has not been defined > as an affective or feeling animal. more often i have seen a cat reason than > laugh or weep. perhaps it weeps or laughs inwardly - but then perhaps, also > inwardly, the crab resolves equations of the 2nd degree. -- alasdair macintyre. THREAD IS DEAD! This "thread is Dead". Please! Lets get on to curing the ills of Mozilla / N6, Making it the best Mail & News Client, and Web Browser in the world bar none. So we can beat the socks of MicroSoft. THREAD IS DEAD! -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
Duke Ellington wrote: > > People with C.B.Es etc don't go around all the time with those initials > attached to their names when write letters to people, so why do you attach > C.E.T (a thing that is of far less worth than "C.B.E"s etc) when all that > people want to see is your actual name or a nom de plume? > not that any of this is even remotely germane to the list/newsgroup, but having seen this thread refuse to die, i have a question: what is so much more worthy about a "CBE" than a "CET"? seems like the latter (which seems to be some sort of certification?) is awarded based on some objective criteria (testing?) and the former is an arbitrary recognition by an outdated authority. --ravi ps: perhaps the "queen" uses some objective criteria also, but perhaps if you can adopt the "nom de plume" of "duke ellington" you can humour someone else adding some letters to his or her name? -- man is said to be a rational animal. i do not know why he has not been defined as an affective or feeling animal. more often i have seen a cat reason than laugh or weep. perhaps it weeps or laughs inwardly - but then perhaps, also inwardly, the crab resolves equations of the 2nd degree. -- alasdair macintyre.
Re: TID: Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
"Duke Ellington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > In netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey the people heard Robert Ennis say > these wise words: > > >...and I spoke to a PHD today who calls himself Dr. So you're right. > > A person who holds a PhD IS a Doctor. Doctor of Philosophy. Yes.
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
> No - IMHO, it makes you look like a social-climbing poser prat! _Please_ can we take the personal abuse elsewhere? We don't care if Phillip calls himself Santa Claus as long as he keeps contributing as he has been. Gerv
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
Garth Wallace wrote: > > "Robert Ennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > > And as far as Mr. CET is concerned, he can call himself whatever he > > wants, but if you think CET is anything close to Duke Ellington, then we > > really do have something to quarrel about. I know what CET is and I know > > plenty of CET's, and let me tell you something, there isn't a Duke among > > them. > > Okay, am I missing something? I thought that "Duke > Ellington" was just showing his love of jazz. What > does his pseudonym have to do with CET? Nothing. The thread which I thought using TID: at my last post indicated the Thread is Dead (or Deteriorating) had gone from the subject at hand to a discussion on the CET designation after my name. Some of the threads were tongue in cheek some was serious. Evidently to some My using the designation after my Name infuriates some? -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
"Robert Ennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > And as far as Mr. CET is concerned, he can call himself whatever he > wants, but if you think CET is anything close to Duke Ellington, then we > really do have something to quarrel about. I know what CET is and I know > plenty of CET's, and let me tell you something, there isn't a Duke among > them. Okay, am I missing something? I thought that "Duke Ellington" was just showing his love of jazz. What does his pseudonym have to do with CET?
Re: netscape-6.01
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, AhmetAA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >N6.5 is quite pesimistic.. 6.1 or 6.2 could be ok.. But 6.01 is yes, unusable. >From what I've heard it sounds like 6.5 will be the next release. If it does turn out to be 6.1, then I'd recommend that one (or whatever version of NS that coincides with Mozilla 1.0). >But beware, if your Computer does not have 64M or more RAM (64 is acceptable > but more >is better) or if you have very slow CPU (like slower than 266-300Mhz) Mozilla > or N6 >might be quite painful, at least for now. I've run it on my P2 NT4 233Mhz machine with 64MB and it works fine, easily fast enough once you've got it running. I don't run the Java plugin though. ian. \ / (@_@) http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature) /(&)\ http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art) | |
Re: netscape-6.01
Tim Larson wrote: > > Does anyone know where one could find a change log online, to see > exactly what was fixed? bonsai.mozilla.org will show exactly what was checked into the tree for any slice of time you'd like. 6.01 was based on the branch tag Netscape_2922_BRANCH, and you'd want everything checked in after 6.0 shipped (11/8/2000) -Dan Veditz
Re: netscape-6.01
Does anyone know where one could find a change log online, to see exactly what was fixed? -- Tim Larson - web programming guru Red 5 Interactive, Inc. - www.r5i.com 4549 Fleur Dr. Des Moines, IA 50321
Re: TID: Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
...and I spoke to a PHD today who calls himself Dr. So you're right. Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: > Dear Robert: > > Let's either get back to the real thread at hand or kill the thread. > > I know I am not a Duke (Ellington, Of Earl or otherwise). My postings > about the subject of CET was to enlighten people and to dispute the > implication that people that are CET's have intelligence of little > better than a turnip. (Whether said or implied.) > > It's just a habit I've gotten into and is part of my signature line and > or my email address. It nothing to get bent out of shape over. BTW: I > have run into people that do use ME and EE after their names. > > Robert Ennis wrote: > >> Dear Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Späth: >> >> Well now that you got that off your chest, how are you? And what do you >> know about "such guys like me"? Such guys like me? How do you know what >> such a guy like me is anyhow? How do you know who you're talking to? >> "Childish ranting"? Give me a break. I'm sick of you Newsgroup Police >> with authoritarian personalities (where does that come from??) - >> individuals who think it's their responsibility to scold people saying >> things they somehow find offensive to the NG. Please forgive me. Sir. >> >> I say this with the greatest respect, Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian >> Späth, since I would never accuse you of ranting childishly, even if >> what you said was insightful and intelligent, and who knows, someday it >> might be. >> >> And as far as Mr. CET is concerned, he can call himself whatever he >> wants, but if you think CET is anything close to Duke Ellington, then we >> really do have something to quarrel about. I know what CET is and I know >> plenty of CET's, and let me tell you something, there isn't a Duke among >> them. >> >> Do you follow me Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Späth? >> >> Cand. wrote: >> >> >>> On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:00:52 -0500, Robert Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I mean, with due respect all around, I operate in a world of eBiz and IT and there are so many "certified" techs of all description running around that it's a joke. None of them, I might add, adds the title to his/her name. Certification is not like a PHD. It's about learning what you can from a few books and taking a test. I know this because I'm involved in the process. There is no social or academic status attached to it. But the guy uses a middle initial too. So it kind of adds up doesn't it? >>> >>> >>> I usually am really patient with such guys like you, but I have to say >>> that *you* really added up a lot shit too. I am damn close to find out >>> how kill files work and I never had to use that feature before. >>> >>> It is not that I don't have a sense of humour but your childish >>> ranting in several NGs is really annoying. >>> And if people want to use four middle names I wouldn't care, if that >>> is what people want to be called. >>> It seems to be Netiquette here to use your real life names (which is >>> ok), but what the heck is it your business if people feel their title >>> belongs to their name? Who are you to judge that, please? >>> It might be much important to people in other countries, cultures or >>> another education than yours, ever thought of that? >>> >>> >>> Sorry, could not resist, >>> Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Späth >>
Re: netscape-6.01
AhmetAA wrote: > > Hi > N6.5 is quite pesimistic.. Not if you consider that it's probably the next .x release, given Netscape's marketing
TID: Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
Dear Robert: Let's either get back to the real thread at hand or kill the thread. I know I am not a Duke (Ellington, Of Earl or otherwise). My postings about the subject of CET was to enlighten people and to dispute the implication that people that are CET's have intelligence of little better than a turnip. (Whether said or implied.) It's just a habit I've gotten into and is part of my signature line and or my email address. It nothing to get bent out of shape over. BTW: I have run into people that do use ME and EE after their names. Robert Ennis wrote: > > Dear Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Späth: > > Well now that you got that off your chest, how are you? And what do you > know about "such guys like me"? Such guys like me? How do you know what > such a guy like me is anyhow? How do you know who you're talking to? > "Childish ranting"? Give me a break. I'm sick of you Newsgroup Police > with authoritarian personalities (where does that come from??) - > individuals who think it's their responsibility to scold people saying > things they somehow find offensive to the NG. Please forgive me. Sir. > > I say this with the greatest respect, Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian > Späth, since I would never accuse you of ranting childishly, even if > what you said was insightful and intelligent, and who knows, someday it > might be. > > And as far as Mr. CET is concerned, he can call himself whatever he > wants, but if you think CET is anything close to Duke Ellington, then we > really do have something to quarrel about. I know what CET is and I know > plenty of CET's, and let me tell you something, there isn't a Duke among > them. > > Do you follow me Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Späth? > > Cand. wrote: > > > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:00:52 -0500, Robert Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> I mean, with due respect all around, I operate in a world of eBiz and IT > >> and there are so many "certified" techs of all description running > >> around that it's a joke. None of them, I might add, adds the title to > >> his/her name. Certification is not like a PHD. It's about learning what > >> you can from a few books and taking a test. I know this because I'm > >> involved in the process. There is no social or academic status attached > >> to it. > >> > >> But the guy uses a middle initial too. So it kind of adds up doesn't it? > > > > > > I usually am really patient with such guys like you, but I have to say > > that *you* really added up a lot shit too. I am damn close to find out > > how kill files work and I never had to use that feature before. > > > > It is not that I don't have a sense of humour but your childish > > ranting in several NGs is really annoying. > > And if people want to use four middle names I wouldn't care, if that > > is what people want to be called. > > It seems to be Netiquette here to use your real life names (which is > > ok), but what the heck is it your business if people feel their title > > belongs to their name? Who are you to judge that, please? > > It might be much important to people in other countries, cultures or > > another education than yours, ever thought of that? > > > > > > Sorry, could not resist, > > Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Späth -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
Re: netscape-6.01
Hi N6.5 is quite pesimistic.. 6.1 or 6.2 could be ok.. But 6.01 is yes, unusable. For Moz 0.8, i agree that it shall replace Netscape 4.x (or N6) easily.. although there are quite a lot of known bugs, even nightly builds are much better, comparing to N 4.x or N6 in terms of stability and functionality. But beware, if your Computer does not have 64M or more RAM (64 is acceptable but more is better) or if you have very slow CPU (like slower than 266-300Mhz) Mozilla or N6 might be quite painful, at least for now. Ian Davey wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Zsolt Koppany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >a couple of weeks ago I tried netscape-6.0 under Linux. The software was > >simple unusable. Should I try 6.01? I can hardly imagine that a lot of > >bugs were fixed in a couple of weeks. Right now I use 4.76 and it is > >stable. > > You should wait for Mozilla 0.8 which should be out very soon (sometime this > week hopefully) and install that. The recently nightlies have been excellent > under Linux, and quite a bit faster than Mozilla 0.7. I'd wait until Netscape > 6.5 before performing an upgrade from NS4.75. > > ian. > > \ / > (@_@) http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature) > /(&)\ http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art) > | |
Re: netscape-6.01
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Zsolt Koppany <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >a couple of weeks ago I tried netscape-6.0 under Linux. The software was >simple unusable. Should I try 6.01? I can hardly imagine that a lot of >bugs were fixed in a couple of weeks. Right now I use 4.76 and it is >stable. You should wait for Mozilla 0.8 which should be out very soon (sometime this week hopefully) and install that. The recently nightlies have been excellent under Linux, and quite a bit faster than Mozilla 0.7. I'd wait until Netscape 6.5 before performing an upgrade from NS4.75. ian. \ / (@_@) http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/ (dark literature) /(&)\ http://www.eclipse.co.uk/sweetdespise/libertycaptions/ (art) | |
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
Okay, okay. I'm sorry. You deserve the title. Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: > Actually in the case of CET's you can't take the Journeyman level test, > until you have 2 years experience in trade your taking the Test. > > The exam is two part. > > 75 on Basic Electronics (Theory) > 75 Journeyman level Test (based on knowledge of the field to which you > work). > > Some of the Journeyman test are: > > "Consumer Electronics" (Radio/Tv/Stereo/DVD/HDTV) > > "Computer" (Equivalent to the A+ exam for Computer Technicians) > > "Communications" (It and 25 question Rules exam is equivalent to 2ND > Class FCC exam which allow work on Two - way Communications equipment) > > "Radar" (taking this test makes it eaier for Radar Technicians to get > jobs in the Airline industry) > > While you may or may not be impressed with Titles. CET is not to be > taken lightly. > > On the other hand When I worked as the sole Electronics Technician for a > 25 - school, school system; I ran into many Phd's that although they had > plenty of book knowledge; they had the common sense of a turnip. > > I did run into some though that didn't put up pretenses, didn't stick > their noses in the air, and look down on the masses, and had plenty of > Common sense. > > Most CET's after they pass the exam use the title after their name, it tradition. > > Robert Ennis wrote: > >> I mean, with due respect all around, I operate in a world of eBiz and IT >> and there are so many "certified" techs of all description running >> around that it's a joke. None of them, I might add, adds the title to >> his/her name. Certification is not like a PHD. It's about learning what >> you can from a few books and taking a test. I know this because I'm >> involved in the process. There is no social or academic status attached >> to it. >> >> But the guy uses a middle initial too. So it kind of adds up doesn't it? >> >> Duke Ellington wrote: >> >> >>> In netscape.public.mozilla.general the people heard Robert Ennis say >>> these wise words: >>> >>> >>> I'm much more impressed with your title, Duke. Certified techs are a dime a dozen and adding the letters to a name is kind of laughable. But a Duke is something else... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> seeya. >>> >>> The Duke >>
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
Dear Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Späth: Well now that you got that off your chest, how are you? And what do you know about "such guys like me"? Such guys like me? How do you know what such a guy like me is anyhow? How do you know who you're talking to? "Childish ranting"? Give me a break. I'm sick of you Newsgroup Police with authoritarian personalities (where does that come from??) - individuals who think it's their responsibility to scold people saying things they somehow find offensive to the NG. Please forgive me. Sir. I say this with the greatest respect, Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Späth, since I would never accuse you of ranting childishly, even if what you said was insightful and intelligent, and who knows, someday it might be. And as far as Mr. CET is concerned, he can call himself whatever he wants, but if you think CET is anything close to Duke Ellington, then we really do have something to quarrel about. I know what CET is and I know plenty of CET's, and let me tell you something, there isn't a Duke among them. Do you follow me Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Späth? Cand. wrote: > On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:00:52 -0500, Robert Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> I mean, with due respect all around, I operate in a world of eBiz and IT >> and there are so many "certified" techs of all description running >> around that it's a joke. None of them, I might add, adds the title to >> his/her name. Certification is not like a PHD. It's about learning what >> you can from a few books and taking a test. I know this because I'm >> involved in the process. There is no social or academic status attached >> to it. >> >> But the guy uses a middle initial too. So it kind of adds up doesn't it? > > > I usually am really patient with such guys like you, but I have to say > that *you* really added up a lot shit too. I am damn close to find out > how kill files work and I never had to use that feature before. > > It is not that I don't have a sense of humour but your childish > ranting in several NGs is really annoying. > And if people want to use four middle names I wouldn't care, if that > is what people want to be called. > It seems to be Netiquette here to use your real life names (which is > ok), but what the heck is it your business if people feel their title > belongs to their name? Who are you to judge that, please? > It might be much important to people in other countries, cultures or > another education than yours, ever thought of that? > > > Sorry, could not resist, > Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Späth
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
Actually in the case of CET's you can't take the Journeyman level test, until you have 2 years experience in trade your taking the Test. The exam is two part. 75 on Basic Electronics (Theory) 75 Journeyman level Test (based on knowledge of the field to which you work). Some of the Journeyman test are: "Consumer Electronics" (Radio/Tv/Stereo/DVD/HDTV) "Computer" (Equivalent to the A+ exam for Computer Technicians) "Communications" (It and 25 question Rules exam is equivalent to 2ND Class FCC exam which allow work on Two - way Communications equipment) "Radar" (taking this test makes it eaier for Radar Technicians to get jobs in the Airline industry) While you may or may not be impressed with Titles. CET is not to be taken lightly. On the other hand When I worked as the sole Electronics Technician for a 25 - school, school system; I ran into many Phd's that although they had plenty of book knowledge; they had the common sense of a turnip. I did run into some though that didn't put up pretenses, didn't stick their noses in the air, and look down on the masses, and had plenty of Common sense. Most CET's after they pass the exam use the title after their name, it tradition. Robert Ennis wrote: > > I mean, with due respect all around, I operate in a world of eBiz and IT > and there are so many "certified" techs of all description running > around that it's a joke. None of them, I might add, adds the title to > his/her name. Certification is not like a PHD. It's about learning what > you can from a few books and taking a test. I know this because I'm > involved in the process. There is no social or academic status attached > to it. > > But the guy uses a middle initial too. So it kind of adds up doesn't it? > > Duke Ellington wrote: > > > In netscape.public.mozilla.general the people heard Robert Ennis say > > these wise words: > > > > > >> I'm much more impressed with your title, Duke. Certified techs are a > >> dime a dozen and adding the letters to a name is kind of laughable. But > >> a Duke is something else... > > > > > > > > > > > > seeya. > > > > The Duke -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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My real name is Lord Lucan :-O -Original Message- From: Cand.wirtsch.ing.Sebastian.Spä[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Cand.wirtsch.ing.Sebastian.Spä[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 February 2001 15:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:00:52 -0500, Robert Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I mean, with due respect all around, I operate in a world of eBiz and IT >and there are so many "certified" techs of all description running >around that it's a joke. None of them, I might add, adds the title to >his/her name. Certification is not like a PHD. It's about learning what >you can from a few books and taking a test. I know this because I'm >involved in the process. There is no social or academic status attached >to it. > >But the guy uses a middle initial too. So it kind of adds up doesn't it? I usually am really patient with such guys like you, but I have to say that *you* really added up a lot shit too. I am damn close to find out how kill files work and I never had to use that feature before. It is not that I don't have a sense of humour but your childish ranting in several NGs is really annoying. And if people want to use four middle names I wouldn't care, if that is what people want to be called. It seems to be Netiquette here to use your real life names (which is ok), but what the heck is it your business if people feel their title belongs to their name? Who are you to judge that, please? It might be much important to people in other countries, cultures or another education than yours, ever thought of that? Sorry, could not resist, Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Späth This message has been checked for all known viruses, by Star Internet, delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit: http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp This message has been checked for all known viruses, by Star Internet, delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit: http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:00:52 -0500, Robert Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I mean, with due respect all around, I operate in a world of eBiz and IT >and there are so many "certified" techs of all description running >around that it's a joke. None of them, I might add, adds the title to >his/her name. Certification is not like a PHD. It's about learning what >you can from a few books and taking a test. I know this because I'm >involved in the process. There is no social or academic status attached >to it. > >But the guy uses a middle initial too. So it kind of adds up doesn't it? I usually am really patient with such guys like you, but I have to say that *you* really added up a lot shit too. I am damn close to find out how kill files work and I never had to use that feature before. It is not that I don't have a sense of humour but your childish ranting in several NGs is really annoying. And if people want to use four middle names I wouldn't care, if that is what people want to be called. It seems to be Netiquette here to use your real life names (which is ok), but what the heck is it your business if people feel their title belongs to their name? Who are you to judge that, please? It might be much important to people in other countries, cultures or another education than yours, ever thought of that? Sorry, could not resist, Cand. wirtsch. ing. Sebastian Späth
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I mean, with due respect all around, I operate in a world of eBiz and IT and there are so many "certified" techs of all description running around that it's a joke. None of them, I might add, adds the title to his/her name. Certification is not like a PHD. It's about learning what you can from a few books and taking a test. I know this because I'm involved in the process. There is no social or academic status attached to it. But the guy uses a middle initial too. So it kind of adds up doesn't it? Duke Ellington wrote: > In netscape.public.mozilla.general the people heard Robert Ennis say > these wise words: > > >> I'm much more impressed with your title, Duke. Certified techs are a >> dime a dozen and adding the letters to a name is kind of laughable. But >> a Duke is something else... > > > > > > seeya. > > The Duke
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I'm much more impressed with your title, Duke. Certified techs are a dime a dozen and adding the letters to a name is kind of laughable. But a Duke is something else... Duke Ellington wrote: > In netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey the people heard Phillip M. Jones, > C.E.T. say these wise words: > > >> The title is used similar to EE or ME (electrical Engineer or Mechanical >> Engineer), PhD, Md or so on. I passed an exam and have a right to use >> the title. I even sign my name on personal checks withe the CET at the >> end. >> >> If you have a More impressive title feel free to use it. I'm not trying >> to impress anyone its just part of my name now. >> >> I had to pass a rather rigorous exam in order to use it. > > > But aren't titles that go at the front of one's name of much more worth to > the one who holds the title? > > > seeya. > > The Duke
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Hi I've got a broken nightly that does, wish I could turn it off. Every time that I open the mail program it opens the default POP3 server and checks for mail. I can't turn it off. Darrin wrote: > On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:00:04 -0500, Robert Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> I think I have it automatically checking mail. Go to Mail/News Account >> Settings under "Edit" and click on "Server" for any or all of your mail >> accounts. In there is an option to check mail with time options. >> > > > Been there, done that. The option is there. No matter what I set it > for, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't check for mail. > It also doesn't check for mail when start NS6, like Communicator does. -- steve http://www.skeeter-s.com/svg SVG examples for Mozilla
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However, I know a lot of MBA's and PHD's who don't entitle themselves, and I don't think you should either. We're all simple folks here. As a matter of fact, I met an OBE the other day, and he doesn't use it (Order Of The British Empire). Come to think of it, Paul McCartney is not only an OBE but a Knight of the Garter, and he doesn't call himself Sir Paul, or add OBE to his name. It's really unnecessary, and a trifle pretentious, and compared to an OBE, PHD or Knight of the Garter, it ain't much. Robert Ennis wrote: > I respect the tile and the credibilty it signifies. > > Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: > >> The title is used similar to EE or ME (electrical Engineer or Mechanical >> Engineer), PhD, Md or so on. I passed an exam and have a right to use >> the title. I even sign my name on personal checks withe the CET at the >> end. >> If you have a More impressive title feel free to use it. I'm not trying >> to impress anyone its just part of my name now. >> >> I had to pass a rather rigorous exam in order to use it. >> >> Robert Ennis wrote: >> >>> Great. Well I have a more impressive title, and I think I'm going to >>> start using it. I invite everybody on this forum with more impressive >>> titles to start using them. >>> >>> With all due respect to certified individuals and people who take this >>> forum too bloody seriously. >>> >>> Katsuhiko Momoi wrote: >>> >>> Asa Dotzler wrote: > Robert Ennis wrote: > > > >> Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? > > > Central European Time? Not sure. But personal attacks are not > welcome here. Probably, Certified Electronics Technician. - Kat > --Asa
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I respect the tile and the credibilty it signifies. Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: > The title is used similar to EE or ME (electrical Engineer or Mechanical > Engineer), PhD, Md or so on. I passed an exam and have a right to use > the title. I even sign my name on personal checks withe the CET at the > end. > > If you have a More impressive title feel free to use it. I'm not trying > to impress anyone its just part of my name now. > > I had to pass a rather rigorous exam in order to use it. > > Robert Ennis wrote: > >> Great. Well I have a more impressive title, and I think I'm going to >> start using it. I invite everybody on this forum with more impressive >> titles to start using them. >> >> With all due respect to certified individuals and people who take this >> forum too bloody seriously. >> >> Katsuhiko Momoi wrote: >> >> >>> Asa Dotzler wrote: >>> >>> Robert Ennis wrote: > Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? Central European Time? Not sure. But personal attacks are not welcome here. >>> >>> >>> Probably, Certified Electronics Technician. >>> >>> - Kat >>> >>> >>> --Asa >>>
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The title is used similar to EE or ME (electrical Engineer or Mechanical Engineer), PhD, Md or so on. I passed an exam and have a right to use the title. I even sign my name on personal checks withe the CET at the end. If you have a More impressive title feel free to use it. I'm not trying to impress anyone its just part of my name now. I had to pass a rather rigorous exam in order to use it. Robert Ennis wrote: > > Great. Well I have a more impressive title, and I think I'm going to > start using it. I invite everybody on this forum with more impressive > titles to start using them. > > With all due respect to certified individuals and people who take this > forum too bloody seriously. > > Katsuhiko Momoi wrote: > > > Asa Dotzler wrote: > > > >> Robert Ennis wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? > >> > >> Central European Time? Not sure. But personal attacks are not welcome here. > > > > > > Probably, Certified Electronics Technician. > > > > - Kat > > > > > >> --Asa -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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Asa Thanks for the support even if i don't get wording or Phrasing right. btw: C.E.T. = Certified Electronics Technician ISCET = International Society of Certified Electronics Technicians NESDA = National Electronics Service Dealers Association ETA = Electronics Technicians Association - International VPEA = Virginia professional Electronics Association Asa Dotzler wrote: > > Robert Ennis wrote: > > > Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? > > Central European Time? Not sure. But personal attacks are not welcome here. > > --Asa -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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Certified Electronics Technician Robert Ennis wrote: > > Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? I mean, I'll bet a lot of us have > titles we could use > > Asa Dotzler wrote: > > > Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> In Mozilla to hide read messages only works if its set to all in > >> messages unread in sort no other combination works. This even includes > >> build 10:10020208 which is last monday's nightly (or latest) > > > > > > There you go again. Please consider using statements which begin with > > "In my experience ..." or "I have been unable to ..." rather than > > "In Mozilla you can't ..." or "In Mozilla ... it does not work". I'm not > > disagreeing with you that there are many areas that have functionality > > which is not as strong as other products but I am bothered that you > > continue to state your experiences with Mozilla as if they are the rule and > > the experiences of everyone else. Mozilla is designed and built to be > > cross platform and so it has many problems that affect everyone. It also > > has problems which only seem to affect specific platforms or configurations. > > When you state (as if it was fact and equally applicable to everyone) that > > something does not work in Mozilla you are doing a disservice to the effort > > to improve the product by clouding the issues and confusing the boundaries > > of problems. > > --Asa -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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Okay In My Experience on Mac Platform. Could possibly affect PC Platform. Asa Dotzler wrote: > > Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: > > > > > In Mozilla to hide read messages only works if its set to all in > > messages unread in sort no other combination works. This even includes > > build 10:10020208 which is last monday's nightly (or latest) > > There you go again. Please consider using statements which begin with > "In my experience ..." or "I have been unable to ..." rather than > "In Mozilla you can't ..." or "In Mozilla ... it does not work". I'm not > disagreeing with you that there are many areas that have functionality > which is not as strong as other products but I am bothered that you > continue to state your experiences with Mozilla as if they are the rule and > the experiences of everyone else. Mozilla is designed and built to be > cross platform and so it has many problems that affect everyone. It also > has problems which only seem to affect specific platforms or configurations. > When you state (as if it was fact and equally applicable to everyone) that > something does not work in Mozilla you are doing a disservice to the effort > to improve the product by clouding the issues and confusing the boundaries > of problems. > > --Asa -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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Chris Hill wrote: > > On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 17:58:11 -0500, "Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T." > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Communicator has the best email newsgroup handling of any system on the > >Market Bar none. Whoever designed its layout and message hadling should > >have a Nobel Proze for science. > > If Communicator is the best mail program or newsreader you've ever > used, you should really try more programs. > > Chris Hill > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've tried OE, Eudora, and one of the NewsWatcher programs for news (been a while so I can't remembert whether it was Ya- or MT- Newswatcher. -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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Mozilla and Netscape6 are works in progress and currently shouldn't be recommend as your day to day news reader or Web browser There is more work to be done. My appologies if my Phrasing is wrong. Robert Ennis wrote: > > I'm not "flipping off" anybody. I'm trying to make a person's life > easier, rather than complicate it further, which is your approach. If > somebody gets satisfaction from one product and not another, simple > common sense suggests that he use the one giving him what he needs. > > "Don't flip off"..right. > > Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: > > > > > Robert Ennis wrote: > > > >> So use Communicator... > >> > >> Darrin wrote: > >> > >> > >>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:00:04 -0500, Robert Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > I think I have it automatically checking mail. Go to Mail/News Account > Settings under "Edit" and click on "Server" for any or all of your mail > accounts. In there is an option to check mail with time options. > > >>> > >>> > >>> Been there, done that. The option is there. No matter what I set it > >>> for, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't check for mail. > >>> It also doesn't check for mail when start NS6, like Communicator does. > >> > > > > Don't flip off someone because a feature doesn't work by saying then use > > Communicator. Mozilla/N6 is supposed to replace Communicator > > unfortunately although some webpages render better, Mail and News still > > doesn't hold a candle to Communicator. Until someone opens Communicator > > and use the email Client and sees how its "supposed" to work. no one > > here will get it. > > > > Communicator has the best email newsgroup handling of any system on the > > Market Bar none. Whoever designed its layout and message hadling should > > have a Nobel Proze for science. > > > > another problem that Mozilla/N6 has is: > > > > Hiding of read messages (on Mozilla or N6) is "still" handled improperly. > > > > In communicator all read messages can be hidden if View > Sort > is set > > for "Threaded" and View > messages > "unread" are set. All read > > messages are hidden as soon as as you go to another folder or newsgroup > > and do not return until you change from unread to all. > > > > In Mozilla to hide read messages only works if its set to all in > > messages unread in sort no other combination works. This even includes > > build 10:10020208 which is last monday's nightly (or latest) -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
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Great. Well I have a more impressive title, and I think I'm going to start using it. I invite everybody on this forum with more impressive titles to start using them. With all due respect to certified individuals and people who take this forum too bloody seriously. Katsuhiko Momoi wrote: > Asa Dotzler wrote: > >> Robert Ennis wrote: >> >> >>> Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? >> >> Central European Time? Not sure. But personal attacks are not welcome here. > > > Probably, Certified Electronics Technician. > > - Kat > > >> --Asa
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Listen. This is not a personal attack and stop policing this forum. A little humour might help some of you. Asa Dotzler wrote: > Robert Ennis wrote: > >> Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? > > > Central European Time? Not sure. But personal attacks are not welcome > here. > > --Asa
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Asa Dotzler wrote: > > Robert Ennis wrote: > > > Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? > > Central European Time? Not sure. But personal attacks are not welcome here. Probably, Certified Electronics Technician. - Kat > > --Asa -- Katsuhiko Momoi Web standards/Embedding/Evangelism [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Robert Ennis wrote: > Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? Central European Time? Not sure. But personal attacks are not welcome here. --Asa
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Right! And what the hell is C.E.T.? I mean, I'll bet a lot of us have titles we could use Asa Dotzler wrote: > Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: > > > > >> In Mozilla to hide read messages only works if its set to all in >> messages unread in sort no other combination works. This even includes >> build 10:10020208 which is last monday's nightly (or latest) > > > There you go again. Please consider using statements which begin with > "In my experience ..." or "I have been unable to ..." rather than > "In Mozilla you can't ..." or "In Mozilla ... it does not work". I'm not > disagreeing with you that there are many areas that have functionality > which is not as strong as other products but I am bothered that you > continue to state your experiences with Mozilla as if they are the rule and > the experiences of everyone else. Mozilla is designed and built to be > cross platform and so it has many problems that affect everyone. It also > has problems which only seem to affect specific platforms or configurations. > When you state (as if it was fact and equally applicable to everyone) that > something does not work in Mozilla you are doing a disservice to the effort > to improve the product by clouding the issues and confusing the boundaries > of problems. > --Asa
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Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: > In Mozilla to hide read messages only works if its set to all in > messages unread in sort no other combination works. This even includes > build 10:10020208 which is last monday's nightly (or latest) There you go again. Please consider using statements which begin with "In my experience ..." or "I have been unable to ..." rather than "In Mozilla you can't ..." or "In Mozilla ... it does not work". I'm not disagreeing with you that there are many areas that have functionality which is not as strong as other products but I am bothered that you continue to state your experiences with Mozilla as if they are the rule and the experiences of everyone else. Mozilla is designed and built to be cross platform and so it has many problems that affect everyone. It also has problems which only seem to affect specific platforms or configurations. When you state (as if it was fact and equally applicable to everyone) that something does not work in Mozilla you are doing a disservice to the effort to improve the product by clouding the issues and confusing the boundaries of problems. --Asa
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On Fri, 09 Feb 2001 17:58:11 -0500, "Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Communicator has the best email newsgroup handling of any system on the >Market Bar none. Whoever designed its layout and message hadling should >have a Nobel Proze for science. If Communicator is the best mail program or newsreader you've ever used, you should really try more programs. Chris Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm not "flipping off" anybody. I'm trying to make a person's life easier, rather than complicate it further, which is your approach. If somebody gets satisfaction from one product and not another, simple common sense suggests that he use the one giving him what he needs. "Don't flip off"..right. Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: > > Robert Ennis wrote: > >> So use Communicator... >> >> Darrin wrote: >> >> >>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:00:04 -0500, Robert Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I think I have it automatically checking mail. Go to Mail/News Account Settings under "Edit" and click on "Server" for any or all of your mail accounts. In there is an option to check mail with time options. >>> >>> >>> Been there, done that. The option is there. No matter what I set it >>> for, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't check for mail. >>> It also doesn't check for mail when start NS6, like Communicator does. >> > > Don't flip off someone because a feature doesn't work by saying then use > Communicator. Mozilla/N6 is supposed to replace Communicator > unfortunately although some webpages render better, Mail and News still > doesn't hold a candle to Communicator. Until someone opens Communicator > and use the email Client and sees how its "supposed" to work. no one > here will get it. > > Communicator has the best email newsgroup handling of any system on the > Market Bar none. Whoever designed its layout and message hadling should > have a Nobel Proze for science. > > another problem that Mozilla/N6 has is: > > Hiding of read messages (on Mozilla or N6) is "still" handled improperly. > > In communicator all read messages can be hidden if View > Sort > is set > for "Threaded" and View > messages > "unread" are set. All read > messages are hidden as soon as as you go to another folder or newsgroup > and do not return until you change from unread to all. > > In Mozilla to hide read messages only works if its set to all in > messages unread in sort no other combination works. This even includes > build 10:10020208 which is last monday's nightly (or latest)
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
Robert Ennis wrote: > > So use Communicator... > > Darrin wrote: > > > On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:00:04 -0500, Robert Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> I think I have it automatically checking mail. Go to Mail/News Account > >> Settings under "Edit" and click on "Server" for any or all of your mail > >> accounts. In there is an option to check mail with time options. > >> > > > > > > Been there, done that. The option is there. No matter what I set it > > for, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't check for mail. > > It also doesn't check for mail when start NS6, like Communicator does. Don't flip off someone because a feature doesn't work by saying then use Communicator. Mozilla/N6 is supposed to replace Communicator unfortunately although some webpages render better, Mail and News still doesn't hold a candle to Communicator. Until someone opens Communicator and use the email Client and sees how its "supposed" to work. no one here will get it. Communicator has the best email newsgroup handling of any system on the Market Bar none. Whoever designed its layout and message hadling should have a Nobel Proze for science. another problem that Mozilla/N6 has is: Hiding of read messages (on Mozilla or N6) is "still" handled improperly. In communicator all read messages can be hidden if View > Sort > is set for "Threaded" and View > messages > "unread" are set. All read messages are hidden as soon as as you go to another folder or newsgroup and do not return until you change from unread to all. In Mozilla to hide read messages only works if its set to all in messages unread in sort no other combination works. This even includes build 10:10020208 which is last monday's nightly (or latest) -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's "fixed", don't "break it"!
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
Boy, are you strict! Daniel Veditz wrote: > Darrin wrote: > >> On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:00:04 -0500, Robert Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> I think I have it automatically checking mail. Go to Mail/News Account >>> Settings under "Edit" and click on "Server" for any or all of your mail >>> accounts. In there is an option to check mail with time options. >>> >> >> Been there, done that. The option is there. No matter what I set it >> for, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't check for mail. >> It also doesn't check for mail when start NS6, like Communicator does. > > > The mozilla groups are dedicated to the development of the Mozilla open > source browser. That feature is working in current Mozilla builds, while > Netscape 6 (even 6.01) is based on an extremely old Mozilla version. > Comments based on Netscape 6 are generally quite inappropriate here unless > you've reproduced the problem in a recent Mozilla build. > > For netscape support see http://www.ufaq.org for lots of good links. > > -Dan Veditz
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
So use Communicator... Darrin wrote: > On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:00:04 -0500, Robert Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> I think I have it automatically checking mail. Go to Mail/News Account >> Settings under "Edit" and click on "Server" for any or all of your mail >> accounts. In there is an option to check mail with time options. >> > > > Been there, done that. The option is there. No matter what I set it > for, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't check for mail. > It also doesn't check for mail when start NS6, like Communicator does.
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
Darrin wrote: > > On Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:00:04 -0500, Robert Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >I think I have it automatically checking mail. Go to Mail/News Account > >Settings under "Edit" and click on "Server" for any or all of your mail > >accounts. In there is an option to check mail with time options. > > > > Been there, done that. The option is there. No matter what I set it > for, it doesn't make a difference. It doesn't check for mail. > It also doesn't check for mail when start NS6, like Communicator does. The mozilla groups are dedicated to the development of the Mozilla open source browser. That feature is working in current Mozilla builds, while Netscape 6 (even 6.01) is based on an extremely old Mozilla version. Comments based on Netscape 6 are generally quite inappropriate here unless you've reproduced the problem in a recent Mozilla build. For netscape support see http://www.ufaq.org for lots of good links. -Dan Veditz
Re: Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake
All I can say so far is that it's a much better build. Let's see... Gervase Markham wrote: > Given the evidence before my eyes at: > > ftp://ftp.netscape.com/pub/netscape6/english/6.01/ > > I have no option but to declare Jerry Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> the > winner of the Netscape 6.01 Sweepstake, with a guess of 2001-01-15, which > is only off by a couple of weeks. Most people, Netscape entrants included, > thought it would be far sooner than this, and only two people (barring > Sebastian Spaeth's 2002-12-31 entry) thought it would be later... > > Congratulations to Jerry. He wins bragging rights. > > Let's just hope www.netscape.com is now giving people this build! > > Gerv
