Re: Re[4]: [MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released
perhaps it is time for someone who fully understands all the options/switches to settle down and write a comprehensive 'Help' file for Lame, - I doubt many who use Lame with a front-end or ripping utility bother to read the 'Usage' file that accompanies the exe file and I don't think users of the dll file even see it. I'm trying to do it in the html doc. I plan to add to it a page about the basic options because there are now too much ones in the full switches page. If you've got any suggestion about the html doc, please share them. Regards, -- Gabriel Bouvigne - France [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 12138873 MP3' Tech: www.mp3-tech.org -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )
Re: [MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released
Yep, and I personnaly use a lame EXE with libnsdfile support, so not only wav files are supported ! - Original Message - From: "Christopher Wise" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 1:12 AM Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Roel VdB wrote: btw: why are mp3's shown anyway when I choose "encode"? I think only showing .wav by default would be better? No, please don't change this. RazorLame can can be used to set up re-encoding of mp3 files. This is very useful if you want to re-encode at a lower bitrate for a Rio. Thanks Holger for a great program. Now all I need is for lame to keep the ID3 tags when re-encoding. Has anyone implemented this yet? -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )
Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released
Hello Steve, Yep, and I personnaly use a lame EXE with libnsdfile support, so not only wav files are supported ! if you feel a bit adventurous, take a look at RazorLame.dat and look for the section "InputFileTypes". You can add more file types there, so if you know your LAME supports more, add them there! (I'd suggest making a copy of the file though; if you ruin this file RazorLame won't work properly any more) Regards, Holger Dors mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )
Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released
Hello David, But I noticed that the -B option is not present in the command line ! congratulations, you found a bug! ;-) I'll fix this in the next release. ( according to the "Show LAME commands:" button , shouldn't that be "show used LAME options:" ? ) Indeed, I'll add this to my to do list. An idea for the layout : put the min and max VBR bitrate slider on the same screen ! Yes, I thought about that myself recently. Why is the ABR bitrate not a slider ? With the option of manual number entry maybe. I'm not sure if a slider is a good control for this; I use sliders for the bitrates because normally only a discreet set of values are available. Regards, Holger Dors mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )
Re[4]: [MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released
Hello Roel, 30 options in 1 screen are less complicated than 30 options scattered over 5 screens. This can probably be disputed for very long! - 1 screen (oversight clarity) - in top, a (greyed out or so) continuous display of current command line. I never understood why enabling this is an option. - only a limited set of "core" options. stereo mode, bitrate, encoder mode, delete after, and the most common flags. Just so you have a nice oversight of options. - a box to add non-common command line options. - a flag to make lame only use that box, instead of adding the content to current selected options. The problem starts with the "most common flags". Who will define those? You've left out VBR, for a start. Similar, I know at least one person who was very happy about that the "Audio Processing" tab where you can set sampling frequency and filter options. Personally, I started RL because of the many options Lame has to offer, it's fun to play with them, and I wanted an easy interface. I admit that the options dialog is far from being perfect, but I think it's a good start. then, why no multithread? it'd be nice to update the to-be-encoded list in one window while the encoding-box is somewhere else... Actually, this is on my wish list. However, unlike LAME, I'm currently the only programmer in RazorLame (I hope this changes soon!), and the wishlist grows and grows. Additional, I do this in my spare time, so please be patient. Regards, Holger Dors mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )
[MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released
Hello everyone, just a quick note that I've release final version 1.1.0 of RazorLame, available from http://www.dors.de/razorlame/ For those who don't know: RazorLame is a Windows front-end for LAME. Regards, Holger Dors mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )
Re: [MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released
Hello everyone, just a quick note that I've release final version 1.1.0 of RazorLame, available from http://www.dors.de/razorlame/ For those who don't know: RazorLame is a Windows front-end for LAME. Regards, Holger Dors mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Nice Holger, I will have a look at it this evening... Ciao Robert -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )
Re: [MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released
Hello Holger, Thursday, August 31, 2000, 11:32:13 AM, you wrote: HD just a quick note that I've release final version 1.1.0 of RazorLame, HD available from http://www.dors.de/razorlame/ I tested the 1.1.0 yesterday, so I think it's still the beta, but it works like a charm for me. If I had to give 1 comment: please make all those settings appear on 1 big page because it's very unhandy to go and look for some options in a few different windows. (Now 'delete source file after encoding' is in the "advanced window", and also I use some from the "expert" window. Would be a lot handier and surveyable if it were in 1 big window like in lamebatch. Also would limit the explanation how to use RazorLame on r3mix.net a _lot_ easier. Maybe also the ability to add files when encoding already? now I must abort the current session to add new directories. (I rip and encode simultaneously) Maybe also a "scan subdir" for files or so. I just encoded Directory van E:\The Grateful Dead - So Many Roads (1965-1995) (5cd). CD1DIR08-30-00 4:52p cd1 CD2DIR08-30-00 4:52p cd2 CD3DIR08-30-00 4:53p cd3 CD4DIR08-30-00 4:53p cd4 CD5DIR08-30-00 4:53p cd5 and for a lazy *** like me it's a whole lot of unnecesary work to add the 5 dirs manually :). btw: why are mp3's shown anyway when I choose "encode"? I think only showing .wav by default would be better? But anyway, still the best program around, cheers, Roel/r3mix.netmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )
Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released
Hello Roel, I tested the 1.1.0 yesterday, so I think it's still the beta, but it works like a charm for me. the executable for the final is the same as the beta one; no one reported any bugs (hard to believe, isn't it? ;-), so I only update the documentation a bit. If I had to give 1 comment: please make all those settings appear on 1 big page because it's very unhandy to go and look for some options in a few different windows. It's hard to come up with a good option dialog for RL, given the vast amount of options LAME has to offer. I think it's a good idea to put those settings in categories, however, I agree, it can get a bit unclearly... I sometimes find myself hopping from one tab to another to check whether a specific option is on or off myself, so I agree, this dialog isn't perfect. On the other hand, I don't want to scare people away after they've looked at the options dialog and are totally lost within all the options... Maybe also a "scan subdir" for files or so. If you drop the parent folder onto the list, view, RL should scan recursively. One caveat: there's no "cancel" option yet... btw: why are mp3's shown anyway when I choose "encode"? I think only showing .wav by default would be better? Not totally clear to me what you mean... However, you're aware of the fact that you can re-encode mp3 with LAME, are you? So I simply don't know if someone dropped 256 kb stereo mp3s and wants to convert them to 56kb mono mp3s for web publishing... Regards, Holger Dors mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )
Re: [MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released
For VBR mode the max bitrate is set on one screen, while min bitrate on the other. Confusing. Also when ABR is selected, the max bitrate slider should be turned off. Don't just blindly throw the CLI options on the screen , think too :-) David Balazic Holger Dors wrote: Hello Roel, I tested the 1.1.0 yesterday, so I think it's still the beta, but it works like a charm for me. the executable for the final is the same as the beta one; no one reported any bugs (hard to believe, isn't it? ;-), so I only update the documentation a bit. If I had to give 1 comment: please make all those settings appear on 1 big page because it's very unhandy to go and look for some options in a few different windows. It's hard to come up with a good option dialog for RL, given the vast amount of options LAME has to offer. I think it's a good idea to put those settings in categories, however, I agree, it can get a bit unclearly... I sometimes find myself hopping from one tab to another to check whether a specific option is on or off myself, so I agree, this dialog isn't perfect. On the other hand, I don't want to scare people away after they've looked at the options dialog and are totally lost within all the options... Maybe also a "scan subdir" for files or so. If you drop the parent folder onto the list, view, RL should scan recursively. One caveat: there's no "cancel" option yet... btw: why are mp3's shown anyway when I choose "encode"? I think only showing .wav by default would be better? Not totally clear to me what you mean... However, you're aware of the fact that you can re-encode mp3 with LAME, are you? So I simply don't know if someone dropped 256 kb stereo mp3s and wants to convert them to 56kb mono mp3s for web publishing... Regards, Holger Dors mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ ) -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )
Re[2]: [MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released
Hello David, For VBR mode the max bitrate is set on one screen, while min bitrate on the other. Confusing. Yes, I know, and I'm open to any suggestions. But I'm not even supporting all switches now, e.g. free bitrates are still missing, as well as the presets aren't available. If someone does come up with a layout of a new option screen, I'd be willing to implement that in an upcoming version. (If I believe that it's better, of course, and it's not too hard to implement.) Also when ABR is selected, the max bitrate slider should be turned off. I disagree. According to the help, it's "NOT RECOMMENDED", but after all it is possible. Who am I to say to the user that he cannot do this when he knows that it's possible? ;-) Regards, Holger Dors mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )
Re: [MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released
David Balazic schrieb am Don, 31 Aug 2000: For VBR mode the max bitrate is set on one screen, while min bitrate on the other. Confusing. Also when ABR is selected, the max bitrate slider should be turned off. Don't just blindly throw the CLI options on the screen , think too :-) David Balazic Well, if you have to ensure that a hardware decoder - which is unable to decode 320 kbit/s frames - can play your MP3s, you can use -Bn with ABR like in VBR too. Ciao Robert -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )
Re: [MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Roel VdB wrote: btw: why are mp3's shown anyway when I choose "encode"? I think only showing .wav by default would be better? No, please don't change this. RazorLame can can be used to set up re-encoding of mp3 files. This is very useful if you want to re-encode at a lower bitrate for a Rio. Thanks Holger for a great program. Now all I need is for lame to keep the ID3 tags when re-encoding. Has anyone implemented this yet? Chris Wise -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )
Re[3]: [MP3 ENCODER] RazorLame 1.1.0 released
Hello Holger, Thursday, August 31, 2000, 2:31:48 PM, you wrote: HD It's hard to come up with a good option dialog for RL, given the vast HD amount of options LAME has to offer. I think it's a good idea to put HD those settings in categories, however, I agree, it can get a bit HD unclearly... I think this is not good way of handling things. If there are too much options, there are too much options. If you decide to catalog some of them as "advanced", some as "expert" and other with another subjective label, it only complicates things even further. 30 options in 1 screen are less complicated than 30 options scattered over 5 screens. What I suggest, since lame will continuously develop and new options will be added, is to simply handle things like this: - 1 screen (oversight clarity) - in top, a (greyed out or so) continuous display of current command line. I never understood why enabling this is an option. - only a limited set of "core" options. stereo mode, bitrate, encoder mode, delete after, and the most common flags. Just so you have a nice oversight of options. - a box to add non-common command line options. - a flag to make lame only use that box, instead of adding the content to current selected options. This is, basically, the way lamebatch did things. In the long run this seems to be the only managable way of constructing a frontend imho: You simply see what's set, and you don't need to look 3 windows back for some setting you also might need. then, why no multithread? it'd be nice to update the to-be-encoded list in one window while the encoding-box is somewhere else... I had to press abort too often :( just some suggestions ... -- Best regards, Roelmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MP3 ENCODER mailing list ( http://geek.rcc.se/mp3encoder/ )