[MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Hi, MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4 has been released: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/ This probably is the last version which depends on FPC-FCL. Upcoming 3.0 release will have own implementations of TPersistent, TComponent, the streaming system, db.pas and other parts of the RTL. There is also an new version of MSEgit and MSEspice. MSEspice is a graphical frontend for the circuit simulation program Ngspice: https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseuniverse/ Have a lot of fun! Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On 12/14/2012 03:15 PM, Martin Schreiber wrote: > Hi, > > MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4 has been released: > https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/ > > This probably is the last version which depends on FPC-FCL. Upcoming 3.0 > release will have own implementations of TPersistent, TComponent, the > streaming system, db.pas and other parts of the RTL. > > There is also an new version of MSEgit and MSEspice. MSEspice is a graphical > frontend for the circuit simulation program Ngspice: > https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseuniverse/ > > Have a lot of fun! > While tryig to compile the 2.8.4 source, got this message Compiling /home/patrick/data/mseide-msegui/lib/common/designutils/msefadeedit_mfm.pas Fatal: Can't find unit msecryptohandler used by regkernel Fatal: Compilation aborted -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
That was on a debian wheezy system. Patrick -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Saturday 15 December 2012 16:20:18 Patrick Goupell wrote: > While tryig to compile the 2.8.4 source, got this message > > Compiling > /home/patrick/data/mseide-msegui/lib/common/designutils/msefadeedit_mfm.pas > Fatal: Can't find unit msecryptohandler used by regkernel > Fatal: Compilation aborted > Ups, package error. I replaced the mseide_msegui_src_2_8_4.zip file on SourceForge, please try again. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On 12/15/2012 11:51 AM, Martin Schreiber wrote: > On Saturday 15 December 2012 16:20:18 Patrick Goupell wrote: >> While tryig to compile the 2.8.4 source, got this message >> >> Compiling >> /home/patrick/data/mseide-msegui/lib/common/designutils/msefadeedit_mfm.pas >> Fatal: Can't find unit msecryptohandler used by regkernel >> Fatal: Compilation aborted >> > Ups, package error. I replaced the mseide_msegui_src_2_8_4.zip file on > SourceForge, please try again. > > Success. Patrick -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On 14/12/12 20:15, Martin Schreiber wrote: > > This probably is the last version which depends on FPC-FCL. I often feel like doing the same. Hell, sometimes even replacing the RTL. I already have a slimmed down SysUtils and Classes unit in a private branch. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
I did not find tstringcontainers for translation MSEide and MSEi18n from English to Russian. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Sunday 16 December 2012 01:05:28 Алексей Логинов wrote: > I did not find tstringcontainers for translation MSEide and MSEi18n > from English to Russian. > tstringcontainer is in component palette in tab NoGui. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
I wanted to translate all resourcestrings in MSEide and in MSEi18n. Please, put all resourcestrings for translation from code into tstringcontainer. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Sunday 16 December 2012 11:39:15 Алексей Логинов wrote: > I wanted to translate all resourcestrings in MSEide and in MSEi18n. > Please, put all resourcestrings for translation from code into > tstringcontainer. > Much work. Why do you think it is necessary to translate MSEide? Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Children, who learn pascal, don't understand English. It's needed for school children and for students. English don't allow to use MSEide in Edu distributions. Instead MSEide all use lazarus, geany, in which there are many languages. MSEide can not be popular without language support. I built rpm package, but language support is very-very low: ftp://ftp.mageialinux.ru/mageia2/SRPMS/mseide-msegui-2.8.4-1.mrc.mga2.src.rpm -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On 12/14/2012 03:15 PM, Martin Schreiber wrote: > Hi, > > MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4 has been released: > https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/ > I have put a windows 2.8.4 .setup.exe file on the website (www.msegui.org) Download page. I will try to get a linux install script setup as well. Patrick -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
I will try to get a linux install script setup as well. = An excellent idea ! Though the DEBIAN guys refuse to ACCEPT such (in-place-build) way of installation to their distros %) On MSEGUI.ORG, for win-32 version, the "Print" version of page has to be selected to get downloading (OPERA). 2012/12/16, Patrick Goupell : > > > On 12/14/2012 03:15 PM, Martin Schreiber wrote: >> Hi, >> >> MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4 has been released: >> https://sourceforge.net/projects/mseide-msegui/ >> > I have put a windows 2.8.4 .setup.exe file on the website > (www.msegui.org) Download page. > > I will try to get a linux install script setup as well. > > Patrick > > -- > LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial > Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support > Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services > Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers > http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d > ___ > mseide-msegui-talk mailing list > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk > -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Sunday 16 December 2012 15:29:25 Алексей Логинов wrote: > Children, who learn pascal, don't understand English. It's needed for > school children and for students. English don't allow to use MSEide in > Edu distributions. Instead MSEide all use lazarus, geany, in which > there are many languages. MSEide can not be popular without language > support. OK, accepted. ;-) Do you think there is a real chance for MSEide+MSEgui in education? Who makes the also necessary help system? Who writes the documentation? Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Who makes the also necessary help system = We need a proper RTF display widget (capable of displaying images & hyper linking) then the INF format (one of generated by FPDOC, has significant advantages as to chaptering & search & size, but needs some extending for UTF-8 support) may be used for the integrated help system. First tests (Graeme's & mine) of INF viewers were very nice :) -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Now I'm building EduMageia distribution, based on MageiaOS (fork of MagOS and Mageia): http://code.google.com/p/mageiaos/ Author of book about Lazarus: http://mansurov-oshtu.ucoz.ru/index/downloads/0-5 I asked Mansurov 26.08.2012 - he can write Russian book about MSEide for children and students. That's why with language support MSEide can be popular and no problem with base documentations for education. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Saturday 15 December 2012 18:19:24 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 14/12/12 20:15, Martin Schreiber wrote: > > This probably is the last version which depends on FPC-FCL. > > I often feel like doing the same. Hell, sometimes even replacing the > RTL. I already have a slimmed down SysUtils and Classes unit in a > private branch. > It seems to me, main target of FPC development today is compatibility to the "modern" Delphi language constructs, I don't want to go this route. And we need more flexibility, I can't fight days or weeks with Michael and Marco for every little change which is not on Lazarus or their own benefit. Ouh, and there still is no unicode support for resource strings, no official statement how unicode will be implemented in RTL, the compiler becomes slower and slower, smart linking MSEide on 64 bit Linux is not possible with 2GB ram, still no Delphi-like packages... Sad. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Monday 17 December 2012 08:41:59 Ivanko B wrote: > Who makes the also necessary help system > = > We need a proper RTF display widget (capable of displaying images & > hyper linking) then the INF format (one of generated by FPDOC, has > significant advantages as to chaptering & search & size, but needs > some extending for UTF-8 support) may be used for the integrated help > system. I don't believe it. If I made such a widget you will use it in your own projects but nobody will find the time to write documentation. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Monday 17 December 2012 08:48:31 Алексей Логинов wrote: > Now I'm building EduMageia distribution, based on MageiaOS (fork of > MagOS and Mageia): http://code.google.com/p/mageiaos/ > Author of book about Lazarus: > http://mansurov-oshtu.ucoz.ru/index/downloads/0-5 I asked Mansurov > 26.08.2012 - he can write Russian book about MSEide for children and > students. He can write or he *will* write? Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
If I made such a widget you will use it in your own projects == Me just mean that the absence of own (calling help items within same window, with bookmarking etc) cross-platform help system (no matter whether it uses the mentioned RTF widget) is a drawback :) Me already checked the things thoroughly - OPERA doesn't provide any RPC hooks, MOZILLA's RPC doesn' have Pascal bindings,.. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
> He can write or he *will* write? When MSEide will speak Russian full, then to write book will be easy. When I'll translate all resourcestrings, then he will have Russian illustrations for book. He can write and he said he will write book. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Monday 17 December 2012 10:04:09 Алексей Логинов wrote: > > He can write or he *will* write? > > When MSEide will speak Russian full, then to write book will be easy. Really? MSEide exists since 1999 in English language, there still is no serious English text about it. Why do you think it is different in Russian language? > When I'll translate all resourcestrings, then he will have Russian > illustrations for book. He can write and he said he will write book. > Does the author know MSEide+MSEgui? Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On 17/12/12 09:36, Martin Schreiber wrote: > > Really? MSEide exists since 1999 in English language, there still is no > serious English text about it. Why do you think it is different in Russian > language? All I can add is that MSEide+MSEgui does have a much larger east-Europe and east-Asia following. So native English users seem much less. I know this is not a definitive reason why no English books or documentation exist about MSEide+MSEgui. But, it is just an observation… Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Yes, author know MSEide+MSEgui and it's interest for him. Nobody wrote English book because MSEide+MSEgui is English, all documentation is English. Russian people more interest in book. MSEide+MSEgui when will be Russian full, then will be first time for your project in Russia. Teacher who writes Manuals gets most academic degree - it's more actual for Russian Universities, then for other countries. Russian speaks: uk, be, ba, bg, ce, cu, cv, kk, kv, mo, tt, ru, etc. In Russia, now the era of free software, developed by national OS based on open source code. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Why do you think it is different in Russian language? Martin, English etc eastern languages are taught badly in xUSSR since our people rarely need them because of own wide IT environment and our people also dislike foreign tourists etc thus no reasons remaining to invest efforts & time in learning English etc :) -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Monday 17 December 2012 12:10:39 Ivanko B wrote: > Why do you think it is different in Russian > language? > > Martin, English etc eastern languages are taught badly in xUSSR since > our people rarely need them because of own wide IT environment and > our people also dislike foreign tourists etc thus no reasons remaining > to invest efforts & time in learning English etc :) > I meant nobody wrote a serious English text about MSEide+MSEgui since 1999, why should it be different in Russian language? Why should I believe if I internationalise MSEide the situation will change? Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
The situation does not change, because there are no different languages. As soon as the lot of languages, it will be more documentation. I believe in it. It's too difficult to understand foreign English for non speaking English. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
meant nobody wrote a serious English text about MSEide+MSEgui since 1999, why should it be different in Russian language? == Anyway It should be a person capable of (or specialized on, timed on because of duties) writting SERIOUS documentation. Alexey affirms there's such a person in the xUSSR :) -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On 17/12/12 12:47, Ivanko B wrote: > meant nobody wrote a serious English text about MSEide+MSEgui since 1999, > why should it be different in Russian language? > == > Anyway It should be a person capable of (or specialized on, timed on > because of duties) writting SERIOUS documentation. Alexey affirms > there's such a person in the xUSSR :) Hi Ivanko, Off-topic but curious. What email client do you use? I have never seen any email client with such strange email quoting style as I see in your emails. Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On 12/17/2012 05:09 AM, Алексей Логинов wrote: > Yes, author know MSEide+MSEgui and it's interest for him. > Nobody wrote English book because MSEide+MSEgui is English, all > documentation is English. > Russian people more interest in book. MSEide+MSEgui when will be > Russian full, then will be first time for your project in Russia. > Teacher who writes Manuals gets most academic degree - it's more > actual for Russian Universities, then for other countries. > Russian speaks: uk, be, ba, bg, ce, cu, cv, kk, kv, mo, tt, ru, etc. > In Russia, now the era of free software, developed by national OS > based on open source code. > > Because you are talking about language translations, I saw this article on linux news (lxer.com) today. It may or may not be interesting. Zanata, an open source translation platform. http://opensource.com/life/12/11/zanata-new-open-source-translation-platform -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Off-topic but curious. What email client do you use? I have never seen any email client with such strange email quoting style as I see in your emails. === Do You mean the "==..==" between replies ? There're manually typed :) PS: me use Opera via WWW-browser at the moment (both work & home machines had to be reinstalled ) 2012/12/17, Patrick Goupell : > > > On 12/17/2012 05:09 AM, Алексей Логинов wrote: >> Yes, author know MSEide+MSEgui and it's interest for him. >> Nobody wrote English book because MSEide+MSEgui is English, all >> documentation is English. >> Russian people more interest in book. MSEide+MSEgui when will be >> Russian full, then will be first time for your project in Russia. >> Teacher who writes Manuals gets most academic degree - it's more >> actual for Russian Universities, then for other countries. >> Russian speaks: uk, be, ba, bg, ce, cu, cv, kk, kv, mo, tt, ru, etc. >> In Russia, now the era of free software, developed by national OS >> based on open source code. >> >> > Because you are talking about language translations, I saw this article > on linux news (lxer.com) today. It may or may not be interesting. > > Zanata, an open source translation platform. > > http://opensource.com/life/12/11/zanata-new-open-source-translation-platform > > -- > LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial > Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support > Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services > Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers > http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d > ___ > mseide-msegui-talk mailing list > mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk > -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
uk, be, ba, bg, ce, cu, cv, kk, kv, mo, tt, ru, etc. = 1/6 of the world + the eastern Europe + the East Germany, many arabs, vietnameeze, chineeze... and the russian speaking people are curious because of the russian ( non-deterministic ) way of thinking. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On 12/17/2012 01:07 AM, Ivanko B wrote: > I will try to get a linux install script setup as well. > = > An excellent idea ! > Though the DEBIAN guys refuse to ACCEPT such (in-place-build) way of > installation to their distros %) > > On MSEGUI.ORG, for win-32 version, the "Print" version of page has to > be selected to get downloading (OPERA). > > I will check out the opera problem. Will have to download and check it out. I use firefox for almost everything. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On 12/17/2012 01:07 AM, Ivanko B wrote: > I will try to get a linux install script setup as well. > = > An excellent idea ! > Though the DEBIAN guys refuse to ACCEPT such (in-place-build) way of > installation to their distros %) > > On MSEGUI.ORG, for win-32 version, the "Print" version of page has to > be selected to get downloading (OPERA). > > Strange happenings on the Download. I was trying to put a counter to track the downloads. It works while I am logged into my Drupal account. Once I log out of my Drupal account it no longer works. So no download counting for now. Patrick -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Hallo Patrick, Du schriebst am Sun, 16 Dec 2012 12:27:26 -0500: > I have put a windows 2.8.4 .setup.exe file on the website > (www.msegui.org) Download page. > > I will try to get a linux install script setup as well. You might rather consider to pack'em up in a couple "standard" packet formats. like .rpm or .deb, where with the latter Ivanko possibly could help you, if he's not still an active maintainer of such a package. It shouldn't be too difficult to set up such a package, as there shouldn't be much more in terms of dependencies as fpc, and that's probabely not available through the distribution anyway (although a few have adopted it, in fact). That way, you already covered the majority of distributions. For "the rest of them", you could simply set up a .tar.gz, .tar.bz2, .tar.xz ... package with a script file and COPYRIGHT, README, CHANGES, CREDITS... files (most of which are already in place or could be renamed apropriately), and, last not least, a description how to (build and) INSTALL the thing. If you'd want to get fancy, you might even attempt to add a Makefile, executing the statement already given sometimes for calling the fpc compiler to build mseide and install it to a convenient bin directory (preferably /usr/local/bin). The Makefile needs not contain much more than the one attached, although you could get even fancier here. -- (Weitergabe von Adressdaten, Telefonnummern u.ä. ohne Zustimmung nicht gestattet, ebenso Zusendung von Werbung oder ähnlichem) --- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, S. Schicktanz --- Makefile Description: Binary data -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Please return tools/i18n/msei18n.ico - I use this ico for desktop file in rpm package. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On 12/17/2012 04:12 PM, Sieghard wrote: > > You might rather consider to pack'em up in a couple "standard" packet > formats. like .rpm or .deb, where with the latter Ivanko possibly could help > you, if he's not still an active maintainer of such a package. It shouldn't > be too difficult to set up such a package, as there shouldn't be much more > in terms of dependencies as fpc, and that's probabely not available through > the distribution anyway (although a few have adopted it, in fact). > > That way, you already covered the majority of distributions. > For "the rest of them", you could simply set up a .tar.gz, .tar.bz2, > .tar.xz ... package with a script file and COPYRIGHT, README, CHANGES, > CREDITS... files (most of which are already in place or could be renamed > apropriately), and, last not least, a description how to (build and) > INSTALL the thing. > If you'd want to get fancy, you might even attempt to add a Makefile, > executing the statement already given sometimes for calling the fpc > compiler to build mseide and install it to a convenient bin directory > (preferably /usr/local/bin). > The Makefile needs not contain much more than the one attached, although > you could get even fancier here. > I was thinking of doing something like that. So for a start what do you think about: Where should the library go? I was thinking of putting it in /var/lib/mseide/"version" similar to fpc. Put a symbolic link /usr/bin/mseide or /usr/local/bin/mseide to /var/lib/mseide/"verson"/apps/ide/mseide What about the user's .mseide/mseideli.sta file? Do any checks for it or just leave it alone? Do we leave that for the user to update their Settings -> Configure MSE manually? Anything else you can think of? Patrick -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
if he's not still an active maintainer of such a package. === Me may make an out-of-distro DEB-package (that's to prepare the "debian/rules file" for further building with "dpkg-buildpackage -us" ). Should me ? -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
as there shouldn't be much more in terms of dependencies as fpc In-distro deps are hard to maintain. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On 12/18/2012 12:39 AM, Ivanko B wrote: > if he's not still an active maintainer of such a package. > === > Me may make an out-of-distro DEB-package (that's to prepare the > "debian/rules file" for further building with "dpkg-buildpackage -us" > ). Should me ? > If it would not take up too much of your time, I would like to see it. Patrick -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 01:23:42 Алексей Логинов wrote: > Please return tools/i18n/msei18n.ico - I use this ico for desktop file > in rpm package. > It is in git repository. I don't think it looks nice in small size. http://gitorious.org/mseide-msegui/mseide-msegui/trees/master/tools/i18n Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Monday 17 December 2012 13:15:26 Алексей Логинов wrote: > The situation does not change, because there are no different > languages. As soon as the lot of languages, it will be more > documentation. I believe in it. > It's too difficult to understand foreign English for non speaking English. > git master 86d9db0aea812073f66b705deaf25a67ceb0ce13 has the string constants for MSEide in tstringcontainer: http://gitorious.org/mseide-msegui/mseide-msegui Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Hallo Ivanko, Du schriebst am Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:39:04 +0300: > Me may make an out-of-distro DEB-package (that's to prepare the > "debian/rules file" for further building with "dpkg-buildpackage -us" > ). Should me ? Why not, go ahead! I'll just not have much use for it, though, as I'm not a Debian user, and probabely never will be. Debian's just too many idiosyncrasies for my taste - but then, most distributions have... (I'm just now on the search again, as Arch right now tends to drift too much toward a "bleeding edge" that might hurt...) -- (Weitergabe von Adressdaten, Telefonnummern u.ä. ohne Zustimmung nicht gestattet, ebenso Zusendung von Werbung oder ähnlichem) --- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, S. Schicktanz --- -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Hallo Alexsej, Du schriebst am Tue, 18 Dec 2012 03:23:42 +0300: > Please return tools/i18n/msei18n.ico - I use this ico for desktop file > in rpm package. Errmm - _what_? I've not taken it away, if you don't have it anymore, it wasn't me... Or what did you want to say with this? -- (Weitergabe von Adressdaten, Telefonnummern u.ä. ohne Zustimmung nicht gestattet, ebenso Zusendung von Werbung oder ähnlichem) --- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, S. Schicktanz --- -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Hallo Patrick, Du schriebst am Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:54:12 -0500: [Linux package] > I was thinking of doing something like that. So for a start what do you > think about: > > Where should the library go? I was thinking of putting it in > /var/lib/mseide/"version" similar to fpc. What library? MSEIDE doesn't use a library of its own, if I didn't misunderstand something very badly. If you're talking about its (GUI) _sources_, I gather the currently accepted place would be some subdirectory of /usr/local/share or even /usr/share - although Martin selected /usr/lib/MSE-IDE, or was that me who once arranged it that way? Or let the user decide. (A ../lib directory probabely isn't a very good choice, as these seem to evolve towards a store for purely binary ressources. Then there was the include group, which IMHO isn't too good either, because it's rather meant for pure header files meant for linking to libraries. Leaves the ../share directories, which currently hold a congolmerate of text and binary ressources for many purposes, something like a generalized "etc" repository...) > Put a symbolic link /usr/bin/mseide or /usr/local/bin/mseide to > /var/lib/mseide/"verson"/apps/ide/mseide For an out-of-distribution packet, the /usr/local hierarchy should be preferred. A distribution packet (or closely related one, which can be managed by the distribution's packet system) may use the plain /usr hierarchy. > What about the user's .mseide/mseideli.sta file? Do any checks for it Nothing - Martin made mseide care about it itself. It's currently stored under ~/.mseide, and that's where it belongs, IMHO. > or just leave it alone? Do we leave that for the user to update their > Settings -> Configure MSE manually? Yes, definitly. A packet shouldn't normally mess with user configurations. You could add a make option to remove them, though, if mentioned in the README or so and sufficiently distinctively named, like "cleanall" or even "cleanuser" - you might find a better name. > Anything else you can think of? Well, as I said, you could get fancy here - there are many things you could do, like install menu entries for the desktop environment used (if any), put icons on the desktop (if possible), create a setup to let the user configure any item the IDE allows (fonts, colors, shortcuts, macros... you name it) - but I suggest getting the bare minimum done first before going wild. ;-) Which would include - the IDE and the GUI sources - some means to put them in a convenient (and acceptable) place - a Makefile to build the IDE and make it available for use - and possibly a means to undo all of that. That should be sufficient for a first attempt. If it get approved, you'll probabely get enough suggestions for improvement to keep you busy... -- (Weitergabe von Adressdaten, Telefonnummern u.ä. ohne Zustimmung nicht gestattet, ebenso Zusendung von Werbung oder ähnlichem) --- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, S. Schicktanz --- -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
If you have better quality or png - it will be better! [Desktop Entry] Name=MSEi18n Comment=Tool for the localization of applications written in MSEide+MSEgui Comment[ru]=Утилита для локализации приложений, написанных в MSEide+MSEgui Type=Application Exec=msei18n Icon=/opt/mseide-msegui/tools/i18n/msei18n.ico Terminal=false Categories=IDE;Development; -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Tuesday 18 December 2012 21:31:13 Sieghard wrote: > > Where should the library go? I was thinking of putting it in > > /var/lib/mseide/"version" similar to fpc. > > What library? MSEIDE doesn't use a library of its own, if I didn't > misunderstand something very badly. > If you're talking about its (GUI) _sources_, I gather the currently > accepted place would be some subdirectory of /usr/local/share or > even /usr/share - although Martin selected /usr/lib/MSE-IDE, or was that me > who once arranged it that way? It was you. In order to avoid such decisions I solely provide a zip of the source tree and MSEide binary with a README.TXT which writes how to setup the path to the sources. ;-) Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Hallo Martin, Du schriebst am Wed, 19 Dec 2012 07:54:55 +0100: > > even /usr/share - although Martin selected /usr/lib/MSE-IDE, or was > > that me who once arranged it that way? > > It was you. In order to avoid such decisions I solely provide a zip of Could well be so. May be in relation to fpc's putting their stuff there, too, although they _do_ put the sources below /usr/share. I should probabely change it. -- (Weitergabe von Adressdaten, Telefonnummern u.ä. ohne Zustimmung nicht gestattet, ebenso Zusendung von Werbung oder ähnlichem) --- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, S. Schicktanz --- -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Errors in release 2.8.4 <><><>-- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
To add space beetween buttons (xdf002.png). What must I select (xdf007.png)? <><>-- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Saturday 22 December 2012 00:18:12 Алексей Логинов wrote: > Errors in release 2.8.4 I don't understand. Steps? Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Saturday 22 December 2012 00:22:18 Алексей Логинов wrote: > I translated, but no effect. xdf001.png: For the FPC text FPC must be localized and probably the MSEide error message parser must be adapted (not recommended). xdf003.png: The gdb stringconstants will be reloaded from ationsmo.c (git master 354dc3d93fced5972d22d3a5176c81c012abf9df. git master d5c2640a10417974238169509716eb6a7bfece53 has a new stock caption xdf004.png: sc_is_modified_save, please report the translation in lib/common/kernel/mseconsts_ru.pas. xdf005.png: the captions in actionsmo.c are used as defaults in an empty project, you need translated project templates. Please check 'Project'-'Options'-'Templates'-'New File' and 'New Form'. xdf006.png: This is lib/common/designutils/msesettings.pas. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Saturday 22 December 2012 00:24:27 Алексей Логинов wrote: > To add space beetween buttons (xdf002.png). Where is this? I'd like to make the layout variable. > What must I select (xdf007.png)? rfk_module. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Error when compilling: mseconsts_de.pas(88,3) Fatal: String exceeds line Fatal: Compilation aborted -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
I can not translate if select rfk_module (xdf008.png, xdf009.png, xdf010.png): apps/ide/breakpointsform.mfm apps/ide/componentstore.mfm apps/ide/findinfilepage.mfm apps/ide/mseparamentryform.mfm apps/ide/projectoptionsform.mfm apps/ide/sourcepage.mfm apps/ide/symbolform.mfm apps/ide/templateeditor.mfm apps/ide/watchform.mfm apps/ide/watchpointsform.mfm lib/common/designutils/msestringlisteditor.mfm lib/common/designutils/msetexteditor.mfm -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Saturday 22 December 2012 12:33:05 Алексей Логинов wrote: > Error when compilling: > mseconsts_de.pas(88,3) Fatal: String exceeds line > Fatal: Compilation aborted > Please try again with git master f9a58f898ef26dc280a3ef8cc24877598cfffbba. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Saturday 22 December 2012 12:41:18 Алексей Логинов wrote: > I can not translate if select rfk_module (xdf008.png, xdf009.png, > xdf010.png): apps/ide/breakpointsform.mfm > apps/ide/componentstore.mfm > apps/ide/findinfilepage.mfm > apps/ide/mseparamentryform.mfm > apps/ide/projectoptionsform.mfm > apps/ide/sourcepage.mfm > apps/ide/symbolform.mfm > apps/ide/templateeditor.mfm > apps/ide/watchform.mfm > apps/ide/watchpointsform.mfm > lib/common/designutils/msestringlisteditor.mfm > lib/common/designutils/msetexteditor.mfm > The png's are missing in your message. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
It's from prev. messages. You saw it and asked to write steps. I wrote steps: can not translate many forms in list. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Saturday 22 December 2012 14:40:45 Алексей Логинов wrote: > It's from prev. messages. You saw it and asked to write steps. I wrote > steps: can not translate many forms in list. > Got it, the new name clause in collection items. Please try again with MSEi18n from git master 7e937197b0341b96b67f9e63ef06af4069f269b7. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Thank you very much, Martin. Now it's better. Now I want to translate resourcestrings for tool MSEi18n also. Will you save flag NT in csv file for import/export, because I lost this information? -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
I can not translate projecttreeform. After translation, mseide can not close, I must use KILL. This mseide wrote in console when I choose Close program (without KILL): mseide-msegui An unhandled exception occurred at $082722B0 : EAccessViolation : Access violation $082722B0 $081C0873 $081C0100 $081BD86C $081BD1DD $08277E18 $0805AE72 $08220BBC $08E3 $080762C0 $0807523C $081049EE $0826F61B $082747DE $0805AE72 $0805AE72 $0805AE72 An unhandled exception occurred at $00C8C8C8 : An unhandled exception occurred at $B74199C9 : -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Translated constants for Russian. --- mseconsts_ru.pas.orig 2012-12-22 15:24:44.0 +0400 +++ mseconsts_ru.pas 2012-12-22 19:57:21.917052310 +0400 @@ -79,18 +79,18 @@ // hotkeys/// #1042#1077#1088#1085#1091#1090#1100 , //sc_Undohk => Vernut` - '&Redo', //sc_Redohk // // + 'П#1086#1074#1090#1086#1088', //sc_Redohk => Povtor// // #1057#1082#1086#1087#1080#1088#1086#1074#1072#1090#1100 , //sc_Copyhk=> Skopirovat` #1042#1099#1088#1077#1079#1072#1090#1100 , //sc_Cuthk => Vyrezat` #1042#1089#1090#1072#1074#1080#1090#1100 , ///sc_Pastehk=> Vstavit` - '&Insert Row',//sc_insert_rowhk /// // - '&Append Row',//sc_append_rowhk // hotkeys // - '&Delete Row',//sc_delete_rowhk /// /// + '&'#1042#1089#1090#1072#1074#1080#1090#1100' '#1089#1090#1088#1086#1082#1091,//sc_insert_rowhk => Vstavit' stroku /// // + '&'#1044#1086#1073#1072#1074#1080#1090#1100' '#1089#1090#1088#1086#1082#1091,//sc_append_rowhk => Dobavit' stroku // hotkeys // + '&'#1059#1076#1072#1083#1080#1090#1100' '#1089#1090#1088#1086#1082#1091,//sc_delete_rowhk => Udalit' stroku/// /// // hotkeys/// '&'#1050#1072#1090#1072#1083#1086#1075 ,//sc_Dirhk => Katalog - '&Home',//sc_homehk // + '&'#1044#1086#1084'.',//sc_homehk => Dom. // '&'#1042#1074#1077#1088#1093 , //sc_Uphk => Vverh '&'#1053#1086#1074'. '#1082#1072#1090'-'#1075 , //sc_New_dirhk => Nov. kat-g #1053#1072'&'#1079#1074#1072#1085#1080#1077 , //sc_Namehk => Nazvanie @@ -109,7 +109,7 @@ #1091#1078#1077' '#1077#1089#1090#1100', '+ #1087#1077#1088#1077#1079#1072#1087#1080#1089#1072#1090#1100'?' , //sc_exists_overwrite - 'is modified. Save?', //sc_is_modified_save + #1084#1086#1076#1080#1092#1080#1094#1080#1088#1086#1074#1072#1085'. '#1057#1086#1093#1088#1072#1085#1080#1090#1100'?', //sc_is_modified_save #1055#1056#1045#1044#1059#1055#1056#1045#1046#1044#1045#1053#1048#1045 , //sc_warningupper #1054#1064#1048#1041#1050#1040 ,//sc_errorupper @@ -148,36 +148,36 @@ //sc_Confirmation #1059#1076#1072#1083#1080#1090#1100' '#1079#1072#1087#1080#1089#1100'?', //sc_Delete_record_question - 'Close page', //sc_close_page - 'First', //sc_first - 'Prior', //sc_prior - 'Next', //sc_next - 'Last', //sc_last - 'Append', //sc_append - 'Delete', //sc_delete - 'Edit', //sc_edit - 'Post', //sc_post - 'Cancel', //sc_cancel - 'Refresh',//sc_refresh - 'Edit filter',//sc_filter_filter - 'Edit filter minimum',//sc_edit_filter_min - 'Edit filter maximum',//sc_filter_edit_max - 'Filter on', //sc_filter_on - 'Search', //sc_search - 'Auto edit', //sc_autoedit - 'Copy record',//sc_copy_record - 'Copy record?', //sc_Copy_record_question - 'Dialog', //sc_dialog - 'Insert', //sc_insert - 'Copy', //sc_copy - 'Filter off', //sc_filter_off - 'Portrait', //sc_portrait print orientation - 'Landscape', //sc_landscape print orientation - 'Delete row?',//sc_Delete_row_question - 'selected rows?', //sc_selected_rows - 'Single item only',//sc_Single_item_only - 'Copy Cells', //sc_Copy_Cells - 'Paste Cells' //sc_Paste_Cells + #1047#1072#1082#1088#1099#1090#1100#32#1089#1090#1088#1072#1085#1080#1094#1091, //sc_close_page + #1057#1085#1072#1095#1072#1083#1072, //sc_first + #1055#1088#1080#1086#1088, //sc_prior + #1044#1072#1083#1077#1077, //sc_next + #1053#1072#1079#1072#1076, //sc_last + #1044#1086#1073#1072#1074#1080#1090#1100, //sc_append + #1059#1076#1072#1083#1080#1090#1100, //sc_delete + #1055#1088#1072#1074#1080#1090#1100, //sc_edit + #1055#1086#1089#1083#1077, //sc_post + #1054#1090#1084#1077#1085#1072, //sc_cancel + #1054#1073#1085#1086#1074#1080#1090#1100,//sc_refresh + #1048#1079#1084#1077#1085#1080#1090#1100' '#1092#1080#1083#1100#1090#1088,//sc_filter_filter + #1048#1079#1084#1077#1085#1080#1090#1100' '#1084#1080#1085'. '#1092#1080#1083#1100#1090#1088 ,//sc_edit_filter_min + #1048#1079#1084#1077#1085#1080#1090#1100' '#1084#1072#1082#1089'. '#1092#1080#108
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Wow, realy russian IDE ! The great work, Alexey :) 2012/12/23, Алексей Логинов : > Translated constants for Russian. > -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
You can take current translation work from ftp://ftp.mageialinux.ru/mageia2/SRPMS/ always. Now it is mseide-msegui-2.8.4.1-2.mrc.mga2.src.rpm Ivanko B, please correct errors in translation. I saved all in scv files also. Now I'm waiting answer from Martin and I'll continue translation. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Saturday 22 December 2012 22:00:44 Алексей Логинов wrote: > I can not translate projecttreeform. After translation, mseide can not > close, I must use KILL. > This mseide wrote in console when I choose Close program (without KILL): > mseide-msegui > An unhandled exception occurred at $082722B0 : > EAccessViolation : Access violation Please try again with git master 64af9c7d13858f3de233cbd06f6108c10668d346. PS: Please call loadlangunit() *before* creating the forms by application.createform()/createdatamodule(), probably much less problems and faster startup. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Monday 24 December 2012 10:15:26 Алексей Логинов wrote: > You can take current translation work from > ftp://ftp.mageialinux.ru/mageia2/SRPMS/ always. > Now it is mseide-msegui-2.8.4.1-2.mrc.mga2.src.rpm > Ivanko B, please correct errors in translation. I saved all in scv files > also. Now I'm waiting answer from Martin and I'll continue translation. > Which answer? Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
> Ivanko B, please correct errors in translation. I saved all in scv files > also. Done, see the attachment. mseide_ru.rar Description: application/rar -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
What does string "syntax definition file" means: syntax definition for file or file, which contains syntax definition? -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Monday 24 December 2012 14:37:31 Алексей Логинов wrote: > What does string "syntax definition file" means: > syntax definition for file or file, which contains syntax definition? > The file which contains the syntax definition used by the highlighter for files that match the listed 'File Mask'. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Thank's, Martin and Ivanko B. Now I translated projecttreeform also - now it works OK. Now I don't need to save NT flag in csv file - I rewrite building for rpm. But not all strings were translated (some pictures I sent in prev. messages). I'll wait all resourcestrings in tstringcontainer for MSEide and for MSEi18n. Please, add space (see picture). <>-- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Леш, где имена файлов и каталогов - там замени "Название" на "Имя". А в общем - классная работа :) -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Monday 24 December 2012 15:41:47 Алексей Логинов wrote: > Thank's, Martin and Ivanko B. > Now I translated projecttreeform also - now it works OK. > Now I don't need to save NT flag in csv file - I rewrite building for rpm. > But not all strings were translated (some pictures I sent in prev. > messages). Please read my previous answer. > I'll wait all resourcestrings in tstringcontainer for MSEide and > for MSEi18n. I will not internationalise MSEi18n, please read my previous answer. > Please, add space (see picture). I already asked two times: Which dialog is it? Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
> Please read my previous answer I read, but I did not find information. > I will not internationalise MSEi18n I'll use command "sed" and MSEi18n won't speak English in repo, only Russian. But Russian will be full. I'll use "sed" for all not translated strings, because I don't see another solution. > Which dialog is it? All dialogs. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Monday 24 December 2012 17:36:48 Алексей Логинов wrote: > > Please read my previous answer > > I read, but I did not find information. > Then please repeat the png numbers which are not answered yet. > > I will not internationalise MSEi18n > > I'll use command "sed" and MSEi18n won't speak English in repo, only > Russian. But Russian will be full. I'll use "sed" for all not > translated strings, because I don't see another solution. > Don't translate MSEi18n. > > Which dialog is it? > > All dialogs. > I assume it is the stock file dialog which had exchanged oncreate <> onloaded. Please try again with git master 071bfad8bc5587d281210082cbb57f6b9955b2ff. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
> Please try again with git master 071bfad8bc5587d281210082cbb57f6b9955b2ff Effect is in only MSEi18n, but no effect in MSEide. Dialogs: Open, Save. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Monday 24 December 2012 18:34:54 Алексей Логинов wrote: > > Please try again with git master 071bfad8bc5587d281210082cbb57f6b9955b2ff > > Effect is in only MSEi18n, but no effect in MSEide. Dialogs: Open, Save. > Works for me, see attachment. lib/common/dialogs/msefiledialog.mfm should not be in translation project because it uses mseconsts. If you translate it enyway don't forget to remake the MSEi18n project for MSEide. Martin <>-- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Yes. I excluded msefiledialog.mfm from translation project. It decided problem. Please, put all resourcestrings in MSEi18n in tstringcontainers also. For you - it is an hour for working, but If I will use "sed", then I can not support all new version mseide-msegui, only one time in year, because I have many package for maintaining. Please, understand me. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Monday 24 December 2012 19:23:40 Алексей Логинов wrote: > Yes. I excluded msefiledialog.mfm from translation project. It decided > problem. Please, put all resourcestrings in MSEi18n in tstringcontainers > also. For you - it is an hour for working, but If I will use "sed", then I > can not support all new version mseide-msegui, only one time in year, > because I have many package for maintaining. Please, understand me. > I do not understand why MSEi18n should be internationalized. Also internationalizing MSEide has its drawbacks, for example before the translation one could google for MSEide error messages and found all occurrences. It is not possible anymore now. Anyway, I'll internationalize MSEi18n if you then still insist after we can read the first two chapters of the Russian MSEide+MSEgui book, please read my answer in a previous mail. ;-) Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
First I need full translation for MSEide and for MSEi18n. It's too difficult to write Russian documentation without Russian interface and without English documentation. Now interface was half translated. Please, continue to help to translate and to put all resourcestrings in tsringcontainer. Do you like if you don't understand Russian to work in Russian interface program? But you want English for Russians, who don't speak English. I'm so sad. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Tuesday 25 December 2012 09:11:37 Алексей Логинов wrote: > First I need full translation for MSEide and for MSEi18n. It's too > difficult to write Russian documentation without Russian interface and > without English documentation. Now interface was half translated. > Please, continue to help to translate and to put all resourcestrings > in tsringcontainer. > Do you like if you don't understand Russian to work in Russian > interface program? But you want English for Russians, who don't speak > English. I'm so sad. > MSEi18n is an internal tool used by professionals only. Please first concentrate on MSEide. If I see that because of the internationalized MSEide there will be good documentation, I will internationalize MSEi18n, MSEgit, MSEspice and other MSE-tools too. OK? Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
All programs must support many languages and all programs, written in mseide+msegui. MSEi18n is not for professional only. I want to translate MSEi18n and MSEide and concentrate on both. You must understand, popularity will be only if program support many languages (geany, lazarus). Your project is not popular because no support many languages and too difficult to ask author to help to translate only MSEi18n and MSEide. I tried and get tired to ask 5 mounth. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
http://www.freepascal.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5531 This article how to use lazarus instead mseide, but to use msegui. Why does not users want to use mseide? Answer: no localization, no autocompletion, Code Tools. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
But you want English for Russians, who don't speak English. I'm so sad. === Martin, russians reeally don't like learning foreign languages (and the English may even be considered as an enemy's language), most of us simply don't need them at all. PS: Although the Pascal statements & library calls are in English anyway :) -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
no autocompletion, Code Tools. === It means "they look for a reason why not to program" :) -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Tuesday 25 December 2012 12:27:01 Ivanko B wrote: > But you want English for Russians, who don't speak > English. I'm so sad. > === > Martin, russians reeally don't like learning foreign languages (and > the English may even be considered as an enemy's language), most of us > simply don't need them at all. > ??? Why are they able to program in Pascal and to use MSEgui then? I will internationalize MSEi18n when we can read the first two chapters of a good Russian book about MSEide+MSEgui, please accept it. I don't expect the book starts with the MSEi18n tool. ;-) And then I will obligate you with the same insistence to translate the Russian book to English. :-) Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Please, continue to translate. While I have some times I must end translation. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
And then I will obligate you with the same insistence to translate the Russian book to English. :-) = Doesn't look a big trouble since GoogleTranslate can do 90% of the work provided that the russian text follows the strong english grammatic (written in russian but with english in mind - me always try doing that if possible). The most valuable substantion is content :) -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
first two chapters of a good Russian book == "Good book" means a talanted & awared writer :) A rare "bird" :) -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Why are they able to program in Pascal and to use MSEgui then? Not a problem to remember 50..100 keywors as parrots do. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Tuesday 25 December 2012 17:07:30 Алексей Логинов wrote: > Please, continue to translate. While I have some times I must end > translation. > I will not translate MSEi18n at the moment please read previous messages. Please repeat what is missing in MSEide translation? Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Tuesday 25 December 2012 20:02:56 Ivanko B wrote: > Why are they able to program in Pascal and to use MSEgui then? > > Not a problem to remember 50..100 keywors as parrots do. > That definitely is not enough for MSEgui. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
Wow, some of these messages are issued by an external program (GDB). -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Wednesday 26 December 2012 13:45:51 Алексей Логинов wrote: Already answered in my mail from 20112-12-23: " > On Saturday 22 December 2012 22:21:11 Алексей Логинов wrote: > > xdf011.png: not translated > > Moved to actionsmo.pas. > > > xdf012.png: to add space beetween buttons > > Which dialog is it? > > > xdf013.png: not translated > > A gdb message. Please do not localize gdb, the gdb output is parsed by > MSEide. If you do it anyway, I will *not* change MSEide! > > > xdf014.png: not translated > > A gdb message. > > > xdf015.png: global problem for all translated strings - program must > > use length of translated strings, because many translated strings were > > cut. > > Where is it? This is a boolean column with a fixed width, please use > another translation. > > > xdf016.png: not translated > > As designed, should not be translated. > > > xdf017.png: not translated > > As designed, should not be translated. > > > xdf018.png: not translated > > MSEi18n will not be internationalized, I don't think it is necessary. First > we want to read the first two chapters of the MSEide+MSEgui book. ;-) > > > xdf019.png: not translated > > See above. > > > xdf020.png: to use translated strings by default, because all of them > > have Russian translation. > > The menu items 'File'-'New' are not in MSEide source but > in 'Project'-'Options'-'Templates'. In source are default values > for 'Project'-'New'-'Empty' only. Please adapt your project template files. > > Martin " > xdf015.png - to add more length for strings " Where is it? This is a boolean column with a fixed width, please use another translation. " > xdf022.png - not translated " The menu items 'File'-'New' are not in MSEide source but in 'Project'-'Options'-'Templates'. In source are default values for 'Project'-'New'-'Empty' only. Please adapt your project template files. " > xdf023.png - not translated " As designed, should not be translated. " > xdf024.png - not translated " A gdb message. Please do not localize gdb, the gdb output is parsed by MSEide. If you do it anyway, I will *not* change MSEide! " > > xdf025.png - not translated " A gdb message. " New issues: > xdf026.png - not translated I think exception messages should not be translated so we have a single signature to search by Google. > xdf027.png - not translated This probably is an exception message for FPC RTL. > If to delete prev. project, then "Access violation" - it's bug. What are the steps to reproduce? Thanks, Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
xdf023.png, xdf026.png, xdf027.png - captions can be translated xdf026.png, xdf027.png - better to translate, many people have no Internet. gdb messages we must not translate. > What are the steps to reproduce? - to open MSEide - to create new project - to close MSEide - to delete project, which was created by MSEide - to open MSEide - to see "Access violation" -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Wednesday 26 December 2012 15:22:43 Алексей Логинов wrote: > xdf023.png, xdf026.png, xdf027.png - captions can be translated Captions moved to mseconsts and actionsmo.c, git master cb2a9acc24db8cce157be85b9ce605fe26ba4e4b. > xdf026.png, xdf027.png - better to translate, many people have no Internet. xdf027.png is for m FPC-RTL. > > What are the steps to reproduce? > > - to open MSEide > - to create new project > - to close MSEide > - to delete project, which was created by MSEide Delete the *.prj file? > - to open MSEide > - to see "Access violation" > Works for me, no access violation, MSEide shows in main window caption. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
> Delete the *.prj file? Yes -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Wednesday 26 December 2012 17:34:35 Алексей Логинов wrote: > > Delete the *.prj file? > > Yes > Can not reproduce the problem. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
- to delete $HOME/.mseide - to open MSEide - to create new project - from default.prj - to close MSEide - to delete project (with *.prj), which was created by MSEide - to open MSEide - to see "Access violation" and double "ERROR" -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
On Wednesday 26 December 2012 17:50:36 Алексей Логинов wrote: > - to delete $HOME/.mseide > - to open MSEide > - to create new project - from default.prj > - to close MSEide > - to delete project (with *.prj), which was created by MSEide > - to open MSEide > - to see "Access violation" and double "ERROR" > Can not reproduce. Martin -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] MSEide+MSEgui 2.8.4
I can not reproduce without libi18n_ru.so also, but with libi18n_ru.so I reproduce always. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mseide-msegui-talk
