Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Static on playback
Is there anything I can do to get these DACs working properly with ALSA/MPD? Have you tried those DACs with other music players, such as ogg123, Rhythmbox, etc... ? Stefan -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Static on playback
Voyage MPD contains a patched version of MPD, however the project does not provide the source code. Isn't that a violation of MPD's license (which is GPLv2+, IIRC)? Stefan -- CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For Critical Workloads, Development Environments Everything In Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] MPD + uClibc: connection but no response on port 6600
Finally I got mpd working on this arm9 board. I tried different versions of uClibc, glib2, gettext, mpd and with IPV4 and IPv6 but nothing worked. Only after replacing uClibc by glibc, the probem was solved. mpd was working fine under OpenWRT, and that uses uclibc by default, so you might like to take a look at their build rule, in case it uses local patches or something. Stefan -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60135991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] FW: Question about MPD ALSA output bitrate
Those MP3s were created from 16 bit data, but once that data has been transformed to the frequency domain as part of the encoding process, that bit depth ceases to matter. In mpd's case, the MP3s are decoded as 28 bits by libmad, and truncated to 24 bits. This results in theoretically lower distortion than truncating or dithering that output to 16 bits. In your case, by forcing 16 bit output with MP3 you are getting more distortion. That reminds me: when the signal needs to be resampled because the output's sample rate doesn't match the file's sample rate (typical case for me: 44.1KHz CD input and an audio card that only supports 48KHz), would it be possible to do the resampling directly in the frequency domain as part of the MP3/Ogg decoding? It seems like it would be cheaper (CPU wise) and result in higher quality than using a separate resampling phase after decoding. Stefan -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI, OpenMP, advanced profiling, and more. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60134791iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Duration of song with millisecond info?
Yes, seconds is enough accuracy. Especially for large playlists! It depends on 2 things: - whether you care about absolute error or relative error (the relative error will not increase with the number of sings, but the absolute error might). - whether each error is biased. The second point is important: is the number of seconds reported rounded or truncated? If it is rounded, then the relative error is likely to diminish with the number of songs, but if it is truncated it won't. Stefan -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] [OT?] MPRIS and MPD
http://gmpc.wikia.com/wiki/MPD_INSTALL_USER_SERVICE_UBUNTU seems to be the best way to run mpd on systems with pulseaudio. My use case is a machine where we usually have 3 users logged in at the same time (on different virtual terminals), so that's not a good solution. Another option is setting up the system wide pulseaudio daemon (and it's possible to use mpdris to control/monitor an MPD instance running remotely, which still applies even without any hoop-jumping). The pulseaudio's why you shouldn't use system wide PA seems to apply to my case, so I'd rather not go there either. (Yet another possibility which I didn't think of before is setting up pulseaudio cookies for the mpd user and any real users that might need sound at the same time as mpd) That's still basically a system-wide setup, then (where you share a single PA instance between different users). Basically, from reading PA's documentation, I think the ideal setup for me would have one PA process per user, and and then combine the result via some kind of additional layer (ALSA dmix or somesuch, I don't know, nor would I know how to set up such a thing). Stefan -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
[Musicpd-dev-team] OffTopic (was: Replay gain support)
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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] OffTopic
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Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] More flexible OS X output
opportunity to contribute something. Specifically, I'm setting up a retired G4 PowerBook as a living-room music server using mpd to feed an external USB DAC. And I've found that mpd's OS X output plugin isn't quite as flexible as I like: there's no way to specify which audio device to use. This is no big deal if everything runs the An easy solution is to install something like Debian on that machine (which, contrary to OS X, still supports this hardware). Stefan -- Lotusphere 2011 Register now for Lotusphere 2011 and learn how to connect the dots, take your collaborative environment to the next level, and enter the era of Social Business. http://p.sf.net/sfu/lotusphere-d2d ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
[Musicpd-dev-team] Computed playlists
I want to listen to a radio whose URL changes on a fairly regular basis. The way it's meant to be used is via a browser, so there's a stable URL that brings up a player that then streams from a dynamic URL. I can easily extract the URL of the actual stream via some wget/curl and a little sed script. What would be the best way to get this working in MPD? Stefan -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] webclient phpMp
I do agree that there are way too many web clients out there with no clear choices at all, and providing a single one is a great goal. Most of the differences you suggest between clients I think should eventually be simply multiple configurations of a single client - single sites can have mobile/normal versions, simple and power interface, etc. Collecting together into a single repo and ultimately merging is probably a reasonable approach - as long as it's clear that's the intent, not simply to manage many different clients in one place. I tried a bunch of web-clients and my choice was basically determined by: - resource usage (all the ajax-based clients I tried seemed better maintained and spiffier, but my web-and-mpd-server has only 64MB and 266MHz to do its work, and those clients feel sluggish on such hardware). - of the remaining clients (non-ajax), only one of them (one of the phpMp ones) turned out to survive a simple usability test without burping all over the place. So, what I'd like to see is a phpMp-consolidated which would provide lightweight and reliable operation, while including a bit more features than the phpMp I'm using now (the one I'm using can't be browsed by artist or genre or album, but only via the directory hierarchy or via the `search' field). Stefan PS: Can't remember if I mentioned it already, but my MPC.el Emacs-based client will be included in the upcoming Emacs-23.2. -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] webclient phpMp
there are some smaller issues in the webclient. however i am going to maintain it, if nobody cares. i pulled the source as of version ver 0.11.0 (2004/6/18) to http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpmpreloaded/ the issues itself: - there is a deprecated function split in it. it could be substituted by explode in any cases. - the variable $mcount is uninitialized; so i added $mcount = array(); - there seems to be a change in communication so $mcount needs to be set to zero although count($lsinfo[music]) is non zero i fixed the issues on |git://phpmpreloaded.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/phpmpreloaded/phpmpreloaded additionally i also pulled the following versions and will maintain them - phpMp2 0.11.0 - phpMp+ 0.2.3 As a (long time) user of one of them (not sure which, now), that sounds very good. But could you clarify how your phpmpreloaded relates to phpmp, phpmp+, phpmp3, phpmp3, ...? E.g. Is it a superset of all of them? Stefan -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
[Musicpd-dev-team] General transition options (was: MPD Crossfading (overlap) Question)
I'd rather have is what the Foobar Continuator plug-in (which is hard to find ) does -- which is overlap and (lightly) fade in the next song at the end of the previous song. Any suggestions on how to get this behavior in MPD? I too dislike crossfading and I started the MixRamp project on sourceforge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mixramp) to try to get music players to adopt a tagged based approach to doing intelligent transitions. There's another take on it: I generally don't want fading and generally like gapfree playing (I typically listen to whole albums so transitions and gaps are a built-in part of the flac files), but I really would like to add a gap between albums. I suspect that something similar might hold for fading, where some transitions will benefit from it while others won't. Stefan -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Database editing
Thanks for your prompt answer. I am sorry manual editing is not possible, I really would like to separate the information from the sound file. BTW mpd can deal with at least one soundfile format (.wav) which does not support tagging. It should not be too difficult to write a program to merge two database files one produced by mpd extracting information from the tags and one with additional information. Will take a look at that. You could probably let the tagging info come from some external file(s) rather than from the song files and use that when building the database. Stefan -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] server to server connection
That's the point though. Why introduce this complexity when it's unnecessary? Let's state a much simpler way without complicating how things currently work. I agree that the underlying functionality is already provided in enough ways. But maybe MPD could provide a bit of help here and there to make it easier to setup such a thing with a minimum of extra configuration. E.g. if you want to access the filesystem currently you end up having to read MPD's config file (which may be pretty tricky to find: list processes running, guess which one is the mpd you care about, extract the config file name from the command line). Here MPD could help by providing this config info via a command. That would also help clients which want to access the song-database to find album covers. Stefan -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] mixer-based replaygain
A while back I suggested having replaygain operate on a mixer: http://www.mail-archive.com/musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net/msg2.html Is anyone still interested in this? I'm definitely interested: my poor jukebox can play Ogg just fine, but the software mixer needed for replaygain is too much for its CPU (the code probably uses floating point or something), so I end up having to turn off replaygain and adjust the volume manually. Stefan -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
[Musicpd-dev-team] Revived MPC.el package
I'm happy to announce that MPC.el is alive and well. You can download the latest revision via Bazaar: bzr co http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~monnier/bzr/mpc It's still not polished, by a long shot, but it finally has a feature-set which I think makes it respectable. In short, it's a MPD client running in Emacs, which presents as its main UI a browser inspired by the one in Rhythmbox: a frame is divided into an area showing info about the currently playing song, a bunch of tagbrowsers show the list of album/artist/younameit (you can browse by any tag supported by MPD) and a songs list which lists the songs that obey your selection of album/artist/... The unique part of it is that among the tags supported are 3 special tags (additionally to the ones provided by MPD): - playlists - directories - search patterns So you can easily ask to see in the songs list all the songs that match a particular pattern, and that are mentioned in a particular set of playlists, and that are stored in a particular set of directories, ... You can create new playlists, drag'n'drop elements to playlists. Contrary to many other MPD clients, the playlist does not play such a central role: e.g. you can select an album and just press play (which of course will first add it to the playlist). And if you press stop (rather than pause), the playlist will be automatically cleared. I've been using my own MPD client in Emacs for a long time now. It stayed fairly limited in features most of this time, basically tailored to my own particular use habits: basically I use it to quickly browse through my collection of albums, and then play whichever album I feel like listening. Among other things I never use playlists. But after all this time, I still haven't found an MPD client that gives me the same browsing-power, so I figured it would be worthwhile to make it useful to wider audience. As mentioned, it's still rough around the edges. E.g. some of the mouse bindings are problematic, some of the commands don't even have any bindings, the drag'n'drop doesn't give any visual feedback before the drag'n'drop is actually done, ... Also it's very lightly tested, and only with my particular configuration. But I think the featureset is now ripe, so I need user-feedback. Please try it out, and complain. W.r.t compatibility, it's known to work with MPD-0.14 and not to work with MPD-0.12. Not sure about MPD-0.13. In the past someone got it to work with Emacs-21, but many things have changed since, so I wouldn't count on it. It should work on Emacs-23, and if it doesn't work on Emacs-22, it should be easy to fix. Stefan -- Come build with us! The BlackBerryreg; Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9#45;12, 2009. Register now#33; http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] [PATCH] ncmpc: Adjustable seek time
Of course, for Emacsers, the N/B pair is an odd-couple as well. The N is usually paired with P, and B with F. Stefan -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] mpd uclinux branch is not available
checking the 0.15.1 release, it seems you have deleted the fork and the multi-thread is now fulfilled by glib thread but not pthread, so it is not useful to me yet since we are using uclibc. AFAIK glib works on uclibc just as well as on glibc. Stefan -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Database backend
Asking mpd to do an 'update' on its music directory has never completed for me - on an NFS-mounted 100GB+ music library. This points to a real problem that needs to be fixed. My library is about the same size, tho it likely has far fewer files (I keep it all in Flac format), but I've never had such problems updating the database (I mostly do it locally on a 64MB machine, but I've also done it over NFS/wifi several times). It may take a couple minutes, on small machines or slow networks but nowhere near what you're talking about. Maybe you're just experiencing a bug/misfeature that can be easily fixed. Stefan -- Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! For a limited time, vendors submitting new applications to BlackBerry App World(TM) will have the opportunity to enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge. See full prize details at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/Challenge ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] MPD on Network Media Tank
After some discussion and GPL study it seems it is not breaking any license it is just linked to a closed source system library. [...] You MUST NOT distribute MPD linked with proprietary code. The GPL does not allow that. I do not know much about NMT, but from the looks of it, Ger might indeed have the right to port MPD to NMT and link against NMT's own closed libraries as long as these are system libraries. Of course he still needs to distribute the source code of his MPD port and things like that, but at least, I don't think the GPL make it fundamentally illegal to distribute an NMT port of MPD. In any case, there's not much anybody can do either way: the license has already been decided a long time ago and as you say, there are too many contributors to be able to change the license. So Ger needs to consult a lawyer rather than this mailing-list ;-) Stefan -- Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge This is your chance to win up to $100,000 in prizes! For a limited time, vendors submitting new applications to BlackBerry App World(TM) will have the opportunity to enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge. See full prize details at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/Challenge ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Best Sinc Interpolator
Maybe the sound chip has a fixed sample rate, and plugs a poor hardware resampler in front of it. That's what I assumed, yes, otherwise his report makes no sense. Stefan -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Stuttering/skips
Then maybe I should report a bug: if I don't start mpd with nice -10, I get skips on a regular basis, and it becomes unbearable as soon as I run other things in the background (typically rsync-over-ssh since I use the same box for my backups). I didn't report it since nice -10 fixed it, and such things just seem fairly normal to me (tho, maybe mpd should/could do the nice 10 itself when run as root). Only a real-time kernel can guarantee that MPD doesn't skip (provided that the hardware is fast enough). Linux is not a real-time OS. What we do on Linux is use large buffers, and hope that there will never be a delay longer than our buffer size. If other processes take so much CPU or induce much latency (by blocking disk I/O, e.g.), MPD can not compensate, and you hear skips. In that case, increase MPD's scheduler priority (negative nice level) to reduce the probability. That was my reasoning indeed. The machine is seriously underpowered (266MHz, MPD takes about 20-30% CPU when playing an Ogg song) and its 64MB makes it swap fairly heavily when large rsync processes are running. Of course, that rule of thumb is too easy for the real world. There may be bugs in MPD which increase the probability of skips, and there may be a lot of room for optimization. We will attempt to optimize when we can measure such problems on a test system. During the 0.15 development, MPD's internal latency has been reduced by orders of magnitude, most of that with the implementation of reference counted pages. Which MPD version were you using, Stefan? I've seen such skips with both 0.13 and 0.14. Haven't tried 0.15, but really I don't think it's unreasonable to require nice -10 in such circumstances. Stefan -- ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] New HTTP streaming output plugin
Last I heard, the HTTP protocol did have any special provision for audio content, so what protocol does it actually use? It aims to be compatible to shoutcast. Good, thanks. PS: While we're adding ways to send the songs out (to visualizers, and other such things)...: when are MPD clients going to be able to download songs (so an MPD client can download them to an MP3 player)? Similar to this feature request? http://musicpd.org/mantis/view.php?id=1924 Nobody is currently working on an implementation of that. Kind of, except it doesn't need UPnD or DLNA, just a new command download file. I had sent a sample patch that provided this command a long time ago. My implementation was purposefully naive, so that it could be used to download any file from the `music' subdirectories (and `playlist', tho this part is not needed any more now that we have listplaylistinfo), which I abused in my MPC.el client to also download files like dir/cover.jpg. Stefan -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
[Musicpd-dev-team] New download command (was: New HTTP streaming output plugin)
Kind of, except it doesn't need UPnD or DLNA, just a new command download file. I had sent a sample patch that provided this command a long time ago. My implementation was purposefully naive, so that it could be used to download any file from the `music' subdirectories (and `playlist', tho this part is not needed any more now that we have listplaylistinfo), which I abused in my MPC.el client to also download files like dir/cover.jpg. I have two problems with that concept: - big danger of security problems, of course. Easy to solve: only allow downloads of song-files. Tho, allowing reading any file under the `music' directory would be perfectly safe for my setup, and I expect it would also be perfectly safe for most people's. Of course you'd want to be careful with ... - the MPD protocol is UTF-8/line based. No problem here: just encode the data somehow to make it fit, or use a separate connection (more problematic but more efficient), or ... The world of possible solutions is wide open. But maybe we can make this part of the HTTP server (move the httpd code into MPD core, and let the httpd output plugin mount itself as a special case)? As long as I can download while MPD is playing some other song, that'd be probably be OK. I understand that album cover management is an interesting feature request for MPD. I have been thinking about adding some sort of binary stickers for images, lyrics, ... Yes, my sample implementation covered a whole bunch of different features, by providing dirty low-level access. But there's no need to do it this way (it was just easier for me to implement and saved several problems at once). One aspect is just download a song from MPD so I can stuff it into my portable Ogg player, this may need/want to worry about re-encoding the song in a different format (e.g. I keep my music in Flac but like to reencode it into Ogg-96Kb/s before stuffing it into my Ogg player), but that can left to the client for now. Stefan -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
[Musicpd-dev-team] New download command (was: New HTTP streaming output plugin)
Kind of, except it doesn't need UPnD or DLNA, just a new command download file. I had sent a sample patch that provided this command a long time ago. My implementation was purposefully naive, so that it could be used to download any file from the `music' subdirectories (and `playlist', tho this part is not needed any more now that we have listplaylistinfo), which I abused in my MPC.el client to also download files like dir/cover.jpg. Why in the hell would anyone want their music player to become a network filesystem protocol? I hope this never comes to fruition and Thanks for bashing my implementation (which I didn't write to submit it for inclusion, but because I needed to solve an actual problem). Now, what do you think about my feature request (which can be implemented in many different ways)? Stefan -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
Re: [Musicpd-dev-team] Empty fields
Was that change made on purpose, or is it accidental? I guess this is due to the difference between no genre specified and genre specified, it's an empty string. Do you have one or more files which have an empty string defined there? I don't think distinguishing between there's an empty tag and there's no tag is a good idea. As for whether it's a good idea to show such (empty or missing) tags in the output of list, I can see why it'd be useful, but it breaks my MPC.el client (not in a serious way, mind you). Which is why I'm asking here: depending on the answer I'll fix the corresponding problem or not. Stefan -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
[Musicpd-dev-team] Empty fields
Since I upgraded to 0.14, I noticed that `list' sometimes returns empty names. E.g. list genre will return something like: ... Genre: RB Genre: Genre: Southern Rock ... In my case, such empty tag values are turned for genre, for artist, for composer, but not for album. It appears this corresponds to the fact that all my songs have an album tag, whereas some don't have any genre or composer or artist tag. Was that change made on purpose, or is it accidental? Stefan -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Musicpd-dev-team mailing list Musicpd-dev-team@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/musicpd-dev-team
