Re: Organizing mailfolders (strategies and using with mutt)
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 02:51:56PM +0200, Thorsten Haude wrote: > Hi, > > * Kai Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-11 14:32]: > >I am just reorganzing my mail sorting and filtering. I now use a > >structure like that: > > > > Mail/list/mutt-users > > Mail/list/debian-users > > Mail/mail/inbox > > Mail/mail/private > I have something similar: > Mail/in > Mail/ML/Mutt > Mail/ML/NEdit > Mail/ML/Debian/user > Mail/ML/Debian/misc > etc. Mutt's default for saving messages seems to revolve around the From address (e.g. mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] wants to save to ~/Mail/foo). Does anyone have some good ideas about how to manage their mailboxes? What happens when you have a thread involving multiple people? If you use the above example, the thread would be destroyed as you save to different folders. Is there a way to track a thread across different folders (maybe by message ids)? -- David Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt newbie and iSpell.
On Wednesday 17 April 2002 01:52, Rocco Rutte wrote: - Btw, how do you want to call your spelling checker? The key - 'i' is by default bound to ispell and you changed it to - something just setting ispell. - I just want to distinguish between "i" which is the default English dictionary (as it should be) and "I" to use the Danish iSpell dictionary that is installed on my system. - - Just to make sure, your problems appear when trying to only - set the ispell variable, right? - This is correct. Cheers, Brian
Re: List-Reply
Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote: > Michael Elkins wrote: > > Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > > How does this delete the personal copy, but not the list copy? > > Both messages will have the same Message-ID field in the header. > Actually, I think Volker was asking "Is it possible to make this > delete the personal copy but not the list copy?" -- and the answer, as > far as I know, is no. procmail/formail will delete the second one that > it sees, which is almost always going to be the list copy. the best way i've found to get around this (assuming the problem is that your personal copy is filtered differently than the list copy), is to either filter using 'TO_list@list\.com' (assuming you're using procmail), or else to create unique addresses per list, and filter messages sent to that address to a specific folder. -- Will Yardley input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . >
Re: List-Reply
--gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Michael Elkins spake thus: > Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > How does this delete the personal copy, but not the list copy? >=20 > Both messages will have the same Message-ID field in the header. Actually, I think Volker was asking "Is it possible to make this delete the personal copy but not the list copy?" -- and the answer, as far as I know, is no. procmail/formail will delete the second one that it sees, which is almost always going to be the list copy. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Now there's three things you can do in a baseball game: you can win or you can lose or it can rain. -- Casey Stengel --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8vNE/PTh2iSBKeccRAt2sAJwL+JK86hBVZ0bEYI2AmWU67w1CywCcCAnW uObL3nL55U3rm1aII52sUn8= =0Q5J -END PGP SIGNATURE- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg--
content-length: and mutt
Hi all, I've just been through some frustration finding out why mutt and kmail just don't want to cooperate (bug 41008 at bugs.kde.org). The upshot of that seems to be that Content-Length: is a non-standard extension, with RFC saying it's deprecated (if not discouraged). There's a big rant about it at http://www.netscape.com/eng/mozilla/2.0/relnotes/demo/content-length.html Emails which have Content-Length: but no "^From " quoting can't be read by clients which ignore Content-Length:, to which they're entitled to according to RFC, so it seems. The maintainer of procmail very recently didn't like Content-Length: at all either http://www.rosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de/cgi-bin/w3glimpse2html/procmail/2002-02/msg00019.html?53#mfs I don't quite follow all the arguments, but can anyone say what mutt's take on all this is? Is there any suitable method which does not use content-length: and doesn't mangle From in bodies? Also see thread "Mutt ignoring 'From ' lines in mailbox" ealier this month. Thanks, Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.orcon.net.nz Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: List-Reply
Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > How does this delete the personal copy, but not the list copy? Both messages will have the same Message-ID field in the header.
Re: List-Reply
> if the recipient is annoyed at getting two copies of the message, they > should just use the one-line procmail/formmail solution to remove duplicate > messages. How does this delete the personal copy, but not the list copy? Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.orcon.net.nz Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: Changing From: headers
Russell -- ...and then Russell A. Khurshudian said... % % want to change the From: headers depending on which domain people send me ... % Is it possible to use hooks to accomplish this? If so, how? Is there an % easier way of going about doing this, otherwise? Thanks for the help. See $alternates and $reverse_name and the archives. % % Note: I'm not subscribed to this list. Note: you should be. HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27285/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: macro problem
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: > * "Thomas E. Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 15:45:37 -0400]: > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: > > > PS: using FreeBSD 4.5 with a termcap entry based on xterm-color. > > > > FreeBSD maintainers (?) insist on using "xterm-color", though it does not > > closely match XFree86 xterm. It's an faq... > > > > http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html > > > > There is a better termcap file distributed with xterm, btw. > > I do NOT use xterm, I use putty. > > xterm-color seems to work better with putty, either with FreeBSD and > SuSE Linux. "better" isn't good enough if it's still not correct. xterm-color is a generic entry, targeted at people who either don't know what their terminal can do, or don't care much. I wrote a putty terminfo some months ago (ncurses 2007, prompted by an earlier thread). There are about 2 dozen differences between that and "xterm-color". ymmv. -- T.E.Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Changing From: headers
I have two domains registered, domain1.com and domain2.com for instance. I want to change the From: headers depending on which domain people send me email to. So if people send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], i want to reply with a From: header of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to do the same thing for domain2.com, meaning, reply with [EMAIL PROTECTED] if people send mail there. Is it possible to use hooks to accomplish this? If so, how? Is there an easier way of going about doing this, otherwise? Thanks for the help. Note: I'm not subscribed to this list.
Re: macro problem
Nicolas Rachinsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > * Michael Tatge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 20:58:08 +0200]: > > Nicolas Rachinsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > > > * Eduardo Gargiulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 14:07:07 -0300]: > > > > i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY > > > > client. > > > > > > My settings are: > > > function keys and keypad=Xterm R6 > > > > Use VT100+ > > What's better with VT100+? Everything I needed here seems to work > fine. Sorry, I mixed that up. I thought you where the one who had problems. Never change a running system. :) Michael -- "By golly, I'm beginning to think Linux really *is* the best thing since sliced bread." (By Vance Petree, Virginia Power) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: macro problem
* "Thomas E. Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 15:45:37 -0400]: > On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: > > PS: using FreeBSD 4.5 with a termcap entry based on xterm-color. > > FreeBSD maintainers (?) insist on using "xterm-color", though it does not > closely match XFree86 xterm. It's an faq... > > http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html > > There is a better termcap file distributed with xterm, btw. I do NOT use xterm, I use putty. xterm-color seems to work better with putty, either with FreeBSD and SuSE Linux. Nicolas
Re: macro problem
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: > * Michael Tatge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 20:58:08 +0200]: > > Nicolas Rachinsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > > > * Eduardo Gargiulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 14:07:07 -0300]: > > > > i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY > > > > client. > > > > > > My settings are: > > > function keys and keypad=Xterm R6 > > > > Use VT100+ > > What's better with VT100+? Everything I needed here seems to work > fine. > > Nicolas > > PS: using FreeBSD 4.5 with a termcap entry based on xterm-color. FreeBSD maintainers (?) insist on using "xterm-color", though it does not closely match XFree86 xterm. It's an faq... http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html There is a better termcap file distributed with xterm, btw. -- T.E.Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: macro problem
Nicolas Rachinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Eduardo Gargiulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 14:07:07 -0300]: > > i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY > > client. > > My settings are: > function keys and keypad=Xterm R6 > > > > Have you checked to see how it would pass a keypress of f1 outside of mutt? > > > What if you > > > > > > echo ^V | cat -v > > > > ^[[11~ (hmmm) > > OP > here I'd set keypad=Xterm R6 and echo ^V shows ^[OP == f1 macro is working!! thanks all!! -- Eduardo Gargiulo ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org msg27279/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt newbie and iSpell.
Hi, * Michael Tatge [04/16/02 11:38:00 CEST] wrote: > Rocco Rutte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > > Hi, > > > > * Brian Durant [04/16/02 08:39:12 CEST] wrote: > > > On Monday 15 April 2002 22:41, Rocco Rutte wrote: > > > - Hmm, try replacing "\n" by "": > > > - > > > - macro compose i ":set ispell=..." "..." > > > > > Same old thing - a rapidly blinking cursor and what appears to be a freeze of > > > all Mutt functions. > > > > Hmm, then probably your ispell doesn' behave as expected. > > Yours look like wrappers, so maybe they're wrong? > Unlikely. Currently he's only setting vars. set ispell=lol > should always work! Right, now I got it. I misinterpreted 'invoke' in his original mail. Cheers, Rocco. msg27278/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What about awk?
Michael, Thank you very much for your response and awk script. Much obliged. I am a complete newbie to awk (although I do have the Dougherty and Robbins text on sed and awk on hand). When I execute awk with the script as you instruct, it creates an output file that is unchanged from the input file. I used the fully qualified path for the awk command, awkscript.awk, input and output files. However, I'm unable to get it to work. I'm running gnu awk 3.1.0, Red Hat 7.2. awk on my machine is a symbolic link to gawk. John On 04/16/02, 05:26:44PM +0200, Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek wrote: > On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 11:53:57AM -0400, John P Verel wrote: > > David, > > > > > > As suggested, here's the first two messages from the file. The messages > > bodies, which were just plain text, are omitted for confidentiality: > > > > > > From: Robert F. Hugi [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 11:20 AM > > To: Verel,John(NXI); [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject:[Deleted] > > > > >Message here, deleted > > > > > > > > From: Davis, Christopher [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 9:21 PM > > To: Heyen,Keith A.(NXI); Verel,John(NXI) > > Cc: Goldstein,Irving V.; Chazaud, Diana; Taylor, Gabriella > > Subject: [Deleted] > > > > >Message here, deleted > > > I made mutt read this mail as three-mail folder with awk: > $ awk -f awkscript.awk output > where pst2 is folder where I saved only the original (unquoted) mail and > output is the rusulting folder. awkscript.awk is attached > > > -- > Michal Suchanek > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > { if ($0 ~ "^From: ") { > # a From: line is eaten > from=$0 > start=1 > }else{ > #not From: > if (start) { > #but after From: > start=0 > if ($0 ~ "^Sent:") { > # Sent: after From: > mail=from; > sub("^.*\\[","",mail); > sub("\\].*$","",mail); > wday=substr($2,1,3); > mon=substr($3,1,3); > mday=substr($4,1,2); > year=$5 > hour=substr($6,1,2); > min=substr($6,4,4); > if ($7=="PM") hour+=12; > date= "" wday " " mon " " mday " " hour ":" min " " year > print "From " mail " " date > print "Date: " date > } > #doesnt look like a header > # just print the eaten line > print from > } > # not even after From: > # nothing special > print $0 > } > } -- John P. Verel Living Proof That Low Tech Beats High Tech!
Re: Mutt newbie and iSpell.
Hi, * Brian Durant [04/16/02 11:37:37 CEST] wrote: > On Tuesday 16 April 2002 15:11, Rocco Rutte wrote: > - Hmm, then probably your ispell doesn' behave as expected. > - Yours look like wrappers, so maybe they're wrong? > Umm sorry, I don't understand. My iSpell is a standard version that came with > the SuSE 7.3 Pro distro. Wrappers? What are you referring to? What are > wrappers? Ispell is usually called with parameters to specify the dictionary to use. I guess that the commands you want to use are simply scripts calling ispell with the correct parameter. Btw, how do you want to call your spelling checker? The key 'i' is by default bound to ispell and you changed it to something just setting ispell. Just to make sure, your problems appear when trying to only set the ispell variable, right? Cheers, Rocco. msg27276/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: macro problem
* Michael Tatge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 20:58:08 +0200]: > Nicolas Rachinsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > > * Eduardo Gargiulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 14:07:07 -0300]: > > > i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY > > > client. > > > > My settings are: > > function keys and keypad=Xterm R6 > > Use VT100+ What's better with VT100+? Everything I needed here seems to work fine. Nicolas PS: using FreeBSD 4.5 with a termcap entry based on xterm-color.
Re: macro problem
Nicolas Rachinsky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > * Eduardo Gargiulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 14:07:07 -0300]: > > i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY > > client. > > My settings are: > function keys and keypad=Xterm R6 Use VT100+ HTH, Michael -- "If you want to travel around the world and be invited to speak at a lot of different places, just write a Unix operating system." (By Linus Torvalds) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: macro problem
* David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 13:42:51 -0500]: > % > % > Just for fun, what if you leave your macro binding but manually > % > type my key sequence? > % > % 'Key is not bound' > > My guess is that we've exhausted the terminal side and it has something > to do with the termcap/terminfo on your Linux box. Unfortunately, we've > also exhausted my capabilities :-) Now let's hope that one of the term > wizards will step up with some ideas... Are you using termcap? Nicolas
Re: macro problem
* Eduardo Gargiulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 14:07:07 -0300]: > i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY > client. My settings are: function keys and keypad=Xterm R6 > > Have you checked to see how it would pass a keypress of f1 outside of mutt? > > What if you > > > > echo ^V | cat -v > > ^[[11~ (hmmm) OP here Nicolas
Re: macro problem
Eduardo -- ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... % % David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: % > % ... % > and the macros work for me... When I go to the settings for keyboard, I % > have Function keys set to send ESC(n~ rather than Linux, Xterm, or % > VT400... How about you? % % idem settings, idem PuTTY version but on W2K. That part certainly shouldn't matter. % % > Just for fun, what if you leave your macro binding but manually % > type my key sequence? % % 'Key is not bound' My guess is that we've exhausted the terminal side and it has something to do with the termcap/terminfo on your Linux box. Unfortunately, we've also exhausted my capabilities :-) Now let's hope that one of the term wizards will step up with some ideas... % % -- % Eduardo Gargiulo % ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27271/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: macro problem
David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > % > % > Have you checked to see how it would pass a keypress of f1 outside of mutt? > % > What if you > % > > % > echo ^V | cat -v > % > % ^[[11~ (hmmm) > > OK... When I send an F1 from my NT4 box running Putty v0.51 I get > > ^[OP > > and the macros work for me... When I go to the settings for keyboard, I > have Function keys set to send ESC(n~ rather than Linux, Xterm, or > VT400... How about you? idem settings, idem PuTTY version but on W2K. > Just for fun, what if you leave your macro binding but manually > type my key sequence? 'Key is not bound' -- Eduardo Gargiulo ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org msg27270/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: macro problem
Eduardo -- ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... % % David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... % > % > Quite interesting. And did you define your ,m macro with a \n at the % > end, or do we *expect* that you'd have to hit return? % % i forgot to append \n. Good enough; we expect it and so we don't worry. % % > Are you coming through a network connection or are you right on the box % > where mutt is running? % % i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY % client. Ah. OK. % % What is your $TERM? % % xterm That certainly ought to work; it works for me. % % > Have you checked to see how it would pass a keypress of f1 outside of mutt? % > What if you % > % > echo ^V | cat -v % % ^[[11~ (hmmm) OK... When I send an F1 from my NT4 box running Putty v0.51 I get ^[OP and the macros work for me... When I go to the settings for keyboard, I have Function keys set to send ESC(n~ rather than Linux, Xterm, or VT400... How about you? Just for fun, what if you leave your macro binding but manually type my key sequence? % % -- % Eduardo Gargiulo % ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27269/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signature verification
* David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 08:32 (CEST)] > While that sounds like a good idea in general, I don't think it's the > real problem. I get my mail delivered right here and I couldn't verify > the sig on this message, Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > ironically enough. Signed Mon 15 Apr 2002 22:58:13 CEST w DSA key ID 4065A1DA Verified ok: Thorsten Haude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Using: This is fetchmail release 5.3.3+NTLM+SDPS+NLS gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.1 Updating... It does check with 1.0.6 also. Time to upgrade fetchmail I think, as this seems quite old ;) -- Rafael C. Gawenda, rgawenda/at/pobox/dot/com 2:348/610@fidonet; GnuPG key: 0x5C4839A5; Registered LiNUX User #93375 If the brain was so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we could not understand it (Lyall Watson) msg27268/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: macro problem
David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > % > Let's see if you can define any macros at all. What if you change the > % > key from to ,m or some such; does it show up then? > % > % ok. With f1 or F1 the macro didn't work, but with ,m yes! I see a > % message 'Shell command: less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt' and when > % hit enter, the manual appear. > > Quite interesting. And did you define your ,m macro with a \n at the > end, or do we *expect* that you'd have to hit return? i forgot to append \n. > Are you coming through a network connection or are you right on the box > where mutt is running? i'm not right on the mutt box. I'm connected through ssh using PuTTY client. What is your $TERM? xterm > Have you checked to see how it would pass a keypress of f1 outside of mutt? > What if you > > echo ^V | cat -v ^[[11~ (hmmm) -- Eduardo Gargiulo ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org msg27267/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signature verification
Michael, et al -- ...and then Michael Tatge said... % % David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: % > % David I know you use several keyrings. If I uncomment all keyring lines % > % in my options file I can verify any mail just fine. % > % Without those lines the gpg output shows that the sigs are verified, but % > % mutt says they can not be verified. % % > Interesting... % % The interesting part is that the gpg output is identical whether mutt % says verified or not. So this IS a mutt issue. Ahhh... Yes, indeed. % % > I wonder why gpg can find the key to check the sig at all... If you % > don't have the ring listed, then where is gpg finding it? % % It fetches it from a keyserver. Oh, I get it. Sorry :-) % % HTH, % % Michael Thanks! :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27266/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: macro problem
Eduardo -- ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... % % David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: % > % > ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... % > % ... % > OK. But are they in the system Muttrc file? % % yes. Now, i have removed the macros from muttrc, but they are still not % working. It was unlikely, but it doesn't really make sense to have them in two places anyway, so it's a benefit overall. % % > Let's see if you can define any macros at all. What if you change the % > key from to ,m or some such; does it show up then? % % ok. With f1 or F1 the macro didn't work, but with ,m yes! I see a % message 'Shell command: less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt' and when % hit enter, the manual appear. Quite interesting. And did you define your ,m macro with a \n at the end, or do we *expect* that you'd have to hit return? Are you coming through a network connection or are you right on the box where mutt is running? What is your $TERM? Have you checked to see how it would pass a keypress of f1 outside of mutt? What if you echo ^V | cat -v at the command line, where that's a ctrl-v and then your f1 key? Maybe you can fake the f1 key with an esc-something macro once you see what mutt, just like your shell, is getting. % % -- % Eduardo Gargiulo % ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27265/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signature verification
David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > % David I know you use several keyrings. If I uncomment all keyring lines > % in my options file I can verify any mail just fine. > % Without those lines the gpg output shows that the sigs are verified, but > % mutt says they can not be verified. > Interesting... The interesting part is that the gpg output is identical whether mutt says verified or not. So this IS a mutt issue. > I wonder why gpg can find the key to check the sig at all... If you > don't have the ring listed, then where is gpg finding it? It fetches it from a keyserver. HTH, Michael -- The nice thing about Windows is - It does not just crash, it displays a dialog box and lets you press 'OK' first. (Arno Schaefer's .sig) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
search in browser
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Re: mbox parsing test file
Michael Tatge wrote: > >From bla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sat Jul 15 20:37:05 2000 > X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jul 15 20:36:34 2000 > Subject: HTML only > > Guess it does not recognize the two ^From_ lines because of the special > format. All other ^From_ lines look like this: Mutt expects the address to be a single token, so if it contains spaces it should be double quoted. > Mutt also fails with Dates. If you sort by date/date the order is not > correct. Probably because the timezone is missing. Mutt expects dates of the form: Tue Apr 16 09:21:34 PDT 2002
trying to set sort_browser=reverse-unsort ;)
I don't know why sort_browser=unsorted (as-is) equals sort_browser=reverse-unsorted (shouldn't it read 'si-sa'?). The reverse- prefix does nothing here, and the docs doesn't state that. Moreover, the help scrn at the browser, shows options o and O, but also doesn't help. I know, it's not quite logical to reverse-sort something that isn't previously sorted, but that would give me the exact mailbox order I would want to use. I'll now investigate how to do it, as find doesn't sort, and sort doesn't just reverse-unsort (he! mutt isn't the only one at this). I had to change from (two prgs): mailboxes `find ~/mail -type f|xargs` to (five prgs): mailboxes `find ~/mail -type f|grep -n .|sort -rn|cut -f2 -d:|xargs` -- Rafael C. Gawenda, rgawenda/at/pobox/dot/com 2:348/610@fidonet; GnuPG key: 0x5C4839A5; Registered LiNUX User #93375 Guru, n. A computer owner who can read the manual. msg27260/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What about awk?
On Sun, Apr 14, 2002 at 11:53:57AM -0400, John P Verel wrote: > David, > > > As suggested, here's the first two messages from the file. The messages > bodies, which were just plain text, are omitted for confidentiality: > > > From: Robert F. Hugi [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 11:20 AM > To: Verel,John(NXI); [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:[Deleted] > > >Message here, deleted > > > > From: Davis, Christopher [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 9:21 PM > To: Heyen,Keith A.(NXI); Verel,John(NXI) > Cc: Goldstein,Irving V.; Chazaud, Diana; Taylor, Gabriella > Subject: [Deleted] > > >Message here, deleted > I made mutt read this mail as three-mail folder with awk: $ awk -f awkscript.awk output where pst2 is folder where I saved only the original (unquoted) mail and output is the rusulting folder. awkscript.awk is attached -- Michal Suchanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] { if ($0 ~ "^From: ") { # a From: line is eaten from=$0 start=1 }else{ #not From: if (start) { #but after From: start=0 if ($0 ~ "^Sent:") { # Sent: after From: mail=from; sub("^.*\\[","",mail); sub("\\].*$","",mail); wday=substr($2,1,3); mon=substr($3,1,3); mday=substr($4,1,2); year=$5 hour=substr($6,1,2); min=substr($6,4,4); if ($7=="PM") hour+=12; date= "" wday " " mon " " mday " " hour ":" min " " year print "From " mail " " date print "Date: " date } #doesnt look like a header # just print the eaten line print from } # not even after From: # nothing special print $0 } }
Re: macro problem
David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eduardo -- > > ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... > % > % David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > % > > % > That usually goes in the system Muttrc file. Are they in there, too? > % > % i added manually. > > OK. But are they in the system Muttrc file? yes. Now, i have removed the macros from muttrc, but they are still not working. > % > % > How very odd. So it doesn't show up in the help listing under '?', I > % > presume. > % > % right. > > OK. > > > % > % > What happens if you paste in ':macro index ...' in a running mutt? Is it > % > bound then? > % > % no. > > Well, that's certainly a place to start. > > What if you start mutt with no muttrc file? Try > > mutt -F /dev/null > > and then try pasting in the macro. I wonder if there is some silly > interaction between the system Muttrc and your muttrc, though I think it > unlikely. > > Let's see if you can define any macros at all. What if you change the > key from to ,m or some such; does it show up then? ok. With f1 or F1 the macro didn't work, but with ,m yes! I see a message 'Shell command: less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt' and when hit enter, the manual appear. -- Eduardo Gargiulo ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org msg27259/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?: Formail problem
On 04/15/02, 06:33:32PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > > Snip out any two consecutive messages from the file and attach them to a > > reply to the list. I'm sure someone can come up with a quick hack that > > will [re?]build ^From_ lines for you. > > Yes, that hack is very simple: > > man formail > man procmail > > Splitting up a single file which contains concatenated emails with no > From_ line at all could be more of a problem. Try some formail options, > if none help, use a short script (or your editor) and replace each > "From: " with a "From\nFrom: ", then run formail. > > Volker When doing the above, formail generates but one ^From_ entry, From_ foo@bar. I have done the following: Using sed, changed the address format from [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] (which is the way Outlook left it) to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. I run the output of this though formail and, no matter what options I try, it will only generate a From_ entry for the first mail message. The rest of the messages are unaffected. man formail recommends formail -ds >new_mailbox. This does not work. Any suggestions> -- John P. Verel Living Proof That Low Tech Beats High Tech!
Re: macro problem
Thorsten, et al -- ...and then Thorsten Haude said... % % * Eduardo Gargiulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-16 17:20]: % ># Show documentation when pressing F1 % >macro generic "!less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n" "Show Mutt documentation" % ^ % >but when i hit F1, the macro don't work and mutt says 'Key is not % ^ % I use and that works. I thought of that but checked my Muttrc and it has f1 (lower case). Ah, well :-( % % Thorsten % -- % There's no such thing as a stupid question. Only stupid people. % - User Friendly :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27257/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: macro problem
Eduardo -- ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... % % David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: % > % > That usually goes in the system Muttrc file. Are they in there, too? % % i added manually. OK. But are they in the system Muttrc file? % % > How very odd. So it doesn't show up in the help listing under '?', I % > presume. % % right. OK. % % > What happens if you paste in ':macro index ...' in a running mutt? Is it % > bound then? % % no. Well, that's certainly a place to start. What if you start mutt with no muttrc file? Try mutt -F /dev/null and then try pasting in the macro. I wonder if there is some silly interaction between the system Muttrc and your muttrc, though I think it unlikely. Let's see if you can define any macros at all. What if you change the key from to ,m or some such; does it show up then? % % > % The macro runs ok from command line. % % both. Just making sure I had a clear understanding. Thanks. % % -- % Eduardo Gargiulo % ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27256/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: tmp modified. Update encoding?
Hardy -- ...and then Hardy Merrill said... % % David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: % > ... % > This just came up recently; you can check the archives for the full % > discussion. Is your home dir NFS mounted and are you experience clock % > difference problems between machines? % % Yes, that's right - my home directory is NFS mounted. I'll check % the archives, but if you have a quick suggestion I'd appreciate % it. Synchronise the times between your workstation and the server. % % TIA. HTH & HAND % % -- % Hardy Merrill % Senior Software Engineer % Red Hat, Inc. % [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27255/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: macro problem
* Eduardo Gargiulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 12:20:32 -0300]: > I have the following lines in my muttrc > > # Show documentation when pressing F1 > macro generic "!less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n" "Show Mutt documentation" > macro index"!less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n" "Show Mutt documentation" > macro pager"!less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n" "Show Mutt documentation" > > but when i hit F1, the macro don't work and mutt says 'Key is not > bound'. How can i fix this? > The macro runs ok from command line. Is TERM set correctly? What type of terminal are you using? Nicolas
Re: macro problem
Thorsten Haude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Eduardo Gargiulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-16 17:20]: > ># Show documentation when pressing F1 > >macro generic "!less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n" "Show Mutt >documentation" > ^ > >but when i hit F1, the macro don't work and mutt says 'Key is not > ^ > I use and that works. I tryied it too, but it didn't work. -- Eduardo Gargiulo ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org msg27253/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: macro problem
David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That usually goes in the system Muttrc file. Are they in there, too? i added manually. > How very odd. So it doesn't show up in the help listing under '?', I > presume. right. > What happens if you paste in ':macro index ...' in a running mutt? Is it > bound then? no. > % The macro runs ok from command line. both. -- Eduardo Gargiulo ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org
Re: macro problem
* Eduardo Gargiulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-16 17:20]: ># Show documentation when pressing F1 >macro generic "!less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n" "Show Mutt documentation" ^ >but when i hit F1, the macro don't work and mutt says 'Key is not ^ I use and that works. Thorsten -- There's no such thing as a stupid question. Only stupid people. - User Friendly msg27251/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: tmp modified. Update encoding?
David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Hardy -- > > ...and then Hardy Merrill said... > % > ... > %~/.mutt/tmp/mutt-merrill-1234-0 [#1] modified. Update encoding? ([y]/n): > % > % Am I doing something wrong, or have a forgotten something in the > % config of mutt? > > This just came up recently; you can check the archives for the full > discussion. Is your home dir NFS mounted and are you experience clock > difference problems between machines? Yes, that's right - my home directory is NFS mounted. I'll check the archives, but if you have a quick suggestion I'd appreciate it. TIA. -- Hardy Merrill Senior Software Engineer Red Hat, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: macro problem
Eduardo -- ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... % % Hi all. Hello! % % I have the following lines in my muttrc That usually goes in the system Muttrc file. Are they in there, too? % % # Show documentation when pressing F1 % macro generic "!less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n" "Show Mutt documentation" % macro index"!less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n" "Show Mutt documentation" % macro pager"!less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n" "Show Mutt documentation" % % but when i hit F1, the macro don't work and mutt says 'Key is not % bound'. How can i fix this? How very odd. So it doesn't show up in the help listing under '?', I presume. What happens if you paste in ':macro index ...' in a running mutt? Is it bound then? % The macro runs ok from command line. Your shell command line or the mutt command line? % % -- % Eduardo Gargiulo % ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27249/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signature verification
Michael, et al -- ...and then Michael Tatge said... % % David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: ... % > % > I don't know that I'd say that. I cannot verify my own messages in my % > own =mutt-users fcc folder. ... % > [zero] [9:39am] ~> gpg --verify < /tmp/m % > gpg: no signed data % > gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error % % If those are pgp/mine it's sure that gpg can't verify anything. Now I get what Shawn was doing. Thanks. % David I know you use several keyrings. If I uncomment all keyring lines % in my options file I can verify any mail just fine. Interesting... I have all of my keyring files uncommented and usable in my gpg options file. Who wouldn't, though? I even just now thought of folder-hooks and trying to point mutt to the right keyring, but that's only for importing. Besides, this is my own key. Phooey. % Without those lines the gpg output shows that the sigs are verified, but % mutt says they can not be verfied. I wonder why gpg can find the key to check the sig at all... If you don't have the ring listed, thenn where is gpg finding it? % % HTH, Thanks & HAND % % Michael % -- % "Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX." % (By Stephan Zielinski) % % PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27248/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
macro problem
Hi all. I have the following lines in my muttrc # Show documentation when pressing F1 macro generic "!less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n" "Show Mutt documentation" macro index"!less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n" "Show Mutt documentation" macro pager"!less /usr/local/doc/mutt/manual.txt\n" "Show Mutt documentation" but when i hit F1, the macro don't work and mutt says 'Key is not bound'. How can i fix this? The macro runs ok from command line. -- Eduardo Gargiulo ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org msg27247/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signature verification
Shawn -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % begin David T-G quotation: % > % > I tried this method, using my editor to write everything from the last % > ^From_ line down to the bottom of the folder out to a file, but couldn't % > get gpg to do anything with it: % % Argh. I forgot PGP/MIME. That method I said will only work with inline % sigs. A... % % Score one for The Old Way. Sorry for the brainfart. *grin* and no problem. That explains why I was confused, though! % % % -- % Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: % http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it % AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27246/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signature verification
begin David T-G quotation: > > I tried this method, using my editor to write everything from the last > ^From_ line down to the bottom of the folder out to a file, but couldn't > get gpg to do anything with it: Argh. I forgot PGP/MIME. That method I said will only work with inline sigs. Score one for The Old Way. Sorry for the brainfart. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong msg27245/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signature verification
David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > Shawn, et al -- > > ...and then Shawn McMahon said... > % > % Well, it's not unusual to have an occasional unverifiable mail, but for > % it to be so consistent for you, it almost has to be somewhere in your > % MTA path, not your MUA, since nobody else is seeing it with this > % frequency. > > I don't know that I'd say that. I cannot verify my own messages in my > own =mutt-users fcc folder. > > % everything but one of the messages you can't verify, then pump that > % message through gpg and see what happens. If it still doesn't verify, > % it's not Mutt. > > I had previously tried saving the body and the signature of a given > message and found that the signature was valid but not verified. > > I tried this method, using my editor to write everything from the last > ^From_ line down to the bottom of the folder out to a file, but couldn't > get gpg to do anything with it: > > [zero] [9:39am] ~> cat /tmp/m | gpg --verify > gpg: no signed data > gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error > [zero] [9:39am] ~> gpg --verify /tmp/m > gpg: no signed data > gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error > [zero] [9:39am] ~> gpg --verify < /tmp/m > gpg: no signed data > gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error If those are pgp/mine it's sure that gpg can't verify anything. David I know you use several keyrings. If I uncomment all keyring lines in my options file I can verify any mail just fine. Without those lines the gpg output shows that the sigs are verified, but mutt says they can not be verfied. HTH, Michael -- "Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX." (By Stephan Zielinski) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key msg27244/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: forward message
16-Apr-02 at 08:27, David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... > % > % Which variable should i edit to customize the lines > % > % - Forwarded message from x --- > % . > % - End forwarded message - > % > % appended when i forward a message? I want to remove the From: header. > > If you haven't yet looked through the manual for "forward" to at least > try to find it, shame on you. > > If you have, how could you have missed forward_quote at 6.3.54? IIRC, the variable forward_quote sets the indent string. The actual strings "Forwarded message from" and "End forwarded message" cannot be changed, bar changing them in the source and recompiling. i.e., there is no "$forward_attribution" I looked into hacking the source and providing a patch, but as it was not essential for me, I decided to leave it aside. Especially since I have no working knowledge of C, so I have to search for code that does the right thing and screw around with it, and heaven knows whether that will give the best approach :) -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:74.84% see www.mersenne.org] Sometimes we sit and read other people's interpretations of our lyrics and think, 'Hey, that's pretty good.' If we liked it, we would keep our mouths shut and just accept the credit as if it was what we meant all along. -- John Lennon.
Re: PGP signature verification
Shawn, et al -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % begin Thorsten Haude quotation: % > % > It's not Fetchmail. I use 5.9.11 now, which seems to be the latest % > version, but I cannot verify David's mail. % % Well, it's not unusual to have an occasional unverifiable mail, but for % it to be so consistent for you, it almost has to be somewhere in your % MTA path, not your MUA, since nobody else is seeing it with this % frequency. I don't know that I'd say that. I cannot verify my own messages in my own =mutt-users fcc folder. % ... % everything but one of the messages you can't verify, then pump that % message through gpg and see what happens. If it still doesn't verify, % it's not Mutt. I had previously tried saving the body and the signature of a given message and found that the signature was valid but not verified. I tried this method, using my editor to write everything from the last ^From_ line down to the bottom of the folder out to a file, but couldn't get gpg to do anything with it: [zero] [9:39am] ~> cat /tmp/m | gpg --verify gpg: no signed data gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error [zero] [9:39am] ~> gpg --verify /tmp/m gpg: no signed data gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error [zero] [9:39am] ~> gpg --verify < /tmp/m gpg: no signed data gpg: can't hash datafile: file open error What did you mean? % % -- % Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: % http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it % AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27242/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signature verification
Hi, * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-16 15:30]: >Maybe, but maybe not. I don't think we've pinned it down to a not-mutt >problem. Frankly I don't know what the heck is going on. I couldn't verify *any* of the mails I got from you today. Thorsten -- Nichts ist schwerer und erfordert mehr Charakter, als sich in offenem Gegensatz zu seiner Zeit zu befinden und zu sagen: Nein! - Kurt Tucholsky msg27241/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signature verification
begin Thorsten Haude quotation: > > * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-16 15:30]: > >Maybe, but maybe not. I don't think we've pinned it down to a not-mutt > >problem. Frankly I don't know what the heck is going on. > It's not Fetchmail. I use 5.9.11 now, which seems to be the latest > version, but I cannot verify David's mail. Well, it's not unusual to have an occasional unverifiable mail, but for it to be so consistent for you, it almost has to be somewhere in your MTA path, not your MUA, since nobody else is seeing it with this frequency. ALMOST has. It could be Mutt, but I don't think anybody else is going to find anything Mutt if they haven't yet. Try making a copy of your mail spool, and then edit that copy to remove everything but one of the messages you can't verify, then pump that message through gpg and see what happens. If it still doesn't verify, it's not Mutt. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong msg27240/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signature verification
Shawn -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % begin David T-G quotation: % > % > Personally I hope it doesn't leave mutt-users unless someone (I volunteer) % > sets up a temporary mutt-and-gpg-verification-problems@ list to get to % > the bottom of it and keep me in the loop. I certainly want to get it % > resolved. % % When it is resolved, we want it in the archives, too. Otherwise that % "temporary" list is gonna need permanent archives. I agree that it should stay here. I agree that the discussion as well as the end fix are important. If I'm one of a handful, though, then I at least don't want it to die before it's solved -- though cutting it down to a couple of people who want to know why but don't have the time or expertise to do the digging certainly won't get us much closer. Were it to be moved off-list, I'd recommend a summary post back to mutt-users when it's all done. % % % -- % Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: % http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it % AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27239/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signature verification
Moin, * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-16 15:30]: >Maybe, but maybe not. I don't think we've pinned it down to a not-mutt >problem. Frankly I don't know what the heck is going on. It's not Fetchmail. I use 5.9.11 now, which seems to be the latest version, but I cannot verify David's mail. >Personally I hope it doesn't leave mutt-users unless someone (I volunteer) >sets up a temporary mutt-and-gpg-verification-problems@ list to get to >the bottom of it and keep me in the loop. I certainly want to get it >resolved. This might be a good idea. Thorsten -- It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. - Voltaire msg27238/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: forward message
Michael, et al -- ...and then Michael Tatge said... % % David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: % > Eduardo -- % > % % > % Which variable should i edit to customize the lines % > % % > % - Forwarded message from x --- % > % . % > % - End forwarded message - % > % % > % appended when i forward a message? I want to remove the From: header. % > % > If you have, how could you have missed forward_quote at 6.3.54? % % $forward_quote toggle whether $indent_string is used or not. It doesn't % effect "forward markers". You're quote right; I stand corrected. That's what I get for reading too early. It's not in a variable, unfortunately: [zero] [9:04am] ~/xfer/mutt/mutt-1.3.28> egrep -i 'forwarded message ' *.c send.c: fputs ("- Forwarded message from ", fp); send.c: fputs ("\n- End forwarded message -\n", fp); % % HTH, My apologies & HAND % % Michael :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27237/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: forward message
* Eduardo Gargiulo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 10:26:43 -0300]: > Which variable should i edit to customize the lines > > - Forwarded message from x --- > . > - End forwarded message - > > appended when i forward a message? I want to remove the From: header. You can't. Nicolas
Re: IMAP to Exchange
* mutt-users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-04-16 00:26 +0200]: > I manged to configure my mutt to read my mails from the exchange > server, via mapi or imap protocol? > I am running: Debian Linux woddy kernel 2.4.7 with imaptool 0.9-4 $ apt-cache search imaptool imaptool - A tool for creating client-side image maps > All folders i have Problems with have subdirectories. In my > pager they have IMAP + notation. All with the + down´t work. Have you tried both and to select those folders? -- Johannes Franken Professional unix/network development mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jfranken.de/
Re: PGP signature verification
begin David T-G quotation: > > Personally I hope it doesn't leave mutt-users unless someone (I volunteer) > sets up a temporary mutt-and-gpg-verification-problems@ list to get to > the bottom of it and keep me in the loop. I certainly want to get it > resolved. When it is resolved, we want it in the archives, too. Otherwise that "temporary" list is gonna need permanent archives. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong msg27234/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: forward message
David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > Eduardo -- > % > % Which variable should i edit to customize the lines > % > % - Forwarded message from x --- > % . > % - End forwarded message - > % > % appended when i forward a message? I want to remove the From: header. > > If you have, how could you have missed forward_quote at 6.3.54? $forward_quote toggle whether $indent_string is used or not. It doesn't effect "forward markers". HTH, Michael -- The nice thing about Windows is - It does not just crash, it displays a dialog box and lets you press 'OK' first. (Arno Schaefer's .sig) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: PGP signature verification
Thorsten, et al -- ...and then Thorsten Haude said... % % Hi, Hello! % % * Shawn McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [02-04-15 22:01]: % >begin Thorsten Haude quotation: % >> Received: from pop.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.142] % >> by localhost with POP3 (fetchmail-5.8.0) % >> for yooden@localhost (single-drop); Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:00:25 +0200 (CEST) % >That's a really old fetchmail, with a lot of known bugs, including % >problems with parsing usernames with spaces in them. Try upgrading it, % >and see if the problem persists. % Done. % % Thanks so far. While that sounds like a good idea in general, I don't think it's the real problem. I get my mail delivered right here and I couldn't verify the sig on this message, Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ironically enough. % % Thorsten % -- % The fact that windows is one of the most popular ways to operate a computer % means that evolution has made a general fuckup and our race is doomed. Thanks again & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27232/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PGP signature verification
Will -- ...and then Will Yardley said... % % perhaps it's time (past time???) to take this discussion off list? Maybe, but maybe not. I don't think we've pinned it down to a not-mutt problem. Frankly I don't know what the heck is going on. Personally I hope it doesn't leave mutt-users unless someone (I volunteer) sets up a temporary mutt-and-gpg-verification-problems@ list to get to the bottom of it and keep me in the loop. I certainly want to get it resolved. % % -- % Will Yardley % input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . > :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27231/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: forward message
Eduardo -- ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... % % Hi all. Hello! % % Which variable should i edit to customize the lines % % - Forwarded message from x --- % . % - End forwarded message - % % appended when i forward a message? I want to remove the From: header. If you haven't yet looked through the manual for "forward" to at least try to find it, shame on you. If you have, how could you have missed forward_quote at 6.3.54? % % TIA HTH & HAND % % -- % Eduardo Gargiulo % ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27230/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
forward message
Hi all. Which variable should i edit to customize the lines - Forwarded message from x --- . - End forwarded message - appended when i forward a message? I want to remove the From: header. TIA -- Eduardo Gargiulo ejg(at)ar.homelinux.org msg27229/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: tmp modified. Update encoding?
Hardy -- ...and then Hardy Merrill said... % ... %~/.mutt/tmp/mutt-merrill-1234-0 [#1] modified. Update encoding? ([y]/n): % % Am I doing something wrong, or have a forgotten something in the % config of mutt? This just came up recently; you can check the archives for the full discussion. Is your home dir NFS mounted and are you experience clock difference problems between machines? % % TIA. HTH & HAND % % -- % Hardy Merrill % Senior Software Engineer % Red Hat, Inc. % [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27228/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems (bugs?) I found with mutt
Michal -- ...and then Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek said... % % On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 04:09:25PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: % > Michael Tatge wrote: % > > Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: % > ... % > > > - I'm unable to browse Maildirs reliably. They can contain both messages % > > > and subfolders but when I enter a maildir the message index is ... % > % > > This is perfect behaviour. A Maildir should not have subdirs other then ... % Why? This is how courier-imap sets things and it causes no problems % except the subfolders arent easily accessible from mutt. Just because Courier IMAP does that doesn't mean that Maildirs are actually permitted to have subfolders therein. ... % > > > (should be handled the same way IMAP browsing is described in ... % > > > - subfolders in Maildirs arent displayed in browser - start with dot ... % > > IMAP folder may have subdirs. Maildirs not. % Is there anything that fobids it? Mine have and some of them were created % automagically. Please provide the Maildir spec which states that directories other than cur, new, and tmp may be present in a Maildir. I am sure that, given a proper reference, the developers will fix the code so that Maildirs are handled with full capabilities as they are designed. You can count on mutt to Do It Right. % > perhaps the OP is confusing courier's 'maildir++' documentation with ... % ??? procmail happily sorts into subdirs of ~/Mail which is a maildir. As Sure; procmail will put mail wherever you tell it to. That also doesn't mean that Maildirs are permitted to have subfolders therein. % I understand Maildirs they contain mail messages in cur, new and tmp. % Other directories arent affected in any way and my be used for more maildirs. I look forward to a pointer to the spec or an actual copy posted to the list. HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg27227/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: List-Reply
* Shawn McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Apr 16. 2002 15:12]: > Alternately, just do the "To:", and ignore the "Cc:", because people > shouldn't be Cc:ing lists. But that may just be me. But they do. A LOT. -- Mads Martin Jørgensen, http://mmj.dk "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.
Re: List-Reply
> > Is there a way to tell mutt to just reply to the address in the To > > line (or, perhaps, in the To or Cc line) and not to the sender? > > how would mutt pick which? it's not psychic. If a message said: From: Alice To: A list the request is for a command which will initiate a reply to "A list" but not Alice. What's not being suggested is that mutt handle something like: From: Alice To: Bob, A list However, in both cases i'd say you should just group-reply to everyone, and if the recipient is annoyed at getting two copies of the message, they should just use the one-line procmail/formmail solution to remove duplicate messages. And if their OS doesn't support that, it's a great incentive to upgrade to one which does. :) -- Mike Schiraldi VeriSign Applied Research msg27225/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: List-Reply
begin Will Yardley quotation: > > how is mutt supposed to know which addresses are mailing lists and which > aren't? IMHO, if you hit "list-reply" and Mutt doesn't recognize a list, it should assume you know what you're talking about, and pop up the "To:" address as a "yes/no" default. Then if you say no, it should cycle through the Cc: addresses until you say "yes" or "q". Alternately, just do the "To:", and ignore the "Cc:", because people shouldn't be Cc:ing lists. But that may just be me. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong msg27224/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems (bugs?) I found with mutt
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 04:09:25PM -0700, Will Yardley wrote: > Michael Tatge wrote: > > Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > > > > I found these problems for which I know *no* 100% workaround: > > > > > - I'm unable to browse Maildirs reliably. They can contain both messages > > > and subfolders but when I enter a maildir the message index is > > > displayed automatically > > > This is perfect behaviour. A Maildir should not have subdirs other then > > cur, new, tmp. > > If you need subdirs, use normal directories. Why? This is how courier-imap sets things and it causes no problems except the subfolders arent easily accessible from mutt. > [...] > > > (should be handled the same way IMAP browsing is described in > > > documentation). > > > - subfolders in Maildirs arent displayed in browser - start with dot > > > (set mask to show .subforder and ignore new|cur|tmp) - suggest > > > maildir_mask > > > > IMAP folder may have subdirs. Maildirs not. Is there anything that fobids it? Mine have and some of them were created automagically. > perhaps the OP is confusing courier's 'maildir++' documentation with > Maildir itself. courier imapd does actually allow subfolders, and this > is the default. folders start with a '.' by default. ??? procmail happily sorts into subdirs of ~/Mail which is a maildir. As I understand Maildirs they contain mail messages in cur, new and tmp. Other directories arent affected in any way and my be used for more maildirs. > > you can put: > set mask="^\\." > to show only folders starting with a leading dot. > > personally, i've found that the better way to use both courier IMAP and > local Maildir folders is either to put your actual mail folders in > ~/Mail/ and then create symlinks from ~/Mail/foo/ to ~/Maildir/.foo/, or > to do the opposite and link ~/Maildir/.foo/ to ~/Mail/foo/. Thank you for your suggestions, I have tried both already. As I find myself typing the folder names directly more often the link solution seems superior to mask. > > courier's strange way of doing things makes sense when the only access > to the system is via IMAP, but it's a pain to use with local folders. Yes, it is weird. But if it didnt use the dots it wouldnt be that bad. -- Michal Suchanek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mbox parsing test file
Volker Kuhlmann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > Mail client test file v0.5 (55kb): This mbox file triggers some bugs > and has very long field values to trigger buffer overflows. > > at http://kmail.kde.org/mail-client-QA.gz . Mutt doesn't crash, but > shows only 18 mails whereas kmail shows 20. I guess that has to do with > different interpretation of From_. Is mutt supposed to behave as it > does? Mutt does not see the last two mails: X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jun 16 00:15:22 2000 Subject: Date in 1975 >From bla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sat Jul 15 20:37:05 2000 X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Jul 15 20:36:34 2000 Subject: HTML only Guess it does not recognize the two ^From_ lines because of the special format. All other ^From_ lines look like this: >From aaa@aaa Mon Jan 01 00:00:00 1997 The other format is obviously the mailer test in this case. See X-From_: Mutt failed. Mutt also fails with Dates. If you sort by date/date the order is not correct. Michael -- "Problem solving under linux has never been the circus that it is under AIX." (By Pete Ehlke in comp.unix.aix) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: Mutt newbie and iSpell.
Rocco Rutte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: > Hi, > > * Brian Durant [04/16/02 08:39:12 CEST] wrote: > > On Monday 15 April 2002 22:41, Rocco Rutte wrote: > > - Hmm, try replacing "\n" by "": > > - > > - macro compose i ":set ispell=..." "..." > > > Same old thing - a rapidly blinking cursor and what appears to be a freeze of > > all Mutt functions. > > Hmm, then probably your ispell doesn' behave as expected. > Yours look like wrappers, so maybe they're wrong? Unlikely. Currently he's only setting vars. set ispell=lol should always work! HTH, Michael -- "I once witnessed a long-winded, month-long flamewar over the use of mice vs. trackballs...It was very silly." (By Matt Welsh) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: Mutt newbie and iSpell.
On Tuesday 16 April 2002 15:11, Rocco Rutte wrote: - Hmm, then probably your ispell doesn' behave as expected. - Yours look like wrappers, so maybe they're wrong? Umm sorry, I don't understand. My iSpell is a standard version that came with the SuSE 7.3 Pro distro. Wrappers? What are you referring to? What are wrappers? If it has something to do with my messages, I am using KMail until I can get this and a couple of other issues with Mutt straightened out. Cheers, Brian
Re: Mutt newbie and iSpell.
Hi, * Brian Durant [04/16/02 08:39:12 CEST] wrote: > On Monday 15 April 2002 22:41, Rocco Rutte wrote: > - Hmm, try replacing "\n" by "": > - > - macro compose i ":set ispell=..." "..." > Same old thing - a rapidly blinking cursor and what appears to be a freeze of > all Mutt functions. Hmm, then probably your ispell doesn' behave as expected. Yours look like wrappers, so maybe they're wrong? Cheers, Rocco. msg27219/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
mbox parsing test file
There is this Mail client test file v0.5 (55kb): This mbox file triggers some bugs and has very long field values to trigger buffer overflows. at http://kmail.kde.org/mail-client-QA.gz . Mutt doesn't crash, but shows only 18 mails whereas kmail shows 20. I guess that has to do with different interpretation of From_. Is mutt supposed to behave as it does? Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.orcon.net.nz Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: Is pgp_strict_enc working
Hi, * Patrik Modesto [04/16/02 08:33:01 CEST] wrote: > On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 11:50:09PM +0200, Rocco Rutte wrote: > > In which character set do you send non-signed mail? Maybe your > > $send_charset overides it? > I have > set send_charset="us-ascii:iso-8859-2:utf8" > in my muttrc file. How can send_charset overide pgp_strict_enc? Oops, my mistake. It must have too late. ;-) Cheers, Rocco. msg27217/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: List-Reply
Akkana wrote: > On aanother thread, Simon White writes: > > I always hit L to reply to lists, and hope that Mutt will reply as > > intended. > I'm generally very happy with mutt, but one thing I wish it would do, > which apparently pine and several of the Mac mailers can do, is reply > to lists without my having to update my .muttrc to tell it about every > mailing list I might ever subscribe to. pine doesn't have this function. even in more recent versions, which have support for rfc 2369 headers, you can't 'list-reply' or 'list-post'. you can, of course, group-reply, but you can do this in mutt too. > Is there a way to tell mutt to just reply to the address in the To > line (or, perhaps, in the To or Cc line) and not to the sender? how would mutt pick which? it's not psychic. > 99% of the time, that's what I want a list reply to do, and mutt's so > configurable that I figure there must be a way. I'd love to take all > those "lists" lines out of my .muttrc and have mutt "just work" for > all mailing lists. (I guessed "lists *" but it didn't work, L said > "No mailing lists found".) how is mutt supposed to know which addresses are mailing lists and which aren't? if mutt had support for interpreting rfc 2369 style headers, i suppose it would be possible to make a guess in some cases. note that you probably want to use 'subscribe' rather than 'lists' for lists that you're subscribed to. -- Will Yardley input: william < @ hq . newdream . net . >
List-Reply
On aanother thread, Simon White writes: > I always hit L to reply to lists, and hope that Mutt will reply as > intended. I'm generally very happy with mutt, but one thing I wish it would do, which apparently pine and several of the Mac mailers can do, is reply to lists without my having to update my .muttrc to tell it about every mailing list I might ever subscribe to. (I sub/unsub to lots of lists and it's a chore to keep .muttrc up to date.) Is there a way to tell mutt to just reply to the address in the To line (or, perhaps, in the To or Cc line) and not to the sender? 99% of the time, that's what I want a list reply to do, and mutt's so configurable that I figure there must be a way. I'd love to take all those "lists" lines out of my .muttrc and have mutt "just work" for all mailing lists. (I guessed "lists *" but it didn't work, L said "No mailing lists found".) Thanks! ...Akkana