Re: mailboxes with new mails in status_format - %b

2002-06-26 Thread Sven Guckes

* dak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-26 10:00]:
 Recently i had a system crash and i've lost all my data.  After
 having re-installed a new system, i reinstalled mutt.  I built a
 .muttrc (the same i had before).  But the problem is when i run
 mutt, before when i had new mails in my ~/Mail/ directory (mails
 filtered with procmail), mutt tells it to me by adding a 'Inc: n' in
 the botton of the screen (where 'n' is the number of mailboxes with
 new mails) so i just had to do 'c' to switch between mailboxes.
 So my question is: what must I do to have this feature again?

* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-26 10:35]:
 tell mutt which folders to check:
   mailboxes ! +foo +bar +baz

i just realized that this might only be about the *display*,
so the only thing missing might be the
format item %b in your status_format.

However, the default value of the
status_format include Inc:%b.
so - check your setup files
for changes to this variable.

remember:
/etc/Muttrc and $HOME/.muttrc
and sourced files from these.

 From: dak [EMAIL PROTECTED]

please add your real name to your postings, eg with

  my_hdr From: Aurelian Nephtali [EMAIL PROTECTED]

thanks.

Sven

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Re: Bug handling long lines ?

2002-06-26 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky

* Pedro Alves [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-26 09:44 +0100]:
 On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 01:58:45AM +0200, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote:
  It's encoded with quoted-printable, AFAIK quoted-printable requires
  the sender to a maximal line length of (I think) 100 bytes, after
  which you have to add at least a soft line break. This problem has
  been discussed on mutt-dev at least once. It's not mutt's fault, the
  message is broken.
 
 Well, It works on virtually every other mail client... including pine.

Is there sane working MUA producing such mails? 

Nicolas



Re: Embebbing external interpreter in mutt

2002-06-26 Thread Cedric Duval

Pedro Alves wrote:
 Hello. Is it possible to configure mutt to automatically lunch the external
 viewer defined in mailcap inside the mutt window? For instance, lunch w3m
 or lynx when the type is text/html without having to see 
 [-- text/html is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --])] ?

Sure.

In your muttrc:
   auto_view text/html
   # for multipart alternatives, text/plain is prefered
   alternative_order text/plain text/enriched text/html

And in your mailcap:
   text/html; lynx -dump -force-html %s ; copiousoutput

Note the copiousoutput option.
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Re: Extracting a PGP signature? - command extract-keys

2002-06-26 Thread Sven Guckes

* Phil Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-25 18:01]:
 People have sent me some PGP signed emails in PGP/MIME format
 (with signature as a separate attachment).  I would like to turn
 these into standalone files with just the contents and the
 signatures.  Does anyone here know how I'd go about doing this?

if this is just about extracting the keys from the messages,
well, mutt has a command for this:  extract-keys (CTRL-K)

  Help for index  -- (30%)
  ^K   extract-keys   extract PGP public keys

but if this is about copying a message to a file
then please use the command copy-message ('C'):

  Help for index  -- (65%)
  Ccopy-message   copy a message to a file/mailbox

however, there is no command which saves only the body
messages.  but there are simple workarounds for that:
either save the whole message and edit the resulting files.
or pipe the message to a script which filter the header away.

let us know what you need.

Sven



Re: Extracting a PGP signature?

2002-06-26 Thread David T-G

Phil --

I've held off on a response since I don't have a sure answer, but since
you haven't gotten what you need yet at all, ...

...and then Phil Gregory said...
% 
% People have sent me some PGP signed emails in PGP/MIME format (with
% signature as a separate attachment).  I would like to turn these into
% standalone files with just the contents and the signatures.  Does
% anyone here know how I'd go about doing this?

AFAIK you're out of luck.  It's my understanding that mutt feeds to gpg
the entire body, including MIME headers, for signing and then attaches
the signature after that -- which means that just saving the body off is
insufficient.  I don't have concrete information but you might check the
archives or ask on the gnupg list about how one might acheive what you
wish; I don't think the problem, if you can call it that, is specific to
mutt.

Sorry I couldn't be of more help...


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Re: Extracting a PGP signature?

2002-06-26 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp

On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 01:59:41PM -0400, Phil Gregory wrote:
 People have sent me some PGP signed emails in PGP/MIME format (with
 signature as a separate attachment).  I would like to turn these into
 standalone files with just the contents and the signatures.  Does
 anyone here know how I'd go about doing this?

i think this should be possible but, off hand, i don't know what might
work.  i'd take a test message and save it to a file and experiment
with pulling off the attached sig and using it to verify the rest of
the message.  you will probably have to tinker with the message so
that you end up with exactly what mutt signed so that the hash works
out.  once you know what exactly needs to be done, write a script that
does it and then create a macro that will fire off the script.

i also agree with david in that you might get some help from the
gnupg-users list or maybe mutt-dev to get a hint as to what exactly
mutt has gpg sign.

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Re: Mason 1.10. Doesn't report the error line number ?

2002-06-26 Thread Pedro Alves


  I'm sorry!!! Wrong mailing list!


On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 03:12:16PM +0100, Pedro Alves wrote:
 Hi.
 
 
 With mason 1.10 I still get this kind of errors:
 
 error in file:  
 /opt/apache_1.3.23/mason/obj/sebol/inner/stocks/production/index.html  
 line 45: 
 Global symbol $delivery requires explicit package name
 line 45: 
 Global symbol $delivery requires explicit package name
 line 45: 
 Global symbol $delivery requires explicit package name
 line 45: 
 Global symbol $delivery requires explicit package name
 line 45: 
 Global symbol $delivery requires explicit package name
 line 45: 
 Global symbol $delivery requires explicit package name
 line 49: 
 Global symbol $delivery requires explicit package name
 line 53: 
 Global symbol $delivery requires explicit package name
 
 
 This refers to the object file. Wasn't this changed?
 
 
 Thanks
 
 
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Re: Extracting a PGP signature?

2002-06-26 Thread Phil Gregory

* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-26 08:20 -0500]:
 AFAIK you're out of luck.  It's my understanding that mutt feeds to gpg
 the entire body, including MIME headers, for signing and then attaches
 the signature after that -- which means that just saving the body off is
 insufficient.

Ah.  I was unable to get a valid signature just by saving the body, so I
suspected something else was being thrown in.  I shall take the lazy
approach and just save the emails into a separate mbox that people can
download if they want to verify the data.

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Re: Embebbing external interpreter in mutt

2002-06-26 Thread Gary Johnson

On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 02:17:53PM +0200, Cedric Duval wrote:
 Pedro Alves wrote:
  Hello. Is it possible to configure mutt to automatically lunch the external
  viewer defined in mailcap inside the mutt window? For instance, lunch w3m
  or lynx when the type is text/html without having to see 
  [-- text/html is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --])] ?
 
 Sure.
 
 In your muttrc:
auto_view text/html
# for multipart alternatives, text/plain is prefered
alternative_order text/plain text/enriched text/html
 
 And in your mailcap:
text/html; lynx -dump -force-html %s ; copiousoutput
 
 Note the copiousoutput option.

I don't think that's what Pedro was asking for.  That will convert HTML
to plain text and display the plain text in mutt's pager.  What I think
Pedro wanted was to view the HTML content of the message using a browser
such as w3m, as can be done from the attachment menu, but with the
browser invoked automatically when the message is opened from the index
menu.  I don't think mutt currently supports that.

Gary

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Re: Embebbing external interpreter in mutt

2002-06-26 Thread David T-G

Gary, et al --

...and then Gary Johnson said...
% 
% On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 02:17:53PM +0200, Cedric Duval wrote:
%  Pedro Alves wrote:
%   Hello. Is it possible to configure mutt to automatically lunch the external
%   viewer defined in mailcap inside the mutt window? For instance, lunch w3m
...
% auto_view text/html
...
% Pedro wanted was to view the HTML content of the message using a browser
% such as w3m, as can be done from the attachment menu, but with the
% browser invoked automatically when the message is opened from the index
% menu.  I don't think mutt currently supports that.

In that case, what about something like

  msg-hook .'set pager=builtin'
  msg-hook pattern 'set pager=lynx'

or so?  If you want lynx as a pager, just set lynx as the pager...
[Note that this is untested, that I don't use msg-hook, and that
there's probably a lovely default setting that might be better than 
the all-matching default msg-hook.]


% 
% Gary
% 
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Re: Embebbing external interpreter in mutt

2002-06-26 Thread Pedro Alves

On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 09:21:59AM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 02:17:53PM +0200, Cedric Duval wrote:
  Pedro Alves wrote:
   Hello. Is it possible to configure mutt to automatically lunch the external
   viewer defined in mailcap inside the mutt window? For instance, lunch w3m
   or lynx when the type is text/html without having to see 
   [-- text/html is unsupported (use 'v' to view this part) --])] ?
  
  Sure.
  
  In your muttrc:
 auto_view text/html
 # for multipart alternatives, text/plain is prefered
 alternative_order text/plain text/enriched text/html
  
  And in your mailcap:
 text/html; lynx -dump -force-html %s ; copiousoutput
  
  Note the copiousoutput option.
 
 I don't think that's what Pedro was asking for.  That will convert HTML
 to plain text and display the plain text in mutt's pager.  What I think
 Pedro wanted was to view the HTML content of the message using a browser
 such as w3m, as can be done from the attachment menu, but with the
 browser invoked automatically when the message is opened from the index
 menu.  I don't think mutt currently supports that.
 
 Gary
 

although the suggestion Cedric gave is an interesting approach for what I
want, this would be perfect...


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Re: Embebbing external interpreter in mutt

2002-06-26 Thread Gary Johnson

On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:27:03AM -0500, David T-G wrote:
 Gary, et al --
 
 ...and then Gary Johnson said...
 % 
 % On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 02:17:53PM +0200, Cedric Duval wrote:
 %  Pedro Alves wrote:
 %   Hello. Is it possible to configure mutt to automatically lunch the external
 %   viewer defined in mailcap inside the mutt window? For instance, lunch w3m
 ...
 % auto_view text/html
 ...
 % Pedro wanted was to view the HTML content of the message using a browser
 % such as w3m, as can be done from the attachment menu, but with the
 % browser invoked automatically when the message is opened from the index
 % menu.  I don't think mutt currently supports that.
 
 In that case, what about something like
 
   msg-hook .  'set pager=builtin'
   msg-hook pattern 'set pager=lynx'
 
 or so?  If you want lynx as a pager, just set lynx as the pager...
 [Note that this is untested, that I don't use msg-hook, and that
 there's probably a lovely default setting that might be better than 
 the all-matching default msg-hook.]

Good point.  You just have to see that mutt sends raw HTML to the pager.
You also reminded me of a similar discussion here last month in which I
wrote:

 I played around with this a little and came up with the following
 solution.  It may have some bugs, but it's at least a starting point.
 First of all, you want to have mutt send HTML messages as raw HTML to
 your pager.  The way I did this was to put this in my muttrc:

 auto_view text/html

 and this in my mailcap:

 text/html; w3m %s; nametemplate=%s.html
 text/html; cat; copiousoutput

 Next, you want to specify a pager that understands that the header is
 plain text but the body is HTML.  I wrote a shell script and called it
 'htmlviewer':

 #!/bin/sh
 sed '1i\
 html\
 head\
 title/title\
 /head\
 body\
 pre
 s|^\[-- Autoview using .*|/pre\
 /body\
 /html|
 ' $* | w3m -T text/html

 It wraps the header in an HTML block and deletes the [-- Autoview line
 before sending the message to w3m.  Then I just set

 pager=htmlviewer

 in my muttrc.  You will probably want to use a display-hook (or
 message-hook) for this.

I don't know why I didn't think of that when I wrote my first reply.

Gary

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Re: Embebbing external interpreter in mutt

2002-06-26 Thread Pedro Alves

On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 10:12:45AM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote:
  % menu.  I don't think mutt currently supports that.
  
  In that case, what about something like
  
msg-hook .'set pager=builtin'
msg-hook pattern 'set pager=lynx'
  
  or so?  If you want lynx as a pager, just set lynx as the pager...
  [Note that this is untested, that I don't use msg-hook, and that
  there's probably a lovely default setting that might be better than 
  the all-matching default msg-hook.]
 
 Good point.  You just have to see that mutt sends raw HTML to the pager.
 You also reminded me of a similar discussion here last month in which I
 wrote:
 

How can I make the pager recieve the HTML?

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folder-hook push not responding as expected.

2002-06-26 Thread Vikram Goyal

Hello Dear Mutters,

I am using version 1.3.28i.

I have defined a folder-hook as:
folder-hook !Trash push enter-commandunset maildir_trashenter

But the error coming is 'push too many arguments'

How can I resolve this. Please point me where I am wrong.

Thanks in advance.

vikram...
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Re: Embebbing external interpreter in mutt

2002-06-26 Thread Gary Johnson

On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 06:37:32PM +0100, Pedro Alves wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 10:12:45AM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote:
   % menu.  I don't think mutt currently supports that.
   
   In that case, what about something like
   
 msg-hook .  'set pager=builtin'
 msg-hook pattern 'set pager=lynx'
   
   or so?  If you want lynx as a pager, just set lynx as the pager...
   [Note that this is untested, that I don't use msg-hook, and that
   there's probably a lovely default setting that might be better than 
   the all-matching default msg-hook.]
  
  Good point.  You just have to see that mutt sends raw HTML to the pager.
  You also reminded me of a similar discussion here last month in which I
  wrote:
  
 
 How can I make the pager recieve the HTML?

I tried to explain that in my previous post, but I guess I didn't do
very well.  If you put a line like this in your muttrc,

auto_view text/html

mutt will look in the mailcap file to find out how to process the text/html
part of the message.  Then if you put this in your mailcap file,

text/html; w3m %s; nametemplate=%s.html
text/html; cat; copiousoutput

mutt will use the rule tagged with the copiousoutput field to process
the text/html part of the message.  In this case, mutt just pipes that
part of the message through cat before sending it to the pager.
Consequently, the pager will receive raw HTML.

Another way to do all this which might be simpler is to forget the
auto_view and mailcap and pager stuff and simply pipe the message
through the pager program, either the htmlviewer script from my other
post or just w3m -T text/html (or the lynx equivalent, if you prefer).
You could also create a macro to execute the pipe.  The disadvantage to
the piping approach is that it's not automatic--you have to know that
the message content is HTML.

HTH,
Gary

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Re: folder-hook push not responding as expected.

2002-06-26 Thread Nicolas Rachinsky


Please do NOT reply to random messages, create a new thread instead.

* Vikram Goyal [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-26 23:29 +0530]:
 I have defined a folder-hook as:
 folder-hook !Trash push enter-commandunset maildir_trashenter
 
 But the error coming is 'push too many arguments'

try
folder-hook !Trash push 'enter-commandunset maildir_trashenter'

Nicolas



Re: folder-hook push not responding as expected.

2002-06-26 Thread Gary Johnson

On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:29:23PM +0530, Vikram Goyal wrote:

 I have defined a folder-hook as:
 folder-hook !Trash push enter-commandunset maildir_trashenter
 
 But the error coming is 'push too many arguments'
 
 How can I resolve this. Please point me where I am wrong.

That's because the folder hook sees the command

push enter-commandunset maildir_trashenter

so the push command sees the two arguments

enter-commandunset

and

maildir_trashenter

The solution is to quote the argument to push.  I think this will work,
but I haven't tested it.

folder-hook !Trash 'push enter-commandunset maildir_trashenter'

HTH,
Gary

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Re: folder-hook push not responding as expected.

2002-06-26 Thread Cedric Duval

Vikram Goyal wrote:
 I have defined a folder-hook as:
 folder-hook !Trash push enter-commandunset maildir_trashenter

 But the error coming is 'push too many arguments'

 How can I resolve this. Please point me where I am wrong.

Try this:

  folder-hook !Trash 'push enter-commandunset maildir_trashenter'

PS: when coming with a new question, please start a new thread
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Re: Adressbook?

2002-06-26 Thread Jussi Ekholm

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 Alexander Skwar wrote..
 Which adressbook tools do you use with mutt?
 
 I started using abook yesterday, so I can't really give a solid
 evaluation yet.  But so far so good.  It's very easy to query for email
 addresses from within mutt.  One thing it doesn't seem to have is an
 ability to import csv files to build the DB.

One thing that annoys me a great deal is, that AFAIK you can't, for
example, forward/bounce emails with abook. At least I can't find
anything somehow related to it, but this:

m   send mail with mutt

Is there any way to forward emails with abook's address database? Well,
it's not a BIG deal, but kinda annoying for me to keep two different
address databases simultaneously...

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Re: Adressbook?

2002-06-26 Thread David T-G

Jussi --

...and then Jussi Ekholm said...
% 
% -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
% Hash: SHA1
% 
...
% One thing that annoys me a great deal is, that AFAIK you can't, for
% example, forward/bounce emails with abook. At least I can't find
% anything somehow related to it, but this:
% 
%   m   send mail with mutt

Once you press 'f' to forward a new mail, can't you hit tab or Q to
query abook?  You're at the To: prompt, and so it seems like it oughta
work...


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Mutt in Gnome Terminal

2002-06-26 Thread Robert Ian Smit

Hi,

Don't know where to go to first with this problem, so y'all please be my
victim ;)

I run mutt in a gnome-terminal. I use LC_CTYPE=en_US, so defined in
.bashrc. So far so good.

I also have a shortcut aka launcher with a nice mutt icon that
starts a gnome-terminal with a larger than default geometry and
--command mutt.

When launched this way mutt does not show any special (i.e. accented)
chars). When I run the shell command locale from within mutt my LC_CTYPE is
empty. The funny thing is when I remove the --command parm from the
launcher and then start mutt manually, LC_CTYPE is defined
correctly as are the special characters.

Basically mutt works like I want in every situation I can imagine,
except when launched from the desktop with my handy-dandy mutt-icon.

I don't know if the --command option for gnome-terminal causes a
different environment to be set. And if so if it's a feature or a
bug. After searching faqs, checking manuals and browsing bugzillas,
I give up. Would some kind soul shed some light on my frustrating
situation?

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Re: Mutt in Gnome Terminal

2002-06-26 Thread David T-G

Bob --

...and then Robert Ian Smit said...
% 
% Hi,

Hello!


% 
% Don't know where to go to first with this problem, so y'all please be my
% victim ;)

*griN*


% 
...
% I also have a shortcut aka launcher with a nice mutt icon that
% starts a gnome-terminal with a larger than default geometry and
% --command mutt.

When you start that command how does your mutt get any environment
settings?  Unless bash runs to set it before calling mutt then you won't
see it.

Try putting mutt in a wrapper that sets your vars and is called by 
your --command shortcut and see what it gets you.


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Re: Mutt in Gnome Terminal

2002-06-26 Thread David T-G

Bob --

...and then David T-G said...
% 
...
% Try putting mutt in a wrapper that sets your vars and is called by 
% your --command shortcut and see what it gets you.

Note that I don't necessarily propose this as a permanent solution but
instead a way to debug.  What you need in the long run, especially if my
suspicion is right, is to get those vars exported early on so that your
entire windowing session and every subshell and every process will
inherit them.


HAND

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Re: Mutt in Gnome Terminal

2002-06-26 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp

On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 09:18:54PM +0200, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
 Hi,

hello.

 I don't know if the --command option for gnome-terminal causes a
 different environment to be set. And if so if it's a feature or a
 bug. After searching faqs, checking manuals and browsing bugzillas,
 I give up. Would some kind soul shed some light on my frustrating
 situation?

i don't know why this is happening but why not try:

gnome-terminal --command . /home/logname/.bashrc;mutt

?

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Re: Mutt in Gnome Terminal

2002-06-26 Thread Gerhard Hring

* Robert Ian Smit [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-06-26 21:18 +0200]:
 Hi,
 
 Don't know where to go to first with this problem, so y'all please be my
 victim ;)
 
 I run mutt in a gnome-terminal. I use LC_CTYPE=en_US, so defined in
 .bashrc. So far so good.

I'm pretty sure it has to do with login-shell vs. interactive shell. I
wish I really understood that, but you could try setting LC_CTYPE in
~/.bash_profile instead. This is what man bash says:

~/.bash_profile
The personal initialization file, executed for login shells

~/.bashrc
The individual per-interactive-shell startup file

HTH,

Gerhard
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Re: Mutt in Gnome Terminal

2002-06-26 Thread Vineet Kumar

* Peter T. Abplanalp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020626 12:29]:
 On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 09:18:54PM +0200, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
  Hi,
 
 hello.
 
  I don't know if the --command option for gnome-terminal causes a
  different environment to be set. And if so if it's a feature or a
  bug. After searching faqs, checking manuals and browsing bugzillas,
  I give up. Would some kind soul shed some light on my frustrating
  situation?
 
 i don't know why this is happening but why not try:
 
 gnome-terminal --command . /home/logname/.bashrc;mutt

I'm guessing this wouldn't work, as . is a shell builtin. If
gnome-terminal were running the command in a shell, $OP wouldn't have
the problem in the first place!

A better suggestion (As David T-G gave) is to get that environment
variable in your parent process' environment, maybe with ~/.Xsession or
similar.

good times,
Vineet
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Re: Mutt in Gnome Terminal

2002-06-26 Thread Robert Ian Smit

On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 09:31:45PM +0200, Gerhard Häring wrote:

 I'm pretty sure it has to do with login-shell vs. interactive shell. I
 wish I really understood that, but you could try setting LC_CTYPE in
 ~/.bash_profile instead. 

I thought of that. I already changed .bash_profile to source
.bashrc.

At first, logging in on a text console would give me the problem I
described. After the change to .bash_profile it went away.

Thanks for mentioning it anyway. I didn't know the difference myself
only a couple of hours ago.

Bob



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Re: Mutt in Gnome Terminal

2002-06-26 Thread Peter T. Abplanalp

On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 09:18:54PM +0200, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Don't know where to go to first with this problem, so y'all please be my
 victim ;)
 
 I run mutt in a gnome-terminal. I use LC_CTYPE=en_US, so defined in
 .bashrc. So far so good.
 
 I also have a shortcut aka launcher with a nice mutt icon that
 starts a gnome-terminal with a larger than default geometry and
 --command mutt.
 
 When launched this way mutt does not show any special (i.e. accented)
 chars). When I run the shell command locale from within mutt my LC_CTYPE is
 empty. The funny thing is when I remove the --command parm from the
 launcher and then start mutt manually, LC_CTYPE is defined
 correctly as are the special characters.
 
 Basically mutt works like I want in every situation I can imagine,
 except when launched from the desktop with my handy-dandy mutt-icon.
 
 I don't know if the --command option for gnome-terminal causes a
 different environment to be set. And if so if it's a feature or a
 bug. After searching faqs, checking manuals and browsing bugzillas,
 I give up. Would some kind soul shed some light on my frustrating
 situation?

have you tried playing with the --login and --nologin options to
gnome-terminal?  from man gnome-terminal:

   --nologin
   This option indicates that the  shell  started  by
   Gnome  Terminal  should not be a login shell but a
   regular shell.

   --login This option indicates that the  shell  started  by
   Gnome Terminal should be a login shell (this trick
   is cleverly achieved in the Unix world by  running
   the  shell but telling the shell that its name has
   a dash in the front.  Very clever).

you might also play with where you put lc_type in conjunction with
these gnome-terminal options.

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Re: Mutt in Gnome Terminal

2002-06-26 Thread Robert Ian Smit

First of all thanks to all the people for replying. I will respond
to this message.
 
 % I also have a shortcut aka launcher with a nice mutt icon that
 % starts a gnome-terminal with a larger than default geometry and
 % --command mutt.
 
 When you start that command how does your mutt get any environment
 settings?  Unless bash runs to set it before calling mutt then you won't
 see it.

Well, I don't know. My understanding was that the terminal starts a
new shell and optionally runs a command. I checked the manual and
there's nothing there changed my initial belief. Hence my question
whether I am dealing with a feature or a bug.

 Try putting mutt in a wrapper that sets your vars and is called by 
 your --command shortcut and see what it gets you.

That works beautifully. Since this is my first scipt I am not
sure what I have done. The script works with #!/bin/sh as the
first line and without it. 

I have also tried to put some different things behind --command,
like echo foofoo.txt. This never works and even sometimes causes a
startup error. 

After some sleep I will try to search the gnome bugzilla again and
see if there is something that describes problems with the --command
option.

For now I am happy I can click to get some mutt.

Bob




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status_format

2002-06-26 Thread Sadiq Al-Lawatia

Hello Everyone,

Is there a way of getting %f to just display the mailbox name rather
than the full pathname of it? I have mailboxes nested in
sub-directories and the name run off off the screen, so having just
the mailbox name would really make it helpful.

Thanx.

-Sadiq




Re: Mutt in Gnome Terminal

2002-06-26 Thread Michael Mauch

Robert Ian Smit wrote:

 I have also tried to put some different things behind --command,
 like echo foofoo.txt. This never works and even sometimes causes a
 startup error. 

This cannot work. The redirection () is a shell feature, but
--command does not start a shell, it only spawns the executable given.
Try:

  gnome-terminal --command='sh -c echo foo foo.txt'
or 
  gnome-terminal --command='sh -c locale locale.txt'

 After some sleep I will try to search the gnome bugzilla again and
 see if there is something that describes problems with the --command
 option.

Try setting your LC_CTYPE in /etc/profile (or /etc/profile.local if that
exists). Restart X to make sure gdm (or kdm/xdm) gets restarted.

You could also try to use the --login for gnome-terminal.

Regards...
Michael



Re: Mutt in Gnome Terminal

2002-06-26 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 12:35 26 Jun 2002, Vineet Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| * Peter T. Abplanalp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020626 12:29]:
|   I don't know if the --command option for gnome-terminal causes a
|   different environment to be set. And if so if it's a feature or a
|   bug. After searching faqs, checking manuals and browsing bugzillas,
|   I give up. Would some kind soul shed some light on my frustrating
|   situation?
|  i don't know why this is happening but why not try:
|  gnome-terminal --command . /home/logname/.bashrc;mutt
| I'm guessing this wouldn't work, as . is a shell builtin. If
| gnome-terminal were running the command in a shell, $OP wouldn't have
| the problem in the first place!

No: .bashrc is _interactive_ shells only.

| A better suggestion (As David T-G gave) is to get that environment
| variable in your parent process' environment, maybe with ~/.Xsession or
| similar.

This is indeed a better suggestion, regardless of the above.
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browsing folders

2002-06-26 Thread SB


My procmail puts incoming mail to different files(folders).
Is there an easy way to view and browse these folders within
mutt? Does mutt highlight the folders with new malis?

--st.