RE: [MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
I already emailed about this, and the developers seemed keen to add it in. -Josh From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisa Stroyan Sent: Friday, 17 September 2010 1:16 PM To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions At 08:47 PM 9/16/2010, you wrote: Hmm. I'm curious to know the reasoning behind not having live sync'ing (ala Google spreadsheets). Personally, I'd feel a lot more secure not having to worry about cron jobs or remembering to manually sync... rather, just having ML reflect new or edited tasks in the cloud within seconds. I'll second that. I have a temporary Android sync solution working but it's annoying that I have to hit sync everywhere to see things show up (or go away when marked off). Lisa Lisa Stroyan, mailto:lstro...@gmail.com mailto:lstro...@gmail.com%a0 http://www.empathic-parenting.comhttp://www.empathic-parenting.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. Disclaimer: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual(s) named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this email. Please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it, and notify the sender. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. To the maximum extent permitted by law, Immersive Technologies Pty. Ltd. does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which arise as a result of email transmission. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
Andrey, Just a general conceptual question about syncing with the cloud. Is syncing strictly a manual process, or is there any automatic or background syncing going on? IOW, if I am working at home do I need to sync with the cloud before I go to the office, and then do I need to sync the office computer to the cloud before working on the office computer? What happens if changes are made at home, but not synced to the cloud, then changes are made at the office? When syncing finally occurs is anything lost under that scenario? Just looking for the general concept necessary to make this work, Thanks, Paul -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
Pottster, see more on this here: http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/browse_thread/thread/2f85f82025a90b33# Andrey. On Sep 4, 12:29 am, pottster kenwarren...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mark. Didn't know about this. Any chance of having this link in a sticky post Andrey? It could be a suggestions and feature request forum while this group could still be for problems/questions/likes/dislikes/announcements/ betas etc On Sep 3, 8:59 pm, Mark Levison m...@mlevison.com wrote: http://mlo.uservoice.com/forums/9235-general-exists - I started a few years ago. Add to it and invite others. Eventually Andrey will jump on board. Eventually I will be king of the world to :-) Cheers Mark On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:29 AM, kitus marc.garcia.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Andrey, if the quoted text is the case, then do listen to our voice by enabling UserVoice.com as requested in many threads so you can stop tracking things manually thus eliminating part of the Much of manual work that you are doing in order to track our request by missusing a discussion group... my humble opinion, hope you don't take this wrong ;) On 2 Set, 18:52, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) for...@mylifeorganized.net wrote: Much of manual work for me but ... I want to keep my users happy :) Andrey. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commylifeorganized%2Bunsubscribe@ googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
Paul, Just a general conceptual question about syncing with the cloud. Is syncing strictly a manual process, or is there any automatic or background syncing going on? You should sync manually or setup your windows scheduler to sync periodically using MLO command line. IOW, if I am working at home do I need to sync with the cloud before I go to the office, and then do I need to sync the office computer to the cloud before working on the office computer? Yes What happens if changes are made at home, but not synced to the cloud, then changes are made at the office? When syncing finally occurs is anything lost under that scenario? Just looking for the general concept necessary to make this work, If you changed different tasks you will be fine after you eventually sync home and office. Changes made home and office will be synced to Cloud. If you changed the same tasks and then sync you will see the conflict resolution window and decide which version if the *task* to use home or office. Andrey. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
Excellent update Andrey - thank you! We only moan because we care ;-) On Sep 16, 11:16 am, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) for...@mylifeorganized.net wrote: Pottster, see more on this here:http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/browse_thread/thread/2... Andrey. On Sep 4, 12:29 am, pottster kenwarren...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Mark. Didn't know about this. Any chance of having this link in a sticky post Andrey? It could be a suggestions and feature request forum while this group could still be for problems/questions/likes/dislikes/announcements/ betas etc On Sep 3, 8:59 pm, Mark Levison m...@mlevison.com wrote: http://mlo.uservoice.com/forums/9235-general-exists- I started a few years ago. Add to it and invite others. Eventually Andrey will jump on board. Eventually I will be king of the world to :-) Cheers Mark On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:29 AM, kitus marc.garcia.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Andrey, if the quoted text is the case, then do listen to our voice by enabling UserVoice.com as requested in many threads so you can stop tracking things manually thus eliminating part of the Much of manual work that you are doing in order to track our request by missusing a discussion group... my humble opinion, hope you don't take this wrong ;) On 2 Set, 18:52, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) for...@mylifeorganized.net wrote: Much of manual work for me but ... I want to keep my users happy :) Andrey. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commylifeorganized%2Bunsubscribe@ googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
Re: [MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
At 08:47 PM 9/16/2010, you wrote: Hmm. I'm curious to know the reasoning behind not having live sync'ing (ala Google spreadsheets). Personally, I'd feel a lot more secure not having to worry about cron jobs or remembering to manually sync... rather, just having ML reflect new or edited tasks in the cloud within seconds. I'll second that. I have a temporary Android sync solution working but it's annoying that I have to hit sync everywhere to see things show up (or go away when marked off). Lisa -- Lisa Stroyan, mailto:lstro...@gmail.com http://www.empathic-parenting.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
Andrey, if the quoted text is the case, then do listen to our voice by enabling UserVoice.com as requested in many threads so you can stop tracking things manually thus eliminating part of the Much of manual work that you are doing in order to track our request by missusing a discussion group... my humble opinion, hope you don't take this wrong ;) On 2 Set, 18:52, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) for...@mylifeorganized.net wrote: Much of manual work for me but ... I want to keep my users happy :) Andrey. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
Re: [MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
http://mlo.uservoice.com/forums/9235-general - exists - I started a few years ago. Add to it and invite others. Eventually Andrey will jump on board. Eventually I will be king of the world to :-) Cheers Mark On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:29 AM, kitus marc.garcia.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Andrey, if the quoted text is the case, then do listen to our voice by enabling UserVoice.com as requested in many threads so you can stop tracking things manually thus eliminating part of the Much of manual work that you are doing in order to track our request by missusing a discussion group... my humble opinion, hope you don't take this wrong ;) On 2 Set, 18:52, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) for...@mylifeorganized.net wrote: Much of manual work for me but ... I want to keep my users happy :) Andrey. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commylifeorganized%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
Thanks Mark. Didn't know about this. Any chance of having this link in a sticky post Andrey? It could be a suggestions and feature request forum while this group could still be for problems/questions/likes/dislikes/announcements/ betas etc On Sep 3, 8:59 pm, Mark Levison m...@mlevison.com wrote: http://mlo.uservoice.com/forums/9235-general- exists - I started a few years ago. Add to it and invite others. Eventually Andrey will jump on board. Eventually I will be king of the world to :-) Cheers Mark On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:29 AM, kitus marc.garcia.ma...@gmail.com wrote: Andrey, if the quoted text is the case, then do listen to our voice by enabling UserVoice.com as requested in many threads so you can stop tracking things manually thus eliminating part of the Much of manual work that you are doing in order to track our request by missusing a discussion group... my humble opinion, hope you don't take this wrong ;) On 2 Set, 18:52, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) for...@mylifeorganized.net wrote: Much of manual work for me but ... I want to keep my users happy :) Andrey. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commylifeorganized%2Bunsubscribe@ googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
+1 I don't understand that either moreover when MLO is 30 day trial based On 1 Set, 22:51, Adam Lasnik adamlas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, Just learned about MLO cloud sync. But I'm a bit confused. I didn't find much info on the upsell / sign-in page, particularly with regards to what I'd be able to do with MLO on my Android phone (view tasks? edit them? see different views? etc.) I have a few questions in particular: 1) As noted above, what can I do w/ MLO on my Android device? 2) Other than mobile access, are there any advantages to MLO cloud sync over simply dropboxing MLO data files? (which has seemed to work very well for me over the last year) 3) Is there a reason why a trial period wasn't considered? I'd be very eager to try a one-week trial, even if it meant giving you my credit card info, but I'm not particularly keen on signing up for a service and paying straight away (even an admittedly small amount like $2.50) without more info and hands-on testing. Thanks! Regards, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
This whole cloud sync, worries me a bit. I understand that the developers would love to have a steady inflow of cash on top of product sales and upgrades, but I get the feeling this is the only reason its out there if you see the way it was pushed out there demanding payment first before it was proven. And to be honest I think rather high price if you look at things like evernote, tiddlyspot, other tools that offer free sync. Also if you scan the desired features lists, at least I did not find anyone asking for cloud sync. I suspect there are a many other features that more people want (simple calendar view, text formatting in the notes, etc.) that have received no attention for years. I also fear that we will see that improving other easy ways of syncing between devices (bluetooth, wifi network, usb, etc.) may now be ignored in order to push us to the extra costs of cloud service. Like I have wanted to use the iPhone version on my iPod (if it ever gets released), but worry that cloud sync might end up the only way to sync... then I am stuck with the extra costs (actual, if I have to cloud sync with my future mobile phoneI will quit MLO and find something more flexible). Well, these are my worries, based on what I see in the emails updates I get, and based on my view and way of working in this world. Others will see it differently, I am sure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
1) nothing before MLO client is implemented for Andorid (in development) 2) per task syncing, conflict resolving, speed, sync from anywhere where there is internet access, connect mobile devices, share with other people and more what Cloud architecture can do. 3) yes the reason is that we cannot prevent abusing the system when people will re-create new accounts each two weeks. Andrey. On Sep 1, 11:51 pm, Adam Lasnik adamlas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, Just learned about MLO cloud sync. But I'm a bit confused. I didn't find much info on the upsell / sign-in page, particularly with regards to what I'd be able to do with MLO on my Android phone (view tasks? edit them? see different views? etc.) I have a few questions in particular: 1) As noted above, what can I do w/ MLO on my Android device? 2) Other than mobile access, are there any advantages to MLO cloud sync over simply dropboxing MLO data files? (which has seemed to work very well for me over the last year) 3) Is there a reason why a trial period wasn't considered? I'd be very eager to try a one-week trial, even if it meant giving you my credit card info, but I'm not particularly keen on signing up for a service and paying straight away (even an admittedly small amount like $2.50) without more info and hands-on testing. Thanks! Regards, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
Re: [MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) for...@mylifeorganized.net wrote: 1) nothing before MLO client is implemented for Andorid (in development) 2) per task syncing, conflict resolving, speed, sync from anywhere where there is internet access, connect mobile devices, share with other people and more what Cloud architecture can do. 3) yes the reason is that we cannot prevent abusing the system when people will re-create new accounts each two weeks. On this last point, why not start with trusting that people will behave well and changing the policy if you spot abuse. Abuse should be pretty easy to spot - you see the same MLO client (identified by their license) and mobile device syncing to new accounts every few weeks. Cheers Mark *Mark Levison* | Agile Pain Relief Consultinghttp://agilepainrelief.com/| Agile Editor @ InfoQ http://www.infoq.com/about.jsp Blog http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/ | Twitterhttp://twitter.com/mlevison| Office: (613) 862-2538 Recent Entries: Self Inflicted Agile Injurieshttp://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2009/12/self-inflicted-agile-injuries.html, Why use an Agile Coachhttp://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2009/11/why-use-an-agile-coach.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
Re: [MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
Andrey, thanks for the helpful response! I'll look into cloud syncing again when an Android option is offered, and I think I speak for many when I say that I respectfully hope you re-evaluate #3, perhaps limiting the number of free trials per MLO install. Regards, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
Trust works both ways Andrey! People are trusting you with their unencrypted data ;-) On Sep 2, 4:05 pm, Adam Lasnik a...@lasnik.net wrote: Andrey, thanks for the helpful response! I'll look into cloud syncing again when an Android option is offered, and I think I speak for many when I say that I respectfully hope you re-evaluate #3, perhaps limiting the number of free trials per MLO install. Regards, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
Good point pottster! :) On Sep 2, 7:25 pm, pottster kenwarren...@gmail.com wrote: Trust works both ways Andrey! People are trusting you with their unencrypted data ;-) On Sep 2, 4:05 pm, Adam Lasnik a...@lasnik.net wrote: Andrey, thanks for the helpful response! I'll look into cloud syncing again when an Android option is offered, and I think I speak for many when I say that I respectfully hope you re-evaluate #3, perhaps limiting the number of free trials per MLO install. Regards, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
[MLO] Re: Cloud sync questions
On this last point, why not start with trusting that people will behave well and changing the policy if you spot abuse. Already spotted an abuse. Abuse should be pretty easy to spot - you see the same MLO client (identified by their license) and mobile device syncing to new accounts every few weeks. Unfortunately it is not so easy in the current implementation. Besides there are hacked versions. There are trial versions without activation codes. I do trust you personally, Mark and all the registered users, however implementing free trial for Cloud for everybody who downloaded MLO- Desktop for evaluation is not easy for me at the moment. This is why $2.95 for 30 days subscriptions was introduced. Well... if you still think it is too much :) I can offer a workaround. Everybody can post to this tread what you like about MLO (see the instructions in the beginning of the thread): http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized/browse_thread/thread/866fbfdec48f64ce/701760e4612d76c7 Send me the link to your post and I will send you the code for the free Cloud trial. Much of manual work for me but ... I want to keep my users happy :) Andrey. On Sep 2, 5:45 pm, Mark Levison m...@mlevison.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO) for...@mylifeorganized.net wrote: 1) nothing before MLO client is implemented for Andorid (in development) 2) per task syncing, conflict resolving, speed, sync from anywhere where there is internet access, connect mobile devices, share with other people and more what Cloud architecture can do. 3) yes the reason is that we cannot prevent abusing the system when people will re-create new accounts each two weeks. On this last point, why not start with trusting that people will behave well and changing the policy if you spot abuse. Abuse should be pretty easy to spot - you see the same MLO client (identified by their license) and mobile device syncing to new accounts every few weeks. Cheers Mark *Mark Levison* | Agile Pain Relief Consultinghttp://agilepainrelief.com/| Agile Editor @ InfoQ http://www.infoq.com/about.jsp Blog http://www.notesfromatooluser.com/ | Twitterhttp://twitter.com/mlevison| Office: (613) 862-2538 Recent Entries: Self Inflicted Agile Injurieshttp://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2009/12/self-inflicted-agile-injuri..., Why use an Agile Coachhttp://www.notesfromatooluser.com/2009/11/why-use-an-agile-coach.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MyLifeOrganized group. To post to this group, send email to mylifeorgani...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to mylifeorganized+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mylifeorganized?hl=en.
