REvoke select rights.

2003-12-15 Thread Sohail Hasan
Hi All,

I have created a database and created a user with select rights to that 
database, there  is a table name  xyz in that database that I don't want 
that user to  view, that's why i want to revoke that select rights from 
only that table, can anyone tell me what syntax of revoke would be used 
here.

Sincerely,

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Re: Getting Records where date is LESS THAN today, AND...

2003-12-15 Thread Martijn Tonies
Is there a BETTER way to do this?

Yes, store a DATE instead of seperate day/month/year values.

With regards,

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Re: REvoke select rights.

2003-12-15 Thread Egor Egorov
Sohail Hasan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have created a database and created a user with select rights to that 
 database, there  is a table name  xyz in that database that I don't want 
 that user to  view, that's why i want to revoke that select rights from 
 only that table, can anyone tell me what syntax of revoke would be used 
 here.

You can't revoke SELECT privilege from the table if you grant privileges on the 
database.
You can grant SELECT privilege on each table that you want to be visible to user 
instead.



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CREATE VIEW

2003-12-15 Thread Lay Hoon Tan
I can't find this syntax in mysql tutorial and the program does not accept
it. Is there another method of achieving this ?

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Re: CREATE VIEW

2003-12-15 Thread Martijn Tonies
Hi,


 I can't find this syntax in mysql tutorial and the program does not accept
 it.

Well, that should give you a hint, shouldn't it?

 Is there another method of achieving this ?

Views are going to be supported in MySQL 5, I believe.

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Can I really have no_wait row-locks in MySQL+InnoDB?

2003-12-15 Thread Dmitry Anikin
Suppose some user issued 'select ... for update', then
went for coffee-break (to think hard on what he
really wants to update in that row). Another client
tries to update the same row and I don't want him to
wait, just immediately return an error, so he could
do some other useful task meanwhile. I haven't found
any no_wait option for locks in the manual :(.

There's a variable innodb_lock_wait_timeout, though, but
unfortunately I can't assign 0 to it (min. value is 1).
Still, 1 second time-out can be bearable (although I'd
appreciate a way to reduce it to zero) but what disturbs
me is that I've read in the manual that deadlock-removing
algorithm aborts transaction which it thinks is most suitable
for aborting (not last-in-first-aborted). Since time-out
feature has something to do with deadlocks can I be
absolutely sure that WAITING transaction will be aborted
and not that which issued the lock?
And also it would be fine to have non-destructive means
to determine whether some row has been locked so I may
just skip (postpone) some updates without rollback
of whole transaction. Is it possible?



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Thanks to All

2003-12-15 Thread Matthew Richardson
Thanks to you all,

In regards to my question about the retreiving the last few rows in a 
database
your help was really appreciated. Chris thanks for that tip and YEP work 
for me
we will read it into a array then read it back in reverse.

Thaks again GUYS and I can't wait to be of help to some one as well

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Re: Can I really have no_wait row-locks in MySQL+InnoDB?

2003-12-15 Thread Dr. Frank Ullrich
Hi,

Dmitry Anikin schrieb:
 
 Suppose some user issued 'select ... for update', then
 went for coffee-break (to think hard on what he
 really wants to update in that row). Another client
 tries to update the same row and I don't want him to
 wait, just immediately return an error, so he could
 do some other useful task meanwhile. I haven't found
 any no_wait option for locks in the manual :(.
 
 There's a variable innodb_lock_wait_timeout, though, but
 unfortunately I can't assign 0 to it (min. value is 1).
 Still, 1 second time-out can be bearable (although I'd
 appreciate a way to reduce it to zero) but what disturbs
 me is that I've read in the manual that deadlock-removing


What you describe is basically not a deadlock situation!
A deadlock means that two sessions wait for each other in such a way
that neither can proceed before the other one has finished its
transaction.

Regards,
Frank.

 algorithm aborts transaction which it thinks is most suitable
 for aborting (not last-in-first-aborted). Since time-out
 feature has something to do with deadlocks can I be
 absolutely sure that WAITING transaction will be aborted
 and not that which issued the lock?
 And also it would be fine to have non-destructive means
 to determine whether some row has been locked so I may
 just skip (postpone) some updates without rollback
 of whole transaction. Is it possible?
 
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Re: Can I really have no_wait row-locks in MySQL+InnoDB?

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Nolan
To elaborate on Dr Frank's thing if you're interested, here's a classic 
deadlock example:

1. Transaction A obtains an exclusive lock on a set of rows which we 
will call R1.
2. Transaction B obtains an exclusive lock on another set of rows which 
we will call R2.
3. Transaction A requests (but obviously doesn't acquire) an exclusive 
lock on R2.
4. Transaction B requests (but obviously doesn't acquire) an exclusive 
lock on R1.
5. Classic deadlock!

There are various ways of dealing with this (with timeouts and graph 
traversal seemingly popular). As you can see, neither transaction can go 
forward. Thus, the almighty InnoDB will think for a moment, decide which 
transaction it has something personal against, laugh at it and force it 
to ROLLBACK.

That transaction can then try again if it doesn't feel totally small and 
humiliated.

Hope this helps!

Regards,

Chris

Dr. Frank Ullrich wrote:

Hi,

Dmitry Anikin schrieb:
 

Suppose some user issued 'select ... for update', then
went for coffee-break (to think hard on what he
really wants to update in that row). Another client
tries to update the same row and I don't want him to
wait, just immediately return an error, so he could
do some other useful task meanwhile. I haven't found
any no_wait option for locks in the manual :(.
There's a variable innodb_lock_wait_timeout, though, but
unfortunately I can't assign 0 to it (min. value is 1).
Still, 1 second time-out can be bearable (although I'd
appreciate a way to reduce it to zero) but what disturbs
me is that I've read in the manual that deadlock-removing
   



What you describe is basically not a deadlock situation!
A deadlock means that two sessions wait for each other in such a way
that neither can proceed before the other one has finished its
transaction.
Regards,
   Frank.
 

algorithm aborts transaction which it thinks is most suitable
for aborting (not last-in-first-aborted). Since time-out
feature has something to do with deadlocks can I be
absolutely sure that WAITING transaction will be aborted
and not that which issued the lock?
And also it would be fine to have non-destructive means
to determine whether some row has been locked so I may
just skip (postpone) some updates without rollback
of whole transaction. Is it possible?
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Re: Questions about indexing

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Elsworth
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 03:53:00PM -0500, Dan Anderson wrote:
 
 I have a database I'm using  for a MMORPG (well, it isn't very
 MM because I'm something of a  noob), and I have a few questions about
 indexing.  I  am storing world data  in a database.  In  order to keep
 everything as  swift as  possible, I have  indexed everything.   And I
 really mean, everything -- a few dozen columns on a half dozen tables.
 
 My question  is, is this the  right way?  I  figure that since

Not necessarily. You should analyze your SELECTS individually and
create the indexes that are going to be used. You may also see where
multi-column indexes could give you even more speed if you do this
(you might be able to benefit from 'using index' to pull all rows from
an index)

The only other thing you should be worried about is the size of the
indexfile; bigger indexfiles take longer to seek through; but since
you say they'll all fit in mem this is only a concern when you're
going to be updating them I suppose.

With such a small database it really boils down to just being tidy;
you don't want indexes you're not going to use.

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Issues with count(), aliases, and LEFT JOINS

2003-12-15 Thread Brandon Ewing
Greetings,

This is driving me crazy.

I'm running MySQL 4.0.15-standard.

I've got a db that tracks switches, servers they connect to, and connections
between switches.

Schema for server:
+--+
--+
| Field| Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra
|
+--+--+--+-+-+--
--+
| server_id| int(10) unsigned |  | PRI | NULL|
auto_increment |
| customer_id  | int(10) unsigned | YES  | MUL | NULL|
|
| rack_id  | int(10) unsigned |  | MUL | 0   |
|
| distance_from_bottom | int(10) unsigned | YES  | | NULL|
|
| switch_id| int(10) unsigned |  | MUL | 0   |
|
| switch_port  | int(10) unsigned |  | | 0   |
|
| size | int(10) unsigned | YES  | | NULL|
|
| label| varchar(50)  |  | | |
|
| base_hostname| varchar(50)  |  | | |
|
| base_ip  | varchar(50)  |  | | |
|
| access_info  | text | YES  | | NULL|
|
| monitor  | tinytext | YES  | | NULL|
|
| hardware | text | YES  | | NULL|
|
| addsoft  | tinytext | YES  | | NULL|
|
+--+
--+

Schema for switch:

+--+--+--+-+-+--
--+
| Field| Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra
|
+--+--+--+-+-+--
--+
| switch_id| int(10) unsigned |  | PRI | NULL|
auto_increment |
| rack_id  | int(10) unsigned |  | MUL | 0   |
|
| name | varchar(10)  | YES  | | NULL|
|
| ports| int(10) unsigned | YES  | | NULL|
|
| mrtg_prefix  | varchar(30)  | YES  | | NULL|
|
| size | int(10) unsigned | YES  | | NULL|
|
| distance_from_bottom | int(10) unsigned | YES  | | NULL|
|
+--+--+--+-+-+--
--+

Schema for switch_connect:

+--+--+--+-+-+---+
| Field| Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra |
+--+--+--+-+-+---+
| switch_id| int(10) unsigned |  | MUL | 0   |   |
| switch_port  | int(10) unsigned |  | | 0   |   |
| switch2_id   | int(10) unsigned |  | MUL | 0   |   |
| switch2_port | int(10) unsigned |  | | 0   |   |
+--+--+--+-+-+---+

The switch_connect table tracks connections between two switches:

mysql select * from switch_connect;
+---+-++--+
| switch_id | switch_port | switch2_id | switch2_port |
+---+-++--+
| 1 |  29 |  2 |1 |
| 1 |  28 |  5 |1 |
| 1 |  30 |  4 |1 |
| 1 |  32 |  3 |1 |
+---+-++--+

Now, I'm trying to get a count of used ports on switches.  I was getting
some weird results, and have broken it down this far:

mysql SELECT
-  switch.switch_id,
-  switch.rack_id,
-  switch.ports,
-  COUNT(switch_connect1.switch_id) AS left_port_count,
-  COUNT(switch_connect2.switch2_id) AS right_port_count,
-  COUNT(server.server_id) AS server_port_count
- FROM switch
- LEFT JOIN
-  switch_connect AS switch_connect1 ON (switch.switch_id =
switch_connect1.switch_id)
- LEFT JOIN
-  switch_connect AS switch_connect2 ON (switch.switch_id =
switch_connect2.switch2_id)
- LEFT JOIN
-  server ON (switch.switch_id = server.switch_id) 
- GROUP BY switch.switch_id;
+---+-+---+-+--+
---+
| switch_id | rack_id | ports | left_port_count | right_port_count |
server_port_count |
+---+-+---+-+--+
---+
| 1 |   1 |48 |   4 |0 |
0 |
| 2 |   2 |24 |   0 |3 |
3 |
| 3 |  49 |24 |   0 |   17 |
17 |
| 4 |  43 |24 |   0 |   19 |
19 |
| 5 |  45 |24 |   0 |   19 |
19 |
| 6 |   3 |24 |   0 |0 |
9 |
| 7 |   4 |24 |   0 |0 |
9 |
| 8 |   5 |   

Re: Temporary tables rights

2003-12-15 Thread adburne






Matt, thanks for your reply,this weekend I was thinking the way to do this work, because I use many times the same temporary table name for differentscriptswith differenttable structure.

All my temp tables begin with 'TMP', I thought grant something like 'TMP%' on tables_priv.table_name but looking in mysql's manual this doesn't work.

But there is a tricky,if you know thenames of your temp tables you can make an insert on tables_priv with the table name:

INSERT INTO tables_priv (host, db, user, table_name, grantor, table_priv, column_priv)VALUES ('host.localdomain','db1','user1','TMP_Liq', USER(), 'Select,Insert,Update,Delete,Alter,Drop,Index','')

and this work!

Alejandro

---Mensaje original---


De: Matt W
Fecha: sábado 13 de diciembre de 2003 22:36:54
A: adburne; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: Re: Temporary tables rights

Hi Alejandro,

Yeah, this issue has come up before. It's not possible to GRANT DROP on
temp tables without GRANTing DROP on the whole database.

The temp tables will be dropped when the client disconnects you know,
right? And if you want to empty the table or reuse it, you should be
able to TRUNCATE it, I think.

And actually, if you can TRUNCATE the other tables (if the DELETE
privilege allows it), isn't that just as bad as DROPping them? :-)


Matt


- Original Message -
From: adburne
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:31 AM
Subject: Temporary tables rights


Hi, I'm granting users to use temporary tables as:

GRANT CREATE TEMPORARY TABLES ON db1.* TO user1;

and having grants on many other tables as:

GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE ON db1.table1 TO user1;
GRANT SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, DELETE ON db1.table2 TO user1;
.

but how make this work

CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE tmp1 AS SELECT * FROM table1;
ok

SELECT * FROM tmp1;
Error: select command denied to user: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for table tmp1

also:
DROP TABLE tmp1;
Error: drop command denied to user: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for table tmp1

I don't want grant select and "drop" global privilege over db1 but I
want use temporary tables, there is a way to do this work?

Alejandro
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Re: foreign keys.

2003-12-15 Thread Victoria Reznichenko
Mofeed Shahin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:42 pm, Paul DuBois wrote:
 At 11:09 +1030 12/15/03, Mofeed Shahin wrote:
 I'm trying to create a bunch of tables in MySQL. I'm having problems
  creating the following table :
 
 CREATE TABLE foo(
  ID INT PRIMARY KEY,
  note VARCHAR(50),
  FOO_ID INT,
  FOREIGN KEY (FOO_ID) REFERENCES foo(ID)
 ) TYPE=INNODB;
 
 The error I get is the following :
 ERROR 1005: Can't create table './moftest/foo.frm' (errno: 150)
 
 I found out that errno 150 means that it didn't like the Foreign key
 constraint.
 
 Does MySQL not support this type of Foreign Key constraint ?

 If does.  However, a foreign key must be indexed, and you have declared
 no index on FOO_ID.  Try this:

 CREATE TABLE foo(
  ID INT PRIMARY KEY,
  note VARCHAR(50),
  FOO_ID INT,
  INDEX (FOO_ID),
  FOREIGN KEY (FOO_ID) REFERENCES foo(ID)
 ) TYPE=INNODB;
 
 Thanks, but I just did, and I got the same error message.
 

Paul's example works fine for me. What version of MySQL do you use?


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NOT EXISTS

2003-12-15 Thread Curley, Thomas
Guys

Any idea why this query will not work in 4.0.13

select batch_id from BATCH
where NOT EXISTS (select 1 from TXN where TXN.batch_id = BATCH.batch_id)

You have an error in your SQL syntax near 'EXISTS (select * from TXN where 
TXN.batch_id = BATCH.batch_id)' at line 1


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RE: CREATE VIEW

2003-12-15 Thread MDaheim
Hi, 

 Subject: CREATE VIEW
 
 I can't find this syntax in mysql tutorial and the program 
 does not accept
 it. Is there another method of achieving this ?

About Views:
http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/ANSI_diff_Views.html
http://www.mysql.com/doc/pt/Unnamed_views.html

Workarounds:
With google you'll will easily find discussions about using temporary or
heap tables as a workaround for views. It depends on your project, if that's
applicable.

Best Regards

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Re: NOT EXISTS

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Elsworth
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:59:32AM -, Curley, Thomas wrote:
 Guys
 
 Any idea why this query will not work in 4.0.13
 
 select batch_id from BATCH
 where NOT EXISTS (select 1 from TXN where TXN.batch_id = BATCH.batch_id)
 
 You have an error in your SQL syntax near 'EXISTS (select * from TXN where 
 TXN.batch_id = BATCH.batch_id)' at line 1

It's a subselect, and subselects aren't implemented in 4.0 - you need
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Re: NOT EXISTS

2003-12-15 Thread Victoria Reznichenko
Curley, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Any idea why this query will not work in 4.0.13
 
 select batch_id from BATCH
 where NOT EXISTS (select 1 from TXN where TXN.batch_id =3D BATCH.batch_id=
 )
 
 You have an error in your SQL syntax near 'EXISTS (select * from TXN wher=
 e TXN.batch_id =3D BATCH.batch_id)' at line 1
 

NOT EXISTS is supported from v4.1.0. You can rewrite your query using LEFT JOIN:
http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Rewriting_subqueries.html


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RE: NOT EXISTS

2003-12-15 Thread Curley, Thomas
Many thanks Chris

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From: Chris Elsworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 December 2003 11:22
To: Curley, Thomas
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NOT EXISTS


On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:59:32AM -, Curley, Thomas wrote:
 Guys
 
 Any idea why this query will not work in 4.0.13
 
 select batch_id from BATCH
 where NOT EXISTS (select 1 from TXN where TXN.batch_id = BATCH.batch_id)
 
 You have an error in your SQL syntax near 'EXISTS (select * from TXN where 
 TXN.batch_id = BATCH.batch_id)' at line 1

It's a subselect, and subselects aren't implemented in 4.0 - you need
4.1.

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RE: strange warning when using an IF statement

2003-12-15 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
I keep getting the following error when I try to run an if statement

Warning: 2 is not a valid MySQL-Link resource in then give the filename

Here is what I am trying to do.
if ($bumpnumber4) {
print (display this);
}else {
print (display that);
}
mysql_close ($Link);

Anyone have any idea what I may be doing wrong?
[/snip]

This code is not your problem, but the line that says
mysql_close($Link); may be. Do you have a MySQL resource in $Link?

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Haw to get specific result?

2003-12-15 Thread Pawel Filutowski
Hello,

I have table like this:

id | product

0 | switch
1 | switch
2 | hub
3 | hub
4 | hub 
5 | wire
6 | wire
7 | wire
8 | wire
9 | wire
.
.
I`m looking for query which give me result as array:
0 -  count of 'switch'
1 -  count of 'hub'
2 -  count of 'wire'

Haw to do it ??

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RE: Haw to get specific result?

2003-12-15 Thread Joshua Thomas
'SELECT product, COUNT(product) FROM table GROUP BY product' will do this, I
believe.

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 From: Pawel Filutowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 7:49 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Haw to get specific result?
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I have table like this:
 
 id | product
 
 0 | switch
 1 | switch
 2 | hub
 3 | hub
 4 | hub 
 5 | wire
 6 | wire
 7 | wire
 8 | wire
 9 | wire
 .
 .
 I`m looking for query which give me result as array:
 0 -  count of 'switch'
 1 -  count of 'hub'
 2 -  count of 'wire'
 
 Haw to do it ??
 
 Regards,  Paul
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Haw to get specific result?

2003-12-15 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
id | product

0 | switch
1 | switch
2 | hub
3 | hub
4 | hub 
5 | wire
6 | wire
7 | wire
8 | wire
9 | wire
.
.
I`m looking for query which give me result as array:
0 -  count of 'switch'
1 -  count of 'hub'
2 -  count of 'wire'
[/snip]

SELECT COUNT(product), product FROM table GROUP BY product;

Now, this doesn't give you an array, but you can use this query to
populate an array in the programming language that you are using, such
as PHP...

$sql = SELECT COUNT(`product`), `product` FROM `table` GROUP BY
`product` ;
if(!($result = mysql_query($sql, $connection_string))){
   echo MySQL Error:  . mysql_error() . \n;
   exit();
}
$sqlArray = mysql_fetch_array($result); // returns a one row array, just
loop through to access all rows

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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Martijn Tonies
Hi,

  So far, it seems that MySQL, MaxDB, PostgreSQL, and Interbase/Firebird
are
  possible candidates.
 
  Does anyone know why we should or should not use any of these?  Does
anyone
  know of other possibilities?

 I was very disappointed by Interbase/Firebird. It seemed to me like a
 MS-Access: a database-engine that works on regular files

What gave you that idea? Firebird (and InterBase of course) use
a at least 1 file per database, but that's all. Can you define
regular files?

 OK, there is a network-server component, but it really has nothing to do
 with an enterprise-DB.

There's a server side process waiting for incoming connections
just like with MySQL, MS SQL Server, Oracle etc etc...


What exactly are you missing in Firebird?

With regards,

Martijn Tonies
Database Workbench - developer tool for InterBase, Firebird, MySQL  MS SQL
Server.
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Re: Haw to get specific result?

2003-12-15 Thread Pawel Filutowski
Thanks for Joshua and Jay.
The querys is that I expect.

Best regards,

Pawel




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SEQUENCES

2003-12-15 Thread Graham Little
I was wondering whether it was possible to make and AUTO_INCREMENT
field instead of always adding 1 and starting at zero, into a SEQUENCE 
type field so that it is say a 10 digit integer and numbers are created 
according to the SEQUENCE.

thanks
Graham


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Re: Excluding Tables from mysqldump

2003-12-15 Thread Egor Egorov
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 We have 2 tables which are roughly half the size of the entire database
 { ~1.5GB}. These 2 tables are rarely changed {1-2 times a quarter}.

 Is there a way in mysqldump to exclude these two tables without
 specifically naming all of the tables {  100} we want to include? 

No. You should specify list of tables in this case.



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RE: SEQUENCES

2003-12-15 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
I was wondering whether it was possible to make and AUTO_INCREMENT
field instead of always adding 1 and starting at zero, into a SEQUENCE 
type field so that it is say a 10 digit integer and numbers are created 
according to the SEQUENCE.
[/snip]

I was wondering if you had tried it in a test table.

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Re: My SQL setup issue

2003-12-15 Thread Gerald Jensen
More information please ... what Operating System, where are the MySQL
binaries and data directories on your machine, did you create a my.ini, is
MySQL installed as a service 

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 Hello,

 I am unable to start MySQL 4.0.  I tried installing it from a mirro image.
All looks OK, but when I try to initiate it, I reveive ERROR moving
data -103 server.  Then I initiate WinMySQLAdmin and I believe I am supposed
to be prompted for Name and Password.  I actually get a window with
several tabs across the top of screen; Environment, Start Check, Server, My
.ini Setup, Err File. but no login.

 Am I doing something wrong?

 Thank you.

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Re: Duplicate combination

2003-12-15 Thread fr0g
Chris Nolan wrote:

Hi!

There are many ways, depending on whether you want the database to 
handle it, or you want your application to handle it.

What you want is a UNIQUE index on surname_original and name_original. 
Assuming the table already exists:

ALTER TABLE names ADD UNIQUE(name_original,surname_original);

This will ensure that, for every row, the combination of name_original 
and surname_original is unique for the table, assuming that the table 
is called names.

To do it at the app level, you could either check before each 
insertion (no good unless you're willing to lock the table while you 
check for existance - not recommended) or add another column that 
contains a unique hash (a bit quicker in terms of database operations, 
but probably not as nice as the DB-side solution).

Hope this helps!

Regards,

Chris

fr0g wrote:

I have a table with peoples names in 3 different languages.
Fields are like: id, surname_english, name_english, surname_original, 
name_original, surname_greek, name_greek.
What I want is to check if a person has been entered twice in that 
table.
The key is ID but I can't have any other field unique, as names and 
surnames are not unique.
I only want the combination of two fields of the same language to be 
unique.
How can I check this?
Any possible solution?



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LOAD DATA INFILE..

2003-12-15 Thread Graham Little
Hi everyone,

I am currently trying to run the following command:

LOAD DATA INFILE D:\mysql\sql\CountryData.txt 
INTO TABLE cou
FIELDS TERMINATED BY ','
LINES TERMINATED BY '\r\n'
(id, country);

Example data in file is:

country, id
AFGHANISTAN,4
ALBANIA,8
ALGERIA,12
AMERICAN SAMOA,16
ANDORRA,20
ANGOLA,24

The table the data is being inserted into is:

+--+-+--+-+-+---+
| Field| Type| Null | Key | Default | Extra |
+--+-+--+-+-+---+
| cou_id   | int(11) |  | PRI | 0   |   |
| cou_name | text|  | | |   |
+--+-+--+-+-+---+

I am getting the following error message and i am not
sure why?

Error 1054: Unknown column 'id' in 'field list'


Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Graham 


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Re: SEQUENCES

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Nolan
Hi,

As far as I know, definitely not. However, you could use an 
AUTO_INCREMENT field as the independent variable
for some application-level function you use to generate the values in 
the sequence.

Best regards,

Chris

Graham Little wrote:

I was wondering whether it was possible to make and AUTO_INCREMENT
field instead of always adding 1 and starting at zero, into a SEQUENCE 
type field so that it is say a 10 digit integer and numbers are created 
according to the SEQUENCE.

thanks
Graham

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RE: SEQUENCES

2003-12-15 Thread Graham Little
I looked in the documentation but could not find any mention of
SEQUENCES. The AUTO_INCREMENT documentation seems to say that you
can change a server variable to adjust the incremented count, but
unless i can put an equation into their, i don't see how changing
that would help.

thanks
Graham

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To: Graham Little; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: SEQUENCES


[snip]
I was wondering whether it was possible to make and AUTO_INCREMENT
field instead of always adding 1 and starting at zero, into a SEQUENCE 
type field so that it is say a 10 digit integer and numbers are created 
according to the SEQUENCE.
[/snip]

I was wondering if you had tried it in a test table.


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RE: SEQUENCES

2003-12-15 Thread Peter Lovatt
Try 

Insert INTO `table` ( `inc_field` ) values (10)

the auto inc field will then generate the next sequential numbers

HTH

Peter


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Sent: 15 December 2003 14:01
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: SEQUENCES


I was wondering whether it was possible to make and AUTO_INCREMENT
field instead of always adding 1 and starting at zero, into a SEQUENCE 
type field so that it is say a 10 digit integer and numbers are created 
according to the SEQUENCE.

thanks
Graham


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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Sven Köhler
So far, it seems that MySQL, MaxDB, PostgreSQL, and Interbase/Firebird are
possible candidates.
 
Does anyone know why we should or should not use any of these?  Does anyone
know of other possibilities?
I was very disappointed by Interbase/Firebird. It seemed to me like a 
MS-Access: a database-engine that works on regular files
OK, there is a network-server component, but it really has nothing to do 
with an enterprise-DB.

It is a mystery to me how the PostGreSQL work. I cannot recomm to use 
any feature discovered in PostGreSQL since some of the more uncommon 
feature are broken.

I have only recently started these evaluations.  BTW, my own background is
from the Oracle DBA world.
Well, the DBMS comparable to Oracle is neither MySQL nor Firebird.
It's MaxDB.
MySQL is certainly popular and seems to have very good performance, but I am
concerned that the lack of Triggers, Stored Procedures, User-Defined
Functions, and Views (to a lesser degree ) will be a disadvantage.
And foreign-keys are a feature you shouldn't miss to.
MySQL does offer them by patching it with InnoDB.
MaxDB appears to be more feature-rich and possibly more
industrial-strength.  How does its performance and stability compare to the
others?
I'm using MaxDB and it's running 24/7 without problem on a web-server 
with a Java-WebApp. Before using MaxDB you should first look at the 
limits that MaxDB has. For example a row in a table may only store data 
up to 8KB. BLOP and CLOP columns don't count, but even for 
varchar-columns 8KB is a bit few. MaxDB has Unicode-support (UCS2) which 
is extremely important for Java-Clients. If using Unicode, 8KB means 
4000chars. CLOB and BLOB-columns in MaxDB aren't comparable. You cannot 
use like or ,,= on them. MaxDB even doesn't have a FullText-Search, 
but to me it's not that important since i can replace them with 
Java-based search-engines like Lucene. MaxDB has a mechanism to backup 
your database without breaking anything. MaxDB supports Server-side 
prepared statement. The JDBC-driver is of good quality. Bugs are fixed 
relativly fast.

My favourite DBMS could be PostGreSQL if i only knew which features are 
stable and which are not. A strange thing is, that the PostGreSQL-people 
decided to use UTF-8 for their unicode-support. In my eyes that makes it 
different to calculate string-lengthts and comparisons. But their 
argument is, that UTF-8 usually causes less disk-io. But does 
varchar(400) now mean 400bytes or 400chars? i don't know.
I didn't take a close look at PostGreSQL yet, so all features that i 
mentioned about MaxDB might apply to PostGreSQL too.

On both, MaxDB and PostGreSQL, you need to perform regular tasks. You 
must update the optimizer statistics for MaxDB, and run VACUUM for 
PostGreSQL.

MySQL, well, i wouldn't know how to backup it, except by using a dump. 
How can i dump a table with binary data? I don't wanna know. A dump is 
not a backup, it's crap. Than there's the lack of Unicode-support, 
Foreign Keys, prepared statements (emulated by client-lib if available 
as far as i know), ... That all doens't make me feel comfortable about 
MySQL.



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RE: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Joshua Thomas
 It is a mystery to me how the PostGreSQL work. I cannot recomm to use 
 any feature discovered in PostGreSQL since some of the more uncommon 
 feature are broken.

Would you care to elaborate? I've used both PostgreSQL and mySQL, but
certainly not all features, and I'm curious about what issues you had with
PGSQL.

Cheers,

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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Nolan
Huh? Not know how to backup a MySQL database? *sigh*

Every night, I do a backup of our MySQL database server that's holding 
all of our mail and various other things (20GB+).

I set the isolation level to READ_REPEATABLE and use mysqldump | bzip2 
to get the result. I've tested the restore and it's fine! A uni project 
I was
working on this year that stored images and other binary stuff in BLOB 
fields was successfully backed up in a similar fashion. This all applies 
to InnoDB tables. I've
heard cases of needing to use READ_COMMITED as the isolation level in 
some cases, as one can run into issues with memory consumption / table 
space problems if your
traffic is high.

To backup those funky sleek MyISAM tables, you could just issue a LOCK 
TABLE statement or two (LOCK DATABASE?), do a FLUSH and copy the files. 
If I recall correctly,
(and I'm sure sirs DuBois and Zawodny will find out where I live and 
deal with me if I don't :-) ), this might be how the mysqlhotcopy script 
works.

Regarding Interbase/Firebird - you're talking about a database with a 
very long and detailed history. The fact there is one file per database 
doesn't mean much - InnoDB has one file per server should you want to 
configure it that way and no stable release allows you to break up your 
databases or tables into files in any fashion other than what InnoDB 
itself decides to do with the ibdata* files you allow it to have. 
Interbase is still one of the most popular embedded databases in the 
world! Even more popular than (ick) FileMaker Pro and (vomit) FoxPro! 
Just looking at the number of third party tools out there
that support development using it is a pretty decent vote of it's 
industry acceptance.

I'm curious as to why you're not comfortable with MySQL. It truly 
features the best of all worlds when it comes to performance options and 
I've found the community support (Read: The MySQL mailing list)
to be far more valuable than any course I've looked at or taken. I'd be 
very interested in hearing more from you, as I'm betting a few other 
readers on both lists would.

Best regards,

Chris



Sven Köhler wrote:

So far, it seems that MySQL, MaxDB, PostgreSQL, and 
Interbase/Firebird are
possible candidates.
 
Does anyone know why we should or should not use any of these?  Does 
anyone
know of other possibilities?


I was very disappointed by Interbase/Firebird. It seemed to me like a 
MS-Access: a database-engine that works on regular files
OK, there is a network-server component, but it really has nothing to 
do with an enterprise-DB.

It is a mystery to me how the PostGreSQL work. I cannot recomm to use 
any feature discovered in PostGreSQL since some of the more uncommon 
feature are broken.

I have only recently started these evaluations.  BTW, my own 
background is
from the Oracle DBA world.


Well, the DBMS comparable to Oracle is neither MySQL nor Firebird.
It's MaxDB.
MySQL is certainly popular and seems to have very good performance, 
but I am
concerned that the lack of Triggers, Stored Procedures, User-Defined
Functions, and Views (to a lesser degree ) will be a disadvantage.


And foreign-keys are a feature you shouldn't miss to.
MySQL does offer them by patching it with InnoDB.
MaxDB appears to be more feature-rich and possibly more
industrial-strength.  How does its performance and stability compare 
to the
others?


I'm using MaxDB and it's running 24/7 without problem on a web-server 
with a Java-WebApp. Before using MaxDB you should first look at the 
limits that MaxDB has. For example a row in a table may only store 
data up to 8KB. BLOP and CLOP columns don't count, but even for 
varchar-columns 8KB is a bit few. MaxDB has Unicode-support (UCS2) 
which is extremely important for Java-Clients. If using Unicode, 8KB 
means 4000chars. CLOB and BLOB-columns in MaxDB aren't comparable. You 
cannot use like or ,,= on them. MaxDB even doesn't have a 
FullText-Search, but to me it's not that important since i can replace 
them with Java-based search-engines like Lucene. MaxDB has a mechanism 
to backup your database without breaking anything. MaxDB supports 
Server-side prepared statement. The JDBC-driver is of good quality. 
Bugs are fixed relativly fast.

My favourite DBMS could be PostGreSQL if i only knew which features 
are stable and which are not. A strange thing is, that the 
PostGreSQL-people decided to use UTF-8 for their unicode-support. In 
my eyes that makes it different to calculate string-lengthts and 
comparisons. But their argument is, that UTF-8 usually causes less 
disk-io. But does varchar(400) now mean 400bytes or 400chars? i don't 
know.
I didn't take a close look at PostGreSQL yet, so all features that i 
mentioned about MaxDB might apply to PostGreSQL too.

On both, MaxDB and PostGreSQL, you need to perform regular tasks. You 
must update the optimizer statistics for MaxDB, and run VACUUM for 
PostGreSQL.

MySQL, well, i wouldn't know how to backup it, except by using a dump. 
How can 

RE: SEQUENCES

2003-12-15 Thread Graham Little
Hi Chris, 

Thanks for your help, i will find another way around it.

Graham

-Original Message-
From: Chris Nolan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 December 2003 14:13
To: Graham Little
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: SEQUENCES


Hi,

As far as I know, definitely not. However, you could use an 
AUTO_INCREMENT field as the independent variable
for some application-level function you use to generate the values in 
the sequence.

Best regards,

Chris

Graham Little wrote:

I was wondering whether it was possible to make and AUTO_INCREMENT
field instead of always adding 1 and starting at zero, into a SEQUENCE 
type field so that it is say a 10 digit integer and numbers are created 
according to the SEQUENCE.

thanks
Graham


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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Sven Köhler
I was very disappointed by Interbase/Firebird. It seemed to me like a
MS-Access: a database-engine that works on regular files
What gave you that idea? Firebird (and InterBase of course) use
a at least 1 file per database, but that's all. Can you define
regular files?
My idea of Firebird is the following:
There a library that can access a file and use it as a database.
that very much like using the MS-Jet-Engine which is the backend to 
MS-Access.

OK, there is a network-server component, but it really has nothing to do
with an enterprise-DB.
There's a server side process waiting for incoming connections
just like with MySQL, MS SQL Server, Oracle etc etc...
Well, the network-server seemed to me like an application that uses the 
library i mentioned above. It doesn't seem to me like a big application 
like MySql or MaxDB. In other words: Firebird seems to be light weight 
DBMS. MySQL and MaxDB have a multi-threaded kernel that maintains its 
own cache, coordinates locks, etc.
I don't think that Firebird's architecture is like that.

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Re: mysql-4.1.1-alpha-win.zip - Missing setup file

2003-12-15 Thread Nelson Velasco
I noticed that too. Does anyone know the reason? 
May the force be with you all!

nelson

 hotmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/14/03 01:53pm 
Clear DayEvening, 

No setup file is included in the ZIP mysql-4.1.1-alpha-win.zip 

Do you know why ??

Cheers
Mark


Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Martijn Tonies
Hi Sven,


 I was very disappointed by Interbase/Firebird. It seemed to me like a
 MS-Access: a database-engine that works on regular files
 
  What gave you that idea? Firebird (and InterBase of course) use
  a at least 1 file per database, but that's all. Can you define
  regular files?

 My idea of Firebird is the following:
 There a library that can access a file and use it as a database.

 that very much like using the MS-Jet-Engine which is the backend to
 MS-Access.

Actually, this is Firebird Embedded. Indeed, a single DLL (with
some additional DLLs if you want additional character set support)
that acts like the engine. Firebird Embedded is single user.
 OK, there is a network-server component, but it really has nothing to do
 with an enterprise-DB.
 
  There's a server side process waiting for incoming connections
  just like with MySQL, MS SQL Server, Oracle etc etc...

 Well, the network-server seemed to me like an application that uses the
 library i mentioned above.

Not at all. It's the other way around: the embedded version is almost
the same as the server-side engine process, but wrapped into a library.

 It doesn't seem to me like a big application
 like MySql or MaxDB. In other words: Firebird seems to be light weight
 DBMS.

Light weight it sure is. Very modest on memory requirements, for example.
A bit too modest sometimes :-)

MySQL and MaxDB have a multi-threaded kernel that maintains its
 own cache, coordinates locks, etc.
 I don't think that Firebird's architecture is like that.

On the contrary, Firebirds architecture is exactly like that.

With regards,

Martijn Tonies
Database Workbench - developer tool for InterBase, Firebird, MySQL  MS SQL
Server.
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RE: SEQUENCES

2003-12-15 Thread Tobias Asplund
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Peter Lovatt wrote:
 Try

 Insert INTO `table` ( `inc_field` ) values (10)

 the auto inc field will then generate the next sequential numbers

 HTH

 Peter

Or just use

ALTER TABLE table AUTO_INCREMENT=10

That way you don't have to enter a record just to set the AUTO_INCREMENT
value.



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Re: LOAD DATA INFILE..

2003-12-15 Thread Egor Egorov
Graham Little [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I am currently trying to run the following command:
 
LOAD DATA INFILE D:\mysql\sql\CountryData.txt 
INTO TABLE cou
FIELDS TERMINATED BY ','
LINES TERMINATED BY '\r\n'
(id, country);
 
 Example data in file is:
 
country, id
AFGHANISTAN,4
ALBANIA,8
ALGERIA,12
AMERICAN SAMOA,16
ANDORRA,20
ANGOLA,24
 
 The table the data is being inserted into is:
 
+--+-+--+-+-+---+
| Field| Type| Null | Key | Default | Extra |
+--+-+--+-+-+---+
| cou_id   | int(11) |  | PRI | 0   |   |
| cou_name | text|  | | |   |
+--+-+--+-+-+---+
 
 I am getting the following error message and i am not
 sure why?
 
Error 1054: Unknown column 'id' in 'field list'
 
 

There is no column 'id' in the table cou.



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Re: LOAD DATA INFILE..

2003-12-15 Thread Roddie Grant
on 15/12/03 12:13 pm, Graham Little at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 +--+-+--+-+-+---+
 | Field| Type| Null | Key | Default | Extra |
 +--+-+--+-+-+---+
 | cou_id   | int(11) |  | PRI | 0   |   |
 | cou_name | text|  | | |   |
 +--+-+--+-+-+---+
 
 I am getting the following error message and i am not
 sure why?
 
 Error 1054: Unknown column 'id' in 'field list'

Your field is called 'cou_id' not 'id' (and 'cou_name' not 'country').

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Re: LOAD DATA INFILE..

2003-12-15 Thread Tobias Asplund
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Graham Little wrote:

doing selective quoting below.

   LOAD DATA INFILE D:\mysql\sql\CountryData.txt
   INTO TABLE cou (id, country);

See how you try to load from a file into the columns id and country in the
cou table?

 The table the data is being inserted into is:

   +--+-+--+-+-+---+
   | Field| Type| Null | Key | Default | Extra |
   +--+-+--+-+-+---+
   | cou_id   | int(11) |  | PRI | 0   |   |
   | cou_name | text|  | | |   |
   +--+-+--+-+-+---+


And those columns doesn't exist.

 I am getting the following error message and i am not
 sure why?

   Error 1054: Unknown column 'id' in 'field list'


 Any help would be appreciated.


Hope that helps.

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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Nolan
Sven Köhler wrote:

I was very disappointed by Interbase/Firebird. It seemed to me like a
MS-Access: a database-engine that works on regular files


What gave you that idea? Firebird (and InterBase of course) use
a at least 1 file per database, but that's all. Can you define
regular files?


My idea of Firebird is the following:
There a library that can access a file and use it as a database.
that very much like using the MS-Jet-Engine which is the backend to 
MS-Access.

OK, there is a network-server component, but it really has nothing 
to do
with an enterprise-DB.


There's a server side process waiting for incoming connections
just like with MySQL, MS SQL Server, Oracle etc etc...


Well, the network-server seemed to me like an application that uses 
the library i mentioned above. It doesn't seem to me like a big 
application like MySql or MaxDB. In other words: Firebird seems to be 
light weight DBMS. MySQL and MaxDB have a multi-threaded kernel that 
maintains its own cache, coordinates locks, etc.
I don't think that Firebird's architecture is like that.


Hmmmyou'll find that the SQL products worth mentioning that are like 
Access are the following:

SQLite, FoxPro, FileMaker

I could be wrong about the last two on some of these points, but all of 
the above are accessed via a library and are not wrapped in a server 
process (FileMaker Server is available, and it seems to
alleviate this). Additionally, you won't get much in the way of write 
concurrency with the above products (which isn't a problem with SQLite, 
as it's designed for embedded stuff).

Firebird/Interbase have all those nice things like row-level locking 
(although it doesn't seem to have multiversioning like InnoDB, 
PostgreSQL or Oracle), deadlock detection, prepared statements, views,
stored procedures, automatic index management, proper SQL-92 isolation 
levels and funky caches for indexes, rows and other weird and wonderful 
metadata.

Here's something you might want to do to see if my research is correct:

1. Install Firebird. Dump massive amounts of data in it and then do 
something like this: ALTER TABE test_table ADD INDEX(some_column) while 
the DB is being accessed.
2. Install some FoxPro or Jet application (or ACT! You'll either laugh 
or cry after trying this with ACT!). Dump lots of data into it and 
attempt a reindex whle the DB is being accessed.

Guess which DB comes out alive?

Regards,

Chris

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RE: LOAD DATA INFILE..

2003-12-15 Thread Graham Little
That is brilliant thank you. I was doing it the wrong way 
around when i was naming the fields.

Thank you for your help
graham

-Original Message-
From: Tobias Asplund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 December 2003 14:46
To: Graham Little
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: LOAD DATA INFILE..


On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Graham Little wrote:

doing selective quoting below.

   LOAD DATA INFILE D:\mysql\sql\CountryData.txt
   INTO TABLE cou (id, country);

See how you try to load from a file into the columns id and country in the
cou table?

 The table the data is being inserted into is:

   +--+-+--+-+-+---+
   | Field| Type| Null | Key | Default | Extra |
   +--+-+--+-+-+---+
   | cou_id   | int(11) |  | PRI | 0   |   |
   | cou_name | text|  | | |   |
   +--+-+--+-+-+---+


And those columns doesn't exist.

 I am getting the following error message and i am not
 sure why?

   Error 1054: Unknown column 'id' in 'field list'


 Any help would be appreciated.


Hope that helps.


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Anyone using dirty reads?

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Nolan
Hi all,

I was sitting here thinking to myself (which can be quite dangerous) and 
was wondering if anyone on the list actually uses dirty reads in their 
apps. If so,
what advantages do you get from using this isolation level? I can't 
think of any myself (damned limited brain...)

Best regards,

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Re: Documentation bug?

2003-12-15 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:12:01PM +1100, Chris Nolan wrote:
 It seems slightly ambiguous - updates are redirected and stalled. The
 fact that the two statements are in different sentences threw me off
 slightly.

Oh, okay.  If you can suggest a more clear version, perhaps Paul will
update the manual with it?

Jeremy

 On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 03:55, Jeremy Zawodny wrote:
  On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:58:53AM +1100, Chris Nolan wrote:
   Hi all, while reading through some of the MySQL docs, I noticed the 
   following paragraph:
   
   |ALTER TABLE| works by making a temporary copy of the original table. 
   The alteration is performed on the copy, then the original table is 
   deleted and the new one is renamed. This is done in such a way that all 
   updates are automatically redirected to the new table without any failed 
   updates. While |ALTER TABLE| is executing, the original table is 
   readable by other clients. Updates and writes to the table are stalled 
   until the new table is ready.
   
   This seems a bit confusing. On one hand, it says that updates don't 
   fail, but on the other hand it says they are stalled until ALTER TABLE 
   is done executing. Am I going blind/loosing my mind (a possibility I am 
   open to) or do others agree with me?
  
  What exactly is the discrepancy you see?  Can you be explicit?
  
  The manual describes the way ALTER TABLE works accurately.
  
  Jeremy
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Innodb in production

2003-12-15 Thread Nicolas Ross
Hi !

Our db server has about 140+ db's for a total of about 1.5 gigs of data.

Some while ago, for a specific DB, I did testing using transaction tables
with bdb. This was a bad experience. I ran into some problems and I had to
convert back to myisam.

One thing I don't like about innobd and bdb is that all the data of all db's
are all stored in one (or many) file in the base directory compared to
myisam tables where data resides in the db directory.

Is innodb stable enough to use un mass production environement ?

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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Martijn Tonies
 Firebird/Interbase have all those nice things like row-level locking
 (although it doesn't seem to have multiversioning like InnoDB,
 PostgreSQL or Oracle), deadlock detection, prepared statements, views,

Yes it DOES have multi-versioning. Actually, I believe it was the
first (InterBase that is) multi-versioning engine around!

With regards,

Martijn Tonies
Database Workbench - developer tool for InterBase, Firebird, MySQL  MS SQL
Server.
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Re: Documentation bug?

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Nolan
Jeremy Zawodny wrote:

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:12:01PM +1100, Chris Nolan wrote:
 

It seems slightly ambiguous - updates are redirected and stalled. The
fact that the two statements are in different sentences threw me off
slightly.
   

Oh, okay.  If you can suggest a more clear version, perhaps Paul will
update the manual with it?
Jeremy
 

Hmm...how about something like:

ALTER TABLE workds by making a temporary copy of the original table. 
The alteration is performed on the copy,
after which the original table is deleted and the copy renamed. During 
this process, updates do not explicitly failed but
are instead stalled until the alteration is complete. Clients wishing to 
read from a table currently being altered are
able to do so as per usual.

My background is in software design, not documentation. Additionally, 
one of my clients asked me to fix
a SCO OpenServer crash for them today and wouldn't let me use a chainsaw 
or sledgehammer, so I'm a bit out
of it.

Best regards,

Chris

 

On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 03:55, Jeremy Zawodny wrote:
   

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:58:53AM +1100, Chris Nolan wrote:
 

Hi all, while reading through some of the MySQL docs, I noticed the 
following paragraph:

|ALTER TABLE| works by making a temporary copy of the original table. 
The alteration is performed on the copy, then the original table is 
deleted and the new one is renamed. This is done in such a way that all 
updates are automatically redirected to the new table without any failed 
updates. While |ALTER TABLE| is executing, the original table is 
readable by other clients. Updates and writes to the table are stalled 
until the new table is ready.

This seems a bit confusing. On one hand, it says that updates don't 
fail, but on the other hand it says they are stalled until ALTER TABLE 
is done executing. Am I going blind/loosing my mind (a possibility I am 
open to) or do others agree with me?
   

What exactly is the discrepancy you see?  Can you be explicit?

The manual describes the way ALTER TABLE works accurately.

Jeremy
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Re: Innodb in production

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Nolan
InnoDB is extremely stable!

I have a single InnoDB database that's currently holding about 20GB 
(with about 95% of that in a single table).

All of this database is contained inside a single InnoDB tablespace 
file. In the last 12 months, the only command
I've thrown at it by hand was ALTER TABLE messageblks TYPE = InnoDB, 
and only because I wanted to
see how long it would take.

Hope this helps!

Regards,

Chris

Nicolas Ross wrote:

Hi !

Our db server has about 140+ db's for a total of about 1.5 gigs of data.

Some while ago, for a specific DB, I did testing using transaction tables
with bdb. This was a bad experience. I ran into some problems and I had to
convert back to myisam.
One thing I don't like about innobd and bdb is that all the data of all db's
are all stored in one (or many) file in the base directory compared to
myisam tables where data resides in the db directory.
Is innodb stable enough to use un mass production environement ?

Nicolas



 



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Re: Innodb in production

2003-12-15 Thread Eduardo D Piovesam

 Is innodb stable enough to use un mass production environement ?

Yes, it's.

We use it on a 24x7 system (replicated), with 20GB w/no issues. We're using
4.0.16 on NetWare6.5.

Eduardo

- Original Message -
From: Nicolas Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:13 PM
Subject: Innodb in production


 Hi !

 Our db server has about 140+ db's for a total of about 1.5 gigs of data.

 Some while ago, for a specific DB, I did testing using transaction tables
 with bdb. This was a bad experience. I ran into some problems and I had to
 convert back to myisam.

 One thing I don't like about innobd and bdb is that all the data of all
db's
 are all stored in one (or many) file in the base directory compared to
 myisam tables where data resides in the db directory.

 Is innodb stable enough to use un mass production environement ?

 Nicolas



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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Nolan
Martijn Tonies wrote:

Firebird/Interbase have all those nice things like row-level locking
(although it doesn't seem to have multiversioning like InnoDB,
PostgreSQL or Oracle), deadlock detection, prepared statements, views,
   

Yes it DOES have multi-versioning. Actually, I believe it was the
first (InterBase that is) multi-versioning engine around!
With regards,

Martijn Tonies
Database Workbench - developer tool for InterBase, Firebird, MySQL  MS SQL
Server.
Upscene Productions
http://www.upscene.com
 

Really? I feel smarter already!

Do you have any documentation regarding Firebird's workings that you 
would recommend looking through (of similar or deeper
detail than PostgreSQL's, MySQL's and the stuff in the internals.texi 
file that comes with 4.1.1). If I can avoid reading source code though,
I'd like to at this point (wxWindows programming has been getting to me 
lately).

Chris

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Re: Innodb in production

2003-12-15 Thread Eduardo D Piovesam
Hi,

 How are you doing backups???

Since it's replicated, I stop the slave and copy the entire database
directory.

Then, I restart the server and the slave will get all the queries from the
master...

Works very well!

Eduardo


- Original Message -
From: Arnoldus Th.J. Koeleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Eduardo D Piovesam' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:38 PM
Subject: RE: Innodb in production


 How are you doing backups???


 -Original Message-
 From: Eduardo D Piovesam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 10:31 AM
 To: Nicolas Ross; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Innodb in production



  Is innodb stable enough to use un mass production environement ?

 Yes, it's.

 We use it on a 24x7 system (replicated), with 20GB w/no issues. We're
 using 4.0.16 on NetWare6.5.

 Eduardo

 - Original Message -
 From: Nicolas Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:13 PM
 Subject: Innodb in production


  Hi !
 
  Our db server has about 140+ db's for a total of about 1.5 gigs of
  data.
 
  Some while ago, for a specific DB, I did testing using transaction
  tables with bdb. This was a bad experience. I ran into some problems
  and I had to convert back to myisam.
 
  One thing I don't like about innobd and bdb is that all the data of
  all
 db's
  are all stored in one (or many) file in the base directory compared to

  myisam tables where data resides in the db directory.
 
  Is innodb stable enough to use un mass production environement ?
 
  Nicolas
 
 
 
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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Martijn Tonies
Hi Chris,

 Firebird/Interbase have all those nice things like row-level locking
 (although it doesn't seem to have multiversioning like InnoDB,
 PostgreSQL or Oracle), deadlock detection, prepared statements, views,
 
 
 
 Yes it DOES have multi-versioning. Actually, I believe it was the
 first (InterBase that is) multi-versioning engine around!

 Really? I feel smarter already!

 Do you have any documentation regarding Firebird's workings that you
 would recommend looking through (of similar or deeper
 detail than PostgreSQL's, MySQL's and the stuff in the internals.texi
 file that comes with 4.1.1). If I can avoid reading source code though,
 I'd like to at this point (wxWindows programming has been getting to me
 lately).

Well, there's usually lots of documentation available at
www.ibphoenix.com but the site seems to be down for some
reason.

For a quick reference on the history of InterBase (and Firebird):
http://www.cvalde.net/IbRoadmap.htm
And for fun reading:
http://www.cvalde.net/misc/how_appeared.htm

Wanna know who invented BLOBs?
http://www.cvalde.net/misc/blob_true_history.htm

As you perhaps know, Firebird is relatively new to the Open
Source market, but as it started from the InterBase 6 source
code, it does have quite the history :-)

With regards,

Martijn Tonies
Database Workbench - developer tool for InterBase, Firebird, MySQL  MS SQL
Server.
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FW: Replication

2003-12-15 Thread Luc Foisy
I sent this out friday, but didn't see it come through to the list, so sorry if it 
comes up twice if the original is lost in lala land at the moment.

-Original Message-
From: Luc Foisy 
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:17 PM
To: MYSQL-List (E-mail)
Subject: Replication



The scenario we wish to accomplish

SERVER1 - Logging DB1

SERVER2 - Logging DB2
   Logging DB3
   Replicating DB1 from SERVER1 -  Logging DB1

SERVER3 - Replicating DB1 from SERVER2
  Replicating DB2 from SERVER2
  Replicating DB3 from SERVER2

What I am asking is for confirmation that the following my.cnf files would do that.

SERVER1
[mysqld]
log-bin
binlog-do-db=DB1
server-id=1

SERVER2
[mysqld]
log-bin
master-host=SERVER1
master-user=SERVER2
master-password=password
binlog-do-db=DB2
binlog-do-db=DB3
log-slave-updates
server-id=2

SERVER3
[mysqld]
master-host=SERVER2
master-user=SERVER3
master-password=password
binlog-do-db=DB1
binlog-do-db=DB2
binlog-do-db=DB3
server-id=3


To do the initial setup of the slaves I would do the following?

Dump DB1 from SERVER1
Start logging of DB1 on SERVER1

Load Dump of DB1 onto SERVER2
Start replication of DB1 on SERVER2 (add replication parameters to my.cnf and restart)

Dump DB2 from SERVER2
Dump DB3 from SERVER2

Load Dump of DB1 onto SERVER3
Load Dump of DB2 onto SERVER3
Load Dump of DB3 onto SERVER3
Start replication of DB1 on SERVER3 (add replication parameters to my.cnf and restart)

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Exporting data

2003-12-15 Thread Roberts, Mark (Tulsa)
I have an order taking system where the tables are store in a MySql database. I need 
to develop a select statement to output all new orders to a .csv formatted file.
 
Is this possible to do in MySql. I would try looking this up, however, I am not even 
sure what to look for in the documentation. Any help that I could get to lead me in 
the right direction would be appreciated.  Thanks.
 
Mark Roberts 



Re: Exporting data

2003-12-15 Thread Tobias Asplund
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Roberts, Mark (Tulsa) wrote:

 I have an order taking system where the tables are store in a MySql database. I need 
 to develop a select statement to output all new orders to a .csv formatted file.

 Is this possible to do in MySql. I would try looking this up, however, I am not even 
 sure what to look for in the documentation. Any help that I could get to lead me in 
 the right direction would be appreciated.  Thanks.

 Mark Roberts




http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/SELECT.html

Check out the bit about INTO OUTFILE.

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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Sven Köhler
I set the isolation level to READ_REPEATABLE and use mysqldump | bzip2 
to get the result. I've tested the restore and it's fine!
So how does mysqldump handle binary data?

If it does embed the data into the SQL-statement somehow, that's crap, 
since SQL-Statements are limited in length.

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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Nolan
Are they? Shoving in rows that are several meg in size didn't pose any 
problems. The restore procedure looked like this:

bunzip2 dumpfile | mysql -u db_grunt -p projectdb

May I ask where the limitation you mentioned is documented? Maybe the 
situations we were using it in didn't come close to the limit.

Regards,

Chris

Sven Köhler wrote:

I set the isolation level to READ_REPEATABLE and use mysqldump | 
bzip2 to get the result. I've tested the restore and it's fine!


So how does mysqldump handle binary data?

If it does embed the data into the SQL-statement somehow, that's crap, 
since SQL-Statements are limited in length.




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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Juergen Sauer
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so you are forced to pay for Userlicences. Refer to http://www.mysql.com

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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Tobias Asplund

 Sven Köhler wrote:

  I set the isolation level to READ_REPEATABLE and use mysqldump |
  bzip2 to get the result. I've tested the restore and it's fine!
 
 
  So how does mysqldump handle binary data?
 
  If it does embed the data into the SQL-statement somehow, that's crap,
  since SQL-Statements are limited in length.

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Chris Nolan wrote:

 Are they? Shoving in rows that are several meg in size didn't pose any
 problems. The restore procedure looked like this:

 bunzip2 dumpfile | mysql -u db_grunt -p projectdb

 May I ask where the limitation you mentioned is documented? Maybe the
 situations we were using it in didn't come close to the limit.

 Regards,

 Chris


This is limited by the max_packet_size variable.
In 3.23.x it's limited to 16Mb, in 4.0+ it is limited by 2Gb or the amount
of physical memory the machine has, whichever is less.


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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Nolan
Tobias Asplund wrote:

Sven Köhler wrote:

   

I set the isolation level to READ_REPEATABLE and use mysqldump |
bzip2 to get the result. I've tested the restore and it's fine!
   

So how does mysqldump handle binary data?

If it does embed the data into the SQL-statement somehow, that's crap,
since SQL-Statements are limited in length.
 

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Chris Nolan wrote:

 

Are they? Shoving in rows that are several meg in size didn't pose any
problems. The restore procedure looked like this:
bunzip2 dumpfile | mysql -u db_grunt -p projectdb

May I ask where the limitation you mentioned is documented? Maybe the
situations we were using it in didn't come close to the limit.
Regards,

Chris
   



This is limited by the max_packet_size variable.
In 3.23.x it's limited to 16Mb, in 4.0+ it is limited by 2Gb or the amount
of physical memory the machine has, whichever is less.
 

I don't think any of our rows were more than 10 - 20 MB, and we were 
using 4.0.13 or higher the entire time.

If I recall correctly, the way around this is to use InnoDB Hot Backup 
for InnoDB tables and mysqlhotcopy for MyISAM tables.

I guess you're on your own for BDB tables!

Regards,

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Best way to get value of autoincriment after inserting NULL?

2003-12-15 Thread Paul Fine
Greetinsg.

If I have a table like with a column being the PK for the table and being an
Auto Increment value, what is the best way to return this value to my
script? It is possible that additional rows may have been added during the
small wait.

Ie.

Col 1   Col 2   Col 3
AA# SmallText   SmallText

123 Foo Bar
124 GoodGuy


So my script (PHP) for adding records to the database inserts
NULL,text,text into the table but I need to echo back the # that was
created!

My thought was to maybe grab the last entry in the database before the
insert, perform the insert and then query where the file # is greater than
that last entry and where the text matches the columns appropriately.

I imagine there has to be a better way!

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datetime index in 4.1.1

2003-12-15 Thread Tatsuhiko Miyagawa
Seems like a bug in 4.1.1-alpha using datetime as index.


mysql create table foo (d datetime, index (d));
Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.01 sec)

mysql insert into foo values ('2003-12-15 00:00:00');
Query OK, 1 row affected (0.01 sec)

mysql select * from foo where d like '2003%';
Empty set (0.00 sec)

mysql select * from foo;
+-+
| d   |
+-+
| 2003-12-15 00:00:00 |
+-+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)

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Re: Best way to get value of autoincriment after inserting NULL?

2003-12-15 Thread Aleksandar Bradaric
Hi,

 I imagine there has to be a better way!

Yes :) Take a look at the LAST_INSERT_ID() function.


Take care,
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Replication inconsistency questions

2003-12-15 Thread John McCaskey
Hello, I'm currently testing out replication on a high volume innodb based
database.  This has been working great for several weeks, but when I came in
this morning I found my slave had the following error:

 

031212 23:30:24  Slave: query 'UPDATE monitor_tunnel_cisco_phase_2 SET
counter=0, timestamp=NOW()

 
WHERE monitor_id=3735 AND monitor_server_id=1 AND phase_2_id=6290' partially

completed on the master and was aborted. There is a chance that your master
is inconsistent at this point. If you are sure that your master is ok, run

this query manually on the slave and then restart the slave with SET GLOBAL
SQL_SLAVE_SKIP_COUNTER=1; SLAVE START; . Error_code: 1053

031212 23:30:24  Error running query, slave SQL thread aborted. Fix the
problem, and restart the slave SQL thread with SLAVE START. We stopped at
log

 'slave_test_binlog.169' position 6404579

 

I was able to resolve this easily by running the query on the slave, setting
the skip counter to 1, and restarting the slave.  However I would like to
know why this error was caused.  I can find no log of any such error on my
master.  Should a failed query on the master have shown up in my
/var/log/mysql/mysql.err?  What would cause the query to have partially
completed and aborted?  Everything seems fine on the master so I'm not sure
why the query was aborted.  

 

My master is running 4.0.13 and my slave is running 4.0.16 could this be the
cause of the error?

 

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206.633.0449

 



Re: Questions about indexing

2003-12-15 Thread Dan Anderson
 With such a small database it really boils down to just being tidy;
 you don't want indexes you're not going to use.

Well the database is going to be like 200MB and executing several
hundred queries a minute.  Thus my concern about speed.  Is a P4 w/ 1GB
RAM going to choke and die, or will indexing help out?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: datetime index in 4.1.1

2003-12-15 Thread Tatsuhiko Miyagawa
Oops, I didn't mean datetime as index, but like with datetime is
broken in 4.1.1.

On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 03:12:20 +0900
Tatsuhiko Miyagawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Seems like a bug in 4.1.1-alpha using datetime as index.
 
 
 mysql create table foo (d datetime, index (d));
 Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.01 sec)
 
 mysql insert into foo values ('2003-12-15 00:00:00');
 Query OK, 1 row affected (0.01 sec)
 
 mysql select * from foo where d like '2003%';
 Empty set (0.00 sec)
 
 mysql select * from foo;
 +-+
 | d   |
 +-+
 | 2003-12-15 00:00:00 |
 +-+
 1 row in set (0.00 sec)
 
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Re: Best way to get value of autoincriment after inserting NULL?

2003-12-15 Thread jeffrey_n_Dyke

since you're using PHP, you can also get this via the php function
mysql_insert_id(). directly after your insert, i think another insert would
be nearly impossible to get int he middle of these two.

$insert = mysql_query(insert stuff into table);
$last_id = mysql_insert_id($res_link);  (resource link is optional).

hth
Jeff


   
 
  Aleksandar   
 
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  net Subject:  Re: Best way to get value of 
autoincriment after inserting NULL?   
   
 
  12/15/2003 01:13 
 
  PM   
 
  Please respond to
 
  Aleksandar   
 
  Bradaric 
 
   
 
   
 




Hi,

 I imagine there has to be a better way!

Yes :) Take a look at the LAST_INSERT_ID() function.


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RE: Questions about indexing

2003-12-15 Thread Joshua Thomas
Find out the real way: Use EXPLAIN and BENCHMARK() commands to get the speed
of your operations with and without an index. That's the only way to know
for certain.

Cheers,

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 Subject: Re: Questions about indexing
 
 
  With such a small database it really boils down to just being tidy;
  you don't want indexes you're not going to use.
 
 Well the database is going to be like 200MB and executing several
 hundred queries a minute.  Thus my concern about speed.  Is a 
 P4 w/ 1GB
 RAM going to choke and die, or will indexing help out?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
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Re: fulltext search speed issue with SQL_CALC_FOUND_ROWS

2003-12-15 Thread tk
Hello,

  Could one not store the total while using the
 index
  and use select FOUND_ROWS() without
  SQL_CALC_FOUND_ROWS to retrieve the total?
 
 Yes, it could.
 It is the optimization that wasn't implemented yet.
 (but it's in the TODO)

Once again, thanks for the response. 
Could you give an estimation (even if rough) of how
soon this optimization will be implemented? 

Thanks,
TK

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Re: Best way to get value of autoincriment after inserting NULL?

2003-12-15 Thread Tobias Asplund
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Paul Fine wrote:

 If I have a table like with a column being the PK for the table and being an
 Auto Increment value, what is the best way to return this value to my
 script?

If you insert a row LAST_INSERT_ID() will return the primary key value in
this setup.

The other way is if you're not inserting a record, but just want to know
the next value that will be used.
SHOW TABLE STATUS LIKE 'tablename';


 It is possible that additional rows may have been added during the
 small wait.

It is possible another value is inserted in between the query for the next
number and an insert afterwards.
To stop this from happening you can place a read-lock on the table, this
won't allow any other processes to insert rows until you release the lock.

LOCK TABLE tablename READ;
Get Auto-increment value

Do your stuff...

UNLOCK TABLES;

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HELLLLP! Databases No Longer Accessible

2003-12-15 Thread Bob Cohen
I seem to be locked out.  The trouble started when I deleted the Any
user while in phpMyAdmin.  After doing that, I reloaded MySQL. 

MySQL seems to load from the command line using the command mysqld_safe,
except the command prompt doesn't return unless I hit control Z.  Once I
^Z myself back to the command line, I can access MySQL via only one
username. And when I exit as root, the stopped jobs message appears.
When I exit all the way, MySQL unloads and the Web sites become
inaccessible.  I tried following the procedures Paul DuBois' book MYSQL,
including bypassing the GRANT tables.  I know I must be missing
something basic.  Help would be appreciated!

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Status of bugs

2003-12-15 Thread Jim Gallagher
Hello,

Last month I posted here a question (with no responses) about a problem I am having 
with myisamchk (myisamchk Error 22 WinServer 2003 Large table).  My problem seems to 
be identical to that described here:

http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=779

However, that bug was for the 3.x version of MySQL and I am experiencing the problem 
with 4.x.  The bug has been marked as closed, with the comment that the fix has been 
incorporated in the code.   Is there any way short of paying $1500 to find out what 
the status of this bug is in version 4?  I'm not exactly asking for charity - my 
company has bought 4 licenses.  I know that the source code is available for me to fix 
it myself, but I'm not a database programmer, or even a C programmer, so that isn't a 
reasonable option.  I don't have any kind of C development environment set up.

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RE: Best way to get value of autoincriment after inserting NULL?

2003-12-15 Thread Paul Fine
Thanks (to all who replied)

If I lock the table however, if another user is trying to insert (via php
page) another record they will get an error right and I will need to make a
wait+retry script?

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: Tobias Asplund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:56 PM
To: Paul Fine
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Best way to get value of autoincriment after inserting NULL?

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Paul Fine wrote:

 If I have a table like with a column being the PK for the table and being
an
 Auto Increment value, what is the best way to return this value to my
 script?

If you insert a row LAST_INSERT_ID() will return the primary key value in
this setup.

The other way is if you're not inserting a record, but just want to know
the next value that will be used.
SHOW TABLE STATUS LIKE 'tablename';


 It is possible that additional rows may have been added during the
 small wait.

It is possible another value is inserted in between the query for the next
number and an insert afterwards.
To stop this from happening you can place a read-lock on the table, this
won't allow any other processes to insert rows until you release the lock.

LOCK TABLE tablename READ;
Get Auto-increment value

Do your stuff...

UNLOCK TABLES;

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Re: Status of bugs

2003-12-15 Thread miguel solorzano
At 11:34 15/12/2003 -0800, Jim Gallagher wrote:
Hi,
Hello,

Last month I posted here a question (with no responses) about a problem I 
am having with myisamchk (myisamchk Error 22 WinServer 2003 Large 
table).  My problem seems to be identical to that described here:

http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=779
I can confirm you that the bug #779 was fixed. However you are
saying that is similar and maybe it isn't. Please be free for
to open a bug case, explaining your case with the structure
of the tables, what it is exactly the error message you got and if
possible with a repeatable test case.
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Re: Best way to get value of autoincriment after inserting NULL?

2003-12-15 Thread harm
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:42:30PM -0600, Paul Fine wrote:
 Thanks (to all who replied)
 
 If I lock the table however, if another user is trying to insert (via php
 page) another record they will get an error right and I will need to make a
 wait+retry script?


_if_ you lock the other threads will wait. But you really do not need to
lock the whole table. last_insert_id() works (just as the corresponding PHP
function) on a _per connection_ base. See the manual @
http://mysql.com/doc/en/Miscellaneous_functions.html - LAST_INSERT_ID


good luck,

Harmen




 
 Thanks!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tobias Asplund [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:56 PM
 To: Paul Fine
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Best way to get value of autoincriment after inserting NULL?
 
 On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Paul Fine wrote:
 
  If I have a table like with a column being the PK for the table and being
 an
  Auto Increment value, what is the best way to return this value to my
  script?
 
 If you insert a row LAST_INSERT_ID() will return the primary key value in
 this setup.
 
 The other way is if you're not inserting a record, but just want to know
 the next value that will be used.
 SHOW TABLE STATUS LIKE 'tablename';
 
 
  It is possible that additional rows may have been added during the
  small wait.
 
 It is possible another value is inserted in between the query for the next
 number and an insert afterwards.
 To stop this from happening you can place a read-lock on the table, this
 won't allow any other processes to insert rows until you release the lock.
 
 LOCK TABLE tablename READ;
 Get Auto-increment value
 
 Do your stuff...
 
 UNLOCK TABLES;
 

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Re: HELLLLP! Databases No Longer Accessible

2003-12-15 Thread Victor Medina
This may sound crazy, and maybe paul would kill me but try this :)

1.- backup your data base files, just for moment, while we recover the
users data base
2.- erase your data base file completly
3.- run mysql_install_db
4.- restore your data bases, only _YOUR_ data bases, do not restore
mysql internal data bases
5.- recreate your users using the normal procedure

it seems you delete ALL mysql users, this will give you a fresh restart,
lossing users, but not data

Hope this works!

On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 15:06, Bob Cohen wrote:
 I seem to be locked out.  The trouble started when I deleted the Any
 user while in phpMyAdmin.  After doing that, I reloaded MySQL. 
 
 MySQL seems to load from the command line using the command mysqld_safe,
 except the command prompt doesn't return unless I hit control Z.  Once I
 ^Z myself back to the command line, I can access MySQL via only one
 username. And when I exit as root, the stopped jobs message appears.
 When I exit all the way, MySQL unloads and the Web sites become
 inaccessible.  I tried following the procedures Paul DuBois' book MYSQL,
 including bypassing the GRANT tables.  I know I must be missing
 something basic.  Help would be appreciated!
 
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date_format and DECODE Problem

2003-12-15 Thread Raimond X
Hi, i have a problem with getting the right return values from field purrdato.
 All records exept a few are set with date and the rest is NULL. The field allows Null 
values. when using: DATE_FORMAT(purrdato, '%d.%m.%Y') AS purrdato ...it even 
returns '00.00.' on null values.
Is there a way of solving this with DECODE??? I vould like it to return '' instead of 
'00.00.000' for null values. This is the sql:
 
SQL = SELECT OrgNr, Firmanavn, Kontakt, Sted, Telefon, Ansatte, eier, Slettet, aktiv, 
DATE_FORMAT(purrdato, '%d.%m.%Y') AS purrdato, TIME_FORMAT(purrtid, '%H:%i') AS 
purrtid FROM Kunder WHERE eier LIKE '  Node.Key  ' ORDER BY Slettet, purrdato, 
purrtid, aktiv, Postnr, FirmaNavn

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RE: integer not being inserted correctly

2003-12-15 Thread Mike Brando
 
 If an INT has a fixed range, then what is the point of giving it scale? As
 in, int(12).
 
 In Oracle, a NUMBER(12) indicates how many digits you could have (in this
 case, 999 would be the max value).

 Would an int(2) allow -99 to 99, or -2147483648 to 2147483647?

That's because in Oracle NUMBER is a primitive or internal type and has 38
digits of precision. Everything else including INTEGER is a subtype of NUMBER.
So in Oracle, you must limit the subtype or you'll have an INTEGER that can
store a number up to like 10^125. For example, the subtype BINARY_INTEGER is a
signed int with range -2147483648 to 2147483647.


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Zeos, MySQL problem

2003-12-15 Thread DChristensen
Good Afternoon!

We're building an application with Delphi 7.0, the Zeos controls and MySQL
v.4.0.15 which runs on a Red Hat 7.3 server.  We are experiencing a problem
where when a person lets the application sit for a while, we're losing
dataset connectivity that doesn't restore itself.  I've been studying the
documentation and I'm not finding any settings that would stop the timeout
from happening.  If anyone is aware of  what to change, or has experienced
the same problem, please let me know.

BTW, I wasn't sure that this would be the place to post this sort of
question and would appreciate some guidance where I should go instead if
necessary.

Thanks!

David Christensen
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Using matrix.

2003-12-15 Thread Nivaldo Vasconcelos
Hi,

 is it possible to represent on MySQL a Matrix as data type into a table
creation?  

Thanks,
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RE: Zeos, MySQL problem

2003-12-15 Thread Jon Frisby
You can disable connection timeouts at the MySQL server level.  You should
check the docs to be sure, but I think the relevant variable is
wait_timeout -- setting it to 0 should disable connection timeouts.

-JF

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:28 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Zeos, MySQL problem
 
 
 Good Afternoon!
 
 We're building an application with Delphi 7.0, the Zeos 
 controls and MySQL
 v.4.0.15 which runs on a Red Hat 7.3 server.  We are 
 experiencing a problem
 where when a person lets the application sit for a while, we're losing
 dataset connectivity that doesn't restore itself.  I've been 
 studying the
 documentation and I'm not finding any settings that would 
 stop the timeout
 from happening.  If anyone is aware of  what to change, or 
 has experienced
 the same problem, please let me know.
 
 BTW, I wasn't sure that this would be the place to post this sort of
 question and would appreciate some guidance where I should go 
 instead if
 necessary.
 
 Thanks!
 
 David Christensen
 Brokers International, Ltd.
 1200 E Main St
 PO Box 160
 Panora, IA   50216
 (800) 362-1097 or (641) 755-2775
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RE: foreign keys.

2003-12-15 Thread Bob Loeffler
Hi, I don't know much about the foreign key syntax, but I would think it
should reference a field in a different table.  If I'm wrong, I'm sorry.
:-)

Bob


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From: Mofeed Shahin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 9:56 PM
To: Paul DuBois; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: foreign keys.


On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:42 pm, Paul DuBois wrote:
 At 11:09 +1030 12/15/03, Mofeed Shahin wrote:
 I'm trying to create a bunch of tables in MySQL. I'm having problems
  creating the following table :
 
 CREATE TABLE foo(
  ID INT PRIMARY KEY,
  note VARCHAR(50),
  FOO_ID INT,
  FOREIGN KEY (FOO_ID) REFERENCES foo(ID)
 ) TYPE=INNODB;
 
 The error I get is the following :
 ERROR 1005: Can't create table './moftest/foo.frm' (errno: 150)
 
 I found out that errno 150 means that it didn't like the Foreign key
 constraint.
 
 Does MySQL not support this type of Foreign Key constraint ?

 If does.  However, a foreign key must be indexed, and you have declared
 no index on FOO_ID.  Try this:

 CREATE TABLE foo(
  ID INT PRIMARY KEY,
  note VARCHAR(50),
  FOO_ID INT,
  INDEX (FOO_ID),
  FOREIGN KEY (FOO_ID) REFERENCES foo(ID)
 ) TYPE=INNODB;

Thanks, but I just did, and I got the same error message.

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RE: Zeos, MySQL problem

2003-12-15 Thread DChristensen
Thanks, Jon.  I'll try that and report back.

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You can disable connection timeouts at the MySQL server level.  You should
check the docs to be sure, but I think the relevant variable is
wait_timeout -- setting it to 0 should disable connection timeouts.

-JF

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 Subject: Zeos, MySQL problem
 
 
 Good Afternoon!
 
 We're building an application with Delphi 7.0, the Zeos
 controls and MySQL
 v.4.0.15 which runs on a Red Hat 7.3 server.  We are 
 experiencing a problem
 where when a person lets the application sit for a while, we're losing
 dataset connectivity that doesn't restore itself.  I've been 
 studying the
 documentation and I'm not finding any settings that would 
 stop the timeout
 from happening.  If anyone is aware of  what to change, or 
 has experienced
 the same problem, please let me know.
 
 BTW, I wasn't sure that this would be the place to post this sort of 
 question and would appreciate some guidance where I should go instead 
 if necessary.
 
 Thanks!
 
 David Christensen
 Brokers International, Ltd.
 1200 E Main St
 PO Box 160
 Panora, IA   50216
 (800) 362-1097 or (641) 755-2775
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Re: Best way to get value of autoincriment after inserting NULL?

2003-12-15 Thread Curtis Maurand


select last_insert_id();

or in php use the mysql_insert_id() eg:


$somevalue = mysql_insert_id();
print (The last auto incremented number was: $somevaluebr\n);

Cheers
Curtis

Paul Fine said:
 Greetinsg.

 If I have a table like with a column being the PK for the table and
 being an Auto Increment value, what is the best way to return this value
 to my script? It is possible that additional rows may have been added
 during the small wait.

 Ie.

 Col 1 Col 2   Col 3
 AA#   SmallText   SmallText

 123   Foo Bar
 124   GoodGuy


 So my script (PHP) for adding records to the database inserts
 NULL,text,text into the table but I need to echo back the # that was
 created!

 My thought was to maybe grab the last entry in the database before the
 insert, perform the insert and then query where the file # is greater
 than that last entry and where the text matches the columns
 appropriately.

 I imagine there has to be a better way!

 Thanks for any help!


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Performance Question

2003-12-15 Thread Rob Brackett
How hard would it be to modify the MySQL code, and what sort of
performance hits would I take, if I was to try to run a hundred thousand
MySQL DBs on the same server?  Obviously, some tweaks would be necessary
to be able to break up the directory structure of /var/lib/mysql, and I
may be souding uninformed, but would there be much to do beyond that?

Kind of a pie in the sky question, I know.

-Rob-



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Re: SORTing / LIMITing on max(fieldname) blah-blahT

2003-12-15 Thread fatblokeonbike
.
My apologies for taking so long to get back to you.  The MasterMind in 
charge of the project kept me too busy to experiment.
Now that I have, thank you!  It went well, and all is now sweetness and light.

Yrs,

Iain.



fatblokeonbike wrote:
.
I'm seeing double with this, and I just KNOW it's got to be simple -
The table images contains columns:
id | reference_number | image | width | height
That's all it contains, nothing else.
id is auto-increment
reference_number is usually set anew by the operator to input new data, 
but sometimes he returns to an earlier one to change data.
Each new reference_number will not always be higher than the previous one.
The reference_number being worked will not always be the highest in its 
sequence.
There are always eight images per reference_number, numbered 01 to 08, 
with their different widths and heights.
All types are integer.
As the operator inputs new data for the reference_number he's just newly 
set, or returned to, I want his monitor to display, on-the-run, all the 
data he's input for the reference_number he's working (even if the 
reference_number is newly set, he's just input image 01 and there are no 
images 02 to 08 yet) and order it by increasing image number.
Things like:
SELECT id, image, width, height, max(id) AS top FROM images WHERE
reference_number=top ORDER BY image
one of a seeming hundred variants that I've tried, plus others with LIMIT 
and HAVING, just give MySQL indigestion.
(Perhaps I'm over-egging the pudding with the description, but it's 
helping me make sure I have it right.)
I really need a holiday...
Any  thoughts?  (No, not where I should go for the holiday!)
T.I.A.
If I understand you correctly, you need the id of the last insert/update 
so you can pull all the rows with the same reference_number.  You can get 
the last inserted/updated id with the LAST_INSERT_ID function, use that to 
recover the reference_number, then get the desired rows.

Try this:

  SELECT @ref:=reference_number FROM images WHERE id=LAST_INSERT_ID();

  SELECT * FROM images
  WHERE [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ORDER BY image;
Or, you could do it in a single select with a join:

  SELECT im1.id, im1.image, im1.width, im1.height
  FROM images AS im1, images AS im2
  WHERE im1.reference_number = im2.reference_number
  AND im2.id = LAST_INSERT_ID()
  ORDER BY i1.image;
See http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Miscellaneous_functions.html for more on 
LAST_INSERT_ID().

Hope that helps.  If that's not what you meant, give an example showing 
how the output should look to help us see what you want.

Michael

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Re: Performance Question

2003-12-15 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:31:16PM -0800, Rob Brackett wrote:
 How hard would it be to modify the MySQL code, and what sort of
 performance hits would I take, if I was to try to run a hundred thousand
 MySQL DBs on the same server?  Obviously, some tweaks would be necessary
 to be able to break up the directory structure of /var/lib/mysql, and I
 may be souding uninformed, but would there be much to do beyond that?

Or you could use a filesystem that's smarter about large directories.
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Re: foreign keys.

2003-12-15 Thread Mofeed Shahin
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 09:22 pm, Victoria Reznichenko wrote:
 Mofeed Shahin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:42 pm, Paul DuBois wrote:
  At 11:09 +1030 12/15/03, Mofeed Shahin wrote:
  I'm trying to create a bunch of tables in MySQL. I'm having problems
   creating the following table :
  
  CREATE TABLE foo(
   ID INT PRIMARY KEY,
   note VARCHAR(50),
   FOO_ID INT,
   FOREIGN KEY (FOO_ID) REFERENCES foo(ID)
  ) TYPE=INNODB;
  
  The error I get is the following :
  ERROR 1005: Can't create table './moftest/foo.frm' (errno: 150)
  
  I found out that errno 150 means that it didn't like the Foreign key
  constraint.
  
  Does MySQL not support this type of Foreign Key constraint ?
 
  If does.  However, a foreign key must be indexed, and you have declared
  no index on FOO_ID.  Try this:
 
  CREATE TABLE foo(
   ID INT PRIMARY KEY,
   note VARCHAR(50),
   FOO_ID INT,
   INDEX (FOO_ID),
   FOREIGN KEY (FOO_ID) REFERENCES foo(ID)
  ) TYPE=INNODB;
 
  Thanks, but I just did, and I got the same error message.

 Paul's example works fine for me. What version of MySQL do you use?

yeah, sorry Paul's example works here as well. But the actual create statement 
I'm using here is failing. My create statement is stightly different, and I 
didn't think it would make a difference (ooops!!). So here is the actual 
create statement that is failing ;

CREATE TABLE Blah (
ID INT PRIMARY KEY,
Fname VARCHAR (50),
Lname VARCHAR (50),
UNIQUE (Fname, Lname)
) TYPE=INNODB;

CREATE TABLE foo ( 
ID INT PRIMARY KEY, 
note VARCHAR(50), 
Fname VARCHAR(50), 
Lname VARCHAR(50), 
FOO_ID INT, 
INDEX(FOO_ID), 
FOREIGN KEY (FOO_ID) REFERENCES foo(ID), 
FOREIGN KEY (Fname, Lname) REFERENCES Blah (Fname, Lname)
) TYPE=INNODB;

Once again sorry for the confusion. It must be a problem with adding the 
second foreign key.

Mof.


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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Matthew Stanfield
Hi,

I've used both PostgreSQL and MySQL on a Linux server and found both 
setting up (using RPM) and maintaining them very easy (MySQL was slightly 
easier to set up but I set it up after I was already proficient on 
PostgreSQL, so perhaps comparing the ease of setup is unfair). Both are 
well documented and each have very active mailing lists where list 
subscribers are helpful and quick to respond. I have no idea how the 
commercial support services compare in quality and price.

I have not used the more 'advanced' features, that you mentioned, of either 
(such as: 'Triggers, Stored Procedures, User-Defined Functions') so can't 
comment on them.

Backups on both are straightforward using pg_dump and mysqldump. Both of 
these allow you to dump databases as files containing the relevant sql 
commands to recreate the entire database quickly and easily.

Another responder mentioned a possible problem dumping MySQL databases 
containing binary data, I have no idea whether this is an issue with 
pg_dump as well, as I have no tables at all with binary data, but suspect 
dumping these kind of backup files is generally inconsistent with binary 
data (unless the dumping utilities do something clever, which I don't know 
about, like uuencoding binary data). Anyway both servers can be backed up 
by copying the actual database table files (on the local linux filesystem). 
To achieve this the PostgreSQL server must be shut down (making it an 
inferior backup technique to dumping which does not require a shutdown). 
MySQL, however, has something called 'mysqlhotcopy' which will lock and 
flush tables and copy the files using 'cp' and does not require a server 
shutdown, it allows queries by different threads to continue, blind to the 
backup in progress. --I must admit to being a bit wary of this as I don't 
know enough about the underlying file systems and so personally have no 
intention of using mysqlhotcopy. --Perhaps someone that knows more can 
explain whether this is always safe to use and why??

Both PostgreSQL and MySQL have free GUI frontends (pgAdmin and Control 
Center, respectively) that I have used on Windows 2000; both have been 
adequate for my basic needs, EG. Quick database and table creation and 
deletion, sql commands, and basic administration such as vacuuming 
(PostgreSQL) and optimizing (MySQL). Of these PostgeSQL's is better (far 
more features), while MySQL's is still at 0.9.3 beta (stable but feature poor).

My use of both has been low scale and is client program orientated using 
.net and C# from Win2000. The ODBC drivers for Windows both function well. 
The only annoying thing I can think of, from a programming perspective, is 
MySQL's lack of a Boolean type - the manual says use TINYINT(1) which works 
fine but is slightly annoying because of the extra type conversion needed 
every time you use it. Apparently MySQL will be implementing the Boolean 
type soon in accordance with whatever SQL standard requires it. Quite why 
it still has not been implemented, even though MySQL is into version 4, I 
have no idea - as a programmer I find this a staggering omission but 
presumably they have their reasons and perhaps most people are happy with 
TINYINT(1), but for clarity of code TINYINT(1) is inferior to a Boolean type.

I hope this helps,

..matthew

Jerry Apfelbaum wrote:
Hello.
 
I have been tasked with evaluating open source databases for a large
upcoming project:  e-commerce, B2B, high availability.
 
The O/S is most likely to be Linux, although FreeBSD could possibly be used
(lower probability).
 
So far, it seems that MySQL, MaxDB, PostgreSQL, and Interbase/Firebird are
possible candidates.
 
Does anyone know why we should or should not use any of these?  Does anyone
know of other possibilities?
 
Id very much appreciate hearing your comments and recommendations.
 
I have only recently started these evaluations.  BTW, my own background is
from the Oracle DBA world.
 
MySQL is certainly popular and seems to have very good performance, but I am
concerned that the lack of Triggers, Stored Procedures, User-Defined
Functions, and Views (to a lesser degree ) will be a disadvantage.
 
MaxDB appears to be more feature-rich and possibly more
industrial-strength.  How does its performance and stability compare to the
others?
 
Many Thanks.
Jerry Apfelbaum
Toronto
 




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Re: MySQL or MaxDB or PostgreSQL or Interbase/Firebird or ?

2003-12-15 Thread Curtis Maurand
Matthew Stanfield said:
 Hi,

Usually, i'll use enum('0','1') in place of a boolean type.

Curtis

[snip]

 well.  The only annoying thing I can think of, from a programming
 perspective, is  MySQL's lack of a Boolean type - the manual says use
 TINYINT(1) which works  fine but is slightly annoying because of the
 extra type conversion needed  every time you use it. Apparently MySQL
 will be implementing the Boolean  type soon in accordance with whatever
 SQL standard requires it. Quite why  it still has not been implemented,
 even though MySQL is into version 4, I  have no idea - as a programmer I
 find this a staggering omission but  presumably they have their reasons
 and perhaps most people are happy with  TINYINT(1), but for clarity of
 code TINYINT(1) is inferior to a Boolean type.

 I hope this helps,

 ..matthew


 Jerry Apfelbaum wrote:
 Hello.

 I have been tasked with evaluating open source databases for a large
 upcoming project:  e-commerce, B2B, high availability.

 The O/S is most likely to be Linux, although FreeBSD could possibly be
 used (lower probability).

 So far, it seems that MySQL, MaxDB, PostgreSQL, and Interbase/Firebird
 are possible candidates.

 Does anyone know why we should or should not use any of these?  Does
 anyone know of other possibilities?

 I’d very much appreciate hearing your comments and recommendations.

 I have only recently started these evaluations.  BTW, my own
 background is from the Oracle DBA world.

 MySQL is certainly popular and seems to have very good performance,
 but I am concerned that the lack of Triggers, Stored Procedures,
 User-Defined Functions, and Views (to a lesser degree ) will be a
 disadvantage.

 MaxDB appears to be more feature-rich and possibly more
 industrial-strength.  How does its performance and stability compare
 to the others?

 Many Thanks.
 Jerry Apfelbaum
 Toronto





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Re: Anyone using dirty reads?

2003-12-15 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:55:49AM +1100, Chris Nolan wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I was sitting here thinking to myself (which can be quite dangerous)
 and was wondering if anyone on the list actually uses dirty reads in
 their apps. If so, what advantages do you get from using this
 isolation level? I can't think of any myself (damned limited
 brain...)

I almost did once.  The idea was to provide a way for someone to use a
web interface to monitory what's happening *right now* rather than
only stuff that's finished.

Jeremy
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Re: Innodb in production

2003-12-15 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:13:44AM -0500, Nicolas Ross wrote:
 Hi !
 
 Our db server has about 140+ db's for a total of about 1.5 gigs of data.
 
 Some while ago, for a specific DB, I did testing using transaction tables
 with bdb. This was a bad experience. I ran into some problems and I had to
 convert back to myisam.
 
 One thing I don't like about innobd and bdb is that all the data of all db's
 are all stored in one (or many) file in the base directory compared to
 myisam tables where data resides in the db directory.

FYI, that restriction is gone in MySQL 4.1.x.

Jeremy
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Re: Performance Question

2003-12-15 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Dec 15), Jeremy Zawodny said:
 On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:31:16PM -0800, Rob Brackett wrote:
  How hard would it be to modify the MySQL code, and what sort of
  performance hits would I take, if I was to try to run a hundred
  thousand MySQL DBs on the same server?  Obviously, some tweaks
  would be necessary to be able to break up the directory structure
  of /var/lib/mysql, and I may be souding uninformed, but would there
  be much to do beyond that?
 
 Or you could use a filesystem that's smarter about large directories.

InnoDB may help here also.

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Re: Getting Records where date is LESS THAN today, AND...

2003-12-15 Thread Richard
Okay, that sounds good and all, but how does that help me, since the date is
chosen
from the javascript calander in this format: mm/dd/

So then, when I'm selecting a date of at least todays value, or less in the
database
how would I do it, since it's in mm/dd/?

Thanks,
Richard


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Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: Getting Records where date is LESS THAN today, AND...


 Is there a BETTER way to do this?

 Yes, store a DATE instead of seperate day/month/year values.

 With regards,

 Martijn Tonies
 Database Workbench - developer tool for InterBase, Firebird, MySQL  MS
SQL
 Server.
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Re: Performance Question

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Nolan
You may have to increase the size of the table cache, and you will most 
probably need to do something about
ensuring that the mysqld process can open about 1 billion files at the 
same time. There was a discussion along these
lines not so long ago focusing on having massive numbers of tables that 
was encountering problems around performance
due to the above reasons.

Regards,

Chris

Jeremy Zawodny wrote:

On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:31:16PM -0800, Rob Brackett wrote:
 

How hard would it be to modify the MySQL code, and what sort of
performance hits would I take, if I was to try to run a hundred thousand
MySQL DBs on the same server?  Obviously, some tweaks would be necessary
to be able to break up the directory structure of /var/lib/mysql, and I
may be souding uninformed, but would there be much to do beyond that?
   

Or you could use a filesystem that's smarter about large directories.
 



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Re: Questions about indexing

2003-12-15 Thread Chris Nolan
Even if your database fits entirely in memory, not having indexes in 
place would not be a good idea.

In an interview Monty did regarding in-memory databases, he very 
specifically made the point that where
your database is sitting will never remove the need for various types of 
index.

From some extremely boring computer science/software engineering 
subject I did a few years back:

1. If there's no index to play with, you'll need to do a full table scan 
to find the rows matching the
conditions predicated in your WHERE clause.
2. If there is an index or two to play with, you'll at the very least 
cut down the number of rows that
will be read from disk for further inspection should the optimiser 
choose to use them (look up FORCE INDEX(...)
in MySQL)
3. For B-Tree and B+Tree indexes, you're looking at an average of 1-2 
probes (with a probe being roughly
the same expense I/O-wise as reading a row) for finding an item matching 
an = condition and the same for
finding the beginning/end of a range for range-style queries (eg: ... 
WHERE a  20 AND a  40).

Hope this helps!

Regards,

Chris

Joshua Thomas wrote:

Find out the real way: Use EXPLAIN and BENCHMARK() commands to get the speed
of your operations with and without an index. That's the only way to know
for certain.
Cheers,

Joshua Thomas
Network Operations Engineer
PowerOne Media, Inc.
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From: Dan Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 1:18 PM
To: Chris Elsworth
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Questions about indexing
   

With such a small database it really boils down to just being tidy;
you don't want indexes you're not going to use.
 

Well the database is going to be like 200MB and executing several
hundred queries a minute.  Thus my concern about speed.  Is a 
P4 w/ 1GB
RAM going to choke and die, or will indexing help out?

Thanks in advance,

Dan

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