Re: MySQL dying?
On 2014-11-24 3:24 PM, Neil Tompkins wrote: Personally I think people, myself included are using other resources like stackoverflow to get answers to my MySQL questions. Visits to our MySQL article pages (www.artfulsoftware.com/queries.php, http://www.artfulsoftware.com/infotree/mysqlquerytree.php, www.artfulsoftware.com/infotree/mysqltips.php, www.artfulsoftware.com/infotree/mysqltiptree.php) went up 10% from 2012-2013 and have gone up 20% from 2013-2014. PB - On 24 Nov 2014, at 17:27, Michael Dykman mdyk...@gmail.com wrote: Please gentlemen, It is a valid question if a somewhat hackneyed one. MySQL continues to live on in many forms but obviously, would have to lose some ground in the face of the NoSQL solutions which are in vogue. The concepts of relational data are too powerful to stop being relevant but it is not longer the universal data store it once was seen as (The aplies to RDBMS in general). Let's not ugly up this list (which I have been on for an absurdly long time) with flame wars. It certainly does not have the bandwidth it once did, but flames are a terrible way to boost it. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Ruben Safir ru...@mrbrklyn.com wrote: On 11/24/2014 10:00 AM, Johan De Meersman wrote: - Original Message - From: Ruben Safir ru...@mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: MySQL dying? Well, this mailing list is dead. This is a mailing list that used to handle 70+ questions a day, or more. Is that why you feel the need to troll on posts from two years ago? If you think it's dead, unsubscribe and go install MSSQL. If not, either ask a question or stop wasting bandwidth. Bye now. No, but I thought it was interesting to see what has happened within the last 2 years. Its not an issue of trolling. But perhaps Oracle could have learned something from the MYSQL community, which it seems to have failed to. If you find that this post was troll, then you've more than missed the point, you missed the entire boat. Bandwidth? This list no longer produces bandwidth... It has been abandoned. What would you have done in those days when we handled so much mail in this list that there was no time to answer trolls... the real trolls? You have a bad attitude man, and it sucks. Now, back to business.. Ruben -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- - michael dykman - mdyk...@gmail.com May the Source be with you. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
2014/11/26 14:25 -0600, Peter Brawley www.artfulsoftware.com/infotree/mysqltips.php, And this page is an HTML hack, table for column ... generated by a (PHP?) program? *sigh* -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
- Original Message - From: Ruben Safir ru...@mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: MySQL dying? Well, this mailing list is dead. This is a mailing list that used to handle 70+ questions a day, or more. Is that why you feel the need to troll on posts from two years ago? If you think it's dead, unsubscribe and go install MSSQL. If not, either ask a question or stop wasting bandwidth. Bye now. -- Unhappiness is discouraged and will be corrected with kitten pictures. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 08:31:24PM +0100, Heck, Walter wrote: I watched a keynote from Thomas Ulin at Percona Live London a few weeks back, and the slides are quite interesting: https://www.percona.com/live/london-2014/sites/default/files/slides/PerconaLondon14_keynote.pdf Well, this mailing list is dead. This is a mailing list that used to handle 70+ questions a day, or more. Ruben There's a lot of haters (some with more valid reasons to hate, others with little or no reason), but it cannot be denied that Oracle did not let MySQL die.. cheers, On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Ruben Safir ru...@mrbrklyn.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 12:41:09PM +0100, Johan De Meersman wrote: - Original Message - From: Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is shifting to other type of DB's . I think the question has long been answered. However, out of curiosity (and because they are the questions you should ask yourself anyway), *who* have you heard that from, and what might they not have told you? :-) I can imagine there's zealots from pretty much every database that will be claiming similar things about every project they see as a competitor to be stamped out. Hell, Monty himself has been scaremongering plenty around the time Oracle announced the takeover. And for damn good reason. And looking back, it is hard to believe that this was almost true a mear 2 years ago. We are in one of the most rapid rivers of change I'd ever experienced, and most of the change is not good, not good at all...starting with Oracle buying Sun and Mysql -- Linux Bier Wanderung 2012, now also available in Belgium! August, 12 to 19, Diksmuide, Belgium - http://lbw2012.tuxera.be -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- Best regards, Walter Heck CEO / Founder OlinData http://olindata.com/?src=wh_gapp - Open Source Training Consulting Check out our upcoming trainings http://olindata.com/training/upcoming -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
On 11/24/2014 10:00 AM, Johan De Meersman wrote: - Original Message - From: Ruben Safir ru...@mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: MySQL dying? Well, this mailing list is dead. This is a mailing list that used to handle 70+ questions a day, or more. Is that why you feel the need to troll on posts from two years ago? If you think it's dead, unsubscribe and go install MSSQL. If not, either ask a question or stop wasting bandwidth. Bye now. No, but I thought it was interesting to see what has happened within the last 2 years. Its not an issue of trolling. But perhaps Oracle could have learned something from the MYSQL community, which it seems to have failed to. If you find that this post was troll, then you've more than missed the point, you missed the entire boat. Bandwidth? This list no longer produces bandwidth... It has been abandoned. What would you have done in those days when we handled so much mail in this list that there was no time to answer trolls... the real trolls? You have a bad attitude man, and it sucks. Now, back to business.. Ruben -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
- Original Message - From: Ruben Safir ru...@mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: MySQL dying? abandoned. What would you have done in those days when we handled so much mail in this list that there was no time to answer trolls... the real trolls? We? You mean the two mails you sent back in 2011 trying to figure out how to install the C++ connector? *plonk* -- Unhappiness is discouraged and will be corrected with kitten pictures. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
Please gentlemen, It is a valid question if a somewhat hackneyed one. MySQL continues to live on in many forms but obviously, would have to lose some ground in the face of the NoSQL solutions which are in vogue. The concepts of relational data are too powerful to stop being relevant but it is not longer the universal data store it once was seen as (The aplies to RDBMS in general). Let's not ugly up this list (which I have been on for an absurdly long time) with flame wars. It certainly does not have the bandwidth it once did, but flames are a terrible way to boost it. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Ruben Safir ru...@mrbrklyn.com wrote: On 11/24/2014 10:00 AM, Johan De Meersman wrote: - Original Message - From: Ruben Safir ru...@mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: MySQL dying? Well, this mailing list is dead. This is a mailing list that used to handle 70+ questions a day, or more. Is that why you feel the need to troll on posts from two years ago? If you think it's dead, unsubscribe and go install MSSQL. If not, either ask a question or stop wasting bandwidth. Bye now. No, but I thought it was interesting to see what has happened within the last 2 years. Its not an issue of trolling. But perhaps Oracle could have learned something from the MYSQL community, which it seems to have failed to. If you find that this post was troll, then you've more than missed the point, you missed the entire boat. Bandwidth? This list no longer produces bandwidth... It has been abandoned. What would you have done in those days when we handled so much mail in this list that there was no time to answer trolls... the real trolls? You have a bad attitude man, and it sucks. Now, back to business.. Ruben -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- - michael dykman - mdyk...@gmail.com May the Source be with you.
Re: MySQL dying?
On 11/24/2014 12:19 PM, Johan De Meersman wrote: - Original Message - From: Ruben Safir ru...@mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: MySQL dying? abandoned. What would you have done in those days when we handled so much mail in this list that there was no time to answer trolls... the real trolls? We? You mean the two mails you sent back in 2011 trying to figure out how to install the C++ connector? *plonk* /dev/null -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
On 11/24/2014 12:19 PM, Johan De Meersman wrote: - Original Message - From: Ruben Safir ru...@mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: MySQL dying? abandoned. What would you have done in those days when we handled so much mail in this list that there was no time to answer trolls... the real trolls? We? You mean the two mails you sent back in 2011 trying to figure out how to install the C++ connector? *plonk* where were you in 2000, youngerman? plonk is correct. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
- Original Message - From: Ruben Safir ru...@mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: MySQL dying? where were you in 2000, youngerman? Busy writing WAP backends powered out of MySQL and Oracle, if I remember correctly :-) But, indeed, not on this list; and if you were here back then I may have severly misjudged you. My apologies for that. However, I find it hard to believe that you are suggesting that MySQL is in a worse state now than it was back then, let alone that there were more users back then than now... What exactly do you see going wrong under Oracle stewardship? There haven't been this many bugs fixed and new features implemented in years. -- Unhappiness is discouraged and will be corrected with kitten pictures. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
Personally I think people, myself included are using other resources like stackoverflow to get answers to my MySQL questions. On 24 Nov 2014, at 17:27, Michael Dykman mdyk...@gmail.com wrote: Please gentlemen, It is a valid question if a somewhat hackneyed one. MySQL continues to live on in many forms but obviously, would have to lose some ground in the face of the NoSQL solutions which are in vogue. The concepts of relational data are too powerful to stop being relevant but it is not longer the universal data store it once was seen as (The aplies to RDBMS in general). Let's not ugly up this list (which I have been on for an absurdly long time) with flame wars. It certainly does not have the bandwidth it once did, but flames are a terrible way to boost it. On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Ruben Safir ru...@mrbrklyn.com wrote: On 11/24/2014 10:00 AM, Johan De Meersman wrote: - Original Message - From: Ruben Safir ru...@mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: MySQL dying? Well, this mailing list is dead. This is a mailing list that used to handle 70+ questions a day, or more. Is that why you feel the need to troll on posts from two years ago? If you think it's dead, unsubscribe and go install MSSQL. If not, either ask a question or stop wasting bandwidth. Bye now. No, but I thought it was interesting to see what has happened within the last 2 years. Its not an issue of trolling. But perhaps Oracle could have learned something from the MYSQL community, which it seems to have failed to. If you find that this post was troll, then you've more than missed the point, you missed the entire boat. Bandwidth? This list no longer produces bandwidth... It has been abandoned. What would you have done in those days when we handled so much mail in this list that there was no time to answer trolls... the real trolls? You have a bad attitude man, and it sucks. Now, back to business.. Ruben -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- - michael dykman - mdyk...@gmail.com May the Source be with you. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
I watched a keynote from Thomas Ulin at Percona Live London a few weeks back, and the slides are quite interesting: https://www.percona.com/live/london-2014/sites/default/files/slides/PerconaLondon14_keynote.pdf There's a lot of haters (some with more valid reasons to hate, others with little or no reason), but it cannot be denied that Oracle did not let MySQL die.. cheers, On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Ruben Safir ru...@mrbrklyn.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 12:41:09PM +0100, Johan De Meersman wrote: - Original Message - From: Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is shifting to other type of DB's . I think the question has long been answered. However, out of curiosity (and because they are the questions you should ask yourself anyway), *who* have you heard that from, and what might they not have told you? :-) I can imagine there's zealots from pretty much every database that will be claiming similar things about every project they see as a competitor to be stamped out. Hell, Monty himself has been scaremongering plenty around the time Oracle announced the takeover. And for damn good reason. And looking back, it is hard to believe that this was almost true a mear 2 years ago. We are in one of the most rapid rivers of change I'd ever experienced, and most of the change is not good, not good at all...starting with Oracle buying Sun and Mysql -- Linux Bier Wanderung 2012, now also available in Belgium! August, 12 to 19, Diksmuide, Belgium - http://lbw2012.tuxera.be -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- Best regards, Walter Heck CEO / Founder OlinData http://olindata.com/?src=wh_gapp - Open Source Training Consulting Check out our upcoming trainings http://olindata.com/training/upcoming
Re: MySQL dying?
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012 at 12:41:09PM +0100, Johan De Meersman wrote: - Original Message - From: Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is shifting to other type of DB's . I think the question has long been answered. However, out of curiosity (and because they are the questions you should ask yourself anyway), *who* have you heard that from, and what might they not have told you? :-) I can imagine there's zealots from pretty much every database that will be claiming similar things about every project they see as a competitor to be stamped out. Hell, Monty himself has been scaremongering plenty around the time Oracle announced the takeover. And for damn good reason. And looking back, it is hard to believe that this was almost true a mear 2 years ago. We are in one of the most rapid rivers of change I'd ever experienced, and most of the change is not good, not good at all...starting with Oracle buying Sun and Mysql -- Linux Bier Wanderung 2012, now also available in Belgium! August, 12 to 19, Diksmuide, Belgium - http://lbw2012.tuxera.be -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
MySQL runs the internet. Go ahead kill it. I dare you. On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Karen Abgarian a...@apple.com wrote: MySQL, like all other products, can be peachy or bitchy. Good ones, they also die.Wish I was kidding :-) On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Andrés Tello wrote: Are u kidding? Mysql is dead easy and damn good... obviously it has its perks, but any database engine has them... (I'm looking at you DB2)... There has been a lot of improvements lately, I feel that mysql is moving much more faster under oracle umbrella than when it was alone... Replication... omg, replicacion is DEAD easy! so easy, that usually you doublecheck things just because you are unsure that is SO easy... Partitioning, views, storeprocedures, explain and analise are good enough... it simply work... I never, ever had a database corruption (I'm looking at to you Mssql!) ... I have tables with more the 5millon rows, noproblem, I have a table with more than 40 millon rows... and of course I have troubles, but always, always been resolved... Mysql is... wonderful, it just works... You want it to work as a storage with out integrity?, done.. with integrity? done, replicaion, encryption, secure connections, partition... name your feature! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Singer Wang w...@singerwang.com wrote: Lol! Good point Karen! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Karen Abgarian a...@apple.com wrote: A touch of realism: we are all dying. For some, it may take a while, hopefully. On 04.12.2012, at 9:53, Tim Pownall wrote: Mysql is used by just about every web host and is one of the most common database servers around the world. I do not have any intent to stop using mysql unless they start charging for it which I do not think will happen. Thanks, Tim Pownall Sr. Linux Systems Monitoring Hostgator.com LLC On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is shifting to other type of DB's . Any thoughts? -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- Thanks, Tim Pownall GNU/Linux Systems Monitoring 610-621-9712 pownall...@gmail.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
- Original Message - From: Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is shifting to other type of DB's . I think the question has long been answered. However, out of curiosity (and because they are the questions you should ask yourself anyway), *who* have you heard that from, and what might they not have told you? :-) I can imagine there's zealots from pretty much every database that will be claiming similar things about every project they see as a competitor to be stamped out. Hell, Monty himself has been scaremongering plenty around the time Oracle announced the takeover. -- Linux Bier Wanderung 2012, now also available in Belgium! August, 12 to 19, Diksmuide, Belgium - http://lbw2012.tuxera.be -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
Mysql is used by just about every web host and is one of the most common database servers around the world. I do not have any intent to stop using mysql unless they start charging for it which I do not think will happen. Thanks, Tim Pownall Sr. Linux Systems Monitoring Hostgator.com LLC On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.cawrote: I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is shifting to other type of DB's . Any thoughts? -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- Thanks, Tim Pownall GNU/Linux Systems Monitoring 610-621-9712 pownall...@gmail.com
Re: MySQL dying?
A touch of realism: we are all dying. For some, it may take a while, hopefully. On 04.12.2012, at 9:53, Tim Pownall wrote: Mysql is used by just about every web host and is one of the most common database servers around the world. I do not have any intent to stop using mysql unless they start charging for it which I do not think will happen. Thanks, Tim Pownall Sr. Linux Systems Monitoring Hostgator.com LLC On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.cawrote: I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is shifting to other type of DB's . Any thoughts? -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- Thanks, Tim Pownall GNU/Linux Systems Monitoring 610-621-9712 pownall...@gmail.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
MySQL dying?
I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is shifting to other type of DB's . Any thoughts? -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
RE: MySQL dying?
Oracle is investing a lot into improvements in MySQL and releasing most of it in the Community version. Meanwhile, MariaDB is a serious contender. It is a drop-in replacement for MySQL. And Percona's Xtradb (included in MariaDB) is a drop-in replacement for InnoDB. If Oracle did something nasty, there are exit strategies that do not involve porting to some other RDBMS. I say don't worry. -Original Message- From: Karen Abgarian [mailto:a...@apple.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 10:03 AM To: mysql. Subject: Re: MySQL dying? A touch of realism: we are all dying. For some, it may take a while, hopefully. On 04.12.2012, at 9:53, Tim Pownall wrote: Mysql is used by just about every web host and is one of the most common database servers around the world. I do not have any intent to stop using mysql unless they start charging for it which I do not think will happen. Thanks, Tim Pownall Sr. Linux Systems Monitoring Hostgator.com LLC On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.cawrote: I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is shifting to other type of DB's . Any thoughts? -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- Thanks, Tim Pownall GNU/Linux Systems Monitoring 610-621-9712 pownall...@gmail.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
Lol! Good point Karen! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Karen Abgarian a...@apple.com wrote: A touch of realism: we are all dying. For some, it may take a while, hopefully. On 04.12.2012, at 9:53, Tim Pownall wrote: Mysql is used by just about every web host and is one of the most common database servers around the world. I do not have any intent to stop using mysql unless they start charging for it which I do not think will happen. Thanks, Tim Pownall Sr. Linux Systems Monitoring Hostgator.com LLC On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is shifting to other type of DB's . Any thoughts? -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- Thanks, Tim Pownall GNU/Linux Systems Monitoring 610-621-9712 pownall...@gmail.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
Are u kidding? Mysql is dead easy and damn good... obviously it has its perks, but any database engine has them... (I'm looking at you DB2)... There has been a lot of improvements lately, I feel that mysql is moving much more faster under oracle umbrella than when it was alone... Replication... omg, replicacion is DEAD easy! so easy, that usually you doublecheck things just because you are unsure that is SO easy... Partitioning, views, storeprocedures, explain and analise are good enough... it simply work... I never, ever had a database corruption (I'm looking at to you Mssql!) ... I have tables with more the 5millon rows, noproblem, I have a table with more than 40 millon rows... and of course I have troubles, but always, always been resolved... Mysql is... wonderful, it just works... You want it to work as a storage with out integrity?, done.. with integrity? done, replicaion, encryption, secure connections, partition... name your feature! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Singer Wang w...@singerwang.com wrote: Lol! Good point Karen! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Karen Abgarian a...@apple.com wrote: A touch of realism: we are all dying. For some, it may take a while, hopefully. On 04.12.2012, at 9:53, Tim Pownall wrote: Mysql is used by just about every web host and is one of the most common database servers around the world. I do not have any intent to stop using mysql unless they start charging for it which I do not think will happen. Thanks, Tim Pownall Sr. Linux Systems Monitoring Hostgator.com LLC On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is shifting to other type of DB's . Any thoughts? -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- Thanks, Tim Pownall GNU/Linux Systems Monitoring 610-621-9712 pownall...@gmail.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
MySQL, like all other products, can be peachy or bitchy. Good ones, they also die.Wish I was kidding :-) On Dec 4, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Andrés Tello wrote: Are u kidding? Mysql is dead easy and damn good... obviously it has its perks, but any database engine has them... (I'm looking at you DB2)... There has been a lot of improvements lately, I feel that mysql is moving much more faster under oracle umbrella than when it was alone... Replication... omg, replicacion is DEAD easy! so easy, that usually you doublecheck things just because you are unsure that is SO easy... Partitioning, views, storeprocedures, explain and analise are good enough... it simply work... I never, ever had a database corruption (I'm looking at to you Mssql!) ... I have tables with more the 5millon rows, noproblem, I have a table with more than 40 millon rows... and of course I have troubles, but always, always been resolved... Mysql is... wonderful, it just works... You want it to work as a storage with out integrity?, done.. with integrity? done, replicaion, encryption, secure connections, partition... name your feature! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Singer Wang w...@singerwang.com wrote: Lol! Good point Karen! On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Karen Abgarian a...@apple.com wrote: A touch of realism: we are all dying. For some, it may take a while, hopefully. On 04.12.2012, at 9:53, Tim Pownall wrote: Mysql is used by just about every web host and is one of the most common database servers around the world. I do not have any intent to stop using mysql unless they start charging for it which I do not think will happen. Thanks, Tim Pownall Sr. Linux Systems Monitoring Hostgator.com LLC On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Anthony Pace anthony.p...@utoronto.ca wrote: I have heard that due to Oracle taking over, the OS community is shifting to other type of DB's . Any thoughts? -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql -- Thanks, Tim Pownall GNU/Linux Systems Monitoring 610-621-9712 pownall...@gmail.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying?
2012/12/04 15:18 -0800, Karen Abgarian MySQL, like all other products, can be peachy or bitchy. Good ones, they also die.Wish I was kidding :-) Mind VHS BetaMax? BetaMax had much better color--but VHS long outlasted it. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL dying suddenly
apparently an innocent query followed by an update. The binary package is statically linked ad it started happening after we started using InnoDB. The version is, actually, 3.23.49a-Max. Although I can't reproduce a better test case than this, I'm sure that you can check the binaries you have compiled statically there at MySQL AB and reproduce this bug with similar situations. The problem has this pattern: it is always a query in a MyISAM table followed by an update. I have a similar problem - very similar queries, byt the table is of InnoDB type. query,sql,table -- _/_/ _/_/_/ - Rafa Jank [EMAIL PROTECTED] - _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Wirtualna Polska SA http://www.wp.pl _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ul. Traugutta 115c, 80-237 Gdansk, tel/fax. (58)5215625 _/ _/ _/ ==* http://szukaj.wp.pl *==-- - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: MySQL dying suddenly
On Monday 15 April 2002 02:39 pm, Leonardo Dias wrote: I received the message that made our MySQL die sometimes now. Our mysqld is the binary package available @ www.mysql.com. Version is 3.23.49a The error message is below. key_buffer_size=16773120 record_buffer=1019904 sort_buffer=1048568 max_used_connections=284 max_connections=500 threads_connected=59 It is possible that mysqld could use up to key_buffer_size + (record_buffer + sort_buffer)*max_connections = 1026376 K bytes of memory Hope that's ok, if not, decrease some variables in the equation Attempting backtrace. You can use the following information to find out where mysqld died. If you see no messages after this, something went terribly wrong... Stack range sanity check OK, backtrace follows: 0x807bb5f 0x82a94aa 0x82cc0d5 0x82c31ae 0x82ca6b5 0x8077a6c 0x8080ca0 Stack trace seems successful - bottom reached Please read http://www.mysql.com/doc/U/s/Using_stack_trace.html and follow instructions on how to resolve the stack trace. Resolved stack trace is much more helpful in diagnosing the problem, so please do resolve it Trying to get some variables. Some pointers may be invalid and cause the dump to abort... thd-query at (nil) is invalid pointer thd-thread_id=521437 Since in this version everything is compiled statically, I don't know what is wrong exactly. The log has the following information: 521437 Connect [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 521437 Init DB vagas 521437 Query select * from temp_vg_olhados where idvg=404147 and tabela = 'vagasvg' 521437 Init DB vagas 521437 Query update temp_vg_olhados set nvg_olhados = nvg_olhados + 1 where idvg=404147 and tabela = 'vagasvg' apparently an innocent query followed by an update. The binary package is statically linked ad it started happening after we started using InnoDB. The version is, actually, 3.23.49a-Max. Although I can't reproduce a better test case than this, I'm sure that you can check the binaries you have compiled statically there at MySQL AB and reproduce this bug with similar situations. The problem has this pattern: it is always a query in a MyISAM table followed by an update. Although it happens all the time in our application, sometimes it crashes the database. We have just discovered a bug with 3.23.49a binaries - there is a small memory overrun if you have services with names less than 5 characters in /etc/nsswitch.conf that are not dns. The most common ones would be db and nis. So to begin troubleshooting, make sure you do not have db, nis, or any other short-character service names in /etc/nsswitch.conf so as not to trigger this bug. If your /etc/nsswitch.conf is not problematic, the next step in troubleshooting the problem is to check if temp_vg_olhados does not get corrupted at any point. -- MySQL Development Team For technical support contracts, visit https://order.mysql.com/?ref=mspa __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ / Sasha Pachev [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, http://www.mysql.com/ /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Provo, Utah, USA ___/ - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
MySQL dying suddenly
I received the message that made our MySQL die sometimes now. Our mysqld is the binary package available @ www.mysql.com. Version is 3.23.49a The error message is below. key_buffer_size=16773120 record_buffer=1019904 sort_buffer=1048568 max_used_connections=284 max_connections=500 threads_connected=59 It is possible that mysqld could use up to key_buffer_size + (record_buffer + sort_buffer)*max_connections = 1026376 K bytes of memory Hope that's ok, if not, decrease some variables in the equation Attempting backtrace. You can use the following information to find out where mysqld died. If you see no messages after this, something went terribly wrong... Stack range sanity check OK, backtrace follows: 0x807bb5f 0x82a94aa 0x82cc0d5 0x82c31ae 0x82ca6b5 0x8077a6c 0x8080ca0 Stack trace seems successful - bottom reached Please read http://www.mysql.com/doc/U/s/Using_stack_trace.html and follow instructions on how to resolve the stack trace. Resolved stack trace is much more helpful in diagnosing the problem, so please do resolve it Trying to get some variables. Some pointers may be invalid and cause the dump to abort... thd-query at (nil) is invalid pointer thd-thread_id=521437 Since in this version everything is compiled statically, I don't know what is wrong exactly. The log has the following information: 521437 Connect [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 521437 Init DB vagas 521437 Query select * from temp_vg_olhados where idvg=404147 and tabela = 'vagasvg' 521437 Init DB vagas 521437 Query update temp_vg_olhados set nvg_olhados = nvg_olhados + 1 where idvg=404147 and tabela = 'vagasvg' apparently an innocent query followed by an update. The binary package is statically linked ad it started happening after we started using InnoDB. The version is, actually, 3.23.49a-Max. Although I can't reproduce a better test case than this, I'm sure that you can check the binaries you have compiled statically there at MySQL AB and reproduce this bug with similar situations. The problem has this pattern: it is always a query in a MyISAM table followed by an update. Although it happens all the time in our application, sometimes it crashes the database. Thanks, -- Leonardo Dias Catho Online WebDeveloper http://www.catho.com.br/ - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
