Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-10 Thread Steve Ingamells
 If this is going to hurt someone please when u
 see mails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] do not
 scroll down to the bottom

I won't. I've had enough of this, so I just set my mail program to erase any
mails from you. I do the same for anyone who repeatedly promotes religious
or political views on the mailing list, whether passively or actively. I
subscribe to this list to obtain info on MySQL, not middle-eastern or any
other politics. I can read the newspaper for that.

Steve.



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RE: [OT] Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-09 Thread Paul Magid
To MySQL AB:


Your lists are being used to disseminate extremist muslim hate-speech.   As
such, this will reflect terribly negatively on your company if you let this
go unchallenged much longer.   This individual, if you can call him that,
has repeatedly said inflammatory stuff about Israel in his signature.
Clearly, no one in an official capacity at your company saw fit to address
that.  However, now he has equated the Jews and Christians living in [his]
lands to pigs and monkeys.   This kind of racism is reprehensible in
the extreme.  This scum is posting his screed from Egypt; I, on the other
hand, live in a country which has a much richer tradition of freedom of
speech, the United States.   And, contrary to this morons assertions, you DO
NOT have the right to say anything, at any time, anywhere.   And,
particularly not in a private forum such as this.  There are no first
amendment protections from non-governmental actors ie: in this case MySQLAB.
Thus, if MySQLAB chooses to do nothing about it your company will be tacitly
condoning his behavior.  I recommend that at a bare minimum this guy should
be removed from the list, for the sheer disruption that he has caused to the
normally extremely helpful discourse which is usual in this list.
Furthermore, I am a DBA in a Fortune 500 company, and I do have significant
influence over the buying decisions of my company with respect to databases.
You can be sure that any business I have will not go to you if you do
nothing.


Sincerely,

Paul Magid, DBA



-Original Message-
From: Sameh Attia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue


Sam Przyswa wrote:

Septenber 11 2001, more than 3000 women, men, child, killed, Tel Aviv
January 5
2003, 23 death and 100 injured by islamic terrorists, that's the islamic
history
(small part).

Sam Apache-PHP-MySQL user.

--
Albert Einstein, Karl Marx, Jesus Christ,
and you Mohamed what have you done for the world ?


First of all do not cc me directly. I do get a copy of ur shit by the list.

If you think that Mohamed did not do something for the world which is
not true. At least he did not leave us with some pigs and monkeys. Read
your history if u forgot.

If u were a muslim, I thank God that u were not, u would learn how to
respect other prophets. We as muslims do repect Jesus, Moses, Ibrahim,
and other prohpets and we are asked to believe in them because it is a
fundamental believe in our religion.

If u want to know more about out prophet Mohamed go and read
http://www.islamonline.com/PAGE12.html

Also you will find below detailed information about what the modern,
democractec, and civilized gang of Zions does to muslims.
Israeli Massacres http://www.ummah.net/unity/palestine/index.htm
Sabra  Shatila http://www.ummah.net/unity/sabra/main.html
Deir Yassin http://www.deiryassin.org 
http://www.ariga.com/peacewatch/dy 
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/History/deir_yassin.html
Qana http://web.cyberia.net.lb/qana/
.and much more but the memory does not help.

Sam go and get a life and may God forgive u. But u should believe that
sooner or later there will be no more pigs and monkeys in our lands.

--
Sameh Attia
Senior System Engineer
T.E. Data
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We'll restore OUR Palestine





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Re: [OT] Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-09 Thread Gelu Gogancea
Hi Paul,
MYSQL AB maybe have already done something to diffuse this situation but
without to get involved this very-mega-ultra public MYSQL LIST.
And i think also is a duty of every member of this list to make all to keep
clean this list but without any implication of it.
I feel frustration also, because on January 5 2003 two of my
townsman(romanians) was killed without any fault by the palestinian
terrorist.
But we must be rational and must to make difference between our feelings and
MYSQL company with all what it is.
Maybe it's time to show that the pigs and monkey are able to forgive in
comparison with him,witch is man and witch is not able to respect all the
members of this list(by making propaganda).
If we think that this LISTS belong to MYSQL AB then MYSQL AB is a victim of
this disputation.And if MYSQL AB will be have a PUBLIC attitude this means
MYSQL AB will be agree with this kind of disputation .Personally, i think
THIS NOT A PURPOSE OF MYSQL AB.
Anyhow,i think this list belong to all MYSQL users/software developers and
in this situation MYSQL AB didn't have ANY FAULT.

With all my consideration,

Gelu Gogancea
Software Developer - System Integrator
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G.NET SOFTWARE COMPANY

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From: Paul Magid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Michael Widenius' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:46 AM
Subject: RE: [OT] Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue


 To MySQL AB:


 Your lists are being used to disseminate extremist muslim hate-speech.
As
 such, this will reflect terribly negatively on your company if you let
this
 go unchallenged much longer.   This individual, if you can call him that,
 has repeatedly said inflammatory stuff about Israel in his signature.
 Clearly, no one in an official capacity at your company saw fit to address
 that.  However, now he has equated the Jews and Christians living in
[his]
 lands to pigs and monkeys.   This kind of racism is reprehensible in
 the extreme.  This scum is posting his screed from Egypt; I, on the other
 hand, live in a country which has a much richer tradition of freedom of
 speech, the United States.   And, contrary to this morons assertions, you
DO
 NOT have the right to say anything, at any time, anywhere.   And,
 particularly not in a private forum such as this.  There are no first
 amendment protections from non-governmental actors ie: in this case
MySQLAB.
 Thus, if MySQLAB chooses to do nothing about it your company will be
tacitly
 condoning his behavior.  I recommend that at a bare minimum this guy
should
 be removed from the list, for the sheer disruption that he has caused to
the
 normally extremely helpful discourse which is usual in this list.
 Furthermore, I am a DBA in a Fortune 500 company, and I do have
significant
 influence over the buying decisions of my company with respect to
databases.
 You can be sure that any business I have will not go to you if you do
 nothing.


 Sincerely,

 Paul Magid, DBA



 -Original Message-
 From: Sameh Attia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [OT] Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue


 Sam Przyswa wrote:

 Septenber 11 2001, more than 3000 women, men, child, killed, Tel Aviv
 January 5
 2003, 23 death and 100 injured by islamic terrorists, that's the islamic
 history
 (small part).
 
 Sam Apache-PHP-MySQL user.
 
 --
 Albert Einstein, Karl Marx, Jesus Christ,
 and you Mohamed what have you done for the world ?
 
 
 First of all do not cc me directly. I do get a copy of ur shit by the
list.

 If you think that Mohamed did not do something for the world which is
 not true. At least he did not leave us with some pigs and monkeys. Read
 your history if u forgot.

 If u were a muslim, I thank God that u were not, u would learn how to
 respect other prophets. We as muslims do repect Jesus, Moses, Ibrahim,
 and other prohpets and we are asked to believe in them because it is a
 fundamental believe in our religion.

 If u want to know more about out prophet Mohamed go and read
 http://www.islamonline.com/PAGE12.html

 Also you will find below detailed information about what the modern,
 democractec, and civilized gang of Zions does to muslims.
 Israeli Massacres http://www.ummah.net/unity/palestine/index.htm
 Sabra  Shatila http://www.ummah.net/unity/sabra/main.html
 Deir Yassin http://www.deiryassin.org 
 http://www.ariga.com/peacewatch/dy 
 http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/History/deir_yassin.html
 Qana http://web.cyberia.net.lb/qana/
 .and much more but the memory does not help.

 Sam go and get a life and may God forgive u. But u should believe that
 sooner or later there will be no more pigs and monkeys in our lands.

 --
 Sameh Attia
 Senior

[OT] Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-08 Thread Sameh Attia
Sam Przyswa wrote:


Septenber 11 2001, more than 3000 women, men, child, killed, Tel Aviv January 5
2003, 23 death and 100 injured by islamic terrorists, that's the islamic history
(small part).

Sam Apache-PHP-MySQL user.

--
Albert Einstein, Karl Marx, Jesus Christ,
   and you Mohamed what have you done for the world ?
 

First of all do not cc me directly. I do get a copy of ur shit by the list.

If you think that Mohamed did not do something for the world which is 
not true. At least he did not leave us with some pigs and monkeys. Read 
your history if u forgot.

If u were a muslim, I thank God that u were not, u would learn how to 
respect other prophets. We as muslims do repect Jesus, Moses, Ibrahim, 
and other prohpets and we are asked to believe in them because it is a 
fundamental believe in our religion.

If u want to know more about out prophet Mohamed go and read 
http://www.islamonline.com/PAGE12.html

Also you will find below detailed information about what the modern, 
democractec, and civilized gang of Zions does to muslims.
Israeli Massacres http://www.ummah.net/unity/palestine/index.htm
Sabra  Shatila http://www.ummah.net/unity/sabra/main.html
Deir Yassin http://www.deiryassin.org  
http://www.ariga.com/peacewatch/dy  
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/History/deir_yassin.html
Qana http://web.cyberia.net.lb/qana/
.and much more but the memory does not help.

Sam go and get a life and may God forgive u. But u should believe that 
sooner or later there will be no more pigs and monkeys in our lands.

--
Sameh Attia
Senior System Engineer
T.E. Data
--
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We'll restore OUR Palestine



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RE: [OT] Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-08 Thread Simon Green
I know this is a emotive subject but PLEASE drop it from the MySQL list.

Thanks
Simon


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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-07 Thread SBS
Sam,

I think now it is time to stop what you have started. If you can't answer the 
question then don't waste the time of thousand of users on this list with your 
personal opinions and comments on people signatures. You can communicate with 
the user directly, not through the list. Other wise it becomes too provoking.

P.S I don't expect any reply, but if you insist then no CC to the list.

Thanks
Salam Baker


Sam Przyswa wrote:
Maximo Migliari ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait:


Sameh,



We r here to help one another solving their problems. Ive never posted any
solutions, to this list or another based on religion or something else but
the problem itself only. I invite all people here to read the Islamic
history of true muslims and youll find that we never treated people based
on their religion. All the times nonmuslims get all thier rights under
isalmic control. We never kill children, women, unarmed persons...etc




Septenber 11 2001, more than 3000 women, men, child, killed, Tel Aviv January 5
2003, 23 death and 100 injured by islamic terrorists, that's the islamic history
(small part).

Sam Apache-PHP-MySQL user.

--
Albert Einstein, Karl Marx, Jesus Christ,
and you Mohamed what have you done for the world ?


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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Sameh Attia
Sam Przyswa wrote:


Sameh Attia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait:
 

She who is in my mind and mouth, I love her with all my heart and blood
We'll restore OUR Palestine
   


Did you know a democratic country named ISRAEL created in 1948 ?


 

How do u define democratic? country? Israel? created?
BTW did u no about a gang founded on 1948?
Now this is the end of the subject. This list is not for shit. If still 
have the motive to continue, join israel.gang.list.

Regards
sql,query,queries,smallint

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Senior System Engineer
T.E. Data
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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Sameh Attia
Sameh Attia wrote:


Hi,
   I have a system running MySQL 3.23.41. I read many times about 
InnoDB performance and that it is superior to the MyISAM one. I have a 
table 'sessions' in a MyISAM format with about 20 milion records. Its 
size is 2.5 GB; the index file is 1.1 GB. In mysql client I entered 
the following command 'alter table sessions type=innodb' while these 
settings were in my.cnf
innodb_data_home_dir=/path/to/the/database/dir
innodb_data_file_path=backup/ibdata:3072M:autoextend
set-variable = innodb_buffer_pool_size=128M
set-variable = innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=64M
set-variable = innodb_log_file_size=32M
set-variable = innodb_log_buffer_size=16M

The command took about 10 hours to complete. Is this normal?
Also when it finished I issued the follwoing statement on another copy 
of the table in MyISAM format; it took about 5 mins
SELECT ip,no,count(*) AS term,SUM(CEILING(session_time/60)*60) AS 
total,AVG(CEILING(session_time/60)*60) AS average FROM sessions GROUP 
BY ip;

while when it was issued on the InnoDB one it took me 30 mins to give 
up and shutdown the server with no luck.
Whats wrong? could anyone help? Im sure that InnoDB is good so it 
seems I missed something could anyone point me?
Regards

Sorry I forgot to tell that the ibdata file size after conversion is 9.1 GB

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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Greg Matthews
select crap from blahblah where nobody_is_interested = 'Y'

sql,query

- Original Message -
From: Sameh Attia [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue


 Sam Przyswa wrote:

 Sameh Attia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait:
 
 
 She who is in my mind and mouth, I love her with all my heart and
blood
 We'll restore OUR Palestine
 
 
 
 Did you know a democratic country named ISRAEL created in 1948 ?
 
 
 
 
 How do u define democratic? country? Israel? created?
 BTW did u no about a gang founded on 1948?
 Now this is the end of the subject. This list is not for shit. If still
 have the motive to continue, join israel.gang.list.

 Regards
 sql,query,queries,smallint

 --
 Sameh Attia
 Senior System Engineer
 T.E. Data
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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Sam Przyswa
Sameh Attia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait:








Sam Przyswa wrote:

  Sameh Attia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait:


She who is in my mind and mouth, I love her with all my heart and blood
We'll restore OUR Palestine



Did you know a democratic country named ISRAEL created in 1948 ?





How do u define democratic? country? Israel? created?
BTW did u no about a gang founded on 1948?

Yes I know, his name is PLO, and in this case Palestine is not a country but a
terrorist organisation.

1) Democratic mean that all people, men, women, muslem, jewish, catholics, have
the same right instead of arabs countries.

2) Country is like house and have to be build, not destroyed as you have done in
Liban, and that you want with ISRAEL.

3) Israel is the only one democratic country in middle east where catholics,
muslems, jewish, can leave together instead of yours where jewish, catholics, are
killed as in Islamic Republic of Soudan, Irak, Syria, etc.

4) Created means... something that you can't understand because you never have
created anything, just destroy as your child transformed in humain bombs.

Peace, Country, Democracy, Sharing, lot of things that you will understand when
you will become MEN as all of humains peoples, see you in 1000 years !

PS. MySQL is not a toy for you, try MS-SQL instead, I'm sure that Bill Gate
himself will be happy to reply your messages with this very nice signature.

Sam.


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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Sameh Attia
Sam Przyswa wrote:


Sameh Attia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait:
 







Sam Przyswa wrote:

Sameh Attia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait:


  She who is in my mind and mouth, I love her with all my heart and blood
We'll restore OUR Palestine



Did you know a democratic country named ISRAEL created in 1948 ?





How do u define democratic? country? Israel? created?
BTW did u no about a gang founded on 1948?
   


Yes I know, his name is PLO, and in this case Palestine is not a country but a
terrorist organisation.

1) Democratic mean that all people, men, women, muslem, jewish, catholics, have
the same right instead of arabs countries.

2) Country is like house and have to be build, not destroyed as you have done in
Liban, and that you want with ISRAEL.

3) Israel is the only one democratic country in middle east where catholics,
muslems, jewish, can leave together instead of yours where jewish, catholics, are
killed as in Islamic Republic of Soudan, Irak, Syria, etc.

4) Created means... something that you can't understand because you never have
created anything, just destroy as your child transformed in humain bombs.

Peace, Country, Democracy, Sharing, lot of things that you will understand when
you will become MEN as all of humains peoples, see you in 1000 years !

PS. MySQL is not a toy for you, try MS-SQL instead, I'm sure that Bill Gate
himself will be happy to reply your messages with this very nice signature.

Sam.



 

well, Ive a problem enjoying my toy. Do u no how to solve or still 
playing like me?

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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Gelu Gogancea
Peace to all,
This is not the right place for this kind of discussions.
Please STOP.
Also i have a suggestion for the administrator of this list:
-to forbidden all e-mail which have in subject or body, logo
/slogan/catchword which can be considered  RINGLEADER.

Regards,

Gelu
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From: Sam Przyswa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Sameh Attia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; MySQL List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue


 Sameh Attia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sam Przyswa wrote:
 
   Sameh Attia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait:
 
 
 She who is in my mind and mouth, I love her with all my heart and
blood
 We'll restore OUR Palestine
 
 
 
 Did you know a democratic country named ISRAEL created in 1948 ?
 
 
 
 
 
 How do u define democratic? country? Israel? created?
 BTW did u no about a gang founded on 1948?

 Yes I know, his name is PLO, and in this case Palestine is not a country
but a
 terrorist organisation.

 1) Democratic mean that all people, men, women, muslem, jewish, catholics,
have
 the same right instead of arabs countries.

 2) Country is like house and have to be build, not destroyed as you have
done in
 Liban, and that you want with ISRAEL.

 3) Israel is the only one democratic country in middle east where
catholics,
 muslems, jewish, can leave together instead of yours where jewish,
catholics, are
 killed as in Islamic Republic of Soudan, Irak, Syria, etc.

 4) Created means... something that you can't understand because you never
have
 created anything, just destroy as your child transformed in humain bombs.

 Peace, Country, Democracy, Sharing, lot of things that you will understand
when
 you will become MEN as all of humains peoples, see you in 1000 years !

 PS. MySQL is not a toy for you, try MS-SQL instead, I'm sure that Bill
Gate
 himself will be happy to reply your messages with this very nice
signature.

 Sam.


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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Sameh Attia
Gelu Gogancea wrote:


Peace to all,
This is not the right place for this kind of discussions.
Please STOP.
Also i have a suggestion for the administrator of this list:
-to forbidden all e-mail which have in subject or body, logo
/slogan/catchword which can be considered  RINGLEADER.

Regards,

Gelu
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To: Sameh Attia [EMAIL PROTECTED]; MySQL List
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue


 

Sameh Attia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait:
   







Sam Przyswa wrote:

Sameh Attia ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait:


  She who is in my mind and mouth, I love her with all my heart and
 

blood
 

We'll restore OUR Palestine



Did you know a democratic country named ISRAEL created in 1948 ?





How do u define democratic? country? Israel? created?
BTW did u no about a gang founded on 1948?
 

Yes I know, his name is PLO, and in this case Palestine is not a country
   

but a
 

terrorist organisation.

1) Democratic mean that all people, men, women, muslem, jewish, catholics,
   

have
 

the same right instead of arabs countries.

2) Country is like house and have to be build, not destroyed as you have
   

done in
 

Liban, and that you want with ISRAEL.

3) Israel is the only one democratic country in middle east where
   

catholics,
 

muslems, jewish, can leave together instead of yours where jewish,
   

catholics, are
 

killed as in Islamic Republic of Soudan, Irak, Syria, etc.

4) Created means... something that you can't understand because you never
   

have
 

created anything, just destroy as your child transformed in humain bombs.

Peace, Country, Democracy, Sharing, lot of things that you will understand
   

when
 

you will become MEN as all of humains peoples, see you in 1000 years !

PS. MySQL is not a toy for you, try MS-SQL instead, I'm sure that Bill
   

Gate
 

himself will be happy to reply your messages with this very nice
   

signature.
 

Sam.


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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Sam Przyswa
Gelu Gogancea ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait:

Peace to all,
This is not the right place for this kind of discussions.
Please STOP.
Also i have a suggestion for the administrator of this list:
-to forbidden all e-mail which have in subject or body, logo
/slogan/catchword which can be considered  RINGLEADER.

It will be nice, thanks in advance.

Sam.

sql,query,queries,smallint


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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Gelu Gogancea
Hi,
I'm sure that all the people from this list RESPECT in what you believe or
in values which are considered by you to be inviolable/holy.
I'M NOT JEWISH but i'm sure if you will see, like logo/slogan , something
like ...
I WILL LOVE YOU FOREVER WITH MY HEART AND MY BLOOD, BEN GURION.
... i'm almost sure that you will feel frustration...and THIS IS NOT RIGHT.

For this reason please remove your logo from the bottom of your e-mail body
and after this i'm sure all people which are subscribed to this list will
try to find a solution for your problem(maybe and SAM).
Personally, i beg you to repost your problem to the list because i didn't
catch the e-mail where is described your problem.

Best Regards,

Gelu
_
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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Sameh Attia
Gelu Gogancea wrote:


Hi,
I'm sure that all the people from this list RESPECT in what you believe or
in values which are considered by you to be inviolable/holy.
I'M NOT JEWISH but i'm sure if you will see, like logo/slogan , something
like ...
I WILL LOVE YOU FOREVER WITH MY HEART AND MY BLOOD, BEN GURION.
... i'm almost sure that you will feel frustration...and THIS IS NOT RIGHT.

For this reason please remove your logo from the bottom of your e-mail body
and after this i'm sure all people which are subscribed to this list will
try to find a solution for your problem(maybe and SAM).
Personally, i beg you to repost your problem to the list because i didn't
catch the e-mail where is described your problem.

Best Regards,

Gelu
_
G.NET SOFTWARE COMPANY

Permanent e-mail address : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Ive already done that. I asked about a solution to my problem.

--
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Senior System Engineer
T.E. Data
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We r here to help one another solving their problems. Ive never posted 
any solutions, to this list or another based on religion or something 
else but the problem itself only. I invite all people here to read the 
Islamic history of true muslims and youll find that we never treated 
people based on their religion. All the times nonmuslims get all thier 
rights under isalmic control. We never kill children, women, unarmed 
persons...etc

So I think it is my right to sign my mails with any signature I see 
apropriate for myself. If this is going to hurt someone please when u 
see mails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] do not scroll down to the bottom 
of the mail because u will see my signature sitting over there.
And now back to my problem
  I have a system running MySQL 3.23.41. I read many times about InnoDB 
performance and that it is superior to the MyISAM one. I have a table 
'sessions' in a MyISAM format with about 20 milion records. Its size is 
2.5 GB; the index file is 1.1 GB. In mysql client I entered the 
following command 'alter table sessions type=innodb' while these 
settings were in my.cnf
innodb_data_home_dir=/path/to/the/database/dir
innodb_data_file_path=backup/ibdata:3072M:autoextend
set-variable = innodb_buffer_pool_size=128M
set-variable = innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=64M
set-variable = innodb_log_file_size=32M
set-variable = innodb_log_buffer_size=16M

The command took about 10 hours to complete. Is this normal?
Also when it finished I issued the follwoing statement on another copy 
of the table in MyISAM format; it took about 5 mins
SELECT ip,no,count(*) AS term,SUM(CEILING(session_time/60)*60) AS 
total,AVG(CEILING(session_time/60)*60) AS average FROM sessions GROUP BY 
ip;

while when it was issued on the InnoDB one it took me 30 mins to give up 
and shutdown the server with no luck.
Also the ibdata file is now 9.1 GB
Whats wrong? could anyone help? Im sure that InnoDB is good so it seems 
I missed something could anyone point me?

Regards

--
Sameh Attia
Senior System Engineer
T.E. Data
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We'll restore OUR Palestine



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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Maximo Migliari
Sameh,

The right table manager to use (MyISAM or InnoDB)  really depends on the 
type of work you are requiring of MySQL.
If you are mainly doing selects, and hardly any updates/deletes/inserts, 
then MyISAM is faster.  Its indexes, as far as I know, are smaller and more 
efficient.  However, when you start doing a little bit more inserts and 
updates, MyISAM starts to bog down your system.  This is because MyISAM 
locks the entire table in order to perform a modification on it, only after 
the modification is commited does MySQL unlock the tables for read/write.

InnoDB on the other hand, does row-level locking.  This means when a record 
is being updated/inserted/deleted, only the relevant row is locked, and the 
table can still be concurrently read and insert/update/delete operations 
can still take place for other rows.  This can majourly increase the speed 
of a database if there is big mix of queries.  If you are working on 
something simple, and don't make too many inserts/updates/deletes, then 
MyISAM is best, as it takes almost twice as less space to store the data - 
and as you should know, the more data there is, the longer it takes for the 
physical hard drive to seek up the data and spit it out to MySQL.

Hope this helps!
Maximo Migliari.


At 19:28 6/1/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Gelu Gogancea wrote:


Hi,
I'm sure that all the people from this list RESPECT in what you believe or
in values which are considered by you to be inviolable/holy.
I'M NOT JEWISH but i'm sure if you will see, like logo/slogan , something
like ...
I WILL LOVE YOU FOREVER WITH MY HEART AND MY BLOOD, BEN GURION.
... i'm almost sure that you will feel frustration...and THIS IS NOT RIGHT.

For this reason please remove your logo from the bottom of your e-mail body
and after this i'm sure all people which are subscribed to this list will
try to find a solution for your problem(maybe and SAM).
Personally, i beg you to repost your problem to the list because i didn't
catch the e-mail where is described your problem.

Best Regards,

Gelu
_
G.NET SOFTWARE COMPANY

Permanent e-mail address : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Ive already done that. I asked about a solution to my problem.

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We r here to help one another solving their problems. Ive never posted any 
solutions, to this list or another based on religion or something else but 
the problem itself only. I invite all people here to read the Islamic 
history of true muslims and youll find that we never treated people based 
on their religion. All the times nonmuslims get all thier rights under 
isalmic control. We never kill children, women, unarmed persons...etc

So I think it is my right to sign my mails with any signature I see 
apropriate for myself. If this is going to hurt someone please when u see 
mails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] do not scroll down to the bottom of the 
mail because u will see my signature sitting over there.
And now back to my problem
  I have a system running MySQL 3.23.41. I read many times about InnoDB 
performance and that it is superior to the MyISAM one. I have a table 
'sessions' in a MyISAM format with about 20 milion records. Its size is 
2.5 GB; the index file is 1.1 GB. In mysql client I entered the following 
command 'alter table sessions type=innodb' while these settings were in my.cnf
innodb_data_home_dir=/path/to/the/database/dir
innodb_data_file_path=backup/ibdata:3072M:autoextend
set-variable = innodb_buffer_pool_size=128M
set-variable = innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=64M
set-variable = innodb_log_file_size=32M
set-variable = innodb_log_buffer_size=16M

The command took about 10 hours to complete. Is this normal?
Also when it finished I issued the follwoing statement on another copy of 
the table in MyISAM format; it took about 5 mins
SELECT ip,no,count(*) AS term,SUM(CEILING(session_time/60)*60) AS 
total,AVG(CEILING(session_time/60)*60) AS average FROM sessions GROUP BY ip;

while when it was issued on the InnoDB one it took me 30 mins to give up 
and shutdown the server with no luck.
Also the ibdata file is now 9.1 GB
Whats wrong? could anyone help? Im sure that InnoDB is good so it seems I 
missed something could anyone point me?

Regards

--
Sameh Attia
Senior System Engineer
T.E. Data
--
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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Sameh Attia
Maximo Migliari wrote:


Sameh,

The right table manager to use (MyISAM or InnoDB)  really depends on 
the type of work you are requiring of MySQL.
If you are mainly doing selects, and hardly any 
updates/deletes/inserts, then MyISAM is faster.  Its indexes, as far 
as I know, are smaller and more efficient.  However, when you start 
doing a little bit more inserts and updates, MyISAM starts to bog down 
your system.  This is because MyISAM locks the entire table in order 
to perform a modification on it, only after the modification is 
commited does MySQL unlock the tables for read/write.

InnoDB on the other hand, does row-level locking.  This means when a 
record is being updated/inserted/deleted, only the relevant row is 
locked, and the table can still be concurrently read and 
insert/update/delete operations can still take place for other rows.  
This can majourly increase the speed of a database if there is big 
mix of queries.  If you are working on something simple, and don't 
make too many inserts/updates/deletes, then MyISAM is best, as it 
takes almost twice as less space to store the data - and as you should 
know, the more data there is, the longer it takes for the physical 
hard drive to seek up the data and spit it out to MySQL.

Hope this helps!
Maximo Migliari.


At 19:28 6/1/2003 +0200, you wrote:

Gelu Gogancea wrote:


Hi,
I'm sure that all the people from this list RESPECT in what you 
believe or
in values which are considered by you to be inviolable/holy.
I'M NOT JEWISH but i'm sure if you will see, like logo/slogan , 
something
like ...
I WILL LOVE YOU FOREVER WITH MY HEART AND MY BLOOD, BEN GURION.
... i'm almost sure that you will feel frustration...and THIS IS NOT 
RIGHT.

For this reason please remove your logo from the bottom of your 
e-mail body
and after this i'm sure all people which are subscribed to this list 
will
try to find a solution for your problem(maybe and SAM).
Personally, i beg you to repost your problem to the list because i 
didn't
catch the e-mail where is described your problem.

Best Regards,

Gelu
_
G.NET SOFTWARE COMPANY

Permanent e-mail address : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Ive already done that. I asked about a solution to my problem.

--
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Senior System Engineer
T.E. Data
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We r here to help one another solving their problems. Ive never 
posted any solutions, to this list or another based on religion or 
something else but the problem itself only. I invite all people here 
to read the Islamic history of true muslims and youll find that we 
never treated people based on their religion. All the times 
nonmuslims get all thier rights under isalmic control. We never kill 
children, women, unarmed persons...etc

So I think it is my right to sign my mails with any signature I see 
apropriate for myself. If this is going to hurt someone please when u 
see mails from [EMAIL PROTECTED] do not scroll down to the 
bottom of the mail because u will see my signature sitting over there.
And now back to my problem
  I have a system running MySQL 3.23.41. I read many times about 
InnoDB performance and that it is superior to the MyISAM one. I have 
a table 'sessions' in a MyISAM format with about 20 milion records. 
Its size is 2.5 GB; the index file is 1.1 GB. In mysql client I 
entered the following command 'alter table sessions type=innodb' 
while these settings were in my.cnf
innodb_data_home_dir=/path/to/the/database/dir
innodb_data_file_path=backup/ibdata:3072M:autoextend
set-variable = innodb_buffer_pool_size=128M
set-variable = innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=64M
set-variable = innodb_log_file_size=32M
set-variable = innodb_log_buffer_size=16M

The command took about 10 hours to complete. Is this normal?
Also when it finished I issued the follwoing statement on another 
copy of the table in MyISAM format; it took about 5 mins
SELECT ip,no,count(*) AS term,SUM(CEILING(session_time/60)*60) AS 
total,AVG(CEILING(session_time/60)*60) AS average FROM sessions GROUP 
BY ip;

while when it was issued on the InnoDB one it took me 30 mins to give 
up and shutdown the server with no luck.
Also the ibdata file is now 9.1 GB
Whats wrong? could anyone help? Im sure that InnoDB is good so it 
seems I missed something could anyone point me?

Regards

--
Sameh Attia
Senior System Engineer
T.E. Data
--
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  _ _/ /_/ 

Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Thomas Spahni
Sameh,

your innodb_buffer_pool_size seems a bit small. In the manual it says:

Set buffer pool size to 50 - 80 % of your computer's memory, but make
sure on Linux x86 total memory usage is  2 GB. Your setting means that
you have no more than 256MB RAM and that's not much for operations on
really big files.

Best regards,
Thomas Spahni

On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Sameh Attia wrote:

I have a system running MySQL 3.23.41. I read many times about InnoDB
 performance and that it is superior to the MyISAM one. I have a table
 'sessions' in a MyISAM format with about 20 milion records. Its size is
 2.5 GB; the index file is 1.1 GB. In mysql client I entered the
 following command 'alter table sessions type=innodb' while these
 settings were in my.cnf
 innodb_data_home_dir=/path/to/the/database/dir
 innodb_data_file_path=backup/ibdata:3072M:autoextend
 set-variable = innodb_buffer_pool_size=128M
 set-variable = innodb_additional_mem_pool_size=64M
 set-variable = innodb_log_file_size=32M
 set-variable = innodb_log_buffer_size=16M

 The command took about 10 hours to complete. Is this normal?
 Also when it finished I issued the follwoing statement on another copy
 of the table in MyISAM format; it took about 5 mins
 SELECT ip,no,count(*) AS term,SUM(CEILING(session_time/60)*60) AS
 total,AVG(CEILING(session_time/60)*60) AS average FROM sessions GROUP BY
 ip;

 while when it was issued on the InnoDB one it took me 30 mins to give up
 and shutdown the server with no luck.
 Also the ibdata file is now 9.1 GB
 Whats wrong? could anyone help? Im sure that InnoDB is good so it seems
 I missed something could anyone point me?

 Regards


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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Maximo Migliari
Well, its possible that it took 10 hours to complete the conversion, if the 
table was big enough, this could be justified.
20 million records is a lot of records!

Also, don't forget to change the memory settings for InnoDB in my.cnf.
InnoDB is a different table manager to MyISAM, and as such, has its own 
memory settings... so if you convert everything to InnoDB, allocate more 
memory to it, and less memory to MyISAM.

Maximo.

At 20:05 6/1/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Maximo Migliari wrote:


Sameh,

The right table manager to use (MyISAM or InnoDB)  really depends on the 
type of work you are requiring of MySQL.
If you are mainly doing selects, and hardly any updates/deletes/inserts, 
then MyISAM is faster.  Its indexes, as far as I know, are smaller and 
more efficient.  However, when you start doing a little bit more inserts 
and updates, MyISAM starts to bog down your system.  This is because 
MyISAM locks the entire table in order to perform a modification on it, 
only after the modification is commited does MySQL unlock the tables 
for read/write.

InnoDB on the other hand, does row-level locking.  This means when a 
record is being updated/inserted/deleted, only the relevant row is 
locked, and the table can still be concurrently read and 
insert/update/delete operations can still take place for other rows.
This can majourly increase the speed of a database if there is big mix 
of queries.  If you are working on something simple, and don't make too 
many inserts/updates/deletes, then MyISAM is best, as it takes almost 
twice as less space to store the data - and as you should know, the more 
data there is, the longer it takes for the physical hard drive to seek up 
the data and spit it out to MySQL.

Hope this helps!
Maximo Migliari.


Thanx for ur help. But does the size enlarge by this amount? Also what 
about the time 10 hours I got to convert the table?

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Senior System Engineer
T.E. Data



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Re: InnoDB vs. MySQL performance Issue

2003-01-06 Thread Sam Przyswa
Maximo Migliari ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) écrivait:

Sameh,

We r here to help one another solving their problems. Ive never posted any
solutions, to this list or another based on religion or something else but
the problem itself only. I invite all people here to read the Islamic
history of true muslims and youll find that we never treated people based
on their religion. All the times nonmuslims get all thier rights under
isalmic control. We never kill children, women, unarmed persons...etc

Septenber 11 2001, more than 3000 women, men, child, killed, Tel Aviv January 5
2003, 23 death and 100 injured by islamic terrorists, that's the islamic history
(small part).

Sam Apache-PHP-MySQL user.

--
Albert Einstein, Karl Marx, Jesus Christ,
and you Mohamed what have you done for the world ?


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