Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend keeps TV 'running' when exiting

2005-01-12 Thread Pim Bliek
Same here. I had to unmute it too.
So muting does not solve it.
Also, xawtv *does* 'close' the sound when exiting, while Myth doesn't.
Pim

On 11-jan-05, at 22:11, Chris Clonch wrote:
Ahh..  I do remember unmuting the line-in on the sound card because  
I couldn't hear any sound while watching LiveTV.  I'll have to go back  
an double check my configuration.

Ian Trider wrote:
Not 100% sure on this (since I don't have a bt878 in my machine), but
you could be listening to the audio through the line-in on the audio
card instead of through MythTV (there will also probably be a slight
delay between video and audio..).
It needs to be set as mute in your mixer.
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:57:52 +0100, Pim Bliek [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

Hi,
Nobody any clue on this behaviour?
Best regards,
Pim
On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 22:06 +0100, Pim Bliek wrote:
Hi,
I am new to MythTV. I got it to work on my Ubuntu Linux (Debian  
based)
PC, with and old Hauppauge WinTV PCI (bt878). Works like a charm, I  
am
really happy with it!

One problem though. When I exit the Live TV modus, the TV card is  
still
on. Off course I cannot see the TV images anymore, I am in the  
main
menu again. But I can still hear the sound. Even when I exit
mythfrontend this continues.

The only way to stop this is to fire up xawtv and quit it again,  
which
does stop the TV Tuner from sending audio to my speaker ;).

This is quite annoying I must say. Does anyone know what I am doing
wrong here? Is this is a setting somewhere?
Best regards and thanks for your time AND for this WONDERFULL  
product!

Pim
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT:FTA sat setup

2005-01-12 Thread Ian Trider
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:05:35 -0500, Jeff volckaert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Everybody,
 
 I have been reading about FTA programming and was curious what a FTA
 sat reciever setup would run?  I think I need a dish, a dish
 directioner, and a FTA reciever.  Is this right?  What would a setup
 like this cost?
 
 Can I use ANY of the equipment left over from a directtv setup?  My
 in-laws just bought a cottage with an old directtv dish.  I would like
 to setup the place to get FTA programming since we really don't want a
 cable bill for the few days a month we will be there.
 
 Would it be better to use a PC+Hauppage Nexus card+TV-out than getting
 a FTA reciever?

In North America, you won't really find much free-to-air satellite
(the very little there is is mostly foreign and religoius
programming).  You'd probably get better programming by antenna (you'd
get all the networks, at least).

That said, a receiver would be far trickier to use, with IR blasters
and everything.  PCI DVB card would be better.  Your old DirecTV stuff
may or may not work. You should really go to http://al7bar.tk, it is a
forum about FTA satellite.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Possible solution to slow mythfilldatabase with tv_grab_uk_rt

2005-01-12 Thread Julian Edwards
Allan Stirling wrote:
Nick Morrott wrote:
I've been looking into this after having had it take up to 3 hours for a
complete run cycle of mythfilldatabase, providing listings for 3 
sourceids
but only 15 channels. It would appear when just running 
'mythfilldatabase'
from the command line that the program was looping or taking a *very* 
long
time to get listings into the database.

The real solution, of course, is to patch mythfilldatabase so it 
doesn't attempt to download and insert the same listings 14 times :)

Patch submitted to -dev.
The problem is really with tv_grab_uk_rt - it gets 14 days worth of data 
regardless of how many mythfilldatabase asks for.
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Re: [mythtv-users] TV Output

2005-01-12 Thread Leo Weppelman
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 10:25:09AM +1100, jani wrote:
 Excellent, I have both those modes working now (modified slightly to
 centre the screen a bit)...  Speaking of which, how does your tele
 display the RGB input?  Mine overscans it by a good 20 pixels on each
 edge, meaning that the GUI misses the edges and the OSD is only

In the settings menu, there are options to control the gui-size. That
should enable you to resize the gui to fit on your tv screen.

Leo.
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: I lost my pvr-350 9-pin din cable

2005-01-12 Thread junk_inbox
If you're handy with a soldering iron, you could just make one.  

I saw an page in english just the other day with the pinout, but I can't seem 
to find that one now.  I just did a quick search and could not find that page, 
but I did find another page with the pinouts (it's not in english [german 
perhaps?], but you should be able to figure it out... )

The page is: 
http://www.vdr-wiki.de/wiki/index.php/Pinout_PVR350

Jeff


 I've either lost it (its been over a year since I bought the card) or it 
 never came with it, and now I'm wanting to use tv-out and no local store 
 seems to have it.
 
 I've check radioshack and the sony store and a few mom  pop electronic 
 stores.
 
 Any ideas on where I can get a new one?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] TV Output

2005-01-12 Thread Leo Weppelman
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 09:42:14AM -0500, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
 I tried this too, the picture quality was very good, but the flicker
 during the menu's was horrible. I was using an mx440 chipset.
 
 Don't you people have this flicker?
 
   I have had similar experience with my homebrew NTSC doodad like 
 this.  I think it would be worthwhile to make an 'interlaced' theme that 
 would help this.  Basically, no single horizonal lines in the theme 
 images... that would keep it from being on for only 1/30 (or 1/25 for 
 PAL-ers) of a second.

I was already wondering if I was the only one :-| Actally the amount of
flicker made me go back to using svideo. It's a bit of a trade-off
between a bearable gui and a reasonable video quality to watch...

The video quality on my mx440 is not bad enough to push me into the
creation of an interlace friendly theme. But that's just my opinion ;-))

Leo.
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Re: [mythtv-users] FC3 - Downloading kernel source

2005-01-12 Thread Richie Jarvis
Drew Zerdecki wrote:
What mirrors have the source kernels?  I can kind them on the regular 
redhat mirrors.

Thanks again.
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Read the release notes for FC3 - it explains how to obtain the kernel 
source.

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Re: [mythtv-users] System crashes when I try to do data transfer over ethernet

2005-01-12 Thread Mark Gardner
  Anybody have any ideas?
 
 sftp and ftp work for me ... smb transfers give me problems
 


No ideas without more information.  If it's smb transfer problems
the question might be more suited for a Samba Users List.
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Re: [mythtv-users] FC3 - Downloading kernel source

2005-01-12 Thread Oliver Gorwits
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:39:14 -0600
Drew Zerdecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What mirrors have the source kernels?  I can kind them on the regular 
 redhat mirrors.

Please read the FC3 release notes for an explanation of what's happened
to the kernel sources:

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/3/i386/os/RELEASE-NOTES-en.html

(sorry for any URL line-breakage)

regards,
oliver
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RE: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on x86_64 SMP

2005-01-12 Thread Steve Frank
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Templeton
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 1:51 PM
 To: Discussion about mythtv
 Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on x86_64 SMP
 
 On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:17:07AM -0800, Ian Forde wrote:
  The good:
  1. It's fast.
  2. ivtv compiled without a problem.
  3. Pretty much everything works (see The bad for what doesn't)
 
 Ian, to add facts to the fire about how different processors 
 perform on mpeg decoding, it would be great if you could 
 report back typical CPU usage/idle times for your system 
 while it is decoding a 1080i video or 720p video, perhaps 
 from mpstat to see what both processors are doing.
 
 Right now in my tests the P4-hyperthreaded is blowing away 
 the equivalently numbered athlon, but it would be great to 
 get more real world examples.
 

Yes, I second that!  Espeically considering deals like this are out
there now:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?Edp
No=1133509Sku=A455-2110%20B

Certainly the case is a beauty in the eye of the beholder, but $300
for an Athlon 64 3400 barebones is nothing to shy away from if this
would improve my path to decent HDTV Myth-ing...I know it's a ways off,
but 


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Re: Are 'dev' and 'users' mailing lists sufficient? (was Re: [mythtv-users] Talking to more than one backend)

2005-01-12 Thread Maverick
Getting users to preface the subject would be next to impossible.

I would definitely like a read only announce list. Would be great to
get an email as soon as the latest version is out. I'm always in favor
of overwriting my working setup for the latest and greatest! :)


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:39:25 -0600, Chris Delis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 10:03:28AM -0600, Andrew Close wrote:
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:43:50 +, Simon Kenyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   we have two mailing lists
  
   dev and users
  
   maybe it is time to go for some finer granularity
  
   install - issues installing the software
   announce - annoucement of new releases
   bugs - posting of bugs/fixes
   hardware - issues with hardware
   discuss - general discussion/fluff
   software - issues running the software
  
   comments please
 
  instead of creating multiple lists maybe it could be requested of
  posters to tag the subject of their email with the above tags.  ie,
  install - compile issue with current CVS...  or hardware - when
  will we see drivers for PVR-500? ;)
 
 Or, perhaps just ask users to be a little bit descriptive in their
 subject headings? :-)
 
 --Chris
 
 
  then users of the list could just filter based on the subject tags.
  it wouldn't be perfect, but it wouldn't require everyone to subscribe
  to multiple lists or have to deal with cross-list posts as much.
 
  just my $.02
  :)
 
  
  9 GMail Invites available
  Email me OFF-list only...
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Toshiba Satellite as kitchen tv

2005-01-12 Thread Mark J. Small
On January 12, 2005 03:56 pm, Mike Frisch wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 12:36:22PM -0700, Jack Burghardt wrote:
  I have Toshiba Satellite with 475 mhz K6-2 cpu 196 mb, ati video car that
  supports xv will it be enough to act as frontend.

 I seriously doubt it'll have enough horsepower, but there's no harm in
 trying.

It could work, given the proper recording settings.  My frontend is a Celeron 
433 with 256 MB.  It handles my mpeg2 recordings just fine, but was choking 
on some mpeg4 stuff.

You'll probably have to recompile to get things to work.  I think there is 
something in the docs about needing MMX/SSE for the default install.  Check 
the docs, I think there is something there.

Mark
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RE: [mythtv-users] Re: New Mac Mini

2005-01-12 Thread Steve Frank
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Frisch
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:23 AM
 To: Discussion about mythtv
 Subject: [mythtv-users] Re: New Mac Mini
 
 
 On 11-Jan-05, at 5:37 PM, Marc Nicholas wrote:
 
  I wouldn't jump to that conclusion until you've seen the 
 output. Just 
  because there's an ATI 9200 chipset on the board, doesn't mean that 
  the analog stage is the same as that from XYZ PC video card vendor. 
  And that's one thing that often makes or breaks analog TV.
 
 
 I will make that conclusion based on the fact that I have yet 
 to see a decent S-Video or composite video output in the 
 number of years they've been available.  I still think a scan 
 converter is a better solution.
 
  Now finding one in a store before the end of this month is 
 going to be 
  tough to prove that ;-)
 
 Better order now!
 
 

I will reintroduce a question I've had, what about using Firewire for
video out on Myth? My HDTV set has firewire In, and the Mini has this
nice firewire port.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Toshiba Satellite as kitchen tv

2005-01-12 Thread Mike Frisch
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 05:15:12PM -0400, Mark J. Small wrote:
 On January 12, 2005 03:56 pm, Mike Frisch wrote:
  On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 12:36:22PM -0700, Jack Burghardt wrote:
   I have Toshiba Satellite with 475 mhz K6-2 cpu 196 mb, ati video car that
   supports xv will it be enough to act as frontend.
 
  I seriously doubt it'll have enough horsepower, but there's no harm in
  trying.
 
 It could work, given the proper recording settings.  My frontend is a Celeron 
 433 with 256 MB.  It handles my mpeg2 recordings just fine, but was choking 
 on some mpeg4 stuff.

I think the C433 is much faster than the K6-2, though.  Isn't the K6-2 a
Pentium class CPU?  The C433 is Pentium II, IIRC.
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[mythtv-users] PVR-350 Remote - Hmmm!

2005-01-12 Thread frutillar

Hi!

I am almost "there" with my mythbox, but I am having issues with the remote. What is strange is that irw sees the remote fine (all the keys I press come-up with the right names), but nothing happens when I try to use the remote with MythTV. I changed the settings in settings.pro so that it will use native lirc, but I cannot get it to work correctly.

Anythoughts?

My setup:

EPIA M1 mobo
PVR-350 with grey-top  black-bottom (dark bottom)
Mandrake 10.1 (2.6.8.1-12mdk)
ivtv 0.3.2a
lirc 0.7.0
MythTV 0.16

Thanks for your help!!

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RE: [mythtv-users] FC3 - Downloading kernel source

2005-01-12 Thread Steve Frank
 

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drew Zerdecki
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 1:39 PM
 To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
 Subject: [mythtv-users] FC3 - Downloading kernel source
 
 What mirrors have the source kernels?  I can kind them on the 
 regular redhat mirrors.
 
 Thanks again.
 
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It's probably that the SRPM isn't out there yet, I've run across that
with the very newest kernels--for some reason the compiled ones are
there a day or so more quickly.

The release notes for Fedora Core cover this topic, and it ends up in a
lot of discussions about FC3 changes: 

Quote: 

In order to eliminate the redundancy inherent in providing a separate
package for the kernel source code when that source code already exists
in the kernel's .src.rpm file, Fedora Core 3 no longer includes the
kernel-source package. Users that require access to the kernel sources
can find them in the kernel .src.rpm file. To create an exploded source
tree from this file, perform the following steps (note that version
refers to the version specification for your currently-running kernel):

   1.

  Obtain the kernel-version.src.rpm file from one of the following
sources:
  *

The SRPMS directory on the appropriate SRPMS CD iso image
  *

The FTP site where you got the kernel package
  *

By running the following command:

up2date --get-source kernel
   2.

  Install kernel-version.src.rpm (given the default RPM
configuration, the files this package contains will be written to
/usr/src/redhat/)
   3.

  Change directory to /usr/src/redhat/SPECS/, and issue the
following command:

  rpmbuild -bp --target=arch kernel.spec

  (Where arch is the desired target architecture.)

  On a default RPM configuration, the kernel tree will be located in
/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/.
   4.

  In resulting tree, the configurations for the specific kernels
shipped in Fedora Core 3 are in the /configs/ directory. For example,
the i686 SMP configuration file is named
/configs/kernel-version-i686-smp.config. Issue the following command
to place the desired configuration file in the proper place for
building:

  cp desired-file ./.config
   5.

  Issue the following command:

  make oldconfig

You can then proceed as usual.
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Re: [mythtv-users] FW: New Source Forge Project MythStreamTV

2005-01-12 Thread David Whyte
Joshua,

I couldn't understand what this part of the README meant so I didn't
do it :|  How do I do this part?  I wonder if it may help with
streaming the audio too.

You are using FC2 you said.  Did you just use packages for vlc and
ffmpeg or did you compile yourself?

Cheers,
Dave


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:14:47 +1000, David Whyte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hmmcan anyone who has tried this module tell me how I complete
 this section of the installation guide?
 
 Configure VLC and ffmpeg with the following options-
 --disable-x11 --disable-xvideo --disable-gtk --disable-sdl --enable-ffmpeg 
 --wit
 h-ffmpeg-mp3lame --with-ffmpeg-faac --with-ffmpeg-zlib --enable-mad 
 --enable-lib
 dvbpsi --enable-a52 --disable-dvdplay --enable-dvdnav --enable-vorbis 
 --enable-o
 gg --enable-theora --enable-mkv --enable-freetype --disable-cddax 
 --disable-vcdx
  --enable-speex --enable-flac --enable-goom --enable-livedotcom --enable-caca 
 --
 disable-skins2 --enable-modplug --enable-debug --enable-gpl --enable-mp3lame 
 --e
 nable-pp --enable-shared-pp
 
 Cheers,
 Whytey
 
 
 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:30:47 +, Ciaran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does this imply it won't run with the latest CVS version of myth?
  Thanks,
  - Ciaran
 
 
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:36:34 -0800, Joshua Ebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yes 0.16 should be fine. I'm running 0.16.20040906-1.
  
   Thanks for your interest!
   -Joshua Ebel
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Whyte
   Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:10 PM
   To: Asher Schaffer; Discussion about mythtv
   Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] FW: New Source Forge Project MythStreamTV
  
   Oooh!  This sounds interesting.  Exactly what I was looking for :D
  
   I take it it would work with 0.16?
  
   On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:56:40 -0800, Asher Schaffer
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:36:49 -0500, James Armstrong
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've released a new project on Source Forge called MythStreamTV.
 MythStreamTV is currently available in Alpha at
 http://mythstreamtv.sourceforge.net/ for download.
 
 
 MythStreamTV is a MythTV addon that allows live transcoding of
   nupplevideo
 to Windows Media Player/Mplayer and allows control via MythWeb.
 
 
 
 This will be great. This is one feature I miss when I stopped using 
 the
 SnapStream pvr on Windows. I could stream live tv and recordings to my
 handheld or from work over the internet. It was configurable as to the
 bandwidth / bitrates that you wanted to be able to use and transcoded 
 on
 the fly.

 - James
   
Agreed, I'm going to be trying this out as soon as I get a chance.
   
   
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Re: [mythtv-users] FW: New Source Forge Project MythStreamTV

2005-01-12 Thread David Whyte
The myth box that is doing the encoding is a sempron 2400 with 512B
RAM (quite low specd).  The box doing the playing was a Celeron 1GHz,
which maxed out the CPU to play the video (I can play higher quality
divx's fine on that machine though).

Off the top of my head, my load average was about 1.80 across the
board whilst streaming.

I obviously don't want to up the CPU on that machine, but I could at a
pinch put mmore RAM in.  Do you think that would help?

Dave

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:48:00 -0800, Joshua Ebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 What processor are you running on the Myth box? What Codec and VBR are you
 selecting? Are you recording or playing back on the Myth box at the same
 time? How much idle time is available on the CPU when playback is happening?
 
 With my P3 1000 VLC maxes out the CPU. I am able to transcode and stream
 with no pausing... Unless I am playing back and recording at the same time.
 
 I'm using XP with WMP 10 over 802.11b. Also using 500K and DIV3.
 
 top - 09:44:06 up 18 days, 21:54,  4 users,  load average: 1.13, 0.68, 0.41
 Tasks:  85 total,   4 running,  81 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
 Cpu(s):  98.0% user,   1.6% system,   0.0% nice,   0.3% idle
 Mem:255396k total,   250536k used, 4860k free,69372k buffers
 Swap:   923728k total,66752k used,   856976k free,66352k cached
 
   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  Command
 
 24251 www-data  18   0 18180  17m 2888 R 98.0  7.1   1:36.24 vlc
 
 processor   : 0
 vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
 cpu family  : 6
 model   : 8
 model name  : Pentium III (Coppermine)
 stepping: 10
 cpu MHz : 996.703
 cache size  : 256 KB
 fdiv_bug: no
 hlt_bug : no
 f00f_bug: no
 coma_bug: no
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception   : yes
 cpuid level : 2
 wp  : yes
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov
 pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse
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 Thanks,
 -Joshua Ebel
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Whyte
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:23 AM
 To: Discussion about mythtv
 Subject: Fwd: [mythtv-users] FW: New Source Forge Project MythStreamTV
 
 posted to the list incase anyone else can help!
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: David Whyte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 00:18:24 +1000
 Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] FW: New Source Forge Project MythStreamTV
 To: James Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Sounds like we are at the same stage.
 
 I am streaming to my Windows XP box and using Windows Media Player 10
 to view.  I am using an 11Mbs WiFi card and the myth box is wired into
 the router yet the video is continually pausing to buffer.  I am
 surprised it needs to do this given the clip is only playing at
 245Kbs, and I can see my network is not being used to its full
 potential.  Is this just a Windows Media Player issue and if so what
 is a better viewer to use?
 
 Dave
 
 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:11:51 -0500, James Armstrong
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  David Whyte wrote:
 
  James, do you understand the line in the installation README about
  configuring vlc and ffmpeg?  I think that is the problem I am having!
  
  I am currently getting
  
  VLC already alive, I'm going to whack it. THE PROCESS I MEAN!
  Starting Stream of 1000_2005011214_2005011215.nuv
  VLC media player 0.7.2 Bond
  [0213] dummy interface: Using the dummy interface module...
  [0214] main input: playlist item
  `/myth/recordings/1000_2005011214_2005011215.nuv'
  [0219] main private: creating httpd
  [0226] mpeg_audio packetizer: MPGA channels:2 samplerate:48000
 bitrate:256
  [0227] ffmpeg encoder error: cannot find encoder MPEG Audio layer
 1/2/3
  [0227] ffmpeg encoder error: cannot find encoder MPEG Audio layer
 1/2/3
  [0216] stream_out_transcode private error: cannot open encoder
  [0216] stream_out_transcode private error: cannot create audio chain
  [0226] main packetizer error: cannot create packetizer output
  
  I can't start the thing from the browser, I think it is a permissions
  problem (man I have heaps of those things) but I copy the command line
  and paste it in a terminal.  I also have to remove a '/' from the
  filename else I get a '//' created in the script.
  
  
  
  
  The only way I kind of got it half way working is to use port 8080 in
  the install script / manually edit the webpage. The mythstream.php has
  8080 hardcoded in it. The errors for MPEG Audio layer 1/2/3 I have not
  solved yet. I was able to test by making the AUDIO=$1 in the
  mythstream.php script to AUDIO= to not use an audio codec. This got
  vlc working with video / no audio for now.
 
  - James
 
 
 
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[mythtv-users] EPIA M10000+PVR-350+NO TvOut = slow?

2005-01-12 Thread frutillar

Hi.

Another thing I am wondering about is with respect to the performance of MythTV on an EPIA M1 mobo. I can go to watch LiveTV, but I only get to see one frame every so often... very, very, very choppy. No sound also, but I am assuming that the sound issue may be related to the video issue.

I do not have TvOut setup yet, so I am watching MythTV on my monitor still. (Next step after troubleshooting a few minor issues will be to turn this on).

When MythTV is on the menu (no LiveTV), "top" reports around 3-4% CPU load. However, when I watch LiveTV (the choppy live tv) top reports around 98-99% CPU usage. I did tell MythTV to use MPEG-2 through the PVR-350 when decoding (ie capturing from the cable feed), but it seems that the other half of the equation, ie watching the video stream, is eating up all the CPU.

KEY QUESTIONS: Is this normal? I believe this is not correct, but I just want to verify with others out there with a similar setup. If it is not normal, any thoughts on how I can troubleshoot this?

My setup:

EPIA M1
PVR-350 w/ grey-top/dark-bottom remote
Mandrake 10.1 (2.6.8.1-12mdk)
ivtv 0.3.2a
lirc 0.7.0

Thanks!!
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[mythtv-users] Installation: lircd not working?

2005-01-12 Thread Hugo van der Kooij
Hi,

I installed lircd according to the 2005-01-10 version of Jarod's guide.

I notice there is no /dev/lirc.

One should create a symbolic link called /dev/lirc that points to
/dev/lirc0

Before:
crw---  1 root root 61, 0 Jan 12 22:25 /dev/lirc0
srw-rw-rw-  1 root root 0 Jan 12 22:07 /dev/lircd

After:
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 5 Jan 12 22:47 lirc - lirc0
crw---  1 root root 61, 0 Jan 12 22:29 lirc0
srw-rw-rw-  1 root root 0 Jan 12 22:47 lircd

Hugo.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone using MediaMVP with 0.16?

2005-01-12 Thread Tim Sailer
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 10:56:10PM -0500, James Pifer wrote:
 I just got my MediaMVP and went through the install laid out on the
 mvpmc site @http://mvpmc.sourceforge.net/mvpmc-HOWTO-singlehtml.html. I
 got to the Menu, I can see my list of recordings but can't play them.
 Upon looking at mythbackend.log it says the client is trying to use
 protocol version 8 while the server (mythtv 0.16) is using protocol 13.
 This was not an issue I expected. I checked the FAQ on the mvpmc site
 and didn't see a version requirement.  
 
 What am I missing? Bad assumption that it can be used with 0.16? I have
 not tried NFS, yet. 

Try it with NFS first, and, if you are auto-transcoding the files
after they are recorded, you're SOL. The MVP only plays mpeg1/2, which
the transcoded files are not.

Tim

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[mythtv-users] Newbie needs help choosing hardware for use in the UK

2005-01-12 Thread Alexander Fisher
Hello.

I had a little play with mythTV over the weekend and was very impressed.
Great work guys!  I was using an old Hauppaggue frame grabber and no
soundcard, but it did suffice as proof of concept.

I'm now ready to take the plunge and invest in some proper hardware.  I've
got a base PC which I think will be good enough and I plan to get a
secondhand xbox to use as a frontend.

Here's the spec of what I've got...

Gigabyte GA-6BXD MB
Dual Pentium III 800Mhz
352MB 100Mhz SDRAM
250GB PATA HD (Western Digital)
30GB PATA HD with Debian Sarge installed.
nVidia MX200 (but I guess this isn't relevant for a backend only system)

Living in the UK, 2 DVB cards seem to be the way forward.  Am I right in
thinking that they all produce MPEG2 streams so no encoding has to be done
in software?  I've come up with a 3 card shortlist all available from
www.scan.co.uk (where I'll be placing an order for some unrelated stuff
later this week.) They are ...

Avermedia DVB-T PCI Card £64.44
Hauppauge WinTV-Nova-T Freeview receiver PCI (909) £62.06 Vision + PCI TV
Tuner - HDTV Compatible + Remote £46.06

Do all these cards definately have suitable drivers?  I think I read
somewhere that not all Nova-T's were the same.  I wouldn't want to end up
with an unsupported variant.
Or should I just go for the cheapest?  Shouldn't the outputted MPEG2 stream
be identical for each card?  The option to receive some of the top-up-tv
channels might be good too.  Has anybody got this working yet?

I'm hoping that the system will be capable of recording two programmes,
whilst simultaneously letting me watch a previously recorded show on the
xbox.  I don't suppose I'll want to do this that often but it would be nice.

Since my MB only supports UDMA-2, I'm also thinking of buying an addon PCI
ATA card.
I'm guessing I won't need any soundcards in a DVB only system?

Wow, what a lot of questions!  I really hope that somebody can help me out
with some of these.

Thanks!
Alex

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Re: [mythtv-users] Direct encoding for dvd PVR-350

2005-01-12 Thread Lane Schwartz
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:05:59 -0500, Jeff Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I might be confused (or wrong) on this, so bear with me for a bit:
 
 My Assumptions:
 1). The PVR-350 encodes and saves incoming audio/video in MPEG2 720x480
 2). DVD Video is encoded at MPEG2 720x480
 3). Framerates are probably the same
 
 What I'd like to get to the bottom of is why nuvexport to dvd takes
 ~8 hours for a 30 minute show on a 1.4ghz athlon.
 
 Specifically, I'd like to find out if there is a setting I can change
 in mythtv to make it record directly into a dvd compatible format.
 Barring that, if there is a way to make it automatically transcode
 into the correct format?
 
 Can anybody point me in the right direction on this? I've read a good
 number of scripts for making dvds and transcoding, and I'd like to try
 to get it to save in the right format the first time if possible.
 Thanks!

1. Mark your commercials in Myth

2. Use the MPEG2-MPEG2 option of nuvexport. This step should take
about 5-10 mins on your computer for a 30 minute show. Might take even
less time. Certainly no more than 10 mins.

3. Prepare a video DVD iso using the mpg2 file exported from step 3. I
use DVDStyler. Another app is Q DVD Author.

4. Burn the iso to dvd. I use k3b for this.

HTH,
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Re: Re: [mythtv-users] OT: NTP does not seem to be updating...

2005-01-12 Thread Justin Walther
My apologies...I misread what you wrote to say syslogging is not
working.  That is a known issue with FC3 updates and I just struggled
through that this past week.  My issue probably has nothing to do with
your issue.

--Justin


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:09:58 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: Justin Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 2005/01/12 Wed AM 09:55:54 EST
  To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org
  Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] OT: NTP does not seem to be updating...
 
  This is being caused by SELINUX crap.  Go into /etc/selinux/config and
  make sure this line is in there:
 
  SELINUX=disabled
 
  Reboot and syslogging will start working and NTP will start updating again.
 
  --Justin
  
 Thanks Justin,
 
 I will check this when I get home.
 
 Just to clarify for everyone else: ntpd is running, and when it actually 
 TRIES to update the time, the syslogging is fine. It just seems that it isn't 
 trying to update the time. When I /sbin/service ntpd restart, the time IS 
 updated correctly and the update is logged correctly.
 
 I will post again after I try tonight...
 
 Eric
 
 
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[mythtv-users] Upgrading Video Card Help

2005-01-12 Thread Gregg








I am upgrading from a gforce mx440 to an fx 5200 Do I have
to make any driver changes, or changes to the xorg.conf? I am hol=ping to take
advantage of Xvmc.



Thanks.








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Re: [mythtv-users] Will this Sabrent Card and it's remote work with MythTV?

2005-01-12 Thread Maverick
I'd second the Hauppage cards. I got a PVR-350, and running it on a
P3-667 with about 30% cpu max usage when playing a video and
recording, or watching tv delayed. Well worth the ~$180 for the
hardware encode/decoding.


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:57:20 -0500, Dewey Smolka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do yourself a big favor and spring for a Hauppage card. It's a breeze
 to get up and running. You can save money on other components.
 
 With a hardware-encoding card you don't need as much processing power,
 which means even a P-3 700 is enough. You can pick one of these up for
 around $150. You can also save by getting an older video card -- I use
 an nvidia Geforce 2. You can get that piece for a song.
 
 There's also great deals to be had on hard drives -- I saw a 160 GB
 Maxtor drive in Staples the other day for $60 (after $40 mail-in
 rebate).
 
 
 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:21:24 -0500, Tim Smoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yeah, I know try to go cheap and you get what you pay for!
 
  I just want to get started, and am on a limited budget!  As we all are I am
  sure!
 
  Thanks,
 
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RE: [mythtv-users] FW: New Source Forge Project MythStreamTV

2005-01-12 Thread Joshua Ebel
VLC isn't finding the ffmpeg mp3-lame encoder so the audio stream isn't able
to start.

It has to do with VLC's configure options. Sorry I don't have more of a
clear answer on how to fix it. But initially I saw the same problem. Now I
just need to remember what I did to fix it

ffmpeg version 0.4.9-pre1, build 4734, Copyright (c) 2000-2004 Fabrice
Bellard
  configuration:  --disable-x11 --disable-xvideo --disable-gtk --disable-sdl
--enable-ffmpeg --with-ffmpeg-mp3lame --with-ffmpeg-faac --with-ffmpeg-zlib
--enable-mad --enable-libdvbpsi --enable-a52 --disable-dvdplay
--enable-dvdnav --enable-vorbis --enable-ogg --enable-theora --enable-mkv
--enable-freetype --disable-cddax --disable-vcdx --enable-speex
--enable-flac --enable-goom --enable-livedotcom --enable-caca
--disable-skins2 --enable-modplug --enable-debug --enable-gpl
--enable-mp3lame --enable-pp --enable-shared-pp

When you configure VLC try it with flag --with-ffmpeg-config-path=PATH

Hope that helps.
-Joshua Ebel
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Bradley
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:59 AM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] FW: New Source Forge Project MythStreamTV

ok...i am now getting this error...any ideas:

Starting Stream of 1196_2005010803_20050108045000.nuv
VLC media player 0.8.1 Janus
[0228] dummy interface: Using the dummy interface module...
[0234] main private: creating httpd
[0243] mpeg_audio packetizer: MPGA channels:2 samplerate:48000
bitrate:384
[0245] ffmpeg encoder error: cannot find encoder MPEG Audio layer 1/2/3
[0231] stream_out_transcode private error: cannot find encoder
[0231] stream_out_transcode private error: cannot create audio chain
[0243] main packetizer error: cannot create packetizer output



On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:10:21 -0800, Joshua Ebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I've released a new project on Source Forge called MythStreamTV.
 MythStreamTV is currently available in Alpha at
 http://mythstreamtv.sourceforge.net/ for download.
 
 MythStreamTV is a MythTV addon that allows live transcoding of nupplevideo
 to Windows Media Player/Mplayer and allows control via MythWeb.
 
 Current featureset of MythStreamTV includes:
 -Codec Selection of DIV3 and WMV2
 -Video Bitrate Selection
 -Playlist Creation
 -Streaming of LiveTV and Recorded programming
 
 Future enhancements:
 -Remote video control (fast forward, rewind, pause etc)
 -Streaming of DVD playback
 -More codecs
 -Autolanch of MMS client
 
 Enjoy!
 -Joshua Ebel
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV Newbie observations / questions

2005-01-12 Thread Simon Kenyon
On Saturday 08 January 2005 17:26, Tony Howard wrote:
 I started out with 480x480 video, then tried to decrease the resolution
 in the recording profiles (for a wireless frontend).
i run a frontend with 802.11g (my lapop)
i can do 720x576 @ 5000/6500max just fine

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Re: [mythtv-users] FW: New Source Forge Project MythStreamTV

2005-01-12 Thread Asher Schaffer
I guess I should have realized that an EPIA M10K wouldn't have enough
power to stream this, oh well.  It rebuffers every 10-20 seconds.  I
wasn't really thinking it through while I was working to get it setup.
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[mythtv-users] RHEL3 / Centos MythTV support

2005-01-12 Thread Blammo [doh]
I've searched and come up with a few posts about RHEL3 support, but I
wanted to ask directly, and more currently:

What's the status of RHEL3 as a MythTV backend? How's the IVTV
support? Any one have one working? Any Caveats?

Considering reformatting my FC1 machine as a Centos 3.3 box, since we
use Centos in a production enviroment, and have been VERY happy with
it, combined with apt-get.

Thoughts?

(thanks in advance)
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Re: [mythtv-users] FC3 - Downloading kernel source

2005-01-12 Thread jani
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc3/x86/ search for
kernel, read the fourth hit


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:39:14 -0600, Drew Zerdecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What mirrors have the source kernels?  I can kind them on the regular
 redhat mirrors.
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 Remote - Hmmm!

2005-01-12 Thread Dave
Did you put your lircrc into ~./mythtv/lircrc?
-Dave
On Jan 12, 2005, at 1:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
 
I am almost there with my mythbox, but I am having issues with the 
remote.  What is strange is that irw sees the remote fine (all the 
keys I press come-up with the right names), but nothing happens when I 
try to use the remote with MythTV.  I changed the settings in 
settings.pro so that it will use native lirc, but I cannot get it to 
work correctly.
 
Any thoughts?
 
My setup:
 
EPIA M1 mobo
PVR-350 with grey-top  black-bottom (dark bottom)
Mandrake 10.1 (2.6.8.1-12mdk)
ivtv 0.3.2a
lirc 0.7.0
MythTV 0.16
 
Thanks for your help!!
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] commercially-produced mythboxes -- an idea

2005-01-12 Thread Maverick
 We have no desire to provide software support (or deal with zap2it

I think you answered your own question right there. Someone who is
interested in spending $1000 to record HDTV, and who doesn't have
enough knowledge/experience to build their own Myth box, will want
service, support and a warranty. I believe that's one reason TiVo has
been successful, my mom can use it and if she has a question, they
have a number to call. MythTV isn't my mom kind of simple, just
trying to have her login to a website and sign up for zap2it would far
exceed her abilities...

Maybe I misunderstood your target market,
-Kenneth
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Re: [mythtv-users] DVB Radio

2005-01-12 Thread Robin Elvin
On Wednesday 12 January 2005 15:28, George Styles wrote:
 
  You could always use nuvexport to convert the files to mp3.  I ripped
  the new HHGTTG like that.
 
 True, i think you have to use nuvexport if the video is recorded in nuppel 
 format, but I have a DVB card, so I can skip that step and tell ffmpeg to 
 directly encode the .nuv...
 
 I didnt have much luck with nuvexport overall on dvb files :)
 
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Neither did I until a hack was suggested. Look for 'nuvexport corrupts video' 
in this month's list for the solution that helped me.

Back to radio, I tried creating a new channel and assign the audio pid of a 
radio station to it but it all goes very stuttery, particularly the video to 
the point where the OSD crashes the frontend.

Example:

I used price-drop.tv as the base video channel and used the audio PID of Radio 
4 which is on the same mux. I get the video of price-drop.tv jumping all over 
and as expected the audio for Radio 4 but it keeps dropping out. If I look at 
the console output for mythfrontend it keeps complaining about lost audio.

I thought it might be a signal problem but all the TV channels on that mux are 
fine.

Anybody have any ideas?

Thanks

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[mythtv-users] Tearing and the mythical VBlank ioctl

2005-01-12 Thread William Uther
Hi,
  My myth box has been tearing during playback.  It was pointed out 
that starting mythfrontend with the -v playback option would give me 
debugging information: and I found out that I didn't have DRI drivers 
for my savage chipset.  I installed the latest savage drivers, version 
of Xorg, etc.  Then I got this error:

 DRMVideoSync: VBlank ioctl did not work, unimplemented in this driver?
I posted on the savage driver mailing list and it was confirmed that 
this was unimplemented as yet.

So  I then went out and bought myself a cheap nVidia card.  I 
figured that hardware shouldn't be an issue here - getting the vblank 
information is a fairly basic function.  So I bought myself the 
cheapest nVidia I could find - a Gigabyte board with an nVidia MX 4000 
chipset.

I managed to get the nVidia drivers installed (2.6.10 kernel requires a 
patched nVidia driver, sigh).  I then started up myth with the -v 
playback option and got:

 nVidiaVideoSync: VBlank ioctl did not work, unimplemented in this 
driver?

WTF?!?  The nVidiaVideoSync method was written to work with those 
nVidia drivers, wasn't it?

Does anyone actually implement this ioctl?  Has anyone managed to get 
either DRMVideoSync or nVidiaVideoSync to work?  If so, what chipset 
and driver combination did you use?

Frustrated,
Will  :-}
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Re: [mythtv-users] Direct encoding for dvd PVR-350

2005-01-12 Thread Blammo [doh]
I'd love to know this as well  Im in the same boat.



On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:05:59 -0500, Jeff Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I might be confused (or wrong) on this, so bear with me for a bit:
 
 My Assumptions:
 1). The PVR-350 encodes and saves incoming audio/video in MPEG2 720x480
 2). DVD Video is encoded at MPEG2 720x480
 3). Framerates are probably the same
 
 What I'd like to get to the bottom of is why nuvexport to dvd takes
 ~8 hours for a 30 minute show on a 1.4ghz athlon.
 
 Specifically, I'd like to find out if there is a setting I can change
 in mythtv to make it record directly into a dvd compatible format.
 Barring that, if there is a way to make it automatically transcode
 into the correct format?
 
 Can anybody point me in the right direction on this? I've read a good
 number of scripts for making dvds and transcoding, and I'd like to try
 to get it to save in the right format the first time if possible.
 Thanks!
 
 - Jeff
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] FC3 - Downloading kernel source

2005-01-12 Thread jani
The fedora core 3 release notes
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc3/x86/ cover how to get
the source.  It's a fair way along the document, so just search for
kernel, and it should be the fourth hit.  By the way, if you use the
up2date method you need to be running in an X environment rather than
just ssh'd in.

cheers,
jani


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:14:17 -0500, Dan Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Download the SRPM or the tar manually instead of using apt
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drew Zerdecki
 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 12:51 PM
 To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
 Subject: [mythtv-users] FC3 - Downloading kernel source
 
 Using the FC3 how-to, I installed 2.6.9-1.724_FC3smp.  However, how do I get
 the source?  I haven't been able to figure out how to do this yet via
 apt-get (do I get-source kernel=$MYKERNEL or something?) Nor, have I been
 able  to find the kernel-source for .724_FC3smp to download on the
 mirrors.Any suggestions?
 
 Thanks..
 
 Drew
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[mythtv-users] OT: Samba Config with error messages

2005-01-12 Thread Gregg
Greetings Just a guess If you are running service pack 2 unblock
network file sharing and netbios.


Message: 29
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:13:54 -0700
From: nowhere [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [mythtv-users] OT: Samba Config with error messages
To: MythTV Users mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

Hi everyone! Sorry for the off topic post but you all are the most
knowledgeable Linux group I know.

I am trying to share my mythbox's /video partition with mostly success
but I have some error messages I would like to clean up. I have a VERY
simple smb.conf file as follows:

[global]
   encrypt passwords = yes
   guest account = smbguest
   netbios name = MythBox
   security = share
   socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
IPTOS_LOWDELAY
   wins support = yes
   workgroup = MSHOME
[pub]
   path = /video
   read only = no
   guest ok = yes
   guest only = yes

I am 100% able to access the /video partition from a windows machine in
the same workgroup with no problems.

In my messages file I get the following error repeated frequently...

Jan 11 23:59:10 MythBox nmbd[2366]: [2005/01/11 23:59:10, 0]
nmbd/nmbd_browsesync.c:find_domain_master_name_query_fail(353)
Jan 11 23:59:10 MythBox nmbd[2366]:
find_domain_master_name_query_fail:
Jan 11 23:59:10 MythBox nmbd[2366]:   Unable to find the Domain Master
Browser name MSHOME1b for the workgroup MSHOME.
Jan 11 23:59:10 MythBox nmbd[2366]:   Unable to sync browse lists in
this workgroup.

Not sure how to get rid of this.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Eric
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Re: [mythtv-users] FW: New Source Forge Project MythStreamTV

2005-01-12 Thread David Whyte
it not an error as such.  it is working, just point your media player 
to port 8080 and you should recieve content.  I get video, not audio!


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:59:08 -0600, Bill Bradley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ok...i am now getting this error...any ideas:
 
 Starting Stream of 1196_2005010803_20050108045000.nuv
 VLC media player 0.8.1 Janus
 [0228] dummy interface: Using the dummy interface module...
 [0234] main private: creating httpd
 [0243] mpeg_audio packetizer: MPGA channels:2 samplerate:48000 bitrate:384
 [0245] ffmpeg encoder error: cannot find encoder MPEG Audio layer 1/2/3
 [0231] stream_out_transcode private error: cannot find encoder
 [0231] stream_out_transcode private error: cannot create audio chain
 [0243] main packetizer error: cannot create packetizer output
 
 
 On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:10:21 -0800, Joshua Ebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Greetings,
 
  I've released a new project on Source Forge called MythStreamTV.
  MythStreamTV is currently available in Alpha at
  http://mythstreamtv.sourceforge.net/ for download.
 
  MythStreamTV is a MythTV addon that allows live transcoding of nupplevideo
  to Windows Media Player/Mplayer and allows control via MythWeb.
 
  Current featureset of MythStreamTV includes:
  -Codec Selection of DIV3 and WMV2
  -Video Bitrate Selection
  -Playlist Creation
  -Streaming of LiveTV and Recorded programming
 
  Future enhancements:
  -Remote video control (fast forward, rewind, pause etc)
  -Streaming of DVD playback
  -More codecs
  -Autolanch of MMS client
 
  Enjoy!
  -Joshua Ebel
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythPhone causes mythfrontend to lock??

2005-01-12 Thread Jim Kusznir
Paul Volkaerts wrote:
Jim;
I just added a loopback mode to Mythphone; could you try this when you get a
chance?  You just hit L within Mythphone and rather than place a call it
loops audio/video either at the local socket or at the NAT device (you need
port-forwarding set on your NAT device for this to work). It allows you to
test that the H.263 and RTP is running fine without worrying about network
issues.
Paul
 

Sorry for the delay; I've been traveling.
Unfortunately, I no longer have physical access to my myth system.  I 
set it up for my parents, and have gone back home after the holidy 
season.  (I was envisioning using this to communicate with them after 
moving home.)

I still have terminal access, and can periodically have my parents try 
stuff out on the box, but there will usually be long delays between tests.

Thanks again for your development efforts, and a package that's still 
pretty useful!

--Jim
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[mythtv-users] TV Schdedule/Lineup Question

2005-01-12 Thread Ian Connor
Does anyone understand how the lineups work?

Do the individual stations publish their schedules to a small number
of schedule agre gators (or is tribune the only one you need worry
about)?

I am working with a public access channel and I am not sure who to
send the schedules so that they are properly downloaded to mythtv (and
other online schedules).

The station is based in Concord, MA

Regards,
Ian Connor
http://www.concordtv.org
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Re: [mythtv-users] Possible solution to slow mythfilldatabase with tv_grab_uk_rt

2005-01-12 Thread Nick Morrott
 Nick Morrott wrote:
  I've been looking into this after having had it take up to 3 hours for a
  complete run cycle of mythfilldatabase, providing listings for 3
sourceids
  but only 15 channels. It would appear when just running
'mythfilldatabase'
  from the command line that the program was looping or taking a *very*
long
  time to get listings into the database.
 
 The real solution, of course, is to patch mythfilldatabase so it doesn't
 attempt to download and insert the same listings 14 times :)

 Patch submitted to -dev.


Thanks so much for checking this - it really did seem to be looping many
times when monitored closely. Thanks for the patch - I'll try it when I next
checkout Myth.

Cheers,

Nick



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[mythtv-users] Re: Re: New Mac Mini

2005-01-12 Thread Mike Frisch
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 03:22:59PM -0600, Steve Frank wrote:
 I will reintroduce a question I've had, what about using Firewire for
 video out on Myth? My HDTV set has firewire In, and the Mini has this
 nice firewire port.

In the past, HDTVs that had Firewire inputs were to be matched to STBs
from the same manufacturer (I think Panasonic was one of the first that
did this).  It wasn't a standard Firewire interface in the truest sense
in that it only worked with the matching STB.

Check AVSForum to confirm that this is still the case.
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 Remote - Hmmm!

2005-01-12 Thread Maverick
Did you setup /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc ? I have the same remote as
you. My working settings can be found here (post #3):

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/103207

HTH,
-Kenneth


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:19:56 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Hi! 
   
 I am almost there with my mythbox, but I am having issues with the remote.
  What is strange is that irw sees the remote fine (all the keys I press
 come-up with the right names), but nothing happens when I try to use the
 remote with MythTV.  I changed the settings in settings.pro so that it will
 use native lirc, but I cannot get it to work correctly. 
   
 Any thoughts? 
   
 My setup: 
   
 EPIA M1 mobo 
 PVR-350 with grey-top  black-bottom (dark bottom) 
 Mandrake 10.1 (2.6.8.1-12mdk) 
 ivtv 0.3.2a 
 lirc 0.7.0 
 MythTV 0.16 
   
 Thanks for your help!! 
   
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPIA M10000+PVR-350+NO TvOut = slow?

2005-01-12 Thread Joe Votour
On an Epia, you should either use the PVR-350 TV-Out
or XvMC, or else you will be utilizing 85%+ of the
CPU, when decoding in software.

If you have Xv (XVideo) working fine with your Epia,
then software decoding shouldn't be stuttering that
badly.  I can only guess that you're using an X server
that doesn't support the Epia for accelerated video. 
Note that to use XvMC with the Epia you need a patched
X server with Unichrome support, as well as a copy of
MythTV from CVS.

-- Joe

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi.
 
 Another thing I am wondering about is with respect
 to the performance of MythTV on an EPIA M1 mobo.
  I can go to watch LiveTV, but I only get to see one
 frame every so often... very, very, very choppy.  No
 sound also, but I am assuming that the sound issue
 may be related to the video issue.
 
 I do not have TvOut setup yet, so I am watching
 MythTV on my monitor still. (Next step after
 troubleshooting a few minor issues will be to turn
 this on).
 
 When MythTV is on the menu (no LiveTV), top
 reports around 3-4% CPU load.  However, when I watch
 LiveTV (the choppy live tv) top reports around
 98-99% CPU usage.  I did tell MythTV to use MPEG-2
 through the PVR-350 when decoding (ie capturing from
 the cable feed), but it seems that the other half of
 the equation, ie watching the video stream, is
 eating up all the CPU.
 
 KEY QUESTIONS:  Is this normal?  I believe this is
 not correct, but I just want to verify with others
 out there with a similar setup.  If it is not
 normal, any thoughts on how I can troubleshoot this?
 
 My setup:
 
 EPIA M1
 PVR-350 w/ grey-top/dark-bottom remote
 Mandrake 10.1 (2.6.8.1-12mdk)
 ivtv 0.3.2a
 lirc 0.7.0
 
 Thanks!!
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: New Mac Mini

2005-01-12 Thread Jack Trout
I havent done any Break downs lately as I dont work with macs much
anymore. but I used to run a video editing lab for a school and as far
as video compression wise g4's outstripped p4's in most ways as
processor speed isnt the only factor in a risc enviroment, but its
quite easy to show that megahertz to megahertz in PC Vs Mac is not a
true sign power as a 400mhz g4 was still at least twice as fast as a
600mhz g3 in video compression



On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 15:22:59 -0600, Steve Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Frisch
  Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:23 AM
  To: Discussion about mythtv
  Subject: [mythtv-users] Re: New Mac Mini
 
 
  On 11-Jan-05, at 5:37 PM, Marc Nicholas wrote:
 
   I wouldn't jump to that conclusion until you've seen the
  output. Just
   because there's an ATI 9200 chipset on the board, doesn't mean that
   the analog stage is the same as that from XYZ PC video card vendor.
   And that's one thing that often makes or breaks analog TV.
  
 
  I will make that conclusion based on the fact that I have yet
  to see a decent S-Video or composite video output in the
  number of years they've been available.  I still think a scan
  converter is a better solution.
 
   Now finding one in a store before the end of this month is
  going to be
   tough to prove that ;-)
 
  Better order now!
 
 
 
 I will reintroduce a question I've had, what about using Firewire for
 video out on Myth? My HDTV set has firewire In, and the Mini has this
 nice firewire port.
 
 
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RE: [mythtv-users] FW: New Source Forge Project MythStreamTV

2005-01-12 Thread Joshua Ebel
Ohhh no, you gotsta' compile from source. :) You need those happy configure
options or the codecs and transcoding aren't going to be very happy.

Download the source for ffmpeg and VLC. When you do the ./configure use the
options in the readme. Sorry if this wasn't clear. I'll be working on the
docs to have a step-by-step guide of howto do this.

Sorry for any confusion. I should have another version coming out tonight
with more bug fixes.

Thanks,

-Joshua Ebel
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Whyte
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 1:22 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] FW: New Source Forge Project MythStreamTV

Joshua,

I couldn't understand what this part of the README meant so I didn't
do it :|  How do I do this part?  I wonder if it may help with
streaming the audio too.

You are using FC2 you said.  Did you just use packages for vlc and
ffmpeg or did you compile yourself?

Cheers,
Dave


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:14:47 +1000, David Whyte [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 hmmcan anyone who has tried this module tell me how I complete
 this section of the installation guide?
 
 Configure VLC and ffmpeg with the following options-
 --disable-x11 --disable-xvideo --disable-gtk --disable-sdl --enable-ffmpeg
--wit
 h-ffmpeg-mp3lame --with-ffmpeg-faac --with-ffmpeg-zlib --enable-mad
--enable-lib
 dvbpsi --enable-a52 --disable-dvdplay --enable-dvdnav --enable-vorbis
--enable-o
 gg --enable-theora --enable-mkv --enable-freetype --disable-cddax
--disable-vcdx
  --enable-speex --enable-flac --enable-goom --enable-livedotcom
--enable-caca --
 disable-skins2 --enable-modplug --enable-debug --enable-gpl
--enable-mp3lame --e
 nable-pp --enable-shared-pp
 
 Cheers,
 Whytey
 
 
 On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:30:47 +, Ciaran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does this imply it won't run with the latest CVS version of myth?
  Thanks,
  - Ciaran
 
 
  On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:36:34 -0800, Joshua Ebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Yes 0.16 should be fine. I'm running 0.16.20040906-1.
  
   Thanks for your interest!
   -Joshua Ebel
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Whyte
   Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 2:10 PM
   To: Asher Schaffer; Discussion about mythtv
   Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] FW: New Source Forge Project MythStreamTV
  
   Oooh!  This sounds interesting.  Exactly what I was looking for :D
  
   I take it it would work with 0.16?
  
   On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:56:40 -0800, Asher Schaffer
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 14:36:49 -0500, James Armstrong
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've released a new project on Source Forge called MythStreamTV.
 MythStreamTV is currently available in Alpha at
 http://mythstreamtv.sourceforge.net/ for download.
 
 
 MythStreamTV is a MythTV addon that allows live transcoding of
   nupplevideo
 to Windows Media Player/Mplayer and allows control via MythWeb.
 
 
 
 This will be great. This is one feature I miss when I stopped
using the
 SnapStream pvr on Windows. I could stream live tv and recordings
to my
 handheld or from work over the internet. It was configurable as to
the
 bandwidth / bitrates that you wanted to be able to use and
transcoded on
 the fly.

 - James
   
Agreed, I'm going to be trying this out as soon as I get a chance.
   
   
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: NTP does not seem to be updating...

2005-01-12 Thread Maverick
It may be that my old habits die hard, but I still use a perl script
to sync time on my *nix machines:

ftp://mirror.hiwaay.net/CPAN/authors/id/A/AO/AOCINAR/nist-2.1.13.tar.gz

it's simple, and you can run it from cron and update your clock
whenever you feel like it. Just remember to edit the timeserver and
timediff you want to use...

-Kenneth

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 00:27:24 -0700, nowhere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi!
 
 My mythbox's clock is drifting and it seems that ntp is not updating the
 clock. There are no messages whatsoever in /var/log/messages for ntp.
 
 Service reports ntpd to be running. If I restart the service it updates
 immediately and just fine and then the correct info is logged in
 /var/log/messages. Just doesn't seem to be doing it automatically.
 
 Thanks!
 Eric
 
 Here is my ntp.conf file:
 
 # Prohibit general access to this service.
 restrict default ignore
 restrict snip mask 255.255.255.255 nomodify notrap noquery
 
 # Permit all access over the loopback interface.  This could
 # be tightened as well, but to do so would effect some of
 # the administrative functions.
 restrict 127.0.0.1
 
 # -- CLIENT NETWORK ---
 # Permit systems on this network to synchronize with this
 # time service.  Do not permit those systems to modify the
 # configuration of this service.  Also, do not use those
 # systems as peers for synchronization.
 # restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 notrust nomodify notrap
 
 # --- OUR TIMESERVERS -
 # or remove the default restrict line
 # Permit time synchronization with our time source, but do not
 # permit the source to query or modify the service on this system.
 
 # restrict mytrustedtimeserverip mask 255.255.255.255 nomodify notrap
 noquery
 # server mytrustedtimeserverip
 
 # --- NTP MULTICASTCLIENT ---
 #multicastclient# listen on default 224.0.1.1
 # restrict 224.0.1.1 mask 255.255.255.255 notrust nomodify notrap
 # restrict 192.168.1.0 mask 255.255.255.0 notrust nomodify notrap
 
 # --- GENERAL CONFIGURATION ---
 #
 # Undisciplined Local Clock. This is a fake driver intended for backup
 # and when no outside source of synchronized time is available. The
 # default stratum is usually 3, but in this case we elect to use stratum
 # 0. Since the server line does not have the prefer keyword, this driver
 # is never used for synchronization, unless no other other
 # synchronization source is available. In case the local host is
 # --- GENERAL CONFIGURATION ---
 #
 # Undisciplined Local Clock. This is a fake driver intended for backup
 # and when no outside source of synchronized time is available. The
 # default stratum is usually 3, but in this case we elect to use stratum
 # 0. Since the server line does not have the prefer keyword, this driver
 # is never used for synchronization, unless no other other
 # synchronization source is available. In case the local host is
 # controlled by some external source, such as an external oscillator or
 # another protocol, the prefer keyword would cause the local host to
 # disregard all other synchronization sources, unless the kernel
 # modifications are in use and declare an unsynchronized condition.
 #
 server us.pool.ntp.org
 fudge   127.127.1.0 stratum 10
 
 #
 # Drift file.  Put this in a directory which the daemon can write to.
 # No symbolic links allowed, either, since the daemon updates the file
 # by creating a temporary in the same directory and then rename()'ing
 # it to the file.
 #
 driftfile /var/lib/ntp/drift
 broadcastdelay  0.008
 
 #
 # Authentication delay.  If you use, or plan to use someday, the
 # authentication facility you should make the programs in the auth_stuff
 # directory and figure out what this number should be on your machine.
 #
 authenticate yes
 
 #
 # Keys file.  If you want to diddle your server at run time, make a
 # keys file (mode 600 for sure) and define the key number to be
 # used for making requests.
 #
 # PLEASE DO NOT USE THE DEFAULT VALUES HERE. Pick your own, or remote
 # systems might be able to reset your clock at will. Note also that
 # ntpd is started with a -A flag, disabling authentication, that
 # will have to be removed as well.
 #
 keys/etc/ntp/keys
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] EPIA M10000+PVR-350+NO TvOut = slow?

2005-01-12 Thread Maverick
Did you set the other option in mythfrontend's setup to use the PVR350
HARDWARE DECODER? This one got me for an hour the other day setting up
my first Myth box.

It's normal if you're just trying to use X's screen output, normal TV
out on the PVR 350 is full frame rate.

HTH,
-Kenneth


On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:29:05 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Hi. 
   
 Another thing I am wondering about is with respect to the performance of
 MythTV on an EPIA M1 mobo.  I can go to watch LiveTV, but I only get to
 see one frame every so often... very, very, very choppy.  No sound also, but
 I am assuming that the sound issue may be related to the video issue. 
   
 I do not have TvOut setup yet, so I am watching MythTV on my monitor still.
 (Next step after troubleshooting a few minor issues will be to turn this
 on). 
   
 When MythTV is on the menu (no LiveTV), top reports around 3-4% CPU load. 
 However, when I watch LiveTV (the choppy live tv) top reports around 98-99%
 CPU usage.  I did tell MythTV to use MPEG-2 through the PVR-350 when
 decoding (ie capturing from the cable feed), but it seems that the other
 half of the equation, ie watching the video stream, is eating up all the
 CPU. 
   
 KEY QUESTIONS:  Is this normal?  I believe this is not correct, but I just
 want to verify with others out there with a similar setup.  If it is not
 normal, any thoughts on how I can troubleshoot this? 
   
 My setup: 
   
 EPIA M1 
 PVR-350 w/ grey-top/dark-bottom remote 
 Mandrake 10.1 (2.6.8.1-12mdk) 
 ivtv 0.3.2a 
 lirc 0.7.0 
   
 Thanks!! 
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[mythtv-users] MythVideo losing file info

2005-01-12 Thread David W Davis
Has anyone had issues with MythVideo losing file info?  Such as not
remembering a file was marked as not browesable or losing association
with a cover image and the imdb info.  Or not playing files in
sequence even though they are marked to play as such?  My videos are
on a windows box which I mount via samba on my remote frontend.  The
frontend runs fc3 with myth .16.  The backend runs fc1 with myth .16
(I think, how do I verify this?  I recently ran an apt-get update and
apt-get install mythtv-suite, so I assume it is .16).  Any ideas or
suggestions are appreciated.

Dave
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Re: [mythtv-users] Getting VCR Recordings Into MythTV/MythVideo

2005-01-12 Thread John Williams
True.  I've managed to do it as a manual recording by binding an
 aux input to a bogus channel.  It never quite worked the way I thought
 it should, however.  

Cory,
How did you set up the bogus channel? Then how did you tue to it? I'm
willing to work a little at it, but I'm not sure where to start.
Thanks,
john
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Re: [mythtv-users] Workaround for WM Focus Issues

2005-01-12 Thread Michael Ford
On Sunday 05 September 2004 10:46 pm, Michael T. Dean wrote:
 /me punts


 If anyone knows of a solution to the problem or a less ugly workaround,
 please let me know.

 Mike

I found a fix digging around the net.  There's  a section of Xine source code 
that sets the focus to the root window upon exit (event.c line 1814-1819).   
The attached patch comments out that section.  Apply to xine-ui-0.99 and 
recompile.  This fixed it for me!
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Re: [mythtv-users] Using Shutdown

2005-01-12 Thread Phill Edwards
 I got a question, here that has been kinda of making me wonder, so I
 figured I would just ask.
 
 I use nvram-wakeup and have everything working pretty well. The question
 I have is about using the mythfilldatabase with any type of shutdown
 scenario.
 
 When you use mythtv's own scheduler for filling the database, does it
 restart the pc for mythfilldatabase like it does for a scheduled recording?

Don't know, but you can work around the problem anyway by using
anacron instead of the mythtv scheduler. Anacron is like using cron
except you set the tv listings grabber and mythfilldatabase to run
daily without specifying a particular time. Create a shell script to
run these and put it in /etc/cron.daily/. That way anacron ensure it
will run whenever the machine turns itself back regardless of what
time of day it is.
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[mythtv-users] Re: Auto-shutdown question

2005-01-12 Thread Phill Edwards
I'd like to configure my mythbox to automatically turn off. Noise,
heat, and so on. I have a dedicated mythbox, and a second machine that
serves as email/web server.

I tend to use mythweb (running on the web server) to schedule shows.
Obviously, if the master backend runs on the mythbox, a
mythweb-scheduled show won't trigger a wakeup. So I was wondering if I
could do something like follows:

Master backend on web server, never turns off. No capture card, either.
Slave backend on mythbox, turns off; is woken by master backend (WOL)
when recordings are due.

It's a little convoluted, but should work, right?

You could use nvram-wakeup. This lets the backend shut down and set a
wake-up time to start up again based on the recording schedule. Have a
look through the gossamer list archive to find info on this. The
drawbacks I have found with this are when the front and backends are
on the same box, and that the box may be turned off when you want to
schedule a recording over mythweb from work etc (I suppose that could
be solved with WOL). Apart from that, this works really well for me.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Tearing and the mythical VBlank ioctl

2005-01-12 Thread Doug Larrick
William Uther wrote:
I managed to get the nVidia drivers installed (2.6.10 kernel requires a 
patched nVidia driver, sigh).  I then started up myth with the -v 
playback option and got:

  nVidiaVideoSync: VBlank ioctl did not work, unimplemented in this 
driver?

WTF?!?  The nVidiaVideoSync method was written to work with those nVidia 
drivers, wasn't it?
nVidia broke this some time after the 4xxx series of drivers.  The new 
ones (6111 and later) work well with OpenGL vsync.  Be advised that some 
(myself included) have trouble with the latest driver and MX440/MX4000 
cards and need to drop back to 6111.  You should be happier with this 
card and OpenGL vsync.

-Doug


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Re: [mythtv-users] Getting VCR Recordings Into MythTV/MythVideo

2005-01-12 Thread John Johnson
Sounds like a good job for a plugin MythDub or the like.
Regards,
  JJ
On 12-Jan-2005, at 14:56, Cory Papenfuss wrote:
Oh, I agree it would be useful, but since you are going to personally
be there for the recording (ie. folks were thinking of it as a manaul
recording now) a simple visit to the tuner status page of mythweb or
mythtv will tell you that the tuners are free and for how long.
	True.  I've managed to do it as a manual recording by binding an aux  
input to a bogus channel.  It never quite worked the way I thought  
it should, however.  IIRC I couldn't watch that channel in livetv...  
I could only set a manual recording and then watch it once it started.  
 It was quite a PITA.


It's a hard choice actually.  There is a push to make tools like
MythTV do everything -- and that's particularly important when
you put them in front of people who would find the suggestion of
running a video recording program or catting the /dev/video0 as out
of their experience.  But no program can do everything, even all
your a/v needs, and so people prioritize.
	Notice I'm not whining that it doesn't do it... merely suggesting  
that it would be nice.  If I had the time (stupid Ph.D!), I might  
plink away at it, but right now I don't.  Everyone has a priority on  
what they think is most important.

	That's the blessing/curse of open-source.  You want it to everything.  
 Fortunately, it's usually doable.

-Cory
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv on x86_64 SMP

2005-01-12 Thread Tom
Ian Forde wrote:
 I've been running myth on a x86_64 box for about a month and here's what
 I've got:

 The good:

 The bad:

 The ugly:

Thanks for the very informative list o'stuff. I was going to use FC3, 
but if things go horribly awry, I'll try Gentoo.

Good to know it is (mostly) working though. That's a big step from just 
a few months back.

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[mythtv-users] Any way to force a delay before MythTV changes channels??

2005-01-12 Thread Jason Weinstein
I am working on getting myth MythTV box set up with: 1) an antenna
rotor that MythTV controls whenever changing channels and 2) digital
tv with my pcHDTV HD-3000.

I think I've got the rotor thing down. The rotor controller has an IR
remote so I am using lirc and a IR transmitter to control the rotor.
MythTV controls the rotor just like it would a cable or sattelite box.

Problem is that currently MythTV has a major (for what I'm trying to
do) bug in that if it tunes to a digital station that does not have a
strong signal then MythTV crashes/hangs/freezes.
So, I need for MythTV, when tuning to a digital station, to first run
a command that sends the IR signal to the rotor, then wait x number of
seconds, and then tune the HD-3000 to the desired channel.

Is this in any way possible??  Or can I expect that in the near future
the bug that causes MythTV to hang when tuning to a weak or
non-existant digital station?

Thanks much,

Jason
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RE: [mythtv-users] Newbie needs help choosing hardware for use in the UK

2005-01-12 Thread mythtv-users
Alexander Wrote:

 Hello.

Hello :-)
 
 I had a little play with mythTV over the weekend and was very 
 impressed. Great work guys!  I was using an old Hauppaggue 
 frame grabber and no soundcard, but it did suffice as proof 
 of concept.
 
 I'm now ready to take the plunge and invest in some proper 
 hardware.  I've got a base PC which I think will be good 
 enough and I plan to get a secondhand xbox to use as a frontend.

snipola
 
 Living in the UK, 2 DVB cards seem to be the way forward.  Am 
 I right in thinking that they all produce MPEG2 streams so no 
 encoding has to be done in software? 

Yes and no, yes in that the stream from the card is mpeg2 no in that
you might want to transcode the mpeg2 stream to mpeg4 for less disk
space.

 I've come up with a 3 
 card shortlist all available from www.scan.co.uk (where I'll 
 be placing an order for some unrelated stuff later this 
 week.) They are ...
 
 Avermedia DVB-T PCI Card £64.44
 Hauppauge WinTV-Nova-T Freeview receiver PCI (909) £62.06 
 Vision + PCI TV Tuner - HDTV Compatible + Remote £46.06

 Do all these cards definately have suitable drivers?  

Google is your friend ;-)

 I think 
 I read somewhere that not all Nova-T's were the same.  I 
 wouldn't want to end up with an unsupported variant. Or 
 should I just go for the cheapest?  Shouldn't the outputted 
 MPEG2 stream be identical for each card?  The option to 
 receive some of the top-up-tv channels might be good too.  
 Has anybody got this working yet?

Sorry to be of no use in the answer to this but I want to know the same,
I've got my box set up working now with one pvr-350 and want to add
another
card, I'm planning to get another card (probably from scan!) and I _was_

at first thinking of a PVR-250 but that would only give me std
terrestrial[1]
so I was thinking of a DVB-T and route the set-top box via the video in
on
the pvr-350.

I'm going to do some googling but if you do find out which one
looks best please let me know!

 Since my MB only supports UDMA-2, I'm also thinking of buying 
 an addon PCI ATA card. 

You should actually be OK, what is more likely to be a problem is that 
the bandwidth over the bus could cause issues.

 I'm guessing I won't need any soundcards in a DVB only system?

Depends, if you don't want to play anything from the backend then no.

Druid 

[1] and cable through the set-top box/video in

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[mythtv-users] Edit commercial cutlist...

2005-01-12 Thread Rob Greene
I'm either confused or I'm locking up the front-end when trying to
bring up the edit mode for a show I've recorded.

1) I've tried using the i button on the remote while watching the
recorded show (maps to i on the keyboard, I believe). From there, I
get an on-screen menu and choose Edit Mode. Nothing happens - the
live picture freezes and that's that. I figured that a P3 500MHz may
need a little bit of time - so I gave it 5 or 10 minutes, but it
doesn't appear to be coming back.

I've also tried hitting e on the keyboard with the same effect.

Ultimately, I just hit Ctrl+Shift+Backspace to restart X.

2) This leads to an observation - I think Myth needs to reinitialize
the video screen when it starts. If I've had the problem described
above and I restart X (which logs in the myth user and launches the
frontend), the frontend comes up fine, but the background behind the
text and images are pulled from the frozen frame of whatever TV show I
was working with. The text isn't present (or isn't readable, or...). 
However, I do note that if I just go into Live TV and then exit, the
background gets reset and everything is hunky-dory again.

Any ideas (pointers to the wiki etc) are appreciated!

Thanks!
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[mythtv-users] Dual tuners - how does the sound work?

2005-01-12 Thread Phill Edwards
I currently have a bt878 chip tuner card and I want to buy a 2nd one
but I don't understand how the sound recording can possibly work on
this setup. From what I understand at the moment, the sound gets
recorded by connecting a lead from the sound out from the tuner card
to the line in of the sound card (which in my case is  on-board). If
that lead is not connected in this way then I'll get a video recording
with no sound. Am I right so far?

So, when I put a 2nd tuner card in how do I connect the sound out to
the line in of the sound card when it's already been taken up by the
1st tuner card? Is this when you need btaudio? I believe not all tuner
cards support btaudio. How can I determine which do and which don't -
from what I've seen it seems to just be some Hauppauges and WinTV
Radio?

Are my options as follows:

1) Buy a sound card when I buy a tuner card, OR
2) Buy a tuner card that supports btaudio (very limited choice and
expensive, I believe)

Lastly, my mobo has a S/PDIF connector which I currently have no idea
how to use but I do want to get Dolby digital working in the future
for DVD playback. Does this have any bearing on what sort of sound
card I should buy if I go for option 2?

Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] Edit commercial cutlist...

2005-01-12 Thread Jeff Simpson
Exact same symptoms here, on a gentoo system, 1.4ghz. I never used
edit more before so I don't know what it should do, but I figure
freezing up and ignoring keypresses isn't correct.

The weird background on the restart is very strange, usually when it
happens I can just hit watch tv and it fixes it. Except when I'm
recording something, then I just have to remember which buttons are
which to playback a recorded video to fix it.

 - Jeff

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:06:31 -0600, Rob Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm either confused or I'm locking up the front-end when trying to
 bring up the edit mode for a show I've recorded.
 
 1) I've tried using the i button on the remote while watching the
 recorded show (maps to i on the keyboard, I believe). From there, I
 get an on-screen menu and choose Edit Mode. Nothing happens - the
 live picture freezes and that's that. I figured that a P3 500MHz may
 need a little bit of time - so I gave it 5 or 10 minutes, but it
 doesn't appear to be coming back.
 
 I've also tried hitting e on the keyboard with the same effect.
 
 Ultimately, I just hit Ctrl+Shift+Backspace to restart X.
 
 2) This leads to an observation - I think Myth needs to reinitialize
 the video screen when it starts. If I've had the problem described
 above and I restart X (which logs in the myth user and launches the
 frontend), the frontend comes up fine, but the background behind the
 text and images are pulled from the frozen frame of whatever TV show I
 was working with. The text isn't present (or isn't readable, or...).
 However, I do note that if I just go into Live TV and then exit, the
 background gets reset and everything is hunky-dory again.
 
 Any ideas (pointers to the wiki etc) are appreciated!
 
 Thanks!
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-350 Remote - Hmmm!

2005-01-12 Thread Frutillar
On Wednesday 12 January 2005 03:51 pm, Maverick wrote:
 Did you setup /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc ? I have the same remote as
 you. My working settings can be found here (post #3):

 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/103207

 HTH,
 -Kenneth

I downloaded both and tried it (lird.conf and lircrc).  Now irw doesnt 
even 
work, so it seems this is a step backwards.  Other thoughts?  Is there a log 
file I can check?

Thanks!
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Re: [mythtv-users] Can Myth be all I want it to be?

2005-01-12 Thread Craig Read
Brent Olson wrote:
Ok, after doing a fair bit of research, how does the following hardware 
look?  I
already have the hdtvpc-3000.  I don't currently plan on doing cable recording,
only looking for hdtv playback and record.  I currently use a DVD player with
DVI output and a Samsung over-the-air HDTV receiver.  I am looking to have
mythtv replace these two items with one.
This must connect to my home theater setup.  The receiver has optical audio
inputs, and the projector runs 1280x720p on DVI.  It must be able to connect
and look good (especially dvd playback) on the 100 screen.  Is it software or
hardware that will make the dvd progressive output?  How is a 3:2 pulldown for
dvds configured?
http://secure.newegg.com/app/WishR.asp?ID=1181048
Comments are welcome, of course.
The only recommendation I'd make is to swap the Samsung drive for a 
Seagate drive.  Partly based on personal preference, partly based on the 
number of people I've heard recommend Seagate for reliability and quiet 
operation.

Craig...
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Re: [mythtv-users] Getting VCR Recordings Into MythTV/MythVideo

2005-01-12 Thread Da Worm
On 1/12/2005 at 1:49 AM Brad Templeton wrote:

I mean you have a video capture card in your system.  It
is probably video4linux compatbile, and if you go to the 4vl web pages
there are a number of recording programs of all stripes, some of them
with built in editors etc. for doing a manual recording to a file and
cleaning it up nice.

I have a PVR-250 and a PixelView card.  So far, the TV apps I have tried only
use the PixelView card, not the PVR (xawtv, tvtime), and neither does recording,
only playback.

If you have the pvr-250, you can actually record trivially from the
current source, which you can set with ivtvctl.

It's literally as simple as
cat /dev/video0 file.mpg

Yes, I mentioned that, but you can't watch it as it plays to see when to start
and stop recording.

Anyway, once you have your file.mpg, you can edit and transcode it
and simply copy it to your mythtv videos directory (I think it's
/var/lib/video by default but most people move it.)

That's no problem, I've got many recordings already installed into MythVideo.

Check out:

http://www.exploits.org/v4l/

For video4linux software.

I only see a couple there that look useful, but I'll be sure to try them out.  
The
big reason I was wondering if there was a Myth solution is that I'd like to 
remove
the monitor from this system going completely with TV output, and using normal
programs in the 960x540 tv screen (especially with the overscan) can be a real
pain, and it will take months to capture my tape/laser library.  I would rather 
use
the hardware MPEG on the PVR, rather than put my spare PixelView into another
box, and its in the Myth box.  Plus, some tapes I may not archive, and would 
like
to play them through Myth anyway, so I don't have to bother with changing TV
inputs (the TV remote will eventually end up in the closet somewhere) and the
cables around.

Thanks for the response.  Perhaps I'll look into building a module for this, as 
I really
need to hone up on my C coding.

Jeff.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Can Myth be all I want it to be?

2005-01-12 Thread Tyler Drake
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:54:27 -0800, Brent Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, after doing a fair bit of research, how does the following hardware look? 
  I
 already have the hdtvpc-3000.  I don't currently plan on doing cable 
 recording,
 only looking for hdtv playback and record.  I currently use a DVD player with
 DVI output and a Samsung over-the-air HDTV receiver.  I am looking to have
 mythtv replace these two items with one.
 
 This must connect to my home theater setup.  The receiver has optical audio
 inputs, and the projector runs 1280x720p on DVI.  It must be able to connect
 and look good (especially dvd playback) on the 100 screen.  Is it software or
 hardware that will make the dvd progressive output?  How is a 3:2 pulldown for
 dvds configured?
 
 http://secure.newegg.com/app/WishR.asp?ID=1181048

First, that mobo is freakin' sweet! =) Good choice on memory, Corsair
is a good brand.

My only suggestion? Swap the Samsung 160GB HD for a Maxtor
(http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-137-132depa=1
OEM  bare drive;
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-144-316depa=1
Retail drive)

 
 Comments are welcome, of course.

Good luck in your MythTV quest. We're here to help =)
--Tyler
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[mythtv-users] FC3 - Downloading kernel source

2005-01-12 Thread Drew Zerdecki
I have the 2.6.9 kernel and the kernel-2.6.9-1.724_FC3.src.rpm.  But
installing the rpm just gives me the 2.6.9 tar.  Am I to apply all the
.patch files to get to the 724 part?  Also, is there anythign special
I need to do to recompile a smp kernel?  just a setting in the
.config, or a different source?

Thanks so much for your help.

DREW
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Re: [mythtv-users] New Mac Mini

2005-01-12 Thread Marc Nicholas

 This thing looks really sweet for a frontend.  Plus, you'd
 probably have better luck with your DVI connection to your
 HDTV with it too!
 ;-)
 
 
 Maybe, yes.  That thought had crossed my mind.  I'd have to do some
 research to see how Mac's under OSX actually deal with Hi-def output in
 general.  The grass truly is greener on the wind0ze side in this
 regard

It's a display. Simple as that. Why should it be any more complex?

-marc


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[mythtv-users] Re: Re: New Mac Mini

2005-01-12 Thread Chuck Rice
At 6:46 PM -0500 1/12/05, Mike Frisch wrote:
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 03:22:59PM -0600, Steve Frank wrote:
 I will reintroduce a question I've had, what about using Firewire for
 video out on Myth? My HDTV set has firewire In, and the Mini has this
 nice firewire port.
In the past, HDTVs that had Firewire inputs were to be matched to STBs
from the same manufacturer (I think Panasonic was one of the first that
did this).  It wasn't a standard Firewire interface in the truest sense
in that it only worked with the matching STB.
Check AVSForum to confirm that this is still the case.
That sounds like a Class Action Suit waiting to happen. -Chuck-
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RE: [mythtv-users] Mythtv CVS possibly borked on amd64

2005-01-12 Thread Chris Germano
I tried the --disable--mmx but it's still doing it, even after a make clean, 
make.

mach64 mythtv # ./configure --disable-mmx
Please note that these settings only deal with libavcodec, not MythTV.
CPU  x86_64
Big Endian   no
MMX enabled  no
Vector Builtins  yes
Creating config.mak and config.h
mach64 mythtv # qmake mythtv.pro
mach64 mythtv # make
cd libs  make -f Makefile
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/chris/mythtv-16-4/mythtv/libs'
cd libavcodec  make -f Makefile
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/chris/mythtv-16-4/mythtv/libs/libavcodec'
qmake -o Makefile libavcodec.pro
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/chris/mythtv-16-4/mythtv/libs/libavcodec'
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/chris/mythtv-16-4/mythtv/libs/libavcodec'
rm -f libmythavcodec-0.16.so.0.16.0 libmythavcodec-0.16.so 
libmythavcodec-0.16.so.0 libmythavcodec-0.16.so.0.16
g++ -Wl,-rpath,/usr/qt/3/lib -shared -Wl,-soname,libmythavcodec-0.16.so.0 -o 
libmythavcodec-0.16.so.0.16.0 common.o utils.o mem.o allcodecs.o mpegvideo.o 
h263.o jrevdct.o jfdctfst.o mpegaudio.o ac3enc.o mjpeg.o audresample.o 
dsputil.o motion_est.o imgconvert.o imgresample.o msmpeg4.o mpeg12.o 
h263dec.o svq1.o rv10.o mpegaudiodec.o pcm.o simple_idct.o ratecontrol.o 
adpcm.o eval.o jfdctint.o dv.o error_resilience.o wmadec.o fft.o mdct.o 
mace.o huffyuv.o opts.o cyuv.o golomb.o h264.o raw.o indeo3.o asv1.o vp3.o 
4xm.o cabac.o ra144.o ra288.o vcr1.o cljr.o roqvideo.o dpcm.o tscc.o 
interplayvideo.o xan.orpza.o cinepak.o msrle.o msvideo1.o vqavideo.o 
idcinvideo.o adx.o rational.o faandct.o snow.o sonic.o 8bps.o parser.o smc.o 
flicvideo.o truemotion1.o vmdav.o lcl.o qtrle.o g726.o flac.o vp3dsp.o 
integer.o h261.o resample2.o h264idct.o png.o pnm.o qdrw.o qpeg.o 
rangecoder.o ulti.o xl.o postprocess.o a52dec.o bit_allocate.o bitstream.o 
downmix.o imdct.o parse.o crc.o resample.o   -L/usr/qt/3/lib 
-L/usr/X11R6/lib -lqt-mt -lXext -lX11 -lm -lpthread
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: 
common.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used 
when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
common.o: could not read symbols: Bad value
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [libmythavcodec-0.16.so.0.16.0] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/chris/mythtv-16-4/mythtv/libs/libavcodec'
make[1]: *** [sub-libavcodec] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/chris/mythtv-16-4/mythtv/libs'
make: *** [sub-libs] Error 2


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Re: [mythtv-users] commercially-produced mythboxes -- an idea

2005-01-12 Thread Ian
Maverick wrote:
We have no desire to provide software support (or deal with zap2it
   

I think you answered your own question right there. Someone who is
interested in spending $1000 to record HDTV, and who doesn't have
enough knowledge/experience to build their own Myth box, will want
service, support and a warranty. I believe that's one reason TiVo has
been successful, my mom can use it and if she has a question, they
have a number to call. MythTV isn't my mom kind of simple, just
trying to have her login to a website and sign up for zap2it would far
exceed her abilities...
Maybe I misunderstood your target market,
-Kenneth
Dude, you didn't read far enough. 

Later on he says, Then you, as knowledgeable mythtv admins can turn 
around and offer your consulting services to prospective interested 
parties to help them set up the mythbox (and will let you instruct them 
in setting up their own personal account at zap2it, and explain how the 
surveys work, etc.).

In other words, you could turn around and resell it along with your 
support.  Or sell your services and the box at cost, or do it all for 
free and they only pay for the hardware - whatever!  I think that it is 
a cool idea.

In fact, I like the idea of a reference design.  Hardware that has 
already been deemed the best combination for a mythbox packaged up along 
with the inital install and burn in.  Could offer some options such as 
multiple tuners, bigger disks, and so on...

I know that many people agonize over what hardware to get - look at all 
the questions on this list.  I know that I did and I certainly ended up 
with more work than I planned once I tried to put all mine together and 
get all drivers working together nicely.  Admittedly, I went a harder 
route with a streamlined Gentoo install (still working on it - heh).

Hell, newbies on list might opt just to pick up one of these 
preapproved setups - could link to it directly from the mythtv site if 
it is a truly altruistic offer.  At least they won't be bitten by 
unexpected problems such as a PVR-250MCE requiring patches, messing with 
lirc, and so on.  I'd buy one (assuming it looks good and specs are 
nice) if I hadn't already sunk my $1000 building my own from scratch.

Also, if they source everything at cheaper bulk prices, it would be the 
best bang for your buck.  Most of us are stuck with buying parts retail 
or reusing old hardware.

So far the only negative points I have are:
1) you're stuck with the hardware offered.
2) if you aren't using one yourself, it makes it more difficult to 
administer someone else's (recover from catastrophic disk crash, for 
example)

Ian.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Re: New Mac Mini

2005-01-12 Thread Mike Frisch
On 12-Jan-05, at 11:43 PM, Chuck Rice wrote:
At 6:46 PM -0500 1/12/05, Mike Frisch wrote:
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 03:22:59PM -0600, Steve Frank wrote:
 I will reintroduce a question I've had, what about using Firewire 
for
 video out on Myth? My HDTV set has firewire In, and the Mini has 
this
 nice firewire port.
In the past, HDTVs that had Firewire inputs were to be matched to STBs
from the same manufacturer (I think Panasonic was one of the first 
that
did this).  It wasn't a standard Firewire interface in the truest 
sense
in that it only worked with the matching STB.

Check AVSForum to confirm that this is still the case.
That sounds like a Class Action Suit waiting to happen. -Chuck-
What for?  It was obviously licenced and clearly documented as such.  
No need to be sue happy.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Getting VCR Recordings Into MythTV/MythVideo

2005-01-12 Thread Brad Templeton
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 11:12:24PM -0500, Da Worm wrote:
 It's literally as simple as
 cat /dev/video0 file.mpg
 
 Yes, I mentioned that, but you can't watch it as it plays to see when to start
 and stop recording.

Actually, you can.  Of course if you know the length you can stop recording
after a fixed amount of time, and if you only approximately know the length
you can stop recording after some maximum time and then edit it to perfection
with a non-linear mpeg2 editor -- you almost surely want to do that here.

But once you have your cat going into the file, you can actually
run mplayer on the file.mpg above, and watch it, as far behind live
as you fired up the mplayer.   If you start later you can even seek
carefully to the end. (As yet, I believe, mplayer quits when it gets
to EOF even on a growing file, so you would have to take great care
in seeking.  I don't know about xine, perhaps it will do it.)

I suppose you could also do:

ivtvctl -p 6  # sets to input 6 which is svideo in on my card

tee /dev/video0 /tmp/file.mpg | mplayer -


This will watch the capture in real time and record it to the file.

You can interrupt it when you are done recording, though you still
probably wouldn't mind cleaning it up in your non-linear editor.

I love it when the solution comes from unix philosophy over 30 years
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Re: [mythtv-users] Dual tuners - how does the sound work?

2005-01-12 Thread Robin Smith
I have no cable from my tuner card to my soundcard. The tuner card
captures the audio along with the video. The soundcard is only for
playback.


On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:15:52 +1100, Phill Edwards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I currently have a bt878 chip tuner card and I want to buy a 2nd one
 but I don't understand how the sound recording can possibly work on
 this setup. From what I understand at the moment, the sound gets
 recorded by connecting a lead from the sound out from the tuner card
 to the line in of the sound card (which in my case is  on-board). If
 that lead is not connected in this way then I'll get a video recording
 with no sound. Am I right so far?
 
 So, when I put a 2nd tuner card in how do I connect the sound out to
 the line in of the sound card when it's already been taken up by the
 1st tuner card? Is this when you need btaudio? I believe not all tuner
 cards support btaudio. How can I determine which do and which don't -
 from what I've seen it seems to just be some Hauppauges and WinTV
 Radio?
 
 Are my options as follows:
 
 1) Buy a sound card when I buy a tuner card, OR
 2) Buy a tuner card that supports btaudio (very limited choice and
 expensive, I believe)
 
 Lastly, my mobo has a S/PDIF connector which I currently have no idea
 how to use but I do want to get Dolby digital working in the future
 for DVD playback. Does this have any bearing on what sort of sound
 card I should buy if I go for option 2?
 
 Regards,
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: NTP does not seem to be updating...

2005-01-12 Thread Yan-Fa Li
nowhere wrote:
Hi!
My mythbox's clock is drifting and it seems that ntp is not updating the
clock. There are no messages whatsoever in /var/log/messages for ntp.
Service reports ntpd to be running. If I restart the service it updates
immediately and just fine and then the correct info is logged in
/var/log/messages. Just doesn't seem to be doing it automatically. 

Thanks!
Eric
Many good posts here about what the problem might be, but in my 
experience, running ntp is often overkill for many simple hosts since it 
requires time to sync, measure the drift, etc...

The simplest solution by far is to drop a script in your 
/etc/cron.hourly folder, assuming a FC system, which contains something 
like:

#/bin/sh
/usr/sbin/ntpdate -u addressofntpserver.com
This will sync your time every hour, requires absolutely no daemon to be 
running and works very well.  If you want it to sync more often, say 
every 20 minutes, add an entry to your crontab.

Yan
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[mythtv-users] Re: FC3 - Downloading kernel source

2005-01-12 Thread Drew Zerdecki
Thankd for the help.  if I have a p4 with hyperthreading, I have arch
= i386? 586? 686?  smp version?

Thanks again.  Sorry to make this a linux tutorial.

DREW
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Re: [mythtv-users] Dual tuners - how does the sound work?

2005-01-12 Thread Joe Votour
It depends on the capture card that is being used.

The PVR-x50/AverMedia M179, and other cards supported
by the ivtv driver do not require a seperate cable for
audio because the the sound is captured as part of the
MPEG-2 stream.

However, cards controlled by the bttv driver (which
are essentially frame grabbers) require some sort of
sound capture.  Some cards work with btaudio, which
generates a sound device (/dev/dspx, where x is a
number) that MythTV can read from for the sound.

Cards that don't support btaudio require a connection
to a sound card, so for every bttv card you have that
does not support btaudio, you require a sound card,
with a cable connecting the capture card to the sound
card (on the Line-In port).

It is possible to have multiple sound cards in a PC,
as long as you have enough PCI slots for them.  This
tends to be a problem for people with bttv cards,
since you wind up with two problems - bttv cards
require a lot more CPU than a PVR-x50 card, and you'll
run out of PCI slots quickly.

-- Joe

--- Robin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have no cable from my tuner card to my soundcard.
 The tuner card
 captures the audio along with the video. The
 soundcard is only for
 playback.
 
 
 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 14:15:52 +1100, Phill Edwards
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I currently have a bt878 chip tuner card and I
 want to buy a 2nd one
  but I don't understand how the sound recording can
 possibly work on
  this setup. From what I understand at the moment,
 the sound gets
  recorded by connecting a lead from the sound out
 from the tuner card
  to the line in of the sound card (which in my case
 is  on-board). If
  that lead is not connected in this way then I'll
 get a video recording
  with no sound. Am I right so far?
  
  So, when I put a 2nd tuner card in how do I
 connect the sound out to
  the line in of the sound card when it's already
 been taken up by the
  1st tuner card? Is this when you need btaudio? I
 believe not all tuner
  cards support btaudio. How can I determine which
 do and which don't -
  from what I've seen it seems to just be some
 Hauppauges and WinTV
  Radio?
  
  Are my options as follows:
  
  1) Buy a sound card when I buy a tuner card, OR
  2) Buy a tuner card that supports btaudio (very
 limited choice and
  expensive, I believe)
  
  Lastly, my mobo has a S/PDIF connector which I
 currently have no idea
  how to use but I do want to get Dolby digital
 working in the future
  for DVD playback. Does this have any bearing on
 what sort of sound
  card I should buy if I go for option 2?
  
  Regards,
  Phill
  
  
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[mythtv-users] Can't use ALSA, how the heck do I get OSS working?

2005-01-12 Thread Marty Mastera
So here's my problem:

I'm replacing my existing test Myth install (FC1, Myth 0.16) which
worked fine (both audio and video), but the menus and overall system
responsiveness were just so-so.

Installed KnoppMyth 45, everything went pretty smoothly.  I'm happier
with KnoppMyth than my previous setup in every way, except that I get
scratchy audio (Via 82xx onboard).  I played with mixer settings over
and over trying to fix it without success.  I found posts regarding the
Via 82xx saying to adjust the dxs_support module option.  I tried
1,2,3,4 as options without any resolution.

I decided to dump ALSA and go for OSS (I think that's what FC1 used
anyway (let me know if that's not true), and audio worked there...).  I
downloaded the OSS files, installed and ran the test...it produced
perfect audio.  The docs say to make sure that no other audio drivers or
modules are loading, so I checked modules, modules.conf, modutils,
etc...to make sure.

At first I didn't realize that the OSS driver wasn't loading
automatically at boot, so I was trying to run Myth without it loaded,
and it complained about /dev/dsp0 (no such device), and I wouldn't get
any audio at all...but at least it would still let me see video (albeit
silently).  Once I realized that the driver wasn't auto loading, I ran
'soundon' to load the driver (it reports good driver loading), then run
Myth.  This time Myth gives no errors, just locks up the frontend on a
black screen, still no audio (and now no video).

I know OSS is working, since the test comes out perfect...I know the
driver is loading (b/c so far, I'm doing it by hand), but Myth locks up
on a black screen when you try to view TV...I have the audio device in
Myth set to /dev/dsp0 which is the device that the successful OSS test
uses.

Any idea what I can do to get this working?

Thanks,

marty
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Re: [mythtv-users] commercially-produced mythboxes -- an idea

2005-01-12 Thread Gabe Rubin
At the price range of 1K, who is your target audience?  If I pay that
much for something tv related, I want it to work out of the box.  Who
is going to pay that much of a premium?  I think $500 might be the
price break point, esp if you are not fully functional and full
support, otherwise it is a hobbyist device...and the hobbyists are
here already ;)

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Re: [mythtv-users] commercially-produced mythboxes -- an idea

2005-01-12 Thread Brad Templeton
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 01:03:19AM -0500, Gabe Rubin wrote:
 At the price range of 1K, who is your target audience?  If I pay that
 much for something tv related, I want it to work out of the box.  Who
 is going to pay that much of a premium?  I think $500 might be the
 price break point, esp if you are not fully functional and full
 support, otherwise it is a hobbyist device...and the hobbyists are
 here already ;)

A decent HD box is pricey, but not that pricey.  However, typically
if you do it cheap you will see:

P4-3ghz plus motherboard:   $200
250gb hard drive:   $140
Cheap Case: $60
Nvidia 5200 card:   $60
PC-HDTV card:   $190(For SDTV and 2nd tuner)
WINTV-PVR-250   $130
512MB Ram:  $70
Linux  Mythtv  Priceless


Total:  850

That's doing it on the cheap, though not the cheapest.  For example,
I got the P4+MB for less at a special sale, the drives cheaper with
rebate, though I bought a more expensive case.  I got the pcHDTV in
a large bulk purchase.  It was work to get my parts as cheaply as I
did in many cases.   Chances are you want a premium low-noise case,
fancy cooling fans etc.

With the work to assemble and slightly better parts it can easily be $1000.
You could drop the wintv-250 card, or perhaps shortly get a 150 card
with the brand new drivers for just $84 (as I have done), but in reality
the pcHDTV isn't enough since it has just one RF input.  (Though it could
do digi-cable and HDTV on the same card but who wants tht?)

Of course, Mythtv and Linux have the ability to run on older hardware
you have lying around, which is part of the attraction.   I can make
a nice SDTV PVR for you by adding little more than a bigger drive
and perhaps a pvr-350 card, or a pvr-150 card and a $30 TV-out card
to your PC.   Use the pvr-150-mce and now we're talking just about $150
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Re: [mythtv-users] commercially-produced mythboxes -- an idea

2005-01-12 Thread Chris Petersen
A decent HD box is pricey, but not that pricey.  However, typically
if you do it cheap you will see:
Yes, unfortunately, my company can't do it cheap -- no special sales, 
no rebates on parts, and since we really only deal with enterprise-grade 
stuff like RAM, that tends to cost more than people expect.  Plus, you'd 
be surprised at how easy it is to get parts below wholesale cost from 
places like newegg (due to some nifty tricks in volume purchasing), 
which we wouldn't be able to pull off unless machines were selling like 
crazy (which I don't expect them to).

We'd also run into supply issues if we started trying to push older 
hardware like my beloved asus pundit.  I need to talk with people at 
work to figure out what's going on with cpu's -- all I know is that 
intel is going to be killing off the socket 478 stuff, which leads me to 
believe that AMD will be doing the same with their equivalent line of 
athlons.  Which means no old/cheap processors.

This is all turning into something a lot more complex than I originally 
intended.  Things have been a bit hectic at work lately, so I'm going to 
put things on hold for awhile until I can sit down with someone who 
understands the supply chain and future availability of things like 
cpu's (I'm just the coder, not a sales guy).

Then there's the whole broadcast flag issue with the hdtv stuff.  I 
don't think anyone really knows what's going to happen to the linux hdtv 
market come June.

Your off-list email from earlier today has given me a lot to think about 
for the market segment, too, as well as about knopmyth (which I 
admitedly don't know much about).

Like you said, optimally, there should be an offering of different 
servers..   sd, sd+hd, hd, and frontend-only.  Not necessarily different 
machines (although it'd be sweet to be able to offer a $300-ish diskless 
 frontend-only box), since most of that can be handled through 
configuration options, but a lot of options to consider.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Edit commercial cutlist...

2005-01-12 Thread Ian Campbell
On Wed, 2005-01-12 at 21:06 -0600, Rob Greene wrote:
 I'm either confused or I'm locking up the front-end when trying to
 bring up the edit mode for a show I've recorded.

With version 0.16 and a PVR-350 I needed the following patch (from CVS)
to solve the symptoms you described.

Ian.

Index: ./libs/libmythtv/NuppelVideoPlayer.cpp
===
RCS file: /var/lib/mythcvs/mythtv/libs/libmythtv/NuppelVideoPlayer.cpp,v
retrieving revision 1.371
retrieving revision 1.372
diff -u -r1.371 -r1.372
--- ./libs/libmythtv/NuppelVideoPlayer.cpp  11 Sep 2004 06:17:15 -  
1.371
+++ ./libs/libmythtv/NuppelVideoPlayer.cpp  12 Sep 2004 18:29:57 -  
1.372
@@ -1735,6 +1735,11 @@
 killplayer = true;
 }
 
+if (rewindtime  0)
+rewindtime = 0;
+if (fftime  0)
+fftime = 0;
+
 if (paused)
 {
 if (!previously_paused)

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Re: [mythtv-users] No listings on remote MythFrontend

2005-01-12 Thread Tim Berger
I can confirm that your mail did go to the list, but probably nobody
has any idea
what might be going wrong here.  Or those who might know, missed your message.
This is a pretty high-bandwidh list.

I am new to mythtv, but I'll take a shot in the dark and guess that browse mode 
somehow pulls the guide data from the backend slightly differently. 
Make sure that
clocks on both boxes are sync'd and correct with ntpd or ntpdate. 
It's the only thing
I can think of.

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:50:25 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anybody know how to fix this or what I should look at?  Please?!?
 
 Jeff
 
 PS: Is there a reason that nobody's replying to any of my recent postings?  
 Am I doing something taboo/wrong/incorrectly to cause my messages to be 
 ignored?  Is it because I sometimes use M$ Outluuk on my PC to send messages, 
 or because of my seemingly fake email address (not fake, but real and fools 
 all the spambots so far), or perhaps something else?The reason I ask is 
 that when I  first joined the group a few months ago (~November IIRC) I sent 
 out an initial message to say hi and ask a few questions, I got several 
 helpful  informative replies.  But I haven't gotten any replies for anything 
 I've sent out since I started to build my MythTV Boxes...  It's almost like 
 my messages don't even get to the group, but they show up in my Inbox and on 
 Gossamer, so they're definitely getting there...  Very Strange...
 
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 From: Jeff Artz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org
 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 06:20:22 +
 Subject: [mythtv-users] No listings on remote MythFrontend
  
  
 Ok, I have two systems setup -- a backend running FC2 (that is also setup as 
 a MythTV Frontend) named 'mythtv-backend' at IP address 192.168.1.20, and a 
 frontend running KnoppMyth (installed to HD) named 'mythtv-lr' at address 
 192.168.1.21.  On the backend system, I can do everything perfectly.  On the 
 frontend system, I can watch Live TV and recorded programs just fine and can 
 also use the 'browse' feature while in Live TV to browse the programs on 
 other channels.  But when I pull up the Program Guide (either via Live TV or 
 via Manage Recordings/Schedule Recordings/Guide, I don't have any listings 
 on the screen.   (Strange, because the individual listings show in 'browse' 
 mode, and they are using the same database, right?) 
   
 I've checked the settings via 'mythtv-setup' (knoppMyth), and I've got it all 
 setup properly as far as I can tell -- The frontend system's 'mythtv-setup' 
 screen is configured as such: 
 IP address for mythtv-lr:  192.168.1.21 
 Port the server runs on: 6543 
 Port the server shows status on: 6544 
 Master Server IP address: 196.168.1.20 
 Port the master server runs on: 6543 
   
 I have given permission to 192.168.1.% in sql to the mythconverg database on 
 my backend system (per Jarod's Tips 'n' Tricks 
 http://www.wilsonet.com/mythtv/tips.php ) and have searched the gossamer 
 threads, google and Altavista, but still haven't come up with any soulutions 
 yet...
   
  
 I'm highly technical, but new to Linux with MythTV.  If you need more 
 detailed info, please give me detailed instructions on how to get that 
 data... I'm new to Linux, and the commands that are second nature to most of 
 you are still very new to me... 
   
 Thanks in advance for your help and input... 
   
 Jeff 
 MythTV Backend: mythtv-backend 
   Fedora Core 2 
   Athlon XP 1800+ 
   768MB DDR 266 Ram 
   Hauppauge PVR-350 
   Adaptec AHA-2940U2/U2W 
   18GB U160 10Krpm SCSI System Drive (OS/Swap) 
  
   2x 50GB U160 SCSI drives for Video 
 MythTV Frontend: mythtv-lr 
   KnoppMyth (Installed to HDD) 
   PIII 800 
   256MB Ram 
   18GB IDE Drive 
   
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