RE: [mythtv-users] [ Matrox G400 TV-Out ] RGB Cable

2005-03-03 Thread Duncan Kennington
Have a look at http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2646

I have a couple of G400s - one of which I have been meaning to put into my
Myth box.  Unfortunately now the good woman has her hands on it I'm not
allowed to touch it lest I break it!

So I can't say it works for me, but it's a pretty comprehensive guide. 

-Original Message-
From: Bernd Müller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2005 5:48 a.m.
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: [mythtv-users] [ Matrox G400 TV-Out ] RGB Cable

Hello;

I've read much about the Matrox G400 (Max) an it's exquisite tv-out in this
mailing-list. And some time ago i got such a card. But i'm not able until
yet to get the tv-out work in a satisfactory way. I've tried all the
specified ways how to connect the card (first and second head) via
composite, svhs or the selfmade RGB cable (the simple one for tthe second
head). At last i've gave up to configure X with directfb as it's seems to be
very complicated.

But now i've read in this list about an other RGB Cable with a little
circuit
inside: http://www.sput.nl/hardware/tv-x.html

Is it possible to run the G400 with this RGB Cable at the first head?

Does the G400 provide the nearby optimal pixelclock of 14.16 or maybe the
optimal clock of 14.76?

Is it possible to use the mentioned Modline 736x575i 14.16 736 760 824 904
575 580 585 625 interlace -hsync -vsync

Which X-driver i've to use? The one from matrox or the GPL one.

Will this solution provide hardware acceleration (because of using first
head of
G400) and an optimal tv-out?

Bernd (c;




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Re: [mythtv-users] is my processor to blame? (lockups, problems with FF and REW)

2005-03-03 Thread Niklas Brunlid
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 22:40:49 -0500, Aaron Aguilar [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

If you can move the sound card to another IRQ in your BIOS setup and
see if that solves your problem. Heck, share it with some other device
instead of your PVR-250. If it fixes the ff/rew lockups, please let me
know! :)
Well I moved my PVR 250 so it doesn't share an IRQ with anything else.
 That didn't fix the problem unfortunately.  I'm still having the
freezing issue on FF and REW.  Also my system seems to be crashing
more frequently for some strange reason.  I am thinking maybe it's
FC3, but am hesitant to reinstall yet again lol.  Anyways, any more
ideas and I'd appreciate the input :)
Cheers,
Aaron
This helped me with stability problems on my Pundit (SiS version) and  
PVR250+PVR350 backend+frontend system, installed using Jarod's guide:

Add to kernel= line in grub.conf:
 parport=0 noapic nolapic acpi=off
Also, I turned off USB, serial ports and parallel ports in the BIOS, as  
well as anything related to power management.

Seems to be working so far; my mythfrontend hasn't locked up when using  
ff/rew since I added that, but it may just be me being careful when  
pushing the buttons on my remote. :)

/ Niklas
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[mythtv-users] Couldn't get the color key color; frontend crashes

2005-03-03 Thread Marcel Lanz
I don't know exactly why, since yesterday my frontend crashes if I want
to watch TV

the  frontend logs:

2005-03-03 10:18:13.834 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 
5)
2005-03-03 10:18:13.842 Using protocol version 14
2005-03-03 10:18:14.239 Using protocol version 14
2005-03-03 10:18:17.240 Opening audio device '/dev/dsp'.
2005-03-03 10:18:17.241 Opening OSS audio device '/dev/dsp'.
X Error: XvBadPort 153
  Major opcode:  142
  Minor opcode:  15
  Resource id:  0x
X Error: XvBadPort 153
  Major opcode:  142
  Minor opcode:  14
  Resource id:  0x
***
* Couldn't find Xv support, falling back to non-Xv mode.
* MythTV performance will be much slower since color
* conversion and scaling will be done in software.
* Consider upgrading your video card or X server if
* you would like better performance.
2005-03-03 10:18:17.429 Couldn't get the color key color, and we need it.
You likely won't get any video.
2005-03-03 10:18:17.700 Realtime priority would require SUID as root.
2005-03-03 10:18:17.723 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
2005-03-03 10:18:17.731 Video timing method: USleep with busy wait


I have a not touched 0.17 which worked since it was released without a problem.

Any ideas why I get this error about the color key ? why it crashes ?

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[mythtv-users] Problems Editing a DVB recording

2005-03-03 Thread jonny Linux
Hi,

I've been using MythTV for about 2 months now, and I'm very impressed
with it! Well done to everyone involved!

I have a VisionPlus (Twinhan) DVB-T card in the UK, running 0.17 on
FC3 but I'm yet to find a way to edit the recordings. I assumed it
generates MPEG2 files. So I discovered a program called avidemux2
which can read and write to MPEG2 files. I have a dual boot system of
FC3 and Windows 2000. I made some mpg recordings on Windows and
avidemux2 edited them really well, with the sound in sync too. I then
got a nuv file made by MythTV and tried to open it in avidemux2.
avidemux2 says Problem opening that file!, and prints unrecognized
file detected... on the terminal window. I tried renaming it to an
mpg and I have the same problem.

I've tried using nuvexport, but that takes about 5x longer than real
time, and I thought if the files are really just mpg2, it shouldn't
need transcoding anyway. I'd really like to use the MPEG2-MPEG2 cut
option on nuvexport, but as that automates avidemux2 that fails too!

Can anyone help me please?

Thanks,

Jonny
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Re: [mythtv-users] FC3, lirc and irman

2005-03-03 Thread MB
Thanks from me too. These posts help me get lirc up and running with the 
irman and the radioshack 15-2116 remote.

hondaman wrote:
Thanks Andy, Jerod and Jeff.  That will give me enough information to 
beat my head against for a while :)

Jeff Wormsley wrote:
hondaman wrote:
I got my irman in the mail today, and have had no luck getting it to 
do anything.  I have this in my modprobe.conf (as per Jarod's guide)

options lirc_serial irq=3 io=0x2f8
install lirc_serial /bin/setserial /dev/ttyS1 uart none ;\
   /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install lirc_serial
When I do lsmod, i dont see any lirc drivers listed.  If I do depmod 
-a, still nothing.  If I do modprobe lirc_serial, then I get
Module  Size  Used by
lirc_serial11424  0
lirc_dev   11148  1 lirc_serial

lircd then starts ok.  When I run irw, however, I get no response 
from my remote.  I am using the pvr-250 remote (grey top, black 
bottom, with the red,green,yellow, and blue buttons along the 
bottom) with the corresponding lircd.conf.  I imagine Im doing a 
hundred things wrong.  Could someone please offer some advice?  I'm 
seriously stuck.

A few things to look for:
1. You don't need anything in modprobe.conf
2. Edit /etc/init.d/lircd and change the daemon line to read as follows:
daemon lircd --driver=irman --device=/dev/ttyS0
(Change ttyS0 to ttyS1 if you are on COM2)
3. Make sure you have the right lircd.conf file.  If IRW shows no 
button names, chances are you have the wrong one (or the wrong serial 
port selected).

HTH,
Jeff.
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[mythtv-users] Slightly OT: MythTV as Senior Project?

2005-03-03 Thread Louie Ilievski
Hi everyone.  I have been an avid MythTV user for over 6 months now and
I love it.  I also have wanted to get involved in some development for
it.  My friend and I are seniors at the University of California,
Riverside, and we are trying to find a fun project we can work on for
our senior project.  However, this is supposed to be a compilers
class, but our professor is open to ideas for our project, as long as it
is somewhat compiler related.  More specifically, I imagine he is going
to want to see some scanning and parsing going on in our code at the
very minimum.  He definitely considers web pages compiler related, so it
seems he's pretty lenient, and doesn't want us to strictly re-write gcc  :-)
We are looking for potential ideas we can propose to him for a project.
If we can get him to approve something related to MythTV, we would be
very excited.  Do any of you have any ideas for features we could
implement that would require some compiler related code?
I know this is being somewhat worked on, but I just thought of the
possibility of getting VBI working with MythTV for the PVR350 and 250
(or I guess ivtv in general).  I believe the VBI code is actually
working in the  ivtv driver, but just not in MythTV yet.  Am I correct?
I just remembered that an experimental patch just went in on March 1 so
this idea may be scrapped.
Anyhow, any and all ideas would be greatly appreciated.  If we can pull
this one off then we would be able to code for something we're actually
interested in, while at the same time helping out the project.  And of
course, we could both possibly learn a thing or two from the plentiful
criticism shot out by Isaac and the other devs.  :-)
Thanks,
Louie Ilievski



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Re: [mythtv-users] Weird audio problem

2005-03-03 Thread Phill Edwards
 I have a strange problem.  Whenever I restart mythbackend there's no sound
 in live TV or in any recordings.
 
 I've discovered that if I just restart the backend and leave it, any new
 recordings will not have any sound.  If I watch live TV there will not be
 any sound either.
 
 The only way around this has been to restart the backend, go to a frontend
 client, go to live TV and change the channel.  Once I change a channel,
 everything works like it should from that point on.
 
 Anyone have any ideas?  I don't even know where to start looking

Soudns like the sound modules in modprobe.conf/modules.conf aren't
getting automatically loaded. You could explicitly load them using
some modprobe commands in rc.local.

Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] 2 questions - Running out of disk space and transcoding

2005-03-03 Thread Phill Edwards
 Running Myth .17
 Athlon xp2200
 512mb of ram
 Hauppauge v4l card
 40gb hard drive
 nvidia gforce 4
 
 1. I keep running out of disk space and am unable to record anything
 new. Even if i delete ALL recordings, I am still out of space. I must
 manually delete several .nuv files from my drive. Once deleted, I must
 stop and start mythbackend in order for myth to see the free space. I
 have searched the threads and see several discussions about this issue
 but no fixes that I can understand. I am not a coder and only a Linux
 beginner.
 
 Since i have a 40gb drive i am repeating this process several times a week.
 
 anyone have a fix that a newbie could perform?

That's odd. The thread called Mythbackend keeping files open, disk
space not being freed implies that this was fixed in CVS in 0.16 so
should be fixed in your 0.17 version. This is the exact problem you're
talking about.

Maybe a workaround would be to check if any important backend progs
are running and if not do a restart via a regular cron job. Messy but
may help as a stop-gap. You could do something like, which I borrowed
from someone else to do a pre-shutdown check:

!/bin/sh
COMMFLAG=`ps -e | grep mythcommflag | grep -v grep | wc -l | awk '{print $1}'`
TRANSCODE=`ps -e | grep mythtranscode | grep -v grep | wc -l | awk '{print $1}'`
TV_GRAB=`ps -e | grep tv_grab_au.sh | grep -v grep | wc -l | awk '{print $1}'`

if [ $COMMFLAG -eq 0 ]  [ $TRANSCODE -eq 0 ]  [ $TV_GRAB -eq 0 ]
then
   service mythbackend restart
   exit 0
else
   echo `date +%F\ \%T` Something's running, restart disallowed
 /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
   exit 1
fi


BIG WARNING - this doesn't check if something's recording at the time
so you'll have to figure out how to check for that yourself. I think
someone may have posted something to this list in the last few days
that uses fuser and /dev/video (from my memory) to see if something's
recording.

Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] Remote Options.

2005-03-03 Thread Phill Edwards
 I'm looking for IR options.
 
 I know you get one with the PVR-250/350s and I could
 build one I suppose, but I was wondering does anyone
 have any experience using a commercially build IR
 receiver, and if so...
 
 Who makes it, and what model is it?
 
 Thanks in advance.

I bought a packard Bell remote on eBay for not much at all and it has
a serial port IR receiver and a pretty decent remote, tho you could
use a different remote if you have one. The receiver works very well
and was easy to set up - just lirc_serial module. I think there's a
lot of these on eBay - eg
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=170item=5171655028rd=1ssPageName=WDVW

Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] Audio out of Sync with Video.

2005-03-03 Thread Phill Edwards
 A little read up tells me that I do not need to route the external
 wire. Does anyone know how to enable the TV Tuner sound card .

There's a btaudio HOWTO at http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/BtaudioHowTo
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Re: [mythtv-users] bug on visible flag during channel browse

2005-03-03 Thread Phill Edwards
 1) The visible flag correctly hides the channel from the channel guide but
 does not hide it from the channels that show up when you are watching live
 TV and you are in browse mode.

If you don't want this channel you can delete it from mythweb. 
Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] No automatic Commercial Flagging DVB-T AC3 in Aus

2005-03-03 Thread Phill Edwards
 I turned automatic commercial flagging on after upgrading to 0.17 and
 it didn't flag commercials.  It turns out you have to change this
 setting in each recording schedule individually.  I guess the global
 setting just changes what the default will be when you create a new
 recording schedule.

Oooh - I didn't know that. So what does the Commercial Free flag get
used for in Channel Editor now? I quite liked having it in set and
forget mode, but now it's extra presses when seting up a recording.
That's not good WAF you know!

Regards,
Phill
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RE: [mythtv-users] MythTV on Xbox - praise

2005-03-03 Thread William
 Well, we installed according to the instructions on bltblk 
 and it was beautiful. It pulled down MythTV v0.17 like a 
 champ (looks like it's hosted at RIT.. Yeah Rochester!). I 

Hey Brian,

Good to know there are fellow rochesterians on the list. So here is a hello
from the sleepy town of Honeoye.

Cheers,
Bill


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Re: [mythtv-users] No automatic Commercial Flagging DVB-T AC3 in Aus

2005-03-03 Thread David Whyte
No, I think the issue is that all the old recordings that have been
scheduled will not be updated with the newly set flag.  If, when you
scheduled them, you didn't have the flag set to scan for commercials,
you need to go back to them and update them.  All new ones will be set
as per the flag.

Dave - probably sticking his nose into the wrong end of the
conversation and confusing the hell out of everyone :(


On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 23:15:36 +1100, Phill Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I turned automatic commercial flagging on after upgrading to 0.17 and
  it didn't flag commercials.  It turns out you have to change this
  setting in each recording schedule individually.  I guess the global
  setting just changes what the default will be when you create a new
  recording schedule.
 
 Oooh - I didn't know that. So what does the Commercial Free flag get
 used for in Channel Editor now? I quite liked having it in set and
 forget mode, but now it's extra presses when seting up a recording.
 That's not good WAF you know!
 
 Regards,
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RE: [mythtv-users] is my processor to blame? (lockups, problems with FF and REW)

2005-03-03 Thread William
 First off thanks so much to this list and to Jared for 
 helping me set up a working mythtv box.  My setup:
 
 AMD Duron 650Mhz
 384mb RAM
 Samsung 160GB HDD
 FX5200
 Hauppauge PVR250
 FC3 2.6.10kernel
 

This may not be what you wanted to hear but I was having loads of problems
keeping my system running under FC3. Devices would just disappear. Lockups
and other problems like ff/rew would crash my frontend. Also could not get
my other services like dovecot and fetchmail to work reliably. I ended up
wiping and reinstalling FC2. Since then the only problem I am having is that
lircd does not want to start from sysinit. That was easily fixed by an entry
in rc.local to reprobe and start lirc before starting the backend. Since
that fix it has run for about a week without problems.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Commercial Skip

2005-03-03 Thread James Armstrong

While I'm writing, I have a wishlist request:  it'd be nice to be able
to have the automatic skipping start 1 or 2 seconds after the
beginning of the commercial (the number should be configurable and
could default to zero, or course).  The reason is that sometimes the
skips are so perfect that I can't tell whether I missed any of the
show.
How about a configurable feature for Commercial flagging that will not 
save any 'supposed' commercials over xx minutes. I have been having good 
luck with commercial flagging lately but there is an occasional 
commercial that is flagged and is over 5 or 6 minutes and is bogus. I 
think most of my commercials are only a few minutes long so ignoring 
ones longer than that would cut out some bad commercial flagging.

- James
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Re: [mythtv-users] Commercial Skip

2005-03-03 Thread David George
On 3/3/2005 8:56 AM, James Armstrong wrote:
How about a configurable feature for Commercial flagging that will not 
save any 'supposed' commercials over xx minutes. I have been having 
good luck with commercial flagging lately but there is an occasional 
commercial that is flagged and is over 5 or 6 minutes and is bogus. I 
think most of my commercials are only a few minutes long so ignoring 
ones longer than that would cut out some bad commercial flagging.
And if the total commercial break is under 20 seconds or so.  Should 
help with all those Alias non-breaks when they go to black a lot.

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Re: [mythtv-users] gentoo cvs ebuild

2005-03-03 Thread Jeff Simpson
I tried re-emerging yesterday:

emerge mythtv-cvs mythweather-cvs

mythtv compiled and worked, mythweather borked out with the same error.

Anything else I can try?

On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:28:11 +, Simon Kenyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 02 March 2005 15:26, Jeff Simpson wrote:
  I can't seem to get them working on my system. is the ebuild for
  mythweather mythweather-cvs? It should be a live cvs update and
  compile (so every time I try it it would be the most recent cvs copy),
  but it fails every time on:
 
  weather.cpp:484: error: `MSqlQuery' undeclared (first use this function)
 
  Ideas?
 did you emerge mythtv-cvs before you did emerge mythweather-cvs
 
 maybe it is overkill but i have a shell script which does:
 
 emerge mythtv-cvs mythbrowser-cvs mythdvd-cvs mythgallery-cvs mythgame-cvs
 mythmusic-cvs mythnews-cvs mythphone-cvs mythvideo-cvs mythweather-cvs
 mythweb-cvs nuvexport-cvs
 
 that way i'm sure that they are all in sync
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Re: [mythtv-users] Commercial Skip

2005-03-03 Thread Henrik Nielsen
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:56:34 -0500, James Armstrong
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 While I'm writing, I have a wishlist request:  it'd be nice to be able
 to have the automatic skipping start 1 or 2 seconds after the
 beginning of the commercial (the number should be configurable and
 could default to zero, or course).  The reason is that sometimes the
 skips are so perfect that I can't tell whether I missed any of the
 show.
 
 How about a configurable feature for Commercial flagging that will not
 save any 'supposed' commercials over xx minutes. I have been having good
 luck with commercial flagging lately but there is an occasional
 commercial that is flagged and is over 5 or 6 minutes and is bogus. I
 think most of my commercials are only a few minutes long so ignoring
 ones longer than that would cut out some bad commercial flagging.
 
 - James
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Also, a lower limit for commercial lengths would be nice. In denmark
we have few but long blocks. Most are between 4 and 8 minutes.

I am starting to get some in-show detections that are 1-2 minutes
long that could be avoided by a minimum length check.

/henrik
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Re: [mythtv-users] parts list

2005-03-03 Thread Nicholas McCoy
SP1614N is the drive I've got too.  Its unbelievably quite.  I've
heard some complaints about vibrational noise, but I don't get that. 
I think it has to do with my 8 year old steel case.  For a while I
unpluged my CPU fan (500 Mhz P3) and the whole system was inaudible. 
That configuration wasn't compatible with mythcommflag though.


On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 01:37:28 -0500, Maverick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I don't know how large of hard drives you can get, but a laptop hard
  drive is typically 5400 rpm, and quiet as a mouse, and almost no heat
  output. You can hook them up with a $2 adapter to a normal computer.
 
 I checked into laptop hard drives, ref:
 
 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/107401?#107401
 
 And basically found out 2.5 drives are uselessly expensive. I gave a
 Samsung drive a try, based on a recommendation of silentpcreview.com
 (I think). I got a the SP1614N 8MB and it's VERY quiet. In fact, it's
 so quiet that I can now here the CPU fan over the HD, no whine or
 noise normally associated with hard drives. It's hard to tell it's
 spinning.
 
 ATA133: 
 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-152-014depa=1
 
 SATA:
 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-152-015depa=1
 
 As far as I'm concerned, if you're looking for quiet, this is the way
 to go. Not available bigger than 160gb though :(
 
 -Kenneth
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] parts list

2005-03-03 Thread Dan wolf
I own 2 seagates currently, and in my history with comptuers Seagates
have never failed me.


On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 15:30:14 -0800, Bill Jackson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Probably less disk than you need.   You can only get so many disks in
  a box (not just because of slots, but because of power supply and
  controllers) so I am loathe to buy below 200gb these days, even though
  it is slightly more expensive than the 160gb sweet spot.
  
   Yeah, I can put up to 3 drives in that case which will certainly be enough
   for me until I build a backend and put it in the basement.
  
  Consider looking for 5400 rpm drive instead of 7200 if you can get a
  good price.   Less power, less heat, less noise, in theory more
  reliable.
  
   Okay, I'll consider that for my next drives. I got this one cheap on the
   recent Office Depot Maxtor rebate.
 
 In case you didn't notice it, Fry's has 200GB Seagate's on sale this week:
 
 http://shop2.outpost.com/product/4008252
 
 I can't speak to the power/noise/performance for these.
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Slightly OT: MythTV as Senior Project?

2005-03-03 Thread Nicholas McCoy
Check this out for a list of ideas:
http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/UserWishList

Personnally I want to see something like MythAlarm, but I don't really
see where parsing can come into it (unless you did an overly complex
implementation.)

On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 03:03:21 -0800, Louie Ilievski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi everyone.  I have been an avid MythTV user for over 6 months now and
 I love it.  I also have wanted to get involved in some development for
 it.  My friend and I are seniors at the University of California,
 Riverside, and we are trying to find a fun project we can work on for
 our senior project.  However, this is supposed to be a compilers
 class, but our professor is open to ideas for our project, as long as it
 is somewhat compiler related.  More specifically, I imagine he is going
 to want to see some scanning and parsing going on in our code at the
 very minimum.  He definitely considers web pages compiler related, so it
 seems he's pretty lenient, and doesn't want us to strictly re-write gcc  :-)
 
 We are looking for potential ideas we can propose to him for a project.
 If we can get him to approve something related to MythTV, we would be
 very excited.  Do any of you have any ideas for features we could
 implement that would require some compiler related code?
 
 I know this is being somewhat worked on, but I just thought of the
 possibility of getting VBI working with MythTV for the PVR350 and 250
 (or I guess ivtv in general).  I believe the VBI code is actually
 working in the  ivtv driver, but just not in MythTV yet.  Am I correct?
 I just remembered that an experimental patch just went in on March 1 so
 this idea may be scrapped.
 
 Anyhow, any and all ideas would be greatly appreciated.  If we can pull
 this one off then we would be able to code for something we're actually
 interested in, while at the same time helping out the project.  And of
 course, we could both possibly learn a thing or two from the plentiful
 criticism shot out by Isaac and the other devs.  :-)
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Slightly OT: MythTV as Senior Project?

2005-03-03 Thread PAUL WILLIAMSON
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/03/05 6:03 AM 
snip
Anyhow, any and all ideas would be greatly appreciated.  If we can 
pull this one off then we would be able to code for something we're 
actually interested in, while at the same time helping out the
project.  
And of course, we could both possibly learn a thing or two from the 
plentiful criticism shot out by Isaac and the other devs.  :-)

Thanks,

Louie Ilievski

How about a modeline generator?  People are always aksing 
for ways to come up with the perfect modeline.  I often see the 
control strip in windows mentioned, but since Myth only does 
linux, something equivalent so I didn't have to remove my 
card from the current machine, load it into a windows 
machine I might have lying around, run the program, generate 
the modelines, take them down, take the card out, put it back 
into the myth box, then try out all the modelines supported.

That would be huge!

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Re: [mythtv-users] Help with pcHDTV-2000

2005-03-03 Thread mythtv
Quoting Brandon Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 09:04:32AM -0800, Nathan Whittacre wrote:
  I actually followed those steps pretty closely.  That's how I got the 
  video working.  US-broadcast is the frequency table, and only the HD 
  channels are selected in Zap2It.  I'm not sure what it is.
  
  Nathan
 
 What if you try to record a show? Does that work?
 
 --Brandon
 

Recording does work now.  I had to remove a few channels that don't have good 
signal.  Now I am having trouble with changing channels.  It locks up the 
frontend on channel change. Any ideas?
Thanks!  --Nathan
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Re: [mythtv-users] Slightly OT: MythTV as Senior Project?

2005-03-03 Thread Nicholas McCoy
Maybe he'll do that for his thesis!


On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:25:31 -0600, Michael J. Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How about something that can be used to parse through all of the assorted
 log files when something goes wrong and tell you how to fix whatever
 is broken.  :-)
 
 PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/03/05 6:03 AM 
 
 
 snip
 
 
 Anyhow, any and all ideas would be greatly appreciated.  If we can
 pull this one off then we would be able to code for something we're
 actually interested in, while at the same time helping out the
 
 
 project.
 
 
 And of course, we could both possibly learn a thing or two from the
 plentiful criticism shot out by Isaac and the other devs.  :-)
 
 Thanks,
 
 Louie Ilievski
 
 
 
 How about a modeline generator?  People are always aksing
 for ways to come up with the perfect modeline.  I often see the
 control strip in windows mentioned, but since Myth only does
 linux, something equivalent so I didn't have to remove my
 card from the current machine, load it into a windows
 machine I might have lying around, run the program, generate
 the modelines, take them down, take the card out, put it back
 into the myth box, then try out all the modelines supported.
 
 That would be huge!
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] [OT] 1080i

2005-03-03 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 18:00, Josh Burks wrote:
 
 I hope Leadtek has improved the quality of fans they put on their
 cards. We have ~2 Dozen white box oem pc's that came with Leadtek
 nvidia cards. Over half of them growl, due to bearing/bushing failure.
 The noise drives my co-workers nuts. On average, the fans went south
 around 6 months old.
 
 Just an FYI...

Yeah, the fan on my Leadtek GF4MX-420 card went bad... not sure when; 
I'm sure it had something to do with the X lockups I was seeing all the 
time.  I don't think the heat was too bad unless I tried to do anything 
with OpenGL.  I finally noticed it when I rebuilt my system; not only 
was the fan not running, but the caps were going bad as well.  The card 
is in for RMA now; can't wait to get it back because the TVout blew 
away my current onboard nForce2 with the new NV18 encoder chip.  
If/when I do get it back, I may change out the fan for some passive 
cooling as a preemptive measure.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Tvtime instead of mplayer?

2005-03-03 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 19:18, Sapan Ganguly wrote:
 I also tried putting the following into mainmenu.xml under the Watch
 TV section -
 
 EXECTV tvtime -m -D %s
 
 This stopped the menu option doing anything at all.

You might need to use the full path of the tvtime executable, i.e. 
/usr/bin/tvtime.  Try running mythfrontend from a terminal window and 
see if the output messages give you any clues.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Slightly OT: MythTV as Senior Project?

2005-03-03 Thread Craig Partin
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 09:33:48 -0500, Nicholas McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Maybe he'll do that for his thesis!
 
 
 On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 08:25:31 -0600, Michael J. Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  How about something that can be used to parse through all of the assorted
  log files when something goes wrong and tell you how to fix whatever
  is broken.  :-)
 
  PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/03/05 6:03 AM 
  
  
  snip
  
  
  Anyhow, any and all ideas would be greatly appreciated.  If we can
  pull this one off then we would be able to code for something we're
  actually interested in, while at the same time helping out the
  
  
  project.
  
  
  And of course, we could both possibly learn a thing or two from the
  plentiful criticism shot out by Isaac and the other devs.  :-)
  
  Thanks,
  
  Louie Ilievski
  
  
  
  How about a modeline generator?  People are always aksing
  for ways to come up with the perfect modeline.  I often see the
  control strip in windows mentioned, but since Myth only does
  linux, something equivalent so I didn't have to remove my
  card from the current machine, load it into a windows
  machine I might have lying around, run the program, generate
  the modelines, take them down, take the card out, put it back
  into the myth box, then try out all the modelines supported.
  
  That would be huge!
  
  Paul
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [mythtv-users] Audio out of Sync with Video.

2005-03-03 Thread Matt Vollmar
Phill Edwards wrote:
A little read up tells me that I do not need to route the external
wire. Does anyone know how to enable the TV Tuner sound card .
   

There's a btaudio HOWTO at http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/BtaudioHowTo
 


I use btaudio with great success.  I have an ATI TV Wonder card, which 
is one of the few where btaudio works correctly (supposedly).  You MUST 
set audio capture to 32000 Hz, or you will get some serious 
chipmunking.  Also, I had to fiddle with my modprobe.conf to make sure 
btaudio was loaded AFTER my soundcard so that /dev/dsp was my soundcard 
and /dev/dsp1 was btaudio.  Works like a charm and makes me happy not to 
have to route the external cable.

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[mythtv-users] Bob and artifacts

2005-03-03 Thread John Kuhn
I'm a recent convert from the pvr-350 tv-out to a new nvidia 6200 
tv-out.  while i think the tv-out quality of nvidia is on par with the 
350 the tv playback using it isnt.  By turning on Bob deinterlacing the 
picture is much more comparable to the 350.  my problem now is that when 
i fast forward or some times in the middle of watching a recording, I'll 
get artifacts (big blocks and skipping audio to match) is this a 
normal side effect from using bob? is there a way to reduce this?  I 
currently have audio buffering on and it doesnt seem to help that.

any help would be appreciated.
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Re: [mythtv-users] parts list

2005-03-03 Thread Ken Mink
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 01:37:28 -0500, Maverick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
 
 And basically found out 2.5 drives are uselessly expensive. I gave a
 Samsung drive a try, based on a recommendation of silentpcreview.com
 (I think). I got a the SP1614N 8MB and it's VERY quiet. In fact, it's
 so quiet that I can now here the CPU fan over the HD, no whine or
 noise normally associated with hard drives. It's hard to tell it's
 spinning.

+1 on the Samsung SP1614N

I went with one of these drives. The first time I fired the machine
up, I thought the drive was DOA as it was silent. There is no whine
from rotation and head movement is the quietest I've even heard. It's
quieter than all the 2.5 drives I've used.

Performance numbers are about average for 7200rpm drives.

Ken

 
 ATA133: 
 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-152-014depa=1
 
 SATA:
 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=22-152-015depa=1
 
 As far as I'm concerned, if you're looking for quiet, this is the way
 to go. Not available bigger than 160gb though :(
 
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[mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Maverick
Thought some of you all might want to read...

http://www.sfbg.com/39/22/cover_fcc.html
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Re: [mythtv-users] parts list

2005-03-03 Thread Maverick
 +1 on the Samsung SP1614N
 
 I went with one of these drives. The first time I fired the machine
 up, I thought the drive was DOA as it was silent. There is no whine
 from rotation and head movement is the quietest I've even heard. It's
 quieter than all the 2.5 drives I've used.

Haha, same here, I was like, Hmm, it shows up in the BIOS on boot,
but it doesn't sound like it's on!! I'm so used to those big loud
Maxtor's that I was completely aww struck a drive could be so quiet
and actually work.

-Kenneth
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Re: [mythtv-users] Bob and artifacts

2005-03-03 Thread Will Dormann
John Kuhn wrote:
I'm a recent convert from the pvr-350 tv-out to a new nvidia 6200 
tv-out.  while i think the tv-out quality of nvidia is on par with the 
350 the tv playback using it isnt.  By turning on Bob deinterlacing the 
picture is much more comparable to the 350.  my problem now is that when 
i fast forward or some times in the middle of watching a recording, I'll 
get artifacts (big blocks and skipping audio to match) is this a 
normal side effect from using bob? is there a way to reduce this?  I 
currently have audio buffering on and it doesnt seem to help that.

I think I read somewhere that enabling the option to seek to exact frame 
(Under playback settings) might help with this?   It's worth a shot.

Just out of curiosity, how is the picture resolution look with your 
system set to Bob?   I like the smoothness of motion, but there's a 
distinct hit in the picture resolution for me.   (Which I believe is an 
inherent problem with the Bob technique itself?)

-WD
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Re: [mythtv-users] Bob and artifacts

2005-03-03 Thread John Kuhn


I think I read somewhere that enabling the option to seek to exact 
frame (Under playback settings) might help with this?   It's worth a 
shot.

Just out of curiosity, how is the picture resolution look with your 
system set to Bob?   I like the smoothness of motion, but there's a 
distinct hit in the picture resolution for me.   (Which I believe is 
an inherent problem with the Bob technique itself?)

it seems to be the best of the bunch for me.. picture quality seems as 
good as the source (which isnt that great) what looks even better is 
using bob with xvmc.. but that's a trick i cant seem to pull off yet.. 
xvmc causes lockups and strange issues when the osd is displayed

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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Torrentocracy Patch against Mythtv-cvs

2005-03-03 Thread Simon Kenyon
On Thursday 03 March 2005 07:14, Maverick wrote:
  how about sharing the locations of the commercials?
 
  would need a way of accurately setting time - or a hash of the frames
  a bit like cddb - somebody does an accurate commerical cut and then sends
  it to a central repository
 
  now that would be cool

 You must be on the same wave length of me and my friends. We where
 recently talking about this functionality, so only the first person
 mark commercials (manual, ie, not auto flagged) and submit their
 locations to the network. Then everyone else has perfectly commercial
 free viewing. For any time that show ever airs, it's likely to be the
 same too.

 THE MAN would definitely dislike this idea, and IANAL, but I certainly
 can't seeing it being illegal. There's no obligation to watching
 commercials or using any sort of technology to skip them, as far as I
 know.

that sort of makes it worth doing - doesn't it :-)

 Issac already expressed he doesn't want any technology that's central
 server centric (ala Napster was), at least that's the way I understood
 his post about that. Maybe I misunderstood.

 -Kenneth

we use freedb, imdb and amazon already - so the point is moot
all you would need is:

channel, date and time (though additional info like program title might help)
what would be returned would be a set of cut point
you would probably need to be able to slide them around as a group to cater 
for time differences
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Re: [mythtv-users] Slightly OT: MythTV as Senior Project?

2005-03-03 Thread Robert Denier
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 09:43 -0500, Craig Partin wrote:

[snip]
 
 If its going to figure out what's wrong and tell you how to fix it,
 then it might as well just fix it itself right?

Its usually not that simple.  A tool like that ultimately can
propose possible solutions to a problem, and give you the option
of implementing those solutions, but there are times when the
possible solutions are useless and its good for the software to
at give the user enough information that he or she has the chance
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Re: [mythtv-users] Bob and artifacts

2005-03-03 Thread Will Dormann
John Kuhn wrote:

it seems to be the best of the bunch for me.. picture quality seems as 
good as the source (which isnt that great) what looks even better is 
using bob with xvmc.. but that's a trick i cant seem to pull off yet.. 
xvmc causes lockups and strange issues when the osd is displayed
Hm, maybe I'll give it another shot sometime.
What version of the Nvidia drivers are you using?
Any special options?
What resolution?   (I'm in 640x480   NTSC land)
My input video is digital cable, and the picture goes to my (non-HD) TV 
via sVideo.   So maybe with my particular setup I can more easily see 
the resolution loss when using bob?   (with or without xvmc)

Thanks
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Re: [mythtv-users] Slightly OT: MythTV as Senior Project?

2005-03-03 Thread Craig Partin
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 09:12:03 -0600, Robert Denier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 09:43 -0500, Craig Partin wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
  If its going to figure out what's wrong and tell you how to fix it,
  then it might as well just fix it itself right?
 
 Its usually not that simple.  A tool like that ultimately can
 propose possible solutions to a problem, and give you the option
 of implementing those solutions, but there are times when the
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 at give the user enough information that he or she has the chance
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Torrentocracy Patch against Mythtv-cvs

2005-03-03 Thread Kevin Kuphal
Simon Kenyon wrote:
we use freedb, imdb and amazon already - so the point is moot
all you would need is:
 

None of those are hosted, operated, or under the control of anyone 
related to MythTV which was the point being made. 

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Re: [mythtv-users] Asus S-pressio

2005-03-03 Thread Simon Kenyon
On Thursday 03 March 2005 06:29, David Bennett wrote:
 I seem to be slowly settling on a smaller case and my local
 electronics store is pushing the Asus S-presso. Does anyone have any
 opinions? Will this have troubles with Linux? (Thinking of running
 Gentoo but am open to anything really!) Is MythTV going to be ok with
 this?

how about http://www.hipergroup.com/mediaspec.htm
not used it - but it looks nice
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 09:58:37AM -0500, Maverick wrote:
 Thought some of you all might want to read...
 
 http://www.sfbg.com/39/22/cover_fcc.html

Oh.  The writer is a policy analyst for EFF.  No *wonder* the piece is
so good.  :-)

Well, I blogged it, and posted it on mythtv.info; let's hope it gets
some traction in the media.  Thanks for the pointer.

Cheers,
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Re: [mythtv-users] Slightly OT: MythTV as Senior Project?

2005-03-03 Thread Michael J. Lynch
Sure...it could use AI to make itself better and better at interpreting the
logs and telling the user how to fix the problem.  Once it got to certain
proficientcy level it could just fix the problem itself by making changes
to the system.  If the problem couldn't be fixed via software fixes and/or
configuration fixes, it could just design new hardware, have it built at
an automated factory..   :-)
Craig Partin wrote:
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 09:12:03 -0600, Robert Denier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 09:43 -0500, Craig Partin wrote:
[snip]
   

If its going to figure out what's wrong and tell you how to fix it,
then it might as well just fix it itself right?
 

Its usually not that simple.  A tool like that ultimately can
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[mythtv-users] MythTV frontend for Mac OS X testimony requests

2005-03-03 Thread Valéry Marchive
Hello everyone,
I'm a french independent journalist preparing an investigation on the 
Mac mini as a Media Center projects for the french magazine Univers Mac. 
I'd like to get testimonies of MythTV frontend for Mac OS X users. Here 
are my preliminary questions :
- What made you  when did you decided to use your Mac as a MythTV 
frontend ?
- What your software and hardware configuration (including remote) ?
- What problems did you encounter ?
- Does it finally meets your needs ?
- Do you run it on a dayt-to-day basis ?
- What do you think about all the hyper regarding Mac mini as a Media 
Center ?
- What do you think about competing Media Center frontends projects ?
- What do you think about Apple's inaction in this field ?

Regards,
Valery Marchive
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Torrentocracy Patch against Mythtv-cvs

2005-03-03 Thread Garry Cook
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 09:32:07 -0600, Kevin Kuphal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Simon Kenyon wrote:
 
 we use freedb, imdb and amazon already - so the point is moot
 all you would need is:
 
 
 None of those are hosted, operated, or under the control of anyone
 related to MythTV which was the point being made.
 
 Kevin

This might be a pie in the sky idea, but since we are talking about
commercials and information about them being stored centrally and/or
distributed, I thought I might throw out this wish-list item.

I've had my MythTV box up for a little over a week now, and one thing
that really kills me is when I see a commercial (watching live TV of
course) for a program that is of interest. What do I do? Stop watching
and go schedule it? Write it down on a list I keep on the coffee
table? It would be great if I could just hit a button and have the
program touted in the commercial scheduled.

Naturally, this might require information about the program to be
stored in the stream, which probably does not exist. That's why this
is a true wish-list item and not a feature request/idea.

Perhaps the TWish beta that's being talked about will help with this
issue, but wow, wouldn't that just be the nutz?!?!

Garry
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Torrentocracy Patch against Mythtv-cvs

2005-03-03 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Thursday 03 March 2005 10:39, Garry Cook wrote:
 
 I've had my MythTV box up for a little over a week now, and one thing
 that really kills me is when I see a commercial (watching live TV of
 course) for a program that is of interest. What do I do? Stop watching
 and go schedule it? Write it down on a list I keep on the coffee
 table? It would be great if I could just hit a button and have the
 program touted in the commercial scheduled.
 
 Naturally, this might require information about the program to be
 stored in the stream, which probably does not exist. That's why this
 is a true wish-list item and not a feature request/idea.
 
 Perhaps the TWish beta that's being talked about will help with this
 issue, but wow, wouldn't that just be the nutz?!?!

Wouldn't even need anything so fancy -- just the ability to navigate 
around some Myth menus without exiting the recording I'm watching.  
LiveTV already does this wrt the EPG.

-JAC
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Torrentocracy Patch against Mythtv-cvs

2005-03-03 Thread Maverick
 You will find this suggestion from me in a number of threads in the
 past (I think I first suggested it to the Replay guys 5 years ago but
 they never did anything with it.)  It will happen.

 Actually, where it would come in handy is not just commercials (which
 software today can detect) but other things like pitching changes, boring
 academy awards acceptance speeches, long driving scenes to no purpose etc.

That's cool. Of course implementing this using a central server of
some sort will be easier. Is the MythTV project (users) opposed to
server centric information sharing, such as flagged commercials?

 
  Issac already expressed he doesn't want any technology that's central
  server centric (ala Napster was), at least that's the way I understood
  his post about that. Maybe I misunderstood.
 
 Actually what he said recently that sounded like this was that what he meant
 was he wants to insist that a recommendation system be centralized on his
 personal server.

Ahh, thanks for the clarification.

-Kenneth
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Torrentocracy Patch against Mythtv-cvs

2005-03-03 Thread Maverick
 we use freedb, imdb and amazon already - so the point is moot
 all you would need is:
 
 channel, date and time (though additional info like program title might help)
 what would be returned would be a set of cut point
 you would probably need to be able to slide them around as a group to cater
 for time differences

Well, if it could use a key frame signature then the time frame
adjustment could be automatic. But the key frame detection would have
to be smart enough to compensate for varying signal qualities...

-Kenneth
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Maverick
 Oh.  The writer is a policy analyst for EFF.  No *wonder* the piece is
 so good.  :-)

Yeah, but he makes that plenty clear, heh.

 Well, I blogged it, and posted it on mythtv.info; let's hope it gets
 some traction in the media.  Thanks for the pointer.

Agreed. The whole broadcast flag thing is retarded. What ever happened
to the day where you could buy a reception device without paying for
the content? Radio, OTA TV, are all a dying breed... :(

I guess their feeling is, if the commercials are paying for the
content, and people are outsmarting the commercials (albeit still
paying for content reception in many cases), then they'll just make
you watch the commercials and not allow you to record. I guess they
forgot about the millions of people that work while must see TV is
being aired and require alternatives for later viewing.

-Kenneth
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[mythtv-users] Nuvexport

2005-03-03 Thread Sigurd Nes
Updated nuvexport from cvs.
After passing through the optional choises (width, height) it just quits 
 no nothing  even with -debug and -transcode.

Any clues?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Mark L. Cukier
Currently I would NEVER consider getting a black box-- I'm not going 
to steal cable. But, once the black boxes output a signal with the 
flag filtered out... well, I'll still pay for my cable but I'll 
definitely have a black box!

:-D
Maverick wrote:
Oh.  The writer is a policy analyst for EFF.  No *wonder* the piece is
so good.  :-)
   

Yeah, but he makes that plenty clear, heh.
 

Well, I blogged it, and posted it on mythtv.info; let's hope it gets
some traction in the media.  Thanks for the pointer.
   

Agreed. The whole broadcast flag thing is retarded. What ever happened
to the day where you could buy a reception device without paying for
the content? Radio, OTA TV, are all a dying breed... :(
I guess their feeling is, if the commercials are paying for the
content, and people are outsmarting the commercials (albeit still
paying for content reception in many cases), then they'll just make
you watch the commercials and not allow you to record. I guess they
forgot about the millions of people that work while must see TV is
being aired and require alternatives for later viewing.
-Kenneth
 


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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Allan Stirling
Maverick wrote:
Thought some of you all might want to read...
http://www.sfbg.com/39/22/cover_fcc.html
The article is great - Mainly. However, opening with this quote:
'ALL I WANT  is to make a high-definition copy of Buffy the Vampire 
Slayer, save it on a DVD, and loan it to my friend, says Sarah Brydon, 
looking up from a long table covered with half-built computers.

REALLY gets my back up. Again. This is what the media companies are 
trying to (rightly) prevent with the broadcast flag. And MythTV is 
appearing to be referred to consistently in this light.

Cheers,
Allan.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Torrentocracy Patch against Mythtv-cvs

2005-03-03 Thread Shaul Kedem
Actually, where it would come in handy is not just commercials (which
software today can detect) but other things like pitching changes, boring
academy awards acceptance speeches, long driving scenes to no purpose etc.

This gives me an idea.. how about having more than one sort of flag?

- Over 18 flag
- Boring car chases flag
- Commercial flag
- ...

This way if you want to see something all you need to do is say what
sections to remove according to the flags and away you go




On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 23:53:39 -0800, Brad Templeton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 02:14:58AM -0500, Maverick wrote:
  You must be on the same wave length of me and my friends. We where
  recently talking about this functionality, so only the first person
  mark commercials (manual, ie, not auto flagged) and submit their
  locations to the network. Then everyone else has perfectly commercial
  free viewing. For any time that show ever airs, it's likely to be the
  same too.
 
 You will find this suggestion from me in a number of threads in the
 past (I think I first suggested it to the Replay guys 5 years ago but
 they never did anything with it.)  It will happen.
 
  THE MAN would definitely dislike this idea, and IANAL, but I certainly
  can't seeing it being illegal. There's no obligation to watching
  commercials or using any sort of technology to skip them, as far as I
  know.
 
 Actually, where it would come in handy is not just commercials (which
 software today can detect) but other things like pitching changes, boring
 academy awards acceptance speeches, long driving scenes to no purpose etc.
 
  Issac already expressed he doesn't want any technology that's central
  server centric (ala Napster was), at least that's the way I understood
  his post about that. Maybe I misunderstood.
 
 Actually what he said recently that sounded like this was that what he meant
 was he wants to insist that a recommendation system be centralized on his
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Garry Cook
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 16:09:36 +, Allan Stirling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Maverick wrote:
  Thought some of you all might want to read...
 
  http://www.sfbg.com/39/22/cover_fcc.html
 
 
 The article is great - Mainly. However, opening with this quote:
 
 'ALL I WANT  is to make a high-definition copy of Buffy the Vampire
 Slayer, save it on a DVD, and loan it to my friend, says Sarah Brydon,
 looking up from a long table covered with half-built computers.
 
 REALLY gets my back up. Again. This is what the media companies are
 trying to (rightly) prevent with the broadcast flag. And MythTV is
 appearing to be referred to consistently in this light.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Allan.

Yeah, I thought the same thing. Perhaps we, as actual users of these
apps/cards/etc., should write our own article, a manifesto of sorts,
and post it somewhere highly visible. Maybe there is something already
out there, I dunno, but with the press that this keeps getting, an
update may be in order.

Garry
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Maverick
 The article is great - Mainly. However, opening with this quote:
 
 'ALL I WANT  is to make a high-definition copy of Buffy the Vampire
 Slayer, save it on a DVD, and loan it to my friend, says Sarah Brydon,
 looking up from a long table covered with half-built computers.
 
 REALLY gets my back up. Again. This is what the media companies are
 trying to (rightly) prevent with the broadcast flag. And MythTV is
 appearing to be referred to consistently in this light.

Your right. I doubt that will never change... just a consequence of
being the best open source PVR project on the net. Then again, what's
wrong with giving an HD copy of a tv show to a friend that doesn't
have an HD antenna? If her friend had the antenna, then she would have
been able to watch the show.

It seems like making something illegal to share, that's being *aired*
unencrypted, is kind of an oxymoron.

Let's face it, the only reason these companies (the one's with the
gun, I mean money, in the FCC's back) want the broadcast flag is so
they can produce more of those store shelf hogging TV seasons on DVD
and sell them to you for $40+ a season.

-Kenneth
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Re: [mythtv-users] Slightly OT: MythTV as Senior Project?

2005-03-03 Thread Andy Long
This might be kinda douche (i'm known for coming up with that sort of
idea in the morning), but how about a reccomendation-type feature,
similar to what Tivo has but on a much smaller scale.  Maybe have it
keep a log/database of important characteristics about what you watch
and record (such as actors, director, genre, etc...).  This would then
be used to generate show ideas that the user might want to see based
on what they previously watched.  I'm not sure if something like that
would meet your requirements or not.  Or hell, maybe it already has
something like that in or available for myth.  Just a thought.


On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 09:33:39 -0600, Michael J. Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sure...it could use AI to make itself better and better at interpreting the
 logs and telling the user how to fix the problem.  Once it got to certain
 proficientcy level it could just fix the problem itself by making changes
 to the system.  If the problem couldn't be fixed via software fixes and/or
 configuration fixes, it could just design new hardware, have it built at
 an automated factory..   :-)
 
 Craig Partin wrote:
 
 On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 09:12:03 -0600, Robert Denier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 09:43 -0500, Craig Partin wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
 
 If its going to figure out what's wrong and tell you how to fix it,
 then it might as well just fix it itself right?
 
 
 Its usually not that simple.  A tool like that ultimately can
 propose possible solutions to a problem, and give you the option
 of implementing those solutions, but there are times when the
 possible solutions are useless and its good for the software to
 at give the user enough information that he or she has the chance
 to figure out the true solution.
 
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Nuvexport

2005-03-03 Thread Chris Petersen
Any clues?
cvs is broken.  read the commit logs.  Will hopefully finish my changes 
today.

As a temporary fix, try installing the nuvexportrc file.
-Chris
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[mythtv-users] Re: 1080i

2005-03-03 Thread Neil
Joseph A. Caputo writes: 

On Wednesday 02 March 2005 18:00, Josh Burks wrote:
I hope Leadtek has improved the quality of fans they put on their
cards. We have ~2 Dozen white box oem pc's that came with Leadtek
nvidia cards. Over half of them growl, due to bearing/bushing failure.
The noise drives my co-workers nuts. On average, the fans went south
around 6 months old. 

Just an FYI...
Yeah, the fan on my Leadtek GF4MX-420 card went bad... not sure when; 
I'm sure it had something to do with the X lockups I was seeing all the 
time.  I don't think the heat was too bad unless I tried to do anything 
with OpenGL.  I finally noticed it when I rebuilt my system; not only 
was the fan not running, but the caps were going bad as well.  The card 
is in for RMA now; can't wait to get it back because the TVout blew 
away my current onboard nForce2 with the new NV18 encoder chip.  
If/when I do get it back, I may change out the fan for some passive 
cooling as a preemptive measure.
I still haven't notice anything with my leadtek card's fan. I will have to 
check it tonight. Seems quiet to me though. 

Anyways, Jarod, don't worry about sending your config. I got X working with 
the propietary 6pin ps/2 port. However, I'm still having solid battle with 
single head configuration on this port and DVI port. 

If anyone is interested in troubleshooting, here are my different 
mythfrontend logs: 

This is a single head configuration. Only component cable is connected on 
the proprietary 6pin p/s2 via the converter. VGA cable removed too. 

The link below is a log using Xv and that it only showed blank screen. 

http://restricted.dyndns.org/mythlog.txt 

I tried running mythfrontend like this: 

NO_XV=1 mythfrontend 

and guess what, I was able to watch the recorded program. So is it an 
OVERLAY issue when using single head? 

There is another link but I posted it last night in pastebin.com but it uses 
XvMC. The log was similar too however, it added some XvMC lines. Blank 
screen too. 

Here is another link of mythfrontend but using my twinhead xorg 
configuration using XvMC and I am able to see the recorded program without 
any issues. However, both DVI and VGA cables are connected. This is my 
current setup. 

http://restricted.dyndns.org/mythlog4.txt 

I did another test using mplayer. I played it like this: 

mplayer -vo xv test.st 

the system spiked to 99% cpu utilization. So it's not a Myth issue!!! 

What are your recommendations now. If I can get this to work using single 
head(to get rid of tearing in pictures), that would be awesome!!! 

Thanks. 

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Re: [mythtv-users] mysql error with mythweb

2005-03-03 Thread Chris Petersen
When I get that error, it means my disk is full.  That's the only time 
I've gotten that.  If your disk isn't full... I don't know what the 
problem is.
could also mean that the disk *was* full (or something else) and the 
table got corrupted.  In any case, googling for the error string will 
produce better/faster results than asking here.

-Chris
Ryan Kremser wrote:
Hello, somewhat of a newbie and was looking for help.  when i go to
mythweb i get an error saying
Fatal Error at /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/includes/programs.php, line 138:
SQL Error: Got error 28 from table handler
The system administrator has been notified and the problem will be
remedied shortly.
and then at line 138 this is what resides
   131  .' AND program.starttime != 
program.endtime)';
   132 // The extra query, if there is one
   133 if ($extra_query)
   134 $query .= ' AND '.$extra_query;
   135 // Group, sort and query
   136 $query .= ' GROUP BY program.chanid, program.starttime 
ORDER BY
program.starttime';
   137 $result = mysql_query($query)
   138 or trigger_error('SQL Error: '.mysql_error(), FATAL);
   139 // No results
   140 if (mysql_num_rows($result)  1) {
   141 mysql_free_result($result);
   142 return NULL;
   143 }
   144 // Load in all of the programs (if any?)
   145 global $Scheduled_Recordings;
   146 $these_programs = array();
   147 while ($data = mysql_fetch_assoc($result)) {
   148 if (!$data['chanid'])

Thanks for any help. I'm still trying to feel my way around this so
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Andy Long
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 16:09:36 +, Allan Stirling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Maverick wrote:
  Thought some of you all might want to read...
 
  http://www.sfbg.com/39/22/cover_fcc.html
 
 
 The article is great - Mainly. However, opening with this quote:
 
 'ALL I WANT  is to make a high-definition copy of Buffy the Vampire
 Slayer, save it on a DVD, and loan it to my friend, says Sarah Brydon,
 looking up from a long table covered with half-built computers.
 

==

 REALLY gets my back up. Again. This is what the media companies are
 trying to (rightly) prevent with the broadcast flag. 

==

No, this is not rightly something that media companies should be
allowed to prevent.  Under current law, they CAN'T prevent it.  It is
perfectly legal of you to lend a copy of a movie/TV show to a friend
to borrow and watch.  Would you assert that when you have friends
over, they shouldn't be allowed to watch TV at your house because they
don't help pay your cable bill?  If you are the person who rents a
movie at blockbuster, should your wife/girlfriend/kids have to also
rent the movie before they can sit down and watch it with you?  The
broadcast flag is trying to enforce a legal lie that you are the only
person who should be allowed to watch content that came from your
television, when both previously written law and common law say
otherwise.  What she advocates doing is legal, and should remain legal
as a form of fair use.


And MythTV is
 appearing to be referred to consistently in this light.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Geoff Scott
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 09:20:39 -0700, Garry Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Yeah, I thought the same thing. Perhaps we, as actual users of these
 apps/cards/etc., should write our own article, a manifesto of sorts,
 and post it somewhere highly visible. Maybe there is something already
 out there, I dunno, but with the press that this keeps getting, an
 update may be in order.
 
 Garry
 

Is there we start the drive to put a firefox-like add in the NYT?

I hate the flag, and I hate the greed it's come to represent.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Geoff Scott
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:39:40 -0800, Geoff Scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Is there we start the drive to put a firefox-like add in the NYT?
 
 I hate the flag, and I hate the greed it's come to represent.
 
 gs
 

Damn, I typed too fast.  Severe caffeine deficiency.

Is this where we start...

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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Maverick
 Yeah, I thought the same thing. Perhaps we, as actual users of these
 apps/cards/etc., should write our own article, a manifesto of sorts,
 and post it somewhere highly visible. Maybe there is something already
 out there, I dunno, but with the press that this keeps getting, an
 update may be in order.

Probably a good idea, but the MythTV site pretty much defines where it
stands without the need for 'press releases'. Hehe However misleading
the attention may be, anyone seeking true will find it in the code,
I'm sure.

Will MythTV obey the broadcast flag if it where to become law? Being
an open source project, seems like everyone would just remove that
section of code using illegal patches.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Matt Grommes
REALLY gets my back up. Again. This is what the media companies are
trying to (rightly) prevent with the broadcast flag. 

Andy Long wrote:
==
No, this is not rightly something that media companies should be
allowed to prevent.  Under current law, they CAN'T prevent it.  It is
perfectly legal of you to lend a copy of a movie/TV show to a friend
to borrow and watch.  Would you assert that when you have friends
over, they shouldn't be allowed to watch TV at your house because they
don't help pay your cable bill?  If you are the person who rents a
movie at blockbuster, should your wife/girlfriend/kids have to also
rent the movie before they can sit down and watch it with you?  The
broadcast flag is trying to enforce a legal lie that you are the only
person who should be allowed to watch content that came from your
television, when both previously written law and common law say
otherwise.  What she advocates doing is legal, and should remain legal
as a form of fair use.
Yes, thank you. The willingness people have to just cave to anything the 
media industry says is very disheartening. We need to have some common 
sense about these things and not just allow industry to dictate the 
features and uses we're allowed to have.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 08:39 -0800, Geoff Scott wrote:
 
 Is there we start the drive to put a firefox-like add in the NYT?
 
 I hate the flag, and I hate the greed it's come to represent.

The problem with this issue and all like it (CSS for example just as the
article mentions) is that most people don't really care.  They don't
understand the issue to start with and even if they do, they still don't
understand why they should care.

In the case of CSS, why does the average consumer care?  They can buy
their DVD players (and they are damn cheap now) and their DVDs and play
them.  What's the problem?  That some future company cannot do
something revolutionary and cool with DVD technology does not affect
their day to day life.  They don't miss the future possibilities they
don't already have.

You have to break that barrier to get any mass movement on these kinds
of issues.

It's like what a friend of my girlfriend's said when I tried to get her
to use jabber (and spread the use to her contacts) rather than MSN and
ICQ.  Even after I explained to her why using something open and
unencumbered is so important for future needs she still asked but why
do I care? and lamented about how ICQ did everything she cared about.

It's a hard battle.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Torrentocracy Patch against Mythtv-cvs

2005-03-03 Thread Chris Petersen
a.) every instance of the show puts the commercials in the same place
b.) the same show airing on different channels have the commercials in the
same place (SkyONE has radically different commercial placement than, say,
the sciFI channel).
c.) the commercials are the same length (could be gotten around by looking
at content on either side of commercials).
This is pretty standard -- shows are edited such that there are 
commercial breaks in certain places.  However, it does NOT account for 
the commercial breaks being the same length in each region (remember, 
commercials are regional things).

Also, don't forget that some people record before/after shows, and myth 
is never 100% accurate in the time you give it (I'm set to record an 
additional 2.5 minutes on each show, and my recordings are anywhere from 
1.5 to 3.5 minutes longer than the show runs)

And how would you pick which commercial flags to use?  My flagging is 
rather inaccurate on about half of my shows, and I go in and clean up 
ALL of my shows (almost every flag needs to be moved at least a few 
frames one direction or another).  Importing a flag list is useless to 
me if no one else shares my desire for perfect commercial cutting.

As for whether users want it or not -- that's easy, you just add a 
flag (default to off) for auto-sending/getting, and/or make it a manual 
choice -- just like transcode is now.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 11:47 -0500, Maverick wrote:
 
 Will MythTV obey the broadcast flag if it where to become law? Being
 an open source project, seems like everyone would just remove that
 section of code using illegal patches.

You are missing the point of the problem.  Software like Myth will not
even get access to the content to strip/remove/skip/ignore the flag.
The knowledge (i.e. programming specs) needed to get the information
from the HDTV capture card will not be available to a project like Myth
for those very reasons.

Sure, it could be reverse engineered for every device out there but
that's a long hard road.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Allan Stirling
Andy Long wrote:
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 16:09:36 +, Allan Stirling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

REALLY gets my back up. Again. This is what the media companies are
trying to (rightly) prevent with the broadcast flag. 
No, this is not rightly something that media companies should be
allowed to prevent.  Under current law, they CAN'T prevent it.  It is
perfectly legal of you to lend a copy of a movie/TV show to a friend
to borrow and watch.  
From my reading, this only applies to the FIRST copy (ie the original 
work, as broadcast). Does anyone have a reference for this allowance to 
lend a non-derivative copy?

Would you assert that when you have friends
over, they shouldn't be allowed to watch TV at your house because they
don't help pay your cable bill?  If you are the person who rents a
movie at blockbuster, should your wife/girlfriend/kids have to also
rent the movie before they can sit down and watch it with you? 
These are all seperate issues, since you are watching either the first 
copy, or timeshifting for your own personal use.

The
broadcast flag is trying to enforce a legal lie that you are the only
person who should be allowed to watch content that came from your
television, when both previously written law and common law say
otherwise.  

What she advocates doing is legal, and should remain legal
as a form of fair use.
Again, references. The only one I can find that answers this specific 
question is:

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=434043
Which says this is *not* legal.
Cheers,
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Allan Stirling
Matt Grommes wrote:
Yes, thank you. The willingness people have to just cave to anything the 
media industry says is very disheartening. We need to have some common 
sense about these things and not just allow industry to dictate the 
features and uses we're allowed to have.
Following this to absurdity, if what you are stating is legal, only one 
person in the US would have to subscribe to each of the available 
channels. They could then share out all the programs with their friends, 
who could share out to their friends.

I really wouldn't want to have that person's cable bill.
Cheers,
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Re: [mythtv-users] parts list

2005-03-03 Thread Maverick
 I have three of the SP1614C drives (the SATA version) and find that
 they are silent when idle, but I hear some vibrational noise when they
 are writing.  I use xfs on lvm over raid-5, and for some reason the
 drives seem to seek a lot.

Raid 5? You afraid of loosing tv shows? Hehe. I'd say it's the raid
causing the extra disk seeks, probably designed to be safer than
sorry, so it writes a lot and caches less. Maybe adjustable though.
Plus, you have 3 drives all doing I/O at the same time, so that's
probably going to make them 3 times louder than a non-raid
configuration accessing one drive.

 Have people found that lining the sides of the case (on the inside)
 with felt or something like that makes a big difference?

Use Dynamat, it's designed to be a sound barrier, made out of cork,
and probably more fire retardant than felt. Plus it has a sticky side
for easy application. Though I've never done this to a computer, it
works great on cars with lots of noisy speakers in them. :)

 I hope they come out with a 200G version, as I have room for one
 more...

I wanna 400GB version. ;)

-Kenneth
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Aaron Stewart
Close, but not quite..

IIRC, the law still prohibits group viewing, which is a gathering of
over 12 people.. That law applies to commercially available DVDs, VHS, as
well as recordings of shows.

It also seems to me that the new law would only prohibit *selling* of
devices that don't obey the new flag.. Meaning, you could build your own
device, just not market it.

And I'd imagine that at some point we'll see some kind of inline device
that would attach to your cable before your tv/tv card/box that strips out
the broadcast flag, but maybe that's just wishful thinking.

I'd also like to note that while the article in the SF Guardian has some
merit, the EFF tends to go off the deepend a bit.. They have a great
cause, and I applaud them for upholding it, but they go overboard far too
often, which lends them less credibility in political circles than is
their due.

-=Aaron

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Allan Stirling wrote:

 Matt Grommes wrote:
  Yes, thank you. The willingness people have to just cave to anything the
  media industry says is very disheartening. We need to have some common
  sense about these things and not just allow industry to dictate the
  features and uses we're allowed to have.

 Following this to absurdity, if what you are stating is legal, only one
 person in the US would have to subscribe to each of the available
 channels. They could then share out all the programs with their friends,
 who could share out to their friends.

 I really wouldn't want to have that person's cable bill.

 Cheers,

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Re: [mythtv-users] HD3000 FC3 Install guide

2005-03-03 Thread sean darcy


All worked well until the very end - installing the v4l drivers:
.
+ /sbin/ldconfig
+ /sbin/depmod -aq
+ /sbin/modprobe cx88-dvb
FATAL: Error inserting cx88_dvb 
(/lib/modules/2.6.11/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx88/cx88-dvb.ko): Unknown 
symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)

dmesg:
cx88_dvb: disagrees about version of symbol cx8802_fini_common
cx88_dvb: Unknown symbol cx8802_fini_common
cx88_dvb: disagrees about version of symbol cx88_core_put
Well I rebooted - is this like windows or what - and it seems to work.
FWIW, here's my dmesg:
Linux video capture interface: v1.00
cx2388x blackbird driver version 0.0.4 loaded
cx2388x: snapshot date 2005-03-03
cx88[0]: subsystem: 7063:3000, board: pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV 
[card=22,autodetected]
cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.4 loaded
cx2388x: snapshot date 2005-03-03
ACPI: PCI interrupt :02:00.0[A] - GSI 20 (level, low) - IRQ 225
cx88[0]: subsystem: 7063:3000, board: pcHDTV HD3000 HDTV 
[card=22,autodetected]
cx88[0]/0: found at :02:00.0, rev: 5, irq: 225, latency: 32, mmio: 
0xf000
tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (cx88[0])
tuner 1-0061: type set to 52 (Thomson DDT 7610 (ATSC/NTSC))
cx88[0]/0: registered device video0 [v4l2]
cx88[0]/0: registered device vbi0
cx88[0]/0: registered device radio0

Now let's see if I can get the rest to work!
sean

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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Torrentocracy Patch against Mythtv-cvs

2005-03-03 Thread Simon Kenyon
On Thursday 03 March 2005 15:32, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
 Simon Kenyon wrote:
 we use freedb, imdb and amazon already - so the point is moot
 all you would need is:

 None of those are hosted, operated, or under the control of anyone
 related to MythTV which was the point being made.

this is not going anywhere - but hey, what the heck :-)

it would be ok if it was not tied specifically to mythtv?
just like cddb is not tied to one player
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Torrentocracy Patch against Mythtv-cvs

2005-03-03 Thread Simon Kenyon
On Thursday 03 March 2005 17:35, Aaron Stewart wrote:
 Problem is that one must assume that:

 a.) every instance of the show puts the commercials in the same place
 b.) the same show airing on different channels have the commercials in the
 same place (SkyONE has radically different commercial placement than, say,
 the sciFI channel).
 c.) the commercials are the same length (could be gotten around by looking
 at content on either side of commercials).

 I'm guessin' that, while the idea is a great one, it's a wash.  But
 hopefully there's someone out there who's smarter than I am that can
 figure out how to do it.
not so!
rather that key by show
key by channel and time
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Andy Long
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 16:57:20 +, Allan Stirling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Andy Long wrote:
  On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 16:09:36 +, Allan Stirling
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 REALLY gets my back up. Again. This is what the media companies are
 trying to (rightly) prevent with the broadcast flag.
 
  No, this is not rightly something that media companies should be
  allowed to prevent.  Under current law, they CAN'T prevent it.  It is
  perfectly legal of you to lend a copy of a movie/TV show to a friend
  to borrow and watch.
 
  From my reading, this only applies to the FIRST copy (ie the original
 work, as broadcast). Does anyone have a reference for this allowance to
 lend a non-derivative copy?

Since a copy has to be transfixed to a medium to receive copyright,
how exactly does broadcasting qualify?  This isn't an attack against
you, just something I have oft wondered.  Nonetheless, it seems to be
splitting hairs on an issue.  So, if you don't own the original
filmstock a movie was shown on, but instead only own the DVD, no one
should be able to watch it with you?  Your friends shouldn't be
allowed to borrow it?  The DVD is not the original copy.  It is only a
copy of the original copy transfixed on a different medium.

By similar logic, it would seem libraries across the country are
committing mass infringement, since I know of few libraries that hand
out original manuscripts.  Any I have been too hand out copies of
copies (read: books).  And if you tape music off Top 40 radio and lend
it to a friend, is that a copyright offense?   I am certainly not a
lawyer (yet), but it would seem that even if this is what copyright
has come to mean, that we are letting fair use be destroyed in the
name of protecting a legal fiction (aka intellectual property).

I am certainly not advocating mass infringement, but let's be
reasonable here.  The framers of our Constitution intended for their
to be a balanced, leaky copyright system.  Perfect control over
Intellectual Property was never intended, and in fact was outright
rejected by both Madison and Jefferson as a bad idea.  The purpose of
copyright was to give incentive to produce while allowing for the
transfer of ideas from person to person.  We certianly have a system
that MORE than compensates the originator of a work.  The broadcast
flag only further upsets this balance by making us come more near to
perfect control of IP, which I - as well as many others - believe is
both unhealthy for maintaining a creative environment and a bad
principle for a democratic country.  In every other instance where a
new form of technology has upset the previous scheme of distributing
copyrighted material (player pianos, radio, television, cable, VCRs,
etc...), we have relied on the market to find the solution, not
imposed government regulations to keep the powers that be in business.

 
  Would you assert that when you have friends
  over, they shouldn't be allowed to watch TV at your house because they
  don't help pay your cable bill?  If you are the person who rents a
  movie at blockbuster, should your wife/girlfriend/kids have to also
  rent the movie before they can sit down and watch it with you?
 These are all seperate issues, since you are watching either the first
 copy, or timeshifting for your own personal use.
 
  The
  broadcast flag is trying to enforce a legal lie that you are the only
  person who should be allowed to watch content that came from your
  television, when both previously written law and common law say
  otherwise.
 
  What she advocates doing is legal, and should remain legal
  as a form of fair use.
 
 Again, references. The only one I can find that answers this specific
 question is:
 
 http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=434043
 
 Which says this is *not* legal.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Maverick
  Will MythTV obey the broadcast flag if it where to become law? Being
  an open source project, seems like everyone would just remove that
  section of code using illegal patches.
 
 You are missing the point of the problem.  Software like Myth will not
 even get access to the content to strip/remove/skip/ignore the flag.
 The knowledge (i.e. programming specs) needed to get the information
 from the HDTV capture card will not be available to a project like Myth
 for those very reasons.
 
 Sure, it could be reverse engineered for every device out there but
 that's a long hard road.

OK, so the software decoding driver on the pcHDTV would have to be
patched? Big deal. It really just sucks for closed source/hardware
things and just makes it a pain for the open sourcers. I really hope
there's no future for the broadcast flag, it's just the dumbest idea
ever.

Next in news, DMV mandates driver flag on automobiles. You'll only be
able to retrieve your car from your garage when the state allows, thus
eliminating traffic congestion. As part of the bill, sharing vehicles
with friends will also become illegal.

 Is there we start the drive to put a firefox-like add in the NYT?

 I hate the flag, and I hate the greed it's come to represent.

I put my name on the Firefox ad, I'd do the same for a MythTV supported cause.

I agree with Brian, getting people to care is the real problem.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: 1080i

2005-03-03 Thread Joseph A. Caputo
On Thursday 03 March 2005 11:29, Neil wrote:
 I still haven't notice anything with my leadtek card's fan. I will 
 have to  
 check it tonight. Seems quiet to me though. 

Perhaps *too* quiet... :-)

-JAC
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV review from a long-time TiVo user

2005-03-03 Thread Lane Schwartz
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:36:54 -0500, Donavan Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've just done a quick instrumentation of the code and verified that
 the calls are being made to disable/enable the screensaver properly as
 well as turn off dpms.  Why they're not working for all users, I'm not
 sure and right now I'm too tired to dig into it.

Wow. I'm really excited to hear this. I may try this out over the weekend!

Lane

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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 12:24 -0500, Maverick wrote:
 
 OK, so the software decoding driver on the pcHDTV would have to be
 patched?

cracked you mean?  to strip the flag?  i guess that would fall under the
category of the legislation that says that a manufacturer of a device
needs to make it not easy to break.  i wonder who decides what is easy
and what is difficult and who was negligent in this aspect of the law.

  Big deal. It really just sucks for closed source/hardware
 things and just makes it a pain for the open sourcers. I really hope
 there's no future for the broadcast flag, it's just the dumbest idea
 ever.

uhm.  yeah.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Andy Long
Cable isn't losing money throught people sharing TV shows.  The
networks maybe are (and that is risky).  What about the case of
broadcast television or OTA-HD content.  No one pays a nickel for
that, and never have, yet I haven't seen NBC, ABC, FOX, CBS or any
others go belly up.

Most people pay for cable because its convenient.  If the networks all
decided to distribute their shows over bit torrent and everyone went
that route, then tough shit for the cable companies.  It's not like
they have some right to exist, nor are we indebted to them. 
Innovation has changed how content was distributed before, and it will
do so again.  The broadcast flag is just an attempt by the networks to
keep from having to switch to a new method of distribution, because
when that happens some of the old hats in the industry might lose
money.  We are *slowly* seeing the music industry come around to this
notion that if you sell the people what they want, they won't do it
illegally.

If only one person in the country paid for cable and then shared the
shows, don't you think content creators/copyright holders would
realize that? In such an instance, where everyone has shown preference
for getting TV/movies via the internet, which would you say is better:
 prosecuting everyone and making them get cable, or putting content in
the form people want and letting them access it that way?  It's
something that could still be charged for.  It just takes a different
business model to do it.  Just because people are choosing to get
their content in a different way doesn't mean that it should
inherently be illegal.  It just means the market is changing, and the
law should allow the market to find its happy medium.


On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 17:01:12 +, Allan Stirling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matt Grommes wrote:
  Yes, thank you. The willingness people have to just cave to anything the
  media industry says is very disheartening. We need to have some common
  sense about these things and not just allow industry to dictate the
  features and uses we're allowed to have.
 
 Following this to absurdity, if what you are stating is legal, only one
 person in the US would have to subscribe to each of the available
 channels. They could then share out all the programs with their friends,
 who could share out to their friends.
 
 I really wouldn't want to have that person's cable bill.
 
 Cheers,
 
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[mythtv-users] Problems following instructions for MythTV on Fedora Core 3

2005-03-03 Thread James Emmrich
Hi everyone
*sorry if this email has gone twice, oops*
I am following the article: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php
Everything has went perfect so far, cept when i try to install a kernal
module for ivtv.
apt-cache search ivtv-kmdl shows
ivtv-kmdl-2.6.10-1.12_FC2 - IVTV kernel drivers.
ivtv-kmdl-2.6.10-1.12_FC2smp - IVTV kernel drivers.
ivtv-kmdl-2.6.10-1.14_FC2 - IVTV kernel drivers.
ivtv-kmdl-2.6.10-1.14_FC2smp - IVTV kernel drivers.
ivtv-kmdl-2.6.10-1.8_FC2 - IVTV kernel drivers.
ivtv-kmdl-2.6.10-1.8_FC2smp - IVTV kernel drivers.
ivtv-kmdl-2.6.10-1.9_FC2 - IVTV kernel drivers.
ivtv-kmdl-2.6.10-1.9_FC2smp - IVTV kernel drivers.
ivtv-kmdl-2.6.9-1.11_FC2 - IVTV kernel drivers.
ivtv-kmdl-2.6.9-1.11_FC2smp - IVTV kernel drivers.
ivtv-kmdl-2.6.9-1.6_FC2 - IVTV kernel drivers.
ivtv-kmdl-2.6.9-1.6_FC2smp - IVTV kernel drivers.
and I have done:
rpm -q kernel
which shows:
kernel-2.6.9-1.667
kernel-2.6.10-1.766_FC3
kernel-2.6.10-1.770_FC3
Looks like I dont have a kernel version that will work, so how do I
apt-get/yum a newer version of kernel?
Thanks, looking forward to mythtv :)
James
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Geoff Scott
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:24:57 -0500, Maverick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I put my name on the Firefox ad, I'd do the same for a MythTV supported cause.
 
 I agree with Brian, getting people to care is the real problem.
 
 -Kenneth
 

Can't we just use scare tactics?

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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV review from a long-time TiVo user

2005-03-03 Thread Mario L
I was about to mention it does seem that myth makes the appropriate
calls to xscreensaver consistently for me.  I can watch TV without
worrying about the screensaver coming up, but when I am at the main
menu, if I just wait xscreensaver will enable, and then later my dpms
will kick in.  I can even wake it up using my remote and lirc.

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 11:32:21 -0600, Lane Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 20:36:54 -0500, Donavan Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  I've just done a quick instrumentation of the code and verified that
  the calls are being made to disable/enable the screensaver properly as
  well as turn off dpms.  Why they're not working for all users, I'm not
  sure and right now I'm too tired to dig into it.
 
 Wow. I'm really excited to hear this. I may try this out over the weekend!
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 09:44 -0800, Geoff Scott wrote:
 
 Can't we just use scare tactics?

What would you scare the average consumer with?  If you have an idea,
you might have the magic bullet.

b.



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Re: [mythtv-users] Slightly OT: MythTV as Senior Project?

2005-03-03 Thread Vijay Gill
You could try to fix something which gives problem:

When I use mythtranscode + mencoder to encode movies to mpeg2, there
is a sudden noise at the beginning of the recording. This can be
removed by making the sound coming from mythtranscode to have fade-in
effect. This is just a suggestion.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Slightly OT: MythTV as Senior Project?

2005-03-03 Thread Jeff Simpson
What about just a fix to the problem with multiplexing mpeg2? I think
it basically boils down to there is no decent tool to accomplish
this, so as a result anyone that wants to record the hauppauge mpeg2
recordings to a dvd have to use avidemux, which never seems to work
right and doesn't have a console-only mode for doing cutlists and
simple multiplexing.

I imagine a transcoder/multiplexer type utility would be a good
project for a compilers course, since it's all about compiler
efficiency when you can get a frame per second rate in the output

 - Jeff

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 18:02:34 +, Vijay Gill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You could try to fix something which gives problem:
 
 When I use mythtranscode + mencoder to encode movies to mpeg2, there
 is a sudden noise at the beginning of the recording. This can be
 removed by making the sound coming from mythtranscode to have fade-in
 effect. This is just a suggestion.
 
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[mythtv-users] Re: [mythtv] Slightly OT: MythTV as Senior Project?

2005-03-03 Thread Ross Campbell
 My friend and I are seniors at the University of California,
 Riverside, and we are trying to find a fun project we can work on for
 our senior project.  However, this is supposed to be a compilers
 class, but our professor is open to ideas for our project, as long as it
 is somewhat compiler related.

Finish porting MythTV to Cygwin so that Windows can be used as a fully
functional MythTV frontend.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Risto Treksler
On Thursday 03 March 2005 10:01 am, Allan Stirling wrote:
 Matt Grommes wrote:
  Yes, thank you. The willingness people have to just cave to anything the
  media industry says is very disheartening. We need to have some common
  sense about these things and not just allow industry to dictate the
  features and uses we're allowed to have.

 Following this to absurdity, if what you are stating is legal, only one
 person in the US would have to subscribe to each of the available
 channels. They could then share out all the programs with their friends,
 who could share out to their friends.

*puts on tinfoil hat*

Let's put it this way, it's no more illegal to lend a copy of a Buffy tape to 
your friend, than it is for you to lend a copy of your LOTR DVD, or even 
something like a sweater that you bought.

The idea is that consumers have a fair use clause in the law, so that they can 
make a copy, and use it fairly. ie. do with it, what you can do with 
anything else you bought

This quickly becomes a question of what is for sale
ie what is the product and who are the consumers

The consumers and the networks are operating under two completely different 
sets of assumptions here.

1)Lending Buffy to your friend, like you can lend any other DVD,
implies that the copy of Buffy was the product and it was sold to you by the 
networks, and that you paid for it by watching ads or paying for cable or 
whatever.

2)Not being able to lend Buffy to your friend implies that 
you were the product, and you were sold to the advertisers by the networks, 
and that the advertisers paid large amounts of MONEY to the networks, for 
their product -- you.

People see that the shows have ads in them.
To the advertisers and the networks the ads have shows interjected.

Something has to be done about this mentality, 
in order to defeat the broadcast flag.
People have to reassert them as consumers in the broadcast model.

The masses have to realize that the broadcast flag entails legalized 
exploitation of consumers, but i am afraid, as is the author of this article, 
that since their future rights are in question, they won't until it's too 
late.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Maverick
  Can't we just use scare tactics?
 
 What would you scare the average consumer with?  If you have an idea,
 you might have the magic bullet.

Sadly, that probably would be most effective. I know a lot of people
are addicted to TV, but I wouldn't die if it just stopped existing in
all forms. Internet access, well, that's a whole different thing. One
week without it and I'm a crack head looking for a free hit, in a mad
panic to find the nearest cyber cafe to juice my laptop into some
wi-fi internet accessing love. Man, I'm part of the internet
generation, not TV-land. In fact, I'd say 5 hours of tv a week, 50+
hours of Internet a week, depending on how much I work. Whoa, they
should have pills for this condition! :)

-Kenneth
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Michael Chmilar

--- Andy Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What about the case of
 broadcast television or OTA-HD content.  No one pays a nickel for
 that, and never have, yet I haven't seen NBC, ABC, FOX, CBS or any
 others go belly up.

The networks make their money by selling you (the audience) to
advertisers. If your recording contains the commercials, and you
don't have a mechanism for skipping or excising the commercials, then
watching or sharing your recording has not done any harm to the
networks. You are just helping them with additional distribution of
the advertisements.

As to the larger debate: U.S. copyright is a very sensible and
workable law (except for the extensions that media companies have
won). The problem with the broadcast flag is that it is far more
restrictive than copyright law. The broadcast flag prevents fair
use of media, which is legal according to copyright law.

As to the cracking of HDTV receivers that adhere to the broadcast
flag: This is where the DMCA comes into play. It is illegal to
circumvent a copyright protection mechanism. The protection mechanism
can be pathetically weak (such as the DVD CSS protection), but that
does not matter. While this does not prevent the underground from
distributing the information about cracking, it does stop
manufacturers and importers from selling a pre-cracked plug 'n' play
device to the masses, in the U.S.

The FCC broadcast flag proposal does mandate that devices be
reasonably secure against cracking, which probably means the
protection mechanism must be stronger than DVD CSS. It also stops an
HDTV card maker from adding a weak mechanism, and then leaking the
simple crack to the web.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Geoff Scott
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 12:58:17 -0500, Brian J. Murrell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 09:44 -0800, Geoff Scott wrote:
 
  Can't we just use scare tactics?
 
 What would you scare the average consumer with?  If you have an idea,
 you might have the magic bullet.
 
 b.
 

Given one of the posters thoughts, which I think are really good, how
about something like:

The Big Media Companies are about to buy you.  The Government is
about to sell you.  Do you want to be a digital slave?

or

Imagine a world with no fast forward buttons

I dunno, I'm grasping here...

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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Maverick
   Can't we just use scare tactics?
 
  What would you scare the average consumer with?  If you have an idea,
  you might have the magic bullet.

 Given one of the posters thoughts, which I think are really good, how
 about something like:
 
 The Big Media Companies are about to buy you.  The Government is
 about to sell you.  Do you want to be a digital slave?
 
 or
 
 Imagine a world with no fast forward buttons
 
 I dunno, I'm grasping here...

Works for me. I think a good mythtv commercial would be:

If you had MythTV, you wouldn't be watching this commercial...

or

Buy a MythTV now or we'll force you to watch commercials!

:)

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Re: [mythtv-users] Slightly OT: MythTV as Senior Project?

2005-03-03 Thread Josh Burks
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 13:12:44 -0500, Jeff Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What about just a fix to the problem with multiplexing mpeg2? I think
 it basically boils down to there is no decent tool to accomplish
 this, so as a result anyone that wants to record the hauppauge mpeg2
 recordings to a dvd have to use avidemux, which never seems to work
 right and doesn't have a console-only mode for doing cutlists and
 simple multiplexing.
 
 I imagine a transcoder/multiplexer type utility would be a good
 project for a compilers course, since it's all about compiler
 efficiency when you can get a frame per second rate in the output
 
  - Jeff
 

I second this. A mpeg2 to mpeg2 cut that works would be awesome.

Josh
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Neil Watson
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 10:41:31AM -0800, Geoff Scott wrote:
Given one of the posters thoughts, which I think are really good, how
about something like:
The Big Media Companies are about to buy you.  The Government is
about to sell you.  Do you want to be a digital slave?
or
Imagine a world with no fast forward buttons
Ultimately the broadcast flag will take away our VCRs.  VCRs will be
phased out in favour of DVRs which, when honouring the broadcast flag,
will be less functional.  No more time shifting.
Ultimately, I think this law will fail.  Even if it's passed, there will
be mass civil disobedience.  There will be a work around.  There always
is.  People will simply buy offshore devices that shipped in brown paper
boxes.  

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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Jason Werpy
On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 11:07:17 -0500, Mark L. Cukier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Currently I would NEVER consider getting a black box-- I'm not going
 to steal cable. But, once the black boxes output a signal with the
 flag filtered out... well, I'll still pay for my cable but I'll
 definitely have a black box!
 
 :-D
 
 

This reminds me of an add they run on my cable where a guy is
interviewing for a job.  Then the interviewer notes that he has a
criminal record.  The inverviewee says Oh that, I just had one of
those cable descramblers, its was no big deal.  The interviewer looks
at him and says well this interview is over, or something like that. 
Then cue the ominous Cable Theft, its a Crime, voice over.  Every
time and I mean EVERY time I see this add I can just hear them
replacing the line about stealing cable with I just recorded a show
to watch later with my PVR, and replacing the cable theft line with
Recoding HD TV, its a Crime.

At that point I just shake my head, because I know thats exactly how
Big Media wants it to be.  But I do still know one thing, I will do
everything in my power to never ever honor the copy bit, no matter
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Re: [mythtv-users] Commercial Skip

2005-03-03 Thread Brad Templeton
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 08:56:34AM -0500, James Armstrong wrote:
 
 While I'm writing, I have a wishlist request:  it'd be nice to be able
 to have the automatic skipping start 1 or 2 seconds after the
 beginning of the commercial (the number should be configurable and
 could default to zero, or course).  The reason is that sometimes the
 skips are so perfect that I can't tell whether I missed any of the
 show.
 
 How about a configurable feature for Commercial flagging that will not 
 save any 'supposed' commercials over xx minutes. I have been having good 
 luck with commercial flagging lately but there is an occasional 
 commercial that is flagged and is over 5 or 6 minutes and is bogus. I 
 think most of my commercials are only a few minutes long so ignoring 
 ones longer than that would cut out some bad commercial flagging.

Such long gaps do exist, though they are rare, and one presumes the
flagging algorithm settles on them only when it feels it should.

However, an intermediate solution to your problem would be to set it so
that if the gap found is very long, to turn it into two adjacent gaps,
using the 2nd most likely cut-point, no matter how poorly it scored
compared to the 6 minute one.

For those doing auto-skip, they would see no difference, the points are
adjacent.  For those doing manual skip, they would just be hitting the
End button one extra time.
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[mythtv-users] PVR350 frame buffer blanking before calling mplayer

2005-03-03 Thread jgmtfia Mr
I am looking for a way to blank the frame buffer before mplayer is
called to view video files.  mplayer sometimes in unable to black out
the areas that lie outside of its chosen playback area even though I
have selected that option on the mplayer command line.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Broadcast Flag Article mentions MythTV and quotes Issac

2005-03-03 Thread Mark L. Cukier
LEIA: The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will 
slip through your fingers

Neil Watson wrote:
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 10:41:31AM -0800, Geoff Scott wrote:
Given one of the posters thoughts, which I think are really good, how
about something like:
The Big Media Companies are about to buy you.  The Government is
about to sell you.  Do you want to be a digital slave?
or
Imagine a world with no fast forward buttons

Ultimately the broadcast flag will take away our VCRs.  VCRs will be
phased out in favour of DVRs which, when honouring the broadcast flag,
will be less functional.  No more time shifting.
Ultimately, I think this law will fail.  Even if it's passed, there will
be mass civil disobedience.  There will be a work around.  There always
is.  People will simply buy offshore devices that shipped in brown paper
boxes. 


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Re: [mythtv-users] upgrading from CVS?

2005-03-03 Thread Matt S.
Thank you... that really was helpful.  :) 

I use Debian, so the rpms are out, but I really don't mind just
redoing it each time.  It's not really that big of a deal for me.  I
usually try to upgrade once a month, or if a major change is made in
CVS.  I like to get fixes, particularly since mythtv development seems
to move fairly quickly as far a feature sets/fixes/improvements are
concerned.

Thanks!
Matt


On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 22:30:42 -0800, Brad Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 10:02:11PM -0600, Matt S. wrote:
  Would there be any harm in copying the settings.pro file out, then
  doing a make distclean, then removing the myth directory and just
  doing cvs as from scratch?  Seems almost as easy.  Anything else I
  would need to backup or reasons why this would be a bad idea?
 
 You can do that, though in fact you can also not copy out settings.pro,
 because CVS will merge your changes with any changes made in the
 source tree -- that's the purpose of cvs.
 
 If your goal is just to compile from cvs sources without using what
 CVS does, you might want to check into Axel's regular rpms-from-cvs
 including source rpms.
 
 (If you're on Fedora, anyway.)
 
 If you feel something has gone wrong with your cvs tree, you can do
 the technique you describe, but otherwise cvs's job is to figure all
 this out for you.

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[mythtv-users] RF remote options / XBox Remote

2005-03-03 Thread Reza Naima
Does anyone know of a RF remote that can works w/ linux, and what remote
are xbox frontend users using?

thnx,
reza


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