date:20050720

I saw an article late last week about Time Warner
offering IPTV to their customers in San Diego.  It was
just a duplicate of their regular cable offerings. 
The big DSL providers (i.e. SBC here in the U.S.) will
likely be the first ones to offer it, since they don't
have any analog cable bandwidth to speak of.  (Could
be that Time Warner is trying to beat SBC to the
punch.)

IPTV support as a whole is a good thing for the
industry, but it will definitely have some growing
pains.  A lot of the existing infrastructure isn't
designed for the bandwidth and routing that it will
require.

Nonetheless, it will be nice when it comes in.

-- Joe

--- Marius Schrecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is this something that the individual ISP's are
 providing or are the streaming
 services freely available? I've not yet been able to
 track down much IPTV
 of interest.
 
 Cheers
 
 Marius
 -- Original Message --
 From: Micael Beronius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Discussion about mythtv
 mythtv-users@mythtv.org
 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:38:45 +0200
 Subject: [mythtv-users] IP TV support on the
 agenda?
 Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv
 mythtv-users@mythtv.org
 
 
 
 Where I'm at (Sweden), many ISP's are pushing
 customers to get the TV over
 the
 ethernet/dsl the quality seams to be as good/better
 than DVB, and many (most)
 
 channels are availible. Normally a bunch of channels
 can be received at
 the
 same time w
 thout choking the IP connection, which allows for
 simulaneous
 recording and watching.
 
 This seams like the perfect solution; get TV without
 hardware, rapid channel
 
 change, no problem with reception etc etc. Apart
 from that there seams to
 be
 not
 support for this in Myth? Or is there? (someone
 working on this?)
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] TV won't sync in Mythtv menus

2005-07-20 Thread Ivor Hewitt

On 7/15/05, Robin Gilks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings
 
 An odd one here on an Epia SP13000 m/b. Watching TV, playing back a
 recording, watching video (mplayer) or DVD (Xine) are all fine when I use
 the Unichrome driver in 720x576NoScale mode but the Mythtv menus are
 screwed up - interlace problem I think.
 

define screwed up
and interlace problem I think
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RE: [mythtv-users] IP TV support on the agenda?

2005-07-20 Thread Brian J. Murrell

On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 08:22 -0700, Joe Votour wrote:
 A lot of the existing infrastructure isn't
 designed for the bandwidth and routing that it will
 require.

Bandwidth need not be a problem.  Multicast.  Doubt they will use such
an elegant solution, but it's there waiting to be used.

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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-500 (MCE?) Firmware

I'm assuming that you are using the audio driver from
ivtv-firmware-audio-0.0.1-1.at and not the latest from the driver CD.

I tried 0x02040011 last night with ivtv 0.3.6w and got bad video with
no sound on both tuners.  With 0.3.6o and the latest encoder and audio
drivers from the CD, I get good video on both tuners and sound on the
1st tuner.  I think I will try reverting back to the
ivtv-firmware-audio-0.0.1-1.at audio driver with the 0x02040011
encoder and see how that goes.  For what it's worth, I'm using FC2
with kernel-2.6.10-1.771_FC2.  Could this be a kernel issue?
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Re: [mythtv-users] OpenGL vsync

If OpenGL VSync is working, then the video timing
method should be listed as SGI OpenGL.  Since it is
listed as RTC, you are not using OpenGL VSync.

However, what you've pasted from the logs indicates
that the OpenGL VSync checking code is failing.  Thus,
it appears you have it enabled in the frontend, but
your card or driver doesn't support it.

What type of video card do you have, and which driver
are you running?  As a point of reference, I am using
a GeForce 5200FX card with the nVidia driver version
7174, and OpenGL VSync is working just fine.

Are you using an nVidia card and nVidia driver? 
OpenGL VSync might not work with other cards (i.e.
ATI), and probably won't work any driver but the
binary/proprietary nVidia one.

-- Joe

--- Sammo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I compiled mythtv with --enable-opengl-vsync
 
 How do I validate that it is actually using opengl
 vsync?
 
 Does the following have anything to do with it?
 
 mythfrontend -v playback log.txt
 
 nVidiaVideoSync: Could not open device /dev/nvidia0,
 No such device or address
 DRMVideoSync: VBlank ioctl did not work,
 unimplemented in this driver?
 Using audio as timebase
 Video timing method: RTC
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[mythtv-users] MythGame - Again...

2005-07-20 Thread A JM

Sorry for beating a deadhorse but still in pursuit of getting MythGame
to work on my Xbox with xebian 1.0.2.

I did a re-install of a backed up version of 0.17 last night then did
and apt-get install mythtv to 0.18 and it seemed to have upgraded
most of the packages.

I did an apt-get install 'mythplugins' and it seems to have updated
some of the other 0.17 apps, mythdvd, mythmusic, mythweather but
mythgame still hangs onto 0.17 when I do  'dpkg -l | grep myth'  the
only package that has not been updated to 0.18 is mythgame it still is
at 0.17.

My question is how do I upgrade mythgame form 0.17? Has mythgame been
upgraded to 0.18?

If mythgame is not availalbe in 0.18 can someone give me some
direction as to the best way to compile it? Can I only compile a
single package from the mythplugins?

Thanks for any help you can give.
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RE: [mythtv-users] IP TV support on the agenda?

(At this point, we're kind of off-topic.)

My guess then is that you haven't tried to stream tons
of multicast data through switches then (either
high-end or low-end).

Where I work, we have.  And we have found many of
those switches to be broken, only supporting a few
IGMP groups (no higher than 16 as I recall), or just
not able to keep up with a full 38Mbps MPEG-2 stream. 
There's apparently a few DSLAMs (for DSL) that can't
keep up with anything close to that kind of traffic
either.

I agree that multicast is the way to go for broadcast
TV.  But if the underlying equipment can't deliver the
traffic, then there will be problems.

Then again, we've also had our share of problems with
GigaBit switches not being able to deliver a GigaBit
of data.  But that's another story.

-- Joe

--- Brian J. Murrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 08:22 -0700, Joe Votour wrote:
  A lot of the existing infrastructure isn't
  designed for the bandwidth and routing that it
 will
  require.
 
 Bandwidth need not be a problem.  Multicast.  Doubt
 they will use such
 an elegant solution, but it's there waiting to be
 used.
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Indoor OTA HDTV Antenna Recommendations

2005-07-20 Thread Robert Tsai

On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 09:14:27AM -0400, al wrote:
 Can anyone recommend a good indoor OTA HDTV antenna?
 
 According to antennaweb.org, I live ~6.2 miles from a bunch of OTA
 stations (center city Philadelphia). I'm on the 10th floor of an
 apartment building, so an outdoor antenna is not an option.

I have a similar situation to you, and use a Radio Shack 15-1868
indoor antenna split to 2 x HD-3000 cards:

http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLGcategory%5Fname=CTLG%5F003%5F001%5F001%5F000product%5Fid=15%2D1868site=search

The clerk encouraged me to buy it, test it out, and return it if it
didn't work. In any case, it was only $20.

I've also tried the Zenith Silver Sensor ZHDTV1 (a.k.a. Philips
PM-HDTV1). I found that it didn't work as well for me.

 Are these Terk models any good?
 
 http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=terk+antenna+hdtvpid=4694681141821754546

I've never used a Terk model, but it looks similar to the Zenith I
mentioned above.

Have fun,
--Rob


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[mythtv-users] Re: [PATCH] Mythweb -- Mythmusic playlist functionality AND Request for SQL help

2005-07-20 Thread eric.partington

Title: Re: [PATCH] Mythweb -- Mythmusic playlist functionality AND Request for SQL help

Does this patch still exist anywhere? I have been trying to get the ability to edit mythmusic playlists using mythweb from another computer but have yet to figure out a way. This patch seemed to be a good idea but I cant find it. Anyone know of another way to edit mythmusic playlists using mythweb?

http://www.afferentsys.com/~rbsteffes/patch-mythmusic.bz2

This patch adds to the functionality I've been working on to add
playlist manipulation to mythweb. Previously added was the ability to
create/rename/add to/remove from a playlist. I've added reordering
playlists.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OpenGL vsync

2005-07-20 Thread Asher Schaffer

I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but I am having opengl vsync
problems as well, but I'm on an epia.  As far as I can tell opengl
should be working okay, I can compile everything with opengl enabled,
but the logs show:

DRMVideoSync: VBlank ioctl did not work, unimplemented in this driver?
OpenGLVideoSync: GLX extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address
GLX_ARB_multisample GLX_EXT_import_context GLX_EXT_visual_info
GLX_EXT_visual_rating GLX_SGIS_multisample
OpenGLVideoSync: GLX Video Sync extension not present.

I'm not sure where I need to look to find more information about the problem
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RE: [mythtv-users] IP TV support on the agenda?

2005-07-20 Thread Brian J. Murrell

On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 08:40 -0700, Joe Votour wrote:
 (At this point, we're kind of off-topic.)

Yeah.  But but so is 50% of the traffic on this list.  :-)

 My guess then is that you haven't tried to stream tons
 of multicast data through switches then (either
 high-end or low-end).

Nope.

 Where I work, we have.  And we have found many of
 those switches to be broken, only supporting a few
 IGMP groups (no higher than 16 as I recall), or just
 not able to keep up with a full 38Mbps MPEG-2 stream. 

Then network carriers are either going to have to demand a working
product from their vendors, or switch vendors.  That some equipment does
not work with a technology does make the technology bad.  It makes good
vendors shine.

 There's apparently a few DSLAMs (for DSL) that can't
 keep up with anything close to that kind of traffic
 either.

If anything, multicast should be easier on a DSLAM than unicast x n
streams will be.  Given that a DSLAM is essentially a
multiplexor/aggregator or whatever else you want to call it:

 +-+
 |D|- DSL customer 1 -
 |S|- DSL customer 2 -
    network pipe |L|- DSL customer 3 -
 |A|- DSL customer 4 -
 |M|- DSL customer n -
 +-+

Having a single stream of data on that network pipe which is
replicated in the DSLAM itself has got to be easier to handle than
having that same stream sent n number of times down the network pipe.

This is essentially the beauty of multicast of course.  If there is
*any* device out there that should handle multicast correctly it should
be a DSLAM.  That, after-all is the last mile, where the pipe is
dedicated and no longer shared amongst users -- until we start to see
true routers at customer premises, but that's probably going to be a
niche market.  In probably most cases there is one customer at the end
of a DSL pipe.


 I agree that multicast is the way to go for broadcast
 TV.  But if the underlying equipment can't deliver the
 traffic, then there will be problems.

Indeed.  And demand will take care of that.

 Then again, we've also had our share of problems with
 GigaBit switches not being able to deliver a GigaBit
 of data.  But that's another story.

Heh.

Customer: Can your switch actually handle a gigabit of traffic?
Vendor: A gigabit of traffic?  Sure.  Wait.  Do you mean like you mean
all in one second?  Let me get back to you on that.

:-)

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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Indoor OTA HDTV Antenna Recommendations

First, find out what frequencies your digital TV stations are one. 
Many areas have only UHF broadcasts (14-69), which uses a different
antenna type than VHF (2-13).Also, if all your stations are
broadcast from one location, a highly directional antenna (like the
Silver Sensor) will work well. For me,  the Radio Shack Double
Bowtie UHF antenna worked much better than any other I tried (it's
available in their catalog, but not in stores without a special order.
  It's less than $20).

Even in a city/apartment, some outdoor antennas may be usable.   In an
apartment I lived in, I used the ChannelMaster 4228 on my balcony. 
It's a 4 bay bowtie antenna, and it's very flat,  so I just tacked it
to the wall.   The squareshooter may also fall into this category.


But, in a city center with big buildings, there are a lot of
variables.  Dead spots or multipath from surrounding buildings can be
challenging.I would first try a few cheap indoor antennas from
stores with good return policies, hopefully you'll be able to get a
bunch of channels easily since your so close to the transmissions.




On 7/20/05, al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can anyone recommend a good indoor OTA HDTV antenna?
 
 According to antennaweb.org, I live ~6.2 miles from a bunch of OTA
 stations (center city Philadelphia). I'm on the 10th floor of an
 apartment building, so an outdoor antenna is not an option.
 
 Are these Terk models any good?
 
 http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=terk+antenna+hdtvpid=4694681141821754546
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] OpenGL vsync

2005-07-20 Thread Tom Hughes

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asher Schaffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but I am having opengl vsync
 problems as well, but I'm on an epia.  As far as I can tell opengl
 should be working okay, I can compile everything with opengl enabled,
 but the logs show:

 DRMVideoSync: VBlank ioctl did not work, unimplemented in this driver?
 OpenGLVideoSync: GLX extensions: GLX_ARB_get_proc_address
 GLX_ARB_multisample GLX_EXT_import_context GLX_EXT_visual_info
 GLX_EXT_visual_rating GLX_SGIS_multisample
 OpenGLVideoSync: GLX Video Sync extension not present.

 I'm not sure where I need to look to find more information about the problem

Your driver has not declared OpenGl video sync support, so Myth is not
able to use it. That's what GLX Video Sync extension not present is
trying to tell you.

If your drive did support it then you would see GLX_SGI_video_sync in
the list of GLX extensions that it reported.

Tom

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Re: [mythtv-users] OpenGL vsync

2005-07-20 Thread Asher Schaffer

On 7/20/05, Tom Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Your driver has not declared OpenGl video sync support, so Myth is not
 able to use it. That's what GLX Video Sync extension not present is
 trying to tell you.
 
 If your drive did support it then you would see GLX_SGI_video_sync in
 the list of GLX extensions that it reported.
 
 Tom

Okay, thanks, that's what I thought, but I couldn't find anything
online about it.  Does anyone know if this just isn't implemented in
the unichrome drivers, or if there is just a problem on my machine?
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RE: [mythtv-users] IP TV support on the agenda?

2005-07-20 Thread Dean Collins

Yep I saw the Time Warner trial document, nice (and unexpected) option.
SBC have an interesting offering about to be released that will also
allow you to watch what you have saved to your set top box from a remote
location (eg watch from your office what you saved last night).

Cheers,
Dean


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Votour
 Sent: Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:23 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion about mythtv
 Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] IP TV support on the agenda?
 
 I saw an article late last week about Time Warner
 offering IPTV to their customers in San Diego.  It was
 just a duplicate of their regular cable offerings.
 The big DSL providers (i.e. SBC here in the U.S.) will
 likely be the first ones to offer it, since they don't
 have any analog cable bandwidth to speak of.  (Could
 be that Time Warner is trying to beat SBC to the
 punch.)
 
 IPTV support as a whole is a good thing for the
 industry, but it will definitely have some growing
 pains.  A lot of the existing infrastructure isn't
 designed for the bandwidth and routing that it will
 require.
 
 Nonetheless, it will be nice when it comes in.
 
 -- Joe
 
 --- Marius Schrecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is this something that the individual ISP's are
  providing or are the streaming
  services freely available? I've not yet been able to
  track down much IPTV
  of interest.
 
  Cheers
 
  Marius
  -- Original Message --
  From: Micael Beronius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Discussion about mythtv
  mythtv-users@mythtv.org
  Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:38:45 +0200
  Subject: [mythtv-users] IP TV support on the
  agenda?
  Reply-To: Discussion about mythtv
  mythtv-users@mythtv.org
  
  
  
  Where I'm at (Sweden), many ISP's are pushing
  customers to get the TV over
  the
  ethernet/dsl the quality seams to be as good/better
  than DVB, and many (most)
 
  channels are availible. Normally a bunch of channels
  can be received at
  the
  same time w
  thout choking the IP connection, which allows for
  simulaneous
  recording and watching.
 
  This seams like the perfect solution; get TV without
  hardware, rapid channel
 
  change, no problem with reception etc etc. Apart
  from that there seams to
  be
  not
  support for this in Myth? Or is there? (someone
  working on this?)
 
 
- Micael
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Indoor OTA HDTV Antenna Recommendations

2005-07-20 Thread Ian Trider

On 7/20/05, Todd Ignasiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 First, find out what frequencies your digital TV stations are one.
 Many areas have only UHF broadcasts (14-69), which uses a different
 antenna type than VHF (2-13).Also, if all your stations are
 broadcast from one location, a highly directional antenna (like the
 Silver Sensor) will work well. For me,  the Radio Shack Double
 Bowtie UHF antenna worked much better than any other I tried (it's
 available in their catalog, but not in stores without a special order.
  It's less than $20).

For what it's worth, HDTV signals are only broadcast on UHF so if you
only want to receive HDTV,  you may as well just get a UHF antenna.
-- 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myth Plus ?

2005-07-20 Thread Kyle Kelly


John Clabaugh wrote:

I know this may go against the philosophy of LxMSuite, but perhaps
there is a second way to generate funds.  For those that don't really
need the enhanced listings (those in other countries), maybe there
could be a one time price per download.  For instance, $xx for a
LxMSuite theme, $yy for a LxMSuite module.  This may encourage those
sitting on the fence to throw some money in the pool.  If a user finds
that they are buying several of the themes/modules and are pleased
with the quality, then perhaps they will jump over into the monthly
fee group.



The only thing holding me back from subscribing is that I can't, they 
don't support Canada.  In light of this I would enjoy being able to 
purchase a theme for a modest fee, I really like the look of Midnight.

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[mythtv-users] Complete and total crash problems :/

2005-07-20 Thread Piers Kittel


Hello all,

Am having big probs with MythTV - when I start mythfrontend, and then 
try to play back a recording, or watch live TV, it utterly crashes my 
computer, and it only started last night.  Before last night, it was 
working just fine.  Only major thing I've done is to upgrade Debian 
Sarge to Etch but I have not upgraded the kernel (2.4.27, compiled 20th 
Aug last year, always worked fine with all MythTV versions I've used), 
not upgraded the video drivers, not changed window manager, not touched 
the backend/frontend or anything.  When it crashes, the computer just 
locks up, I can't use the mouse pointer, and on my 2nd monitor, the CPU 
and network display just freezes and the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock LED 
comes on my keyboard (on, but doesn't flash) and I'm unable to do 
anything - ctrl_alt_del doesn't work.  As I'm using MythTV from SVN, I 
redownloaded the code, compiled it, found the latest SVN is now using 
protocol version 18, so have upgraded the backend as well.  Still the 
same problem.  The crash occurs with any recordings I've made.


I'm totally unable to get any error codes, as when it crashes, the 
computer is unresponsive and so I'm unable to look at error codes.  I've 
tried using mythfrontend  error but it doesn't work.  I've tried 
starting playback and then immediately pressing ctrl_alt+F1 and it 
changes into the console fine, and I wait a long while and it doesn't 
crash, but when I press ctrl_alt+F7, I get a screen of gibberish text 
and it's a total lock up.


I've found that if I start MythTV, start playing back a recording then 
immediately go to console number 1, then type in /etc/init.d/gdm 
restart it works fine.


What can be causing this, and how do I get MythTV to output the errors 
properly?  Nothing else has been affected in any way.


Thanks very much for your help in advance

Regards - Piers
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Re: [mythtv-users] OpenGL vsync

If it's not in the list of GLX extensions reported,
then the driver doesn't support it.  In that case, it
needs to be added to the Unichrome driver.

Whether or not the Unichrome hardware supports it, I
don't know.

This is why when I wrote the description text for the
OpenGL VSync option in mythfrontend, I explicitly
stated that it may not work with all video card/driver
combinations.  It's pretty much only guaranteed to be
semi-reliable with nVidia hardware and nVidia binary
drivers, and nothing else.  :)

-- Joe

--- Asher Schaffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 7/20/05, Tom Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Your driver has not declared OpenGl video sync
 support, so Myth is not
  able to use it. That's what GLX Video Sync
 extension not present is
  trying to tell you.
  
  If your drive did support it then you would see
 GLX_SGI_video_sync in
  the list of GLX extensions that it reported.
  
  Tom
 
 Okay, thanks, that's what I thought, but I couldn't
 find anything
 online about it.  Does anyone know if this just
 isn't implemented in
 the unichrome drivers, or if there is just a problem
 on my machine?
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-500 (MCE?) Firmware

2005-07-20 Thread cythrault

On 7/20/05, John Clabaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm assuming that you are using the audio driver from
 ivtv-firmware-audio-0.0.1-1.at and not the latest from the driver CD.
 
 I tried 0x02040011 last night with ivtv 0.3.6w and got bad video with
 no sound on both tuners.  With 0.3.6o and the latest encoder and audio
 drivers from the CD, I get good video on both tuners and sound on the
 1st tuner.  I think I will try reverting back to the
 ivtv-firmware-audio-0.0.1-1.at audio driver with the 0x02040011
 encoder and see how that goes.  For what it's worth, I'm using FC2
 with kernel-2.6.10-1.771_FC2.  Could this be a kernel issue?

Indeed, my audio firmware comes from ivtv-firmware-audio-0.0.1-1.at.
When you say bad video, does you mean somekind of red-ish static
that fades to black and back again? If so, I had that with the most
recent encoder firmware.

-- 
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Re: [mythtv-users] PVR-500 (MCE?) Firmware

On 7/20/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Indeed, my audio firmware comes from ivtv-firmware-audio-0.0.1-1.at.
 When you say bad video, does you mean somekind of red-ish static
 that fades to black and back again? If so, I had that with the most
 recent encoder firmware.
 
 --
 cyth
 

Bad video = top 90% has a badly syncing picture and bottom 10% has
random blocks of fluorescent green.  I've heard about the red-ish
static issue, but I have yet to experience it myself.
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[mythtv-users] Myth tv ready for FC-4 ?

OK, once again, and right on schedule fc-3 is corrupted beyond anything but 
a full reinstall.
I am wondering since fc-4 had been out for a while I might as well burn the 
cd's and upgrade to the latest.
Is myth fc4 ready, meaning it will install what it's needs to run or will I 
have to recompile a fair bit of code to get a install completed?

Any gotchas to avoid ?

tia 


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Re: [mythtv-users] Cannot change channels with M179

2005-07-20 Thread Joseph A. Caputo

On Wednesday 20 July 2005 0:45, Scott Alfter wrote:
 Are you running into any signal-quality issues, by any chance?  I got 
 one of 
 my M179s running again (this time alongside a PVR-350 and a 
 PVR-250MCE).  
 I'm using the same ivtv version as you, with the kernel (2.6.9) 
 tuner.ko 
 used instead of the one provided with ivtv.  Passing the tuner types 
 (8 for 
 the PVR-250MCE, 2 for the PVR-350 and M179) to ivtv got the tuners on 
 all 
 three cards working.
 
 However, the signal quality on the M179 is still far inferior to the 
 two 
 Hauppauge cards.  The tuner input picks up more RF noise that shows up 
 as 
 various kinds of interference patterns (odd, since the PVR-350 uses 
 the 
 exact same tuner).  I then figured I'd go ahead and use the Hauppauge 
 cards 
 to tune analog cable and plug the digital-cable box into the M179.  
 While 
 the picture quality on the S-video input is good enough, the audio has 
 an 
 unacceptable amount of crackling noise in the background.
 
 Is there anything I can do to get the M179 working better on either 
 the 
 tuner or S-video input, or should I rip it back out and forget about 
 ever 
 getting it working properly with MythTV?
 
 (I've done some composite video capture with the M179 on a WinXP box, 
 and 
 the audio didn't make the crackling noise it does under Linux.  Is 
 ivtv not 
 initializing something on the card properly?)

I don't have  any other cards to compare to, and my TV-out is so crappy 
it's hard to figure out whether any picture problems are introduced by 
the M-179 or the TV-out encoder.  I will say that the quality degrades 
quickly if there's any noise in the incoming signal.  As soon as I have 
some spare time and spare cash I'm going to try out ain Air2PC or 
pcHDTV card, plus get a TV with digital inputs so I can take the TV 
encoder chip out of the equation.

-JAC
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Re: [mythtv-users] HD

On 7/20/05, Ted Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I finally got my pcHDTV3000 running.
 
 1) Although my CPU never gets above like 93% in live tv, i get
 stuttering with the Prebuffering pause message. I tried chmod +s on
 the frontend, moved the pause files location to my fastest disk,
 ensured DMA was on, no dice.
 
 At some point I will buy a new motherboard and CPU I guess. Although I
 would've thought the CPU would be pegged, so I am not totally sure
 that's it. It's an XP 2000+ I believe.

I'm not sure that it's a CPU power issue.   I see this on my MythTV
system I just set up (Athlon64 3200+, NVidia FX5200 with XvMC,
dedicated drive for ringbuf in DMA mode, etc..).   I get the
prebuffering pause messages sporadically.   Sometimes I get stutters
on one channel, but not on others.  At this point, I'm not really
sure what is the trigger for the stuttering.

When my video is running smoothly, I can do many other things on the
system, without impacting the video.   A couple days ago, I had an HD
program playing via Live TV, and was ssh'd into the system and
compiling the Qt libraries.  The video was flawless, no glitches,
pauses, etc..

 2) So I enabled XvMC, which works pretty well. The OSD gets all
 garbled and painted wrong but that is preferable to the stutter. I've
 read that the image is worse with xvmc turned on but it looks pretty
 good to me and it seems stable so far.

I still occasionally get the stutter with XvMC.I don't know about
differences in image quality.
 
 3) I am still fixing the channels, it looks like I wound up with one
 full set with no frequencies but valid xmltvids (from zap2it i guess)
 and another set that must've come from the automatic scan in
 mythtv-setup. hopefully i can merge the two, is that what is supposed
 to happen?

The same thing happened to me.   I ended up modifying MythWeb, to add
the attributes for xmltvid, mplexid, atscsrcid, etc. Then, I
combined the fields into one entry for each channel, with all the
necessary data.   I also used this to add some channels that my cable
system carried without PSIP data, so they were not found in the
channel scan.

 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Myth tv ready for FC-4 ?

2005-07-20 Thread Bryce


On Wed, July 20, 2005 12:36 pm, Todd Bailey said:
 OK, once again, and right on schedule fc-3 is corrupted beyond anything
 but
 a full reinstall.
 I am wondering since fc-4 had been out for a while I might as well burn
 the
 cd's and upgrade to the latest.
 Is myth fc4 ready, meaning it will install what it's needs to run or will
 I
 have to recompile a fair bit of code to get a install completed?
 Any gotchas to avoid ?


I've got to ask, what do you mean by fc-3 being corrupted? I've never in
all my years of working with linux servers and desktops had a machine get
corrupted to the point of needing to re-install, especially any of the FC
releases.  I'm running a fc-2 box that was upgraded from fc-1 as a
server/workstation/hack  test/you-name-it machine. I've used yum and
apt-get, switched repositories, added stuff from source, etc. and it's
perfectly stable (up 130+ days now with heavy usage). The only reason I'm
even considering a re-install or upgrade is due to fc-2 moving into legacy
status.

-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[mythtv-users] remote recommendation?

2005-07-20 Thread Ricardo Kleemann

Hi,

Rather than using lircd, I wanted to use a wireless keyboard, and have a
remote which then mimics the keystrokes.

Does anyone have recommendations for a setup like this?

Thanks
Ricardo

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Re: [mythtv-users] IP TV support on the agenda?

2005-07-20 Thread Joseph A. Caputo

On Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:22, Joe Votour wrote:
 I saw an article late last week about Time Warner
 offering IPTV to their customers in San Diego.  It was
 just a duplicate of their regular cable offerings. 
 The big DSL providers (i.e. SBC here in the U.S.) will
 likely be the first ones to offer it, since they don't
 have any analog cable bandwidth to speak of.  (Could
 be that Time Warner is trying to beat SBC to the
 punch.)
 
 IPTV support as a whole is a good thing for the
 industry, but it will definitely have some growing
 pains.  A lot of the existing infrastructure isn't
 designed for the bandwidth and routing that it will
 require.
 
 Nonetheless, it will be nice when it comes in.

Sort of related, CNN is running a story on the possibility of 100 Mbit/s 
ethernet over cable broadband in the market as early as 2006.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/07/20/technology/broadband.reut/index.htm

-JAC
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Re: [mythtv-users] Myth tv ready for FC-4 ?

2005-07-20 Thread Matt Goebel

I've got Mythtv up and running on FC4.  There's nothing special to do...  Setup 
is 100% identical to that of FC3 if you use Jarod's Fedora+Myth howto.
The only special thing I had to do was specify the atrpm-testing branch, 
since when I set things up two weeks ago there weren't any stable rpms. 
Now they all appear to be in stable too.  Check the drivers for your hardware 
and see if those are available.  I have all PVR250's (ivtv).

 OK, once again, and right on schedule fc-3 is corrupted beyond anything but
 a full reinstall.
 I am wondering since fc-4 had been out for a while I might as well burn the
 cd's and upgrade to the latest.
 Is myth fc4 ready, meaning it will install what it's needs to run or will I
 have to recompile a fair bit of code to get a install completed?
 Any gotchas to avoid ?

 tia

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[mythtv-users] mythfrontend configuration - where is it stored?

2005-07-20 Thread Mark Knecht

Hi,
   I haven't found documentation on this item. Where is configuration
info for a specific mythfrontend-only box stored? For instance, there
is an option where I can enter a command string to execute when
shutting down. After I enter that string, where is it stored?

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [mythtv-users] Myth tv ready for FC-4 ?

I can't say exactly why I am having as many issues FC3 as I have,  FC1 and 
FC2 were quite stable for me as were RH 7, 8, and 9.
But of all the Redhat products I've used in the past FC3 has been a real 
problem child for me.
Perhaps I should revert to RH 8 or 9.  While I can't exactly say myth is a 
mission critical system, I would like to have 95% up time.
I only have tried to install myth on FC3 which is pretty much where the 
problems began.
It could be that I have a knack for breaking things, I do after all have 
several years of software testing experience.
Or it could be that the installation guides have a bit ambiguity contained 
in them.
Or it could be that FC-x and myth are not fully developed and bug free 
systems.
Then again if could be any combination of the above. But probably most 
likely is operator error.


In any event, the current install is highly unstable and instead of spending 
days researching the issues, the path of lesser resistance and time spent is 
a reformat or partition and install of the OS.


The question remains, fc3 or fc4 for myth?

I'm opting for fc4.

- Original Message - 
From: Bryce [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Myth tv ready for FC-4 ?




On Wed, July 20, 2005 12:36 pm, Todd Bailey said:

OK, once again, and right on schedule fc-3 is corrupted beyond anything
but
a full reinstall.
I am wondering since fc-4 had been out for a while I might as well burn
the
cd's and upgrade to the latest.
Is myth fc4 ready, meaning it will install what it's needs to run or will
I
have to recompile a fair bit of code to get a install completed?
Any gotchas to avoid ?



I've got to ask, what do you mean by fc-3 being corrupted? I've never in
all my years of working with linux servers and desktops had a machine get
corrupted to the point of needing to re-install, especially any of the FC
releases.  I'm running a fc-2 box that was upgraded from fc-1 as a
server/workstation/hack  test/you-name-it machine. I've used yum and
apt-get, switched repositories, added stuff from source, etc. and it's
perfectly stable (up 130+ days now with heavy usage). The only reason I'm
even considering a re-install or upgrade is due to fc-2 moving into legacy
status.

--
Bryce T. Pier
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend configuration - where is it stored?

look in the database mysql.

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:23 AM
Subject: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend configuration - where is it stored?

Hi,
  I haven't found documentation on this item. Where is configuration
info for a specific mythfrontend-only box stored? For instance, there
is an option where I can enter a command string to execute when
shutting down. After I enter that string, where is it stored?

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [mythtv-users] Myth tv ready for FC-4 ?

thanks,

I'll give it a try

- Original Message - 
From: Matt Goebel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Myth tv ready for FC-4 ?

I've got Mythtv up and running on FC4.  There's nothing special to do... 
Setup is 100% identical to that of FC3 if you use Jarod's Fedora+Myth 
howto.
The only special thing I had to do was specify the atrpm-testing branch, 
since when I set things up two weeks ago there weren't any stable rpms.
Now they all appear to be in stable too.  Check the drivers for your 
hardware and see if those are available.  I have all PVR250's (ivtv).

OK, once again, and right on schedule fc-3 is corrupted beyond anything 
but

a full reinstall.
I am wondering since fc-4 had been out for a while I might as well burn 
the

cd's and upgrade to the latest.
Is myth fc4 ready, meaning it will install what it's needs to run or will 
I

have to recompile a fair bit of code to get a install completed?
Any gotchas to avoid ?

tia

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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend configuration - where is it stored?

2005-07-20 Thread Mark Knecht

Todd,
   The database mysql would be on the backend machine, correct?

   Are you telling me that when a backend goes down the frontend-only
machine loses access to the one command it needs to shut itself off
safely? If so that would be quite disappointing.

Thanks,
Mark

On 7/20/05, Todd Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 look in the database mysql.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org
 Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:23 AM
 Subject: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend configuration - where is it stored?
 
 
 Hi,
I haven't found documentation on this item. Where is configuration
 info for a specific mythfrontend-only box stored? For instance, there
 is an option where I can enter a command string to execute when
 shutting down. After I enter that string, where is it stored?
 
 Thanks,
 Mark
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Re: [mythtv-users] transcode support in mythplugins restored

2005-07-20 Thread jonr




Axel Thimm wrote:



The packages in stable have transcode support again (untested).



Any chance of an i386 rpm of this also? Maybe I am dense but I can't 
seem to install or rebuild the src.rpm file.


Maybe I should have mentioned which distro. The i386 rpm for FC2 or is 
that not going to happen?



Jon
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend configuration - where is it stored?

2005-07-20 Thread Phill Wiggin


Mark,
  
   I believe all of the myth-specific information (typed into the myth 
interface) is indeed stored on your backend server only.   If the 
backend were to go down, the frontend would lose connection and could 
not retrieve that configuration.  However, I assume (and this may be 
wrong) that the myth frontend retrieves all of it's important 
configuration data on startup.  As long as this is actually the case, it 
would still know when and how to execute that shutdown statement even if 
the backend dies.  If you were to bring up the frontend without the 
backend online, it couldn't retrieve its configuration information to 
begin with.  (Someone pelase correct me if I've got this situation 
wrong, thanks.)


   Just for clarification, the configuration of Myth frontends is in 
one of the tables in the mythconverg database (not the mysql database, 
that holds mysql specific stuff) that is accessed through the mysql 
server. 


--Phill W.

Mark Knecht wrote:


Todd,
  The database mysql would be on the backend machine, correct?

  Are you telling me that when a backend goes down the frontend-only
machine loses access to the one command it needs to shut itself off
safely? If so that would be quite disappointing.

Thanks,
Mark

On 7/20/05, Todd Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


look in the database mysql.


- Original Message -
From: Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:23 AM
Subject: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend configuration - where is it stored?


Hi,
  I haven't found documentation on this item. Where is configuration
info for a specific mythfrontend-only box stored? For instance, there
is an option where I can enter a command string to execute when
shutting down. After I enter that string, where is it stored?

Thanks,
Mark
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[mythtv-users] Mythphone: using speex echo cancellation ?

2005-07-20 Thread Robert Rozman


Hi,

I must admit I'm not running mythphone at the moment (BTW, is anyone 
releasing binaries for Debian Sarge ? - 0.17 seems the newest released), but 
am interested in using it as video phone. It would be most convenient if 
microphone on USB camera and speakers could be used for calling friends 
(like handsfree phone), but I wonder if Mythphone is capable of that ?


Also, there seems good echo cancelation feature is now built in into speex 
(from 1.0.9). Is Mythphone using it?


 I remember that author of mythphone was looking for decent echo 
cancellation code



Thanks in advance,

regards,

Rob.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Indoor OTA HDTV Antenna Recommendations

2005-07-20 Thread Michael J. Lynch


Robert Kulagowski wrote:



For what it's worth, HDTV signals are only broadcast on UHF so if you
only want to receive HDTV,  you may as well just get a UHF antenna.



That's not correct.  CBS in Chicago is broadcasting HDTV on VHF.


Same here.  PBS is broadcast on channel 9.

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[mythtv-users] No sound in Mythmusic or Mythvideo

2005-07-20 Thread Oscar Curero

Hi,

How do I need to configure mythmusic and mythvideo to get sound on my tv?
I have sound in LiveTv and recordings, but although I can hear the sound on 
the speakers-OUT of my soundcard, I have no sound in the TV. 
-- 
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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Indoor OTA HDTV Antenna Recommendations

2005-07-20 Thread Robert Johnston

On 20/07/05, Michael J. Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Robert Kulagowski wrote:
 
  For what it's worth, HDTV signals are only broadcast on UHF so if you
  only want to receive HDTV,  you may as well just get a UHF antenna.
 
 
  That's not correct.  CBS in Chicago is broadcasting HDTV on VHF.
 
 Same here.  PBS is broadcast on channel 9.

Erm... Just in case you didn't know, VHF is the same frequency range
as FM Radio. TV is (Usually) on UHF, even OTA.
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend configuration - where is it stored?

2005-07-20 Thread Mark Knecht

Phill,
   What you're telling me makes sense, if I were a programmer...

   What disappoints me about this answer is that I want to ship two
new frontend machines to my parents. Up until this little roadblock
all I needed to edit in their config to put the machines on their
network is the info in the .mythtv/mysql.txt file to point to their
backend server and the machines should come up and see the backend.
This will allow them to watch programs and use the machine, but they
won't be able to shut the machines off as they won't have access to
this one command. Since these machines have no keyboards, they cannot
type in the command themselves. Fixing this means getting remote
access to their network through ssh, which I have, so it can be fixed.
(I thinkbut it may be a bit difficult...)

   I guess it's just but it seems ths command would be better located
in the mysql.txt file. I personally don't see the need for the server
to know anything about this, but I'm probably missing something
obvious that the developers know.

   Overall this use of the main database server for a lot of this
config data (like themes, etc.) is a bit disappointing, but that's
life sometimes.

Thanks,
Mark

On 7/20/05, Phill Wiggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark,
 
 I believe all of the myth-specific information (typed into the myth
 interface) is indeed stored on your backend server only.   If the
 backend were to go down, the frontend would lose connection and could
 not retrieve that configuration.  However, I assume (and this may be
 wrong) that the myth frontend retrieves all of it's important
 configuration data on startup.  As long as this is actually the case, it
 would still know when and how to execute that shutdown statement even if
 the backend dies.  If you were to bring up the frontend without the
 backend online, it couldn't retrieve its configuration information to
 begin with.  (Someone pelase correct me if I've got this situation
 wrong, thanks.)
 
 Just for clarification, the configuration of Myth frontends is in
 one of the tables in the mythconverg database (not the mysql database,
 that holds mysql specific stuff) that is accessed through the mysql
 server.
 
 --Phill W.
 
 Mark Knecht wrote:
 
 Todd,
The database mysql would be on the backend machine, correct?
 
Are you telling me that when a backend goes down the frontend-only
 machine loses access to the one command it needs to shut itself off
 safely? If so that would be quite disappointing.
 
 Thanks,
 Mark
 
 On 7/20/05, Todd Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 look in the database mysql.
 
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:23 AM
 Subject: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend configuration - where is it stored?
 
 
 Hi,
I haven't found documentation on this item. Where is configuration
 info for a specific mythfrontend-only box stored? For instance, there
 is an option where I can enter a command string to execute when
 shutting down. After I enter that string, where is it stored?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [mythtv-users] hdparm was: MythShyte

2005-07-20 Thread gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman)


Gavin Haslett wrote:

hdparm -c1 -d1 -u1 /dev/hdb


also, look into the -X argument ... that way, you can tell your machine 
to use UDMA5 instead of, say, UDMA2, to increase performance ... google 
for hdparm ... there is TONS of information on it online


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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Indoor OTA HDTV Antenna Recommendations

2005-07-20 Thread Lane Schwartz

On 7/20/05, Robert Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Erm... Just in case you didn't know, VHF is the same frequency range
 as FM Radio. TV is (Usually) on UHF, even OTA.

I think this varies depending on where you live.

For example, in Des Moines ABC, NBC, CBS, and PBS are all VHF. Fox and
the relatively new UPN station are UHF.

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Re: [mythtv-users] remote recommendation?

2005-07-20 Thread MagicITX

On 7/20/05, Ricardo Kleemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Rather than using lircd, I wanted to use a wireless keyboard, and have a
 remote which then mimics the keystrokes.
 
 Does anyone have recommendations for a setup like this?
 
 Thanks
 Ricardo
 
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If you don't want to buy the remote the jp1 program is available in
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Anyone tried MPEG2 to MPEG2 transcoding?

2005-07-20 Thread Andrew Close

On 7/20/05, Phill Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip/
 Just an update on this for future reference. It appears that the
 transcoding from MPEG2 to MPEG2 is now wokring. I'm no longer getting
 jobs showing up as failed in the system status screen, and the files
 are being transcoded to a smaller size. I have no idea why they were
 failing before. Even though the files are a lot smaller, the quality
 of them is still great so I'm very pleased with this outcome. As an
 example a 2.28GB file transcoded to a 0.982 GB file which was good
 quality.

Phil,

would you mind sharing the settings you have for mpeg2 to mpeg2
transcode?  did this cut the commercials out for you (assuming you had
a cutlist or ran commercial flagging)?
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Re: [mythtv-users] N00b question about video playback

2005-07-20 Thread chris

On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 09:26:30AM -0400, Erich Beckmann wrote:
   When I try to playback a lot of my movie files, the playback is very 
 jerky. Is there somewhere I can look to tweak the settings of Mplayer to 
 get the playback to be smoother? OR What is the recommended way to go 
 about configuring the string to launch Mplayer?

You should probably start by clearly identifying the bottleneck.  The 
big four on a MythTV system will be hard drive speed (transfer rate, 
DMA), network speed (on split front/back systems), video output limits 
and CPU usage.

For example, instead of running TV capture and playback at full screen 
sizes on high resolution, make sure the recorder is idle and then do a 
playback into a 320x200 window.  If the playback stops stuttering then 
your hard drive and/or network are keeping up and the problem is in 
computation.  If it still stutters then you have a transport problem.

Of course the resolution of the display also plays a role, but the 
difference can sometimes be counter-intuitive.  One of my front-end 
machines uses an LCD display rather than TV-out.  On that machine I get 
*far* better performance if I run MythTV at 1280x1024 resolution than 
at 640x480 resolution.  I assume this is because the LCD has to display 
at its native resolution no matter what the computer generates, and the 
video card's hardware accelleration is more efficient at scaling the 
image than the LCD is.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OT: Indoor OTA HDTV Antenna Recommendations

2005-07-20 Thread Joseph A. Caputo

On Wednesday 20 July 2005 14:49, Robert Johnston wrote:
 On 20/07/05, Michael J. Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Robert Kulagowski wrote:
  
   For what it's worth, HDTV signals are only broadcast on UHF so if 
you
   only want to receive HDTV,  you may as well just get a UHF 
antenna.
  
  
   That's not correct.  CBS in Chicago is broadcasting HDTV on VHF.
  
  Same here.  PBS is broadcast on channel 9.
 
 Erm... Just in case you didn't know, VHF is the same frequency range
 as FM Radio. TV is (Usually) on UHF, even OTA.

Better clarify that.  OTA TV channels 2-13 are VHF (in the USA, anyway).  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VHF

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Re: [mythtv-users] remote recommendation?

2005-07-20 Thread A JM

I'm currently using this configuration and works great. I was able to
program my JP1 remote with Tim's file and everything is working quite
nicely.

Thanks Tim.

AJM,

On 7/20/05, MagicITX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 7/20/05, Ricardo Kleemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Rather than using lircd, I wanted to use a wireless keyboard, and have a
  remote which then mimics the keystrokes.
 
  Does anyone have recommendations for a setup like this?
 
  Thanks
  Ricardo
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] N00b question about video playback

2005-07-20 Thread Erich Beckmann


All,

   Well. I think I might have identified part of the problem. I had a 
very minimal make.conf, specifically the USE variable.
I am now recompiling everything from X back up to mplayer with stuff 
like nvidia turned on and a bunch of codec stuff. I assume this will 
make a noticeable difference.
   I just can't believe that a card and processor that I used to play 
movies on three years ago can't handle the same encoding, especially at 
a resolution of 640x480.


   After I get this squared away, I think the next task is going to be 
tuning the output to the TV so it's not so hard to look at it without 
getting a migraine.


   Ongoing thanks to everyone who has been helping.

Sincerely,
Erich



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On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 09:26:30AM -0400, Erich Beckmann wrote:
 

 When I try to playback a lot of my movie files, the playback is very 
jerky. Is there somewhere I can look to tweak the settings of Mplayer to 
get the playback to be smoother? OR What is the recommended way to go 
about configuring the string to launch Mplayer?
   



You should probably start by clearly identifying the bottleneck.  The 
big four on a MythTV system will be hard drive speed (transfer rate, 
DMA), network speed (on split front/back systems), video output limits 
and CPU usage.


For example, instead of running TV capture and playback at full screen 
sizes on high resolution, make sure the recorder is idle and then do a 
playback into a 320x200 window.  If the playback stops stuttering then 
your hard drive and/or network are keeping up and the problem is in 
computation.  If it still stutters then you have a transport problem.


Of course the resolution of the display also plays a role, but the 
difference can sometimes be counter-intuitive.  One of my front-end 
machines uses an LCD display rather than TV-out.  On that machine I get 
*far* better performance if I run MythTV at 1280x1024 resolution than 
at 640x480 resolution.  I assume this is because the LCD has to display 
at its native resolution no matter what the computer generates, and the 
video card's hardware accelleration is more efficient at scaling the 
image than the LCD is.


 




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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myth Plus ?

2005-07-20 Thread Peter Dash

 The only thing holding me back from subscribing is that I can't, they
 don't support Canada.  In light of this I would enjoy being able to
 purchase a theme for a modest fee, I really like the look of Midnight.

I'm in a similar position - being in the UK I obviously can't use the
guide info, but I would be willing to pay a modest amount to get acess
to the themes and whatever modules come out of the project. I'm sure
I'm not the only one either.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myth Plus ?

2005-07-20 Thread Stef Coene

On Wednesday 20 July 2005 22:57, Peter Dash wrote:
  The only thing holding me back from subscribing is that I can't, they
  don't support Canada.  In light of this I would enjoy being able to
  purchase a theme for a modest fee, I really like the look of Midnight.

 I'm in a similar position - being in the UK I obviously can't use the
 guide info, but I would be willing to pay a modest amount to get acess
 to the themes and whatever modules come out of the project. I'm sure
 I'm not the only one either.
Me too, they should realise that there are other countries that has 
television, like Belgium ;)
And yes, some people are willing to pay for extra stuff, but only if they can 
use it.  Like me.

Stef
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recommendations: Case/Motherboard

2005-07-20 Thread Big Wave Dave

On 6/11/05, PAUL WILLIAMSON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey!  That's the exact same case I have for a new FE/BE I'm building
 as we speak!  Picked up a fairly cheap mobo (Asus P4P800 SE),
 a Celeron 2.6, a Zalman cpu cooler and a silent PSU and 1gb dual
 DDR ram.  I've got a PVR-250 and a PVR-150 ready to go into
 this box as well.  Firewire might be on option when I get an
 HD receiver...

How did this motherboard end up working for you?

Thanks,
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Re: [mythtv-users] Myth tv ready for FC-4 ?

2005-07-20 Thread Matt Goebel

Where are you getting that GCC 4.0 is supposed to produce code that performs 
below that produced by gcc 3.4?  GCC 4.0 is a lot faster in
everything else so why would Myth be any different?  Unless maybe there's some 
issue I'm not aware of?  To me I don't see and difference between FC3
and FC4, it's identical as far as Mythtv goes.  I haven't tried transcoding or 
anything like that yet.  Other then that all my other FC4 systems
seem MUCH faster... (no actual benchmarks)


 Do Fedora Core 4 users notice any difference in decoding performance
 (especially for HD material)?   I believe they jumped to gcc 4.0 in
 FC4, which is supposed to produce code that performs below that
 produced by gcc 3.4.

 Bonus points:  How about FC3/FC4 differences in x86-64 systems?

 On 7/20/05, Todd Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 thanks,

 I'll give it a try

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:09 AM
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  I've got Mythtv up and running on FC4.  There's nothing special to do...
  Setup is 100% identical to that of FC3 if you use Jarod's Fedora+Myth
  howto.
  The only special thing I had to do was specify the atrpm-testing branch,
  since when I set things up two weeks ago there weren't any stable rpms.
  Now they all appear to be in stable too.  Check the drivers for your
  hardware and see if those are available.  I have all PVR250's (ivtv).
 
  OK, once again, and right on schedule fc-3 is corrupted beyond anything
  but
  a full reinstall.
  I am wondering since fc-4 had been out for a while I might as well burn
  the
  cd's and upgrade to the latest.
  Is myth fc4 ready, meaning it will install what it's needs to run or will
  I
  have to recompile a fair bit of code to get a install completed?
  Any gotchas to avoid ?
 
  tia
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Myth tv ready for FC-4 ?

2005-07-20 Thread Jamie Dobbs

 Where are you getting that GCC 4.0 is supposed to produce code that
 performs below that produced by gcc 3.4?  GCC 4.0 is a lot faster in
 everything else so why would Myth be any different?  Unless maybe there's
 some issue I'm not aware of?  To me I don't see and difference between FC3
 and FC4, it's identical as far as Mythtv goes.  I haven't tried
 transcoding or anything like that yet.  Other then that all my other FC4
 systems
 seem MUCH faster... (no actual benchmarks)

I haven't had any success in getting MythTV to install under FC4 (using
Jarods guide), can anyone offer any advice?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Myth tv ready for FC-4 ?

2005-07-20 Thread Monkey Pet

I upgraded from fc2-fc3-fc4 without any major problems.  Haven't
lost my shows yet, knock on wood.

On 7/20/05, Todd Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, once again, and right on schedule fc-3 is corrupted beyond anything but
 a full reinstall.
 I am wondering since fc-4 had been out for a while I might as well burn the
 cd's and upgrade to the latest.
 Is myth fc4 ready, meaning it will install what it's needs to run or will I
 have to recompile a fair bit of code to get a install completed?
 Any gotchas to avoid ?
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Myth tv ready for FC-4 ?

2005-07-20 Thread Nick Rout


On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:27:54 -0700
Todd Bailey wrote:

 The question remains, fc3 or fc4 for myth?

If FC2 worked for you then that is the answer.

personally i never go far away from gentoo.


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[mythtv-users] Widescreen TV thumbnail view in program guide is not centered

I am receiving HDTV channels in my MythTV system (tried both 0.18 and svn).  

When I go to the program guide, while viewing live TV, the small
window showing the current program does not properly display 16:9
video most of the time.  Most of the time, the video is shifted to the
right, cutting off much of the image.

I think it worked correctly at least part of the time when I first set
it up.  But, now it always shows up distorted.

Is there some setting I'm missing?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Myth Plus ?

2005-07-20 Thread Dave Alden

Hi,

On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:10:26PM +0200, Stef Coene wrote:
 On Wednesday 20 July 2005 22:57, Peter Dash wrote:
   The only thing holding me back from subscribing is that I can't, they
   don't support Canada.  In light of this I would enjoy being able to
   purchase a theme for a modest fee, I really like the look of Midnight.
 
  I'm in a similar position - being in the UK I obviously can't use the
  guide info, but I would be willing to pay a modest amount to get acess
  to the themes and whatever modules come out of the project. I'm sure
  I'm not the only one either.
 Me too, they should realise that there are other countries that has 
 television, like Belgium ;)
 And yes, some people are willing to pay for extra stuff, but only if they can 
 use it.  Like me.

Keep in mind that the listings that subscribers get (yes, I'm a subscriber)
currently aren't any better than what you can get for free.  I payed my $30
just to help fund improvements in areas that the current developers aren't
interested in (or don't have the time to implement).  Sadly, the Ideas forum
on the website hasn't seemed to generate much discussion (no one has replied
to my suggestion :).

...dave

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Re: [mythtv-users] Widescreen TV thumbnail view in program guide is not centered

On 7/20/05, Todd Ignasiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am receiving HDTV channels in my MythTV system (tried both 0.18 and svn).
 
 When I go to the program guide, while viewing live TV, the small
 window showing the current program does not properly display 16:9
 video most of the time.  Most of the time, the video is shifted to the
 right, cutting off much of the image.
 
 I think it worked correctly at least part of the time when I first set
 it up.  But, now it always shows up distorted.
 
 Is there some setting I'm missing?
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[mythtv-users] Aopen XCcube as Myth front end

2005-07-20 Thread David Maher

Has anyone out there set up an Aopen XCcube as a myth front end? I am in
the process of doing this with FC4 and would appreciate any tips for the
remote etc.

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[mythtv-users] Aopen XCcube as frontend

2005-07-20 Thread David Maher

Has anyone out there set up an Aopen XCcube as a myth front end? I am in
the process of doing this with FC4 and would appreciate any tips for the
remote etc.

Regards

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Re: [mythtv-users] Widescreen TV thumbnail view in program guide is not centered

I initially used the default theme.  Then, I switched to Minimalist-wide.


On 7/20/05, John Clabaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 7/20/05, Todd Ignasiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am receiving HDTV channels in my MythTV system (tried both 0.18 and svn).
 
  When I go to the program guide, while viewing live TV, the small
  window showing the current program does not properly display 16:9
  video most of the time.  Most of the time, the video is shifted to the
  right, cutting off much of the image.
 
  I think it worked correctly at least part of the time when I first set
  it up.  But, now it always shows up distorted.
 
  Is there some setting I'm missing?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Widescreen TV thumbnail view in program guide is not centered

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 I initially used the default theme.  Then, I switched to Minimalist-wide.
 
 
 On 7/20/05, John Clabaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 7/20/05, Todd Ignasiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I am receiving HDTV channels in my MythTV system (tried both 0.18 and 
   svn).
  
   When I go to the program guide, while viewing live TV, the small
   window showing the current program does not properly display 16:9
   video most of the time.  Most of the time, the video is shifted to the
   right, cutting off much of the image.
  
   I think it worked correctly at least part of the time when I first set
   it up.  But, now it always shows up distorted.
  
   Is there some setting I'm missing?
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Minimalist-wide theme.  If you want, you can grab the latest version
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Re: [mythtv-users] hdparm was: MythShyte

2005-07-20 Thread Gavin Haslett

Bear in mind that I also tried -X34 as I found online, and
occasionally it made my drives inaccessible. Hence why I dry ran with
my drives before I made them production. That might be a failing of
the Via chipset on my board, but I don't know for sure. Your mileage may
vary :)

On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 14:02 -0500, gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman) wrote:
 Gavin Haslett wrote:
  hdparm -c1 -d1 -u1 /dev/hdb
 
 also, look into the -X argument ... that way, you can tell your machine 
 to use UDMA5 instead of, say, UDMA2, to increase performance ... google 
 for hdparm ... there is TONS of information on it online
 
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[mythtv-users] Re: transcode support in mythplugins restored

2005-07-20 Thread Axel Thimm

On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 10:34:03AM -0800, jonr wrote:
 
 Axel Thimm wrote:
 
 The packages in stable have transcode support again (untested).
 
 
 Any chance of an i386 rpm of this also? Maybe I am dense but I can't 
 seem to install or rebuild the src.rpm file.
 
 Maybe I should have mentioned which distro. The i386 rpm for FC2 or is 
 that not going to happen?

Out of all 14 distros supported two won't allow for building
transcode: FC2/i386 and RHEL4/i386. It's strange that the x86_64 build
succeeds.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Widescreen TV thumbnail view in program guide is not centered

Thanks.I am using the svn version from a few days ago, but I'll
grab the latest now.

On 7/20/05, John Clabaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 7/20/05, Todd Ignasiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I initially used the default theme.  Then, I switched to Minimalist-wide.
 
 
  On 7/20/05, John Clabaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 7/20/05, Todd Ignasiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am receiving HDTV channels in my MythTV system (tried both 0.18 and 
svn).
   
When I go to the program guide, while viewing live TV, the small
window showing the current program does not properly display 16:9
video most of the time.  Most of the time, the video is shifted to the
right, cutting off much of the image.
   
I think it worked correctly at least part of the time when I first set
it up.  But, now it always shows up distorted.
   
Is there some setting I'm missing?
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 Minimalist-wide theme.  If you want, you can grab the latest version
 from svn to try it out.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Widescreen TV thumbnail view in program guide is not centered