from:"Chris"

You could try reducing your color depth. I have an older NVidia
card that didn't work well for HDTV, but I was able to get it working
by changing the color depth from Millions of Colors to Thousands of
Colors in the Display Settings. On 1/28/06, Jerry Rubinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/28/06, Kevin Kuphal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry Rubinow wrote:  I'm running myth with separate front/back end computers.The frontend  is a 
2.8GHz P4 with 512MB ram, trying to display 720p HD, but I'm  maxing out the CPU - myth ~65+%, X around 30+%.The video is at times  choppy when there's a lot of stuff changing in the frame.What can I
  do to reduce CPU usage?   Here's what I've done so far:  -compiled myth with --enable-proc-opt (using SVN from less than a week ago)  -using ratpoison for window manager
  -not using any deinterlacing   Note: XvMC is not an option.   I'm running FC4.   mythfrontend -v playback reports that it's using Xvideo, format I420,
  using realtime priority, video timing method: RTC (glx vsync not  supported in my driver).Then I get a lot of video ahead of audio  dropping frames messages, and then a lot of audio ahead of video
  messages.   /proc/meminfo says there's 100MB free while running myth, so I guess  it's not swapping.   What might be causing the high CPU?I've read about people with
  2.4Ghz P4s not having a problem with HD, so it seems like there should  be something I can do.Would compiling my own kernel help?With what  options?Anything else I can try first?
  Try using libmpeg2 for your playback.I'd suggest looking into hyperthreading support in your kernel to see if it is enabled.I believe this means using an SMP kernel.I'm not sure if that will make
 a difference but it might.And lastly, your video card and drivers do help alot.I've struggled with my choice of ATI on one of my frontends and as I'm moving to HD, I'm biting the bullet and spending the $40 on
 an Nvidia FX card and it will be one of the best $40 I've spent on my system as it means HD playback on my 2.4ghz Celeron with XvMC. KevinSorry, I left out that I'm using libmpeg2.Hyperthreading - hmm,
unfortunately I just checked and my CPU doesn't support hyperthreading(it's a 533MHz bus 2.8GHz P4).I tried going the FX 5200 route, onlyto discover that I I can't achieve the transfer speeds I need over PCI
(my motherboard only has two slots, both PCI).1280x720x(24 or 32)bits, 30 frames a second (or 60, even worse) - PCI's max throughput is600 to 700 Mbits/sec.I tried XvMC on the 5200 but it was always abit glitchy.The onboard graphics is AGP, but now instead of being
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Re: [mythtv-users] We may have a couple a good guys....

To paraphrase a certain dead grunge idol:

Just because they're paranoid, don't mean they're not after them.On 1/28/06, Brad DerManouelian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 deserve some praise. Thanks for the link! On 1/27/06, Mark H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found this link on digg. Very good information.Maybe we
 should send our senators ipods. http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/archives/004343.phpFor the record, I've never found 
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Re: [mythtv-users] How to minimize CPU usage

Reducing color depth certainly affects picture quality from a technical
standpoint, but it sounds like you are in a position where you may need
choose the lesser of several picture degrading evils. 

720p is 30 frames/s. 1080i is 60 1920x540 fields/s. Consider
trying out your FX5200 with reduced color depth, the bandwidth needs
should be significant;y reduced. On 1/28/06, Jerry Rubinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/28/06, Kevin Kuphal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry Rubinow wrote:  On 1/28/06, Kevin Kuphal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Jerry Rubinow wrote:   I'm running myth with separate front/back end computers.The frontend  is a 2.8GHz P4 with 512MB ram, trying to display 720p HD, but I'm
  maxing out the CPU - myth ~65+%, X around 30+%.The video is at times  choppy when there's a lot of stuff changing in the frame.What can I  do to reduce CPU usage?
   Here's what I've done so far:  -compiled myth with --enable-proc-opt (using SVN from less than a week ago)  -using ratpoison for window manager
  -not using any deinterlacing   Note: XvMC is not an option.   I'm running FC4.   mythfrontend -v playback reports that it's using Xvideo, format I420,
  using realtime priority, video timing method: RTC (glx vsync not  supported in my driver).Then I get a lot of video ahead of audio  dropping frames messages, and then a lot of audio ahead of video
  messages.   /proc/meminfo says there's 100MB free while running myth, so I guess  it's not swapping.   What might be causing the high CPU?I've read about people with
  2.4Ghz P4s not having a problem with HD, so it seems like there should  be something I can do.Would compiling my own kernel help?With what  options?Anything else I can try first?
Try using libmpeg2 for your playback.I'd suggest looking into  hyperthreading support in your kernel to see if it is enabled.I  believe this means using an SMP kernel.I'm not sure if that will make
  a difference but it might.And lastly, your video card and drivers do  help alot.I've struggled with my choice of ATI on one of my frontends  and as I'm moving to HD, I'm biting the bullet and spending the $40 on
  an Nvidia FX card and it will be one of the best $40 I've spent on my  system as it means HD playback on my 2.4ghz Celeron with XvMC.   Kevin 
   Sorry, I left out that I'm using libmpeg2.Hyperthreading - hmm,  unfortunately I just checked and my CPU doesn't support hyperthreading  (it's a 533MHz bus 2.8GHz P4).I tried going the FX 5200 route, only
  to discover that I I can't achieve the transfer speeds I need over PCI  (my motherboard only has two slots, both PCI).1280x720x(24 or 32)  bits, 30 frames a second (or 60, even worse) - PCI's max throughput is
  600 to 700 Mbits/sec.I tried XvMC on the 5200 but it was always a  bit glitchy.The onboard graphics is AGP, but now instead of being  limited by bus speed, it's by CPU speed.Very frustrating, since it's
  s close to working properly.   Hmm.I'm about to buy an FX5500 PCI for use in my frontend.Are you saying that you can't drive HD content to the PCI card because it is
 PCI, not AGP?I'm using XvMC on my MX440 AGP and it works great with Myth and the 7676 Nvidia drivers on the SVN.You might want to give XvMC with that driver version another shot when 0.19 is released on your
 FX5200.I've found it to be very solid. KevinWhen I was trying to do HD over the PCI FX5200, I consistently hadslowness/skipped frames/stuttering.I eventually did somecalculations, and 720p at 24bits and 30 frames per second is 632
Mbits/sec.I saw in the list archives that PCI's maximum transferspeed ranges between 600-700 Mbits/sec.However, I think 24 bit videois actually using 32 bips per pixels (alpha), and isn't HD refreshing
at 60 frames/sec?So I must not be figuring something right, or elseI wouldn't be getting anything approaching viewable, but I wasactually getting something pretty close, so I'm not entirely surewhat's going on.But in any case, it seems like at a minimum, it's
close to PCI's capacity.As far as XvMC, I have no idea how the bandwidth of what's beingpushed to the card for XvMC compares that of non-XvMC (although Iwould really like to know).I do know I had various problems with
XvMC displaying correctly.Maybe due to bandwidth issues also, but Idon't know.But I will give it another shot at some point before Ithrow in the towel on this computer and relegate it to an SD frontend
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythTV and TV

Just to clear things up, do you have a frontend running on tooth?
How is your current setup different from the one you have been using
successfully for about a year? On 1/28/06, Yan Seiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been using MythTV successfully for about a year...But now I want to watch TV.My setup is as follows:tooth - FC2 mythtv backend, mysql server, file server, and also housesthe WinTV card.
hermes - KnoppMyth box.Mounts files via NFSI got everything set up, as per the docs.I can click on WatchTV onhermes, and I get a mostly green window with a bar of black and colorfuzz at the top.This is the typical thing you see if the TV card is
not set to the correct frequency/channel/standard.After a while, the backend says: Couldn't read data from the capturecard in 15 seconds. Stopping.That wouldn't be so bad, except that a few seconds later it segfaults
(log attached at bottom of this message.)I am in the US, I have everything set to NTSC and so on.I tested the card in another box, and xawtv can pull in channels just fine.The really bad thing is that
I've googled about and it seems that the solution is to manually enterthe frequency tables into mySQL... Before I go that route, I figured I'dask for advice.Any suggestions?I have a pcHDTV coming next week, but I'd really like to have this
figured out by then...===[EMAIL PROTECTED] yan]# /usr/bin/mythbackend -v all2006-01-28 16:29:45.565 New DB connection, total: 1Starting up as the master server.2006-01-28 16:29:
45.582 New DB connection, total: 22006-01-28 16:29:45.595 Channel(/dev/video0):SetFormat(): Probed input:0, name = Television2006-01-28 16:29:45.596 Channel(/dev/video0):SetFormat(): Probed input:1, name = Composite1
2006-01-28 16:29:45.596 Channel(/dev/video0):SetFormat(): Probed input:2, name = S-Video2006-01-28 16:29:45.597 Channel(/dev/video0):SetFormat(): Probed input:3, name = Composite32006-01-28 16:29:45.600
 Channel(/dev/video0)::SwitchToInput(in 0)2006-01-28 16:29:45.603 Channel(/dev/video0)::SwitchToInput() settingvideo mode to NTSC2006-01-28 16:29:45.609 New DB connection, total: 32006-01-28 16:29:45.611 Channel(/dev/video0):SetFormat(): Probed input:
0, name = Television2006-01-28 16:29:45.612 Channel(/dev/video0):SetFormat(): Probed input:1, name = Composite12006-01-28 16:29:45.612 Channel(/dev/video0):SetFormat(): Probed input:2, name = S-Video
2006-01-28 16:29:45.613 Channel(/dev/video0):SetFormat(): Probed input:3, name = Composite32006-01-28 16:29:45.621 Channel(/dev/video0)::TuneTo(7):curList[5].freq(175250)2006-01-28 16:29:45.621 Channel(/dev/video0)::TuneToFrequency(2804)
2006-01-28 16:29:45.630 New DB scheduler connection2006-01-28 16:29:45.635 JobQueue::RecoverQueue: Checking for unfinishedjobs to recover.2006-01-28 16:29:45.636 mythbackend version: 0.18.2.20051227-1
www.mythtv.org2006-01-28 16:29:45.637 Enabled verbose msgs :all2006-01-28 16:29:45.638 New DB connection, total: 42006-01-28 16:29:45.644 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: findJobs searchbitmask 4, found 0 total jobs
2006-01-28 16:29:47.642 Reschedule requested for id -1.Query 0: /record.search = 0 AND (record.recordid = -1 OR -1 = -1) ANDprogram.manualid = 0 AND program.title = record.title2006-01-28 16:29:47.833|-- Start DB Query 0...
2006-01-28 16:29:47.835|-- 0 results in 0.002566 sec.2006-01-28 16:29:47.836+-- Done.2006-01-28 16:29:47.841 PruneOldRecords...2006-01-28 16:29:47.841 AddNewRecords...2006-01-28 16:29:47.842|-- Start DB Query...
2006-01-28 16:29:47.846|-- 0 results in 0.003313 sec. Processing...2006-01-28 16:29:47.846+-- Cleanup...2006-01-28 16:29:47.846 Sort by time...2006-01-28 16:29:47.846 PruneOverlaps...2006-01-28 16:29:
47.847 Sort by priority...2006-01-28 16:29:47.847 BuildListMaps...2006-01-28 16:29:47.847 SchedNewRecords...2006-01-28 16:29:47.847 Scheduling:2006-01-28 16:29:47.847 Sort retrylist...2006-01-28 16:29:
47.847 MoveHigherRecords...2006-01-28 16:29:47.847 Retrying:2006-01-28 16:29:47.847 ClearListMaps...2006-01-28 16:29:47.847 Sort by time...2006-01-28 16:29:47.848 PruneRedundants...--- print list start ---
Title
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SubtitleChan
ChID Day StartEnd S C ITN Pri---print list end---2006-01-28 16:29:47.848 Scheduled 0 items in 0.2 = 0.19 match + 0.01 place2006-01-28 16:29:47.851 Seem to be woken up by USER2006-01-28 16:29:
55.643 JobQueue::RecoverQueue: Checking for unfinishedjobs to recover.2006-01-28 16:29:55.647 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: findJobs searchbitmask 4, found 0 total jobs2006-01-28 16:29:55.648 JobQueue::ProcessQueue() started
2006-01-28 16:29:55.651 JobQueue currently set at 1 job(s) max and torun new jobs from 00:00 to 23:592006-01-28 16:29:55.654 JobQueue::GetJobsInQueue: findJobs searchbitmask 4, found 0 total jobs2006-01-28 16:30:
08.032 13ACCEPT[]:[]152006-01-28 16:30:08.038 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback2006-01-28 16:30:08.038 adding: hermes as a client (events: 0)2006-01-28 16:30:08.038 2 OK2006-01-28 16:30:08.045
 Getting next free recorder after : -12006-01-28 16:30:08.047 Checking card 1.

Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv rebooting system

On the topic of thermal goo, how do I figure out if my P4 is
running at full speed? I've read that the P4 will automatically
slow itself if it gets too hot. Well, how am I to know if this is
happening?

To avoid being laughed off the list, I won't mention what I am
currently using in lieu of thermal goo, but rest assured that it would
get me laughed off the list.

If I can't determine directly whether my processor is throttling itself, can anybody suggest any benchmarks I might try?

To veer back toward the topic, my machine has randomly rebooted a few
times, but not since newegg sent my new power supply. Apparently
you don't need to actually upgrade your power supply, sometimes your
power supply just needs a better one looking over its shoulder.
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cooling.Well I'm 38 years myself last November but I do recall attendance,tests, grades and probably much more were all recorded by punchcard whenI went to high school. It was a behemoth 32xx(?) which occupied 1/3 of a
very small computer room. Another 1/4 of the room was the chiller'sevaporator and blower. No chairs.Learned me some FORTRAN first by punch, then by actual terminals. It wasa microcosm of the back rooms at a major bank back in the day. Years
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv rebooting system

Alright, first of all, I didn't just save a dollar. The cheapest
newegg can hook me up for is $7 shipped, and it wouldn't be here
for at least another 6 days.

Additionally, my system has been running for 3 week and endured several
marathon transode sessions without turning into an expensive key fob.

Of course, whether I found the miracle substitute for thermal grease,
or the smart folks at intel have just managed to save me from myself is
the question I am trying to answer.

It's not like thermal grease needs to be any magic solution to its
job. It just needs to outperform air by an order of magnitude or
so. Well, just about anything meets that criteria.
On 1/28/06, Brian Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jan 28, 2006, at 8:16 PM, Kevin Kuphal wrote: Chris Ribe wrote: On the topic of thermal goo, how do I figure out ifmy P4 is running at full speed?I've read that the P4 will automatically slow itself
if it gets too hot.Well, how am I to know if this is happening? To avoid being laughed off the list, I won't mention what I am currently using in lieu of thermal goo, but rest assured that it
would get me laughed off the list. Let me guess: toothpaste?Actually works good for a period of time but has a tendency to harden.Probably K-Y Jelly.OK, I'll get off this thread right now.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv rebooting system

Brian,
I appreciate the experience and knowledge you bring to the
community, and your I will take your advice to heart, but right now I'm
just trying to find out if I have a problem at all.

There is a certain risk to the equipment involved in pulling my
computer out of the closet it is buried in, pulling the motherboard out
of the computer, removing the heatsink, and putting the whole thing
back together again. I'd rather not go through that process at
this point.

The mystery lube is lithium grease originally intended for use on squeky door hinges. On 1/28/06, Brian Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:On Jan 28, 2006, at 8:31 PM, Chris Ribe wrote: Alright, first of all, I didn't just save a dollar.The cheapest
newegg can hook me up for is $7 shipped, and it wouldn'tbe here for at least another 6 days. Additionally, my system has been running for 3 week and endured several marathon transode sessions without turning into an
expensive key fob. Of course, whether I found the miracle substitute for thermal grease, or the smart folks at intel have just managed to save me from myself is the question I am trying to answer.
It's not like thermal grease needs to be any magic solution to its job.It just needs to outperform air by an order of magnitude or so.Well, just about anything meets that criteria.
Well think that way if you wish, it's not my CPU. You might save evenmore by eliminating the heatsink/fan as well :-)I'm just trying to give you advice gleaned from many decades ofworking in electronics, and save you some grief. I think the subject
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythtv rebooting system

Ad to quote a certain dead grunge rocker for the second time this evening - I like it, I'm not gonna crack On 1/28/06, Chris Ribe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Brian,
I appreciate the experience and knowledge you bring to the
community, and your I will take your advice to heart, but right now I'm
just trying to find out if I have a problem at all.

Well think that way if you wish, it's not my CPU. You might save evenmore by eliminating the heatsink/fan as well :-)I'm just trying to give you advice gleaned from many decades ofworking in electronics, and save you some grief. I think the subject
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Re: [mythtv-users] Play List?

2006-01-28 Thread Chris Pinkham

 Jonathan Smith wrote:
  Is there a way to configure a play list for watching recordings?  I
  record some shows for my kids and would like some shows to play
  consecutively without having select each show manually?

 Yes.  You add shows to the playlist either individually using the INFO 
 menu on an individual show and selecting Add to Playlist or you can add 
 an entire group (title, category, whatever) by pressing MENU on a group 
 and selecting Add this group to playlist.

You can also press the / key to tag and ? to clear the list.  These are
the default bindings for the NEXTFAV and TOGGLEFAV keybindings.  I should
give these their own names sometime to allow them to be independently
configurable.

-- 
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Re: [mythtv-users] How much storage do you have for MythTV?

My PVR-150 records at the default 2.1GB/hr. My TiVo
captures the MPEG-2 stream broadcast by the satellite.

Once upon a time, I had a standalone TiVo with Comcast
cable. It was one (puts pinky to mouth) MILLION times better than
having side by side TVs to watch concurrent baseball games.

I'd take my Myth box over my SA TiVo anyday. I'd say the picture
quality difference between those 2 was negligible, but the Myth box has
never been hooked up to anything other than a computer monitor. The
Tivo was always hooked up to a TV (except for 4.25 glorious snowy hours
that made Adam Vinatieri and The Tuck Rule household names, when it
was hooked up to a DLP front projector).

All that said, DirecTiVo PQ = DirecTV PQ (IMnsHO) Comcast PQ Comcast captured by PVR PQ.
On 1/26/06, Michael T. Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 01/26/2006 09:18 PM, Chad wrote: To keep somewhat on the topic of recording space, my Directv tivo stores about 36 hours of SD programming (at about 1GB/hr), and its quality is vastly superior to what I get get from my Comcast cable and PVR-150.
Is the PVR also set to record at ~1GB/hr too?And at the lower-than-Full-D1 resolution that TiVo uses (TTBOMK, 352x480on basic/medium, 480x480 on high, and 544x480 on best--but I'm guessing
with the file size your talking about, you're talking about basic or atmost medium).If you have a low bitrate and a high resolution, you'll get a terriblepicture.Same with a high bitrate and a low resolution.They need to
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Re: [mythtv-users] FC5 and repodata?

Where are you in the install process?On 1/26/06, Michael Haan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to install FC5 as a precursor to myth, and I'm getting some
error about not being able to find repodata. I'm trying to
install from iso's saved to a secondary HD - anyone, any ideas?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Video Quality

( I can't imagine rewinding beyond 20 or 30 minutes at the most ) 


So your saying you don't have any kids? 



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Re: [mythtv-users] Video Quality

FWIW, 6600 Kb(B?)ps seems like a rediculously high bit(byte?)rate. I'm no expert on the matter, however.On 1/27/06, Chris Ribe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:( I can't imagine rewinding beyond 20 or 30 minutes at the most ) 



So your saying you don't have any kids? 





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Re: [mythtv-users] [Bulk] Re: Broadcast flag and a kick in the teeth

Not on gmail you don't. Yours is the last of 16 posts.On 1/27/06, Peter Darley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [mythtv-users] Sports events, LiveTV or Watch Recording?

With regards to the football game situation, there IS a right answer.
(please forgive the use of caps for emphasis) If a tuner wants to
record two different things that are on the SAME CHANNEL at the
SAME TIME, myth should record the overlapping portion once and
graft it onto both .nuvs. I understand that this is not a trivial
thing to implement, but it is the kick-me-in-the-head obvious solution
to the problem.

I'd like to think that mythtv is smart, but a program that sits there
and says I can't record this because I'm busy recording this is just
dumb.On 1/27/06, Bruce Markey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greg Woods wrote: On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 14:54 -0500, Michael T. Dean wrote: if you have one capture card and want to record a show on channel 3 from 7:00 to 9:00 with a recording-rule specified extra 15
minutes on the end and a show on the same channel from 9:00 to 10:00, one will conflict with the other--you've said the 7:00 to 9:00 show is actually airing between 7:00 and 9:15.Therefore, you would need a
second capture card to get the 9:00 to 9:15 show. OK, that explains it. I've got a PVR-500, with two tuners, and this type of conflict occurs when I am also recording another game on a different
channel. Now for the overlap period I am trying to record three things with two tuners: the first game's extension, the second game on the same channel, and a third game on a different channel. It would be nice if it
figured out that the first extension isn't needed because the second recording will be recording that channel anyway, but it isn't quite that smart yet, so I end up having to manually remove the extension for the
first game to resolve the conflict.Understood. No question about what you are asking. However, thisfalls into what I call 'mind reading'. The scheduler faithfullyacts on the information that you have given. It can't second guess
that information because there's at least half a chance that secondguessing will do the wrong thing.For a poor but real example, back before version, say 0.8, we hadduplicate matching but Single was not treated as an exception. If
you chose something to Single record, it might see 'oh, he's recordedit before. I know he doesn't really need to record this again. I'llhelp him out with his amnesia 8-) This has been changed to Single
record 'cause I said so, damn it!.In http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-12.html I try to conveythat the scheduler is a tool kit where you are empowered to tell it
exactly what you want. The problem comes up when someone tells thescheduler some things to do, sees that the result isn't exactlywant they want, then wishes the scheduler would have read theirmind rather than using the tools to give it more information to
express exactly what they want.For any sort of algorithm proposed to second guess a specificsituation, there is an opposite example where that exceptionaldecision would do exactly the wrong thing.
If you had three cards, it could record all of them but with two,you have to decide what to do at the start of the second game. Youmight decide that one of the later games is boring and you don'twant to sit through it anyway. You might want to start the second
game on the same channel late so that the conclusion of the firstgame is in the same file. All it has to go on is that footballgames need to record extra time and there is no one right answerif they conflict. However, you know what the right answer for you
is on this day in this situation. You just need to tell it whatyou prefer by adding an override.The other thing that always comes up is that idea that the extratime should be optional so the scheduler doesn't have to warn you
about a conflict to let you know that you need to look and decide.In a case like this, that is a bad idea. You want to require theextra time because if the show that followed on another channel isrecorded and no conflict is reported, The game could be truncated
during the final dramatic drive with no forewarning. If it tellsyou there is a conflict then you can decide how you feel about thegame and the show on another channel that follows. The silicongates can't know how you feel, they can only know the numbers that
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Re: [mythtv-users] Help Developing MythWeb

2006-01-26 Thread Chris Petersen

 or even just to speed up the loading of the current time schedule by
 loading details and later channels after the initial load, and I know
 this has been talked about before.  I'm not sure how to neatly
 implement both AJAX and non-AJAX methods without making them separate.

Since the mouseover stuff is all javascript, anyway, I intend to start 
using ajax for this in .20.

  More inquisitive than argumentative I'm wondering what browsers are
 still out there that lack JS and httprequester (obviously cell phones
 are on the list)?

elinks only has rudimentary js support, I don't think lynx has it at 
all.  And there are still a lot of people who actually turn it off for 
security reasons (enough to beg me not to require javascript in mythweb).

Thus, two themes...  One full-featured fancy ajax-loaded one, and one 
basic no-frills one so security-paranoid and text-browser users can 
still get in and do things.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] More popup menu oddities (can't select / wrong

2006-01-26 Thread Chris Pinkham

 On 1/26/06, Justin Hornsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Screenshots would help me a lot :-)
 
 http://wendy.seltzer.org/mythtv/bad-popup.png nothing selected or
 selectable, blue buttons
 
 http://wendy.seltzer.org/mythtv/good-popup.png same screen, now it
 selects, and the buttons are gray
 (after starting the program and fast-forwarding to the end a second time)

Are you sure these aren't focus issues?  When I run mythfrontend on my
dev box and I move the mouse outside of the mythfrontend window, I see
something exactly like what you're describing, the colors change and
no button is highlited (since none of them have focus).

On my production system, I have been bothered by a bug for a long time
where a popup would come up and the proper button would be highlighted,
but occasionally another button would be a 3rd color different than the
highlighted and non-highlighted buttons.  One day it hit me that this
oddball button was under the invisible mouse pointer.  When I moved the
mouse outside of the popup area, the 3rd-colored button changed to
the non-highlighted color.  Now I try to keep my mouse at the edge of
the screen, but when the frontend restarts, X puts the mouse in the
middle of the screen and I have to move the mouse otherwise an
occasional popup will have this odd-colored button.

-- 
Chris

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Re: [mythtv-users] should I just switch to SVN

2006-01-25 Thread Chris Hembrow

also check out mkcdrec, makes bootable complete system recovery cds,
we use it for cloning machines in work, I use it for backing up my
myth setup

On 1/25/06, Jon Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Q. Is there a way to use a program like Norton Ghost to backup you 
  current
  working system so if you are stupid like me and FUBAR your system you can
  bring it back before the WAF drops to the point hat she starts to make you
  sit there and program the video (what is one of those?) so she doesn't miss
  here shows !!!
  A . 
 
  I think you need to upgrade to WIFE v2.1.  It contains less bugs, doesn't 
  nag you nearly as much, and can even do the dishes!  However, doing that 
  will force you to upgrade to SON v1.13, which has been know to cause 
  troubles.
 
  Anyhow, regardless of all of that, recent versions of Ghost do support ext2 
  and ext3 file systems, but not other (now, mainsteram) Linux file systems.  
  Nevertheless, I think you can always perform a block-by-block copy of a 
  hard disk, but your image will be the same size as the drive.  dd can do 
  this for you.

 There is a program that I use called partimage that will backup only the
   partition. It doesn't backup empty blocks like dd does, only those
 with data on them.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Help Developing MythWeb

 I would like to start contributing to MythTV in some way.  
 Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of experience in C ( and I don't think 
 anybody wants me to gain any by hacking up the mythtv sources ).  I am 
 primarily web, I use a lot of Java and php, which naturally means I 
 should help with MythWeb.  Where do I start?  Are there any places where 
 people post feature requests?

The two areas where I'm actively searching for help are:

  * MythWeb's music section needs to be completely rewritten
  * MythWeb's video section needs to be completely rewritten

(I don't really use either of these features of MythTV, so they've been 
low on my priority list)

I'm also hoping that someone will send me an updated WAP theme for SVN 
(hopefully before the .19 release).  Its usual maintainer is really busy 
and hasn't told me if he'll be able to do it or not.

I'd also like to get MythStreamTV integrated into the official code now 
that MythWeb has a semi-modular design, though I'll likely let its 
current author work out those details.

And of course, much of MythWeb still needs to be rewritten to use 
semantic markup with better CSS support, but I'll likely tackle that 
myself after .19 is released.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Help Developing MythWeb

 Actually, I had thought of rewriting MythWeb's music section already, I 
 use Jinzora to stream my mp3's to Itune at work and like the setup.
 I have not really messed with mythweb's music section, only long enough 
 to know that it doesn't work like Jinzora does.  I have no idea what the 
 video section does.  Is everything written in php?

I've tried to talk to the jinzora authors a few times about integrating 
with mythweb, but got no response worth mentioning.

Currently, the music section is mainly just a viewer of what's in the 
DB.  Would *love* to get a nice playlist builder and player added to 
MythWeb (heck, I'd just be happy to replace the current music code with 
something that matches the structure of the rest of mythweb)

And yes, everything is currently php.  Mostly for compatibility and ease 
of install (rather than having to show people how to set up php and a 
cgi environment).

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Help Developing MythWeb

 There's an excellent product out there that I use already for streaming 
 stuff called SlimServer (http://www.slimdevices.com).  It can stream 
 many different types of media.  As I'm fairly new to MythTV development 
 as well, I don't know how people feel about integrating existing 
 software into the projects.  I too am a Java engineer, though I have 
 experience in many different languages.  Just thought I'd point out an 
 already existing piece of software that might make writing the music 
 section a bit easier.

Slimserver is awesome, but is a perl-based self-contained webserver with 
on-the-fly format conversion.

Would be interesting to see something like that integrated with mythweb, 
though...  Would also make video streaming a lot easier.  Would probably 
end up being better served as a separate project with a mythweb plugin 
for it (like I hope mythstream will eventually be, though this could 
supersede mythstream in functionality)

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Help Developing MythWeb

 Found the perfect solution BSD License:
 
 http://musicplayer.sourceforge.net/

BSD licensed code won't mix with GPL code (see the history of XFree86 
for details).

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Help Developing MythWeb

 Really, I have no idea about how all the licensing works.  Any 
 flash/actionscript gurus care to recreate something like musicplayer?

Ah, if it's flash-based, it's probably fine.

The issue with BSD is that it requires attribution, and the GPL 
explicitly forbids clauses that require you to do anything to the code 
other than keep it GPL.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Help Developing MythWeb

 I'd suggest that it's better to go thin-client and not have to assume that 
 the users have any 
 plugins.  Same goes for java.  Once you go that way, it's a whole new can of 
 worms...

I won't allow anything pigeon-hole-like into mythweb.  Inclusion of a 
flash-based player would be awesome, but it would have to be a user 
choice on top of standard .m3u playlist downloading.  I don't see either 
of those being much of an issue.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Tivo to Myth migration

2006-01-25 Thread Chris Ribe

Any idea if this will work with a DirecTiVo?On 1/24/06, Ian Forde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
not sure if anyone's even remotely interested in this, but I've cobbledtogether a script that will pull a show from a S1 Tivo and putit intothe Watch Recordings screen on myth.The script still needs
somefinishing touches though.(Okay - it's pretty rough to lookat.;)In an case, conceivably it could be used with MythTivo to pullallrecordings from a S1 Tivo and put them into Myth...
It's missing some functionality right now though - I don't knowhow toinject a transcode job into the job queue yet...WARNING:EXPERIMENTAL SHELL SCRIPT ALERT!
Having said that, you can find it athttp://www.duckland.org/~ian/test_extract.sh if you'reinterested.Don't blame me if your cats start barking though... ;)
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Re: [mythtv-users] How much storage do you have for MythTV?

2006-01-25 Thread Chris Ribe

My /video partition is 140 GB, but I don't really use myth for
recording much. If I want to make sure something gets recorded, I
usemy directv tivo, If I want watch something on nework tv, I use
test-mpeg2 and mplayer on my myth box.

Come to think of, I don't really use myth for anything. I just tinker with it in my spare time for fun. On 1/24/06, Tom Lichti 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Chris wrote: On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 16:39 +1100, Michael Fox wrote:
 On 1/24/06, Yeechang Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 8 X $150 320GB Western Digital drives = 2560 GB = $1200 2 X Infrant ReadyNAS 600 units without drives = $1200
 hhmm i think i would go for something like this if you need _a lot_ of storage. 
http://www.promise.com/product/product_detail_eng.asp?segment=VTrakproduct_id=149 e1000 fibercard and be happy :-))We have a couple of those in our computer room, soon to be deployed.
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Re: [mythtv-users] How much storage do you have for MythTV?

2006-01-25 Thread Chris Ribe

That's about right. Although I might have likened the tivo to a Honda Accord and the Myth box to an old Jaguar E-Type.

To keep somewhat on the topic of recording space, my Directv tivo
stores about 36 hours of SD programming (at about 1GB/hr), and its
quality is vastly superior to what I get get from my Comcast cable and
PVR-150.

On 1/25/06, Michael T. Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 01/25/2006 07:32 PM, Chris Ribe wrote: My /video partition is 140 GB, but I don't really use myth for recording much.If I want to make sure something gets recorded, I usemy directv tivo,If I want watch something on nework tv, I use
 test-mpeg2 andmplayer on mymyth box. Come to think of,I don't really use myth for anything. I just tinker with it in my spare time for fun.And, let me guess... You keep your Ferrari F40 in the garage while you
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Re: [mythtv-users] Help Developing MythWeb

 took me about 2 minutes to write a php function to return a m3u list
 of the current mythmusic page.
 With some javascript and a little bit of AJAX (I like pear::HTML_AJAX
 for php) you could have a pretty sweet playlist editor. I do suck at
 designing interfaces however so if someone makes something static I
 could put some brains to it,
 
 And while we're at it redo the filtering for the music lists.

I will *only* accept patches that are a complete rewrite of the music 
portion.  The current object-based setup is imho horribly ugly, and at 
best does not match up with the how rest of the code is implemented.  If 
you have questions, I'm almost always in the #mythtv-users irc channel 
on freenode.

I also request that use of javascript only ADD to the functionality of 
the page, not become a necessity (too many mythweb users out there don't 
use javascript).  Sometime after .19, I do plan to create a new 
minimal theme to work without javascript so that the default theme can 
be made all ajax-friendly, but until then, javascript should always be 
considered an extra, not a requirement.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] IVTV 0.4.2 and MythTV

2006-01-24 Thread Chris Rouch

On 1/23/06, Brian Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just upgraded my kernel and a few modules.  I can do a cat /dev/video0 and
 my system will capture, however mythtv is just showing a black screen on
 live TV.  I cannot capture with scheduled recordings either.  I updated ivtv
 and ran mythtv-setup, but it didn't seem to resolve the issue:

Between ivtv 0.4.0 and 0.4.1 the name of the tuner became 'Tuner'
rather than Tuner0 on my PVR500. This broke live tv for me even though
mplayer /dev/video0 was fine. You could try running mythtv-setup
again and cycle through the available tuners.

Regards,

Chris
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[mythtv-users] Ripping DVD hangs up

2006-01-24 Thread Chris

During (roughly the middle) of ripping a DVD to my hard drive it locks 
up my whole system. Has anyone else had this issue and what can be done 
to address it?

PVR-350
Nvidia Geforce FX 5200 PCI (using this tv out not the pvr-350)
512 MB Ram
AMD +1900 XP cpu
Fedora Core 4 (using http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/index.php )
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[mythtv-users] Seattle MUG -- Sunday Jan 29th

2006-01-24 Thread Chris Petersen

A couple of people on the IRC channel have expressed an interest in 
getting together (one of them is an out-of-towner who will be in Seattle 
this weekend), so I'm calling for a Seattle MUG.  Location and time to 
be determined based on who is interested (so let me know if you're under 
21 or it may end up being a bar/pub) and what time the most people are 
available on on Sunday.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] should I just switch to SVN

2006-01-24 Thread Chris Henderson

On 1/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/23/06,
Steve Nuffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is there a list of changes/enhancements that is available on the web? Want to see if it would be worth going to the new version at this time or wait when my Myth box is not used as much.
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes_-_0.19
NB: This does *not* indicate that there has been a release, this was posted because there's a feature freeze in effect. Given the timing, I'm waiting for the actual
0.19 release rather than having to upgrade twice in a short period.

Hi all,I have just read the release notes for 0.19 and all i can say is,oh boy, gooodie, gdie.I was wondering when the new release was due. Now i can see why it has taken so long.
I am not able to post answers very often, as i grew up in a Windoz world and work in a Windo world. So Linux hurts my brain.But i would like to thank all of you that help us (sometimes) annoying people.
But before the new release hits why don't we avoid the usual questions i have seen come up 'how do i upgrade, what do i need to save , where is my brain Where is the ANY key by answering a few questions and setting up a FAQ for upgrading.
Please feel free to flame me if i get it wrong. ( or you could just change it ;-) )Upgrading check list.--Standard Myth Suite install. (no extra modules IE Mythstream)
--this should update to 0.19 # aptget update mythsuiteQ .do you need to do a # aptget upgrade ???A . ???--
Non Standard install (IE extra modules or people that have to use tv_grab_au scripts like me in Australia)--Q. What is 'Best Practice' for upgrades.
A. Q. Is there a way to use a program like Norton Ghost to backup you current working system so if you are stupid like me and FUBAR your system you can bring it back before the WAF drops to the point hat she starts to make you sit there and program the video (what is one of those?) so she doesn't miss here shows !!!
A . Q. Does the upgrade keep the current recording schedules? IE the wife has set Myth to record all of the 'days of our lives' or something. Will all of those be kept. if not how do we save them.A.
---I cant think of anything else that somebody might ask but if you can please add it. If people make a few responses i will edit the post and put them all together. Hopefully if we can get a nice list of answers ppl MIGHT read it before they post questions.
If needed i will re-post this in a new thread.Chris.
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Re: [mythtv-users] svn mythweb sub-pages not found

2006-01-23 Thread Chris Petersen

 I got svn version of mythtb but I have bad problems with mythweb. I
 got the first page working well, but when even I click any sub-page
 (fex. listing) , an error occurs: Not Found The requested URL
 /var/www/mythweb/mythweb.php/tv was not found on this server.
 
 There is mythweb/modules/tv directory that has lots of .php files.
 Access should not be a problem. all are accessible by www-user
 
 Any ideas how to fix this ?

Sounds like your apache config isn't set up properly for mod_rewrite. 
It's trying to redirect instead of merely rewrite the URL behind the scenes.

Make sure that your AllowOverride settings are correct, and check out 
the alternate rewrite options in .htaccess.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Cost of MythTV Machines

2006-01-23 Thread CHRIS KOTTING

 - How much is silence in your living room worth?

Rather a lot, a 200 kw turbogenerator is stone silent comapared to my 6-yar 
old, so...

 - Do you (and other family members) want an ugly old computer
 showcased in your living room?

No, so I have it behind the wall unit and use an RF keyboard and mouse.

 - How much did you spend on audio/video gear in the past?

Not a whole lot, though it seemed a bunch at the time (older gear, but it 
suits our purposes).

 - How much money do you normally spend on your computer hobby?

As little as possible. I have other hobbies, as well.

 - How many hours of recordings do you want to keep? (HINT: it's more
 than you would ever think when your building your first mythtv box)

Yes it is, but I archive off to DVD anything we deem worth keeping longer 
than one viewing.

 - When one of your hard drives fails and you lose your
 system/recordings, how much would it be worth to you to be able to go
 back in time and set up RAID?

Not a thing.  I backup my system drive whenever I do an upgrade (both before 
and after) and the /video directory (on it's own drive) can go poof for 
all I care, I'm only out the cost of a replacement drive.

What did I spend?
Combined Frontend/Backend SD
$36 - DVD Burner
$25 - 40 Gig HD (eBay)
$75 - PVR-150 (eBay)
$9 - Case and PS
$7 - homebrew speed control circuit for PS fan
$20 - RF wireless Keyboard  Mouse
everything else (700 mhz Pentium III, MB, 640MB ram, 20 Gig system drive) I 
had lying around the house.
Cables to hook it all together (I splurged here) $45

Total: about $220  Like most things, the key to a satisfactory purchase is 
to know what you want to do, and shop carefully and patiently.

Chris K.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Cannot update ivtv

2006-01-23 Thread chris

On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 12:05:01AM -0500, Jerry Rubinow wrote:
 On 1/20/06, David R Robison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/v4l-cx2341x-init-mpeg.bin is
  needed by package ivtv-kmdl-2.6.14-1.1653_FC4

Which ivtv version does that package install?  Starting with 0.4.2 the
file is renamed v4l-cx2341x-init.mpg, so it could be just the installer
that's broken and a manual build using sources would work ok.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Cost of MythTV Machines

2006-01-23 Thread chris

On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 01:09:28PM +, Bean wrote:
 Well I did a build from scratch in July last year and happened to 
 still have my online bill as below:
 
 Aria Aluminium Media PC Case @ 56.99 +VAT
 Caviar 200GB 8Mb Cache 7200RPM HDD OEM @ 52.99 +VAT
 WinTV Nova-T PCI Digital Free-to-air TV Card @ 51.46 +VAT
 Sempron 2800 2.0Ghz Socket A 256KB 333Mhz OEM @ 40.95 +VAT
 KM4M-V SocketA Graphics Audio LAN MAXT Motherboard @ 24.55 +VAT
 128MB Radeon 9200SE DDR TV Out DVI AGP @ 22.72 +VAT
 512Mb PC2700 184pin DDR DIMM Memory @ 21.50 +VAT
 
 The only thing I reused was a DVD-RW drive, so even allowing for 
 that a total brand new cost would have been about ? 375.00 or around 
 $ 650 USD.

There is another way to look at the cost, of course.  My MythTV 
system cost me exactly $179 (Cdn).  That was $149 for a WinTV card 
for the box in the basement, $10 for some ethernet cable, and $20 for 
a used XBox for the livingroom to act as a frontend.  The rest of the 
system was already there handling my email, acting as a network 
fileserver, etc.  All the old hardware was sunk cost -- the money was 
spent whether I added MythTV or not, so it doesn't count against the 
MythTV setup cost.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Another yum bites the dust (was: Cannot update ivtv)

2006-01-23 Thread Chris Ribe

Does smart know out of the box to look at your repository? Does it read the the yum repos file? How does this work?

On 1/23/06, Axel Thimm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:16:24PM -0500, David R Robison wrote: I am trying to update ivtv by yum install ivtv I get the following error: Error: Missing Dependency: /lib/modules/v4l-
cx2341x-init-mpeg.bin is needed by package ivtv-kmdl-2.6.14-1.1653_FC4 Yet the file is in /lib/modules. What is also interesting is that the package being updated is ivtv-kmdl-2.6.14-1.1656_FC4.i589
 (updating from 1653 to 1656). Any thoughts? Do I first need to uninstall the 1653 version and then reinstall 1656 version?This is YAYB (yet another yum bug).yum install smart smart-gui
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Re: [mythtv-users] How much storage do you have for MythTV?

2006-01-23 Thread Chris

On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 16:39 +1100, Michael Fox wrote:
 On 1/24/06, Yeechang Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  8 X $150 320GB Western Digital drives = 2560 GB = $1200
  2 X Infrant ReadyNAS 600 units without drives = $1200

hhmm i think i would go for something like this if you need _a lot_ of
storage.

http://www.promise.com/product/product_detail_eng.asp?segment=VTrakproduct_id=149

e1000 fibercard and be happy :-))





 
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[mythtv-users] ivtv0 warning: ENC Stream 0 OVERFLOW #xxx: Stealing a Buffer

2006-01-22 Thread Chris Hembrow

Hi

a couple of times now, my mythtv box (combined back/frontend) has
locked up. I'm running FC4 as per Jarods guide. The hard drive
activity starts going crazy, and the box stops responding to any
input. This happened this evening, and 2 recordings stopped at 21:46.
I rebooted the box and checked var/log/messages, and at 21:46, the
message ivtv0 warning: ENC Stream 0 OVERFLOW #xxx: Stealing a Buffer
started appearing over and over.

Given the time this started, I'm guessing it's related. Any idea what
could have caused this, and how to stop it happening again.

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[mythtv-users] [Mythtv-users] - Mythbackend stopping randomly

2006-01-22 Thread Chris Henderson

Hi all,First thanks to all on this list that give your time so freely.I have had my mythtv setup up and running for quite a while now. I am running my setup with Dvico lite cards. With some help form the forum here i got them going. And it seems to be working perfectly.
But then i started to run into a, seemingly random, problem. Myth would say that it is recording the program but not actually do it. After checking all the logs i could find, i still couldn't find the problem. So i checked that the backend was running and it was most of the time it was. it seems that even though the backend crashes the mythbackend status command doesn't show or know that the backend has crashed. so i just restart it and it works.
So off to the list I go. After a bit of searching i find that there is a
known bug when the recordings screen is left open and the log files
tries to do something it crashes the mythbackend service.Here is the rub, i found somewhere off this list a person that documents how to use a program that tracks certain process to see if they are still running. (cant find it now. off course) but if the status command says that it is still running, will that work? From memory it says it says that it uses the PID
The thread in the forum says that it is fixed in the SVN and therefore in 0.19 should not have that problem anymore. Now i am not anywhere near good enough to try a snapshot of the CVS, even if i knew what that meant ;-)
So my questions are;Will the program (that i cant find now) work if the status command says that it is still running?Would it be better to just restart the service at a set time say 1pm everyday? - i would assume that you could use a cron job to do this. can somebody help me with this?
Is there something simple to fix this problem? (please don't say, don't leave it in the watch recordings screen.The wife does this every day no matter what i tell her she is the one that complains that it didn't record her show!!! )
Any help would be great..Chris.
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[mythtv-users] mythlcdserver only client for lcdproc ?

2006-01-22 Thread Chris

Hello List,

I'm using mythtv SVN of a few days old.

When i use mythlcdserver no information from other lcdproc clients is
displayed. 

Can I change this behaviour ?

If so where ? in lcdproc config ?

Thanks in advance

Chris Holleman

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Re: [mythtv-users] Recording Priorities...

2006-01-22 Thread chris

On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 02:16:37AM -0500, AJ Frantz wrote:
 Why didn't it see that this conflict could be resolved optimally (that is, no
 conflicts if you delayed recording Mythbusters)?  Is this a feature that I
 failed to read about priorities somewhere?

Because delaying a high-priority show to record a low priority show
creates a risk that a schedule change could result in the loss of the
high priority show.  It's a feature.

If you want to have the schedule optimized the way you suggest, then the
answer is to enable the Reschedule Higher Priorities option on the
Recording Priorities setup page on the frontend menu.  This option
tells Myth that it's OK to bump high-priority shows if they exist
elsewhere in the schedule.

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Re: [mythtv-users] whats the best graphics card for HD playback?

I'm in a similar situation to you, Frank, and I am looking for an answer to the same question.

>From what I've gathered so far, the NVidia 5200 series seem to work the
best. I'd like to hear more confirmation on that before I go drop
$40 on one, though.

On 1/20/06, Frank Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Folks,I' running myth on an AMD Athalon 3000 XP with an nvidia GeForce MX4000 card (which only has 64MB of RAM). I can playback most HD streamswith simple xv accelaration enabled (without XvMC), but 1080i streams
stutter.When I enable XvMC I cannot even playback 720p streams, it stutterslike crazy. My system also uses way more cpu cycles when XvMC isenabled.I believe that I have the correct nvidia drivers installed
(7667), I get an nvidia logo when X starts, and my on screen displayis black white (as it should be) when XvMC is enabled. I've triedplaying with HD ringbuffer sizes, but that didn't make any significant
difference.At this point my guess is that my cheap MX4000 isn't up to the job, soI'm thinking about getting a new graphics card. I'm looking to get agraphics card that will allow me to playback 1080i streams with my
current cpu and motherboard. From what I've read that means that Ineed a card with decent XvMC support.So if cost isn't really a factor, what would be the ultimate graphicscard for HD playback with myth?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Sound card, speakers recommendations?

To keep it cheap and easy, I'd recommend going with onboard sound and a
2 channel set of PC speakers. I don't care for surround sound
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Re: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv

Bob,
I recently experienced some of the problems you are
describing on a new install (unstable system, FC4 install crashing out
at random point in the process). My problem turned out to be
memory that was either bad or just wouldn't play nice with the
MB.

I would suggest running memtest if you haven't already. On 1/21/06, Michael T. Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:Bob wrote:Thanks to everyone who replied. I thought I would post an update even though
I am dead in the water due to the hard drive crashing.1) I recorded a show. The file was created, but trying to watch the showresulted in the same blank screen crash that I have gotten originally
entering LiveTV. I think this points to an nvidia driver issue particular tothe myth internal player. (mplayer works fine).Because MPlayer doesn't use OpenGL vsync.2) I was very optimistic about Brian's suggestion of removing the load glx
from the xorg.conf. I commented it out, and even restarted the machine (notjust X) but the problem persisted.NVIDIA's drivers are auto-loading the GLX module.You either need Myth0.18.1
(or below) compiled without OpenGL support or Myth 0.18-fixes orSVN (which has a runtime setting in frontend settings to disable OpenGLvsync).In a short time, though, upgrading to 0.19 will give you this
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Re: [mythtv-users] 2.6.15 and nvidia cards

Jumping in on a tangent here, but I am running 32 bit FC4
installation on an EM64T processor for a couple of reasons. First
of all, I couldn't my x86_64 install CDs to work. It took
me about 72 hours in front of the computer to get everything
installed. I believe the problems were due to bad memory (and a
incompatible power button header on the MB, and a lack of thermal
grease between processor and heatsink), but the install I finally got
to work was 32 bit.

Anyhow, I now have my myth box up and running with an smp kernel on a
P4 630+. Jarod suggests in FC4 install guide that x86_64 is less
stable than 32bit, and I have not yet heard any potential benefits of
using x86_64 linux for a myth box.

So then, might I see significantly faster transcode times were I
to switch to a 64 bit installation? The only transcoding I
am interested in is from DVD to mpeg4, if that somehow makes a
difference.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Myth - Mplayer focus

2006-01-20 Thread chris

On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:25:00PM -, Stuart Fox wrote:
 I run mythfrontend direct out of my .xinitrc with no wm. This works fine
 for xine but seems not to for mplayer.

If you are using mythfrontend as the foreground program to keep the X
session open, then simply install ratpoison (mouse-free window manager)
and add 
/usr/bin/ratpoison 
anywhere prior to mythfrontend in your .xinitrc file.

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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfronend stuttering

2006-01-19 Thread Chris Rouch

On 1/17/06, Reuben Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I run mythfront end on my computer (mythbackend is running on
 another computer connected to my tv) mythfrontend has short little
 pasues every couple seconds. My computer is connected to the computer
 running mythbackend through gigabit ethernet, which should be overkill
 for mythtv. Mythfrontend runns perfectly on the same computer running
 mythbackend. Both computers run gentoo linux with ck kernels. What is
 the problem here?

I had this on my (non XvMC) laptop. I needed to uncheck Use libmpeg
in setup-tv-playback on the front end (this is all from memory so
the excact menu may be different). The comment when the checkbox is
active suggests that it may be faster, but I found it gave lots of
prebuffering pauses.

Chris
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[mythtv-users] mythtranscode segfault

2006-01-19 Thread Chris Thielen

Hello all,
I recently got _most_ of my awesome new MythTV PVR running. I'm using
Fedora Core 4 with the RPMs provided by the Fedora Myth HOWTO, using
MythTV 0.18.1 and IVTV 0.4.1. It is a P4 2.5 GHz box with a PVR-500.
All the shows that are recorded from the PVR500 are in huge MPEG-2
format, taking up roughly a gigabyte every half hour. I told MythTV to
transcode these titles without setting any options (transcode them to
what?) and checked back on them hours later. They both had failed
immediately.

When I sudo and run mythtranscode -i somefile.nuv in my /video
partition (where MythTV is keeping everything, and where space is
running out fast), I receieve the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] video]# mythtranscode -i
1056_2006011901_20060119013000.nuv Stream: 0 Type: 0
Stream: 1 Type: 1
Input #0, mpeg, from '1056_2006011901_20060119013000.nuv':
  Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg2video, 480x480, 29.97 fps, 6000 kb/s
  Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, 384 kb/s
Output #0, vob, to '1056_2006011901_20060119013000.nuv.tmp':
  Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg2video, 480x480, 29.97 fps, q=2-31, 6000 kb/s
  Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, 384 kb/s
Segmentation fault

I tried to backtrace the error:
(gdb) run -i 1056_2006011901_20060119013000.nuv
Starting program: /usr/bin/mythtranscode -i
1056_2006011901_20060119013000.nuv
Reading symbols from shared object read from target memory...(no
debugging symbols found)...done.
Loaded system supplied DSO at 0xc12000
(no debugging symbols found)
...
(no debugging symbols found)
Stream: 0 Type: 0
Stream: 1 Type: 1
Input #0, mpeg, from '1056_2006011901_20060119013000.nuv':
  Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg2video, 480x480, 29.97 fps, 6000 kb/s
  Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, 384 kb/s
Output #0, vob, to '1056_2006011901_20060119013000.nuv.tmp':
  Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg2video, 480x480, 29.97 fps, q=2-31, 6000 kb/s
  Stream #0.1: Audio: mp2, 48000 Hz, stereo, 384 kb/s

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[Switching to Thread -1209133344 (LWP 10143)]
0x00d347b9 in av_write_frame ()
from /usr/lib/libmythavformat-0.18.2.so.0

(gdb) bt
#0  0x00d347b9 in av_write_frame ()
from /usr/lib/libmythavformat-0.18.2.so.0
#1  0x0805e20d in RecordingProfile::~RecordingProfile ()
#2  0x0805f60c in RecordingProfile::~RecordingProfile ()

As best I can tell, mythtranscode is failing in some function that has
to do with writing a frame. Now since I installed RPM packages that many
others use on an updated, stable (heh) Fedora Core 4 box, I would think
that somebody would notice if mythtranscode wasn't working.

But, given the fact that it has trouble writing a frame, and that it's
coming from what looks like the destructor for the RecordingProfile
function, _and_ the fact that mythtranscode is doing something very
stupid (transcoding mpeg2-mpeg2), I'm guessing it's just a bug in
mythtranscode b/c no one would be stupid enough to waste CPU time
transcoding from one format to the exact same format?

So, my question is two-fold:
1) How do I stop mythtranscode from failing?
and, related:
2) How do I create and specify a different profile, perferrably
MPEG2-MPEG4, seeing as my /video partition is currently only 30GB.

Thanks for your help!
Chris Thielen

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Re: [mythtv-users] XBOX - startup and is KDE needed?

2006-01-19 Thread chris

On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 12:41:29PM -0500, A JM wrote:
 I'm trying to finish the installation on my Xbox and had a couple of final
 questions, hopefully. Since the Xbox is not very robust memory wise I want to
 have as few applications running as possible, so does mythfrontend have to run
 in KDE or some other 'front end' application or can I run it another way?
 
 Secondly,  how can I start the frontend automatically instead of having to
 manually lauch it?

I use mingetty with auto-login on tty6 when in runlevel 5.  The
autologin user runs startx from the .bashrc, and the .xinitrc launches
both mythfrontend (foreground) and ratpoison (background).  The blackbox
rc file is empty.

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Re: [mythtv-users] User jobs not in queue

2006-01-18 Thread Chris Pinkham

 I don't see any job queue options under recording profiles.  Here  are
 all the places I see options regarding job queues:

 What version are you running?  It is in there since before 0.18, it will say
 Run 'Nuvexport Job' or Do not run 'Nuvexport job' for new recordings.
 They are on the Post Recording Processing page of the recording
 profile setup.

 Latest version.  Ok, I'll look again when I get a chance.  Is that in
 mythtvsetup or mythfrontend?

The recording profiles are in mythfrontend.  I thought you said you
looked at them already.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Advice on adding second capture card

2006-01-18 Thread Chris Hembrow

I set my nova-t as the first input, that way I don't tie up my sky box
by recording a freeview channel, unless i'm recording 2 channels.
There is nothing more annoying than getting halfway through a
recording, only to find that the missus has changed sky channel, or
left it on the sky guide for 20 minutes! (and that is despite having
an LCD on the box which shows if/what it's recording)

The only problem I had was with scanning the channels, cuz I have a
cr4p aerial. I had to manually enter the frequencies in mythtvsetup
and do a search then. But this shouldn't be a problem with a decent
aerial.


On 18/01/06, Paul Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David wrote:

 
 There was some good advice on Nova-Ts in the archives - fairly easy to
 search for. Also easy to find on google.
 
 Do you have good DVB reception?
 This is a good link for UK digital TV - what cable to use from the
 aerial etc...
 http://www.megalithia.com/elect/index.html
 
 I currently have usually bad DVB reception (upgrading the aerial wire
 next week) - and Mythbackend sometimes has problems 'cos it can't sync.
 It's also impossible to say don't record on this input so as soon as
 you get xmltv going it will schedule for it and you'll have to delete
 shows by hand.
 
 David
 
 
 
 Thanks David. I'll have a search about in the archives. I've been
 reading plenty of stuff on the web and I know a fair bit more about DVB
 today than I did yesterday! I had a look at the megalithia site and I
 have good line of site to Billsdale (no obstructions) and I'm 21 miles
 away. Since I already have a good loft space aerial I'm going to borrow
 a friends set top box over the weekend and see what kind of reception I
 get from it. If it's not great I'll have to have an outdoor aerial fitted.

 With regard to Myth choosing the second tuner, I had assumed that it
 would use the first input (my 250) unless there was a conflict and then
 try to resolve it using the new input (Nova-T) is this the case ?

 Cheers
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Re: [mythtv-users] Looking for good specifications for mythTV

2006-01-18 Thread Chris Hembrow

the epia sp 8000 is 800mhz fanless, and has hardware mpeg-4
acceleration. That's my next front end :)

On 18/01/06, Gavin Haslett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The Epia P is a great board for a Myth-like box... my next frontend will 
 probably have that (for my bedroom) because a fanless configuration would be 
 nice.

 However, it's not without its flaws. The 600Mhz CPU is barely powerful enough 
 to run a frontend and backend together... forget trying to use it to 
 transcode. The core is based on the old Cyrix core, so a lot of the math 
 takes a back seat to integer performance. Not a big deal with video, but when 
 dealing with compression/decompression of MPEG-2 or 4 streams this can start 
 to saturate these 600Mhz CPUs pretty quickly. All Pentium-class CPU's are not 
 made equal... bear that in mind when shopping for a media-PC.

 Oh, and on the 600Mhz, if you're running MythMusic then better not try to run 
 full-screen visualizations either :)

 I would also point out that even with the XvMC support for these boards, 
 don't try HD content. You need a LOT more muscle than this to pump HD to the 
 screen, even the 1Ghz version of the board won't handle it.

 Be aware of the specs also; I'm not sure if the Epia P does come in a 1.3Ghz 
 form, I think it tops at 1Ghz as I recall. Either way, as pointed out above 
 since it's based on the Cyrix core some of the floating point ops are a 
 little slower than a similarly clocked Intel or AMD. However, the heat and 
 electricity used are a lot nicer in these cores.

 We're still in a phase where embedded systems are a huge compromise... but 
 the situation's improving dramatically and continues to. Now, if we can only 
 see some lower prices on the hardware :)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Chris Weisiger
 Sent: Tue 1/17/2006 10:53 PM
 To: Discussion about mythtv
 Cc:
 Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Looking for good specifications for mythTV



 Here is the link

 
 http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/mini_itx/epia_sp/index.jsp

 Chris Weisiger wrote:

 The thing is with the mini-itx stuff is that I have an old NES and i 
 was
 reading about
 building mini-itx systems and thought while im building it...to 
 build it
 in a way
 to use it as a pvr system.which i was looking at getting a 
 mini-itx
 board
 that can handle a 1.3 or so processor
 
 This is the motherboard that I was looking into gettingthats if i
 cant locate
 a mini-itx to handle a pentium processor
 
 
 
 Gavin Haslett wrote:
 
 
 
 So long as you're not trying any HD content, this is probably good
 (though that one's obvious given the 350). I run mine on an AMD 800 
 with
 768MB RAM and it runs like a champ. Single PVR-250 and an NVIDIA 
 card
 running XvMC for playback.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Weisiger
 Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:02 PM
 To: Discussion about mythtv
 Subject: [mythtv-users] Looking for good specifications for mythTV
 
 What are some good specs for a mythTV box..I have seen specs for 
 high
 end machines doing multiple recordingsI am not looking into 
 doing
 such things...
 
 All i am looking for is to record a single channel while watching
 itand the possibility to pause live tv...
 just a basic recording box
 
 I am looking into buiding a mini-itx box with laptop 
 componentsslim
 line cd/dvd, laptop hard drive, dimm or sodimm memory depending on 
 what
 type of mini-itx motherboard i get or is recommended
 
 What is the lowest possible processor speed to accomplish recording 
 and
 pausing live tv
 
 i was looking into getting a mini-itx with a 1.3 processor? and a
 pvr-350 card?
 
 i know memory helps the system..so i was planning on maxing out the
 memory..i found a mini-itx board that can support 2 gig or 
 ram...and the
 hard drive space of course is not an issue for me to deal with...it 
 is
 basically the processor speed..
 being this is the first
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Re: [mythtv-users] Looking for good specifications for mythTV

2006-01-18 Thread Chris Ribe

Chris, when you say 600MHz PIII, is that with a hardware MPEG encoder/decoder or without? For SD that is
That is for hardware encode/software decode.

Hardware encoding is really the only way to go, IMO. I had a
software encoding capture card for awhile ,and the picture just
sucked. I suppose with enough processor you could crank up the
quality, but it just isn't worth it for a dedicated myth box.
On 1/18/06, Chris Hembrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the epia sp 8000 is 800mhz fanless, and has hardware mpeg-4acceleration. That's my next front end :)On 18/01/06, Gavin Haslett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Epia P is a great board for a Myth-like box... my next frontend
will probably have that (for my bedroom) because a fanless
configuration would be nice. However, it's not without
its flaws. The 600Mhz CPU is barely powerful enough to run a frontend
and backend together... forget trying to use it to transcode. The core
is based on the old Cyrix core, so a lot of the math takes a back seat
to integer performance. Not a big deal with video, but when dealing
with compression/decompression of MPEG-2 or 4 streams this can start to
saturate these 600Mhz CPUs pretty quickly. All Pentium-class CPU's are
not made equal... bear that in mind when shopping for a media-PC. Oh, and on the 600Mhz, if you're running MythMusic then better not try to run full-screen visualizations either :)
I would also point out that even with the XvMC support for these
boards, don't try HD content. You need a LOT more muscle than this to
pump HD to the screen, even the 1Ghz version of the board won't handle
it. Be aware of the specs also; I'm not sure if the
Epia P does come in a 1.3Ghz form, I think it tops at 1Ghz as I recall.
Either way, as pointed out above since it's based on the Cyrix core
some of the floating point ops are a little slower than a similarly
clocked Intel or AMD. However, the heat and electricity used are a lot
nicer in these cores. We're still in a phase where
embedded systems are a huge compromise... but the situation's improving
dramatically and continues to. Now, if we can only see some lower
prices on the hardware :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Chris Weisiger Sent: Tue 1/17/2006 10:53 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv Cc: Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Looking for good specifications for mythTV Here is the link
http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/mini_itx/epia_sp/index.jsp Chris Weisiger wrote:
The thing is with the mini-itx stuff is that I have an old NES and
i was reading about
building mini-itx systems and thought while im building it...to
build it in a way to use it as a pvr system.which i was looking at getting a mini-itx board that can handle a 1.3 or so processor
This is the motherboard that I was looking into gettingthats if i cant locate a mini-itx to handle a pentium processor
Gavin Haslett wrote:So long as you're not trying any HD content, this is probably good
(though that one's obvious given the 350). I run mine on an AMD
800 with
768MB RAM and it runs like a champ. Single PVR-250 and an
NVIDIA card running XvMC for playback. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Weisiger Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:02 PM To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: [mythtv-users] Looking for good specifications for mythTV
What are some good specs for a mythTV box..I have seen specs
for high
end machines doing multiple recordingsI am not looking into
doing such things... All i am looking for is to record a single channel while watching itand the possibility to pause live tv...
just a basic recording box
I am looking into buiding a mini-itx box with laptop
componentsslim
line cd/dvd, laptop hard drive, dimm or sodimm memory depending
on what type of mini-itx motherboard i get or is recommended
What is the lowest possible processor speed to accomplish
recording and pausing live tv i was looking into getting a mini-itx with a 1.3 processor? and a pvr-350 card?
i know memory helps the system..so i was planning on maxing out the
memory..i found a mini-itx board that can support 2 gig or
ram...and the
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Re: [mythtv-users] AIDO - Another Media System

2006-01-17 Thread Chris Pinkham

 A bit of topic but might be interesting for some to take a look at.

Not very interesting when you read the last question on their FAQ:

http://www.aido.org/faq.xml

Q: Is AIDO vapourware?
A: Yes.

Move along

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb problem

 I don't have any log errors either, just the blank page.
 I was a bit worried about the hostname variable as
 using /bin/hostname on the WEB server obviously
 will give you the wrong variable to use for in the SQL queries.

that was changed yesterday...  no /bin/ (or it won't work in windows), 
and there is now an override hostname setting in .htaccess (it was also 
removed from conf.php, which I'm slowly trying to eliminate).

 For example the following from tv/recorded.php
$dir = $db-query_col('SELECT data
  FROM settings
 WHERE value=RecordFilePrefix AND 
 hostname=?',
   hostname
  );
 will need the hostname of the MythTV box.

no, it won't.  each host can have its own RecordFilePrefix.  MythWeb is 
doing exactly what it's supposed to.  However, I'm probably missing some 
config for this so it can easily be set from MythWeb

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb problem

 Tried the new mythweb and like the layout.
 
 There is a problem in my setup though:
 
 The tv page is blank.
 I suspect that this has something to do with the fact
 that I am running Mythweb and the MySQL database
 on a different machine than MythTV itself.
 
 The previous versions of mythweb worked fine in this setup though

Previous as in how old?  Last week?  Last month?  .16?

If you upgraded from .18, did you read through the .htaccess file and 
configure your database variables?

Try enabling errors in php.ini and see if that helps shed some light on 
the situation (there's only so much I can trap for within mythweb itself).

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Re: [mythtv-users] Suspend options with mythtv

2006-01-17 Thread Chris Rouch

On 1/11/06, Mark J. Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On January 11, 2006 03:51 pm, James C. Dastrup wrote:
  HI everybody,
  
  I've been thinking about the things that still bother me about my mythtv
  setup, and the worst one is definately boot time on the frontend.  It
   takes my P3-733 a couple of minutes to boot fully in to mythtv.
  
  I was hoping that some sort of hibernation/suspend to disk setup would
   help me with this.
  
  Does anyone out there do this sort of  thing?  Any mythtv related caveats?
  How about root over NFS?
  
  My system has a hard drive that I boot from, and then spin down.  I
   suppose I could spin it back up to do the suspend to disk...
  
  How much faster would a resume be than a full boot?
  
  Mark
 
  I've done this using Suspend2 (http://www.suspend2.net/) and it works just
  fine suspending to disk. Definitely speeds up the boot-up process.
 
  I haven't been able to get it working with my P3 HT frontend, since it
  doesn't seem to like SMP, although it's supposed to work.

 Thanks for the reply.  I was looking at suspend2, but having to unmount my nfs
 root drive first kind of scared me.  Wouldn't that mean I have to stop all of
 the services before suspending, then restart them on resume.  That part takes
 up most of the boot time doesn't it?  Would I gain anything?


I'm using suspend2 on a Epia M10K. At one point it worked flawlessly
and was much faster than a full boot. But in the course of getting
SPDIF and XvMC and lirc working, I've changed something that causes it
to mess up the networking about every other resume. Also mythfrontend
sometimes crashes the first time I try to use it, and I can't use an
ATI wonder remote (with module lirc_atiusb). I don't think this is the
finished article yet (e.g the kernel comes from atrpms-bleeding), so
some rough edges are to be expected.

Regards,

Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb problem

 Exactly, but to get the right result it needs to be the name of the box that
 keeps the files, not the host where the Web stuff is working??

no, it needs to match up with the directory where the files are mounted 
on the box the web stuff is on.  If you don't mount the files on the web 
box, that setting is useless, anyway.

 Will turn on the debugging and report back after some time.

Keep me posted.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Advice on adding second capture card

2006-01-17 Thread Chris Hembrow

I have a similar setup. a celery 2.4, with a 120gb drive just for the
recordings, using a pvr250 to capture from sky. I added a second card,
a win tv nova-t dvb card, and unless I'm ripping a dvd at the same
time, it happily records 2 programs and watches one at the same time.
This is with a backend/frontend on the same system.
If you're thinking of going freeview, I would make the move to FC4
now, as my nova-t worked out of the box on FC4, but needed much
patching on FC3

On 17/01/06, Paul Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, January 17, 2006 12:36, Paul Barker said:
  Hi All
 
  Well my myth setup has been working great for over a year now so I thought
  it's about time I broke it! I'd like to add a second capture card to the
  system. Currently here's what I have:
 
  Athlon XP 2000
  512Mb Ram
  1 X 160Gb Seagate Baracuda 7200RPM 2Mb cache dedicated capture / buffer
  device.
  Fedora 3 (going to 4 when 5 releases)
  PVR-250 capturing over SVID from SKY reciever

 Sorry - should have added that this is my BE only - I have remote front ends.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb problem

 Is there an operator === in PHP ?
 
 I found a line:
 if ($key === 'offset') {
 in recording_schedules.php ?
 
 It is not the reason for the problem, but anyway?

yes.  it means equals, and of the same type.  In that case, if $key is 
zero, 'offset' is evaluated as an integer, which is also zero, so they 
match.  The === makes sure that 'offset' and $key are both the same type 
(int != string).

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb problem

 Anyway I am very close to a solution now.
 Down in programs.php the SQL produced in load_all_program_data() is bogus
 it contains 4 ? marks and the query is only passed 3 parameters. I told PHP 
 to
 print the SQL statement in my case and got:
 query = SELECT program.*, UNIX_TIMESTAMP(program.starttime) AS 
 starttime_unix, 
 UNIX_TIMESTAMP(program.endtime) AS endtime_unix, CONCAT(repeat(?, 
 program.stars * ?), IF((program.stars * ? * 10) % 10, ?, )) AS 
 starstring, 
 IFNULL(programrating.system, ) AS rater, IFNULL(programrating.rating, ) 
 AS 
 rating, oldrecorded.recstatus FROM program LEFT JOIN oldrecorded USING 
 (seriesid, programid) LEFT JOIN programrating USING (chanid, starttime) WHERE 
 program.chanid='30' AND program.starttime = FROM_UNIXTIME('1137685500') GROUP 
 BY program.chanid, program.starttime ORDER BY program.starttime
 
 The substituting parameters in the query are:
 star_character, max_stars, max_stars

That's not what that query looks like...  remove the file and re-up svn.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb problem

 The new query with parameters replaced and run from mysql generates the 
 following:
 
 mysql SELECT program.*, UNIX_TIMESTAMP(program.starttime) AS starttime_unix, 
 UNIX_TIMESTAMP(program.endtime) AS endtime_unix, CONCAT(repeat(*, 
 program.stars * 4), IF((program.stars * 4 * 10) % 10, ?, )) AS 
 starstring, 
 IFNULL(programrating.system, ) AS rater, IFNULL(programrating.rating, ) 
 AS 
 rating, oldrecorded.recstatus FROM program LEFT JOIN oldrecorded USING 
 (seriesid, programid) LEFT JOIN programrating USING (chanid, starttime) WHERE 
 program.chanid='5' AND program.starttime = FROM_UNIXTIME('1137693600') GROUP 
 BY program.chanid, program.starttime ORDER BY program.starttime;
 ERROR 1052 (23000): Column 'chanid' in from clause is ambiguous
 mysql   
 
 I figure this is the problem here but really cannot see the reason for the 
 error message.
 Is this a MySQL bug? Currently using version 5.0.15.

that's not what the query looks like.  see here:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/mythplugins/mythweb/includes/programs.php

however, I think this is starting to look like a bug with subversion. 
It seems almost like the frac12; entity is being converted into the 
actual 1/2 character (which shows up in your code as a ?) when it's 
being downloaded.

however, I've checked my own http checkout of myth (since I usually 
check out via ssh for editing), and it's fine.  So it seems like 
something's funky in your particular install.

And no, it's not mysql.  The ? replacement is from a library that I 
wrote and included in mythweb.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb problem

 Well, I think I figured out the reason for the message.
 As both program and oldrecorded has their own chanid the poor MySQL
 doesn't know which one to join the programrating to.
 
 Now the question is: Why doesn't this happen to everyone?
 Is it my for a long tim updated/upgraded database?

ok, that certainly could be a mysql5 change...  I'll be poking at those 
joins tonight, anyway...  will make them explicit ON rather than USING, 
which should fix your problem, too.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb shuts down my machine

 'Monitor' and 'Playback' connections are the same the only difference is 
 'monitor' 
 connections don't block shutdown or trigger the flag in the backend that 
 starts the 
 checking for no active connections. I believe everything should work the same 
 with
 both 'Monitor' or 'Playback' connection types. The only difference is Mythweb 
 won't
 affect the shutdown status in the backend in any way. Streaming recordings 
 may need
 a different approach not sure how that works. 

Gotcha...  Just switched to Monitor instead.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Moure trouble in Mythweb land

 Now when I have a program listing I found
 that all programs in it are marked as recorded ??

There's a bug already in about that.  Will fix it tonight.

 And the  Recorded Items now returns a white page.

could be the same query you've been having trouble with in programs.php.

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Re: [mythtv-users] some more RAID and HD speed questions

2006-01-17 Thread chris

On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 11:31:18PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: Steve Adeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  also is there anything that can limit drive use in a similar way as nice 
  can 
  limit cpu usage?
 I don't see why you shoudln't be able to use nice against the cp 
 command (or whatever means you're using to transfer the data).

Using nice wouldn't have any effect on tasks that are primarily i/o 
bound as they miss so many scheduling cycles while in the wait-state 
that they would be candidates for scheduling just about every time 
the drive finishes a block transfer.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Looking for high WAF in-wall speakers!!

2006-01-17 Thread Chris Ribe

In wall speakers tend to be less small because, well, they still don't takeup any space. 

Perhaps you could go with standard in wall speakers but make custom
grilles that are more attractive than the factory option? 

On 1/17/06, Kirby Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: [mythtv-users] Looking for high WAF in-wall speakers!!

2006-01-17 Thread Chris Ribe

What depth wall are we talking about here? If it is a 2x6 wall,
you could get some nice looking and nice sounding bookself speakers and
build a small recess into the wall for them. Or just build in a
recess for some satelitte type speakers.

Alternatively, you could go all recuctio ad absurdum on her and say you
don't want any visible lights, switches, or recpetacles, either! On 1/17/06, Richard Bronosky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I'm also under the impression that enclosure less drivers suck.
Unfortunately in this home renovation form comes before function. I'm
going for the Wife Acceptance Factor.

Steve Adeff wrote:

On Tuesday 17 January 2006 20:26, Chris Ribe wrote:

In wall speakers tend to be less small because, well, they still don'ttakeup any space.Perhaps you could go with standard in wall speakers but make custom grillesthat are more attractive than the factory option?
On 1/17/06, Kirby Bakken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Richard Bronosky wrote:

I find AVSForums.com to be totally unintelligible, so I am asking here.Does anyone have any suggestions for speakers that can be totally hiddeninside a wall and painted? I'm looking for small speakers that my wife
won't hate.Why is it that Bose can use those tiny little cube speakers for thereflag ship product, but their in-wall speakers have to have a 8 3/4 by6 face plate?

Parts express (www.partsexpress.com) has some fairly small speakers..

small cube speakers suck. Esp. Bose speakers. Properly designed small cube speakers take lots of RD resources to create and cost a lot of money, In wall speakers already have gone through a lot of RD resources just to get an
enclosure less driver to sound right. Most people that are going to use in wall speakers don't care to save that little bit of size so the manufacturers are willing to put normal drivers in them and spend the RD resources getting
normal sized drivers to sound good in an in wall package.Now, I've seen some in-wall's with nice quality grill plates, solid white or black (which can then be painted to match any wall color). But your going to
need to cut a hole in the wall and place a grill over the drivers, so I don't really see what more you expect?

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Re: [mythtv-users] SVN 8625 Tuner Status strangeness

2006-01-17 Thread Chris Pinkham

 Tuner Status says Tuner 3 is recording, but the file being written is 
 2068_blah, so wouldn't that mean its Tuner 2?

No, the 2068 is the chanid.  This is probably the second source you
setup (whether you have 2 or had 1 and deleted it and added another).

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Re: [mythtv-users] User jobs not in queue

2006-01-17 Thread Chris Pinkham

 I don't see any job queue options under recording profiles.  Here are
 all the places I see options regarding job queues:

What version are you running?  It is in there since before 0.18, it will say
Run 'Nuvexport Job' or Do not run 'Nuvexport job' for new recordings.
They are on the Post Recording Processing page of the recording
profile setup.

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[mythtv-users] Looking for good specifications for mythTV

2006-01-17 Thread Chris Weisiger

What are some good specs for a mythTV box..I have seen specs for high 
end machines doing multiple
recordingsI am not looking into doing such things...

All i am looking for is to record a single channel while watching 
itand the possibility to pause live tv...
just a basic recording box

I am looking into buiding a mini-itx box with laptop componentsslim 
line cd/dvd, laptop hard drive, dimm or sodimm memory
depending on what type of mini-itx motherboard i get or is recommended

What is the lowest possible processor speed to accomplish recording and 
pausing live tv

i was looking into getting a mini-itx with a 1.3 processor? and a 
pvr-350 card?

i know memory helps the system..so i was planning on maxing out the 
memory..i found
a mini-itx board that can support 2 gig or ram...and the hard drive 
space of course is not
an issue for me to deal with...it is basically the processor speed.. 
being this is the first
attempt at creating a mythTV box...

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Re: [mythtv-users] Looking for good specifications for mythTV

2006-01-17 Thread Chris Ribe

Are you going to be doing HD?

If not, you can't go too cheap. If you are only interested in SD
programming a good rule of thumb is probrably, If you can buy it new,
it's overkill.

The only components you really need to put any thought into are the
capture card(s) and hard disks(s). And the video card,kind
of. More storage is better.

Regarding memory specifically, if it is really going to be a dedicated
Myth box, there is no reason to waste money buying 2GB of memory.
512MB would be more than enough.

If you are going to use a television for your monitor, don't worry about a monitor.

Otherwise, get an NVidia 5xxx video card.

To do simultaneous playback and recording, your processor should be at least a 600Mhz PIII or equivalent.

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What are some good specs for a mythTV box..I have seen specs for highend machines doing multiplerecordingsI am not looking into doing such things...All i am looking for is to record a single channel while watching
itand the possibility to pause live tv...just a basic recording boxI am looking into buiding a mini-itx box with laptop componentsslimline cd/dvd, laptop hard drive, dimm or sodimm memory
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Re: [mythtv-users] Looking for good specifications for mythTV

2006-01-17 Thread Chris Weisiger

The thing is with the mini-itx stuff is that I have an old NES and i was 
reading about
building mini-itx systems and thought while im building it...to build it 
in a way
to use it as a pvr system.which i was looking at getting a mini-itx 
board
that can handle a 1.3 or so processor 

This is the motherboard that I was looking into gettingthats if i 
cant locate
a mini-itx to handle a pentium processor



Gavin Haslett wrote:

So long as you're not trying any HD content, this is probably good
(though that one's obvious given the 350). I run mine on an AMD 800 with
768MB RAM and it runs like a champ. Single PVR-250 and an NVIDIA card
running XvMC for playback. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Weisiger
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:02 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: [mythtv-users] Looking for good specifications for mythTV

What are some good specs for a mythTV box..I have seen specs for high
end machines doing multiple recordingsI am not looking into doing
such things...

All i am looking for is to record a single channel while watching
itand the possibility to pause live tv...
just a basic recording box

I am looking into buiding a mini-itx box with laptop componentsslim
line cd/dvd, laptop hard drive, dimm or sodimm memory depending on what
type of mini-itx motherboard i get or is recommended

What is the lowest possible processor speed to accomplish recording and
pausing live tv

i was looking into getting a mini-itx with a 1.3 processor? and a
pvr-350 card?

i know memory helps the system..so i was planning on maxing out the
memory..i found a mini-itx board that can support 2 gig or ram...and the
hard drive space of course is not an issue for me to deal with...it is
basically the processor speed.. 
being this is the first
attempt at creating a mythTV box...

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Re: [mythtv-users] Looking for good specifications for mythTV

2006-01-17 Thread Chris Weisiger

Here is the link

http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/mini_itx/epia_sp/index.jsp

Chris Weisiger wrote:

The thing is with the mini-itx stuff is that I have an old NES and i was 
reading about
building mini-itx systems and thought while im building it...to build it 
in a way
to use it as a pvr system.which i was looking at getting a mini-itx 
board
that can handle a 1.3 or so processor 

This is the motherboard that I was looking into gettingthats if i 
cant locate
a mini-itx to handle a pentium processor



Gavin Haslett wrote:

  

So long as you're not trying any HD content, this is probably good
(though that one's obvious given the 350). I run mine on an AMD 800 with
768MB RAM and it runs like a champ. Single PVR-250 and an NVIDIA card
running XvMC for playback. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Weisiger
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:02 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: [mythtv-users] Looking for good specifications for mythTV

What are some good specs for a mythTV box..I have seen specs for high
end machines doing multiple recordingsI am not looking into doing
such things...

All i am looking for is to record a single channel while watching
itand the possibility to pause live tv...
just a basic recording box

I am looking into buiding a mini-itx box with laptop componentsslim
line cd/dvd, laptop hard drive, dimm or sodimm memory depending on what
type of mini-itx motherboard i get or is recommended

What is the lowest possible processor speed to accomplish recording and
pausing live tv

i was looking into getting a mini-itx with a 1.3 processor? and a
pvr-350 card?

i know memory helps the system..so i was planning on maxing out the
memory..i found a mini-itx board that can support 2 gig or ram...and the
hard drive space of course is not an issue for me to deal with...it is
basically the processor speed.. 
being this is the first
attempt at creating a mythTV box...

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Re: [mythtv-users] Re-record a show that I tell to stop recording?

2006-01-16 Thread chris

On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 01:48:43AM +, Nick wrote:
 I'm wondering if it is not scheduling/recording it again because the
 showing has been marked as having been recorded already, even though
 it did not complete.

This is one of my pet MythTV annoyances.  I don't think shows should
be marked as recorded until the recording is complete.  Sometimes I kill
a recording like the previous poster, but also I had problems for a
while with the back end crashing due to a kernel panic and lost all of
those shows as well.

If you shedule a show and the only one on the schedule has already
started then Myth will grab what it can and consider the job complete.
Likewise, after a reboot it will start recording again (sometimes).  I
don't mind this behavior, but would like to see the episode remain on
the ToDo list until a complete version is captured, at which time the
partials could be deleted.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Scheduler Not Resolving Conflict

2006-01-16 Thread chris

On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 07:35:07AM -0500, Derek Battams wrote:
 The scheduler has marked Letterman in conflict for tonight, even though 
 it could resolve the conflict by choosing a later showing of Colbert.  

Enable Reschedule higher priorities in your setup screen.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Video Database Protection needed

2006-01-16 Thread Chris

I was wondering if a little clarification could be added here about how 
to clear out the database entries once the videos have been deleted or 
moved. Mine still thinks I have them. You mentioned something about a 
prompt.

Thank you,
Chester

Jake wrote:

On 1/13/06, John Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Is there any way to keep a remote frontend from deciding
that videos in the database should be deleted (from the database)
simply because it can't see them (such as a temporary NFS unavailability)?

My video collection was off line when the kid decides to
surf the videos, and seeing none, goes into video manager
and answers yes to the delete all from the database prompt.



that's what the prompt is for.  it used to automatically delete if it
didn't find videos, so now there is a prompt.

not a solution to the problem but i think you can password protect the
settings pages so that at least your kid wouldn't be able to delete
your videos again.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb schedule recordings - possible to add a new type weekday?

 In Mythweb schedule recordings, I can choose options such as 'onetime',
 'daily' and 'weekly', but what about 'weekday' (Mon to Fri)?

Is this a valid schedule type?  Didn't know I was missing one.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb schedule recordings - possible to add a new type weekday?

 I'm trying to record old Simpsons reruns off of Fox Monday - Friday, but
 there doesn't appear to be an option for this type of recording...

Why not record them on weekends, too?

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb shuts down my machine

 One possible way to prevent Mythweb from triggering the backend to shutdown 
 the
 machine is to change 'ANN Playback ' to 'ANN Monitor ' in mythbackend.php.

Except that I believe playback is required for doing stuff like 
grabbing thumbnails (or eventually, streaming recordings themselves).

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb schedule recordings - possible to add a new type weekday?

 Well, my VCR understands 'weekday' as Monday through Friday so
 I don't see why Mythtv, which is supposed to be ALOT smarter
 than a VCR ;-) shouldn't support it, too.

MythTV also understands show names and timeslots.  It's probably just 
never occurred to anyone that someone might want to record something 
ONLY on monday-friday (and personally, I can't see any reason that you'd 
want to, that the smarts in mythtv wouldn't account for)

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Re: [mythtv-users] User jobs not in queue

2006-01-16 Thread Chris Pinkham

 I believe I've setup a user job correctly in
 mythsetup, but the job never shows up in the queue
 (verified with --verbose jobqueue).  

Did you turn them on for the recording profiles for the
shows you are trying to run the job on?   Also, what
happens if you queue a job manually through the 
Watch Recordings screen?

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Re: [mythtv-users] HD-3000 for sale

2006-01-16 Thread Chris Pinkham

 that way. So I'd like to sell my very lightly-used 
 functional card for $150  thought I'd post it here

Isaac's fee for using this mailing list for classified ads is much
higher than eBay's fee.  You should have gone there first.

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Re: [mythtv-users] DVB-T LiveTV not working since update to SVN

2006-01-15 Thread Chris Pinkham

 I was experiencing the dreaded prebuffering pause problems with 0.18.1 
 so after talking with a couple of other guys in the #mythtv-users IRC 
 channel I updated to SVN 8577.  If this means I should go to the dev 
 list, please let me know.

You picked a bad version.  See ticket #1013.  8573 broke DVB because of
locking around the avcodec_open calls.  This was temporarily fixed in 8586, then
8590 rebroke it and was refixed in 8604 I believe.

http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/1013

You should update to at least 8604.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb shuts down my machine

 It does look like mythweb is activating my shutdown script. The backend 
 thinks that the front end has started, but is not active, so starts a 
 shutdown sequence.

Well, considering that mythweb is basically a frontend, that makes 
sense.  Sounds like your script needs a little tweaking.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

 So I did an nuvexport --transcode (however after about 20 hours the
 export still wasn't complete) Is that normal?

transcode is slightly slower than ffmpeg for most stuff, significantly 
slower for mpeg stuff.  imho, the quality from transcode is better, though.

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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

 So it will complete. Hrmm. Its just too slow, think I'd sooner not use
 it. Although that means at the cost of not having the cut list taken
 into account.

cutlist should work fine with ffmpeg.

 It would appear the ubuntu ffmpeg build doesn't support psp, ipod
 nuvexport options. Not compiled with the right switches.

these are semi-broken in nuvexport, too..  they don't work when they 
should.  I'm working on some PSP patches right now, actually..  but you 
still need `ffmpeg -formats` to list PSP as an option. (dunno what to do 
yet about ipod).


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Re: [mythtv-users] playslist for recorded tv?

2006-01-15 Thread Chris Pinkham

 in the watch recordings menu, it's possible to select a recorded
 program, push the right button, and then select add to playlist.


After you tag a few recordings, hit the MENU key and you'll find a
few things you can do with the playlist.

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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

 I had a movie with 10 flagged commericals sections. When I converted
 to mpg using nuxexport with no options (thus using ffmpeg) the cutlist
 of those 10 flagged sections were not removed.

flag != cutlist.

You also have to tell nuvexport to to use the cutlist.  If you did all 
of that and it still didn't work, something's likely up with that 
particular recording and freaking out mythtranscode.

 ipod output would be handy too. If you need any testing, then just
 give us a yell. Would be happy to help in anyway possible.

Yeah, working on that, too.  my ipod can't play videos, so it's low on 
my list until someone sends me a patch.

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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

 So commercial flagging is not the same as cutlist? Then how does the
 commercial flagging  become a cutlist to honour at export.

flagging is just flagging.  mythtranscode has a --gencutlist option to 
import the flag list as a cutlist (I still need to include this in 
nuvexport), or if you're like me and don't trust the flagging to be 
completely accurate (it's not), start watching the show in the frontend, 
press E to edit, then Z to import the flag list as a cutlist, then 
adjust it as needed and press E to exit back to watching (then esc to go 
back to the menu)...

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Re: [mythtv-users] Mythweb shuts down my machine