Re: Firewire+PVR on same cablebox? WAS [Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200]
On Wed, 2005-10-19 at 16:09 -0400, Steve Adeff wrote: snip I got HD working. but no ESPNHD, TNTHD, etc. ugh. I also notice that the only channels I can get are the OTA and basic cable package channels. So no digital cable, no spanish package channels (no Fox Sports Espanol, AR!) and no Sports Package channels. Some cable providers do provide everything through the Firewire port (like RCN in Boston); some don't (like Comcast in Boston). Could I setup Myth to use some channels via firewire and some via a PVR card for the same cable box? Good question. I've been struggling with this on and off for some time now, with no real success. You can set up multiple video sources (one for firewire and one for the PVR) and prioritise one of them higher than the other, but you're left with the chance that Myth will (correctly) schedule both tuners to record something simultaneously. It's also easy to mess up a recording if you watch LiveTv while recording, and change channels doing so. At the moment I've decided just to use the PVR (since that gets everything but the HD stuff). The firewire is still very useful for channel change stuff. Regards, Peter ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
So I got my DCT-6200 the other day, bought a firewire cable, connected them got it running so I can capture streams, compiled 6200ch and can change channels. Its amazing how painless my MythTV experience has been, props to all involved. now on to why I responded to this thread... How do I set the speed from 400mbps to 100mbps? Is there any plugctl documentation? I can't seem to find any. also, I notice my box is on node 2, it works and all, and I see many people have this setup. I'm hoping anyone that does, if they encountered any issues that I should be aware of? I'd like to make sure it all works and check channels before going through the MythTV process, so any help in this is appreciated! Thanks! Steve On Sunday 16 October 2005 21:00, Alex Brekken wrote: Wow!! Big improvement for me. As I posted earlier, my firewire reliability was only around 60% (at best). Since running these commands I'm batting 100% so far. It's only been a day, but I've tested it quite a bit and haven't had any false starts from either live tv or recordings from firewire. I also changed from point-to-point to broadcast, and changed the speed from 400 mbps to 100 mbps as suggested. I doubt these were the reason for the change since I've played with those settings quite a bit before with no improvement in reliability. Question: since I have no idea what these plugctl commands really do, I'm wondering if they need to be re-run anytime the machine is rebooted...? Thanks Curtis for the great find! I know there's quite a few other Firewire users who have the same reliability problems, so I hope they give this a try. On 10/14/05, Curtis Stanford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I think I've found something that helps with this firewire stuff. See this message: http://www.netzwerk-aktiv.com/pub/doc/newsletters/linux1394-user/html/ 2344.html I followed the advice in the first paragraph and typed: plugctl -n 1 opcr[0].channel=63 plugctl -n 1 opcr[0].bcast_connection=1 Then I set the firewire connection to broadcast, 100Mbps in mythtv- setup. Now, the test-mpeg2 command works EVERY time (don't use the -r 1 argument, just test-mpeg2). Also, mythtv Watch TV command works EVERY time where before it worked maybe 50% of the time or hung. I have yet to see if it helps with my recordings being cut short but I'll let the list know how it goes. If anyone else benefits from this, please post your results. Thanks Curtis ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
Congrats! My box is on Node 1 but I don't think that matters much. You don't need to set the speed with plugctl. I just set it to 100 in the mythtv-setup GUI and the backend sets it for me. I don't think it matters that much what it's set to but 100 is plenty fast enough (not sure about HD??) I'm still having problems with some recordings being cut a bit short, even though there are no errors on the backend. Otherwise, working great! Next stop is to try some HD! Have fun. Curtis On Oct 19, 2005, at 11:40 AM, Steve Adeff wrote: So I got my DCT-6200 the other day, bought a firewire cable, connected them got it running so I can capture streams, compiled 6200ch and can change channels. Its amazing how painless my MythTV experience has been, props to all involved. now on to why I responded to this thread... How do I set the speed from 400mbps to 100mbps? Is there any plugctl documentation? I can't seem to find any. also, I notice my box is on node 2, it works and all, and I see many people have this setup. I'm hoping anyone that does, if they encountered any issues that I should be aware of? I'd like to make sure it all works and check channels before going through the MythTV process, so any help in this is appreciated! Thanks! Steve On Sunday 16 October 2005 21:00, Alex Brekken wrote: Wow!! Big improvement for me. As I posted earlier, my firewire reliability was only around 60% (at best). Since running these commands I'm batting 100% so far. It's only been a day, but I've tested it quite a bit and haven't had any false starts from either live tv or recordings from firewire. I also changed from point-to-point to broadcast, and changed the speed from 400 mbps to 100 mbps as suggested. I doubt these were the reason for the change since I've played with those settings quite a bit before with no improvement in reliability. Question: since I have no idea what these plugctl commands really do, I'm wondering if they need to be re-run anytime the machine is rebooted...? Thanks Curtis for the great find! I know there's quite a few other Firewire users who have the same reliability problems, so I hope they give this a try. On 10/14/05, Curtis Stanford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I think I've found something that helps with this firewire stuff. See this message: http://www.netzwerk-aktiv.com/pub/doc/newsletters/linux1394-user/ html/ 2344.html I followed the advice in the first paragraph and typed: plugctl -n 1 opcr[0].channel=63 plugctl -n 1 opcr[0].bcast_connection=1 Then I set the firewire connection to broadcast, 100Mbps in mythtv- setup. Now, the test-mpeg2 command works EVERY time (don't use the -r 1 argument, just test-mpeg2). Also, mythtv Watch TV command works EVERY time where before it worked maybe 50% of the time or hung. I have yet to see if it helps with my recordings being cut short but I'll let the list know how it goes. If anyone else benefits from this, please post your results. Thanks Curtis ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Firewire+PVR on same cablebox? WAS [Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200]
On Wednesday 19 October 2005 15:14, Curtis Stanford wrote: Congrats! My box is on Node 1 but I don't think that matters much. You don't need to set the speed with plugctl. I just set it to 100 in the mythtv-setup GUI and the backend sets it for me. I don't think it matters that much what it's set to but 100 is plenty fast enough (not sure about HD??) I'm still having problems with some recordings being cut a bit short, even though there are no errors on the backend. Otherwise, working great! Next stop is to try some HD! Have fun. Curtis I got HD working. but no ESPNHD, TNTHD, etc. ugh. I also notice that the only channels I can get are the OTA and basic cable package channels. So no digital cable, no spanish package channels (no Fox Sports Espanol, AR!) and no Sports Package channels. this kinda makes the firewire thing pointless as I could just as easily connect to a PVR-150 at a minor (if any) loss in quality. Could I setup Myth to use some channels via firewire and some via a PVR card for the same cable box? Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: Firewire+PVR on same cablebox? WAS [Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200]
On Wednesday 19 October 2005 16:09, Steve Adeff wrote: On Wednesday 19 October 2005 15:14, Curtis Stanford wrote: Congrats! My box is on Node 1 but I don't think that matters much. You don't need to set the speed with plugctl. I just set it to 100 in the mythtv-setup GUI and the backend sets it for me. I don't think it matters that much what it's set to but 100 is plenty fast enough (not sure about HD??) I'm still having problems with some recordings being cut a bit short, even though there are no errors on the backend. Otherwise, working great! Next stop is to try some HD! Have fun. Curtis I got HD working. but no ESPNHD, TNTHD, etc. ugh. I also notice that the only channels I can get are the OTA and basic cable package channels. So no digital cable, no spanish package channels (no Fox Sports Espanol, AR!) and no Sports Package channels. this kinda makes the firewire thing pointless as I could just as easily connect to a PVR-150 at a minor (if any) loss in quality. Could I setup Myth to use some channels via firewire and some via a PVR card for the same cable box? Steve Hate responding to my own threads but I found this: http://www.indigita.com/products/pdf/iND60C32.pdf it would be nice if the pcHDTV guys made a card with one along with some firewire ports that would allow us to really make use of our cable box. Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
Wow!! Big improvement for me. As I posted earlier, my firewire reliability was only around 60% (at best). Since running these commands I'm batting 100% so far. It's only been a day, but I've tested it quite a bit and haven't had any false starts from either live tv or recordings from firewire. I also changed from point-to-point to broadcast, and changed the speed from 400 mbps to 100 mbps as suggested. I doubt these were the reason for the change since I've played with those settings quite a bit before with no improvement in reliability. Question: since I have no idea what these plugctl commands really do, I'm wondering if they need to be re-run anytime the machine is rebooted...? Thanks Curtis for the great find! I know there's quite a few other Firewire users who have the same reliability problems, so I hope they give this a try. On 10/14/05, Curtis Stanford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I think I've found something that helps with this firewire stuff.See this message:http://www.netzwerk-aktiv.com/pub/doc/newsletters/linux1394-user/html/ 2344.htmlI followed the advice in the first paragraph and typed:plugctl -n 1 opcr[0].channel=63plugctl -n 1 opcr[0].bcast_connection=1Then I set the firewire connection to broadcast, 100Mbps in mythtv- setup.Now, the test-mpeg2 command works EVERY time (don't use the -r 1argument, just test-mpeg2). Also, mythtv Watch TV command worksEVERY time where before it worked maybe 50% of the time or hung. I have yet to see if it helps with my recordings being cut short butI'll let the list know how it goes.If anyone else benefits from this, please post your results.ThanksCurtis ___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
Yes, the commands need to be run after a reboot. I'm glad that helped. Curtis On Oct 16, 2005, at 7:00 PM, Alex Brekken wrote: Wow!! Big improvement for me. As I posted earlier, my firewire reliability was only around 60% (at best). Since running these commands I'm batting 100% so far. It's only been a day, but I've tested it quite a bit and haven't had any false starts from either live tv or recordings from firewire. I also changed from point-to-point to broadcast, and changed the speed from 400 mbps to 100 mbps as suggested. I doubt these were the reason for the change since I've played with those settings quite a bit before with no improvement in reliability. Question: since I have no idea what these plugctl commands really do, I'm wondering if they need to be re-run anytime the machine is rebooted...? Thanks Curtis for the great find! I know there's quite a few other Firewire users who have the same reliability problems, so I hope they give this a try. On 10/14/05, Curtis Stanford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I think I've found something that helps with this firewire stuff. See this message: http://www.netzwerk-aktiv.com/pub/doc/newsletters/linux1394-user/html/ 2344.html I followed the advice in the first paragraph and typed: plugctl -n 1 opcr[0].channel=63 plugctl -n 1 opcr[0].bcast_connection=1 Then I set the firewire connection to broadcast, 100Mbps in mythtv- setup. Now, the test-mpeg2 command works EVERY time (don't use the -r 1 argument, just test-mpeg2). Also, mythtv Watch TV command works EVERY time where before it worked maybe 50% of the time or hung. I have yet to see if it helps with my recordings being cut short but I'll let the list know how it goes. If anyone else benefits from this, please post your results. Thanks Curtis ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
Firewire: No Input in 15 seconds [P:0 N:1] (select)Just a thought, but do you get full time reception if you're not using myth?Does the dropout happen always or only at certain times of the day?I'm wondering if you could be experiencing "fading" issues (http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/glossaryA.html#fading)___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
OK, I think I've found something that helps with this firewire stuff. See this message: http://www.netzwerk-aktiv.com/pub/doc/newsletters/linux1394-user/html/ 2344.html I followed the advice in the first paragraph and typed: plugctl -n 1 opcr[0].channel=63 plugctl -n 1 opcr[0].bcast_connection=1 Then I set the firewire connection to broadcast, 100Mbps in mythtv- setup. Now, the test-mpeg2 command works EVERY time (don't use the -r 1 argument, just test-mpeg2). Also, mythtv Watch TV command works EVERY time where before it worked maybe 50% of the time or hung. I have yet to see if it helps with my recordings being cut short but I'll let the list know how it goes. If anyone else benefits from this, please post your results. Thanks Curtis ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
On Thursday 13 October 2005 01:09, Curtis Stanford wrote: On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:04 PM, Donald Oakes wrote: Curtis Stanford wrote: On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:35 PM, Todd Greene wrote: For what its worth, I use the DCT-6200 and Firewire reliably. However, I can't give you my system specifics, since my root partition of my HD crashed yesterday, and I can't boot the system. However, it took a while to get it to work right, and each system reboot (which thankfully wasn't often) required a manual process. I was using the firewire port built-in to the Foxconn motherboard. (1) Run plugreport: . Each time I rebooted, the DCT would show up either in node 0 or node 1 (often changing per reboot). So, for each reboot, I would have to re-run mythtvsetup and change the DCT-6200 node if it had changed. There seemed to be no rhyme or reason as to why it keeps changing nodes on reboots. (2) Get test-mpeg2 to work: On each reboot, I would need to run test-mpeg2 -r [NODE#] mutiple times (This step is KEY!!) until I get some output. You'll know when you get output, its basically a stream of binary junk to stdout. If you don't see output after 1 second, press ctrl-c and try again. With 10 tries, you'll get it to work. (3) Now start mythbackend, and it should work reliably until the next reboot. Hope this is helpful. Once I rebuilt my machine with a new HD, I'll be happy to answer specific config questions... -- Todd Yes, I do all of these things as well. However, it doesn't work reliably for me even after these steps. Thanks Todd Curtis I have the same difficulty as you, Curtis. I've even written a program to automatically run test-mpeg2 until success each time the channel is changed. Recording is still about 50% reliable via firewire. - Donald So what's the difference between us and the people who seem to have it working 100% ? I'm still thinking it may be the card or perhaps the linux driver. I'm hoping anyone who is having success with this mail in with their configurations. Curtis I was going to ask the same thing, I'm getting a firewire cable box soon and hope to get it working. I don't run Fedora, so I won't be using the ATrpms people talk about, but it would be interesting to get further information on this, if its the firewire chipset, the compilation of MythTV, the DCT box itself, etc I'll be able to throw my 2cents in when I get my card. Steve ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
On 10/13/05, Steve Adeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 13 October 2005 01:09, Curtis Stanford wrote: So what's the difference between us and the people who seem to have it working 100% ? I'm still thinking it may be the card or perhaps the linux driver. I'm hoping anyone who is having success with this mail in with their configurations. Curtis I was going to ask the same thing, I'm getting a firewire cable box soon andhope to get it working. I don't run Fedora, so I won't be using the ATrpmspeople talk about, but it would be interesting to get further information on this, if its the firewire chipset, the compilation of MythTV, the DCT boxitself, etcI'll be able to throw my 2cents in when I get my card.Steve___ mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users I run from source but I'm able to record with 100% reliability over firewire. It probably should be noted that I only use the old analog channels (below 100) and not any of the digital channels. 00:0c.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 46) I have libiec61883 installed (no idea the version, its all source and relatively old) libraw1394-1.2.0 libavc1394-0.5.0 gscanbus-0.7.1 kernel 2.6.8.1 You shouldn't need all of that but its working so I haven't done any house cleaning. I do remember that I had to change my node ID manually when I first started using MythTV with firewire, but that seems to have been fixed. -- Devan Lippman devan at lippman dot net ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
On 10/13/05, Devan Lippman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/13/05, Steve Adeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 13 October 2005 01:09, Curtis Stanford wrote: So what's the difference between us and the people who seem to have it working 100% ? I'm still thinking it may be the card or perhaps the linux driver. I'm hoping anyone who is having success with this mail in with their configurations. Curtis I was going to ask the same thing, I'm getting a firewire cable box soon andhope to get it working. I don't run Fedora, so I won't be using the ATrpmspeople talk about, but it would be interesting to get further information on this, if its the firewire chipset, the compilation of MythTV, the DCT boxitself, etcI'll be able to throw my 2cents in when I get my card.Steve___ mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users I run from source but I'm able to record with 100% reliability over firewire. It probably should be noted that I only use the old analog channels (below 100) and not any of the digital channels. 00:0c.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 46) I have libiec61883 installed (no idea the version, its all source and relatively old) libraw1394-1.2.0 libavc1394-0.5.0 gscanbus-0.7.1 kernel 2.6.8.1 You shouldn't need all of that but its working so I haven't done any house cleaning. I do remember that I had to change my node ID manually when I first started using MythTV with firewire, but that seems to have been fixed. -- Devan Lippman devan at lippman dot net Perhaps the ATrpms, are missing some updates that improve FireWire performance?! Dave ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
On Oct 11, 2005, at 20:23, Curtis Stanford wrote: Is anyone seriously using firewire input with a dct-6200 receiver reliably? /me raises hand. I just got mine working a few days ago and when it's working, it's great. However, more often than not, recordings come up short or the channel doesn't change. It hasn't made it through an hour long recording yet without the backend saying: Firewire: No Input in 15 seconds [P:0 N:1] (select) Then the recording stops. If anyone has any experience with this, I'd appreciate a pointer to the component that may be giving me problems. Is it the receiver, mythtv, linux, or my cheap firewire card? My money would be on the firewire card. Your symptoms sound similar to those I saw with the onboard firewire on one of my systems. A different FireWire card (WD one bundled with a drive that I got ages ago) and the FW port on my Audigy sound cards all work great though (currently using the Audigy's port in production). -- Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
Great! Good to know someone is having success with this. Thanks for the response. That was my guess too. Do you happen to know what firewire chipset the good cards use? I'd like to buy one that works. What does 'lspci' say about your firewire card? On Oct 12, 2005, at 12:32 AM, Jarod Wilson wrote: On Oct 11, 2005, at 20:23, Curtis Stanford wrote: Is anyone seriously using firewire input with a dct-6200 receiver reliably? /me raises hand. I just got mine working a few days ago and when it's working, it's great. However, more often than not, recordings come up short or the channel doesn't change. It hasn't made it through an hour long recording yet without the backend saying: Firewire: No Input in 15 seconds [P:0 N:1] (select) Then the recording stops. If anyone has any experience with this, I'd appreciate a pointer to the component that may be giving me problems. Is it the receiver, mythtv, linux, or my cheap firewire card? My money would be on the firewire card. Your symptoms sound similar to those I saw with the onboard firewire on one of my systems. A different FireWire card (WD one bundled with a drive that I got ages ago) and the FW port on my Audigy sound cards all work great though (currently using the Audigy's port in production). -- Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
On 10/11/05, Jarod Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 11, 2005, at 20:23, Curtis Stanford wrote: Is anyone seriously using firewire input with a dct-6200 receiver reliably?/me raises hand. I just got mine working a few days ago and when it's working, it's great. However, more often than not, recordings come up short or the channel doesn't change. It hasn't made it through an hour long recording yet without the backend saying: Firewire: No Input in 15 seconds [P:0 N:1] (select) Then the recording stops. If anyone has any experience with this, I'd appreciate a pointer to the component that may be giving me problems. Is it the receiver, mythtv, linux, or my cheap firewire card?My money would be on the firewire card. Your symptoms sound similarto those I saw with the onboard firewire on one of my systems. Adifferent FireWire card (WD one bundled with a drive that I got ages ago) and the FW port on my Audigy sound cards all work great though(currently using the Audigy's port in production).--Jarod Wilson[EMAIL PROTECTED] Was this using Myth from src?... or running the lastest RPMs posted on ATrpms? I'm running the latest stable (non-bleeding) RPMs, and have the same problems as Curtis. My FireWire card: Kouwell Model KW-1582V - (aka BTC 1394 PCI Card) http://www.kouwell.com.tw/pr-m3.htm#1582v If I recall correctly, it was listed in linux1394.org compatibility list at the time I bought it. Thanks, Dave --Are Your Friends Lemmings? -- http://www.lemmingshirts.com ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
Was this using Myth from src?... or running the lastest RPMs posted on ATrpms? I'm running the latest stable (non-bleeding) RPMs, and have the same problems as Curtis. My FireWire card: Kouwell Model KW-1582V - (aka BTC 1394 PCI Card) http://www.kouwell.com.tw/pr-m3.htm#1582v If I recall correctly, it was listed in linux1394.org compatibility list at the time I bought it. Thanks, Dave Since it will likely be asked: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# rpm -qa | grep myth mythweb-0.18-67.at mythbrowser-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-purplegalaxy-0.20031214-3.at myththemes-0.18-104.at mythtv-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythweather-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-MythCenter-0.17-1.at mythtv-theme-photo-4-6.at mythtv-suite-0.18.1-55.at mythtv-themes-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythtv-backend-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythtv-setup-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythgame-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-isthmus-0.20040804-1.at mythtv-theme-visor-0.16.2-5.at mythmusic-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythnews-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythmkmovie-1.1.4-4.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-MediaCenter-0.17-4.at mythtv-theme-abstract-0.20040910-2.at mythtv-frontend-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythphone-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythplugins-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-sleek-0.35-2.at libmyth-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythvideo-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythgallery-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythdvd-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at Dave ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
For what its worth, I use the DCT-6200 and Firewire reliably. However, I can't give you my system specifics, since my root partition of my HD crashed yesterday, and I can't boot the system. However, it took a while to get it to work right, and each system reboot (which thankfully wasn't often) required a manual process. I was using the firewire port built-in to the Foxconn motherboard. (1) Run plugreport: . Each time I rebooted, the DCT would show up either in node 0 or node 1 (often changing per reboot). So, for each reboot, I would have to re-run mythtvsetup and change the DCT-6200 node if it had changed. There seemed to be no rhyme or reason as to why it keeps changing nodes on reboots. (2) Get test-mpeg2 to work: On each reboot, I would need to run "test-mpeg2 -r [NODE#]" mutiple times (This step is KEY!!) until I get some output. You'll know when you get output, its basically a stream of binary junk to stdout. If you don't see output after 1 second, press ctrl-c and try again. With 10 tries, you'll get it to work. (3) Now start mythbackend, and it should work "reliably" until the next reboot. Hope this is helpful. Once I rebuilt my machine with a new HD, I'll be happy to answer specific config questions... -- Todd Big Wave Dave wrote: Was this using Myth from src?... or running the lastest RPMs posted on ATrpms? I'm running the latest "stable" (non-bleeding) RPMs, and have the same problems as Curtis. My FireWire card: Kouwell Model KW-1582V - (aka BTC 1394 PCI Card) http://www.kouwell.com.tw/pr-m3.htm#1582v If I recall correctly, it was listed in linux1394.org compatibility list at the time I bought it. Thanks, Dave Since it will likely be asked: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# rpm -qa | grep myth mythweb-0.18-67.at mythbrowser-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-purplegalaxy-0.20031214-3.at myththemes-0.18-104.at mythtv-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythweather-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-MythCenter-0.17-1.at mythtv-theme-photo-4-6.at mythtv-suite-0.18.1-55.at mythtv-themes-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythtv-backend-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythtv-setup-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythgame-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-isthmus-0.20040804-1.at mythtv-theme-visor-0.16.2-5.at mythmusic-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythnews-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythmkmovie-1.1.4-4.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-MediaCenter-0.17-4.at mythtv-theme-abstract-0.20040910-2.at mythtv-frontend-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythphone-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythplugins-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-sleek-0.35-2.at libmyth-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythvideo-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythgallery-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythdvd-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at Dave ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
Big Wave Dave wrote: Was this using Myth from src?... or running the lastest RPMs posted on ATrpms? I'm running the latest stable (non-bleeding) RPMs, and have the same problems as Curtis. My FireWire card: Kouwell Model KW-1582V - (aka BTC 1394 PCI Card) http://www.kouwell.com.tw/pr-m3.htm#1582v If I recall correctly, it was listed in linux1394.org compatibility list at the time I bought it. Thanks, Dave Since it will likely be asked: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# rpm -qa | grep myth mythweb-0.18-67.at mythbrowser-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-purplegalaxy-0.20031214-3.at myththemes-0.18-104.at mythtv-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythweather-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-MythCenter-0.17-1.at mythtv-theme-photo-4-6.at mythtv-suite-0.18.1-55.at mythtv-themes-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythtv-backend-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythtv-setup-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythgame-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-isthmus-0.20040804-1.at mythtv-theme-visor-0.16.2-5.at mythmusic-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythnews-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythmkmovie-1.1.4-4.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-MediaCenter-0.17-4.at mythtv-theme-abstract-0.20040910-2.at mythtv-frontend-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythphone-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythplugins-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-sleek-0.35-2.at libmyth-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythvideo-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythgallery-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythdvd-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at DaveI should clarify that mine DOES work about 60-70% of the time. I would obviously like to improve that though. :-) Dave ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
As another data point, I'm running 18.1 on FC3 and have been using FireWire on a DCT-6200 for a few months now. I've got a Belkin FireWire card. The main issue I have is the same that I've seen many other Firewire users complain about, which is often times when starting a recording (or LiveTV) it doesn't actually capture anything. So you get either a zero-size file, or it just times out. If you keep trying it will work, but I would say that roughly 40% of the time it doesn't. Once it DOES start capturing it's great, but it's nowhere near reliable enough for me to use it as anything more than as an experimental thing. Channel-changing, however, does work flawlessly all the time. On 10/12/05, Big Wave Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Big Wave Dave wrote: Was this using Myth from src?... or running the lastest RPMs posted on ATrpms? I'm running the latest stable (non-bleeding) RPMs, and have the same problems as Curtis. My FireWire card: Kouwell Model KW-1582V - (aka BTC 1394 PCI Card) http://www.kouwell.com.tw/pr-m3.htm#1582v If I recall correctly, it was listed in linux1394.org compatibility list at the time I bought it. Thanks, Dave Since it will likely be asked: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mythtv]# rpm -qa | grep myth mythweb-0.18-67.at mythbrowser-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-purplegalaxy-0.20031214-3.at myththemes-0.18-104.at mythtv-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythweather-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-MythCenter-0.17-1.at mythtv-theme-photo-4-6.at mythtv-suite-0.18.1-55.at mythtv-themes-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythtv-backend-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythtv-setup-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythgame-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-isthmus-0.20040804-1.at mythtv-theme-visor-0.16.2-5.at mythmusic-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythnews-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythmkmovie-1.1.4-4.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-MediaCenter-0.17-4.at mythtv-theme-abstract-0.20040910-2.at mythtv-frontend-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythphone-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythplugins-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythtv-theme-sleek-0.35-2.at libmyth-0.18.1-113.rhfc3.at mythvideo-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythgallery-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at mythdvd-0.18.1-112.rhfc3.at DaveI should clarify that mine DOES work about 60-70% of the time. I would obviously like to improve that though. :-) Dave ___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:35 PM, Todd Greene wrote: For what its worth, I use the DCT-6200 and Firewire reliably. However, I can't give you my system specifics, since my root partition of my HD crashed yesterday, and I can't boot the system. However, it took a while to get it to work right, and each system reboot (which thankfully wasn't often) required a manual process. I was using the firewire port built-in to the Foxconn motherboard. (1) Run plugreport: . Each time I rebooted, the DCT would show up either in node 0 or node 1 (often changing per reboot). So, for each reboot, I would have to re-run mythtvsetup and change the DCT-6200 node if it had changed. There seemed to be no rhyme or reason as to why it keeps changing nodes on reboots. (2) Get test-mpeg2 to work: On each reboot, I would need to run test-mpeg2 -r [NODE#] mutiple times (This step is KEY!!) until I get some output. You'll know when you get output, its basically a stream of binary junk to stdout. If you don't see output after 1 second, press ctrl-c and try again. With 10 tries, you'll get it to work. (3) Now start mythbackend, and it should work reliably until the next reboot. Hope this is helpful. Once I rebuilt my machine with a new HD, I'll be happy to answer specific config questions... -- Todd Yes, I do all of these things as well. However, it doesn't work reliably for me even after these steps. Thanks Todd Curtis ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
Curtis Stanford wrote: On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:35 PM, Todd Greene wrote: For what its worth, I use the DCT-6200 and Firewire reliably. However, I can't give you my system specifics, since my root partition of my HD crashed yesterday, and I can't boot the system. However, it took a while to get it to work right, and each system reboot (which thankfully wasn't often) required a manual process. I was using the firewire port built-in to the Foxconn motherboard. (1) Run plugreport: . Each time I rebooted, the DCT would show up either in node 0 or node 1 (often changing per reboot). So, for each reboot, I would have to re-run mythtvsetup and change the DCT-6200 node if it had changed. There seemed to be no rhyme or reason as to why it keeps changing nodes on reboots. (2) Get test-mpeg2 to work: On each reboot, I would need to run test-mpeg2 -r [NODE#] mutiple times (This step is KEY!!) until I get some output. You'll know when you get output, its basically a stream of binary junk to stdout. If you don't see output after 1 second, press ctrl-c and try again. With 10 tries, you'll get it to work. (3) Now start mythbackend, and it should work reliably until the next reboot. Hope this is helpful. Once I rebuilt my machine with a new HD, I'll be happy to answer specific config questions... -- Todd Yes, I do all of these things as well. However, it doesn't work reliably for me even after these steps. Thanks Todd Curtis ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users I have the same difficulty as you, Curtis. I've even written a program to automatically run test-mpeg2 until success each time the channel is changed. Recording is still about 50% reliable via firewire. - Donald ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
On Oct 12, 2005, at 11:04 PM, Donald Oakes wrote: Curtis Stanford wrote: On Oct 12, 2005, at 2:35 PM, Todd Greene wrote: For what its worth, I use the DCT-6200 and Firewire reliably. However, I can't give you my system specifics, since my root partition of my HD crashed yesterday, and I can't boot the system. However, it took a while to get it to work right, and each system reboot (which thankfully wasn't often) required a manual process. I was using the firewire port built-in to the Foxconn motherboard. (1) Run plugreport: . Each time I rebooted, the DCT would show up either in node 0 or node 1 (often changing per reboot). So, for each reboot, I would have to re-run mythtvsetup and change the DCT-6200 node if it had changed. There seemed to be no rhyme or reason as to why it keeps changing nodes on reboots. (2) Get test-mpeg2 to work: On each reboot, I would need to run test-mpeg2 -r [NODE#] mutiple times (This step is KEY!!) until I get some output. You'll know when you get output, its basically a stream of binary junk to stdout. If you don't see output after 1 second, press ctrl-c and try again. With 10 tries, you'll get it to work. (3) Now start mythbackend, and it should work reliably until the next reboot. Hope this is helpful. Once I rebuilt my machine with a new HD, I'll be happy to answer specific config questions... -- Todd Yes, I do all of these things as well. However, it doesn't work reliably for me even after these steps. Thanks Todd Curtis - --- ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users I have the same difficulty as you, Curtis. I've even written a program to automatically run test-mpeg2 until success each time the channel is changed. Recording is still about 50% reliable via firewire. - Donald So what's the difference between us and the people who seem to have it working 100% ? I'm still thinking it may be the card or perhaps the linux driver. I'm hoping anyone who is having success with this mail in with their configurations. Curtis ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Firewire and DCT-6200
Is anyone seriously using firewire input with a dct-6200 receiver reliably? I just got mine working a few days ago and when it's working, it's great. However, more often than not, recordings come up short or the channel doesn't change. It hasn't made it through an hour long recording yet without the backend saying: Firewire: No Input in 15 seconds [P:0 N:1] (select) Then the recording stops. If anyone has any experience with this, I'd appreciate a pointer to the component that may be giving me problems. Is it the receiver, mythtv, linux, or my cheap firewire card? An exhaustive net search brought back similar problems and suggested using broadcast instead of point-to-point, which I did. No improvement. Thanks Curtis Mythtv: latest SVN version Linux: 2.6.13 Motorola DCT-6200 Firewire card with VIA chipset ($20 card) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
