Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Reza Naima]

Sorry; please disregard.
-r

On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 11:30:21PM -0700, Reza Naima sent me this...
> Does anyone know if the video player will play mpeg4 transcoded video in
> nupple format?
> 
> Thnx,
> Reza
> 
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 07:56:33AM -0400, bill peck sent me this...
> > On 10/11/05, MythTV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Do you need the Photobridge HD (HD1500) or is the HD1000 OK? The main
> > > difference I see is the HD1500 has 128MB RAM and the HD1000 is 64MB, but
> > > not
> > > sure if that is much a limitation.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Todd
> > 
> > 
> > The HD1000 and HD1500 are the same model except the 1500 comes with some art
> > packs. The 128 MB your talking about is only available in the REV B models.
> > I don't think any of the older REV A models are around anymore anyway. So
> > you should be good to go. If you are buying in a store then you can look on
> > the bottom of the box (or unit) where it will say REV B.
> > 
> > And I'm using it as a frontend to Myth. I'm using it to watch HD on my SD
> > Sony Wega Tv. It downscales 1080i to 480i beautifully. Hopefully soon I can
> > get a proper HD set.
> > 
> > -Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Gackstatter
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:38 PM
> > > To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
> > > Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless
> > > solution
> > >
> > > I run MythRoku on a Roku Photobridge HD. What is there is easy to install
> > > and works great. MythRoku can use some more work but it is the only HiDef
> > > solution out there. Right now MythRoku only plays recorded shows and you
> > > can pause live TV. You will need a front end on another machine to
> > > schedule
> > > recordings and you can not rewind or FF live TV. This will come with Time
> > > and more people working on the port.
> > >
> > > I will say this I implemented MythTV because of the Roku. I did not want
> > > the noisy box in my media room.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Fuller
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:01 AM
> > > To: Discussion about mythtv
> > > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless
> > > solution
> > >
> > > Todd Ignasiak wrote:
> > >
> > > > One frontend I've been looking into is the "Roku Photobridge HD" (
> > > > http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php ). It's a
> > > > media player for HDTV's. It is Linux based, and has a hardware MPEG2
> > > > decoder onboard. They encourage open source developement on their
> > > > platform, and someone has ported the MythTV frontend.
> > > >
> > > > He has made some big improvements lately, and I'm thinking of picking
> > > > up the Roku box to give it a try. Check out "mythroku" at
> > > > http://mythroku.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > Do you know what mpeg2 decoder chip they use? I didn't see the info at the
> > > site.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Reza Naima]

Does anyone know if the video player will play mpeg4 transcoded video in
nupple format?

Thnx,
Reza

On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 07:56:33AM -0400, bill peck sent me this...
> On 10/11/05, MythTV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Do you need the Photobridge HD (HD1500) or is the HD1000 OK? The main
> > difference I see is the HD1500 has 128MB RAM and the HD1000 is 64MB, but
> > not
> > sure if that is much a limitation.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Todd
> 
> 
> The HD1000 and HD1500 are the same model except the 1500 comes with some art
> packs. The 128 MB your talking about is only available in the REV B models.
> I don't think any of the older REV A models are around anymore anyway. So
> you should be good to go. If you are buying in a store then you can look on
> the bottom of the box (or unit) where it will say REV B.
> 
> And I'm using it as a frontend to Myth. I'm using it to watch HD on my SD
> Sony Wega Tv. It downscales 1080i to 480i beautifully. Hopefully soon I can
> get a proper HD set.
> 
> -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Gackstatter
> > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:38 PM
> > To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
> > Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless
> > solution
> >
> > I run MythRoku on a Roku Photobridge HD. What is there is easy to install
> > and works great. MythRoku can use some more work but it is the only HiDef
> > solution out there. Right now MythRoku only plays recorded shows and you
> > can pause live TV. You will need a front end on another machine to
> > schedule
> > recordings and you can not rewind or FF live TV. This will come with Time
> > and more people working on the port.
> >
> > I will say this I implemented MythTV because of the Roku. I did not want
> > the noisy box in my media room.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Fuller
> > Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:01 AM
> > To: Discussion about mythtv
> > Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless
> > solution
> >
> > Todd Ignasiak wrote:
> >
> > > One frontend I've been looking into is the "Roku Photobridge HD" (
> > > http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php ). It's a
> > > media player for HDTV's. It is Linux based, and has a hardware MPEG2
> > > decoder onboard. They encourage open source developement on their
> > > platform, and someone has ported the MythTV frontend.
> > >
> > > He has made some big improvements lately, and I'm thinking of picking
> > > up the Roku box to give it a try. Check out "mythroku" at
> > > http://mythroku.blogspot.com/
> >
> > Do you know what mpeg2 decoder chip they use? I didn't see the info at the
> > site.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[bill peck]

On 10/12/05, Joe Huffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--- MythTV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Do you need the Photobridge HD (HD1500) or is the> HD1000 OK?  The main> difference I see is the HD1500 has 128MB RAM and the
> HD1000 is 64MB, but not> sure if that is much a limitation.>> Thanks,> Todd>
For live tv you press "info" on the remote which pops up the on screen
info like the current channel and a description of what is
playing.  While this is up you can "browse" to other
channels.  The Roku does support additional remote codes with
something like a harmony remote, but mythroku isn't updated to take
advantage of it yet.

>> -Original Message-> From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf> Of Chris Gackstatter> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:38 PM
> To: 'Discussion about mythtv'> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for> Frontend only fanless> solution>> I run MythRoku on a Roku Photobridge HD.  What is> there is easy to install
> and works great.  MythRoku can use some more work> but it is the only HiDef> solution out there.  Right now MythRoku only plays> recorded shows and you> can pause live TV.  You will need a front end on
> another machine to schedule> recordings and you can not rewind or FF live TV.> This will come with Time> and more people working on the port.>> I will say this I implemented MythTV because of the
> Roku.  I did not want> the noisy box in my media room.>>>>> -Original Message-----> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf> Of Brad Fuller> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:01 AM> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for> Frontend only fanless> solution>> Todd Ignasiak wrote:>> > One frontend I've been looking into is the "Roku> Photobridge HD" (
> >>http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php> ).   It's a> > media player for HDTV's.  It is Linux based, and
> has a hardware MPEG2> > decoder onboard.  They encourage open source> developement on their> > platform, and someone has ported the MythTV> frontend.> >> > He has made some big improvements lately, and I'm
> thinking of picking> > up the Roku box to give it a try.  Check out> "mythroku" at> > http://mythroku.blogspot.com/>> Do you know what mpeg2 decoder chip they use? I
> didn't see the info at the> site.> ___> mythtv-users mailing list> mythtv-users@mythtv.org>
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With live TV, how do you change channels? The remoteappears to be lacking numbers and other functions.Otherwise, this device looks sweet used in conjunctionwith MythTV. I am tempted to sell my frontend and pick
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RE: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Joe Huffner]

--- MythTV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do you need the Photobridge HD (HD1500) or is the
> HD1000 OK?  The main
> difference I see is the HD1500 has 128MB RAM and the
> HD1000 is 64MB, but not
> sure if that is much a limitation.
> 
> Thanks,
> Todd
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Chris Gackstatter
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:38 PM
> To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for
> Frontend only fanless
> solution
> 
> I run MythRoku on a Roku Photobridge HD.  What is
> there is easy to install
> and works great.  MythRoku can use some more work
> but it is the only HiDef
> solution out there.  Right now MythRoku only plays
> recorded shows and you
> can pause live TV.  You will need a front end on
> another machine to schedule
> recordings and you can not rewind or FF live TV. 
> This will come with Time
> and more people working on the port.  
> 
> I will say this I implemented MythTV because of the
> Roku.  I did not want
> the noisy box in my media room.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Brad Fuller
> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:01 AM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for
> Frontend only fanless
> solution
> 
> Todd Ignasiak wrote:
> 
> > One frontend I've been looking into is the "Roku
> Photobridge HD" ( 
> >
>
http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php
> ).   It's a 
> > media player for HDTV's.  It is Linux based, and
> has a hardware MPEG2 
> > decoder onboard.  They encourage open source
> developement on their 
> > platform, and someone has ported the MythTV
> frontend.
> >
> > He has made some big improvements lately, and I'm
> thinking of picking 
> > up the Roku box to give it a try.  Check out
> "mythroku" at 
> > http://mythroku.blogspot.com/
> 
> Do you know what mpeg2 decoder chip they use? I
> didn't see the info at the
> site.
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With live TV, how do you change channels? The remote
appears to be lacking numbers and other functions.
Otherwise, this device looks sweet used in conjunction
with MythTV. I am tempted to sell my frontend and pick
up one of these bad boys.





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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Robert Kulagowski]

MythTV wrote:
I do believe I'm sold.  I've been looking for a good HD front-end (even 
though my HD-3000 isn't operational yet) and this looks perfect!


There's also the Avel LinkPlayer2.  It's a consumer product, non-Myth HD 
frontend.  It plays DivX, Real, MPEG-1/2, Windows Media, etc.  I have 
one, and as long as you understand that it's not going to run the 
MythFrontend it's fine.  You run a daemon on your mythbox called "wizd" 
which the LP2 talks to.  Basically wizd streams the file.  It also 
supports uPNP, so I have it talking to my Windows XP box as well.




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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[bill peck]

On 10/11/05, MythTV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Do you need the Photobridge HD (HD1500) or is the HD1000 OK?  The maindifference I see is the HD1500 has 128MB RAM and the HD1000 is 64MB, but notsure if that is much a limitation.Thanks,Todd

The HD1000 and HD1500 are the same model except the 1500 comes with
some art packs.  The  128 MB your talking about is only
available in the REV B models.  I don't think any of the older REV
A models are around anymore anyway.  So you should be good to
go.  If you are buying in a store then you can look on the bottom
of the box (or unit) where it will say REV B.

And I'm using it as a frontend to Myth.  I'm using it to watch HD
on my SD Sony Wega Tv.  It downscales 1080i to 480i
beautifully.  Hopefully soon I can get a proper HD set.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris GackstatterSent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 2:38 PMTo: 'Discussion about mythtv'Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless
solutionI run MythRoku on a Roku Photobridge HD.  What is there is easy to installand works great.  MythRoku can use some more work but it is the only HiDefsolution out there.  Right now MythRoku only plays recorded shows and you
can pause live TV.  You will need a front end on another machine to schedulerecordings and you can not rewind or FF live TV.  This will come with Timeand more people working on the port.I will say this I implemented MythTV because of the Roku.  I did not want
the noisy box in my media room.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brad FullerSent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:01 AMTo: Discussion about mythtvSubject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanlesssolution
Todd Ignasiak wrote:> One frontend I've been looking into is the "Roku Photobridge HD" (> http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php
 ).   It's a> media player for HDTV's.  It is Linux based, and has a hardware MPEG2> decoder onboard.  They encourage open source developement on their> platform, and someone has ported the MythTV frontend.
>> He has made some big improvements lately, and I'm thinking of picking> up the Roku box to give it a try.  Check out "mythroku" at> http://mythroku.blogspot.com/
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RE: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[MythTV]

Do you need the Photobridge HD (HD1500) or is the HD1000 OK?  The main
difference I see is the HD1500 has 128MB RAM and the HD1000 is 64MB, but not
sure if that is much a limitation.

Thanks,
Todd
 

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solution

I run MythRoku on a Roku Photobridge HD.  What is there is easy to install
and works great.  MythRoku can use some more work but it is the only HiDef
solution out there.  Right now MythRoku only plays recorded shows and you
can pause live TV.  You will need a front end on another machine to schedule
recordings and you can not rewind or FF live TV.  This will come with Time
and more people working on the port.  

I will say this I implemented MythTV because of the Roku.  I did not want
the noisy box in my media room.  




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To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless
solution

Todd Ignasiak wrote:

> One frontend I've been looking into is the "Roku Photobridge HD" ( 
> http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php ).   It's a 
> media player for HDTV's.  It is Linux based, and has a hardware MPEG2 
> decoder onboard.  They encourage open source developement on their 
> platform, and someone has ported the MythTV frontend.
>
> He has made some big improvements lately, and I'm thinking of picking 
> up the Roku box to give it a try.  Check out "mythroku" at 
> http://mythroku.blogspot.com/

Do you know what mpeg2 decoder chip they use? I didn't see the info at the
site.
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RE: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[MythTV]

I do believe I'm sold.  I've been looking for a good 
HD front-end (even though my HD-3000 isn't operational yet) and this looks 
perfect!
 
Is anyone else using it?
 
Thanks!


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris 
GackstatterSent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:23 AMTo: 
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After reading all this 
about the mini-mac and then someone talking about water cooled I am convinced I 
made the right decision to go with the Roku HD1000 photobridge.  

 
 http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php
 
Pros
-  
it is 
relatively cheap -$299
-  
it is 
fanless
-  
build 
specifically for HDTV  but works fine with SDTV as 
well
-  
The 
portion of MythTV that is already done works great (front end  record and 
watch live TV)
-  
The roku 
comes with an remote that will control all of the functions currently available 
for MythRoku (MythTv roku frontend) 
-  
Roku as a 
company is committed to open software and provides a Roku SDK free of 
charge.
-  
Runs other 
great apps for integrating your PC to your Home entertainment center (ie: Slim 
Server and others)
 
 
 
Cons
 
-  
it will 
only run mythTV as a front end
-  
The MythTV 
port is not completely done 
-  
it is new 
and has a small but growing developer base for 
MythTV
 
I use this product 
every day, my young kids use this product, and we all love 
it.
 
Chris
 
 




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On Behalf Of Ricardo 
KleemannSent: Thursday, 
October 06, 2005 11:57 PMTo: 
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for Frontend only fanless solution
 

Hi 
guys,

 

This is not a fanless solution, but 
what do you guys think of this? How does this hardware stack up for 
mythtv?

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856140003

 

It's only $125 with a rebate, just 
add the cpu, memory, disk. It already has a video card with 
TV-out...

 

Ricardo

  
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  Well I'm not sure I'd call the Mini 
  inexpensive (maybe compared to other Mac's), but the form factor is pretty 
  tough to beat.  Is HD even a remote possibility on a Mini, or is it out 
  of the question?  I assume you can't use hardware acceleration like 
  XvMC  If it can't do HD, is the CPU the problem, or the vid 
  card?  I'm just thinking that if I wait a bit, maybe Apple will come out 
  with a next-gen Mini with more power.  
  
  
  On 10/6/05, Jake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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  i remember seeing someone post somewhere, can't 
  remember if it wasthis list or irc or what, that had built the mac mini 
  into their tvhousing.  he had a website with pictures, i think 
  he had some sort ofbig dlp tv but apparently that worked and i thought it 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Steve Adeff]

On Friday 07 October 2005 22:06, Patrick Watson wrote:
> Steve Adeff wrote:
> > On Friday 07 October 2005 20:26, Patrick Watson wrote:
> >> bill peck wrote:
> >>> On 10/7/05, *Bruce Smith* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Will it play shows from the backend that have been transcoded to
> >>> MPEG-4?
> >>> No it will not.  The roku can only decode MPEG1 and MPEG2.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately that kills it for me. MPEG-4 and similar codecs like DivX,
> >> Xvid, etc are a must-have for me. MythMusic and MythGame are nice too.
> >> :)
> >>
> >> Patrick
> >
> > is mpeg-4 a cpu problem or?
>
> I'm not sure if you meant that as a "why doesn't MPEG-4 work?" or a "Why
> is MPEG-4 a must have?"
> As far as why it doesn't work, I have no idea. The only experience I
> have with this device is this email thread. As for my reasons: I
> transcode everything to MPEG-4 so that it doesn't eat up as much disk
> space. Thus, if I were to loose MPEG-4 playback, most of my library
> wouldn't be playable.
>
> Patrick

yea,  I meant why won't it play them. someone else answered that. But I agree 
with you, my front end HAS to be able to play mpeg-4 as I as well archive 
using XviD. Here's waiting for that day!

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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[bill peck]

On 10/7/05, Patrick Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Steve Adeff wrote:> On Friday 07 October 2005 20:26, Patrick Watson wrote:>>> bill peck wrote:> On 10/7/05, *Bruce Smith* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:>> Will it play shows from the backend that have been transcoded to>>> MPEG-4?
>>> No it will not.  The roku can only decode MPEG1 and MPEG2.> Unfortunately that kills it for me. MPEG-4 and similar codecs like DivX,>> Xvid, etc are a must-have for me. MythMusic and MythGame are nice too. :)
 Patrick is mpeg-4 a cpu problem or?I'm not sure if you meant that as a "why doesn't MPEG-4 work?" or a "Whyis MPEG-4 a must have?"As far as why it doesn't work, I have no idea. The only experience I
have with this device is this email thread. As for my reasons: Itranscode everything to MPEG-4 so that it doesn't eat up as much diskspace. Thus, if I were to loose MPEG-4 playback, most of my librarywouldn't be playable.
Patrick__
The reason why it won't work is because the device has a dedicated ASIC
for the Mpeg I/II playback.  This is why it doesn't need a
fan.  The ASIC they are using doesn't know how to decode Mpeg 4.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Patrick Watson]

Steve Adeff wrote:

On Friday 07 October 2005 20:26, Patrick Watson wrote:
  

bill peck wrote:


On 10/7/05, *Bruce Smith* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

Will it play shows from the backend that have been transcoded to
MPEG-4?
No it will not.  The roku can only decode MPEG1 and MPEG2.
  

Unfortunately that kills it for me. MPEG-4 and similar codecs like DivX,
Xvid, etc are a must-have for me. MythMusic and MythGame are nice too. :)

Patrick



is mpeg-4 a cpu problem or?
I'm not sure if you meant that as a "why doesn't MPEG-4 work?" or a "Why 
is MPEG-4 a must have?"
As far as why it doesn't work, I have no idea. The only experience I 
have with this device is this email thread. As for my reasons: I 
transcode everything to MPEG-4 so that it doesn't eat up as much disk 
space. Thus, if I were to loose MPEG-4 playback, most of my library 
wouldn't be playable.


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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Steve Adeff]

On Friday 07 October 2005 20:26, Patrick Watson wrote:
> bill peck wrote:
> > On 10/7/05, *Bruce Smith* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> >
> > Will it play shows from the backend that have been transcoded to
> > MPEG-4?
> > No it will not.  The roku can only decode MPEG1 and MPEG2.
>
> Unfortunately that kills it for me. MPEG-4 and similar codecs like DivX,
> Xvid, etc are a must-have for me. MythMusic and MythGame are nice too. :)
>
> Patrick

is mpeg-4 a cpu problem or?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Patrick Watson]

bill peck wrote:



On 10/7/05, *Bruce Smith* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Will it play shows from the backend that have been transcoded to
MPEG-4?



No it will not.  The roku can only decode MPEG1 and MPEG2.


Unfortunately that kills it for me. MPEG-4 and similar codecs like DivX, 
Xvid, etc are a must-have for me. MythMusic and MythGame are nice too. :)


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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Ricardo Kleemann]

Although... if it's for a frontend only, no need for the PVR card... it
already has the appropriate TV-out card, and I'd assume the audio is fine,
for a frontend machine?

Does it need additional fans to do frontend only ?

How quiet is it without extra fans?

Thanks
Ricardo

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> --- Ricardo Kleemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > This is not a fanless solution, but what do you guys think of this?
> > How does this hardware stack up for mythtv?
> >
> > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856140003
> >
> > It's only $125 with a rebate, just add the cpu, memory, disk. It
> > already has a video card with TV-out...
>
>
> I bought a similar small form factor (SFF) case for my system (also
> Nforce2 chipset).  And it's pretty good, but there are a few serious
> drawbacks to consider:
>
> 1)  Not fanless.  In fact it's going to have at least 2 fans in it,
> maybe more.  My system is quiet for a PC, but pretty darn loud for
> consumer electronics (not a problem in my case).
>
> 2)  Only 1 PCI slot.  This means only one tuner, unless you get a
> double-tuner (like a PVR-500), or use Firewire/USB tuners, or do like
> me and get an old Matrox Marvel off ebay for the AGP slot.
>
> Also, you'd need to make sure that the integrated sound does what you
> need it to do, because you wouldn't be able to add another sound card.
>
>

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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Mark Kundinger]

--- Ricardo Kleemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> This is not a fanless solution, but what do you guys think of this?
> How does this hardware stack up for mythtv?
> 
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856140003
> 
> It's only $125 with a rebate, just add the cpu, memory, disk. It
> already has a video card with TV-out...
 

I bought a similar small form factor (SFF) case for my system (also
Nforce2 chipset).  And it's pretty good, but there are a few serious
drawbacks to consider:

1)  Not fanless.  In fact it's going to have at least 2 fans in it,
maybe more.  My system is quiet for a PC, but pretty darn loud for
consumer electronics (not a problem in my case).

2)  Only 1 PCI slot.  This means only one tuner, unless you get a
double-tuner (like a PVR-500), or use Firewire/USB tuners, or do like
me and get an old Matrox Marvel off ebay for the AGP slot.

Also, you'd need to make sure that the integrated sound does what you
need it to do, because you wouldn't be able to add another sound card.

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RE: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Chris Gackstatter]

I'm not sure it has a USB port ... beyond that you are on your own.



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Can you connect a USB printer to it? This would probably tip me over
the edge into buying one!
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[bill peck]

On 10/7/05, Andrew Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can you connect a USB printer to it? This would probably tip me overthe edge into buying one!

You can but it won't do anything for you.  The usb port on the
device is only for wireless.  In theory if you didn't need to use
the other memory card slots in the front of the machine you could
recompile the kernel with normal usb support but I don't think it would
be worth the effort. 
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Can you connect a USB printer to it? This would probably tip me over
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Steve Adeff]

Is there anything the Roku won't do that a regular MythTV frontend will? This 
seems like the perfect frontend for MythTV, especially for the $300 asking 
price!

Steve

On Friday 07 October 2005 10:44, A JM wrote:
> Chris,
>  How about some insight on installation, setup and what not? It's looking
> very appealing, does it have network access?
>  Thanks,
>
>  On 10/7/05, Chris Gackstatter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  After reading all this about the mini-mac and then someone talking about
> > water cooled I am convinced I made the right decision to go with the Roku
> > HD1000 photobridge.
> >
> >  http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php
> >
> >  Pros
> >
> > - it is relatively cheap -$299
> >
> > - it is fanless
> >
> > - build specifically for HDTV but works fine with SDTV as well
> >
> > - The portion of MythTV that is already done works great (front end
> > record and watch live TV)
> >
> > - The roku comes with an remote that will control all of the functions
> > currently available for MythRoku (MythTv roku frontend)
> >
> > - Roku as a company is committed to open software and provides a Roku SDK
> > free of charge.
> >
> > - Runs other great apps for integrating your PC to your Home
> > entertainment center (ie: Slim Server and others)
> >
> >Cons
> >
> >  - it will only run mythTV as a front end
> >
> > - The MythTV port is not completely done
> >
> > - it is new and has a small but growing developer base for MythTV
> >
> >  I use this product every day, my young kids use this product, and we all
> > love it.
> >
> >  Chris
> >
> >    ----------
> >
> > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Ricardo Kleemann
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:57 PM
> > *To:* Discussion about mythtv
> > *Subject:* Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless
> > solution
> >
> >  Hi guys,
> >
> >  This is not a fanless solution, but what do you guys think of this? How
> > does this hardware stack up for mythtv?
> >
> >  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856140003
> >
> >  It's only $125 with a rebate, just add the cpu, memory, disk. It already
> > has a video card with TV-out...
> >
> >  Ricardo
> >
> >  - Original Message -
> >
> > *From:* Alex Brekken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > *To:* Discussion about mythtv 
> >
> > *Sent:* Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:12 PM
> >
> > *Subject:* Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless
> > solution
> >
> >  Well I'm not sure I'd call the Mini inexpensive (maybe compared to other
> > Mac's), but the form factor is pretty tough to beat. Is HD even a remote
> > possibility on a Mini, or is it out of the question? I assume you can't
> > use hardware acceleration like XvMC If it can't do HD, is the CPU the
> > problem, or the vid card? I'm just thinking that if I wait a bit, maybe
> > Apple will come out with a next-gen Mini with more power.
> >
> >  On 10/6/05, *Jake* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > i remember seeing someone post somewhere, can't remember if it was
> > this list or irc or what, that had built the mac mini into their tv
> > housing. he had a website with pictures, i think he had some sort of
> > big dlp tv but apparently that worked and i thought it was pretty cool
> > at the time.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[bill peck]

On 10/7/05, Bruce Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm intrigued by this box, but I can't find any mention of "Myth" on the web site.

I'm looking for a quiet frontend to replace my noisy PC frontend.
I'm only interested in being able to play shows recorded on my backend,
I don't care about any of the other non-TV Myth components.
I'm only doing standard TV (no HD).

What's it take to get this box working with Myth?
unzip the mythroku file on a network share that the roku can see. edit the text file with your backends ip address.
Thats it.


Will it play shows from the backend that have been transcoded to MPEG-4?

No it will not.  The roku can only decode MPEG1 and MPEG2. 


  - BS
 
  After reading all this about the mini-mac
and then someone talking about water cooled I am convinced I made the right
decision to go with the Roku HD1000 photobridge. 
 




 

http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php

 

Pros

- 
it is
relatively cheap -$299

- 
it is fanless

- 
build specifically
for HDTV  but works fine with SDTV as well

- 
The portion
of MythTV that is already done works great (front end  record and watch
live TV)

- 
The roku
comes with an remote that will control all of the functions currently available
for MythRoku (MythTv roku frontend) 

- 
Roku as
a company is committed to open software and provides a Roku SDK free of charge.

- 
Runs
other great apps for integrating your PC to your Home entertainment center (ie:
Slim Server and others)

 

 

 

Cons

 

- 
it will
only run mythTV as a front end

- 
The
MythTV port is not completely done 

- 
it is
new and has a small but growing developer base for MythTV

 

I use this product every day, my young
kids use this product, and we all love it.

 

Chris

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[Bruce Smith]

I'm intrigued by this box, but I can't find any mention of "Myth" on the web site.

I'm looking for a quiet frontend to replace my noisy PC frontend.
I'm only interested in being able to play shows recorded on my backend,
I don't care about any of the other non-TV Myth components.
I'm only doing standard TV (no HD).

What's it take to get this box working with Myth?

Will it play shows from the backend that have been transcoded to MPEG-4?

  - BS
 
  After reading all this about the mini-mac
and then someone talking about water cooled I am convinced I made the right
decision to go with the Roku HD1000 photobridge. 
 




 
http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php

 

Pros

- 
it is
relatively cheap -$299

- 
it is fanless

- 
build specifically
for HDTV  but works fine with SDTV as well

- 
The portion
of MythTV that is already done works great (front end  record and watch
live TV)

- 
The roku
comes with an remote that will control all of the functions currently available
for MythRoku (MythTv roku frontend) 

- 
Roku as
a company is committed to open software and provides a Roku SDK free of charge.

- 
Runs
other great apps for integrating your PC to your Home entertainment center (ie:
Slim Server and others)

 

 

 

Cons

 

- 
it will
only run mythTV as a front end

- 
The
MythTV port is not completely done 

- 
it is
new and has a small but growing developer base for MythTV

 

I use this product every day, my young
kids use this product, and we all love it.

 

Chris
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[A JM]

Chris,
 
How about some insight on installation, setup and what not? It's looking very appealing, does it have network access?
 
Thanks, 
On 10/7/05, Chris Gackstatter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


After reading all this about the mini-mac and then someone talking about water cooled I am convinced I made the right decision to go with the Roku HD1000 photobridge.  

 
 
http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php
 
Pros
-  
it is relatively cheap -$299
-  
it is fanless
-  
build specifically for HDTV  but works fine with SDTV as well
-  
The portion of MythTV that is already done works great (front end  record and watch live TV)

-  
The roku comes with an remote that will control all of the functions currently available for MythRoku (MythTv roku frontend) 

-  
Roku as a company is committed to open software and provides a Roku SDK free of charge.

-  
Runs other great apps for integrating your PC to your Home entertainment center (ie: Slim Server and others)

 
 
 
Cons
 
-  
it will only run mythTV as a front end
-  
The MythTV port is not completely done 
-  
it is new and has a small but growing developer base for MythTV
 
I use this product every day, my young kids use this product, and we all love it.
 
Chris
 
 




From: 
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On Behalf Of Ricardo KleemannSent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 11:57 PMTo: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution
 

Hi guys,

 

This is not a fanless solution, but what do you guys think of this? How does this hardware stack up for mythtv?

 


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856140003

 

It's only $125 with a rebate, just add the cpu, memory, disk. It already has a video card with TV-out...

 

Ricardo



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To: 
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Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:12 PM


Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution


 
Well I'm not sure I'd call the Mini inexpensive (maybe compared to other Mac's), but the form factor is pretty tough to beat.  Is HD even a remote possibility on a Mini, or is it out of the question?  I assume you can't use hardware acceleration like XvMC  If it can't do HD, is the CPU the problem, or the vid card?  I'm just thinking that if I wait a bit, maybe Apple will come out with a next-gen Mini with more power.  


On 10/6/05, Jake <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
i remember seeing someone post somewhere, can't remember if it wasthis list or irc or what, that had built the mac mini into their tvhousing.  he had a website with pictures, i think he had some sort of
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RE: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Chris Gackstatter]

After reading all this about the mini-mac
and then someone talking about water cooled I am convinced I made the right
decision to go with the Roku HD1000 photobridge.  

 

 http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php

 

Pros

- 
it is
relatively cheap -$299

- 
it is fanless

- 
build specifically
for HDTV  but works fine with SDTV as well

- 
The portion
of MythTV that is already done works great (front end  record and watch
live TV)

- 
The roku
comes with an remote that will control all of the functions currently available
for MythRoku (MythTv roku frontend) 

- 
Roku as
a company is committed to open software and provides a Roku SDK free of charge.

- 
Runs
other great apps for integrating your PC to your Home entertainment center (ie:
Slim Server and others)

 

 

 

Cons

 

- 
it will
only run mythTV as a front end

- 
The
MythTV port is not completely done 

- 
it is
new and has a small but growing developer base for MythTV

 

I use this product every day, my young
kids use this product, and we all love it.

 

Chris

 

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ricardo Kleemann
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005
11:57 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need
suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution



 



Hi guys,





 





This is not a fanless solution, but what do you guys think
of this? How does this hardware stack up for mythtv?





 





http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856140003





 





It's only $125 with a rebate, just add the cpu, memory,
disk. It already has a video card with TV-out...





 





Ricardo







- Original Message - 





From: Alex Brekken 





To: Discussion
about mythtv 





Sent: Thursday, October
06, 2005 6:12 PM





Subject: Re: [mythtv-users]
Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution





 



Well I'm not sure I'd
call the Mini inexpensive (maybe compared to other Mac's), but the form factor
is pretty tough to beat.  Is HD even a remote possibility on a Mini, or is
it out of the question?  I assume you can't use hardware acceleration like
XvMC  If it can't do HD, is the CPU the problem, or the vid
card?  I'm just thinking that if I wait a bit, maybe Apple will come out
with a next-gen Mini with more power.  





On 10/6/05, Jake
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


i remember seeing someone post somewhere, can't remember if it was
this list or irc or what, that had built the mac mini into their tv
housing.  he had a website with pictures, i think he had some sort of
big dlp tv but apparently that worked and i thought it was pretty cool 
at the time.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Ricardo Kleemann]

Hi guys,
 
This is not a fanless solution, but what do you 
guys think of this? How does this hardware stack up for mythtv?
 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16856140003
 
It's only $125 with a rebate, just add the cpu, 
memory, disk. It already has a video card with TV-out...
 
Ricardo

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  To: Discussion about mythtv 
  Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 6:12 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need 
  suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution
  Well I'm not sure I'd call the Mini inexpensive (maybe compared 
  to other Mac's), but the form factor is pretty tough to beat.  Is HD even 
  a remote possibility on a Mini, or is it out of the question?  I assume 
  you can't use hardware acceleration like XvMC  If it can't do HD, is 
  the CPU the problem, or the vid card?  I'm just thinking that if I wait a 
  bit, maybe Apple will come out with a next-gen Mini with more power.  
  
  On 10/6/05, Jake 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:
  i 
remember seeing someone post somewhere, can't remember if it wasthis 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Robert Denier]

For the truly desperate to be noise free, well water cooling can do it.
That is assuming you can do something with the water lines.  In the best
case scenario perhaps you can slip them down in the basement and do the
other half of your loop there, assuming you have a basement and all
that.

Personally, even though I run a crude water cooling setup, I think its
too much trouble for most...  In hindsight I wonder if it was worth it..



On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 18:53 -0700, Reza Naima wrote:
> I used myhthv on my mini, and it sucked at 1600x1200.  I think it's way
> under powered for mythtv, personally.  I sold my mini and bought a
> pundit-r, but that's too loud to use as a frontend.  So I'm looking for
> something else now.
> 
> Reza
> 
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:13:11PM -0400, Todd Houle sent me this...
> > The Mac Mini is a low cost Macintosh ($500).  It is just a small  
> > computer (2inches x 6.5 in x 6.5 in.).  It does not come with a  
> > keyboard, mouse, monitor or enough RAM.  It is designed to be fully  
> > functional, but inexpensive- and it's quiet.  I think it comes with a  
> > bit small of a hard drive and not enough RAM.  The system bus may be  
> > a little slower than other computers as well, but I'm sure it works  
> > for MythFrontEnd just fine.  If you're serious, I'll pick one up to  
> > test on (I'm an Apple guy).  Mac is a unix machine so it's not too  
> > different from other unixes out there (which is why Myth could be  
> > ported to it).
> > 
> > The mini has DVI out and an included DVI to VGA adapter.  An S video  
> > out adapter is $19.  There's a nice port of MythFrontEnd out there so  
> > I can just run it on my Mac laptop and point it to my Linux backend.
> > 
> > And I do run MythOnMac on my laptop - over wireless even.  I have an  
> > old 802.11b router so I get a 1/2 second pause every 3 seconds of  
> > show.  Kinda annoying, but to watch the game and keep up on the score  
> > while i wash dishes, it works just fine.  Someday I'll get an 802.11g  
> > router and I hope that'll fix it.
> > 
> > http://www.apple.com/macmini/
> > http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MythOnMacOsx
> > 
> > Todd
> > 
> > On Oct 6, 2005, at 6:09 PM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote:
> > 
> > >Thanks Todd,
> > >
> > >Which version of the mac is the "mini"? I'm sorry I'm not too  
> > >familiar with Macs, I'm just interested in finding out more about  
> > >different alternatives for frontends. Is this an older mac? Does it  
> > >already come with an appropriate video card?
> > >
> > >It's awesome to think mythtv can run on a laptop...!
> > >
> > >Ricardo
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: Todd Houle
> > >To: Discussion about mythtv
> > >Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:04 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only  
> > >fanless solution
> > >
> > >I'm running a front end (not to TV) on my Mac G4 laptop (1.6Ghz)-  
> > >which has a hair more power than the mini.  Here, I'm using 33% of  
> > >my CPU when watching a show.  The show is recorded with a PVR350 at  
> > >high quality (720x480?).  Seeing as the mini is only a little less  
> > >brainy than this machine, I think it would work just fine as a  
> > >front end.  I don't know anything about HDTV though.  The S-video  
> > >output adapter is an optional purchase for $19; it comes with DVI  
> > >and VGA output.
> > >
> > >btw- on a remote front end, when I pause live tv, that's still  
> > >using the buffer defined on the back end, right?  Starting a show,  
> > >I hear the hard drive buzzing away in my laptop...
> > >
> > >   Todd
> > >
> > >On Oct 6, 2005, at 12:42 PM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote:
> > >
> > >>Does this mini-mac solution work well for a frontend?
> > >>
> > >>What model / version of the mac is this?
> > >>
> > >>Ricardo
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Reza Naima]

As it's unix, you can run a native mythtv install on it.  However, I
also tried it with a linux ppc install, and they both were lacking.
My advice is to look elsewhere, but ymmv.

Reza

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:53:24PM -0700, Brad Fuller sent me this...
> Jon Vanderwoude wrote:
> 
> >I've got a mini-mac I've used as a front end, technically there is
> >supposedly a fan in there but I've never heard it and I can't feel any
> >air moving around the vents in the back unless I put a cd/dvd in
> >there.
> > 
> >
> Do people with mac-minis put Linux on them? Or do you run OSX?
> 
> And, if you run Linux, was it easy to install?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Reza Naima]

I used myhthv on my mini, and it sucked at 1600x1200.  I think it's way
under powered for mythtv, personally.  I sold my mini and bought a
pundit-r, but that's too loud to use as a frontend.  So I'm looking for
something else now.

Reza

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 07:13:11PM -0400, Todd Houle sent me this...
> The Mac Mini is a low cost Macintosh ($500).  It is just a small  
> computer (2inches x 6.5 in x 6.5 in.).  It does not come with a  
> keyboard, mouse, monitor or enough RAM.  It is designed to be fully  
> functional, but inexpensive- and it's quiet.  I think it comes with a  
> bit small of a hard drive and not enough RAM.  The system bus may be  
> a little slower than other computers as well, but I'm sure it works  
> for MythFrontEnd just fine.  If you're serious, I'll pick one up to  
> test on (I'm an Apple guy).  Mac is a unix machine so it's not too  
> different from other unixes out there (which is why Myth could be  
> ported to it).
> 
> The mini has DVI out and an included DVI to VGA adapter.  An S video  
> out adapter is $19.  There's a nice port of MythFrontEnd out there so  
> I can just run it on my Mac laptop and point it to my Linux backend.
> 
> And I do run MythOnMac on my laptop - over wireless even.  I have an  
> old 802.11b router so I get a 1/2 second pause every 3 seconds of  
> show.  Kinda annoying, but to watch the game and keep up on the score  
> while i wash dishes, it works just fine.  Someday I'll get an 802.11g  
> router and I hope that'll fix it.
> 
> http://www.apple.com/macmini/
> http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MythOnMacOsx
> 
> Todd
> 
> On Oct 6, 2005, at 6:09 PM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote:
> 
> >Thanks Todd,
> >
> >Which version of the mac is the "mini"? I'm sorry I'm not too  
> >familiar with Macs, I'm just interested in finding out more about  
> >different alternatives for frontends. Is this an older mac? Does it  
> >already come with an appropriate video card?
> >
> >It's awesome to think mythtv can run on a laptop...!
> >
> >Ricardo
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Todd Houle
> >To: Discussion about mythtv
> >Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:04 PM
> >Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only  
> >fanless solution
> >
> >I'm running a front end (not to TV) on my Mac G4 laptop (1.6Ghz)-  
> >which has a hair more power than the mini.  Here, I'm using 33% of  
> >my CPU when watching a show.  The show is recorded with a PVR350 at  
> >high quality (720x480?).  Seeing as the mini is only a little less  
> >brainy than this machine, I think it would work just fine as a  
> >front end.  I don't know anything about HDTV though.  The S-video  
> >output adapter is an optional purchase for $19; it comes with DVI  
> >and VGA output.
> >
> >btw- on a remote front end, when I pause live tv, that's still  
> >using the buffer defined on the back end, right?  Starting a show,  
> >I hear the hard drive buzzing away in my laptop...
> >
> >   Todd
> >
> >On Oct 6, 2005, at 12:42 PM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote:
> >
> >>Does this mini-mac solution work well for a frontend?
> >>
> >>What model / version of the mac is this?
> >>
> >>Ricardo
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Alex Brekken]

Well I'm not sure I'd call the Mini inexpensive (maybe compared to
other Mac's), but the form factor is pretty tough to beat.  Is HD
even a remote possibility on a Mini, or is it out of the
question?  I assume you can't use hardware acceleration like
XvMC  If it can't do HD, is the CPU the problem, or the vid
card?  I'm just thinking that if I wait a bit, maybe Apple will
come out with a next-gen Mini with more power.  
On 10/6/05, Jake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Jake]

i remember seeing someone post somewhere, can't remember if it was
this list or irc or what, that had built the mac mini into their tv
housing.  he had a website with pictures, i think he had some sort of
big dlp tv but apparently that worked and i thought it was pretty cool
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Todd Houle]

The Mac Mini is a low cost Macintosh ($500).  It is just a small computer (2inches x 6.5 in x 6.5 in.).  It does not come with a keyboard, mouse, monitor or enough RAM.  It is designed to be fully functional, but inexpensive- and it's quiet.  I think it comes with a bit small of a hard drive and not enough RAM.  The system bus may be a little slower than other computers as well, but I'm sure it works for MythFrontEnd just fine.  If you're serious, I'll pick one up to test on (I'm an Apple guy).  Mac is a unix machine so it's not too different from other unixes out there (which is why Myth could be ported to it).  The mini has DVI out and an included DVI to VGA adapter.  An S video out adapter is $19.  There's a nice port of MythFrontEnd out there so I can just run it on my Mac laptop and point it to my Linux backend.  And I do run MythOnMac on my laptop - over wireless even.  I have an old 802.11b router so I get a 1/2 second pause every 3 seconds of show.  Kinda annoying, but to watch the game and keep up on the score while i wash dishes, it works just fine.  Someday I'll get an 802.11g router and I hope that'll fix it.  http://www.apple.com/macmini/http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MythOnMacOsxToddOn Oct 6, 2005, at 6:09 PM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: Thanks Todd,   Which version of the mac is the "mini"? I'm sorry I'm not too familiar with Macs, I'm just interested in finding out more about different alternatives for frontends. Is this an older mac? Does it already come with an appropriate video card?   It's awesome to think mythtv can run on a laptop...!   Ricardo   - Original Message -   From:   Todd Houle To: Discussion about mythtv   Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:04   PM  Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need   suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution  I'm running a front end (not to TV) on my Mac G4 laptop   (1.6Ghz)- which has a hair more power than the mini.  Here, I'm using 33%   of my CPU when watching a show.  The show is recorded with a PVR350 at   high quality (720x480?).  Seeing as the mini is only a little less brainy   than this machine, I think it would work just fine as a front end.  I   don't know anything about HDTV though.  The S-video output adapter is an   optional purchase for $19; it comes with DVI and VGA output.  btw- on a remote front end, when I pause live tv, that's still using the   buffer defined on the back end, right?  Starting a show, I hear the hard   drive buzzing away in my laptop...   Todd  On Oct 6, 2005, at 12:42 PM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote:  Does this mini-mac solution work well for a frontend?What model / version of the mac is this?Ricardo  __Todd HouleApple Certified System   Administrator   ___mythtv-users mailing   listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Brad Fuller]

Jon Vanderwoude wrote:


I've got a mini-mac I've used as a front end, technically there is
supposedly a fan in there but I've never heard it and I can't feel any
air moving around the vents in the back unless I put a cd/dvd in
there.
 


Do people with mac-minis put Linux on them? Or do you run OSX?

And, if you run Linux, was it easy to install?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Carl Fongheiser]

On 10/6/05, Ricardo Kleemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







Thanks Todd,
 
Which version of the mac is the "mini"? I'm sorry 
I'm not too familiar with Macs, I'm just interested in finding out more about 
different alternatives for frontends. Is this an older mac? Does it already come 
with an appropriate video card?
 
It's awesome to think mythtv can run on a 
laptop...!

The Mini is a relatively new Mac, actually.  Very small, very
quiet,  fairly cheap ($500),  and relatively fast.  It
has built-in Radeon 9200 video.  As mentioned earlier, there's an
S-Video adapter available for it for a nominal charge.

Carl Fongheiser

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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Ricardo Kleemann]

Thanks Todd,
 
Which version of the mac is the "mini"? I'm sorry 
I'm not too familiar with Macs, I'm just interested in finding out more about 
different alternatives for frontends. Is this an older mac? Does it already come 
with an appropriate video card?
 
It's awesome to think mythtv can run on a 
laptop...!
 
Ricardo

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Todd Houle 
  
  To: Discussion about mythtv 
  Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:04 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need 
  suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution
  I'm running a front end (not to TV) on my Mac G4 laptop 
  (1.6Ghz)- which has a hair more power than the mini.  Here, I'm using 33% 
  of my CPU when watching a show.  The show is recorded with a PVR350 at 
  high quality (720x480?).  Seeing as the mini is only a little less brainy 
  than this machine, I think it would work just fine as a front end.  I 
  don't know anything about HDTV though.  The S-video output adapter is an 
  optional purchase for $19; it comes with DVI and VGA output.  
  
  btw- on a remote front end, when I pause live tv, that's still using the 
  buffer defined on the back end, right?  Starting a show, I hear the hard 
  drive buzzing away in my laptop...
  
     Todd
  
  
  On Oct 6, 2005, at 12:42 PM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote:
  
Does this mini-mac solution work well for a 
frontend?

What model / version of the mac is this?

Ricardo

  
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

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I'm running a front end (not to TV) on my Mac G4 laptop (1.6Ghz)- which has a hair more power than the mini.  Here, I'm using 33% of my CPU when watching a show.  The show is recorded with a PVR350 at high quality (720x480?).  Seeing as the mini is only a little less brainy than this machine, I think it would work just fine as a front end.  I don't know anything about HDTV though.  The S-video output adapter is an optional purchase for $19; it comes with DVI and VGA output.  btw- on a remote front end, when I pause live tv, that's still using the buffer defined on the back end, right?  Starting a show, I hear the hard drive buzzing away in my laptop...   ToddOn Oct 6, 2005, at 12:42 PM, Ricardo Kleemann wrote:Does this mini-mac solution work well for a frontend?What model / version of the mac is this?Ricardo __ Todd Houle Apple Certified System Administrator   ___
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RE: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Chris Gackstatter]

I run MythRoku on a Roku Photobridge HD.  What is there is easy to install
and works great.  MythRoku can use some more work but it is the only HiDef
solution out there.  Right now MythRoku only plays recorded shows and you
can pause live TV.  You will need a front end on another machine to schedule
recordings and you can not rewind or FF live TV.  This will come with Time
and more people working on the port.  

I will say this I implemented MythTV because of the Roku.  I did not want
the noisy box in my media room.  




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Todd Ignasiak wrote:

> One frontend I've been looking into is the "Roku Photobridge HD" ( 
> http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php ).   It's a 
> media player for HDTV's.  It is Linux based, and has a hardware MPEG2 
> decoder onboard.  They encourage open source developement on their 
> platform, and someone has ported the MythTV frontend.
>
> He has made some big improvements lately, and I'm thinking of picking 
> up the Roku box to give it a try.  Check out "mythroku" at  
> http://mythroku.blogspot.com/

Do you know what mpeg2 decoder chip they use? I didn't see the info at 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Brad Fuller]

Todd Ignasiak wrote:

One frontend I've been looking into is the "Roku Photobridge HD" ( 
http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php ).   It's a 
media player for HDTV's.  It is Linux based, and has a hardware MPEG2 
decoder onboard.  They encourage open source developement on their 
platform, and someone has ported the MythTV frontend.


He has made some big improvements lately, and I'm thinking of picking 
up the Roku box to give it a try.  Check out "mythroku" at  
http://mythroku.blogspot.com/


Do you know what mpeg2 decoder chip they use? I didn't see the info at 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Ricardo Kleemann]

Does this mini-mac solution work well for a frontend?

What model / version of the mac is this?

Ricardo

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From: "Jon Vanderwoude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion about mythtv" 
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless
solution


On 10/5/05, Reza Naima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone know of a good, inexpensive fanless frontend barebones system I
> get get for mythtv?  Something with a bit of extra power would be good
> for the HD viewing.  And most importantly, something with some decently
> supported hardware - I'm tired of digging through source to get various
> drivers to work better with mythtv.
>
> Thanks!
> Reza
>
>
> p.s. If I can this to boot of PXE (?) so it doesn't need an HD, then
> that would be even better!
>
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I've got a mini-mac I've used as a front end, technically there is
supposedly a fan in there but I've never heard it and I can't feel any
air moving around the vents in the back unless I put a cd/dvd in
there.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Mark Gardner]

> I've got a mini-mac I've used as a front end, technically there is
> supposedly a fan in there but I've never heard it and I can't feel any
> air moving around the vents in the back unless I put a cd/dvd in
> there.

Does the mac mini have the kahonies for HDTV?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Jon Vanderwoude]

On 10/5/05, Reza Naima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone know of a good, inexpensive fanless frontend barebones system I
> get get for mythtv?  Something with a bit of extra power would be good
> for the HD viewing.  And most importantly, something with some decently
> supported hardware - I'm tired of digging through source to get various
> drivers to work better with mythtv.
>
> Thanks!
> Reza
>
>
> p.s. If I can this to boot of PXE (?) so it doesn't need an HD, then
> that would be even better!
>
>
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supposedly a fan in there but I've never heard it and I can't feel any
air moving around the vents in the back unless I put a cd/dvd in
there.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Need suggestion for Frontend only fanless solution

[Todd Ignasiak]

One frontend I've been looking into is the "Roku Photobridge HD" (
http://www.rokulabs.com/products/photobridge/index.php ).  
It's a media player for HDTV's.  It is Linux based, and has a
hardware MPEG2 decoder onboard.  They encourage open source
developement on their platform, and someone has ported the MythTV
frontend.
He has made some big improvements lately, and I'm thinking of picking
up the Roku box to give it a try.  Check out "mythroku" at 
http://mythroku.blogspot.com/




On 10/5/05, Reza Naima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anyone know of a good, inexpensive fanless frontend barebones system Iget get for mythtv?  Something with a bit of extra power would be goodfor the HD viewing.  And most importantly, something with some decently
supported hardware - I'm tired of digging through source to get variousdrivers to work better with mythtv.Thanks!Rezap.s. If I can this to boot of PXE (?) so it doesn't need an HD, thenthat would be even better!
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