Re: [neonixie-l] Changes to eBay Purchase History
On 2023-04-21 19:26, Mac Doktor wrote: Is it just me or is there now no way to see if a seller has left you feedback? It's also much harder to discern whether or not you've left feedback, especially if you have my eyesight. yes, latest update no longer shows any staus, other than payment (I only buy on e-bay) Don't know where you would look for feedback. they also expire old listings sometimes faster than it takes to receive things from across the Ocean. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/0bd0f14d-e27e-9dcf-6768-45d4c804dc71%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Are numitron illegal in UK ???
On 2023-04-13 15:57, Benoit Tourret wrote: I tried to buy some IV-16 in a foreign country, far over the channel. here is the message I just received from ebay: Hello Benoit, The purchase you recently made under the International Delivery Service with could not be completed. The object in question has been restricted. This may be due to import or delivery restrictions, or International Delivery Service eligibility requirements. The item will not be sent to you, nor will it be returned to the seller. I have heard of this happening before with CRTs sold on e-bay But of course their is NO way to get a detailed answer from E-bay. Ebay uses a couple of international shipping services, it used to be Pitney Bowes, although some items I recently got from the States spent a week traveling around Chigago before being remails by an outfit called Ascntia which is apperntly part of SWISS post! the shipping center receives the goods and shipps them in Bulk to the destination country where they are cleared in Bulk and then delivered by one of many Local courier companies. You might see if you can still see the detailed tracking information to see where the shipment got derailed, - ikly at the shipping cneter in the UK in this case. I wonder if the parts were marked "Russia" and so were considered subject to boycot? I wonder if the seller got stiffed for the price of the goods and the shipping to the reship center? -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4372f5a7-b5d3-a3b6-f8c9-08cab6e7500f%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IC Sockets
something in a high vibration environment like a vehicle will give you more problems. Corrosion is another 'issue'.. but if it's that bad you should be coating your boards anyway. back in the 70s I delt with Apple ][ Computers that used socket-ed DIP ICs problems Noted: bad contact - corrosion. loose IC due to vibration. they went for Premium AMP brand sockets to get better retention and some of the ICs left the factory with one or more the pins bent under. this worked at first, BUT made for Flaky INTERMITTENT contacts. Also the socket will have more capacitance then just a plain PC Board, which might round off your signal edges. I think we even had one board where the larger area of the contacts caused a solder bridge, and pulling the socket was more difficult than just pulling an IC would have been. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/db32f8fc-fb0e-28e4-533a-79c74bb97b05%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Interesting NOS Neon bulbs
On 2023-02-12 00:49, gregebert wrote: I had a bulb similar to the NE42, except it had a standard Edison base and worked in a lamp socket. Oddly, no series resistor required; maybe it was hidden inside the base ? One manual I saw years ago indicated that Neons with Screw bases were generally equipped with a built in resistor, and ones with Bayonet bases were not. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4f7724bd-e586-c787-fe8a-28e732a1e780%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Time Code Translator with Nixie "clock" display
On 2023-01-22 10:57, Mac Doktor wrote: I've never seen this one before: https://www.ebay.com/itm/364119298468 <https://www.ebay.com/itm/364119298468> for resolving and displaying SMPTE time code which can be recorded as an audio signal and contains Hours, Minutes, Seconds and Frames for editing audio/visual information. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMPTE_timecode -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/10df2ff8-fa36-6353-0b4c-1139e86c8379%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Why tungsten wire and why weld copper to tungsten? Also book recommendation?
On 2022-12-26 15:26, Miles Thatch wrote: 1) I was watching some nixie production videos and a question came up. Is tungsten wire used because this metal offers the most appropriate seal with glass? One of the videos where a nixie was made in a garage showed that tungstan turns a coppery color when, as commented, properly seals with the glass. Vacuum tubes often used DUMET wire as it had the same cofeficent of expansion as the Glass used to make the seals. https://www.dumet.net/ their are literally BOOKS on the subject of Glass to metal sealing depending on Power levels and temperatures involved. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4b240fb9-8489-e597-f743-99884ff52760%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Bubble Lights and other Christmas Lights of interest
On 2022-11-28 18:29, Mac Doktor wrote: If you're a Lionel train fan, NOMA made the famous talking railroad station. Terry Bowman, KA4HJH "The Mac Doctor" Canadian Tire has the rights to the NOMA name here in Canada these days (and possibly elsewhere) , and uses it for everything from AA batteries to Lawn Mowers. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/76e8e721-7430-3838-fc64-39812e26fb46%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Strange eBay listing text.....
On 2022-10-05 17:17, Mac Doktor wrote: I just clicked the eBay photo for a GR10G Nixie listing and now I wonder what eBay is up to: https://www.ebay.com/itm/115546867348 <https://www.ebay.com/itm/115546867348> the title is funny but clicking the link "Show original title" shows the correct title. Classic screw-up on the part of the seller. Just another day on eBay. More likely e-bay attempting to use AI to be "helpful" May match the number of a CD or something. I am always looking for Darkroom Equipment made by a German company called JOBO. E-bay assumes that I want to see items called HOBO, or BOHO. a certain HO gauge train car seems to come up regularly. And I don't even have a train set. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4aa201db-07a3-9d12-2ec6-79a83349bcb6%40zeusprune.ca.
[neonixie-l] Ukraine Sellers
On 2022-09-05 17:51, Instrument Resources of America wrote: I have not looked into this yet, but my suspicions are that most of what is being shipped from Ukraine must be far removed from the fighting and war zone. Ira. I have seen quite a few listings for Camera and consumer electronic related items from Ukraine. one's I have purchased on E-bay the sellers often write to be sure that I am aware of what might be a two month shipping delay. selling on e-bay is one of the few ways for someone to make money under the invasion conditions. SO far so Good as far as receiving the goods. Currently expecting some empty recording tape reels in pastel colours. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/1dd22ce2-370f-f119-256e-805093b82cab%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] ¿ mystery digivac ? does anyone have any info?
this has an exaple of the Previosu Model : http://www.decadecounter.com/vta/articleview.php?item=68 On 2022-08-25 19:26, Audrey wrote: it uses a 10 pin base instead of a 9 pin base like regular digivacs, If anyone has a clock that uses these or has one of these tubes or has a tung-sol databook please chime in! I would really like to know the part number!toob.jpgfaces.jpgback.jpgbase.jpg I am assuming that it is a T-1704C -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/25204220-97a3-b4ab-8127-134b16d6f0e5%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] FS: 5 NOS 5870
On 2022-08-20 14:25, David Forbes wrote: Max, Thanks for the photo. These JRC tubes look very similar to Japanese Burroughs B-5870 tubes. It's likely they were made in the same factory, but I don't know whose factory it was. JRC? (Japan Radio Company) -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/387f9ccc-eb13-19fa-79de-5e62912326ea%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Dekatrons on Jeopardy! ?
On 2022-08-11 13:27, Jeff Malins wrote: Those are 7236 double triodes. Definitely a vacuum tube. Given the layout, I think that is a picture of the core memory amplifiers on the SAGE (AN/FSQ-7) computer. yep - a it look like a regular tube to me... -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/b90c6452-6381-e77a-c0b1-e9c26be8fdb0%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] It Lives!!!!
On 2022-07-08 16:53, Mac Doktor wrote: What did you use as the thermal sensor? All of the off-the-shelf devices are calibrated in Celsius. For Fahrenheit the number is simply multiplied by 9/5 and offset by 32. I have the opposite problem, my commercial thermostat only can be set in Whole degrees. I prefer 22.5C which can't be set. It is so long ago I forget what those forgnheat numbers mean. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/03af2878-3d98-1abe-8b22-876477e22719%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Neon signs
On 2022-05-12 13:38, liam bartosiewicz wrote: High voltage like that from a microwave oven transformer terrifies me, I’ve only just begun to make things that take power directly from mains and not a wall wart. It’s no wonder why people say MOTs kill more electronics hobbyists than anything else. "big clive tobin" on you tube explains it well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBeSKL9zVro -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/d3c24ed6-ac61-d1c6-bec7-9422f1610b56%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971 tubes for sale - $150 each
On 2022-05-06 08:20, Robert G. Schaffrath wrote: Poly Paks, Meshna, et al. By 1979 used tubes were $4/each and NOS were $5/each at Meshna. I bought a few NOS that I still have but looking back, yes I wish I had bought more. But, honestly, what to do with all of them back then? They were still pretty common. etco in Montreal had them both separate and with the boards, although the boards had the fingers broken off for the gold. I think the whole module was about 10 Bucks CANADIAN. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/79d3f269-54b5-bcac-47cc-28cb9f952095%40zeusprune.ca.
UV Re: [neonixie-l] Info on IN-3B lamps
On 2022-02-16 20:22, Mac Doktor wrote: I need to do some research on that as it spoils my Halloween videos. I have camcorders with both CCD and CMOS imagers and even with the exposure greatly reduced a 15W "black light" fluorescent tube is so bright that the blue and red pixels are fully saturated at 255. A regular "UV" filter (not a skylight filter, although those are supposed to be a more aggressive cut) does not help? I know with some camcorders you would have to tape the filter to the front of the lens. The UV filters were intended to cut the Blue Haze when using Kodachrome, and so some sold these days are just "Protection" filters to keep the lens clean. Might be worth a test with both the UV and Skylight to see what happens. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/b828f971-b935-a083-0ba9-81b9245125ed%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie in Video game spotted.
On 2022-02-01 16:43, Michail Wilson wrote: https://www.reddit.com/r/VRGaming/comments/shtsx0/hell_road_vr_30_sale_on_steam/ whoever designed the game is not only not indicating the multi-planar nature of Nixes, But lso has a motorcycle with a thought controlled throttle, as the rider is changing speed with a gun in their throttle hand. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/08a4777d-66e9-d939-9cf4-2d20f4bfdf4c%40zeusprune.ca.
[neonixie-l] Sylvania Florotron Display. 8894
According to the original data sheet the 8894 is more or less standard 7 segment VFD. clipping from the TCA Data Cache. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/eafe6e9a-ee78-7434-bb80-3f825f09955a%40zeusprune.ca.
the Magic E-mail header Re: [neonixie-l] Just how smart is google groups.
On 2022-01-17 9:24 a.m., Joe Croft wrote: Hi All, This is just a test. Being lazy, I sent an email to the group as a reply to the last post and changing the subject line, but it looks like Google groups grouped it to the original conversation. That or I don't know how to browse the list on google. Either way, it is obviously smarter than I! if you look at the header of an e-mail you will sometimes find "in repley to" and a message number. many mail lists will use that header to group related mails, even if the subject changes slightly. this is why many list moderators will tell you to start a BRAND NEW message with every new topic. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/a828f827-46c1-0190-8cda-90583ed11816%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Vintage Electronic device with Nixies, need help identifying.
On 2021-10-17 3:13 p.m., Victor Dekhtyar wrote: Hey all! The problem is I have no idea what this equipment does or what a dual preset controller is used for. The owner who sold it, also had no idea what it is. If anyone knows anything about this, info is greatly appreciated! My guess, and it is just a guess is that you set a count you want to acheve and every time a an external machine does an operation, the count goes up, and when it reaches the preset number - it tells the machine to stop. Think of a printing press being set to make 500 copies. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/507f31db-4e31-0ea6-6330-e1e9bfe69ba3%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Jeff Thomas Nixie - New Site, B7971 FLW Nixie Kits, Tubes for Sale
On 2021-10-13 8:56 p.m., Christian Thomas wrote: Ah thank you! That WWVB clock is definitely neat! ... 🤣 Pretty cool that there's still the reference radio signal being broadcast to this day. there are quite a few mass produced clocks and weather stations that use that WWVB signal... for example https://www.marathonwatch.com/collections/wall-clock-digital/products/atomic-wall-clock-with-8-timezones?variant=7502742585386 -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/0b777578-6911-d7ba-6a55-9d54a2d8a4b4%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Corvair instrument panel is lit up
On 2021-08-14 9:08 p.m., peter bunge wrote: I built a digital tach for a Corvair many years ago and wrote it up for Radio Electronics. You can see the article here in Radio Electronics Apr 1973 https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Radio-Electronics/70s/1973/Radio-Electronics-1973-04.pdf <https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Radio-Electronics/70s/1973/Radio-Electronics-1973-04.pdf> such fun to look at that issue, even if this snip is enough to make Nixie fans cry. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/c8a25f6d-8988-2c2d-0f8c-a719d6e86fc3%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Interesting kit...
On 2021-04-29 8:26 p.m., Nicholas Stock wrote: 1382%7Cparentrq%3A202a065d1790a69d56791051efa8%7Ciid%3A1 no idea why they use a 7805 that size (aesthetics probably), but interesting nonetheless the big TO-3 regulators were rated for higher current than the TO-220 versions. (although both assume you put them on Heat sinks.) -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/c4295507-15ee-08a5-d079-a6cd6aa4a348%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] OT: How to convert composite video into TTL?
On 2021-04-12 8:59 a.m., Adrian Godwin wrote: To complete the trio : SECAM is Something Essentialy Contrary to the American Method, and PAL is Perfection At Last. I recall hearing it as "Pay (for) Additional Luxury". the early sets would have needed extra circuitry to decode the alternating lines. BUT the explanation at th etime was that microwave inter station transmission in Europe had not been built with colour in mind and PAL had sufficient error correction built in that it did not matter. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7375b1d5-ee66-e37a-1aa2-b049d62e15c3%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Cleaning old circuit boards and components without destroying them - what to use?
On 2021-01-15 6:58 p.m., Adrian Pardini wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 2021 at 20:56, Dekatron42 wrote: Photos doesn't work in Neonixie-L for me and some other memebers so unfortunately I can't include any just yet (time to move from Google Groups as it is working so poorly since their new design?). Photos arrived fine here, I really like the look of those numbered disks. for some reason, the photos arrived at the very bottom of the e-mail. Not the first time I have received a message that way. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/276d0a37-2819-d8b5-3e0d-3c40068323c4%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating film about 1960s colour CRT manufacturing
On 2021-01-12 2:48 p.m., Paul Andrews wrote: I have a whole bunch of Predictas. I'll try it but I doubt it will work because of the large gap between the CRT and the safety glass. Here are the two I have restored: you can get a neon lamp to glow at the Plate cap of the Horizontal output tube, on tube TV sets. NO doubt a Nixie could also glow. while their is a bunch of High voltage on the other side of a CRT screen, it is DC and so will not give out a field. The CRT I am using to type this hardly shows any static when it is running. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6abbe533-97ff-0448-626c-eb4c0deef96b%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: How close together do a controller and crystal need to be?
On 2020-12-27 6:27 p.m., chuckrr wrote: Well even thoughe electricity flowing through a wire is somewhat slower than the speed of light, exactly how much slower is something I do not know about. this install order called for the use of a 100 foot cable. The result was that the newly installed processor complex was unable to synch up with the rest of the switch. Nobody knew why. I calculated that at the speed of light, the 12.352 mHz clock signal would be late at the new processor by around half of a cycle. it is legendary that Rear Admiral Grace Hopper, (the Computer genius who is credited with the early computer language COBAL) used to had out little pieces of wire, cut to the length that would take one Nanosecond to travel. "This Gentlemen is a Nanosecond". she was of course attempting to get computer designers to make the interconnects shorter, as that would allow faster computers. as well as explaining lag in satellite communications. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper#Anecdotes -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2f17c8d8-ab45-77d8-9b7c-dd9027fd660f%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: B7971
On 2020-12-03 4:45 p.m., gregebert wrote: Did anyone in this forum get their 7971's from PolyPaks a long time ago (1970s/1980s) ? I recall they were inexpensive, and many were sold in pairs along with the socket/driver board after being scrapped from Lectrascan units. Good Old ETCO Electronics 464 McGill St. In Montreal. (store is long gone) Only got a couple of boards, which had the fingers broken off. and a bunch of the tubes, Forget the price but proably a couple of bucks (CDN) each. If I could send a message back in time, I would tell my former self to buy a few more, as well as some surplus 2A3, 6L6 and 6V6 tubes. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/a614dcee-c540-e0f5-ca12-270f3c32a7d2%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Who is interested in IN33?
Are here any Canadians who ordered tubes from Yuriy this time of the year, or from other Russian sellers? Did you guys get your orders? How long did it take? The reason I am asking is that my order from Yuri (Shipped on 30 September 2020), according to the tracking, got to Canada on Oct 16: about a month and a half is typical for things I have purchased from the Russian Federation or Ukraine lately. if shipped "registered" which is common when teh sender does not trust their own post office, it shows things down more. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/22d21411-1ca2-8b24-5bf5-1245b5b90f96%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Amperex 8453 Counter tube
On 2020-10-28 8:23 p.m., peter bunge wrote: Ehat does I.C. mean on pin 6? Or is it N/C as in Not Connected? on most tube diagrams - IC means "Internal Connection". the pin is attached to some part of the structure of the tube, and is not to be used. NC is no connection and the socket pin is generally permissible to use as a tie point or terminal. often the IC pin is used as a structural support, but the manufacturer does not want to promise that it will be to the same element on future production. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/aa565f8b-bfda-4b21-c0d5-399e1a4e5fd1%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Dekatron quiz!
On 2020-10-28 7:01 p.m., Jon wrote: The DK25 is the only base-8 counting tube as far as I know, which is why the picture is truly diagnostic of the precise model of tube. Why Rodan made it, I have no idea, but it was a regular catalogue item not some weirdo developmental. a lot of computers used octal notation for binary values, so an 8 position counter may have been useful. even today some internet variables are expressed in Octal. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/f37b5425-4388-0de3-aaf5-ea0349666c8f%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie Siting - Netflix
On 2020-09-17 11:04 p.m., Michail Wilson wrote: Obviously 6:10:47 Early morning. Ha. or that far into the mission. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/62e17dba-a905-0cbf-6dc2-109bb2229b80%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] red lens filter material.
On 2020-09-07 5:56 p.m., Hannah Mishin wrote: if u are looking for filters consider photo filters - along the lines of this: https://www.adorama.com/le026s.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIj6uXyoTY6wIVqwiICR1SzwZsEAQYAiABEgKCcPD_BwE&utm_source=adl-gbase or the "Rosco" equivelents. those are inteneded to be used over stage or studio lights to control the colour of the light, and they come in a literal rainbow of colours. they are fairly thin, and so would likely need some sort of support. The material is cheep enough that you could cut a band for each tube. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/369d1484-2b86-4788-08d8-3ee83112fd6b%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] What is this HV gadget?
On 2020-06-25 11:05 a.m., celzey11 wrote: Supposedly they were designed for testing neon sign components, a quick way to see if a tube failed or not in the field without powering the whole thing up. I got a similar one, it will light up one digit on a nixie tube. also give you an RF burn if you get your finger too close. Good for a 1 cm arc on a good day. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e3946c32-3aad-7aa0-dbd9-e235c7a277ec%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Shipment delays from Ukraine
On 2020-06-16 4:00 a.m., 'Ian Vine' via neonixie-l wrote: I also had a delivery from Ukraine turn up yesterday. r>. received a camera I bought in early April last week from Ukraine, still waiting for one I bought at the same time from Russian Federation. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9db351db-fbe7-6b87-27f6-c93484e4e6d5%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] CRT colors
On 2020-05-29 8:17 p.m., John Snow wrote: Is there a model line of CRT tube that's available in different colors? Alternatively; know of any analogue oscilloscopes that came in different colors? many of the makers did offer other phosphors in 'scope Tubes. BUT normaly the effort was to control the persistence of the glow. Take the P7 used fro Radar displays for example. a very short blue-ultraviolet display, followed by a 2 second or more yellow glow. there was an Orange long phosphor also in some lines. Sylvania even made some tubes with a two colour phosphor - which one glowed depended on a drive signal. this link has scans of some of the standard versions from different firms. http://w140.com/tekwiki/wiki/Phosphor -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/6ff45127-2e20-0698-fd05-c60ceb99a51a%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Shipment delays from Ukraine
then their are the really strange ones. I bought a camera from Ukraine, about the middle of February. No sign of it. complained to the seller twice. by the time i compalined, it was past the date to get a refund form E_bay. today is a holiday here in Canada, but none the less, someone from the post office dropped two e-bay packages on my front porch. one was the Ukrainian camera!!! so I guess you have to go on a lot a faith these days. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/ce839af0-6f3b-c431-f662-499ad9e111e9%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Shipment delays from Ukraine
On 2020-05-14 4:03 p.m., Adam Munich wrote: Can confirm, saw a 3 week customs delay from Pochta customs, now my package has "left russia" May 4th with no updates since. yes, I ordered a Zorki 4 camera from a seller in Ukraine on April 21. Mailed the next day. shows in transit to the country of destination, no further details Enough to make you want to go to the beer store for a case of Slavutych. (Славутич) -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/396e5256-044c-7d3e-022d-5ca6bb3881d6%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Discovered an old advertisment
On 2020-04-03 12:28 a.m., Richard Scales wrote: Whilst looking for something else I discovered this from Wireless World, May 1975, I wonder if they've got any left? B-7971AddWirelessWorld1975.JPG Discount for bulk too ... sigh I bought the few I have from ETCO in Montreal. I am afraid to touch the box were they are stored as the price has gone up so much. some that they had were on boards where the edge connectors had been snapped off. I guess for recover the gold plating. (or maybe just to quickly disassemble the displays.) -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/7dd89be0-db7c-6133-79a6-c165e08687f8%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Restore or scrap for parts?
On 2020-04-01 2:27 p.m., martin martin wrote: Hello all. I was cleaning the office with all my "spare time" and found this! Date code 1974! reminds me of the commodore calculators I used to sell on my first job back in that time period. what is wrong with the unit? as someone else said that style keyboard is subject to contamination and it is easy to clean if you remove about 30 screws and wipe the rubber parts with a swab and rubbing alcohol. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e118407e-dc72-2cd7-59df-96f381027192%40zeusprune.ca.
2n3055 Re: [neonixie-l] Re: tiny little counter at a fair price!
On 2020-03-21 10:18 a.m., 'jf...@my-deja.com' via neonixie-l wrote: Almost every transistor manufacturer sold them. I remember reading that the 2N3055 spec was so loose that they could re-mark their rejects for other part numbers. Conversely, in most of my non-demanding applications (audio amplifiers, power supply pass transistors, etc.), most of the power npn transistors (e..g., TIP35) were interchangeable as long as I did not exceed the actual BVceo. a few numbers were registers with "loose" specs. see attch (RCA 2n3055 is the right hand column). -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/73359ef4-778c-c1c9-3251-4ebe7f92b7d6%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] P12 Phosphor CRT
On 2020-02-12 5:12 p.m., Nicholas Stock wrote: I bought a similar one that allegedly came from Los Alamos...5 gun. I think they made tubes with more guns than that even. I know Sylvania made ones with two screens. change the final anode voltage and the colour changes! believe that those were Military only specials. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/8219d84e-57b9-2218-cb2f-ed450b8fa03f%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] P12 Phosphor CRT
On 2020-02-12 4:49 p.m., Mac Doktor wrote: While we're on the subject, I have a five beam CRT that I snagged on ebay a few years ago. The auction listed the part number as "JAN CGV 7YP2" but the number on the box is "JAN CDU 7YP2" and the date is "195"-something. CDU is Dumont. I'm told came from a Navy radar system and that it's the only one ever made with more than four beams. It would be interesting to hook that baby up to five different gadgets at the same time. 8D well Dumont registered that one as P1, 2, 7, or 11. and two years later as a P4. if you want to wire it up, there are quite a few pins to connect. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/c9c49889-e776-7e85-1c84-679c8efc9faa%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] P12 Phosphor CRT
On 2020-02-10 11:05 a.m., Nicholas Stock wrote: Other tubes with P12 phosphor are 3JP12’s as far as I can tell. Some of the datasheets for others say they were available as P12, but I rarely find them for sale anywhere the description from JEDEC says P12 was intended for radar. see attched) some REGISTERED at P12 include 5CP12,5AJP12,7LP12,16AFP12, 7AGP12, 3ACP12A, 19Wp12, 3BMP12, 17QCP12, 12AWP12, 5EKP12, 19DXP12. the larger sizes are consistent with Radar use. Sylvania or Dumont in Particular advertised that they would build ANY CRT with any available phosphor given a suitable sized order, so presumably any scope tube could have existed as a P12 - (or P7) version. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/08141654-3971-6d7d-da13-abb4ce3adac1%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: FS Re: [neonixie-l] P12 Phosphor CRT
On 2020-02-11 1:07 p.m., Mac Doktor wrote: On Feb 11, 2020, at 3:39 AM, 'Jan Wuesten' via neonixie-l mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com>> wrote: going to Jan's site in his signature the alternative address does connect securely https://www.die-wuestens.de/eindex.htm Hi there, I sell the 3JP12 NOS, see https://www.askjanfirst.com/r5.htm server must have a problem. Error code: SSL_ERROR_INTERNAL_ERROR_ALERT I can't connect to the server securely. Using an insecure link does: http://www.askjanfirst.com/r5.htm Terry Bowman, KA4HJH "The Mac Doctor” "Never install version point-zero of anything" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/17555BB9-1E03-4907-92B0-07F62626A5D1%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/17555BB9-1E03-4907-92B0-07F62626A5D1%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- Charles MacDonald VA3CPY Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/c78655f6-2f64-854b-fffa-ef7751562ea7%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] vintage calculators
On 2020-01-02 3:06 p.m., alb.001 alb.001 wrote: My first calc. was a 4-function Rapid-Man from Eaton's Canada. It cost me about $150 back in 1970 and I continued to use it at work in the pharmacy of the old Brampton Peel Memorial Hospital - it was the first electronic calculator in the whole hospital - administration was too cheap to buy us any new high technology. My first Job was selling calculators at Eaton's there were many rapid man lines 800 series, handheld LED units 1200 series Neon 12 digit display, with panaplex or NEC readouts 1208 8 digit LCD desk unit bought from Rockwell 2000 series printing units with epson drum printheads and no display in the back room we joked that they were made by "Rapidly Dated Systems and Equipment" as opposed to Rapid Data Systems I also had the first fax machine in Brampton Ontario it came from a Canada Government surplus sale and when I printed out the transaction record the header was "PMO Private Office Fax " ie from Jean Chretien !! Pharma Phil -- Original Message -- From: Mac Doktor Date: January 2, 2020 at 12:19 PM On Jan 2, 2020, at 12:09 PM, gregebert < gregeb...@hotmail.com <mailto:gregeb...@hotmail.com>> wrote: I still have my $10 APF scientific calculator from 1976 which got me thru high school, college, and did my taxes on it for a few years thereafter. The VFD display is still working nicely. Not programmable. Our first calculator had a VFD and did square roots for some odd reason. No idea where it is now. At this point I'm using an HP 35s. WAY more functions than I need but at least I've finally reached the point where RPN just seems natural. It's also quicker than the algebraic method which helps my brain a bit. I used FORTH for a while and found the stack-based approach very intuitive. I daresay I was actually pretty good at keeping it all straight in my mind but that was many years ago on an Apple ][+. Terry Bowman, KA4HJH "The Mac Doctor” "Never install version point-zero of anything" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/17EE1060-7539-4909-AD7E-D9FE5B9B8BB5%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/17EE1060-7539-4909-AD7E-D9FE5B9B8BB5%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2119634149.14168732.1577995597745.JavaMail.open-xchange%40mtlgui05 <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/2119634149.14168732.1577995597745.JavaMail.open-xchange%40mtlgui05?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/cbfee62c-3877-a818-af89-933232e66d17%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Argon Piranha
On 2019-12-17 10:57 p.m., Mahdi Al Husseini wrote: If only there were argon indicator lamps, I could light up the sculptured eyes... they were made at one time "AR" series lamps. EXAMPLE ONLY: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ARGON-AR-1-UV-UltraViolet-Discharge-Vintage-Neon-GLOW-Light-Lamp-Bulb-Free-Ship-/310322322168 -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/38c1ab8c-6e9b-2b4a-6f4d-fb79f67bf276%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] How dangerous is 150V - 170V DC?
On 2019-02-01 3:19 a.m., Thomas Kummer wrote: Or, is it the fact that 150-170V DC isn’t as dangerous as everyone makes it out to be? I mean either way I know I should be more careful. I guess what I’m getting at is what are the chances of me accidentally doing any significant harm to myself from a Nixie project? it is not the Voltage that gets you but the current. !!! dry hands and series resistance can keep the current down to levels that you can survive... -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e007f090-783b-ea89-a699-2e555f7c7a73%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re-plating tube socket pins, anyone have some experience?
On 2019-10-04 4:33 p.m., Dekatron42 wrote: I'd like to clean some tube socket pins in an ultrasonic bath to get rid of the green corrosion but I don't know how to re-plate them afterwards so they look like new and can be re-used. only outfit I have seen advertising small plating outits is Eastwood, who mostly serves the Antique car market. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/41c9196c-53f0-abaa-b1e7-91c5d9ac818d%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: OT: What are single sided screw clips/fasteners called in English?
On 2019-09-22 10:27 a.m., martin martin wrote: https://www.ebay.com/itm/8-Screw-X-7-16-Wide-X-9-16-Long-Spring-Auto-Body-Clip-U-Nuts-Lot-Of-25-Clips/132505056261?hash=item1ed9eab405:g:PlMAAOSwYSxahGre these are closer to what the OP is looking for I think: https://www.ebay.com/itm/8-32-Flat-Speed-Nuts-Tinnerman-Quantity-28/283429129737?hash=item41fdb14e09:g:5YQAAOSwVNxZ73Ui On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 6:36:41 AM UTC-7, Dekatron42 wrote: I've been looking for single sided screw clips like these, but I don't know the proper English word for them, so I only find the "double-sided" ones that are supposed to go over the edge but I can't used those in all positions where I need them - so what should I look for? /Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/a5d8c224-abba-4c9c-ae38-7a238d753eca%40googlegroups.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/a5d8c224-abba-4c9c-ae38-7a238d753eca%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/ac99b8a4-5978-e4e6-1ca3-fd5dbc0ea338%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: OT : Natsemi clock module data wanted
On 2019-09-15 3:57 p.m., GastonP wrote: In this document (page 36) you will find references to the MA1020,23,25 and 26... https://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/download.php?id=9326ea4c9a6299c64664dd2312bd9801e69cc0&type=O&term=MA1002 I remember getting the 12Volt module and installing it in my then current 1979 Dodge Omni. Few cars of that category had a clock. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/c1b4395f-2ad5-f642-8798-23d25f0e18d2%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] B7971 DUSTOFF IOT Board with IR Reciever
On 2019-08-05 7:46 p.m., Bill Notfaded wrote: I too grew up with RPN and HP calculators in school! At first it made no sense to me but after using for years and becoming a CIS major it makes perfect sense now because postfix works the way the machine does. I guess I was lucky, I had an after high school job selling calculators and when HP started offering the HP-21 in stores, the sent a rep to give the store folks a half day course on how to sell them. And yes, Hp said that dropping them on the counter to show how rugged they were was an aceted Sales technique. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/74970f8c-b4b3-aecd-782d-e6607f8813fd%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] B-16851453 nixies
On 2019-07-25 2:54 p.m., David Forbes wrote: That looks like the original Xerox machine copy counter. It had three rotary switches whose shafts we see, along with bulbs to illuminate the numbers, to the right of the Nixie tubes. Xerox and others often had the makers of parts put ONLY the Xerox part number on a part. I have some 25L6GT power pentode tubes stamped only with an IBM Part number. (IBM used them as solenoid drivers in Key Punch machines) -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/97249909-7e73-420c-931c-28b25f2cde2a%40zeusprune.ca.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Power for six (6) GR10G Nixies: 300VDC @ 40mA - small switching PSU?
On 2019-07-15 4:54 p.m., Dekatron42 wrote: @ gregebert: I'd prefer not using rectified mains, I might use two transformers back to back or one isolation transformer with secondaries like the primary to get some isolation - knowing myself I'd better use some isolation... I sometimes wonder why I am not dead from all the shocks I've got, the worst still show scars. Why not use one of the "Hammond Classics Tube power transformers".you would need to bring in the Mains to the primary, But that can all be in an enclosure. for example the 260 series. http://www.hammondmfg.com/260.htm 400V CT and a couple of 1N4007 and perhaps a filter cap. (if you need pure DC.) Extra 6.3V at 2A winding to run your digital stuff. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/43e165b2-0415-1936-c511-e923e97424b0%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] 110 or 220 at 50 or 400 Hz Russian multimeter translation
On 2019-07-11 8:09 p.m., alb.001 alb.001 wrote: The switch next to voltage is 50 or 400 Hz. Not really compatible with North American 60 Hz. Only place I see 400 Hz is in aircraft systems, not common usage. Does it use the input frequency for a time base ? there is a lot less iron needed in a transformer for 400Hz. so probably the 400hz side cuts out part of the winding of the transformer to compensate. a 50Hz transformer should be close on 60Hz. I have an ancient TV set that I used for about a year when I was a kid before I noticed it was a 25Hz set. In that case, again the transformer was massive and so the internal voltages were so high that the Picture tube was very worn. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/b0549ed5-5546-3b5d-899f-0882cd0da45b%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
SwissNixie Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What does your shop look like?
On 2019-07-09 2:24 p.m., SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. wrote: this makes it easy to find a tube and also know exactly how many you have (left). Also it allows me to quickly check if i already own a tube when i see an action. One of my other hobbies is the interest in radiation and nuclear related stuff and hobby gamma spectroscopy, for this i also have a table where all the items are. so you can tell us how many Nixie makers used a radioactive additive to ensure that gas fired right away :) -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/097f6ac1-6a7c-25e3-2093-667f4a3c8642%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Really??
On 2019-07-09 6:45 p.m., Mac Doktor wrote: On Jul 9, 2019, at 5:03 PM, Mark Moulding <mailto:urros...@att.net>> wrote: This just came across my in-box. I was looking at that "Candy-Ferrari" clock (for $10k). I think eBay's database must have screwed up somehow... It says "local pickup" with no shipping option and it's in Romania: https://www.ebay.com/itm/IV11-VFD-tubes-Nixie-era-alarm-clock-thermometer-assembled-kit-NEW-VERSION/323853594090 shows as Shipping: $25.80 Standard International Shipping | See details (that would be to Canada in my case.) -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/226823f7-3256-36f8-34bc-bf198986ae0b%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Mullard ZM1200 Pandicon available
On 2019-06-28 5:04 a.m., Roddy Scott wrote: EDIT - Philips bought out Mullard in 1928 but still marketed tubes under the Mullard label - I should use Wikipedia more often! Valvo was a German company Philips was a company of many names. they had an internal system of etch marks with a code for date, design and factory that made a given tube. (not sure if the "specials" would get the full code.) in each country they sold tubes they used the "local" name, like Mullard generaly a firm they had bought over the years. So Amperex, Philips, Miniwatt, Rogers, Pope, Mullard, and several others were all valid, and often were applied by the local distributor. https://frank.pocnet.net/other/Philips/PhilipsCodeListAB.pdf is proably a good start -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/50c1f415-e318-387a-6e58-475c0bea0e49%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Odd but cool display
On 2019-06-10 7:53 p.m., Terry S wrote: The data sheet specifically says LED. HP at one time made their own LED devices for Calculator and other displays. Calculators like the HP-35 have HP made LED displays. eventually - the available devices got better and cheaper and they exited. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e3822bdb-80de-e04d-3cf8-020e047f0fcd%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Burroughs logo/letterhead scan needed
On 2019-06-03 9:44 p.m., Hannah Mishin wrote: I took the scan and vectorized the graphic. The less than good looking vectors are direct translation The image to the right is a cleaned up version. I can split them if you don't have the software. just let me know. Immpresive I looked through several more of the 20 some odd registrations that they did for various electron tubes, and noticed that several also had this logo, BUT the JEDEC files just show it this small. Doubt if you could pick up the type, although I guess that you would not want that anyway. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/3a3f1200-d3b4-52a1-4d01-cd9110bc7ee8%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] UK product shipping to the USA? MCTA030/12
On 2019-06-03 6:38 p.m., Mac Doktor wrote: Wouldn't they have to pay a significant VAT on the purchase before sending it to you? if shipping outside the EU, the rules in most countries rebate the VAT. BUT the distributor is question is part of a wider international chain and so they are probably only set up to ship from the UK to the UK. the delay quoted may well come from an estimate of teh time to ship from the UK to their HQ, and reship to the customer. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e1d0ebf9-36f7-c23d-3618-cbfe9a133fb1%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Burroughs logo/letterhead scan needed
On 2019-06-03 4:44 p.m., Mac Doktor wrote: I'm still toying around with a logo for the theoretical NixieBase project. I need a really good hi-res scan of the words "Burroughs Corporation" as used in their documentation and packaging so I can trace the capital letter "B". I'd like to have the "B in a circle" logo as well. these are from the last Bouroughs Nixie registration -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/5684cb62-df1f-7520-35d7-f57c9f4a7072%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-28's in real life...
On 2019-05-31 10:36 p.m., Terry Kennedy wrote: Gandalf Quad PACX IV which was a 1024-terminal to 512-host-port concentrator. Each port had 4 red LEDs, so a total of 6144 LEDs. It also had a "lamp test" button. I bet you can see where this is going... Those LEDs gave off enough IR that you could feel it from quite some distance away I was always sad about Gandalf, they kinda Zigged when everyone else zagged. Way Back when I recall showing one of their engineers one of the First HAYES modems -and I asked why Gandalf was not in the market. He answered that PCs were Kids stuff, and that they only made products for data centers. I also recall lightly hacking a PACX one time. The computer I wanted at a certain local site had limited dial up lines, but the site where it was had other lines for commercial users - dialing up that line the PACX asked me to provide the "CLASS" I wanted and was happy to connect me. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/58ffd69a-d80b-12b4-8692-9b4ba6cce5fc%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Nixies spotted
On 2019-05-26 8:35 p.m., Steven Donaldson wrote: https://www.americaspace.com/2019/05/26/we-didnt-know-the-questions-remembering-apollo-10-50-years-on-part-2/ Plus may be of interest in general... numeric display in the first photo look more like incandescent projection displays. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/856fd90e-eee4-a9a1-cdb5-6ac973d51e0e%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Pricing Insanity
On 2019-05-12 4:40 p.m., Robert L wrote: At least this seller adds exclusive packaging! which is shipped without an over-wrap will almost certainly NOT prevent breakage. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/08532d64-ac70-4c8e-27cc-159c61045c58%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Hewlett Packard Power Cord
On 2019-05-09 5:51 p.m., Bill Notfaded wrote: There has been talk over the years of remanufacturing them again but it's never happened... yet! Wonder if they would no longer meet the Electrical standards - I have some projectors which have a connector which has 2 prong blades like a power cord, recessed in a round opening. The Old cords that came with them look just like an extension cord and Just clear the opening. modern cords have to be quite a bit larger so that one cannot bypass the ground pin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/d40b1e22-fe08-74e4-a9e0-d2ca8a14e18b%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Tube/bulbs for colon separators?
On 2019-04-27 1:07 p.m., David Eustace wrote: IV15 vfd there was a similar Philips tube the 6977. which could be masked to make a colon ; -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/e003f7d5-a48d-94ee-c60f-6f91d76fa1df%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] OT: audio levels
On 2019-03-28 10:09 p.m., johnk wrote: An aside: now that we are talking audio, I would love to get an argument going about Watts RMS ! I say this: the watts specified for an amplifier output are intended to be average power and not rms power. Any takers? I do recall that the merchants is North America got into a bit of a "Horsepower Race" with Power ratings on consumer audio equipment. rather than accept a low number the marketing engineers, started doing things like testing with Pulse inputs to use the electrical capacity of the Filter caps. even further some only tested One channel, (so the power supply was idling on the other.) or connecting a big lab supply as Music is different than sine waves. You started seeing Peak Music Power ratings. the FTC in the States started cracking down and said that any power claims had to be based on teh RMS output (.707 of the peak) using a sine wave with Specified distortion. AND that the unit had to be conditioned at almost maximum power (75% if I recall, or Perhaps 90%)for several minutes before taking the measurement. SOME units sudenly could not show ANY power as the pre-conditioning was enough to cause them to shut down or Melt down. I recall seeing a sears catalogue (here in Canada) which showed a 100W stereo, with a small text box titled Truth in Audio stating the the unit was good for 2W under the US FTC method. So we can blame the US for inventing "RMS Power" - although they were really trying to do the right thing. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/550f8703-35f2-4cdf-efb3-8773b3b358f9%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] OT: Reasonable quality step-up converter?
On 2018-11-04 3:17 p.m., jb-electronics wrote: Hi again, Thank you for all your advice. I I am located in Alberta, far away from Ontario, so I had to find some other solution. I should mention that I live on campus (doing my Ph.D.) and so I do not have any access to the breaker panel or any 240V outlets in the building. I ended up getting the Krieger 450W step-up converter for around CAD 85 (including shipping), So I hooked it up to the step-up converter and I get a very strange behavior: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC47kkjh1sc how clean is the output of your inverter? some just output square waves, which might be confusing the processor in your soldering station. it almost looks like it is getting a "reset" and rebooting. many folks have the same problem with inverters that run 110V stuff of their 12V system in a Motor Home or car. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/f48a6bed-160f-e5ec-00fb-442fc03cfacd%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] OT: Reasonable quality step-up converter?
On 2018-10-24 2:20 p.m., jb-electronics wrote: Hi folks, This is a bit off-topic, but I hope somebody can help. As some of you know I live in Canada, but I am originally from Germany. Most of my tools can be switched between 110V/220V input, so that's fine, except for my soldering station. It is a Weller 40W digital station that I have had for years and I do not want to buy a new one. The problem: it only has a 220V input. In order I would look to see if the unit has atrasnformer with two primary windings connected in series... if so connect them in parrall. That is a common way that North American designers tackled the European market second would be to see if a standard transformer could be swapped in. you would have to determine what the output voltage would be, and then look in the Hammond Catalog to find a good cadidate. http://www.hammondmfg.com/5cpwr.htm third would be the hammond autotrasnformer http://www.hammondmfg.com/pdf/5C_298.pdf -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/bb57dc8b-e94e-a2e1-c194-07b01c3dda66%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] 12 digit Japanese panaplex-like tube 1972
On 2018-10-16 10:40 p.m., J Forbes wrote: I was cleaning up some stuff in my shop and came across a Unitrex 1200 it has a 12 digit neon 7 segment display. There must be something fun I can do with thisany ideas? Add - Substract - Multiply and divide... one of the units the place I worked at out of high school had in their line. the unitrex units were well made, one of the few brands that reliably worked out of the box. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/a2933e99-3f1d-6e4d-eae5-1f52dc443eb3%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Time for my annual (?) question...mostly for David F....
On 18-06-15 12:01 PM, 'Grahame' via neonixie-l wrote: I've read that for green phosphors, P31 is supposed to be "tougher" than P1. But I've not seen data that compares phosphor life between other types. Looked up the Original Registration by Mullard for P31, P32 and P33. Document gives persistence and Spectrum curves but no claims for lifetime. Zinc Sulphide with a copper activator. Registered in 1960 under release 2746 along with type CRT 9RP33, which corresponds to Mullard type AL22-10. (P33 is Orange BTW) (Having the JEDIC data is So handy, everyone should immediately send 50 bucks US to the Tube Collectors Association to get a copy) -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4ca93761-39a8-a0ab-395e-c6747c560f5a%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Ever seen this?
On 18-05-10 03:11 PM, SWISSNIXIE - Jonathan F. wrote: Found this by accident https://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-vintage-NOS-NU-IDPI-144-Made-in-USA-radio-antique-apparatus-vacuum-tube/263659229862 Look at the white top, kind a looks like a neon bulb coating (flourecent), but why would a neon buldb have so many pins? Could that be a small crt tube like the NIMO ones? Very small CRT - will try to attach descripion -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/0afd9ba7-cf42-b906-8afc-f6fb72093cec%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: New to group, building with B7971s
On 17-11-25 06:43 PM, Tim G wrote: I tried to include a couple photos, but every time I insert a photo in a post, posting fails with "An error occurred while communicating with the server. Reload"Are photos not allowed? how big are your photos? some internet providers will block any e-mail over a given size. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/95699fbc-7b40-060b-2eb3-fb2b7751b9a2%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Why is there no "prefix" special symbol Nixie tube in the ZM102X / Z56X series?
On 17-10-04 04:37 PM, Tomasz Kowalczyk wrote: I think there are no known (to the internet) tubes in that series other than standard -,+,~ tubes. I don't know why no one decided to throw extra symbols in the existing tubes or nobody made an extra tube - some makers did offer to make "special symbol" tubes on a private order basis, but that would have meant the customer (equipment maker) would be in charge of supporting replacements for their customers. Much easier to stick some Ne-2 Lamps behind a bezel with captions. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/b1877eef-a763-f5db-0109-63d7c5e2c7a9%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Spotted on Ebay: B6091/NL8423 nixies (larger 20mm/0.8 inch). Manufactured 1985
On 17-05-05 12:25 AM, gregebert wrote: I was surprised to see the 8522 date-code; the only other tubes I've encountered that were manufactured more recently are from the USSR. A couple of years back Tim Lang managed to get a closeout of some Nixies from Richardson/National and they were totally unmarked. I belive Richarson bought up Very large stocks of any tubes thay would get their hands on in "warehouse" condition mostly, and Box and Brand them "National Electronics" when they get an order. The date code would be applied along with the branding. They probably will also box and Brand to the customers brand on request. (I have lots of receiving tubes made by GE in Kentucky which are branded RCA, Amererex and other brands, where the boxes have a KR part number, KR standing for Ken-Rad the original owners of that factory (EIA CODE 188-5)) -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/466e7f44-f19c-68d2-4b86-1ad347e270d6%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Raspberry PI controlled Nixie display
On 17-04-15 02:55 AM, Nick wrote: You could always use a genuine real-time o/s like ChibiOS/RT .. At one time their was a group working on a real time linux kernel... https://www.linux.com/blog/intro-real-time-linux-embedded-developers https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Realtime_kernel would that be close enough? -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/55c0085a-9f24-9729-24bd-94909e3c9d74%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Radioactive Nixies - Study
On 17-03-12 04:56 PM, gregebert wrote: 1 tube may produce 0.4uSv/Hr, but a clock with many more tubes will produce more radiation. I have a total of 47 nixie tubes operating in my home, plus another 6 at work. However, most of my tubes are at least 50 years old, so I'm not too concerned. But how many Bananas and Brazil nuts do you keep around. those are the real home based radiation sources... -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/a007cda0-25ed-7e05-6ce2-9693e69a21d6%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: How ICs are made - the inside track...
On 17-01-24 03:14 AM, Roddy Scott wrote: Processor chips may have gotten a little bit bigger but not by much but could you imagine the size of a computer based on the ENIAC <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC> technology and the power requirements? The original consumed 150KW and weighed about 30 tons, a modern day version would need its own power station and would take up a football stadium Ah but you are forgetting as Admiral Hopper liked to point out, the size of a nanosecond. A football stadium sized computer could not get out of it's own way. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/4edd2832-7130-f917-1bf8-26e6311f3b94%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] tube coil OT
On 16-11-28 07:06 PM, 'westdave' via neonixie-l wrote: coils in tubes ? found two at the swap meet what? why? ? could one make a LC neon flasher? could it be a relay? or perhaps a time delay? or maybe a RF coil sealed in a vacuum or some inert gas to avoid humidity problems. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/aa16e503-70d2-dfb5-a619-0efbefaff896%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] RTC chips that behave nicely with crystals
On 16-11-02 01:34 PM, John Rehwinkel wrote: I got a few laughs from a $1 Chinese RTC board; wickedly inaccurate. I have a small cheep Chinese clock on the Kitchen table, iit drifts about a minute a week slow. I keep it becasue it has the date which is hard to see on my MAIN kitchen clock, mounted on the wall, which takes orders from a US government transmitter in Colorado. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/d2113c04-ea51-ab72-29c9-506d5bd4b7fd%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: NixiChron upgrade, new firmware, NixiChron style case...
On 16-10-06 04:01 PM, David Forbes wrote: Come to think of it, Jeff also lived in Arizona. Perhaps that's why he didn't understand the subtleties of DST programming, since he never used it! DST is also an Ongoing problem, I keep getting new versions of "tzdata" on my computer a couple of times a year More info at https://www.iana.org/time-zones -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/194b4220-730c-52e2-9547-be65d3c83aa7%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] How hot should a mosfet get?
On 16-09-28 02:00 PM, gregebert wrote: My bad...just checked the IRFD220 datasheet and it's not easily heat-sinked. I blindly assumed it was a TO-220 or similar case. looks like they expected the designer to use the side with the double pins to be heat sinked by the PC board. Might be able to attach a sink on the top of the chip... But yes a TO-220 is much easier to play with. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/67cf885a-e07d-e846-3401-5dd45419d91e%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] I agree with the Rant - eBay Sucks ! Shipping Calculator
On 16-09-19 07:03 PM, alb.001 alb.001 wrote: I sold some cables recently and it clearly stated shipping to USA lower 48 states was $20. The buyer showed me the invoice he got from eBay and it indicated "shipping free". E-bay has wonted to become more like a store and less like an auction site. The one that gets me is the "Global Shipping program." a US seller lists an item and if the software recognizes it, it shows up on e-bay canada with global shipping. this starts at about 20 dollars. if I win, ebay tells the seller to ship to Pitney Bowes in Kentucky. (I get to pay them for US shipping for that) There they cut open the package to verify that it looks like the listing (hopefully not damaging the item too badly) and forward it on, with the opening taped up and a big E-bay Sticker added... Small Items under 20 dollars are just put back in the USPS mail, (but of course I have already paid twice once to get it to KY and again to mail it to Canada, so I have paid more than if the seller just shipped it direct) If over 20 bucks they ship it to Toronto where they mail it, but I get to pay the retail sales tax at 13% just like I got it from the local store. rest assured that Pitney gets a good cut. there are some items where they can save me money, but on small items it just adds expense. and latly I get Brethless e-mails with important news when the item arrived in KY, is shipped and when the post office delivers it. All Don’t have the name of the item in the subject so I have to read them though to find out what they are about and can't search them alter if I am missing an item. I hate their shipping calculator. The system should just wait for an invoice from seller who can properly figure postage to wherever the buyer is. As I buyer, I have had situations in the old days where I thought I had a good idea of what it would cost to ship somthing and had sticker shock when the seller used a gigantic oversize carton, or sent with the most expensive service because it was crossing big water (lake Ontario).. (also got stung a few times where they declared a high value "in case it got damaged in shipping so I could make a good claim" (unless perfectly packed as long as the box and or its contents get to you their is no claim, and did I metion the 13% sales tax --- On the declared value) I would love to have a choice in shipping. The other thing is that the seller now has to used "tracked" shipping to avoid a claim of Non delivery. so many things that should be Small packet are instead sent Priority at 4 times the cost. I don't know how many items I have "watched" for a week, and decided not to bid as the bid plus shipping would be more than the item was worth (to me) even though the bid itself was reasonable. Also postage in Canada and USA is wa too expensive compared to overseas- shipping from China costs seller practically nothing (price + shipping = $0.99 - how do they do that? simple, the buyers country subsidized the shipping. You have to wonder why the China Post can get away with such low prices, I just wish USPS and Canada post had simalar ones, then I could bid on more ebay items. Mind you the China Post service really does seem like a slowboat from China as 30 days is typical. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/d2721289-cfc8-1ec8-cacd-b5f3ddf18702%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] PSU question...
On 16-09-18 03:25 PM, David Forbes wrote: Nick, The mark that indicates that the input and output are fully isolated from each other is a square within another square, called "double insulated". If you don't see that mark, and you see a UL or ETL mark, then it's reasonable to assume that the barrel is grounded, because otherwise the unit wouldn't pass UL or ETL testing. Assuming of course that the input has a ground pin. if it is a two prong plug it would be reckless to pass along one side of the line. Although I suppose that they might trust that the Neutral prong should be safe to pass on. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/9d162eae-0403-bbb5-547d-b4904f4e4d49%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Very useful Burroughs application note/brochure #616
On 16-08-05 08:51 AM, Nick wrote: The enclosed Burroughs brochure #616 thanks, a lot of information is one place. In skimming I noticed a reference to the "characteristic Blue" of the long life tubes. I guess that confirms the blue spots and the inclusion of mercury that keeps coming up on the list. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/ad57c967-4d70-329e-ae41-d18ef29d70f6%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 Typical Failure Mechanism
On 16-07-12 02:13 PM, Dalibor Farný wrote: Hello, if the tubes is faulty, there must be a cause. If any of the pins is leaky, it is practically not repairable. To refill the tube, you need to open it and weld a glass tube onto remaining of previous evacuation pipe. could someone very skilled take the "stack" out of a dead tube and use it as the "Guts" of a new tubes, or would the the cathodes end up poisoned? -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/578541FA.4080606%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] 2AP1 CRT help
On 16-05-21 09:53 PM, Instrument Resources of America wrote: 'Medlabs' was a typo on my part just now in that last message. I had been sending to 'madlabs' all along with no luck, always rejected. Sent to jpeak...@madlabs.infoagain just now. Rejected again on the second go round. Here is a partial copy of the message that I'm getting, Ira jpeak...@madlabs.info (after RCPT TO): 554 BLK_SYS_15 IP Address (69.168.97.48) of the sender was found in DNSBL MailSpike-BL-W and was therefore refused. Not wanting to stray this far off topic but that is saying that the destination e-mail server thinks that the sending mail server is on a spam blacklist. 69.168.97.48 is the sending IP adddress and it appears to be from an ISP in Buffalo NY called Synacor using a server called smtp.hughes.net perhaps IRA has to get his Internet provider to get the address taken off the blacklist. the blacklist seems to be run by http://mailspike.org/ there tools show : Matches found for 69.168.97.48 (smtp.hughes.net) Worst possible reputation Worst possible reputation I did submit a delist request to try to open that blacklist up FWIW. so try again. But if one of the ISP's other customers is sending spam it will close up quickly. On 5/21/2016 4:22 PM, David Forbes wrote: madlabs, not medlabs. On 5/21/16 2:54 PM, Instrument Resources of America wrote: I've tried twice now Johnathan to respond to you on this, and both times the message comes back to me as being undeliverable. To; J PEAKALL@ MEDLABS.INFOIra. On 5/21/2016 12:00 PM, Jonathan Peakall wrote: Hi All, A little OT, but there are some CRT folks on this list. I am working on a Hallicrafters SP-44 Skyrider Panadapter. I have done a recap/re-resistor job on it. The CRT display isn't quite right, the baseline is uneven in width, about right on the left but too wide on the right. If anyone has some insight as to what could be causing it, I would be very appreciative. PLEASE REPLY OFF LIST : jpeakall AT madlabs DOT info Many thanks folks! Jonathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com <mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/016b9265-0a1c-5396-3f83-5380bf85f2a9%40HUGHES.NET <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/016b9265-0a1c-5396-3f83-5380bf85f2a9%40HUGHES.NET?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/57411A5C.9030501%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: My NixiChron is sick, what do I do?
Of course, and they often also include the decoupling, etc. But are you saying that we're missing one page with just that one chip's vcc/gnd? :) (when the other ones are all included on the schematic?). Doesn't seem likely, does it? perhaps the circuit was reworked and the CPU changed, resulting in a new diagram for that part of the circuit? I have certainly viewed LOT of diagrams where the power buses were implied or the subject of a foot note. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/573A8104.30100%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Minutiae - 5870 tube lead diameters
On 16-05-04 02:09 PM, David Forbes wrote: I have handled a lot of 5870 tubes, making Nixie watches. About 4,000 so far. I have noticed that there are different diameters of lead wires on these tubes. (The lead wires are cast into the glass header, and the cathodes are spot-welded to them.) The thickest leads are 0.40 mm diameter, while the typical ones are 0.35 or 0.38mm. I just encountered one today with 0.29mm leads. quick look for a data sheet shows they are specified as 0.014 to 0.017 Typical diameter. that gives .35 to .43 in mm if I did the conversion right. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/572A95A6.5060506%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Crowdfunding for vacuum tubes/nixie/neon/scientific glassblowing workshop
On 16-04-08 04:05 AM, Nick wrote: Hi Lukas, I like the idea, but I've tried hot glass work, and it's really tricky to do well As you probably know, at least one other member is doing exactly this type of work, Dalibor Farny - http://www.daliborfarny.com/ - and its taken him years of hard graft to get to the stage he's at. Apparently Mr. Farney is one of the folks pledging on this one. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/57085F09.8070104%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Why were dekatrons still manufactured as recently as 1992 ?
On 16-03-18 03:12 PM, 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l wrote: In "the West", most tube production, other than CRTs and microwave magnatrons, ended ~1975. Some receiving type tube production continued in the US for a while after that, but for Military use. Other microwave tubes are/were also produced, even today satellites seem to use TWT transmitters. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/56EC8024.8%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Strange Nixie Sources?
On 16-03-02 04:31 AM, Jonathan F. wrote: I don't had much luck about getting offers, but im keep looking, maybe i will be in luck one da :) I got a offer for a B-8091 Nixie tube from one of this comapnies. But 400$ for that tube, nope..sorry the sites running the NATO = NSN number stuff are looking to sell parts to someone who really needs that specific part (including perhaps the inspection stamp) to maintain an expensive piece of kit - like an air-plane. It they can find a part for X hundred bucks and it will pass inspection them the unit can live another day. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/56D769FE.8020904%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Small neon bulbs 50 for $5
On 16-03-02 12:53 PM, John Rehwinkel wrote: That's Yan, I'm so tempted to buy one of his Divergence Meters, but I built one of my own and do I really need two? but don't you need a "divergence reference" to keep up with the calibration requirments? ;) -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/56D768F7.4020206%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Strange Nixie Sources?
On 16-03-01 08:51 PM, A.J. Franzman wrote: Interesting that in the page you linked, the item name is "electron tube", but it's given in the site's "connectors" category. Perhaps it is an offshoot of the Military parts scan business. there is occasionaly some military equipment that needs a part repleced, but it is so old that the part no longer exists, but a search on the NATO or FSN number turns up suppliers who claim to have them. the NATO numbers look like 5970-01-- where the first group indicates what tipe of supply it is, and the second group indicates which NATO member assigned the number, and the rst of the number is a particular product. (note the numbers are assigned for any commodity that might be bought repeatedly, one place I worked at we had a specific NATO number we had to use to get a certain size cardboard box to use for dead file storage. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/56D6492C.6040801%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Newbie with a question on how to drive VFDs
On 16-02-20 04:03 PM, ZY wrote: Hello. I'm pretty new to nixies/vfds, and I have some questions on how to drive a VFD tube before I pick some up on ebay: ? I've seen some circuits where they just bias the filament voltage a bit higher with a diode or a resistor before the ground. Does that work? Is this what the max6931 filament bias does? As in I supply -7v to the IC, 4) Why do some circuits bias the filament at a negative voltage like -30v? 8) If I drive one segment more than the other segments, would it "wear out"? 9) What contributes more to tube life? Less filament current, or lower grid/anode voltages? Is it both? 10) What is the mechanism in which VFDs fail? VFD displays are little triode Vacuum tubes. with some phosphor on the anodes which glow when their is electron current. (*) The anode needs to be typicaly 30V more positive than the Filament/Cathode. SO you can make the cathode negative and keep the anode near ground or make the anode positive and have the cathode near ground. Or even a mixture! as long as the DIFFERENCE is whatever the display is expecting - Ie 30V. If their is a grid, it is generaly there to allow things like multiplexing. The data sheet should show the range of voltage it is expecting. It can be used to turn on or turn off the entire digit, or even one way of dimming the display. the filament is the source of electrons so you generally want it to have an AC voltage at the rated voltage and current. If it has DC and goes across a multi-digit display the DC levels between the filament and the grid will vary and so with the light output. The Phosphor will gradually loose output over use, and that loss tends to be more pronounced during the first part of the Tubes life. Not using a segment for a long time then lighting it up MAY result in the "fresh Segment" being brighter. The other burn-out mechanism is the filament burning out like a light bulb, or losing emission over time. In some cases leving the filament lit up but the tubes biased off may lead to cathode contamination, and reduced emission. (*) some enterprising folks have made Phonograph pre-amplifiers using a VFD. it is not a great triode, but the glow does change with the current. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/56C8E236.2010203%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Re: High current 1.5A x150V power supply design for 100 IN9s
I think it was on this list that someone once mentioned finding a used ELECTROPHORESIS power supply for less than a general purpose one. these tend to be in the right range but are surplus to chem or Bio labs rather then engineering departments. May not have the current you want and they tend to have a timer which MOST let you ignore and run continuously. YMMV, And all that jazz. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/56BCF715.5020007%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] Microchip finally buys Atmel
On 16-01-27 11:06 AM, NeonJohn wrote: On 01/27/2016 09:22 AM, Nick wrote: +1 on hating the PIC "architecture". I was always an AVR man, then I discovered the MSP430 series... :) Interesting. I plugged MPS430 into mouser and what came up is a large 100 pin chip that is fairly expensive. Are there smaller versions in the series? I guess I have a lot of reading to do. I'm in a quandary. In upcoming products, I need more power than the AVRs can provide. I feel like I should be on the ARM bandwagon but I have no idea where to start. This TI chip looks interesting but it chaps me to have to pay for dev tools. Yeah, I know the GNU chain is free but sometimes one just has to have a source code debugger. At the Last Ottawa Linux Symposium, Jon Hall mentioned that he is now working for http://www.linaro.org/ They seem to be the folks that work on the tool chains and migration paterns for the Whole ARM line. It is a but unusual as ARM designs the chips but licences the design to several other firms to make them, and the spread is between small chips for low power, and bigger ones that take on low level x86 style tasks. I only remember the highlights of Jon's talk. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/56AACCA5.803%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] OT: Darkened NOS(?) RCA 6AH6 tubes?
On 16-01-16 07:04 AM, 'marta_kson' via neonixie-l wrote: They are RCA 6AH6 that appears on the market from several sources, claiming they are NOS/NIB. Are there any possibilities the blackening on the inside of the glass have been deposited as part of manufacture? On one tube in particular there are clear lines visible in the black material, as it has been rubbed off by the mica wafer when it was inserted. If so, they was clearly dark from the factory. a quite a few tubes had a carbon coating on the inside of the glass to control static and suppress the blue glow from the electron beams. a 12BY7 which is a similar tubes generally has such a coating, so I would not be surprised to see it here. -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/569AE7A4.20306%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [neonixie-l] FS: IV-4, IV-12, IV-17, IV-26
On 15-12-10 06:08 AM, Vadim Selin wrote: Sorry, but my English is poor :( My questions only for Yuriy, his native language not English. If I want to recieve some information from other people, I use English, but I am ashamed for my English level Google translate does work well for the others watching who are curious which is said in another language, BUT in spite of the fact that Yahoo likes all the comments to come to the main list, if anyone wants to talk to just one member in the olden days of the net they would use a direct e-mail.. I see the two individuals listed as From: Vadim Selin and From: Yuriy Ovchinnikov So if you folks want to discuss something the rest of us would not be interested in, why send it to a hundred people. ;) -- Charles MacDonald Stittsville Ontario cm...@zeusprune.ca Just Beyond the Fringe No Microsoft Products were used in sending this e-mail. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/neonixie-l/566A27DF.7020208%40zeusprune.ca. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
