RE: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Michail Wilson]

The 5916 will work perfectly.

And, it’s better than the 595 shift register since the 5916 requires only 1 
resister.

 

It’s what I have used on projects.

 

Michail

 

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Bill Notfaded
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 10:14 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 
14-segment character

 

Yeah I'm probably better off missing that one... Now I gotta make sure PayPal 
pays me back for this jerk that cancelled after I won... I knew it was too good 
to be true hehe.

 

I'm looking forward to making some DR20x0 clocks.  I think the Texas Instrument 
TLC5916 Constant Current LED Sink Driver chip sounds like it might be good for 
stuff like them maybe?

 

Bill

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Bill Notfaded]

Yeah I'm probably better off missing that one... Now I gotta make sure
PayPal pays me back for this jerk that cancelled after I won... I knew it
was too good to be true hehe.

I'm looking forward to making some DR20x0 clocks.  I think the Texas
Instrument TLC5916 Constant Current LED Sink Driver chip sounds like it
might be good for stuff like them maybe?

Bill

On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 10:08 PM Michail Wilson  wrote:

> Jeff,
>
>
>
> Not really.  I am sure people looked at the guys new account and already
> have received 2 negatives.
>
> Even if they were good, the risk is high.
>
>
>
>
>
> Michail
>
>
>
> *From:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Jeff Walton
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 14, 2019 9:23 PM
> *To:* neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½"
> tall 14-segment character
>
>
>
> Latest auction for B7971's went for $125ea.  That seems to a reasonable
> price and auction based on the last five years.
>
>
>
> Paying $250-$300 each really screws up the market for hobbyists. There
> still seems to be a supply of 7971's out there...
>
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>  Original message 
>
> From: Nicholas Stock 
>
> Date: 3/26/19 9:25 AM (GMT-06:00)
>
> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall
> 14-segment character
>
>
>
> Things are going a little crazy??? 4 B7971’s just sold for over $250
> eachthere’s another auction for two tubes with prices over 180 each
> currently..
>
>
> Look at this on eBay
> TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character
> <https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F173842091160>
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RE: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Michail Wilson]

Jeff,

 

Not really.  I am sure people looked at the guys new account and already have 
received 2 negatives.

Even if they were good, the risk is high.

 

 

Michail 

 

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Jeff Walton
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 9:23 PM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 
14-segment character

 

Latest auction for B7971's went for $125ea.  That seems to a reasonable price 
and auction based on the last five years. 

 

Paying $250-$300 each really screws up the market for hobbyists. There still 
seems to be a supply of 7971's out there... 

 

Jeff 

 

 Original message 

From: Nicholas Stock  

Date: 3/26/19 9:25 AM (GMT-06:00) 

To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 

Subject: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment 
character 

 

Things are going a little crazy??? 4 B7971’s just sold for over $250 
eachthere’s another auction for two tubes with prices over 180 each 
currently..


  <https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/5QcAAOSwJjNckG9h/s-l200.jpg> 

Look at this on eBay
TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½ 
<https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F173842091160>
 " tall 14-segment character

 

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Bill Notfaded]

I was going to bid on those too but missed it... Dang it!

On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 9:22 PM Jeff Walton  wrote:

> Latest auction for B7971's went for $125ea.  That seems to a reasonable
> price and auction based on the last five years.
>
> Paying $250-$300 each really screws up the market for hobbyists. There
> still seems to be a supply of 7971's out there...
>
> Jeff
>
>  Original message 
> From: Nicholas Stock 
> Date: 3/26/19 9:25 AM (GMT-06:00)
> To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall
> 14-segment character
>
> Things are going a little crazy??? 4 B7971’s just sold for over $250
> eachthere’s another auction for two tubes with prices over 180 each
> currently..
>
>
> Look at this on eBay
> TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character
> 
>
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>
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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Jeff Walton]

Latest auction for B7971's went for $125ea.  That seems to a reasonable price 
and auction based on the last five years. Paying $250-$300 each really screws 
up the market for hobbyists. There still seems to be a supply of 7971's out 
there... Jeff 
 Original message From: Nicholas Stock  
Date: 3/26/19  9:25 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: 
[neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment 
character Things are going a little crazy??? 4 B7971’s just sold for over $250 
eachthere’s another auction for two tubes with prices over 180 each 
currently..Look at this on eBayTESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" 
tall 14-segment character Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Bill Notfaded]

Two of those sentences were all wrong grammatically... you'll have to bear with 
me when I'm swyping on a phone.

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Bill Notfaded]

Thanks for that video Kevin I've been looking high and low for anything for the 
small Burroughs and those boards is all I've found so far... I'm thinking maybe 
a post in the Yahoo smartsockets group might hit pay dirt.  There's still semi 
recent posts in there.

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Bill Notfaded]

I kinda wanted to buy some of those too because they're new in the box.  The 
boards look legit but they aren't really like the smart sockets we know I don't 
think.  Still they look workable.

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Kevin A.]

Here is the only video I've been able to find of a 5971 being driven, and
judging by the video description it's a hodgepodge of driver ICs and
microcontrollers. Not a proper "smartsocket" or driver board like we are
more familiar with.

https://youtu.be/2u13rIDjta4

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019, 4:55 PM Kevin A.  wrote:

> Having searched extensively, I dont believe any implementation of 5971
> circuits have been published online. Looks like someone has to make one!
>
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2019, 4:07 PM Thomas Kummer 
> wrote:
>
>> I impulsively bought (6) 5971’s I have no idea how to use the smart
>> socket. Does anyone know of a 5971 kit? If not I’ll try to learn to use the
>> smart socket.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 29, 2019, at 13:17, Bill Notfaded  wrote:
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>> These pics looks much better...
>>>
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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Kevin A.]

Having searched extensively, I dont believe any implementation of 5971
circuits have been published online. Looks like someone has to make one!

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019, 4:07 PM Thomas Kummer  wrote:

> I impulsively bought (6) 5971’s I have no idea how to use the smart
> socket. Does anyone know of a 5971 kit? If not I’ll try to learn to use the
> smart socket.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 29, 2019, at 13:17, Bill Notfaded  wrote:
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> These pics looks much better...
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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Thomas Kummer]

I impulsively bought (6) 5971’s I have no idea how to use the smart socket. 
Does anyone know of a 5971 kit? If not I’ll try to learn to use the smart 
socket. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

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>
> These pics looks much better...
>
>  

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Bill Notfaded]

Does anyone have a picture of the assembled boards for the B-5971?  I'd be 
curious to see what this looks like put together.  I'm guessing someone did 
it since they made the smartsockets.


On Thursday, March 28, 2019 at 7:08:12 AM UTC-7, Pramanicin wrote:
>
> Those 5971’s are a bit steep. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone 
>
> > On Mar 28, 2019, at 07:02, Michail Wilson  > wrote: 
> > 
> > Bill, 
> > 
> > I'm glad you got the tubes you wanted; however, I am a little surprised 
> that you didn't take me up on my offer of $1000 plus shipping for six 
> tested tube when you contacted me directly. 
> > 
> > As for the 5971's, thanks for mentioning that they were on ebay.  I've 
> been searching for quite some time and it turns out my search was for 
> 'B-5971' and that doesn't work for '5971 nixie'. 
> > 
> > Michail 
> > 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: neoni...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> neoni...@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of Bill Notfaded 
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 9:39 PM 
> > To: neonixie-l 
> > Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 
> 14-segment character 
> > 
> > Sorry to ruin it for you guys... It's not a scam of some kind.  I bought 
> the tubes on Monday night.  I've been fighting with the other bidder over a 
> bunch of auctions.  It was my birthday Monday night and I wasn't going to 
> let him win that one even though it cost me as much as my new Rigol mso5000 
> oscilliscope.  I way over paid but I just might do it to him again on the 
> other two.  I also found another secret source for cheaper b7971's but 
> they're getting scarcer and scarcer and it's hit or miss too.  I bought 2 
> more last night for 150$.  Month ago I got 6 for 400$ total and 2 for 250$ 
> total from two different people.  I'm working on a new smartsocket array 
> and just bought a new mod-six from Michael... Hopefully shipping this week! 
>  I also have a v8-08 mod-six that's older.  I think 7971's are going to 
> become the next 568's.  I love the Nixie glow but being able to make 
> something besides numbers is priceless to me.  Maybe it's the computer 
> scientist in me... Idk?  I love that b8971 clock too.  There are some 
> b5971s on eBay now... Anyone built a mini one? I've seen board Gerbers on 
> the net for them. 
> > 
> > Best Regards, 
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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Bill Notfaded]

I should have taken you up on them.  We may still be able to wheel and
deal.  I know you're pretty active in the forum and trust worthy.  I got
the tubes from Oregon today.  They're good.  I got one of the Chinese one
7971 tube clocks today... Interested to try it out.  It's got a few options.

Regards,

Bill
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 7:02 AM Michail Wilson  wrote:

> Bill,
>
> I'm glad you got the tubes you wanted; however, I am a little surprised
> that you didn't take me up on my offer of $1000 plus shipping for six
> tested tube when you contacted me directly.
>
> As for the 5971's, thanks for mentioning that they were on ebay.  I've
> been searching for quite some time and it turns out my search was for
> 'B-5971' and that doesn't work for '5971 nixie'.
>
> Michail
>
> -Original Message-
> From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Bill Notfaded
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 9:39 PM
> To: neonixie-l
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall
> 14-segment character
>
> Sorry to ruin it for you guys... It's not a scam of some kind.  I bought
> the tubes on Monday night.  I've been fighting with the other bidder over a
> bunch of auctions.  It was my birthday Monday night and I wasn't going to
> let him win that one even though it cost me as much as my new Rigol mso5000
> oscilliscope.  I way over paid but I just might do it to him again on the
> other two.  I also found another secret source for cheaper b7971's but
> they're getting scarcer and scarcer and it's hit or miss too.  I bought 2
> more last night for 150$.  Month ago I got 6 for 400$ total and 2 for 250$
> total from two different people.  I'm working on a new smartsocket array
> and just bought a new mod-six from Michael... Hopefully shipping this
> week!  I also have a v8-08 mod-six that's older.  I think 7971's are going
> to become the next 568's.  I love the Nixie glow but being able to make
> something besides numbers is priceless to me.  Maybe it's the computer
> scientist in me... Idk?  I love that b8971 clock too.  There are some
> b5971s on eBay now... Anyone built a mini one? I've seen board Gerbers on
> the net for them.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Bill
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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Jeff Walton]

The 5971's do seem pricey, but as we have learned, some buyers may be willing 
to greatly overpay.  
 Original message From: Nicholas Stock  
Date: 3/28/19  9:08 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject: 
Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment 
character Those 5971’s are a bit steep.Sent from my iPhone> On Mar 28, 
2019, at 07:02, Michail Wilson  wrote:> > Bill,> > I'm glad 
you got the tubes you wanted; however, I am a little surprised that you didn't 
take me up on my offer of $1000 plus shipping for six tested tube when you 
contacted me directly.> > As for the 5971's, thanks for mentioning that they 
were on ebay.  I've been searching for quite some time and it turns out my 
search was for 'B-5971' and that doesn't work for '5971 nixie'.> > Michail > > 
-Original Message-> From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Notfaded> Sent: 
Wednesday, March 27, 2019 9:39 PM> To: neonixie-l> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] 
TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character> > Sorry to 
ruin it for you guys... It's not a scam of some kind.  I bought the tubes on 
Monday night.  I've been fighting with the other bidder over a bunch of 
auctions.  It was my birthday Monday night and I wasn't going to let him win 
that one even though it cost me as much as my new Rigol mso5000 oscilliscope.  
I way over paid but I just might do it to him again on the other two.  I also 
found another secret source for cheaper b7971's but they're getting scarcer and 
scarcer and it's hit or miss too.  I bought 2 more last night for 150$.  Month 
ago I got 6 for 400$ total and 2 for 250$ total from two different people.  I'm 
working on a new smartsocket array and just bought a new mod-six from 
Michael... Hopefully shipping this week!  I also have a v8-08 mod-six that's 
older.  I think 7971's are going to become the next 568's.  I love the Nixie 
glow but being able to make something besides numbers is priceless to me.  
Maybe it's the computer scientist in me... Idk?  I love that b8971 clock too.  
There are some b5971s on eBay now... Anyone built a mini one? I've seen board 
Gerbers on the net for them.> > Best Regards,> > Bill> > -- > You received this 
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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Nicholas Stock]

His website may not be up to date.i tried to purchase some of those a long 
time ago

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2019, at 07:35, 'John Rehwinkel' via neonixie-l 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jan Wüsten has B5971 for €16 apiece.
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Nicholas Stock  wrote:
>> 
>> Those 5971’s are a bit steep.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 28, 2019, at 07:02, Michail Wilson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bill,
>>> 
>>> I'm glad you got the tubes you wanted; however, I am a little surprised 
>>> that you didn't take me up on my offer of $1000 plus shipping for six 
>>> tested tube when you contacted me directly.
>>> 
>>> As for the 5971's, thanks for mentioning that they were on ebay.  I've been 
>>> searching for quite some time and it turns out my search was for 'B-5971' 
>>> and that doesn't work for '5971 nixie'.
>>> 
>>> Michail 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-----
>>> From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Bill Notfaded
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 9:39 PM
>>> To: neonixie-l
>>> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 
>>> 14-segment character
>>> 
>>> Sorry to ruin it for you guys... It's not a scam of some kind.  I bought 
>>> the tubes on Monday night.  I've been fighting with the other bidder over a 
>>> bunch of auctions.  It was my birthday Monday night and I wasn't going to 
>>> let him win that one even though it cost me as much as my new Rigol mso5000 
>>> oscilliscope.  I way over paid but I just might do it to him again on the 
>>> other two.  I also found another secret source for cheaper b7971's but 
>>> they're getting scarcer and scarcer and it's hit or miss too.  I bought 2 
>>> more last night for 150$.  Month ago I got 6 for 400$ total and 2 for 250$ 
>>> total from two different people.  I'm working on a new smartsocket array 
>>> and just bought a new mod-six from Michael... Hopefully shipping this week! 
>>>  I also have a v8-08 mod-six that's older.  I think 7971's are going to 
>>> become the next 568's.  I love the Nixie glow but being able to make 
>>> something besides numbers is priceless to me.  Maybe it's the computer 
>>> scientist in me... Idk?  I love that b8971 clock too.  There are some 
>>> b5971s on eBay now... Anyone built a mini one? I've seen board Gerbers on 
>>> the net for them.
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> Bill
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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

['John Rehwinkel' via neonixie-l]

Jan Wüsten has B5971 for €16 apiece.

> On Mar 28, 2019, at 10:08 AM, Nicholas Stock  wrote:
> 
> Those 5971’s are a bit steep.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 28, 2019, at 07:02, Michail Wilson  wrote:
>> 
>> Bill,
>> 
>> I'm glad you got the tubes you wanted; however, I am a little surprised that 
>> you didn't take me up on my offer of $1000 plus shipping for six tested tube 
>> when you contacted me directly.
>> 
>> As for the 5971's, thanks for mentioning that they were on ebay.  I've been 
>> searching for quite some time and it turns out my search was for 'B-5971' 
>> and that doesn't work for '5971 nixie'.
>> 
>> Michail 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Bill Notfaded
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 9:39 PM
>> To: neonixie-l
>> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 
>> 14-segment character
>> 
>> Sorry to ruin it for you guys... It's not a scam of some kind.  I bought the 
>> tubes on Monday night.  I've been fighting with the other bidder over a 
>> bunch of auctions.  It was my birthday Monday night and I wasn't going to 
>> let him win that one even though it cost me as much as my new Rigol mso5000 
>> oscilliscope.  I way over paid but I just might do it to him again on the 
>> other two.  I also found another secret source for cheaper b7971's but 
>> they're getting scarcer and scarcer and it's hit or miss too.  I bought 2 
>> more last night for 150$.  Month ago I got 6 for 400$ total and 2 for 250$ 
>> total from two different people.  I'm working on a new smartsocket array and 
>> just bought a new mod-six from Michael... Hopefully shipping this week!  I 
>> also have a v8-08 mod-six that's older.  I think 7971's are going to become 
>> the next 568's.  I love the Nixie glow but being able to make something 
>> besides numbers is priceless to me.  Maybe it's the computer scientist in 
>> me... Idk?  I love that b8971 clock too.  There are some b5971s on eBay 
>> now... Anyone built a mini one? I've seen board Gerbers on the net for them.
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Nicholas Stock]

Those 5971’s are a bit steep.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2019, at 07:02, Michail Wilson  wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> I'm glad you got the tubes you wanted; however, I am a little surprised that 
> you didn't take me up on my offer of $1000 plus shipping for six tested tube 
> when you contacted me directly.
> 
> As for the 5971's, thanks for mentioning that they were on ebay.  I've been 
> searching for quite some time and it turns out my search was for 'B-5971' and 
> that doesn't work for '5971 nixie'.
> 
> Michail 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Bill Notfaded
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 9:39 PM
> To: neonixie-l
> Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 
> 14-segment character
> 
> Sorry to ruin it for you guys... It's not a scam of some kind.  I bought the 
> tubes on Monday night.  I've been fighting with the other bidder over a bunch 
> of auctions.  It was my birthday Monday night and I wasn't going to let him 
> win that one even though it cost me as much as my new Rigol mso5000 
> oscilliscope.  I way over paid but I just might do it to him again on the 
> other two.  I also found another secret source for cheaper b7971's but 
> they're getting scarcer and scarcer and it's hit or miss too.  I bought 2 
> more last night for 150$.  Month ago I got 6 for 400$ total and 2 for 250$ 
> total from two different people.  I'm working on a new smartsocket array and 
> just bought a new mod-six from Michael... Hopefully shipping this week!  I 
> also have a v8-08 mod-six that's older.  I think 7971's are going to become 
> the next 568's.  I love the Nixie glow but being able to make something 
> besides numbers is priceless to me.  Maybe it's the computer scientist in 
> me... Idk?  I love that b8971 clock too.  There are some b5971s on eBay 
> now... Anyone built a mini one? I've seen board Gerbers on the net for them.
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Bill
> 
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RE: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Michail Wilson]

Bill,

I'm glad you got the tubes you wanted; however, I am a little surprised that 
you didn't take me up on my offer of $1000 plus shipping for six tested tube 
when you contacted me directly.

As for the 5971's, thanks for mentioning that they were on ebay.  I've been 
searching for quite some time and it turns out my search was for 'B-5971' and 
that doesn't work for '5971 nixie'.

Michail 

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From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Bill Notfaded
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 9:39 PM
To: neonixie-l
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 
14-segment character

Sorry to ruin it for you guys... It's not a scam of some kind.  I bought the 
tubes on Monday night.  I've been fighting with the other bidder over a bunch 
of auctions.  It was my birthday Monday night and I wasn't going to let him win 
that one even though it cost me as much as my new Rigol mso5000 oscilliscope.  
I way over paid but I just might do it to him again on the other two.  I also 
found another secret source for cheaper b7971's but they're getting scarcer and 
scarcer and it's hit or miss too.  I bought 2 more last night for 150$.  Month 
ago I got 6 for 400$ total and 2 for 250$ total from two different people.  I'm 
working on a new smartsocket array and just bought a new mod-six from 
Michael... Hopefully shipping this week!  I also have a v8-08 mod-six that's 
older.  I think 7971's are going to become the next 568's.  I love the Nixie 
glow but being able to make something besides numbers is priceless to me.  
Maybe it's the computer scientist in me... Idk?  I love that b8971 clock too.  
There are some b5971s on eBay now... Anyone built a mini one? I've seen board 
Gerbers on the net for them.

Best Regards,

Bill

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Nick]

The ZeroStat was, aledgedly, also good for killing annoying CB radios.

Supposedly (and I obviously have no knowledge of this) you zapped near the 
aerial and the RF input stage died.

Shocking, I know... Who would do such a thing ?

Nick

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Mac Doktor]

> On Mar 26, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Nicholas Stock  wrote:
> 
> I used to think they weren’t proper nixie tubes way back when i got into this 
> hobby. You know, back when they were going for under $20 dollars each. What a 
> muppet i was.

A friend of mine gave me one (with the socket) years ago. I just got it out and 
did a quick and dirty test with a ZeroStat "pistol". All the cathodes appear to 
be good.

The ZeroStat was designed for neutralizing the static charge on LPs that was 
generated by pulling them out of the sleeve. Imported LPs from France and the 
UK didn't have the vinyl formulation that bled the charge off like US 
pressings. Three zaps and all the high pitched "whistles" disappeared.

It's basically a piezo crystal just like a barbecue grill ignitor. I don't play 
LPs anymore but it's great for checking neon and argon devices.


> On Mar 27, 2019, at 12:58 AM, 'jf...@my-deja.com' via neonixie-l 
>  wrote:
> 
> I got mine from John Meshna in Lynn MA for $1 each, including sockets,  back 
> in the mid -1970s.  I think they were $5 for a pair with sockets and  the 
> board full of HV driver transistors.  Plus shipping, of course.

Man that brings back memories. I don't think I ever bought anything from them 
but I received catalogs for years.


Terry Bowman, KA4HJH
"The Mac Doctor"

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Jeff Walton]

I had some 7971's from the late 60's from Poly Packs, back when the "ebay" 
of the day was the back pages of camera and electronics magazines. Yep, I 
wish that I had bought a bunch.  Who knew?

In the case of the auction that was originally mentioned on eBay, I agree 
with a previous comment that there is some monkey-business going on with 
the seller and his supposed "bidders".  I suppose that his idea is that if 
you make it look like something is in high demand at a high price, then it 
becomes a valuable reality.  I do think that a great deal of the real nixie 
market actually lives on this forum and I give people credit for being 
smarter than that.  The 7971 tubes have a going rate of $75 to $110 based 
on the last several years.  There are a few outliers on each side of the 
price range but most are right in there.  The current listing of $380 for 
two B7971's is from a couple "low count" and a zero history seller.  They 
are either a scam or they are incredibly naive about how to throw away 
money.  At that price, I have some to sell.

The other interesting nixie is the Z586/Z5860.  These are the nixies that 
Dalibor Farny has revived and we are seeing a few people trying to get $80 
for defective tubes or $300+ for NOS.  These were in the $150 -$200 range 
just a year ago and I don't think that they have suddenly gone short 
supply.  I do think that the supply is limited but I also believe that 
there are a few vendors trying to drive up the price. 

It's not surprising that everyone has started to rediscover how cool nixie 
displays really are.  There is no such thing as "too much" of the soft 
orange glow of a glass display tube! 

On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 10:48:10 AM UTC-5, gregebert wrote:
>
> I recall Poly-Paks selling 7971 units back in the mid 1970's; one of those 
> barrel deals where I guess they literally had barrels of these things. I 
> cant tell you how many times I've kicked myself in the face for not buying 
> any of them. I'm guessing most of these came from brokerage houses that 
> were updating their info boards for commodity trading.
>
> The day *will* come when large LED displays will become equally 
> valuable
>
> Let's face it, we're all a bit nuts when it come to vintage 
> electronics..Yesterday's garbage is tomorrow's gold.
>

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[gregebert]

I recall Poly-Paks selling 7971 units back in the mid 1970's; one of those 
barrel deals where I guess they literally had barrels of these things. I 
cant tell you how many times I've kicked myself in the face for not buying 
any of them. I'm guessing most of these came from brokerage houses that 
were updating their info boards for commodity trading.

The day *will* come when large LED displays will become equally valuable

Let's face it, we're all a bit nuts when it come to vintage 
electronics..Yesterday's garbage is tomorrow's gold.

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

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On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 at 7:10:17 PM UTC-7, Pramanicin wrote:
>
> I used to think they weren’t proper nixie tubes way back when i got into 
> this hobby. You know, back when they were going for under $20 dollars each. 
> What a muppet i was.
>
> Burroughs called them "Alphanumeric Nixie Tubes" in the data sheet.

I got mine from John Meshna in Lynn MA for $1 each, including sockets,  
back in the mid -1970s.  I think they were $5 for a pair with sockets and  
the board full of HV driver transistors.  Plus shipping, of course.

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Nicholas Stock]

I used to think they weren’t proper nixie tubes way back when i got into this 
hobby. You know, back when they were going for under $20 dollars each. What a 
muppet i was.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 26, 2019, at 18:54, gregebert  wrote:
> 
> Supply and demand...
> 
> Personally, I think 7971's are butt-ugly, but they are so gigantic it's hard 
> to resist. I was going to bid on that pair because I need a replacement, but 
> not at that price.
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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[gregebert]

Supply and demand...

Personally, I think 7971's are butt-ugly, but they are so gigantic it's 
hard to resist. I was going to bid on that pair because I need a 
replacement, but not at that price.

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RE: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Michail Wilson]

So, it looks like a very good time to post a bunch for sale.  J

 

Michail

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Kevin A.
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 10:27 AM
To: neonixie-l
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 
14-segment character

 

While inflation and supply (or lack thereof) are reasons for price increases, a 
lot of it is a handful of sellers trying to fix the market (especially with 
regards to recent 7971 auctions). Take a look at the 2 tube auction currently 
underway. 0 feedback seller, same 6 feedback bidders as previous listings 
hiking the price by $300 with 8 days left in the auction. Painfully obvious BS.

 

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019, 12:30 PM Shaun Merrigan  
wrote:

I think this is part of a general upward trend in EBay prices.  I know that 
test older gear (Tek, HP) has become very pricey over the past couple of years. 
 

 

I have watched the prices of E1T tubes triple in three years. Some of this is 
due to a small, finite supply, but I attribute much of it to price comparison 
websites and vendors willing to sit on items for months or years.  

 

Shaun M.

 

Sent from my iPad6

 

No Regret

 


On Mar 26, 2019, at 08:25, Nicholas Stock  wrote:

Things are going a little crazy??? 4 B7971’s just sold for over $250 
eachthere’s another auction for two tubes with prices over 180 each 
currently..


  <https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/5QcAAOSwJjNckG9h/s-l200.jpg> 

Look at this on eBay
TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½ 
<https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F173842091160>
 " tall 14-segment character

 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Kevin A.]

While inflation and supply (or lack thereof) are reasons for price
increases, a lot of it is a handful of sellers trying to fix the market
(especially with regards to recent 7971 auctions). Take a look at the 2
tube auction currently underway. 0 feedback seller, same 6 feedback bidders
as previous listings hiking the price by $300 with 8 days left in the
auction. Painfully obvious BS.

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019, 12:30 PM Shaun Merrigan 
wrote:

> I think this is part of a general upward trend in EBay prices.  I know
> that test older gear (Tek, HP) has become very pricey over the past couple
> of years.
>
> I have watched the prices of E1T tubes triple in three years. Some of this
> is due to a small, finite supply, but I attribute much of it to price
> comparison websites and vendors willing to sit on items for months or
> years.
>
> Shaun M.
>
> Sent from my iPad6
>
> No Regret
>
>
> On Mar 26, 2019, at 08:25, Nicholas Stock  wrote:
>
> Things are going a little crazy??? 4 B7971’s just sold for over $250
> eachthere’s another auction for two tubes with prices over 180 each
> currently..
>
>
> Look at this on eBay
> TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character
> 
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Shaun Merrigan]

I think this is part of a general upward trend in EBay prices.  I know that 
test older gear (Tek, HP) has become very pricey over the past couple of years. 
 

I have watched the prices of E1T tubes triple in three years. Some of this is 
due to a small, finite supply, but I attribute much of it to price comparison 
websites and vendors willing to sit on items for months or years.  

Shaun M.

Sent from my iPad6

No Regret


> On Mar 26, 2019, at 08:25, Nicholas Stock  wrote:
> 
> Things are going a little crazy??? 4 B7971’s just sold for over $250 
> eachthere’s another auction for two tubes with prices over 180 each 
> currently..
> 
> 
> Look at this on eBay
> TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [neonixie-l] TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character

[Kevin A.]

I'm getting the impression that the same 3 people keep cooking their own
auctions on 7971s. Remember the 10 that sold in pairs on the display boards
late last year? Several auctions have popped up on what appear to be the
same tubes. Moreover, the same low feedback accounts keep bidding up every
auction in the first 2 days to well over $150 a tube. Appears to be eBay
scumbaggery at its finest!

On Tue, Mar 26, 2019, 10:25 AM Nicholas Stock  wrote:

> Things are going a little crazy??? 4 B7971’s just sold for over $250
> eachthere’s another auction for two tubes with prices over 180 each
> currently..
>
>
> Look at this on eBay
> TESTED 4 Nixie Tubes Burroughs B-7971 3½" tall 14-segment character
> 
>
>
>
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