Re: Gmail In Netsurf 3.9 / keyboard shortcut for Javascript
In article , Jim Nagel wrote: > Justin Wierbonski wrote on 21 Sep: > > ... is there a keyboard shortcut for turning off/on javascript? > Something I've wished for (on this list and elsewhere) for ages! Good > old Fresco, years ago, had a buttonbar item to switch its (primitive) > Javascript on and off. I have tried, but failed, to use !Keystroke to > set up such a key. Keystroke is an app still use... If I can fathom how to do it... I wonder if there's anyone left in the RISC OS arena who is expert on Keystroke? Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Missing images
In article , Richard Porter wrote: > Hi all, I've got a strange problem on one of my sites. > On http://www.mmpa.org.uk/ all of the gif images are missing, including > the yellow navigation buttons at the top. If you go to other pages the > "home" and "News" buttons are present. > On Otter Browser and on other platforms all the images are present. > Before I raise a bug report I'd like to know if other NetSurf users are > seeing the same fault. There was a recent update to the news panel which > increased it's size. This could have affected the rendering. No problem here Richard, the yellow nav buttons all display and work using Netsurf Dev CI#4363 Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: NetSurf web sites
In article <921e311a57.davem...@my.inbox.com>, David Higton wrote: > Also I notice that the !Fetch_NS app no longer works, complaining of > an incorrectly formatted filename at line 24. Probably not your > problem, but I struggle to see how it works and thus how the error > occurs. Help would be appreciated! There's a thread and solution on the c.s.apps newsgroup. Fetch_NS. Chris Johnson suggested and Frank put it in a form that even idiots like me could eventually understand, with a tweak to the Fetch_NS settings file. You need to view the thread to get the whole picture. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: launching a PDF from a link
In article , Jim Nagel wrote: > Tim Hill wrote on 11 Jul: > > Yes, I think that was Jim's desire: click on a link to a PDF on a > > webpage and it opens in your default PDF viewer without the save-drag > > & double-click. > Gzackly. The extra steps are too much for the technophobic Mrs N. > She can view a Jpeg link without extra steps, so why must Netsurf > require fifflefaffle for PDF? > (Similar Q for MPro (and Pluto?) email with Jpeg vs PDF attachments.) I know this is not what you want to see/hear... When I get a PDF attached email in Pluto I have absolutely no problem double clicking the attachment PDF and getting it opened in *my* default PDF reader... Foxit PDF reader. I get so many PDFs these days that will not open in RISC OS PDF readers... There are only so many times an app can piss me off before I give up and get the stuff transferred automatically via Uniserver to the PC side and Foxit. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Window position
In article , Jim Nagel wrote: > Tim Hill wrote on 7 Apr: > > In article <30d0062956@abbeypress.net>, > >Jim Nagel wrote: > >> Or maybe a new trick such as Shift-Adjust-click could open the new > >> window *behind* the one I click in. (Perhaps this is comparable to > >> the likes of Firefox, where you can configure whether opening a new > >> tab puts you immediately into the new tab or lets you remain in the > >> present one, in my case the list of search results.) > > Shift/Adjust seems to be in use. Ctrl/Adjust seems unused. > After posting that, I thot: Adjust-doubleclick would be even nicer > (all with one hand), if such a thing is allowed in such a situation. Adjust double click opens a child/subdirectory and closes the parent/directory in one action. D. --
Re: KYP West
In article <562119693cbbai...@argonet.co.uk>, Brian wrote: > In article , >Richard Porter wrote: > > On 22 Mar 2017 Tony Moore wrote: > > > On 22 Mar 2017, Brian wrote: > > >> This looks to a really interesting site > > > URL? > > > Tony > > I would hazard a guess that it might be http://www.kypwest.org.uk/ > That's correct. Sorry, I fired the email off before I remembered that I > had forgotten to include it. I went, I looked... And for balance, I didn't find the site interesting... What's more, it didn't display very well in NetSurf. D. --
Re: Failure to load
In article , Bryan Hogan wrote: > In message <55b447fe36d...@triffid.co.uk> > Dave Symes wrote: > > Alt-Break is a PITA and here very rarely if ever works, most times it > > just freezes RISC OS and can't be got out of without rebooting RISC OS. > But RISC OS was already frozen, so trying Alt-Break might get you out > of it and if not it hasn't made the situation any worse! > Bryan. Expectation never fulfilled... Particularly since I went Virtual RISC OS (Either path, VRPC or RPCEmu), not once has Alt-Break freed anything, not once. Out of habit (20 years running a SARPC) I still automatically do it... Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Failure to load
In article , Bryan Hogan wrote: > In message <61827.82.153.33.53.1471937563.squir...@email.orpheusnet.co > .uk> > Gerald Dodson wrote: > > When trying to shut down, NS seemed to just loop. I was unable to find > > any way of gaining access to the Iyo 100 so switched of power. > Too late for this time, but if this ever happens again remember that > you can press Alt-Break to just kill the currently hung task. > Bryan. Alt-Break is a PITA and here very rarely if ever works, most times it just freezes RISC OS and can't be got out of without rebooting RISC OS. Dave -- Dave Triffid
memory-gobbling on Virtual Acorn
In article <3f4747b255@abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel wrote: > I'm using Virtual RiscPC on my ol' Windows XP laptop while away from > base. Various wrinkles of this setup are still unfamiliar to me. > One is that Netsurf (recent, #3538) too quickly eats up all the free > memory. > What can I do to avoid this? I guess I either need to fix Netsurf or > need to find a way to make Windows give more memory to VRPC. Haven't > yet found a way to do either; advice welcome, please. Inside the Models directory. open the "RISC OS Nnn(JIT)" directory.(Which-ever one you are using). (VRPC-DL only has one, older paid for versions of VRPC have three). Open the Model.cfg file in a text editor. Look for the [Ram] entry and change accordingly. Word of caution... 256Mb is the biggest to use for a stable RISC OS. You can try a max of 512Mb but as some of us have found (Known problems) it can lead to a very wobbly RISC OS. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Unicode font library could not be initialised
In article <557cf33cbbd...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > In article <557ce86b3bd...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave Symes wrote: > > RISC OS 6.20 running on RPCEmu 0.8.14 (Win 7 Pro 64bit) > > A few days ago I was using Netsurf okay, but this morning it will not > > run reporting the subject line... > [Snip] > Couldn't say what version as NS wouldn't run so I couldn't see... > Just fathomed out (Thanks for the prompt Jeremy) which version of > NetSurf I have installed. > version 3433 Of March 2016. > Dave Okay, as no answer was forthcoming, I sorted the problem myself. Now I suppose you want me to tell you... After checking all the stuff required by NS was in Boot and in the required places, I though what the is going on... Anyway to cut a longer story short, it was a bum Font, one that I'd recently converted from TrueType using !TTF2f Version 0.04 All because I can not longer use !effTTT because it's tied to a now failing SARPC by a deceased author. If I was a really, really grumpy person, I would write a few more choice paragraphs, but I'm a pussy cat so i'll keep quiet and just chew my desk. ;-) Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Unicode font library could not be initialised
In article <557ce86b3bd...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > RISC OS 6.20 running on RPCEmu 0.8.14 (Win 7 Pro 64bit) > A few days ago I was using Netsurf okay, but this morning it will not run > reporting the subject line... [Snip] Couldn't say what version as NS wouldn't run so I couldn't see... Just fathomed out (Thanks for the prompt Jeremy) which version of NetSurf I have installed. version 3433 Of March 2016. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Unicode font library could not be initialised
RISC OS 6.20 running on RPCEmu 0.8.14 (Win 7 Pro 64bit) A few days ago I was using Netsurf okay, but this morning it will not run reporting the subject line... >From Reporter: 07:24:49.98 [024346C8/] WimpSlot -min 7279k -max 7279k 07:24:49.98 [024346C8/] Run .!RunImage 2>.WWW.NetSurf.Log 07:24:51.44 [Appl/] RMEnsure SharedUnixLibrary 1.07 RMLoad System:Modules.SharedULib 07:24:51.44 [Appl/] RMEnsure SharedUnixLibrary 1.07 RMLoad UnixLib:Modules.SharedULib 07:24:51.44 [Appl/] RMEnsure SharedUnixLibrary 1.07 Error XYZ 07:24:51.86 [Appl/5E803A44] Exec 07:25:05.44 TaskInit &5E603A44 NetSurfKick CAO 3A51004 Slot 64K 07:25:05.45 TaskInit &5E803A44 NetSurf CAO 8000 Slot 7280K 07:25:05.55 ** WimpError ** from NetSurf Error : &0001 Message: The Unicode font library could not be initialized. Please report this to the developers. 07:25:05.55 [Appl/NetSurf] Exec 07:25:13.06 [Appl/NetSurf] FontRemove NetSurf:Resources.Fonts. 07:25:13.14 TaskClose &5E803A44 NetSurf 07:25:13.14 [WindowManager/] Exec Please. Any ideas what's going wrong and possible solution. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: bad formatting of news page
In article , Jim Nagel wrote: > What is it about the formatting of my local newspaper's web pages? > Netsurf shows the main column of text so narrow that every line > requires horizontal scrolling. Typical example: > http://www.centralsomersetgazette.co.uk/Baily-s-costs-dream-revive-2-000-jobs-Morland-s/story-28054944-detail/story.html > I find the least painful way to read the story is to save the whole > page as text and then read the textfile. > Has the website programmer made some inept setting in the stylesheet > (CSS), or is Netsurf making some mistake or interpreting something too > literally? > I presume browsers such as Firefox show what the designer intended. It's interesting that Firefox 45.0.1 does display the the text okay, but some of the site material down the Right hand side column is missing. With both MS Internet Explorer and Google Chrome both the article and the RH column material displays what appears to be correctly. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Feature Requests: Privacy Settings
In article <5674d337.3020...@yahoo.com>, Luke wrote: > This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) > --cTNgUuIrTT65xck0HiQ4WDB9vUEpEX9Ku > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hello, > I recently discovered your browser, and think it may be a good > replacement to Mozilla Firefox since they are bloating it and running it > into the ground with DRM, uneeded features, and now blocking so-called > unauthorized addons. > Overall NetSurf seems like a good replacement, but it is missing some > key features for user privacy. I will list the three most important > below for your consideration: > * Setting a Custom Useragent from Preferences > * Cookie-Controller (Allow or Block session cookies per site) > * Javascript Control (Similar to NoScript, or simply a whitelist of > sites allowed to run JS while blacklisting all the rest) > Other things which may or may not be relevant for later consideration: > * Block DOM > * Block WebRTC > * Disable Fingerprinting > Thank you. To be unkind... Is the date April the First? ;-) < But seriously... and I *do* use NetSurf for a few things... While I agree with your Firefox sentiment, NetSurf is a long way off being usable as an everyday browser. Pale Moon a Firefox derivative is by far, a better solution for the disgruntled current Firefox user needing a comprehensive browser. It continues to be as Firefox was before Australis, and as such, is far more user friendly. Dave Who by the grace of the "Classic Theme Restorer" Addon can still use FX. NB: For the time being the Unsigned Addon farce can be overcome by changing a setting in "about:config" "xpinstall.signatures.required" set it to "false". Dunno how long it'll be before that is ripped out, but ATM it does work. D. -- Dave Triffid
Re: Slightly odd behaviour #3225
In article , Peter Young wrote: [Snippy] > No idea about AcornURI, mine seems to be 0.25, (02 Sep 2013), but I > have no idea who wrote it. Strange business, the AcornURI I have on my ROOL RISC OS 5.22 install says it is 1.04 (May 2006) Dave RISC OS 6.20 is AcornURI 0.12 D. -- Dave Triffid
Re: BBC News
In article <75868bac54.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > On 30 Mar 2015 Tony Moore wrote: > > According to http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-the-editors-32016166 > > published by the BBC, on 23 March 2015 > >Our new "responsive" design [of the BBC News website], which we've > >just launched for desktop computer, aims to make sure the site looks > >great whichever device or screen size you are on - mobile, tablet or > >desktop. > > However, http://www.bbc.co.uk/news , displayed by NetSurf #2655, on a > > RiscPC, seems to be a version for mobile, and looks far from 'great'. > > Do others see the same mess? > Yes, a horrible mess! I think this may be the same problem as the one > I reported in the "Malformed site" thread, starting on 19 February, > 2015, in that the mess I saw there is similar to the mess on the BBC > site. That was a CSS problem, and now happens 100% of the time. > "In the interests of product improvement, we reserve the right to foul > it up at any time". > Best wishes, > Peter. It even looks toilet solids in Firefox. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: links no longer work
In article <60d1905a54.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony Moore wrote: > On 22 Oct 2014, Dave Symes wrote: > > In article <68164b5a54.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, > >Tony Moore wrote: > > > Using RiscPC, RO 6.20, NS #2190, the links no longer work > > > > > To see this, load a page, eg > > > file:///NetSurf:/Resources/en/welcome.html and hover the pointer > > > over a link. The pointer remains a select-arrow and doesn't change > > > to hand-pointing, as it should. Clicking on the link does nothing, > > > and the status bar remains blank. > > > > > Moving the pointer around, shows that the active location for each > > > link is displaced by about three lines above the link. > > > > > Does anyone else see this bizarre problem? > > > > Tony, the answer is no. > > SARPC RO 6.20 and NetSurf #2190 > > > > Here the links all produce the hand pointer, and clicking on a few of > > them at random, they all work and produce the required pages. > Many thanks for the response. > Here, NS #2136 behaves correctly, however NS #2190 doesn't. > I think that the problem has something to do with the font size. In > Choices > Fonts, the default, and minimum, font sizes are both 12 pt. > file:///NetSurf:/Resources/en/welcome.html opens at 100% scale but the > fonts, apart from the headline, are displayed at 14 pt, however it seems > that the locations of the active areas may have been determined assuming > a display 12 pt. This results in the active areas being displaced to the > left, and upwards. Both displacements are proportional to the distance > from the top-left corner of the page. > Increasing the display scale to 110% causes the fonts to be displayed at > 12 pt and the active areas then match the link locations. Reverting to > 100% scale causes the fonts to become smaller than 12 pt, but the active > areas still match the link locations. > Other pages are also affected, but a workaround seems to be to increase > /decrease the display scale. > Tony That's interesting Tony. I played around with the Def Font sizes, including to match yours but it didn't make any difference, NS #2190 continued to work okay. Not much help I appreciate, but worth noting. BTW. My computer Font manager is "EasyFont Pro" Version 5.18u. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: links no longer work
In article <68164b5a54.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony Moore wrote: > Using RiscPC, RO 6.20, NS #2190, the links no longer work > To see this, load a page, eg file:///NetSurf:/Resources/en/welcome.html > and hover the pointer over a link. The pointer remains a select-arrow > and doesn't change to hand-pointing, as it should. Clicking on the link > does nothing, and the status bar remains blank. > Moving the pointer around, shows that the active location for each link > is displaced by about three lines above the link. > Does anyone else see this bizarre problem? > Tony Tony, the answer is no. SARPC RO 6.20 and NetSurf #2190 Here the links all produce the hand pointer, and clicking on a few of them at random, they all work and produce the required pages. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: My wish: To be able to save just the HTML file
In article <9da9214a54@abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel wrote: > Which OS are you using, Vesa? Dunno about the kit you are using Jim, but with Pluto, we can examine the header of the posting and tell... ;-) That said, I do know about the kit you are using... Here's what you are using... Messenger-Pro/7.06-wpb4 (MsgServe/7.06S) (RISC-OS/5.18) Vesa is: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 We don't even need to examine the header, We can configure the Setups file to automatically show the relevant header data. Not being a user of RO MessPro I have no idea if it has any similar configs. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Unacceptable Type
In article <17bd023054.c...@cdewhurst2010.btinternet.com>, Christopher Dewhurst wrote: > Hi all, > Have just uploaded a .ZIP file and needed to test I have the right URL > to give out to people so I tried pointing to it with Netsurf (typing > in the full URL) but it's complaining "Unacceptable Type". > This doesn't seem to happen with other browsers/platforms (where said > Zipfile downloads OK). > Have looked for documentation on this error but to no avail. > Is it something I am doing wrong with Netsurf ? > #2040 on Raspberry Pi RO 5.21 > thanks Not much help in solving your problem, but FWIW. Netsurf #2041 on RO 6.20 works correctly when pointed at .zip file URLs I have. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: BBC web site
On 08 Jan, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: > In article <53c67d0b16d...@triffid.co.uk>, > Dave Symes wrote: > [Snippy] > > Having looked closer at her install I see it's quite few versions > > back... > > I've now updated it to Dev CI #1602 and the problem has gone away. > > Sorry about that... :-/ > > Dave > Now moved on from the BBC... > Slight problem remains. > NS installed on VRPC running 4.39 (Her machine) and RPCEmu (My second) > running 6.20. > The #1602 downloaded and installed is the version with JS, but the > NetSurf Choices-Content "Disable JavaScript" will *not stay unticked*, > even though, in ...WWW.NetSurf.Choices is shows as "enable_javascript:1" > However on my real SARPC 6.20 same NetSurf it does honour the Choices > setting. > Any thoughts please? > Thanks > Dave Sorry number 2. :-/ 5 minutes after posting the above, I had a lightbulb moment and the problem is now solved. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: BBC web site
In article <53c67d0b16d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: [Snippy] > Having looked closer at her install I see it's quite few versions > back... > I've now updated it to Dev CI #1602 and the problem has gone away. > Sorry about that... :-/ > Dave Now moved on from the BBC... Slight problem remains. NS installed on VRPC running 4.39 (Her machine) and RPCEmu (My second) running 6.20. The #1602 downloaded and installed is the version with JS, but the NetSurf Choices-Content "Disable JavaScript" will *not stay unticked*, even though, in ...WWW.NetSurf.Choices is shows as "enable_javascript:1" However on my real SARPC 6.20 same NetSurf it does honour the Choices setting. Any thoughts please? Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: BBC web site
In article <53c67a288ad...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > I need a bit of help please, as Fay's Netsurf is playing up.. > A while back the BBC website on Netsurf started to redirect > http://www.bbc.co.uk to http://m.bbc.co.uk > There was some solution, but I can't remember what it was (old age). > Can someone prompt me again. > Thank > Dave Having looked closer at her install I see it's quite few versions back... I've now updated it to Dev CI #1602 and the problem has gone away. Sorry about that... :-/ Dave -- Dave Triffid
BBC web site
I need a bit of help please, as Fay's Netsurf is playing up.. A while back the BBC website on Netsurf started to redirect http://www.bbc.co.uk to http://m.bbc.co.uk There was some solution, but I can't remember what it was (old age). Can someone prompt me again. Thank Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist display illegible
In article <0039c5d3.01dc65003...@smtp.freeola.net>, Peter Slegg wrote: > I fixed mine in the choices file: > sys_colour_Window:ff > Peter I find that a bit hard on my eyes, so use dd instead (Very light grey). Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist display illegible
In article <53531ae9e1ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>, cj wrote: > In article <7120175353.davem...@my.inbox.com>, >Dave Higton wrote: > > The hotlist display was OK up to CI1201. CI1212 and CI1219 display > > the hotlist as black on black. RISC OS 5.18, Iyonix, 512 MiB. > > Reverted to CI1201 and it's OK again. > > I'll put in a bug report. > Have you tried deleting your Choices file, as per suggestions in > other threads? As someone also getting the same problem, I did just that, and thereafter it was okay. However, I'm using two versions of NetSurf, the latest and an older version, when I re-use the older version, then later go to the latest version the Hotlist is back to Black. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Long URL annoyance
In article <53286a1e80t...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <9527682853.zen44...@zen.co.uk>, >Simon Smith wrote: > > A fix which would mitigate matters is if the proportion of the lower > > scroll bar (or, even better, the absolute size in pixels) allocated to > > the horizontal scroll was configurable and/or persistent from window to > > window. > It always has been. Set the position you want, and from the window menu: > Display > Save as default > > only for the new link to come up in a new window with the old 50% > > horizontal-scroll bar width > I believe the default is 2/3 of the width to the status bar. > Go to about:Choices, hit F4, type "toolbar_status_size". I have 66.67%: > toolbar_status_size:6667 That's interesting, the default on my NetSurf install is 5000 or 50% and I've never changed it. (Ever). Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist on RISCOS
In article , Tony Moore wrote: > On 31 Dec 2012, "Gerald Dodson" wrote: > > I often have trouble re-arranging the Hotlist. In particular grouping > > items into a directory. At the moment I have a new directory into > > which I have been trying to place a number of items not currently in a > > directory. > Drag the selected items to the _lower_ half of the directory icon. > Tony And you'll be lucky if you hit the spot (Once in a blue moon). The receptive bit for the D&D must be about one or two pixels in size, and don't ever bother if the Directory is at the bottom of the window, you'll never get it in. Yes I know, drag it (Directory) up the window... Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: BBC news site misbehaving.
In article <8b63d0f552.c.n@virgin.net>, ChrisF wrote: > In message <50839.81.147.79.162.1354120626.squirrel@email.orpheusnet.c > o.uk> > "Learning Partners" wrote: > > I do not know of !Ticker - will google it - but what does it do and is > > it IYO friendly? > I run it (v 25.11.11)on the Iyo 5.16 and the Armini. > It's a news ticker which runs across the screen. You can place it at > the top or bottom. You can choose your newsfeed from within its > choices. Sorry, I don't know the source. It can be found at... http://www.chris-johnson.org.uk/software/3party.html D. -- Dave Triffid
Re: Text box edit
On 28 Oct, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: > In article <82b068e552.thebe...@sarno.freeserve.co.uk>, >Geoffrey Baxendale wrote: > > In message <52e565c99ed...@triffid.co.uk> > > Dave Symes wrote: > [Snippy] > > Not seen it with Firefox. > > > > > > Can you look at a mini statement, or even a full statement online > > > with NS? > > > > > The mini statement doesn't do anything, never used that, but clicking > > on the account gives a full transaction list, which is what I use. The > > "View latest statement" also works. I can pay bills OK as well. > > > Dave > > > > > Looks like I don't expect as much as you. ;-) > > TTFN > That's interesting... > Being weekend, I have some ibanking to do, so I'll have another session > with NS rather than Fx and see. > Maybe LTSB have been fiddling with the site again. ;-) > Dave Okay, obviously done the things I need, so haven't been through everything on the LTSB ibank pages. >From the Accounts page, no mini statement, which also means NO full statement. In which case you have to open each individual account and get the statement from there. Transfers. Using NS you don't get the information, such as "Money available" which you do get using Fx as part of the process. Finally, granted a computer thing rather than script... But just for the fun... She using NS and a SARPC started loggin in the LTSB at the same time as I started using Fx 16.02 on the laptop. Me, logged in done a couple of transactions and logged out. She, still only partway through the login process. D. -- Dave Triffid
Re: Text box edit
In article <82b068e552.thebe...@sarno.freeserve.co.uk>, Geoffrey Baxendale wrote: > In message <52e565c99ed...@triffid.co.uk> > Dave Symes wrote: [Snippy] > Not seen it with Firefox. > > > > Can you look at a mini statement, or even a full statement online with > > NS? > > > The mini statement doesn't do anything, never used that, but clicking on > the account gives a full transaction list, which is what I use. The > "View latest statement" also works. I can pay bills OK as well. > > Dave > > > Looks like I don't expect as much as you. ;-) > TTFN That's interesting... Being weekend, I have some ibanking to do, so I'll have another session with NS rather than Fx and see. Maybe LTSB have been fiddling with the site again. ;-) Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Text box edit
In article <88595ae552.thebe...@sarno.freeserve.co.uk>, Geoffrey Baxendale wrote: [Snippy] > It is working as normal here. Just checked my accounts and made a > transfer. (NS #529 RO 6.3) > Must be something funny at your end Dave. I didn't say everything... Yes you can still do a transfer, but you don't get the info onscreen about the transfer in the detail you get with Fx. Can you look at a mini statement, or even a full statement online with NS? Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Text box edit
In article <52e55560eerh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: [Snippy] > The following failed: RBS + NatWest (UK) (unsupported > browser), Cumberland Building Society Business Banking (UK) > (Virtual keypad does not work), HSBC (France) (Returns to > Login Screen), Citibank (Belgium) (Blank Screen), > Postfinance (Switzerland) (JavaScript required). > I imagine most others would fail too, for any number of > reasons, not necessarily scripting. LloydsTSB and Halifax can be added to that list Russell. A short while back we could still do some stuff on the LTSB, but since they re-worked it we can't even view our online statements. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Text box edit
In article , Richard Porter wrote: [Snippy] > That said I sometimes use Edit to compose the text in case there's a > problem with the web site and it gets lost. Also it gives me the > option of trying another browser. > -- > Richard Porter Yes my wife who uses NetSurf a lot does that, compose in Edit, then copies to the text area. Can't be bothered myself, so I use Fx (16.02 ATM) and if it fails, an addon called Lazarus returns the writing to me. FWIW. I still use NetSurf on RO for a few bits and bobs, but recently the final nails started to fall when LTSB reworked their online banking site a short while back and it became impossible (due to lack of scripting) to do much there other than view the site. Shame, but practicalities rule. D. -- Dave Triffid
Re: Changes at QVC
In article <0769efd452.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Peter Young wrote: > On 25 Sep 2012 Dave Symes wrote: > > Oh dear, Fay is not a happy person at the moment, apparently QVC have > > re-designed their front page, and as she uses NetSurf (r13571) to view > > the stuff, suddenly she can't see menus and such like that a couple of > > days ago she could. > > I have to assume it's something to do with more javascript, but way > > outside my paygrade so to speak. > > Could someone with knowledge please have a quick look at... > > http://www.qvcuk.com > > It's mainly the menus down the lefthand side. > I don't have knowledge, but in so far as my knowledge goes, I've done > a bit of furkling. Here, the menus on the left show briefly on > loading, but are then overwritten by a blank pane. Looking at the > source, (F8) it seems to teem with JavaScript indeed; StrongED reports > "79 hits on 49 lines". I also looked on their FAQ page, on which is: > > To enjoy most of our content your browser must also be set to the > following options: > JavaScript enabled > ActiveX enabled (Internet Explorer only) > Pop-ups allowed from www.qvcuk.com > [Snippy] > With best wishes, > Peter. At the moment I've got her to use the status bar... That is slowly scroll the mouse pointer down where the menu should display, looking carefully at the status bar on the bottom of the NS window, as the pointer scrolls down, the links are shown and she can double click 'em. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Changes at QVC
Oh dear, Fay is not a happy person at the moment, apparently QVC have re-designed their front page, and as she uses NetSurf (r13571) to view the stuff, suddenly she can't see menus and such like that a couple of days ago she could. I have to assume it's something to do with more javascript, but way outside my paygrade so to speak. Could someone with knowledge please have a quick look at... http://www.qvcuk.com It's mainly the menus down the lefthand side. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist
In article , Nick Roberts wrote: [Snippy] > Check the preferences - General group, 'Add URLs to main book'. > If this is ticked, BookMaker will put add any new URLs at the botton of > the hotlist. > If it isn't, adding a URL will put up a menu of folders to choose from. It is not ticked, no Menu of folders arrives, and the URL is added to the main book. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist
In article <52a7909659stuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>, lists wrote: > In article <52a78e014dd...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave Symes wrote: > > I see it now can, but it doesn't appear to interface very well as when > > I Add to Hotlist I don't get a choice of what directory it goes in, it > > just puts it in the default place. > I do here, have you got the latest version - 2.15 Yes. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist
In article <52a75401a9stuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>, lists wrote: > In article <52a7433e91d...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave Symes wrote: > > > I use !Bookmaker, works fine. > > Thank you Stuart. > > She doesn't. > Sorry, should have been more clear. My suggestion is to use !BookMaker. > With !BookMaker running and boxes created, when I click "Add to hotlist", > I get a list of the boxes in !BookMaker I can choose to add to. We used to use Bookmaker a lot, but we stopped using Bookmaker because it didn't interface with NetSurf. I see it now can, but it doesn't appear to interface very well as when I Add to Hotlist I don't get a choice of what directory it goes in, it just puts it in the default place. Anyway, it appears She's sorted and has no intention of doing anything other. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist
In article <52a716f93astuartli...@orpheusinternet.co.uk>, lists wrote: > In article <52a70d2281d...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave Symes wrote: > > She uses NetSurf a lot and would like to sort out the mess that is her > > Hotlist, so she's created a couple of directories in the list but can't > > get anything to go into those directories. > I use !Bookmaker, works fine. Thank you Stuart. She doesn't. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist
In article <52a711c566t...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <52a70d2281d...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave Symes wrote: > > How does she take an existing Hotlist entry and put it in one of her > > directories? > >From the user guide: > "As with filer windows, selections can be made by dragging selection > boxes and adjust clicking can be used to add or remove items from the > selection. Selections can then be dragged and dropped within the > hotlist management window to move them around. It is possible to drop > a selection into a closed directory by releasing it over the bottom > half of the target directory. Dropping the selection over the top half > of a directory or address will insert the selection above that item. > Finally, dropping a selection over the lower half of an address will > move it below the address." > -- http://www.netsurf-browser.org/documentation/guide#Hotlist Indeed, thanks Problem is... She can't drag anything to the bottom of the list where the directory resides, it is totally unreachable, any part of the icon. By getting her to drag the directory up the list a few spaces, it becomes reachable. Dave FWIW. I've tried this on my install of NS with the same result. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist
In article <62f511a752.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony Moore wrote: > On 28 Jun 2012, Brian Howlett wrote: > > On 28 Jun, Dave Symes wrote: > [snip] > > > How does she take an existing Hotlist entry and put it in one of her > > > directories? > > > > Drag 'n' drop seems to work... > You need to drop the selection on the _lower+ half of a directory icon, > otherwise the selection is moved to the space above the directory. > Tony Sorry chaps, that's not the problem. See my last posting, but to sumarise... She can't drag anything to the bottom of the list where the directory resides, it is totally unreachable, any part of the icon. By getting her to drag the directory up the list a few spaces, it becomes reachable. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Hotlist
In article , Brian Howlett wrote: > On 28 Jun, Dave Symes wrote: > > Fay wants to know something about the NS hotlist, so If the answer is > > known, I appreciate the solution. > > She uses NetSurf a lot and would like to sort out the mess that is her > > Hotlist, so she's created a couple of directories in the list but can't > > get anything to go into those directories. > > No point in asking me... Which is why I'm asking here. > > How does she take an existing Hotlist entry and put it in one of her > > directories? > > Thanks > Drag 'n' drop seems to work... It didn't for her. Then I had a lightbulb moment. The particular director was at the very bottom of the list, so she could get anything she grabbed to actually drag over it... It wouldn't go down to the bottom of the list. So I got her to create another directory below that one and lo and behold, she can now drag stuff into that required directory. Of course she still can't drag anything to the newley created very bottom directory. This set me thinking... If she drags that bottom (Newley created directory) up a few places, it can now be accessed. There is something dodgy happening (Bug). The version she is using... Dev (23 March 2012 R13571) Dave -- Dave Triffid
Hotlist
Fay wants to know something about the NS hotlist, so If the answer is known, I appreciate the solution. She uses NetSurf a lot and would like to sort out the mess that is her Hotlist, so she's created a couple of directories in the list but can't get anything to go into those directories. No point in asking me... Which is why I'm asking here. How does she take an existing Hotlist entry and put it in one of her directories? Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Digest mode
In article <8d001425ead6b919cdaeed0ce55f3f6b-EhVcX1lFRQVaRwYcDTpQCEFddQZLVF5dQUNBAjBbXkNGV10MQV13B0tTWzBeQkYBX1tcRlFV-webmailer2@s, m0n0 wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 29.03.2012, 11:55 +0200 schrieb george greenfield > : > > I too prefer individual messages, for same reasons as Richard states. > > I tend to ignore the digest, TBH. > Sorry, I don't understand. > Digest mode can be selected by the user, right? So if you don't enable > it, you won't get > it. How can you ignore something which isn't there? > Greets, > m Trouble is, a lot of folks are very bad at snipping, so when they reply to a digest version, we none digest receivers can a get a bucket load of sh one tee as well. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Serious? bug saving - always crashes on second save
In article <796c566b52.roger...@rogerarm.freeuk.com>, Roger Darlington wrote: > On 4 Mar 2012, cj wrote: > > In article , > >Roger Darlington wrote: > >> http://www.bsbimaps.org.uk/atlas/main.php > >> Then wait for the page to come up, press menu, and Save> SaveAs and > >> drag it to a disc > > Are you using 'Save' or 'Full save'? In either case I can save > > multiple pages - changing the leafname since the default is always > > the same. You will need to give a bit more info on exactly how you > > are doing things. > Save only, not full save. There is no 'Full Save' in the Save> SaveAs > bit... > I change the leaf-name in the Save dialog box. It doesn't crash until > I drag and drop the save icon onto an open directory. > > I am on Iyonix RISC OS 5.18 and Netsurf r13502 Why don't you just right click on the Netsurf toolbar floppy disk icon? Dave -- Dave Triffid
Netsurf Running Out of Memory
In article <1325633409.3667.8.camel@duiker>, John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Mon, 2012-01-02 at 18:08 +0000, Dave Symes wrote: > > Does Netsurf log any private details, like accounts numbers and > > passwords? > Not deliberately. If in doubt, search the log file for likely things. > Alternatively, if the log file contains anything like Harriet quoted, > there's no need to send it to me, as the issue is likely fixed in > r13365. > John-Mark. Thanks, I'll keep that in mind... Just downloaded and installed r13373 (03 Jan 23:45) and had a run around the LTSB bank site and it appears the problem is indeed sorted. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Netsurf Running Out of Memory
In article <1325506714.17735.9.camel@duiker>, John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 12:36 +0000, Dave Symes wrote: > > On 31 Dec, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: > > [Snippy] > > > How interesting Brian, I was about to write up a note and post it > > > when your posting arrived... We had the very same problem with > > > LloydsTSB a few day ago, so we updated to version r13351 (27 Dec > > > 2011) but the memory problem persists. That's on SARPCs one with > > > Select 4.39 and this one with 6.20. > > > > > Anyone else had the return of this old problem? > > > > > Dave > > > > Should have mentioned, I still have the log fron a LTSB visit earlier > > today. > Please send it to me. > John-Mark. J-M, Fay's asked me to ask a question before I send the log file which was out of Her machine. Does Netsurf log any private details, like accounts numbers and passwords? Fair question on her part I guess... As I have no idea. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Netsurf Running Out of Memory
On 31 Dec, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: [Snippy] > How interesting Brian, I was about to write up a note and post it when > your posting arrived... > We had the very same problem with LloydsTSB a few day ago, so we updated > to version r13351 (27 Dec 2011) but the memory problem persists. > That's on SARPCs one with Select 4.39 and this one with 6.20. > Anyone else had the return of this old problem? > Dave Should have mentioned, I still have the log fron a LTSB visit earlier today. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Netsurf Running Out of Memory
In article , Brian wrote: > Hello > Using Netsurf r 13320 and only accessing one website today I had a > dialogue box from Netsurf saying it was running out of memory. > I went to the online page at Bank of Scotland: > https://online.bankofscotland.co.uk/personal/logon/login.jsp > It does then go to a mobile site version which works fine with Netsurf > or you can go back to the desktop site. > Immediately, a Cookie confirmation box comes up which is fine,but this > happens everytime.After you accept it, the hard drive is being > accessed continuously, then after one ot two clicks on the webpage it > reports that memory is running out. > Regards. > Brian How interesting Brian, I was about to write up a note and post it when your posting arrived... We had the very same problem with LloydsTSB a few day ago, so we updated to version r13351 (27 Dec 2011) but the memory problem persists. That's on SARPCs one with Select 4.39 and this one with 6.20. Anyone else had the return of this old problem? Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: NetSurf and LTSB
In article <521d97f31ej...@jaharrison.me.uk>, John Harrison wrote: > > I guess no one else uses NS with LTSB, as this AM (Monday) still > > unusable > I only just picked up this thread, so not sure what has been said so far. > I have always used NetSurf with LTSB, and found it OK. I haven't logged > on for a while though, since my wife normally checks the account from > her Macbook. > I just logged on to see whether there was a problem, and I obviously > haven't done so since they 'improved' it a few months ago, since it is > now pretty unhelpful. > Regards They, LTSB changed something in recent times, whereby the old URL I've been using for many years took me to a login page for mobile access. Anyhow, Geoff Baxendale had the answer, and I've now changed my login URL to the new one, and all is well. I've sent you the full URL privately. Cheers Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Bank of Scotlan/Halifax
In article <105d7b1d52.brianfer...@brferris.orpheusmail.co.uk>, Brian wrote: > Hi > Oops, originally wrote this email/post via my mobile phone and the > outcome is all gobbled??? > So will post again via computer. > Basically up until recently accessing the Halifax/Bank of Scotland was > not at all accessible via Netsurf.Then only a couple of weeks ago > since they had a revamp of the site the whole thing was totally > useable with Netsurf, which was great. > However, today have found that after logging in on the second stage > the continue button has disappeared, thus cannot progress beyond that. > A real shame. > Regards. > Brian Brian, if you hover your mouse pointer roughtly where it used to be, quite often it will turn into a pointing hand, and that's where it's hiding, if you do find it, even though it's hidden, click, and of you'll go. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: NetSurf and LTSB
In article <1195071d52.thebe...@sarno.freeserve.co.uk>, Geoffrey Baxendale wrote: [Snip] > Hi Dave, > Is it giving you the mobile site? I have just used it and that is what > it did. Previously my saved login page was for the mobile site but after > entering the password the rest was as normal. I have been away so my > version of NS is r12793. Haven't tried the latest release. > (To get to the desktop site click that link.) Thanks Geoff, that did the trick. I've just been clickin the same button I've been using on the first login page for years, now suddenly the (Illegitimates) change it for mobiles. Anyway, sorted now. Dave I really can't see why any sane person would want to use a mobile phone to do anything network related. I have a Smartphone that's got more whistles and bells than the command deck of the USS Enterprise, but after trying out all this w&b stuff when I first got it, I've given up, the tedium of waiting for web pages to display on a mobile phone is worse than waiting for paint to dry. Now I just use it for (Shock horror) phoning, texts and MMS, the rest is just a waste of my life. Ooer! went of on one there... ;-) D. -- Dave Triffid
Re: NetSurf and LTSB
On 02 Oct, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: > Anyone else here using NS to work their LTSB online banking? > Using a slighty older version and now, r12913 29th Sept, LTSB online > banking is now unusable here. > Login and Memorable info can still be done, but thereafter only a small > section of the stuff is available. > Account Overview, very strangely displayed and Mini statements, again > very strangely displayed, but nothing else is visible. > Anyone else finding this the case? > Dave > FWIW. Works perfectly okay on PC Firefox. > JavaScript again I guess... I guess no one else uses NS with LTSB, as this AM (Monday) still unusable. Dave -- Dave Triffid
NetSurf and LTSB
Anyone else here using NS to work their LTSB online banking? Using a slighty older version and now, r12913 29th Sept, LTSB online banking is now unusable here. Login and Memorable info can still be done, but thereafter only a small section of the stuff is available. Account Overview, very strangely displayed and Mini statements, again very strangely displayed, but nothing else is visible. Anyone else finding this the case? Dave FWIW. Works perfectly okay on PC Firefox. JavaScript again I guess... -- Dave Triffid
Re: visited link made visible
In article <15cf780f52@nails.abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel wrote: > lists wrote on 8 Sep: > > Well, speed is far more important to me. > i'd have to agree with that. > so on the occasional occasions when visited-link-visible is really > useful to me, i can always load up Fresco or try Dave Triffid's trick > with Firefox. > thanks for the explification, John. Jim, a fella on the Firefox Newsgroup suggested the add-on "NoSquint" 2.1.2 which I've just installed and yes among all the things it does, it does indeedy reliably set the URL and visited URL colours. Not had chance to test it proper like, as I must get back to work. Dave -- Dave Triffid
visited link made visible
In article <34eb3e0f52@nails.abbeypress.net>, Jim Nagel wrote: [Snippy] > Actually I noticed first on Netsurf and then tried XP Firefox. The > "visited link" feature is lacking on both. Tuesday's particular > search made me wish for the feature: I wanted to compare the many > various results, and it would have helped to know which ones i had > already looked at (especially after refining the search criteria). It does work in Firefox, but with all the quick updates...ATM it's a bit dodgy... But you can tweak it. Menubar - Tools - Options. "Content" Tab. Open the Fonts & Colors "Colors" button and have a play. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: setting size and position of window
In article , Jeremy Nicoll - ml netsurf wrote: > Dave Symes wrote: > > Obviously my hand is now smelly and brown as I usually get hold of the > > wrong end of the stick. ;-) > Why's the stick been up there? Ah well there are two answers, neither of which are appropriate for this list. ;-) Soreee! Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: setting size and position of window
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 02:04:12AM +0100, Jim Nagel wrote: > > can anybody suggest a trick whereby i could make a Netsurf window open > > at a certain size and position on screen, to display a local file? Isn't that what Netsurf does with... Make the NS window the size you want it, move it to the position you want it, then do... Menu > Display > Window >Set as default position. Obviously my hand is now smelly and brown as I usually get hold of the wrong end of the stick. ;-) Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: iGoogle not displaying?
In article <51b96f647crh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > In article , >David Pitt wrote: > > "make sure you have the latest version of your browser" > > indeed!! The latest mainstream browsers are Safari 5, > > Firefox 4 and IE9. > This is not really on topic, and I do not use Safari, and > only very rarely IE. > My version of Firefox is 3.6.16, to which it was updated by > the autoupdater two nights ago, so I would have thought it > perfectly correct to say that Firefox 3.x is the latest > version. I have heard of rumours of Ver 4 - but that, > presumably, is a development version only and not something > that should be quoted to the general user as 'the latest', > surely? (I also one heard a reference to a horrible new user > interface...). Rumours? of a version 4, keep up that man at the back, Beta 4 versions have been out and about for ages... Well I've had them on my machines for what seems like ages. ;-) Version 4 RC was released last weekend(ish), followed by it being uprated to the V4 official release at the beginning of the week. Yes it is a bit different in the default state, but it can easily be reconfigured back to a 3.nn like appearance. I dislike the Tabs on top, so I have them switched back in the correct place (As they were before). Menu bar is still available if you should want it, and so on. There are a few other minor UI changes... Bottom line is it's still Firefox, albeit a bit difference in appearance, but then Firefox 3 is somewhat different in appearance to early FireFox version. I still have both 3.6.16 and 4.0 installed because some addons have not yet been updated for Ff 4. And I often use them both at the same time. > And what about Opera? She is very good at interviews... ;-) > What does amaze me, looking at my web servers logs, is the > number of people still using IE5 and IE6 and Safari 3 + 4, > as well as all the countless versions of Firefox 3.x.yy As I understand it, this is mostly due to the Dumbass users, computer arrives with IE whatever installed, and that's how it stays, mostly as time passes, they don't know or care that newer versions are available, or that Firefox, Opera, Shiny thing... exist. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: r11929 not downloading properly
In article <617831b151.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter wrote: > On 9 Mar 2011 Dave Symes wrote: > > If only things were that simple... On this Select RO machine there are > > three MimeMap text files, now I wonder which one is being used? > > ...!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap*** > > ...!Boot.Choices.Hardware.Disabled.Internet.Files.MimeMap > > ...!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.Internet.Files.MimeMap > Configure > Network > MimeMap will open the right one. It would have been preferred if you had not snipped the important line. *Show Inet$MimeMappings this will identify the one being used. Thank you. D. -- Dave Triffid
r11929 not downloading properly
In article <381c18b151.zen44...@zen.co.uk>, Simon Smith wrote: > In message <51b10f8d4cbbai...@argonet.co.uk> > Brian Bailey wrote: > > The above version now downloads latest test build as file format &A91 > > not Archive/zip (ddc) file which won't open. > a91 is the custom filetype for ZIP, isn't it? > Have you updated or altered your mimemap settings recently? Tim Hill > made a new version available a few days ago. [Snip] If only things were that simple... On this Select RO machine there are three MimeMap text files, now I wonder which one is being used? ...!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap*** ...!Boot.Choices.Hardware.Disabled.Internet.Files.MimeMap ...!Boot.Choices.Users.Single.Internet.Files.MimeMap >From CLI or Ctrl F12 do: *Show Inet$MimeMappings this will identify the one being used. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: New RISC OS toolbars
In article , Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 21 Feb, Dave Symes wrote in message > <51a92eecbdd...@triffid.co.uk>: > > Erm! Sorry, could someone please explain what RISC OS toolbar? > > > > I'm using (21st Feb) R11746 and the UI looks exactly the same as last > > weeks and previously. > Er, that's kind of the point. If it looks different, I've probably got > it wrong. :-) > More helpfully, r11741 last night saw the introduction of a new > implementation of the toolbar and menu handling in the RISC OS frontend. > Apart from the fact that websites' favicons now appear in the URL > field, there's little visible difference from a user's point of view. > That's the idea. [Snip] Thanks for the info. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: New RISC OS toolbars
In article <51a9258bfbjoh...@ukgateway.net>, John Williams wrote: > In article , >Martin Bazley wrote: > > Firstly, congratulations and many thanks to Steve Fryatt fo his > > sterling work on the RISC OS toolbar implementation. While, as > > mentioned on the wiki, user-facing improvements aren't much in > > evidence, I understand the new implementation is much more > > future-proof than the old and should go some way towards ensuring a > > RISC OS port for some time to come. > Seconded! Well done, Steve! > John Erm! Sorry, could someone please explain what RISC OS toolbar? I'm using (21st Feb) R11746 and the UI looks exactly the same as last weeks and previously. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Editing hotlist entries
In article <518931bf8at...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <081b9e8751.jwo...@jwolfe.f2s.com>, >Ian Wolfe wrote: > > In message <51878a0ce3d...@triffid.co.uk> > > Dave Symes wrote: > > > I mentioned it because someone here is sight compromised and there > > > isn't enough contrast between the text and the background. > > Visual problems of course vary. Since I now have great trouble with a > > white background, the blue was an improvement. However, ideally we > > might be able to choose our own; for me, white on black is best. > The colours are now options. There's currently no Chocies GUI > to set them, but you can set them manually from the Choices file. > Add these lines for black on white: > gui_colour_bg_1:ff > gui_colour_fg_1:00 > gui_colour_fg_2:ff > or for white on black: > gui_colour_bg_1:00 > gui_colour_fg_1:ff > gui_colour_fg_2:00 > Note that if we change to a treeview rendering style like > http://www.netsurf-browser.org/temp/treeview/ then the meaning > of those Choices options may change. Thanks for that, very useful. Best wishes for the season and new year Cheers Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Editing hotlist entries
In article <5187852643t...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <51855ae3d5d...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave Symes wrote: > > I guess my question is quite trivial... The colour. > At the moment you can't change it. It was changed when I intended to > revamp the entire look of treeviews anyway, and someone said they > couldn't see the white icons on white recently. I've not got round to > changing the treeview style because I got mired in improving the > existing code first. > There's the mockup for how treeviews might look: > http://www.netsurf-browser.org/temp/treeview/ > It uses NetSurf blue livery much like directory listings for file: URLs. I mentioned it because someone here is sight compromised and there isn't enough contrast between the text and the background. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Editing hotlist entries
In article , Harriet Bazley wrote: [Snip] > Definitely still weird things happening here (rr11053) - but only when > the address is 'expanded'. Ditto previous version - I didn't notice > because I always did have it expanded, since I was trying to restore my > hotlist to more meaningful titles and hence wanted to see the actual > URLs before editing... Appears to be okay here r11053. I guess my question is quite trivial... The colour. 1) How to change it? If not changeable... 2) How to get rid of it? Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: NetSurf and LTSB
On 15 Nov, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: > I see the activation button in the LloydsTSB Memorable info entry page > has vanished again when used in NS. > For those among us who use LTSB, the link is still there but it is > invisible. > Move the mouse pointer a tiny bit above and along the green bottom > outline line towards the right hand end while watching the status bar > (Bottom of NS window) and you'll see when you've found it, click as per > usual on it, and Bob's yer... > Dave >| >| >* | > ---^---| > Green outline How exceedingly weird. When I logged in to LTSB 6:15 AM ish the button was missing, when Fay logged in at around 7:00 AM ish, the button was still missing (We are using different versions of NS BTW) I've just this minute logged in again 9:18 AM and the button is back. Dave -- Dave Triffid
NetSurf and LTSB
I see the activation button in the LloydsTSB Memorable info entry page has vanished again when used in NS. For those among us who use LTSB, the link is still there but it is invisible. Move the mouse pointer a tiny bit above and along the green bottom outline line towards the right hand end while watching the status bar (Bottom of NS window) and you'll see when you've found it, click as per usual on it, and Bob's yer... Dave | | * | ---^---| Green outline -- Dave Triffid
Re: Lloyds banking login problem
On 11 Oct, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: > In article , >Jess Hampshire wrote: > > Hi > > Has anyone else noticed a problem with the new Lloyds Internet > > Banking. > > I am unable to log in. > > The memorable information screen has no continue button. > > (It does not appear to be a javascript problem, because it works with > > noscript on firefox) > No problem here using NetSurf r10796 the [Continue] button displays and > works. > Dave FWIW. Just updated to (r10881 11 Oct) and that has a working 'Continue' button in the memorable screen. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Lloyds banking login problem
In article , Jess Hampshire wrote: > Hi > Has anyone else noticed a problem with the new Lloyds Internet > Banking. > I am unable to log in. > The memorable information screen has no continue button. > (It does not appear to be a javascript problem, because it works with > noscript on firefox) No problem here using NetSurf r10796 the [Continue] button displays and works. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: A what is
In article <9b404a5e51.a...@ntlworld.com>, Dr Alan Leighton wrote: [Snip] > What are we doing on this line? > Alan I thought I immediately send a Sorry about my boo boo earlier today. Accidentally posted to a list rather than you personally. So lets stop now and take it back to private. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: A what is
In article <515e3f34a1d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > Good Morning Alan, > I hope you are in good spirits. > I have a question, and I'm hoping you might have an answer. [Snip] Sorry about that everyone, doing a quick Private email to Alan before rushing off to work and obviously made a right CU of it. Apologies to one and all. :-/ Dave -- Dave Triffid
A what is
Good Morning Alan, I hope you are in good spirits. I have a question, and I'm hoping you might have an answer. In a road near us there's a Church, "Life and Advent Church" it has been there as long as I've lived here in Bournemouth, and I still have no idea what sort/denomination of faith it might be. I've pootled around the net a bit, but cannot seem to find anything specific to that name. Do you have any idea? Thanks Dave PS: There's a vague possibility I've asked you this same question in the past, but my medicated memory is not holding info very well. D. :-/ -- Dave Triffid
Re: LloydsTSB
In article <6abc0a5551.thebe...@sarno.freeserve.co.uk>, Geoffrey Baxendale wrote: > In message <6069805451.thebe...@sarno.freeserve.co.uk> > Geoffrey Baxendale wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > LloydsTSB have "improved " their site and I am now having difficulty > > logging in. It took three goes the other day but this morning I > > can't get in at all. Keeps coming up with a "technical error". Anybody > > else having trouble or is it just me? > > > > TTFN > Looks as if no one else is using TSB with Netsurf. :-( We do here. > Update; Yesterday's problems were at their end. :-) Indeedy, site works were ongoing, so there wasn't much point in replying... > I tried to log on today and got as far as entering my "memorable > information" but their was no "continue" button. Had a look at the > source but I don't understand CSS so couldn't see what was going on. It > worked OK on Windows/Firefox (surprise!) but the faster payment thing > didn't work. Phoned their help line to be told "Had problems yesterday > and faster payment is down today". Weren't too interested in helping > once I mentioned RiscOS/Netsurf, but the girl suggested updating the > browser. I was a couple of weeks behind so tried that, and blow me the > "continue" button appeared and everthing worked. :-) > Lets hope it stays that way. > And thanks to all you guys for your continuing updates. > TTFN It all seems to be okay today. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Strange graphic doodad
In article <515307cdadbrian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan wrote: > In article <2879065351.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter > wrote: > [Snip] > > Why am I getting "Not found" for all of these links? > Presumably having fixed the problem Dave has removed the files. Indeedy, didn't seem much point in leaving 'em up after the CU was illuminated for me. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Strange graphic doodad
In article <2879065351.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter wrote: [Snippy] > Why am I getting "Not found" for all of these links? Well Richard, when I got back from a job, both Michael Drake and John Williams has given me the lightbulb moment, so there didn't seem any point in leaving the stuff up, so I posted my thanks to them both, and then removed the files. There wasn't much to see... ;-) But if you are really really interested, I could post you the archive, that's the only place now where the CU Jpeg/Gif is. :-/ Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Strange graphic doodad
In article <5153000223joh...@ukgateway.net>, John Williams wrote: > In article <5152ff4ac7d...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave Symes wrote: > > Any thoughts why NS is not displaying this graphic while it display the > > others? > It's a JPEG but called 'newn.gif'. Could this be the problem? > John Indeedy a CU on my part when I modified the original and exported it from Paint. Thanks for the prompt. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Strange graphic doodad
In article <5153009662t...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <5152ff4ac7d...@triffid.co.uk>, >Dave Symes wrote: > > http://www.triffid.co.uk/dstuff/index.htm > > To the left of the Captain and Admiral the word "News" present. > > This is in fact a small graphic, which in other browsers, like Oregano, > > Fresco and on a PC FireFox displays correctly. > The file's address is http://www.triffid.co.uk/dstuff/newn.gif > It's a JPEG but the server is telling us it's a GIF because the file has > a .gif extension. So NetSurf is giving the JPEG data to its GIF > handler, which fails to decode it and the alternate text is shown > instead. Thanks, You are so right. The original was a gif and I shoved it in Paint to modify it and obviously made a CU when I exported it. Silly me, but not the first time that's been done... Cheers Dave -- Dave Triffid
Strange graphic doodad
Need some advice please as I can't fathom it. Using Netsurf r10721 (29 Aug 2010). If you click this URL a snippet of Web page will display. http://www.triffid.co.uk/dstuff/index.htm To the left of the Captain and Admiral the word "News" present. This is in fact a small graphic, which in other browsers, like Oregano, Fresco and on a PC FireFox displays correctly. Download the snippet and display it locally in Netsurf, the graphic will display. http://www.triffid.co.uk/dstuff/bitof.zip Any thoughts why NS is not displaying this graphic while it display the others? Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Shortcut to Save Location as ANT URL?
In article <5e32b14251...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>, wrote: > >>> Why not just Shift-drag from the URL field? > >> It is a very useful facility - pity it only works on RISC OS 5. > > So much misinformation in this thread. > > It does work on RO 6.20 and previous Select versions. > Ok - I have now got shift-drag to work on 6.10 - this will save file > with type URL. > What does not work on 6.10 is drag without shift. On the Iyonix this > saves a file with type Text. > John Try Ctrl - Drag. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Shortcut to Save Location as ANT URL?
In article <4b9fa74251...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>, wrote: [Snippy] > On Adjust 4.42 (A9) and Select 6.10 (Risc PC) I cannot drag the URL. > What happens is that the URL is highlighted and there is no Save box. > John As I said in my previous posting it does work with RO 6.20. Try pressing the Shift key and holding it down, then Click and hold over the *http* bit of the URL in the bar, a blank icon will appear, still holding Shift, drag it to where-ever... I do this a lot when I want to get a URL from the bar into a document I'm writing. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Shortcut to Save Location as ANT URL?
In article <0672ac4251...@rickman.argonet.co.uk>, wrote: [Snippy] > The icon does not give any feed back and cannot be dragged. (Also true > on 5.16) Bwa! I want my mummy. ;-) To recap... Try pressing the Shift key and holding it down, then Click and hold over the *http* bit of the URL in the bar, a blank icon will appear, still holding Shift, drag it to where-ever... Dave ;-) PS: It doesn't have to be on the http bit only... The point is don't grab the left hand end icon, grab the textural bit. D. -- Dave Triffid
Re: Shortcut to Save Location as ANT URL?
In article , wrote: >John Williams wrote: > > Why not just Shift-drag from the URL field? > > Or is that also too mouse-based? > It is a very useful facility - pity it only works on RISC OS 5. > John So much misinformation in this thread. It does work on RO 6.20 and previous Select versions. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Easy Font Pro says Netsurf attempting to change Font$Path
In article <24c61c3f51.roger...@rogerarm.freeuk.com>, Roger Darlington wrote: > I am new to Easy Font Pro, so it may just be a setting in that that I > need to alter. > I ave EFP run at boot up. > Now whenever I run Netsurf, Easy Font Pro issues an error to the > effect that it has detected that Netsurf wants to change the > Font$path, and do I want to let it. > Whichever way I answer, the next time I run Netsurf, I get asked the > same question. Anyone know where and what I should change somewhere? > I only ask here because it seems to be a specific to Netsurf. OvPro > doesn't do this when run. Roger, I'm sure there's an Icon bar menu option something to do with this... "Remove Folder" where you enter the path to netsurf to catch the error or some such. Sorry I don't have the EFP manual to hand, and for reasons stated in the private email recently, Fog prevents me remembering the detail. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Downloading zip files (from mw-software)
In article <513af38539t...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <1279823129.22137.14.ca...@duiker>, >John-Mark Bell wrote: > > *Filer_OpenDir .WWW.NetSurf > Or use OpenScrap, which is inside the NetSurf application directory. I have an obey file on my Pinboard containing the following line: Copy .WWW.NetSurf.Log .NSLog ~C F~V Which, when double clicked takes a copy of the NS logfile, Saves it in my Temp directory of the day under the name NSLog. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: NetSurf and Printing
In article , george wrote: > In message <51371061e7d...@triffid.co.uk> > Dave Symes wrote: [Snip] > > > > Excellent news Steve. > > Tried it on a couple of web pages, so far no crash out. > > > > Thanks, and well done that man. > > > > Dave > > > Tried printing out a couple of pages using r10640 under RO5.16: failed > each time with error message 'An error occurred when printing: redraw > error', with option to click Continue. The good news: the error didn't > take NetSurf down, i.e., Continue worked. > George Thought it would have been obvious from the header of my posting, after the recent RO 5.nn posting, thought I'd better mention. SARPC running RO 6.20 NetSurf still printed okay. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: NetSurf and Printing
In article , Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 30 Apr, Steve Fryatt wrote in message > : > > On 30 Apr, Dave Symes wrote in message > > <511035e204d...@triffid.co.uk>: > > > > > In article , > > >Steve Fryatt wrote: > > > > > > > I can certainly reproduce it here; is anyone filing a bug report? > > > > > > I've just tried NS of 30 April 2010 r10528 with Printers 1.64a and no > > > change. NS prints then errors out. > > > > Indeed. The problem is still there. > If anyone is still following this problem (a crash after printing on > RO6), there's a chance that r10640 might resolve it. Excellent news Steve. Tried it on a couple of web pages, so far no crash out. Thanks, and well done that man. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Netsurf failure on a BBC site
In article <5133a3dc67rh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: [Snippy] > What, for example, is the "Group" pull down menu for? Network orgies. ;-) Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: test builds after 2.5
In article <5119729ccbrh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > In article > <20100518172458.4024b...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, >Rob Kendrick wrote: > > Where did the developers say this? I don't remember any > > of us every saying this. Just that it was likely if > > somebody didn't come in and help with the RISC OS front > > end. > > Can people who keep saying this please stop saying it > > until we say it. > I have lost count of the number of times that Rob has had to > make this point, in various different places. > It would be nice to think that people actually *read* these > postings. > :-) Probably part of the same syndome that causes people to not see the words written, but some invisible ones that present among the lines one has actually written. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: Amusing logic
**My apologies to one and all.** I have no idea how I did that (Though I was working on/between 3 computers at the time). It was intended as a private email posting as you may have gathered from the first paragraph. Soreee! Dave -- Dave Triffid
Amusing logic
Hi Alan, The below pasted in was sent to me over the weekend, and while it is not hahahahah, is is amusing logic. Dave The following is a bonus question given on a University of Arizona chemistry mid-term, and an actual answer turned in by a student. The answer by one student was so 'profound' that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well: Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)? Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following: First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving, which is unlikely. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added. This gives two possibilities: 1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose. 2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, so then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over. So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,' and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinctleaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting 'Oh my God.' -- Dave Triffid
NetSurf and Printing
Wanna laugh folks. I've been very busy, and someone reminded me about some work stuff that needed ordering before the end of the day and week, so a quick online with NetSurf (This RPC was the only computer running at the time) Went through the ordering process, filled the order, etc etc, entered card details, then when the final review invoice was displayed, I clicked to print it, then I clicked the "Order Submit" button. I'd forgotten Recent versions of NetSurf have a printing bug, the invoice printed very nicely, thank you, unfortunately NetSurf crashed and died before transmitting the final page of the order. I know it so 20th Century and retro, but I had to finish the order using a telephone. Well really... This is not intended as a pejorative against NetSurf, just an amusing tale upon which to end the week. ;-) Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: NetSurf and Printing
In article , Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 30 Apr, Brian Jordan wrote in message > <51102673eebrian.jord...@btinternet.com>: > > In article <9610261051.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young > > wrote: > > > > > Yes, correct; Iyonix 5.16. What about the versions of Printers and > > > about the printer drivers? > > > > Printers 1.91a Using UniPrint to connect with my Windows side, so > > effectively printing to file. > Printers 1.91a and/or RISC OS 6, plus printing to a non-PS driver, > AFAICT (RO4.02 with Printers 1.64a doesn't exhibit the problem, which is > a shame as that's easier for me to test on). > I can certainly reproduce it here; is anyone filing a bug report? I've just tried NS of 30 April 2010 r10528 with Printers 1.64a and no change. NS prints then errors out. Not filing a bug report, tried a few times some while ago with other matters, all failures... Gave up. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: NetSurf and Printing
In article <5110255c73brian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan wrote: > In article <02fc231051.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young > wrote: > > On 30 Apr 2010 Dave Symes wrote: > > > Has anyone else had problems printing from the recent releases of > > > NetSurf, up to and including todays 30 April r10528? > [Snip details] > > Just printed a simple page from r10528 without problems. Printers 1.74 > > with the new PS3 driver, network-connected via RemotePrinterFS to a > > Xerox Phaser 6120, FWIW. Haven't tried anything more complex. > Whereas I am seeing the same as DS. Interestingly (maybe?) You have RISC > OS 5.16, presumably on an Iyonx, DS and I have RISC OS 6.20 [1]. > Coincidence? > [1] OS versions versions extracted from email headers so unless your > systems are spoofing I guess this is correct. Okay now I have someone else... some more detail. SARPC. Select RO 6.20 Printers 1.91a Using the RO HPLJ PDF the same one I've been using for years, the same one that works with the Jan NetSurf... Doesn't matter if the web page is very small/simple or larger, all recent versions of NS crash out after printing. Dave -- Dave Triffid
NetSurf and Printing
Has anyone else had problems printing from the recent releases of NetSurf, up to and including todays 30 April r10528? It will print the page, but then Errors out and dies, presenting the usual Log file (I still have stored). This happens with the past number of versions, including the 2.5 release. The 9 Jan r9799 version which I've retained to fall back on, prints the same pages perfectly okay. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: RISC OS autobuilder re-enabled
On 18 Apr, d...@triffid.co.uk wrote: > In article <510a0e4a4dt...@netsurf-browser.org>, >Michael Drake wrote: > > In article <510a0b9091sjcl...@ormail.co.uk>, > >Steve Clark wrote: > > > I have the same problem. I've put in an bug report. > > Thanks, I see in the screenshot that the URL starts with "file:/", > > please try changing it to "file:///". Does that fix it? > > See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_URI_scheme for more info on the > > form of file: URLs. > > Best regards, > That does indeedy work. > Thanks > Dave The article you point at, aside for a moment, it does beg a question. As far back as I can recall through to the present time, all my RO browsers, Fresco, WebsterXL, Oregano, and Oregano 2 along with NetSurf up to and including r9799 are linked to the same start page by a single forward slash "file:/etc..." in the configs, and it worked. Just for my illumination... When did this all change? Dave Guess I'll have to redo all the configs to conform. -- Dave Triffid
Re: RISC OS autobuilder re-enabled
In article <510a0e4a4dt...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <510a0b9091sjcl...@ormail.co.uk>, >Steve Clark wrote: > > I have the same problem. I've put in an bug report. > Thanks, I see in the screenshot that the URL starts with "file:/", please > try changing it to "file:///". Does that fix it? > See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_URI_scheme for more info on the > form of file: URLs. > Best regards, That does indeedy work. Thanks Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: RISC OS autobuilder re-enabled
In article <5109526ca3t...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > Please test the latest build available from > http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/riscos/testbuilds > The major change is a rewritten and more flexible cache system. It > enables us to make the most of the improvements brought about by libcss, > as well as reducing unnecessary fetches. > Please report any issues you find. > I'd like to hear from users of NetSurf and WebJames on the same machine. > The old deadlocking issue should be fixed, so please let us know if > things are now working as they should. > Best regards, I'm now getting a small problem that I didn't get with previous versions, the last good one being r9799 9th Jan 2010. Now with the latest versions (r10422 17 April 2010) and (r10431 18 April 2010) my default html start page opens as a text file in the browser when I click on the icon bar icon, not as the Html file that it is. Double click the file itself and it opens okay. Reverting to r9799 and it again displays okay. I have no idea why, what, how. Dave -- Dave Triffid
Re: cut&paste oddity
In article , Jim Nagel wrote: > Dave Symes wrote on 2 Apr: > > In Publisher, select the bit of text that's the URL. Menu-File-Save > > selected text (Ctrl-F3) As Text without styles etc Drag the Save Icon > > to the NetSurf URL bar. Robert is your ... > > Similar with Ovation Pro. > > Menu-File-Save Selection as text, drag to URL bar. > thanks for the workaround. that does work. quite a few more clicks > and stuff than Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V would be. Not many Jim. Only 1 more with Publisher and same number with OvPro. Clipboard: Hilight text in Publisher. = Ctrl-C Click in NetSurf URL Bar. = Ctrl-U = Ctrl-V Return = Publisher Workaround: Click in NetSurf URL bar. = Ctrl-U = In Publisher, Hilight text = Ctrl-F3 Click to Untick with Styles. (Extra action) Drag n drop to URL bar Return. = OvPro Workaround: Click in NetSurf URL bar. = Ctrl-U = In OvPro, Hilight text = Menu-File-Save selection or Click button bar icon. Drag n drop to URL bar Return. = > would still like to know why Ctrl-V fails to work in the Netsurf URL > bar, whereas it works in lots of other places and apps INCLUDING the > Google search box within the Netsurf page. > how can we investigate what bytes are actually on the clipboard when > we have copied (Ctrl-C) something onto it? Indeedy it would be interesting to see... Dave -- Dave Triffid
