[newbie] what a diff a day makes
HI to all, Yesterday , I was wanting to ununstall this new wierd OS, but hey this morning I found the start menu way at the bottom of my screen. WoW, I now seem to have prg's, and etc available to me. I still using KPPP , was not able to find a modem (if said couldn't find), I am using a USB port , with USB modem attached. I do not want to mess with kernal's or any type of compiling yet, so if any one knows how to get the USB port recognized , I would appreciate it. THis 5.3 , right off the CD, from LM. Thanks, Will
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RE: [newbie] what a diff a day makes
Pliler [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said: I am using a USB port , with USB modem attached. Not supported... Richard
RE: [newbie] what a diff a day makes
Hi, I'm affraid Mandrake doesn't have any USB support 'right out of the box'. In fact, Linux doesn't have USB support at all for the moment unless you compile your own kernel (at least version 2.2.7 (stable) or 2.3.3 (development). Keep in mind that USB support in Linux is still very BETA and that the only OS supporting USB for the moment is Win98. If I were you, given the actual prices, I'd rush out and buy an affordable generic modem instead of taking the risc of tampering your system by using very early beta support in the newer kernels. USB will be supported under Linux and work is advancing rapidly. Patrick Putteman, System Engineer Three-i T. +32 2 332 35 32 - F. +32 4 332 34 31 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.three-i.com -Original Message- From: Pliler's Remote Unit Mail [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] what a diff a day makes HI to all, Yesterday , I was wanting to ununstall this new wierd OS, but hey this morning I found the start menu way at the bottom of my screen. WoW, I now seem to have prg's, and etc available to me. I still using KPPP , was not able to find a modem (if said couldn't find), I am using a USB port , with USB modem attached. I do not want to mess with kernal's or any type of compiling yet, so if any one knows how to get the USB port recognized , I would appreciate it. THis 5.3 , right off the CD, from LM. Thanks, Will
RE: [newbie] kernel update configure
On Mon, 17 May 1999, James J. Capone wrote: format /mbr will restore the MBR not sure about the FDISK one though. I just use the format mbr here at work when needed. I've never used the format /mbr, but I can vouch for fdisk /mbr. :)
Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade :)
I will have to check and let you know. I had to use the bzImage because the zImage was too big. That is funny on a 2.1 gig drive the zImage was to big. Ohh... I will let you know. James - Original Message - From: Dan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 2:36 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade :) James Capone wrote: the soun drivers to work. With 2.0.36 they worked fine, now when I load the kernel it gives me a bunch of errors about the sound. Like no such file or directory all on the sound. Every thing else works fine. I had to make the Did you build sound as a module, or compile it into the kernel? Have you looked at /etc/conf.modules? I'm just guessing here, but if you built it as part of the kernel, and 2.0.36 had it as modules (which it did in the kernel that ships with Mandrake 5.3), you're going to have old scripts which still want the modules. Do the drivers work at all in spite of the errors? Since you needed to make bzImage instead of zImage, I suspect that (like me) you didn't use modules very much, and this may be contributing to your problem. -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Re: [newbie] kernel update configure
On Mon, 17 May 1999, Pliler's Remote Unit Mail wrote: James, Why can't I just delete this file that was created by the LILO install, I assume its a hidden file on my C drive? Any thing to do with format, makes me believe it wipes the MBR clean. Because LILO is *ON* your MBR, so it must be removed from there. It isn't part of the directory structure of files stored on your harddrive. I'm not familiar with format /mbr, as perhaps it's from another DOS version -- I've used fdisk /mbr in similiar situations as yours and don't forsee a problem.
Re: [newbie] what a diff a day makes
HI Pat, Sounds like good advice , to me. BTW, I just installed PQ Boot magic, over riding the MBR, and LiLO. I did this purposely as I am more familiar with it rather than lilo. Now I can get it to boot the LInux for me. Win98 as default is fine. Since I overwrote the MBR, I am assuming the linus ext2 part is not bootAble? Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks, Will - Original Message - From: Putteman Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 9:39 AM Subject: RE: [newbie] what a diff a day makes Hi, I'm affraid Mandrake doesn't have any USB support 'right out of the box'. In fact, Linux doesn't have USB support at all for the moment unless you compile your own kernel (at least version 2.2.7 (stable) or 2.3.3 (development). Keep in mind that USB support in Linux is still very BETA and that the only OS supporting USB for the moment is Win98. If I were you, given the actual prices, I'd rush out and buy an affordable generic modem instead of taking the risc of tampering your system by using very early beta support in the newer kernels. USB will be supported under Linux and work is advancing rapidly. Patrick Putteman, System Engineer Three-i T. +32 2 332 35 32 - F. +32 4 332 34 31 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.three-i.com -Original Message- From: Pliler's Remote Unit Mail [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] what a diff a day makes HI to all, Yesterday , I was wanting to ununstall this new wierd OS, but hey this morning I found the start menu way at the bottom of my screen. WoW, I now seem to have prg's, and etc available to me. I still using KPPP , was not able to find a modem (if said couldn't find), I am using a USB port , with USB modem attached. I do not want to mess with kernal's or any type of compiling yet, so if any one knows how to get the USB port recognized , I would appreciate it. THis 5.3 , right off the CD, from LM. Thanks, Will
Re: [newbie] Whining and Griping. (was pppd dies unexpectedly)
I agree...it sounds pretty bad. Even on my worst days it was never that bad for me. When you installed Mandrake, did you get any error messages? How about at boot time? Might want to look at /var/messages. I used to do it. There is nothing there. Pppd is terminated on signal 15. I have no idea what that is. 1. I dial my ISP -- pppd dies unexpectedly (it complains that the server didn't pass on the required configuration, but it is not sure, it says. 2. I dial again immediately -- it connects without problem. 3. I installed RH 6.0 on another partition. It connects without any problems. The only trouble with it: you cannot install Star Office 5.0 on it, and RealPlayer doesn't seem to work either. Bela Actually...that happens to me too but it used to happen in Windows too, so I never thought it to be a Linux problem. And connection stability is still better than it was when I was using windows. The point is, you _do_ get connected. So that means it works. The other guy's problem was he could not get connected at all... As for Star Office and Real Player, sorry, I don't have them installed so I cannot help you there. -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster --
Re: [newbie] what a diff a day makes
Yeah, I would say that within a month or two there will be something more substantial for USB. Kernels are coming out once a week. This will give you time to poke around and figure out how everything else works. Rip "A mind is a terrible thing." From: Putteman Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Hi, I'm affraid Mandrake doesn't have any USB support 'right out of the box'. In fact, Linux doesn't have USB support at all for the moment unless you compile your own kernel (at least version 2.2.7 (stable) or 2.3.3 (development). Keep in mind that USB support in Linux is still very BETA and that the only OS supporting USB for the moment is Win98. If I were you, given the actual prices, I'd rush out and buy an affordable generic modem instead of taking the risc of tampering your system by using very early beta support in the newer kernels. USB will be supported under Linux and work is advancing rapidly. Patrick Putteman, System Engineer Three-i T. +32 2 332 35 32 - F. +32 4 332 34 31 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.three-i.com -Original Message- From: Pliler's Remote Unit Mail [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] what a diff a day makes HI to all, Yesterday , I was wanting to ununstall this new wierd OS, but hey this morning I found the start menu way at the bottom of my screen. WoW, I now seem to have prg's, and etc available to me. I still using KPPP , was not able to find a modem (if said couldn't find), I am using a USB port , with USB modem attached. I do not want to mess with kernal's or any type of compiling yet, so if any one knows how to get the USB port recognized , I would appreciate it. THis 5.3 , right off the CD, from LM. Thanks, Will
Re: [newbie] what a diff a day makes
Putteman Patrick wrote: Hi, I'm affraid Mandrake doesn't have any USB support 'right out of the box'. In fact, Linux doesn't have USB support at all for the moment unless you compile your own kernel (at least version 2.2.7 (stable) or 2.3.3 (development). Yes, I'm afraid it's quite true. I think we do have support for USB keyboard and mice though... Keep in mind that USB support in Linux is still very BETA and that the only OS supporting USB for the moment is Win98. Not true. MacOS (dunno which is the latest) supports it as well. The iMacs can do USB zip. If I were you, given the actual prices, I'd rush out and buy an affordable generic modem instead of taking the risc of tampering your system by using very early beta support in the newer kernels. USB will be supported under Linux and work is advancing rapidly. General agreement here. It will really save you a lot of hassle (not to mention heartache and hair) if you stick with the _supported_ hardware. For Mandrake, this list is on: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/fhard.html Note: serial modem at the bottom. For best results, use an external serial one. I am _not_ encouraging the non-use and support of modern (like USB) stuff. I would like to use them myself, but I'd rather get something I can use _now_ and I'm not about to downgrade to Windows... -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster -- Discussions heartily welcomed; Flames generally ignored. --
Re: [newbie] Kernel Upgrade :)
James Capone wrote: I will have to check and let you know. I had to use the bzImage because the zImage was too big. That is funny on a 2.1 gig drive the zImage was to big. Same reason I needed to use bzImage--I don't know where the size limit comes in, or why. However, the size of the kernel leads me to believe that you didn't use modules much (and I don't know enough yet to know whether that's a good or a bad thing). -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
[newbie] Anyone used this Main Board??
Hi all, Had my Linux Mandrake up and running on my Pii but for family reasons need to switch to a box that is using what appears to be a TXProII Motherboard. This has built in Video Card SiS 5597/5598 (according to Windows) and sound card. I dont think that the sound card will be a problem tho. Its running a CyrixMII-300 CPU . I now can not get X happening.was before. I say "appears to be" above as I do not have any documentation re this computeronly what I can ascertain from the box itself.(Even got down with a light to look inside!) Any clues or thoughts would be appreciated. I have looked thru the Hardware How Tos.and may have missed something. Thanks in advance Eric -- Eric and Amy Drabwell Eric: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Amy: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~edrab School: http://www.brookvaleps.nsw.edu.au
RE: [newbie] Re: Linux-Mandrake User Guide
M. Bull[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] said:
Here it is from the "Install" file on the Mandrake 5.3 CD:
"your main Linux partition, which will need to be loaded on
" / " ("Mount point : / "). This will be the root directory
(" root directory "). The size of this partition will need
to be at least 300 Mb. More experienced users may load the
/usr and /home directories on supplementary partitions."
What's wrong with that? You can still break it up so it isn't
just in one large partition, it's just saying that most users
will just put linux into one drive with a / mount point, and
that should be 300 megs -- with the addition that you can put
/usr and /home on supplementary partitions. /usr is the bulk
of the size of the install
RedHat's documentation on the same CD recommends 50 to 100MB
for /. You'll get "disk full" messages if you set up a small
root.
It makes sense that the Mandrake instructions should supercede any
conflicting Red Hat instructions.
Those Red Hat 5.2 instructions didn't allow for all the KDE files being
installed into /opt/kde.
Mandrake 5.3 and Red Hat 6.0 both work fine with a single 465 MB "/"
partition. (I have 500MB extra for Linux, using 32MB for swap).
Just don't install "everything"...
Richard
Re: [newbie] Anyone used this Main Board??
To find info on your motherboard look for screen printed ID numbers on the board. It may say430 TX ver. 2.3 or some other such string of characters. Write this down, then look at the chips (black and square) on the motherboard. One of them should have the SiS 55xx identifier. Write down exactly what you have, then look at the other chips (the two largest ones besides the CPU). Write down the largest numbers from these two. Then you can go to www.motherboards.org or it may be www.motherboard.org and you will have to look around a bit, but this is a good resource to learn about motherboards. He links to all motherbrd mfgr. sites. I think he has a table of info like the code printed on the board you can use to identify the mfgr. Once you know who made it you can go to their site and get the instruction/spec manual or update the BIOS or whatever. The other thing to know is that there is a separate module for SiS 55xx video you must load when installing your OS (even Windows has this problem). Can someone help me out with the name? You might look at some of the Linux sites or newsgroups and search on the video chipset number once you get that. I have read about ten msgs on alt.os.linux.mandrake and comp.os.linux.setup . They did't apply to me so I skipped over them. It did register with me though cause I read so much and remember a lot of it. If you need more help write back and I'll help with the research end of it once you get those numbers. Rip "A mind is a terrible thing." Eric Drabwell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi all, Had my Linux Mandrake up and running on my Pii but for family reasons need to switch to a box that is using what appears to be a TXProII Motherboard. This has built in Video Card SiS 5597/5598 (according to Windows) and sound card. I dont think that the sound card will be a problem tho. Its running a CyrixMII-300 CPU . I now can not get X happening.was before. I say "appears to be" above as I do not have any documentation re this computeronly what I can ascertain from the box itself.(Even got down with a light to look inside!) Any clues or thoughts would be appreciated. I have looked thru the Hardware How Tos.and may have missed something. Thanks in advance Eric and Amy Drabwell Eric: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Amy: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Whining and Griping. (was pppd dies unexpectedly)
Mine is a GPL version. Bela On Tue, 18 May 1999, you wrote: Bela Lantos wrote: 3. I installed RH 6.0 on another partition. It connects without any problems. The only trouble with it: you cannot install Star Office 5.0 on it, and RealPlayer doesn't seem to work either. If you've got the retail version of RedHat 6.0, StarOffice is on the Apps CD and works extremely well. I've been happy with it. -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Whining and Griping. (was pppd dies unexpectedly)
Well, apart from doubling the phone bill it works. I never had this problem in Win95 though. Bela On Wed, 19 May 1999, you wrote: I agree...it sounds pretty bad. Even on my worst days it was never that bad for me. When you installed Mandrake, did you get any error messages? How about at boot time? Might want to look at /var/messages. I used to do it. There is nothing there. Pppd is terminated on signal 15. I have no idea what that is. 1. I dial my ISP -- pppd dies unexpectedly (it complains that the server didn't pass on the required configuration, but it is not sure, it says. 2. I dial again immediately -- it connects without problem. 3. I installed RH 6.0 on another partition. It connects without any problems. The only trouble with it: you cannot install Star Office 5.0 on it, and RealPlayer doesn't seem to work either. Bela Actually...that happens to me too but it used to happen in Windows too, so I never thought it to be a Linux problem. And connection stability is still better than it was when I was using windows. The point is, you _do_ get connected. So that means it works. The other guy's problem was he could not get connected at all... As for Star Office and Real Player, sorry, I don't have them installed so I cannot help you there. -- -- Kuraiken - Apprentice Codecaster --
[newbie] Version 6
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Re: [newbie] Pppd dies unexpectedly
I also get this message from kppp, but I get it as root. When I try a second time it connects without problems. this was since I upgraded to kernel 2.2.5. On dom, 16 may 1999, you wrote: Many many thanks. I will try. And I hate Windows, but I have to do my work. Any idea about the pppd unexpectedly dying in user? It works fine in root. Bela Lyndon Lininger Sr. wrote: Your problem in redhat 6.0 is easy to fix. After you boot up. In the kde environment use the file manager and go to kppp. I believe it is in /bin/kppp. Right click on it and choose properties. When that window pops up goto permissions and set the suid bit. Close it down and reboot. It will work fine from then on. Hope this helps. I will never go back to windows. Lyndon Lininger Sr.
Re: [newbie] Kernel.
I upgraded from 2.2.3 to 2.2.5 without upgrading initscript and modutils, but you need to upgrade these packages when upgrading from 2.0x. Guillermo On lun, 17 may 1999, you wrote: I had to start a new thread sorry. I went the Mandrake website, They reference to the 2.2.3 kernel upgrade not the 2.2.9 kernel. Any which way. The file I DL for the kernel is kernel-2.2.9.tar.gz I did not DL and .i386.rpm or kernel-headers-2.2.x-x.i386.rpm does this matter. If I Downloaded the .tar.gz file does not that contain it all. Please let me know. Also It says to upgrade initscripts-3.91-3 and modutils-2.1.121-4 is that also really needed. Has anyone upgraded to the 2.2.3 or higher without upgrading the modutils or the initscripts files. Thanks, James
Re: [newbie] Anyone used this Main Board??
Rip Many thanks, will check this out this evening or afternoon hopefully Eric Ripcrd6 wrote: To find info on your motherboard look for screen printed ID numbers on the board. It may say430 TX ver. 2.3 or some other such string of characters. Write this down, then look at the chips (black and square) on the motherboard. One of them should have the SiS 55xx identifier. Write down exactly what you have, then look at the other chips (the two largest ones besides the CPU). Write down the largest numbers from these two. Then you can go to www.motherboards.org or it may be www.motherboard.org and you will have to look around a bit, but this is a good resource to learn about motherboards. He links to all motherbrd mfgr. sites. I think he has a table of info like the code printed on the board you can use to identify the mfgr. Once you know who made it you can go to their site and get the instruction/spec manual or update the BIOS or whatever. The other thing to know is that there is a separate module for SiS 55xx video you must load when installing your OS (even Windows has this problem). Can someone help me out with the name? You might look at some of the Linux sites or newsgroups and search on the video chipset number once you get that. I have read about ten msgs on alt.os.linux.mandrake and comp.os.linux.setup . They did't apply to me so I skipped over them. It did register with me though cause I read so much and remember a lot of it. If you need more help write back and I'll help with the research end of it once you get those numbers. Rip "A mind is a terrible thing." -- Eric and Amy Drabwell Eric: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Amy: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~edrab School: http://www.brookvaleps.nsw.edu.au
