Re: [newbie] can someone tell me?
Jeanette Russo wrote: I was thinking this was a linux list, sorry Jeanette - Original Message - From: Hugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 8:28 PM Subject: [newbie] can someone tell me? Hi all, I was wondering if we had a list for linux users? I had problems but now she's a linux box :) I don't want to bother the normal list with linux questions... Thanks guys Hugh Sorry that was ment for PGP users list
Re: [newbie] Did the Lothar project get onto Mandrake's 6.0?
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, John Aldrich wrote: What's the Lothar project http://www.linux-mandrake.com/lothar LLaP bero
[newbie] generic.spec for easier RPM creation
Since a couple of people asked for it, I've put up a generic spec file for autoconfed applications on ftp://ftp.mandrakesoft.com/pub/bero/generic.spec For most stuff, filling in the empty fields should be enough to create a working RPM. LLaP bero
Re: [newbie] discovery of the boot problem--FINALLY!!!
Paul Benjamin wrote: Thanks for the hint. I don't have a turbo switch but by setting the PIO mode for the IDE channels in the BIOS setup screen I was able to boot. Now I am experimenting on how high I can set the PIO mode. So far I am up to PIO mode 3 no DMA for the hard drives PIO 0 no DMA for the CD-ROM. A case of optimization causing problems. I have a super seven motherboard based upon the VIA MVP3 chip set. PBen well, my AMI bios is ancient (1994) and doesn't support half this stuff. Check the page (man hdparm) for all the gory details.:-)
[newbie] Need a strong convincing argument
Hi All, Sorry my mail is a little long. Please be advised of that. I have got a friend whom is trying to move away from the Windows environment, but is having a lot of concerns on whether he'll succeed or not with Linux. He believes that because Linux is being developed by hackers throughout the world and it does not have a certified authentication, it will not last for longer. I've tried my best to give him an overall picture of Linux plus the many things he can with it, but don't think I was convincing enough. I even showed him some of my computational work, and the performance of Linux, and many technical details that Linux has over Windows. But because the software that I run has a Windows counterpart which does the job for him he was skeptical, although I could sense how impressed he was with Linux, Kde, Gnome , AfterStep and other things. He has asked me this simple question: Suppose that he gets some work done at work under Excel, Word or Corel and he wants to continue the same work at home where he has a Linux machine. What chances has he got in porting is work from the Dos environment to Linux. My answer to that was that he could either install Staroffice or WordPerfect in his home machine so that he could port the job. But that was all said in theory, since I do not have either of the two tools in my machine to prove a point, he did not seem very convinced. Can anybody give me more reasons to convince him. Anyway I'll install Soffice or WP to convince him. Thanks in advance for any info. Regards Bernardo
[newbie] disk druid
I am not the first to ask the question, but hope to be the first to get an answer... Where can I find disk druid? I want to use it to partition a second hard disk in my machine which has mandrake Linux already installed. fdisk is in the /sbin directory, but where do I find disk druid? Rgds Martin
RE: [newbie] Mandrake and DSL
Hi Aaron, It is not set up as a bridge, I heard from someone else the US West used to do that. Under windows the only settings are obtain IP address automatically and use DHCP for wins resolution. On the bridge they have you set. (off the top of my head and probably not exact) set ppp wan0-0 ipcp 0.0.0.0 set ppp wan0-0 dns 0.0.0.0 set ppp wan0-0 login login name set ppp wan0-0 login password my password set nat enabled set server restart enabled set dhcp server enabled I think that is it. I messed around with it most of last night and made no progress. I am condsidering going back to a more mature distribution with good documentation. Any thoughts? Thanks for your help. Rich -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron LynchSent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 10:19 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake and DSL well, when I was on US West, the cisco 675 was a bridge, not a router, so it has no IP of it's own. you need to set the computer to DHCP. I dunno how to do that in Linux except at install, but I'm 99% sure if you are assigning a IP to a us west dsl bridge it's wrong. How is your win box setup? Betcha 100 bucks obtain IP address from server is checked -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rich McCabeSent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 1:19 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake and DSL Aaron do you mean all I need to do is change the eth0 interface to a DHCP protocol ? Or is there more to setting up DHCP than that. The information I have listed below regarding the Cisco is right out of the USWest book and does get the Router logged in. I just need to make the Linux box talk to the router. Thanks for the response. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Aaron LynchSent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 2:10 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [newbie] Mandrake and DSL You've answered your own question, you don't have an IP so why are you setting one? You need to set up DHCP -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rich McCabeSent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 11:40 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] Mandrake and DSL Can some one give me the information (step by step) to get my Linux machine hooked up to my DSL line. I am lost and have tried everything. Either it is a very complicated process or I have missed something obvious. My current setup is: Mandrake 6.0 with two ethernet cards eth1 IP address is 192.168.1.2 Subnet is 255.255.255.128 eth0 IP address is 192.168.1.1 Subnet is 255.255.255.0 I have a Cisco 675 external router. Basically all I can tell you is it is running in PPP mode, has NAT and DHCP server enabled and ipcp has been set to 0.0.0.0 and DNS has been set to 0.0.0.0. It works when I plug it into a Windows machine !! I am using USWest DSL and ISP service. I DO NOT have a static IP address. Beyond the above address's which I have entered using the netcfg what else do I need to set up ? Is there anything that needs to be configured under the routing tab. Eventually (like tommorrow.. hehe) I want to go back to IP masquerading as I have done in the past with a dial up connection. .. I guess I need to get the Linux machine to talk to the internet on its own first. Thank you very much in advance for any help you can provide. Regards, Rich
[newbie] root pppd
Sorry if this is an old question, but how do you get normal users appart from root to be able to run pppd???
Re: [newbie] Need a strong convincing argument
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Bernardo Rodrigues wrote: Linux. My answer to that was that he could either install Staroffice or WordPerfect in his home machine so that he could port the job. But that was all said in theory, since I do not have either of the two tools in my machine to prove a point, he did not seem very convinced. I have WIN95/Office pro 97, I have so far been quite unsucessfull at importing stuff from here into StarOffice5.1but I'm probably doing something stupid...and haven't tried much since.
[newbie] libjpeg6b? Can't compile anything KDE...
Hi, I know I'm probably not the first one to ask about this, but I can't find the answer anywhere. I've tried to compile some KDE apps on my Mdk6 box, but they won't. The configure scripts say I haven't got libjpeg6b, or that I haven't installed KDE-Support. What to do? Where can I find an update? Regards, Haakon Nilsen.
[newbie] Mouse doesn't get recognized
Linux loaded fine, recognized a generic 3 button ps/2 mouse when actually run linux mandrake 6.0 the pointer doesn't move can somebody help me on this?
Re: [newbie] disk druid
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Martin Cleaver wrote: I am not the first to ask the question, but hope to be the first to get an answer... Where can I find disk druid? I want to use it to partition a second hard disk in my machine which has mandrake Linux already installed. fdisk is in the /sbin directory, but where do I find disk druid? Rgds Martin Disk druid is only in the installer, I am unaware if anyway has segmented this to standalone code however it should be posible. Try cfdisk it is a little more eye pleaseing than fdisk.
[newbie] IP Masquerading and Linux Mandrake
Does anyone know of a good resource with step-by-step instructions for setting up IP masquerading on a Linux box. The HOW-TO details how to set up a proxy server and we don't need a proxy server. Principally, we just need network address translation so we can share a DSL connection with our private network. Any ideas? thanks... sanford
[newbie] UFS file system
Has anyone been able to us the UFS file system to accesss CDs? Adaptec's cdwriter 95 driver can leave its cd's in a UFS format. I was wondering the UFS support in linux is able to read those cds. If so, is there a mechanism of setting the automount for the cd to recognize if it is in the iso format, or udf? Thanks, Bill
Re: [newbie] Mouse doesn't get recognized
Fotios Moumoulidis wrote: Linux loaded fine, recognized a generic 3 button ps/2 mouse when actually run linux mandrake 6.0 the pointer doesn't move can somebody help me on this? I had the same problem ( I have a laptop ) The cure was to remove the modem during boot up... Dont know if this will help you any Hugh
Re: [newbie] Need a strong convincing argument
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, you wrote: Hi All, Sorry my mail is a little long. Please be advised of that. I have got a friend whom is trying to move away from the Windows environment, but is having a lot of concerns on whether he'll succeed or not with Linux. He believes that because Linux is being developed by hackers throughout the world and it does not have a certified authentication, it will not last for longer. I would not try to convert him. He won't be happy. Just chuckle every time he has to re-boot windows, and if he asks about Linux, just say "oh, you wouldn't like it, it isn't certified". Then continue with your work. Irv
Re: [newbie] IP Masquerading and Linux Mandrake
Hi, Sanford, Try http://jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide/. . I haven't used the document myself for IP Masquerading setup. But a quick look at the document tells me that it is possibly a good starting point. Hope this helps. Bernardo
[newbie] Networking with Mandrake (help!)
I have a working two computer network with file, print, and internet sharing in Windows. I would like to have the same thing in Linux, but I know almost nothing about networking in Linux. Both computers have 2 NIC cards. My internal IP is 192.168.244.132 and the other computer has an IP of 192.168.244.131. The card type is an "NDC 10/100 Fast Etherent PCI (MX-A)(MX987x5)". That is what shows in the Windows Network Control Panel. What are the steps that I would need to take to get a working two computer network in Linux with file, print, and internet sharing? My computer switches between Windows 98 and Mandrake 6.0. The other computer is only Windows 98. Will Linux see the other Windows computer and will the other windows computer see my Linux computer? Thanks a whole lot! The Webmonkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere! ZDNet Mail - http://www.zdnetmail.com
RE: [newbie] Need a strong convincing argument
I just finished installing MDK6.0 on my system and then proceeded to install StarOffice5.1. I then took a Word97 doc from my windoze machine, copied it to a floppy and opened it up in StarOffice. With the exception of having to adjust some minor formatting issues, I was pleased with the results. I am not sure about saving a document in StarOffice as a ".doc" file, but I was excited to see it get as close as it did - I am trying to convince someone as well and thus my experiment. Michael -Original Message- From: Bernardo Rodrigues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Need a strong convincing argument Hi All, Sorry my mail is a little long. Please be advised of that. I have got a friend whom is trying to move away from the Windows environment, but is having a lot of concerns on whether he'll succeed or not with Linux. He believes that because Linux is being developed by hackers throughout the world and it does not have a certified authentication, it will not last for longer. I've tried my best to give him an overall picture of Linux plus the many things he can with it, but don't think I was convincing enough. I even showed him some of my computational work, and the performance of Linux, and many technical details that Linux has over Windows. But because the software that I run has a Windows counterpart which does the job for him he was skeptical, although I could sense how impressed he was with Linux, Kde, Gnome , AfterStep and other things. He has asked me this simple question: Suppose that he gets some work done at work under Excel, Word or Corel and he wants to continue the same work at home where he has a Linux machine. What chances has he got in porting is work from the Dos environment to Linux. My answer to that was that he could either install Staroffice or WordPerfect in his home machine so that he could port the job. But that was all said in theory, since I do not have either of the two tools in my machine to prove a point, he did not seem very convinced. Can anybody give me more reasons to convince him. Anyway I'll install Soffice or WP to convince him. Thanks in advance for any info. Regards Bernardo
Re: [newbie] Mouse doesn't get recognized
I don't know if this will help..but while in console mode mode you can reconfigure the mouse anytime with the command "mouseconfig"what kind of mouse are you using...if it's 3 button mouse don't activate the "emulate 3 buttons" thingy..cuase that's only for two button mouses (or is that mice :) Hugh wrote: Fotios Moumoulidis wrote: Linux loaded fine, recognized a generic 3 button ps/2 mouse when actually run linux mandrake 6.0 the pointer doesn't move can somebody help me on this? I had the same problem ( I have a laptop ) The cure was to remove the modem during boot up... Dont know if this will help you any Hugh
Re: [newbie] StarOffice won't install on mandrake6.0
Hi, Don I've found your mail regarding the installation of Staroffice, in which you admit to have successfully installed the aforasaid software. Can you please provide me with a step-by-step guide of what you've for that installation to be successfull. I've got Mandrake6.0 and it keeps complaining about the libraries files not being existent. Thanks in advance. Bernardo
Re: [newbie] Mouse doesn't get recognized
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Hugh wrote: Fotios Moumoulidis wrote: Linux loaded fine, recognized a generic 3 button ps/2 mouse when actually run linux mandrake 6.0 the pointer doesn't move can somebody help me on this? I had the same problem ( I have a laptop ) The cure was to remove the modem during boot up... Dont know if this will help you any Hugh Does it work in console or X or niether? Before you goto removeing hardware, run /usr/sbin/mouseconfig and walk thru the settings and most likely one will work.
Re: [newbie] IP Masquerading and Linux Mandrake
"W. Sanford May" wrote: Does anyone know of a good resource with step-by-step instructions for setting up IP masquerading on a Linux box. The HOW-TO details how to set up http://members.home.net/ipmasq/ Has all the info you're looking for. -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Re: [newbie] Networking with Mandrake (help!)
I have installed linux several times. This procedure always works. 1. Edit /etc/smb.conf and change the following MAKE SURE that the line "workgroup = MYGROUP' is CHANGED to be "workgroup = (what ever you have in windows under workgroup in settings-control panel-network-identification" 2. Change the line 'security = user' to security = share' 3. Uncomment (take out the semi-colon) the section that looks like this: ;[public] ;path = /home/samba ;public = yes ;writable = yes ;printable = no 4. If you want your whole linux machine to show up in windows, change the above "path = /home/samba" to 'path = /", otherwise, only the /home/samba directory will be available to windows. 5. Shutdown and restart samba or reboot you linux machine and it will be visible in windows network neighborhood. On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:06:51 -0700, Jason Riesa wrote: I have a working two computer network with file, print, and internet sharing in Windows. I would like to have the same thing in Linux, but I know almost nothing about networking in Linux. Both computers have 2 NIC cards. My internal IP is 192.168.244.132 and the other computer has an IP of 192.168.244.131. The card type is an "NDC 10/100 Fast Etherent PCI (MX-A)(MX987x5)". That is what shows in the Windows Network Control Panel. What are the steps that I would need to take to get a working two computer network in Linux with file, print, and internet sharing? My computer switches between Windows 98 and Mandrake 6.0. The other computer is only Windows 98. Will Linux see the other Windows computer and will the other windows computer see my Linux computer? Thanks a whole lot! The Webmonkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere! ZDNet Mail - http://www.zdnetmail.com
RE: [newbie] Need a strong convincing argument
with the exception of star office's messed up bulleted lists (graphics have wierd off-white background) the .doc export works perfectly in my experience - I've used it extensively for business. So does it's rtf export. wordperfect's rtf is gibbled though, although I think it always has been in other versions as well (if I recall). Don -- On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, you wrote: I just finished installing MDK6.0 on my system and then proceeded to install StarOffice5.1. I then took a Word97 doc from my windoze machine, copied it to a floppy and opened it up in StarOffice. With the exception of having to adjust some minor formatting issues, I was pleased with the results.I am not sure about saving a document in StarOffice as a ".doc" file, but I was excited to see it get as close as it did - I am trying to convince someone as well and thus my experiment.Michael -Original Message- From: Bernardo Rodrigues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Need a strong convincing argument Hi All, Sorry my mail is a little long. Please be advised of that. I have got a friend whom is trying to move away from the Windows environment, but is having a lot of concerns on whether he'll succeed or not with Linux. He believes that because Linux is being developed by hackers throughout the world and it does not have a certified authentication, it will not last for longer. I've tried my best to give him an overall picture of Linux plus the many things he can with it, but don't think I was convincing enough. I even showed him some of my computational work, and the performance of Linux, and many technical details that Linux has over Windows. But because the software that I run has a Windows counterpart which does the job for him he was skeptical, although I could sense how impressed he was with Linux, Kde, Gnome , AfterStep and other things. He has asked me this simple question: Suppose that he gets some work done at work under Excel, Word or Corel and he wants to continue the same work at home where he has a Linux machine. What chances has he got in porting is work from the Dos environment to Linux. My answer to that was that he could either install Staroffice or WordPerfect in his home machine so that he could port the job. But that was all said in theory, since I do not have either of the two tools in my machine to prove a point, he did not seem very convinced. Can anybody give me more reasons to convince him. Anyway I'll install Soffice or WP to convince him. Thanks in advance for any info. Regards Bernardo
Re: [newbie] StarOffice won't install on mandrake6.0
just download version 5.1 from the staroffice website and install it - and ignore the warnings about missing libraries (keep installing). Don On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, you wrote: Hi, Don I've found your mail regarding the installation of Staroffice, in which you admit to have successfully installed the aforasaid software. Can you please provide me with a step-by-step guide of what you've for that installation to be successfull. I've got Mandrake6.0 and it keeps complaining about the libraries files not being existent. Thanks in advance. Bernardo
Re: [newbie] Networking with Mandrake (help!)
Ok. Now what drivers do I use for my ethernet card? The autoprobe in the installation said it was a tulip card. I don't know what that is, but my card is an NDC 10/100 PCI card. After I went into Linux it seemed fine until every 10 seconds it kept popping up messages in the console saying something like "eth0 blah blah blah retrying" Are there any generic ethernet drivers available? And is it possible to share the internet connection from windows with my linux computer. Thanks. The Webmonkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere! ZDNet Mail - http://www.zdnetmail.com
Re: [newbie] StarOffice won't install on mandrake6.0
Bernardo Rodrigues wrote: Hi, Don I've found your mail regarding the installation of Staroffice, in which you admit to have successfully installed the aforasaid software. Can you please provide me with a step-by-step guide of what you've for that installation to be successfull. I've got Mandrake6.0 and it keeps complaining about the libraries files not being existent. Thanks in advance. Bernardo Hi Bernardo, just 2 weeks ago I installed mandrake 6.0 and then I wanted to give SO 5.1 a try. After downloading and untarring I started the installation script (as user) and saw a lot of warning abouts several libs not beeing found on my system. But it also said, that I may proceed with the installation and have a good chance that it would work anyway. So did I and -surprise- it worked without any problems or complaints since that very moment. It takes some time to start on my pc (P133, 64MB RAM) but when it's up and running, it is ok. So I recommend you just to go ahead - you can't ruin anything and most probably it works! Bye, Willy
Re: [newbie] Networking with Mandrake (help!)
Your card use's the tulip driver. Go into netcfg and enter your machines IP address and the DNS. On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:20:03 -0700, Jason Riesa wrote: Ok. Now what drivers do I use for my ethernet card? The autoprobe in the installation said it was a tulip card. I don't know what that is, but my card is an NDC 10/100 PCI card. After I went into Linux it seemed fine until every 10 seconds it kept popping up messages in the console saying something like "eth0 blah blah blah retrying" Are there any generic ethernet drivers available? And is it possible to share the internet connection from windows with my linux computer. Thanks. The Webmonkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Free web-based email, anytime, anywhere! ZDNet Mail - http://www.zdnetmail.com
[newbie] Kernel Optimizations
Linux Mandrake 6.0 is said to be optimized for Pentium-type processors. This means that it was compiled using pgcc instead of gcc, correct? So if I wanted to compile a custom kernel (i.e. include NTFS support) I'm guessing that I should use pgcc instead of gcc, to keep the optimizations. On a side note, could I do the opposite to install 6.0 on a 386/486? I mean, install 6.0, including kernel sources, then boot off a floppy with a non-optimized kernel, and recompile the kernel using gcc? Also, was anything else done to Mandrake to optimize it for Pentium processors? -Matt Stegman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Need a strong convincing argument
also, if he's desperate to run windows apps, try downloading and installing the free trial version of vmware (www.download.com's linux area) - it let's you install windows 3.1, 95, 98,. NT and DOS on your linux box that run in windows within your linux environmentthe best of both worlds Don On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, you wrote:He has asked me this simple question: Suppose that he gets some work done at work under Excel, Word or Corel and he wants to continue the same work at home where he has a Linux machine. What chances has he got in porting is work from the Dos environment to Linux. Hy, I have found it very easy to open and use Excel and Word files from windows with StarOffice in Linux. Also, Wordperfect for Linux handles Word files nicely. Haven't tried it with Excel, though. Point out to your friend how silly it is to have one company in charge of all the desktops in the world. Tell him about the viruses that rage through systems that rely on that company. adios, STeve _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] StarOffice won't install on mandrake6.0
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, Steve Winston wrote: Concerning StarOffice and its humongous download time (I don't have ISDN or anything like that):Is there a downloader of some kind that allows resumption of a download after it has been interrupted? Something that resumes at the point where the connection was broken? Sure, try wget, which you should have installed already if you're using M6. It's a console program, so type 'man wget' to see instructions on how to use it. Also, if you're using KDE, there's a nice download manager called Caitoo which you can get at http://devel-home.kde.org/kget/ --- Don Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just download version 5.1 from the staroffice website and install it - and ignore the warnings about missing libraries (keep installing). _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] StarOffice won't install on mandrake6.0
Don, I tried that and ended back at the prompt without it installing. Any other ideas? Brian Don Kelley wrote: just download version 5.1 from the staroffice website and install it - and ignore the warnings about missing libraries (keep installing). Don On Fri, 25 Jun 1999, you wrote: Hi, Don I've found your mail regarding the installation of Staroffice, in which you admit to have successfully installed the aforasaid software. Can you please provide me with a step-by-step guide of what you've for that installation to be successfull. I've got Mandrake6.0 and it keeps complaining about the libraries files not being existent. Thanks in advance. Bernardo
Re: [newbie] Need a strong convincing argument
I have got a friend whom is trying to move away from the Windows environment, but is having a lot of concerns on whether he'll succeed or not with Linux. He believes that because Linux is being developed by hackers throughout the world and it does not have a certified authentication, it will not last for longer. I would not try to convert him. He won't be happy. As much as I would like to see Linux grow, I have to agree with Irv on this one. This is like trying to get a friend to dump his girlfriend and go on a blind date. The "best" operating system is the one that does what you need. I like Linux. I loved UNIX way before X-windows. I dismissed MS Windows for years until 3.11 came out. But the flat out truth is that MS Windows is pretty damned good. And taking both license costs and administration costs into consideration it's got by far the lowest "total cost of ownership" for an individual or a small to mid-sized office. While Linux is "free" there is big learning curve for most offices. That costs time, which is money. For an individual it's the same argument. If the guy really wants to be fertilizing his tomato plants instead of trying to get a letter out, then he really wants to be fertilizing his tomato plants. And pushing him into the position of having to fidget with something he isn't really interested in is a disservice to him. Of course, if he shows up at the door and says, "I've just formatted my C: drive. What do you suggest," then jump at the opportunity to push Linux. MB -- Michael R. Batchelor Industrial Informatics Instrumentation, Inc.
RE: [newbie] Need a strong convincing argument
Excellently put, and I too am a linux lover. The OS is and will always be a means to an end. A tool, what. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael R. Batchelor Sent: 25 June 1999 19:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Need a strong convincing argument I have got a friend whom is trying to move away from the Windows environment, but is having a lot of concerns on whether he'll succeed or not with Linux. He believes that because Linux is being developed by hackers throughout the world and it does not have a certified authentication, it will not last for longer. I would not try to convert him. He won't be happy. As much as I would like to see Linux grow, I have to agree with Irv on this one. This is like trying to get a friend to dump his girlfriend and go on a blind date. The "best" operating system is the one that does what you need. I like Linux. I loved UNIX way before X-windows. I dismissed MS Windows for years until 3.11 came out. But the flat out truth is that MS Windows is pretty damned good. And taking both license costs and administration costs into consideration it's got by far the lowest "total cost of ownership" for an individual or a small to mid-sized office. While Linux is "free" there is big learning curve for most offices. That costs time, which is money. For an individual it's the same argument. If the guy really wants to be fertilizing his tomato plants instead of trying to get a letter out, then he really wants to be fertilizing his tomato plants. And pushing him into the position of having to fidget with something he isn't really interested in is a disservice to him. Of course, if he shows up at the door and says, "I've just formatted my C: drive. What do you suggest," then jump at the opportunity to push Linux. MB -- Michael R. Batchelor Industrial Informatics Instrumentation, Inc.
Re: [newbie] Video problem
[this thread is almost a month old, but I noticed it and would be interested to hear if someone has a method that works (personal experience.] I wished that worked, but it didn't when I just tried it. I went and commented out every one of the "Virtual screen" lines in my XF85Config, and there was no change, I still had "screen missing" when I dropped from 1024x... to 800x It seems that virtual screen defaults to the highest resolution, and the lower resolutions just have to live with it. I've not seen a setup that allowed one to switch from a "full screen" 1024x... to a "full screen" 800x... without dropping out of X and changing the X's configuration..., then, again, I guess there are a whole lot of things I haven't seen - and they actually _do_ which exist g Have you been able to get it to work for you? Would you post your config file? Thanks. Gerry What is is and what isn't isn't,... 'least that's what they want me to believe. -- Mythic Folk Proverb Manny Styles wrote: you could also just edit out the virtual screen resolution line, then when you switch resolutions, everything will fit on the 'actual' screen. Manny Styles [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Bother," said Pooh, "Eeyore, ready two photon torpedoes and lock phasers on the Heffalump. Piglet, meet me in transporter room three. Christopher Robin, you have the bridge." - Original Message - From: Philip C. Hewitt II [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 6:19 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video problem By default Xwindows takes your highest resolution you have set for the color depth you are in and makes that your virtual screen resolution...if you wish to set your virtual desktop size to something else add the line Virtual 1024 768or whatever resolution you want just below the ViewPort line...make sure your spacing lines up... Mark wrote: When i change resolution from 1280x1024 to anything lower i have to scroll off the edge of the screen to see other parts of the desktop. How can i change it so that when I change resolution I can view the whole screen whithout scrolling? Mark -- Philip C. Hewitt II Power to the Penguin
[newbie] Installation problems
I recently got Linux-Mandrake from cheapbytes, and tried to install it..actually, tried about three times. :) With the Linux for Windows attempt, when the OS tries to load, I get the following error at the end of allt he bootup text: VFS: Cannot open root device 08:21 Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:21 When I tried a regular old install on a partition I leached away from my main windows partition (created using the 'partitian manager' thingie that came on the cd), I encountered two problems: 1) It wouldn't install the boot-loader, neither in the Master Boot Record nor on the first-part-of-partition, or whatever it said. I'm not sure why. The error message was vague, just saying that the error occured. I figured this just meant that it wouldn't automatically switch between OS's, so I loaded up fdisk in DOS and set the active-booting partition to the linux one, and rebooted. I got a 'Missing operating system' error..and nothing happens, no linux, no nothing. Computer specs: Pentium-II 400mhz, 10gig hd, with a 800ish meg linux partition, and 120ish meg swap partition made. 128megs ram, etc. Thanks for any help you have to offer. --S
