Re: [newbie] Thank you Poogle.

2002-08-13 Thread Michael Adams

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:19, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 I d/l'ed kdeutils from that link you sent, and it installed just fine. I've
 got the kedit/text editor again.

 Thanks much!

Yes, thanks.

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Re: [newbie] screwed (but workable) partitions

2002-08-13 Thread John Richard Smith

Dale Huckeby wrote:

On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Marc Audard wrote:
  

. . .  




  It would make sense to try that, at least according to my quite possibly
mistaken understanding of the logic of partitioning.  However, RedHat has
several times barfed on my Mandrake partitions, and I'm pretty sure I had
had an hda1 primary at /, hda2 primary swap, hda3 primary at /home, and a
primary extended into logical partitions hda5 at /usr and hda6 at /var (if
I remember correctly).  I wouldn't have thought that would be a problem,
but it said each time that it couldn't read the partition table.  I've been
attributing it to the fact that the Mandrake partitions were ReiserFS, but
I don't know.  So you might still have to wipe.  Of course, my analysis
is probably full of holes, since I don't know much about partitioning
except by trying to logic it out.

Dale Huckeby
  

  

All this has happened because of the differing ways that the old DOS 
fdisk notation
can be set up. Whilst it is correct that you can create up to 4 primary 
dos partitions,
few  systems do, these days, this is because the prefered manner of 
doing things is
to create One primary partition(the first one) then take all the rest of 
the drive, and designate it an Extended dos partition that itself can be 
devided up into as
many Logical dos partitions as you care to create.
In the aformentioned example something , probably diskdrake created 4 
primary
dos partitions, which Redhat it would seem does not like, while Mandrake 
is happy
to work  with it. The solution appears to be to recreate your partition 
table in the
generally accepted one primary, one extended of any number of logicals 
because
I know mandrake is happy to work with this configuration as well, indeed 
that is
what I have, and it would seem RH likes it as well.Civileme say's 
diskdrake can be
made to do that as well, which is fair enough,  in case you don't have PM.
I know the windblows newer partiton tools as well as PM  create one primary,
one extended of any number of logicals when they are used.It is only the 
old
Dos fdisk programme and diskdrake that allow you to create up to 4 primary
dos partitions, one extended of any number of logical dos partitions.

It's about time really that the whole industry went over to the linux 
hardrive
partitioning system, of hda, hdb, hdc, partitions1,2,3,4, etc etc.but the
windblows world is stuck with the old dos fdisk , so there we are.

John

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Re: [newbie] Thank you Poogle.

2002-08-13 Thread poogle

On Tuesday 13 August 2002 04:19 am, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 I d/l'ed kdeutils from that link you sent, and it installed just fine. I've
 got the kedit/text editor again.

 Thanks much!

Glad I could help, usually when I see a post and think I can help with that, I 
see another that has already answered it. Re: your comments about Powerpack v 
D/L it does seem a likely explanation as my version is D/L.

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[newbie] Fonts in KDE solved

2002-08-13 Thread Anne Wilson

You may remember that I asked how to get the added windows fonts available to 
KWord (they were visible in OpenOffice).

During a considerable browsing session I came across this:
'If you wish to use Unicode fonts with KWord (so that you can access symbols 
such as smart quotes, and the Euro), then I suggest you use KDE's control 
centre to change the KDE fonts from Helvetica to Arial.

Whilst this did not seem directly relevant, I though it might be a sensible 
move.  It is then necessary to re-login to re-start KDE.

Amazingly, when I then opened KWord all the fonts were there.

Of course, my email looks rather ugly now, in Arial, but I can experiment 
with that, I think, now that I know.

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Re: [newbie] CD Burning issues

2002-08-13 Thread Roman Korcek

Hi Isaac,

 I tried to use ERoaster and X-CD-Roast (just because they were the
 first two in  the K Menu) but neither of them ever opened. The
 little disks spun in the  taskbar for a few seconds, then just
 disappeared uneventfully. I checked my  process manager and they
 weren't running in the background so I figured  further efforts with
 them would be counterproductive. Gtoaster opened up fine  and I was
 able to select the songs I wanted to burn, but when I chose Record
 it gave me a stream of errors in my Client output box. which I've
 copy-pasted  below. What's up?
 
 GnomeToaster Recording Terminal
 Recording 773161200 bytes to CD 
 couldn´t run client: Permission denied
 
 Child exited unexpectedly. 
 couldn´t run client: Permission denied
 
 Child exited unexpectedly. 
 
 Child exited unexpectedly. 
 couldn´t run client: Permission denied

snip

 fixating CDROM. 
 couldn´t run client: Permission denied
 CD recording process finished. 
 blanking CDRW. 
 couldn´t run client: Permission denied
 CDRW blanking complete.

First you might want to upgrade to the latest versions of cdrecord,
mkisofs, cdrecord-devel and cdrecord-cdda2wav and your GUI programs.
Next, try running them as root - kdesu -c your_GUI_program. The GUI
programs usually need to be set up from the root account, allowing
other users (you) to burn CDs, too. Smart programs set everything up
themselves, you just need to say what user(s) you want to have the
rights to burn CDs. Try and set it up, AFAIK X-CD Roast offers to
setup a non-root mode right at startup. Exit and try again as normal
user. If it doesn't work, try going into drakuser and add yourself to
all groups which have something to do with CD (cdburners, cdrw,
cdrom, etc.). Try again. :-)

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Re: [newbie] Spontaneous logout

2002-08-13 Thread FemmeFatale

daRcmaTTeR wrote:
 
 On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Anne Wilson wrote:
 
  I've just had the most unnervin exeperience.  I had two directories, KMail
  and several documents open under OpenOffice, copying and pasting away, when
  suddenly the screen blacked briefly then brought up the login screen.  I
  shall now have to sort out which documents might have been affected by this -
  I certainly hadn't saved them for a while, so there'll be lost work at least.
   Let's hope there isn't file corruption too.
 
  Anyone any idea what might have happened?
 
  Anne
 
 Anne,
 
 well, look at it this way. it's not a total loss. you were, after all,
 able to get copy and paste to work in OpenOffice. thats quite an
 accomplishment. apart from that it merely sounds as though your X server
 crashed. i doubt you've got any serious file corruption. maybe to the
 files you had open if that.
 
 --
 daRmaTTeR

Funny thing, my computer acted similarly *In windows mind you blah* and
if i tapped the monitor it shimmered.  This went on for months... woke
up last Saturday Morning almost had a heart attack!  The computer was
Off!  I had left it on over night ;p  so... why off?  Well after 2 hours
or so  a lot of cursing *yes i do that alot when computers fuck up*.  

Ooops... see? Reflex. ;p

Anyway turned out my powersupply had died overnight. ;\  Thank god i had
a spare computer with a  P/S in it I could use. :)

Moral of the story:  Check the p/s  see if you are getting brownouts
too ;p

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Re: [newbie] Cooker updates - wget or curl?

2002-08-13 Thread Alastair Scott

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On Tue 13 August 2002 7:52 pm, Derek Jennings wrote:

 Has anyone updating to Cooker daily, noticed if updates are faster when
 urpmi uses either wget or curl as the back end?

 When I first installed my 9.0  I noticed that it was getting two packages,
 and then doing a relogin   The continuous logging out and logging in was
 taking as long as the actual downloads.

 Then I realized that curl had not been installed by default and I was using
 wget for the downloads.  Now I am using curl it no longer pauses between
 packages, but on the other hand sometimes it seems to take ages to log in.

Strangely, I don't see any significant difference between the two (with Cooker 
at mirror.ac.uk and using ADSL).

I actually prefer --wget as it provides _far_ more information (curl, 
bizarrely, doesn't say what package is downloading although it provides loads 
of other data ...).

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Re: [newbie] Spontaneous logout

2002-08-13 Thread Alastair Scott

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On Tue 13 August 2002 7:18 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:

 I've just had the most unnervin exeperience.  I had two directories, KMail
 and several documents open under OpenOffice, copying and pasting away, when
 suddenly the screen blacked briefly then brought up the login screen.  I
 shall now have to sort out which documents might have been affected by this
 - I certainly hadn't saved them for a while, so there'll be lost work at
 least. Let's hope there isn't file corruption too.

 Anyone any idea what might have happened?

Very hard to tell although the usual caveats about hardware (in particular, 
the seating of DIMMs) come to mind. There could also have been a minor 
(mains) power glitch.

If it's any consolation, this happening _repeatedly_ (in both Win2K and WinXP) 
was why I gave up Windows.

The machine was gone over with a fine-tooth comb, to the extent of someone who 
knew their stuff applying a HP oscilloscope to the components and collecting 
and examining data, and we could never find out what was wrong. The 
possibility of work vanishing without warning was too much, and it was either 
'ditch the machine or change to a completely different OS'.

Thereafter, needless to say, M8.2 ran perfectly on the same hardware.

Alastair
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[newbie] Fifth Open Source office suite

2002-08-13 Thread Alastair Scott

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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned this, but Gobe Productive is going Open 
Source 'within the next 90-120 days' (the gap presumably being to get the 
source code cleaned up :)

http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1520

http://www.gobe.com/

I've used it before on Windows, and it's _very_ nice - which is no surprise as 
it has been developed by former AppleWorks programmers. (The four existing 
suites are StarOffice, OpenOffice.org, KOffice and Hancom Office).

Alastair
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Re: [newbie] Spontaneous logout

2002-08-13 Thread Anne Wilson

On Tuesday 13 Aug 2002 8:35 pm, you wrote:
 On Tue 13 August 2002 7:18 pm, Anne Wilson wrote:
  I've just had the most unnervin exeperience.  I had two directories,
  KMail and several documents open under OpenOffice, copying and pasting
  away, when suddenly the screen blacked briefly then brought up the login
  screen.  I shall now have to sort out which documents might have been
  affected by this - I certainly hadn't saved them for a while, so there'll
  be lost work at least. Let's hope there isn't file corruption too.
 
  Anyone any idea what might have happened?

 Very hard to tell although the usual caveats about hardware (in particular,
 the seating of DIMMs) come to mind. There could also have been a minor
 (mains) power glitch.

 If it's any consolation, this happening _repeatedly_ (in both Win2K and
 WinXP) was why I gave up Windows.

 The machine was gone over with a fine-tooth comb, to the extent of someone
 who knew their stuff applying a HP oscilloscope to the components and
 collecting and examining data, and we could never find out what was wrong.
 The possibility of work vanishing without warning was too much, and it was
 either 'ditch the machine or change to a completely different OS'.

 Thereafter, needless to say, M8.2 ran perfectly on the same hardware.

 Alastair

I suppose that it is because Mdk is so stable that I was shocked.  If it had 
been Win98 I would have cursed but not been the least bit surprised.  Ah well 
- it probably isn't important.

Annoyingly, though, when I cured the OO problems by getting a new profile I 
forgot to re-set the automatic save and save with backup.  Both are back on 
now, so I should never lose more than 10 minutes' work.

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[newbie] Attn FemmeFatal!, Never appoligize for swearing @ a computer

2002-08-13 Thread James R. McKenzie

It reminds them that we think we own them.  kinda like cats.   8-[





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Re: [newbie] Spontaneous logout

2002-08-13 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, FemmeFatale wrote:

 daRcmaTTeR wrote:
  
  On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Anne Wilson wrote:
  
   I've just had the most unnervin exeperience.  I had two directories, KMail
   and several documents open under OpenOffice, copying and pasting away, when
   suddenly the screen blacked briefly then brought up the login screen.  I
   shall now have to sort out which documents might have been affected by this -
   I certainly hadn't saved them for a while, so there'll be lost work at least.
Let's hope there isn't file corruption too.
  
   Anyone any idea what might have happened?
  
   Anne
  
  Anne,
  
  well, look at it this way. it's not a total loss. you were, after all,
  able to get copy and paste to work in OpenOffice. thats quite an
  accomplishment. apart from that it merely sounds as though your X server
  crashed. i doubt you've got any serious file corruption. maybe to the
  files you had open if that.
  
  --
  daRmaTTeR
 
 Funny thing, my computer acted similarly *In windows mind you blah* and
 if i tapped the monitor it shimmered.  This went on for months... woke
 up last Saturday Morning almost had a heart attack!  The computer was
 Off!  I had left it on over night ;p  so... why off?  Well after 2 hours
 or so  a lot of cursing *yes i do that alot when computers fuck up*.  
 
 Ooops... see? Reflex. ;p
 
 Anyway turned out my powersupply had died overnight. ;\  Thank god i had
 a spare computer with a  P/S in it I could use. :)
 
 Moral of the story:  Check the p/s  see if you are getting brownouts
 too ;p
 
Hey Femme! good catch. I hadn't thought of that.  

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Re: [newbie] Spontaneous logout

2002-08-13 Thread civileme

Anne Wilson wrote:

I've just had the most unnervin exeperience.  I had two directories, KMail 
and several documents open under OpenOffice, copying and pasting away, when 
suddenly the screen blacked briefly then brought up the login screen.  I 
shall now have to sort out which documents might have been affected by this - 
I certainly hadn't saved them for a while, so there'll be lost work at least. 
 Let's hope there isn't file corruption too.

Anyone any idea what might have happened?

Anne




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I have heard reports of this under KDE with one of the optional 
themes--Platinum and RISC both

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Re: [newbie] Attn FemmeFatal!, Never appoligize for swearing @ a computer

2002-08-13 Thread et

On Tuesday 13 August 2002 04:14 pm, you wrote:
 It reminds them that we think we own them.  kinda like cats.   8-[
do you know the difference between a professional tech, and a shade tree 
tech?

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Re: [newbie] difficulties hooking into internet (ethernet card, cable modem, hub)

2002-08-13 Thread David Reynolds

- Original Message -
From: civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 OK  basically you cannot connect to the cable modem through a hub, or
 connect more than one computer at a time through it to be proper.  The
 first one gets its IP address and there are no more to be given by the
 cable modem.

 If you want to connect multiple computers through a single cable modem,
 connect the Mandrake computer and then add a second interface to a hub
 for the other computers--eth0 to local and eth1 to cable then activate
 connection sharing

 The dhcp failure you are geting is most likely the connection
 misconfiguration.

Thanks greatly for the straightforward answer. Never having had to deal with
a home network before, I did not understand the difference between
hub/switch and router/switch. Silly me.

I'll pick up the other this week and make the switch. I'm planning on using
a LinkSys BEFSR41 Router/Switch since there are three devices currently
intended for connection. Aside from doing the MAC spoofing, is there
anything else I should be aware of?

 Civileme

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Re: [newbie] any hints on a postfix imap webmail setup?

2002-08-13 Thread Todd Slater

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 23:33:14 +0800
Stormjumper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip 
 s/w used
 
 postfix
 courier imap
 squirrelmail
 
 the results
 ---
 1. email for local real users accessible thru imap and webmail
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 maildir in ~/Maildir, accessible locally as well
snip
 2. squirrelmail is extremely easy to install and configure.
snip

I tried squirrelmail a few months ago with courier imap and kept getting
an error (permission denied?) when trying to read mail for my local
accountl. I didn't pursue it since I was just playing and prefer to check
my mail with mutt via secure shell when I'm away from home. Did you have a
Mandrake rpm for it, or did you compile it yourself? Any other gotchas
with squirrelmail?

Todd

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Re: [newbie] Fifth Open Source office suite

2002-08-13 Thread Michael Viron

Well, staroffice is a sun enhanced version of openoffice, so I don't think
you can say they are completely separate,

Michael
At 08:44 PM 8/13/2002 +0100, you wrote:
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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned this, but Gobe Productive is going Open 
Source 'within the next 90-120 days' (the gap presumably being to get the 
source code cleaned up :)

http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1520

http://www.gobe.com/

I've used it before on Windows, and it's _very_ nice - which is no
surprise as 
it has been developed by former AppleWorks programmers. (The four existing 
suites are StarOffice, OpenOffice.org, KOffice and Hancom Office).

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Re: [newbie] Uninstalling

2002-08-13 Thread Marcia

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:07:31 +0100
John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Marcia wrote:
 
 On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:13:28 +0100
 
 Dear John,
 
 Thank you for your answer. I installed with from a vmware rpm plus Peter's Patch 
which was tarred. I have deleted all that I could find so far but something tells me 
there is more. Thank you for your help.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Marcia
 
 John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
 
 Marcia wrote:
 
 
 
 Dear All,
 
 Does anyone know how I can totally uninstall my vmware? I have already deleted 
alot of the files but some I think are still hiding somewhere. I wish to start over 
with this and have a better install next time. Any suggestions will be greatly 
appreciated.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Marcia 
 
  
 
 
  
 
   
 
 It depends how you installed, rpm, tar balls, or internet install.
 John
 
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 I guess then that you know about the rpm uninstall methods.
 
 Basically , it is easiest in the rpm package manager.
 
 but the command line looks like this,
 Install,
 rpm -i (options) packages
 or,
 rpm -install (options)package
 
 and to upgrade,
 rpm -u (options) packages
 or,
 rpm -upgrade (optionss) package
 
 and to remove
 
 rpm -e package
 rpm --erase package
 
 if you feel the need you can specify --nodeps, and --test,
 
 There are very many more options, look in rpm --help.
 
 Tar balls cannot be removed , as such.
 You have to cherry pick them from each directory,
 Finding all the directories is not easy.
 I tend to leave them on and remove the binaries only.
 In your case the rpm erase command is likely to remove all that is 
 necessary.
 It does not sound as though the tar ball patch did much more that correct
 an entry or two. So I should leave it be.
 After you have reinstalled the rpm, that is if you intend to, you can 
 compile and
 install the tar ball patch again it will merely overwrite the previous 
 install.You can do that any number of times it makes no difference.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 By the way what is this programme vmware ?
 John
 
 
 
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Dear John

Thanks alot for all of this terrific information. VMware is an emulator that runs 
other operating systems. It will run on Linux running any Windows OS or on Windows 
running linux and or other OS'S. It works very well and of course one of the 
advantages is you do not have to reboot to get into Windows if you still need to use 
that operating system. When I purchased it the price was reasonable but I do not think 
it is very reasonable at $299.00, however that is just my opinion. 

Thanks for the help.

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Re: [newbie] Spontaneous logout

2002-08-13 Thread Nigel Ridley

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 19:18:12 +0100
Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've just had the most unnervin exeperience.  I had two directories,
 KMail and several documents open under OpenOffice, copying and pasting
 away, when suddenly the screen blacked briefly then brought up the login
 screen.  I shall now have to sort out which documents might have been
 affected by this - I certainly hadn't saved them for a while, so
 there'll be lost work at least. 
  Let's hope there isn't file corruption too.
 
 Anyone any idea what might have happened?
 
 Anne
 


When I first installed 8.2 I immediately downloaded and installed the mdk
KDE 3.0 rpm's.
After just a couple of days I took it all out as KDE 3.0 was making some
problems - the biggest was the spontaneous logout.
After reading on Mandrakes site that KDE 3.0 was really only for testing I
decided to wait for 3.1 as recommended by some folks.

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[newbie] orinoco driver for linksys WAC PC v3

2002-08-13 Thread Rob Burris



Has anyone been able to get their linksys wirless 
PC card to work with the orinoco driver and hermes.conf file with Mandrake 8.2? 
I've been having some problems getting the driver to bind to the card. If anyone 
had sucessfully been able to get their linksys card working and wouldn't passing 
their knowledge onto the list that would be awesome.

- Rob B.