Re: [newbie] Off Topic (post to list)
On Thursday 22 August 2002 07:30 am, you wrote: > I must apologise to everyone on this list. After i replied to a couple of > postings i realised i'd messed up! Posted at TOP not Bottom. Purely > unintentional and please forgive me. Any flame gracefully accepted at this > point. Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 21/08/02 ok,50 lashes with a wet soy bean noodle, at sundown, in the town square Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: An apology to daRcmaTTeR and the list
Fred Fraley wrote: > I'd like to offer an apology for my tone to daRcmaTTeR and the list. I > posted a message "Problem with updates at end of installation", and got a > bit, well, pissy at daRcmaTTeR's response to me. > On another users tip, I looked back at daRcmaTTeR's posts and see he is not a > typical newbie kicker, but very helpful indeed. Though I scan through the > collected posts every couple of days, I don't usually take the time to note > the sender and had not noticed his history. > In hindsight it might not have been clear I ws not asking for updates, only > commenting on a part of the installer and asking whether I would be missing > anything significant if I blew it off. It may indeed have appeared I was > asking why there were no updates for a beta release. > > Fred Hi Fred, apology graciously accepted. although I really hadn't taken any offense from your comments, honest. However, you should fine integrity just by being willing to offer an apology. My intentions were mostly all in good humor and fun. My Penguin salutes you! Mark a.k.a. daRcmaTTeR Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] IP scaning
Can anyone tell me how do i do an IP scanning, scanning a range of ip´s under linux to know if they are alive and are their names. Anyone Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 installation, and desktop
In a message dated 8/22/2002 2:57:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: probably a bad download, or a bad CD burn. try downloading and burning your CD again. those 'failed' packages are sign of big trouble. it shouldn't happen. (oh BTW during the installation, make sure you tell the installer to start X when you reboot ) Damian Hey, what do u mean by telling the installer to startx when i reboot... I didnt see that option. I used advanced setup tooo... Also do you know good download mirror where i could download CD-1, and CD-2 (os, and extras cd) for linux mandrake. I went to: www.linuxiso.org and i downloaded from there, but it seems to be a bad download. Mandrakes site only give 1 file... i dont see all 3.
[newbie] kmail with nested folders -> Evolution?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm considering moving, and there appears to be a problemette with Evolution's import. Although it can import a 'single file' mbox, it cannot import a folder hierarchy containing multiple mbox files, as my installation of kmail has. (Entering /home/thebrix/Mail into the Evolution import box, although not explicitly prevented or warned against, results in nothing happening when the import is triggered). Or am I missing some devious trick whereby nested folders can be imported? I can't find anything on google so far, and the thought of importing 100+ mbox files one by one is apalling. Alastair - -- Alastair Scott (London, United Kingdom) http://www.unmetered.org.uk/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9ZO82dasIDb/2nMwRAsLFAJ9aAVtKqePMn+i4pxGo8f4Bk5gE/wCeO5hr PeO5n9J6OXtud16Z4CiX2so= =ef+W -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] CD burning software
Hi, >> Dose any one have any suggestions on CD duplication software? I copy a >> lot of cd's. I have tried X-CD-Roost but it only can read and copy >> from the CD Write drive. > If you want to write on the fly you will need to add scsi emulation for > your cdrom drive and then set it as your read device in x-cd-roast. > You add the emulation by adding hdx=ide-scsi to the append line in > /etc/lilo.conf for your booting kernel and then editing /etc/fstab to > reflect said change. Clever programs can also read from normal CD-ROM drives without SCSI emulation on. Try for instance k3b. -- HTH Roman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 1024 cylinder limit
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:02:58 +0100, "Peter Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many thanks to everyone who replied to my question about swap file sizes. > > Now I have another concern. > > I have an 80GB hard drive with one partition containing windows XP and > formatted NTFS. > > I plan to use Partitionmagic 7.0 to shrink this partition to 40GB thus > leaving me 40GB to install LM 8.2. However the PM manual containds dire > warnings about a linux bootable partition needing to be below the 1024 > cylinder (8GB) boundary. > > Is this still a problem with LM 8.2 and if so what would be the best way > round it. > > Note my previous nmachine only had a 8GB disk and so I had no problems with > Win 98 and LM 8.0. The PM documentation is outdated by a couple of years. LILO and GRUB can boot Linux from just about anywhere on the disc. You can safely install Mandrake 8.2 [or better yet, wait for 9.0, which should be out in under a month :) ] to wherever you want. AFAIK, Windows still has this 1024 cylinder limit. -- Sridhar Dhanapalan "The reason I'm doing Linux is not because I think I'm "needed". It's because I enjoy it, and because I happen to believe that I'm better than most at it. Not necessarily better than everybody else around there, but good enough, and with the social ties to make me unbeatable right now." -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 8.2 and Linux Standard Base
On Wednesday August 21 2002 09:46 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Wednesday 21 August 2002 12:27 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: > > > > http://www.opengroup.org/lsb/cert/cert_prodlist.tpl?CALLER=index.tp > >l > > > > Right from the horses mouth. Note that Mandrake was LSB > > certified before either Red Hat or Suse were. > > The certification is for Prosuite 8.2 with the update CD. Perhaps > there are differences between that version and the version that c't > used. Hmm... will 9.0 be LSB-compliant? Which versions? > -- cmg Certification is more or less based on compliance with where things are put, ie, in what dir. So if Prosuite 8.2 is compliant, the d/l edition is also. 'Course that's a vast oversimplification, the whole standard can be found here http://www.opengroup.org/lsb/cert/docs/LSB_Certification_Guide.html 9.0 can't be certified till it's released, but it will be, all versions. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 installation, and desktop
On Thursday 22 Aug 2002 4:44 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, I am a linux newbie, and I am very interested in learning linux. I > downloaded Linux 8.2, and i tried installing it but it has about 5 errors > while installing the packages. Installation went through fine, and the > packages didnt seem to cause much effect. When I rebooted my PC after > installing linux 8.2, the boot screen came up in which i chose linux (by > the way i have linux and windows on a dual boot. Windows 20 gigs, and linux > 18 gigs). I was on mandrakes tutorial from the site, and I saw that after > installation it started talking about the "first time wizard", and stuff... > Which seems to be the linux desktop. When i rebooted. It made me go into > the linux console, and i donnot know how to get to the linux-like desktop. > It keeps putting me in the dos-like area which someone said was the > console. I typed startx as someone instructed me to do from an IRC help > channel. It said that there was an error... and it didnt run startx. It > said errno2, and also had errno3. Directory not found or something. Im not > sure whether this is happening because of the installation package errors > or something. Anyways I went back to irc help channel, and i stated this > problem. They told me that linux would boot into the desktop if my video > was ok. I told them i had a nvidia video card, and they told me to update > the drivers for it... I donno what to do. Im not sure if its the drivers or > not. I am running A 1003 mhz computer (about 1ghz) with AMD athlon > processor (T-BIRD). I have 38.9 GB of HDD, and 256MB of RAM. Also, I was > wondering if Mandrake 9.0 would be better for me to install... I always > like to have the most upgraded version. However im not sure if its buggy... > I would love to have 9.0 but i want to make sure i wont have tons of > errors.. I know it is in beta right now. If you think Mandrake 9.0 doesnt > have many bugs or errors, and it would be a better upgrade then 8.2, please > tell me. I have alot of things I would like information on, so I would like > if a supporter could spend some time to help. I went through some linux > tutorials but xtra help is always good. First i need to get out of the > console :). Also... I was wondering if i could get AOL to run on linux.. Ok > I know AOL Lamers... bla bla bla, but its the only thing i got :(, And > please dont laugh at me. I was thinkking WINE, or win4lin could do the > job... Could it? Please help me with the installation process... and how to > make everything work correctly. My computer is about 1 year old, and i > shouldnt have much problem. Please email me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I > would appreciate it very much. Ive never used this post thing, so im not > sure if this will come out in like a message board, but if it does respond > to my email please instead of the post. Once again my email is: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I would appreciate any help I could get on installing Mandrake linux :) Sorry to hear you had problems. Here are some thoughts. 1/ Plz try to avoid using html mails when posting to a list. It is generally regarded as 'evil'. Your font comes out really tiny on my screen, and some people cannot receive html at all. (Your Outlook express has a setting to disable Html) 2/Your errors when installing packages is almost certainly the reason you cannot enter the graphical environment. If you downloaded your CDs try doing it again, and check the MD5 checksum of the download before committing to CD. 3/ You can use AOL with Linux. Check out http://www.mandrakeforum.org/article.php?sid=2314&lang=en I do believe Wine will workOk, but only with a very old version of AOL. Win4Lin is probably OK. 4/ Do not worry about your Nvidia drivers yet. You will need them for OpenGL games, but for normal use the default OpenSource drivers work just fine. Wait until you know what you are doing before installing the nvidia driver. 5/ Do not even think about 9.0 just yet. As with all Beta releases it still has plenty of faults in it. Mandrake 8.2 is a very advanced distro, and is very stable. derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] An apology to daRcmaTTeR and the list
I'd like to offer an apology for my tone to daRcmaTTeR and the list. I posted a message "Problem with updates at end of installation", and got a bit, well, pissy at daRcmaTTeR's response to me. On another users tip, I looked back at daRcmaTTeR's posts and see he is not a typical newbie kicker, but very helpful indeed. Though I scan through the collected posts every couple of days, I don't usually take the time to note the sender and had not noticed his history. In hindsight it might not have been clear I ws not asking for updates, only commenting on a part of the installer and asking whether I would be missing anything significant if I blew it off. It may indeed have appeared I was asking why there were no updates for a beta release. Fred -- I've gone to find myself. If you see me first, please ask me to wait until I return. It's time for our medicine. Thank you Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 1024 cylinder limit
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:02:58 +0100 "Peter Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However the PM manual containds dire > warnings about a linux bootable partition needing to be below the 1024 > cylinder (8GB) boundary. > > Is this still a problem with LM 8.2 and if so what would be the best > way round it. That is an out-of-date warning from PM. As long as your BIOS supports that size drive and you were not forced to use EZ-Bios or one of its clones, you will have no problem using lilo in 8.2 to boot. Lilo used to have a 1024 limit but no longer and I do not think that grub has ever had it. Charles -- The wages of sin are high but you get your money's worth. -- Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Off Topic (post to list)
On Thursday 22 Aug 2002 12:30 pm, you wrote: > I must apologise to everyone on this list. After i replied to a couple of > postings i realised i'd messed up! Posted at TOP not Bottom. Purely > unintentional and please forgive me. Any flame gracefully accepted at this > point. Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I doubt if you'll get flames here. But seriously, though, it can be a lot harder to follow what's happening if some posts are above and some below on a thread - particularly since they don't always arrive in your mailbox in the right order, so you are reading quotes to follow the arguments. Cheers Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] 1024 cylinder limit
Many thanks to everyone who replied to my question about swap file sizes. Now I have another concern. I have an 80GB hard drive with one partition containing windows XP and formatted NTFS. I plan to use Partitionmagic 7.0 to shrink this partition to 40GB thus leaving me 40GB to install LM 8.2. However the PM manual containds dire warnings about a linux bootable partition needing to be below the 1024 cylinder (8GB) boundary. Is this still a problem with LM 8.2 and if so what would be the best way round it. Note my previous nmachine only had a 8GB disk and so I had no problems with Win 98 and LM 8.0. Thanks in advance petew Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What version (distro?) to run on my new box?
My vote would be to use Mandrake 8.2 download edition. Thanks to a screwup in the building of the Powerpacks, there are actually fewer applications on it, than on the download edition. (Apart from the commercial applications which apart from SO6 are not usually of much interest) A download edition plus a Club membership will give you more than a Powerpack, and access to lots of recent additions. As for 9.0. Well it is not proven yet. There are some big changes in 9.0 and we do not yet know if it is as robust as 8.2. As for other distros, there are lots of good ones. Some may like your hardware better than others. derek On Thursday 22 Aug 2002 5:52 am, Isaac Curtis wrote: > All right folks, > > I'm about to order all the parts for my new machine, and I'm going to order > the OS along with it. What do I order? I'm open to anything. I would be > very interested in beginning a Debian learning curve, so that's one > possibility. If I stay with Mandrake (which is where I'm leaning heavily) I > am *VERY* curious which version you all think I should use. I have heard of > various problems in each release, and being bug-free is a major issue for > me. I'll be giving L-M a hefty chunk of money (I'm thinking PowerPack, > unless one of you recommends otherwise) so I don't want to have to put up > with any bullshit. I'm more than happy (in fact I prefer) to configure > everything from the command line, but I just want to find a version that > maximizes hardware support, stability, and usability. > > I'm always psyched to learn more about Linux, but I don't consider spending > eight hours online trying to patch up lousy AC '97 audio support part of my > learning process. With the amount of time I had to spend downloading > software upgrades to make 7.2 work I may as well have learned to program > and written all the drivers myself. In all honesty, though, I love > Mandrake. The frustrations are welcome in the early stages, but at this > point I would like to be spending more time learning how to do things > cleanly and concisely from the command line now that I feel I am > progressing to a certain level of proficiency (3 on a 1-10 scale IMO... but > that's not bad for Linux). I want to begin to develop my skills as a Linux > user without being hampered by the fact that EveryBuddy won't display who's > actually online, that KMail won't thread messages, or that some automated > tool or other has tinkered with my routing tables without permission again. > I don't mind (in fact I enjoy) tackling one or two of these little projects > a week, but right now I feel like there are so many little projects that > they have become obstacles to my learning process. > > So, to trim all of this down to one neat little sentence: I'm looking for a > Linux distribtion, preferably Mandrake, that will provide a moderately > bug-free existence while allowing me to flesh out my rudimentary command > line skills in a way that will allow me to gain an inter-distributionary > (yes, I know I made that up) understanding of Linux. I've got the money to > blow on a PowerPack if that's necessary, and a broadband connection to > download freebies if it's not. Where do I go from here? > > Many thanks, > Isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Off Topic (post to list)
I must apologise to everyone on this list. After i replied to a couple of postings i realised i'd messed up! Posted at TOP not Bottom. Purely unintentional and please forgive me. Any flame gracefully accepted at this point. Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 21/08/02 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 installation, and desktop
No offence intended , but how did you begin the installation and set-up? Some background along with error messages will help people to advise in a better fashion. If possible , post soon while it's fresh in your mind. Actually , i know just how you feel , i've been there with many others , but we will help where we can! Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "et" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] 8.2 installation, and desktop > On Thursday 22 August 2002 01:06 am, you wrote: > > (response below quote) > Bottom posting is considered "good form" here, thanks. > > On Wednesday 21 August 2002 23:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Hello, I am a linux newbie, and I am very interested in learning linux. > > > > I > welcome > > > downloaded Linux 8.2, and i tried installing it but it has about 5 errors > > > while installing the packages. > Ooops, always a good idea (at least in Linux) to make a note of what errors > say, it helps a lot in troubleshooting. we all know how "arcane" the error > message given by M$winblows products, but in Linux, the messsages really mean > something. next time BTW, have you considered re-installing and this time > trying the "expert" (as opposed to "recomended", it is kinda like the > difference between a "normal" and a "custom" software install) > > > > Installation went through fine, and the > > > packages didnt seem to cause much effect. When I rebooted my PC after > > > installing linux 8.2, the boot screen came up in which i chose linux (by > > > the way i have linux and windows on a dual boot. Windows 20 gigs, and > > > linux 18 gigs). I was on mandrakes tutorial from the site, and I saw that > > > after installation it started talking about the "first time wizard", and > > > stuff... Which seems to be the linux desktop. When i rebooted. It made me > > > go into the linux console, and i donnot know how to get to the linux-like > > > desktop. It keeps putting me in the dos-like area which someone said was > > > the console. I typed startx as someone instructed me to do from an IRC > > > help channel. It said that the! re was an error... and it didnt run > > > startx. It said errno2, and also had errno3. Directory not found or > > > something. Im not sure whether this is happening because of the > > > installation package errors or something. Anyways I went back to irc help > > > channel, and i stated this problem. They told me that linux would boot > > > into the desktop if my video was ok. I told them i had a nvidia video > > > card, and they told me to update the drivers for it... I donno what to > > > do. Im not sure if its the drivers or not. I am running A 1003 mhz > > > computer (about 1ghz) with AMD athlon processor (T-BIRD). I have 38.9 GB > > > of HDD, and 256MB of RAM. Also, I was wondering if Mandrake 9.0 would be > > > better for me to install... I always like to have the most upgraded > > > version. However im not sure if its buggy... I would love to have 9.0 but > > > i want to make sure i wont have tons of errors.. I know it is in beta > > > right now. If you think Mandrake 9.0 doesnt have many bugs or errors, and > > > it would be a better upgrade t! hen 8.2, please tell me. I have alot of > > > things I would like information on, so I would like if a supporter could > > > spend some time to help. I went through some linux tutorials but xtra > > > help is always good. First i need to get out of the console :). Also... I > > > was wondering if i could get AOL to run on linux.. Ok I know AOL > > > Lamers... bla bla bla, but its the only thing i got > > > > > > :(, And please dont laugh at me. I was thinkking WINE, or win4lin could > > > : do > > > > > > the job... Could it? Please help me with the installation process... and > > > how to make everything work correctly. My computer is about 1 year old, > > > and i shouldnt have much problem. Please email me at: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I would appreciate it very much. Ive never used > > > this post thing, so im not sure if this will come out in like a message > > > board, but if it does respond to my email please instead of the post. > > > Once again my email is: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > I would appreciate any help I could get on installing Mandrake linux :) > I ain't the guy to help you with AOL, but a search of this mail list archive > from the last few weeks should help, there was some links on how to get some > AOL stuff running, but AOL is A WInders Program. I bet you you could get > Earthlink.net damn near every point of presence that AOL has tho. > > > > > There are some whack issues with nVidia cards, at least there were on > > earlier versions. When you installed, did you do a video/monitor test? I > > know it prompts you for those in 7.2 and 8.0, but I'm still a year behind > > the curve so I haven't seen any of this bleeding-edge 8.2 gadgetry (aka I > > am too poor and on too slow of a conne
Re: [newbie]Single Network Firewall, Xwindow Configuration Problem
On Thursday 22 August 2002 04:59 am, you wrote: > Not sure where to ask this (Don't think there's an SNF Mail list and if > there is, its hidden in some cave somewhere run by a Yogi who subsists > on rice & fish with my luck). > > Anyway... To the point of this email... or blunt end...whichever you > prefer. > > I've successfully setup the SNF Distro that Mandrake (Kindly? Cruelly?) > has made available to D/L. (As an aside, get Rid of that link for the > HTML Installation guide! Its NOT THERE! Talk about a tease! > sheesh...). Ahem, as i was saying, I d/led it & got it installed. > Teensy problem: I get the error: X-window settings error, X-window > respawning too fast. Disabling X for 5 mins. (ARGH!?) > > OK so...Off to the web I go! (Sung to the tune of The Wizard of Oz)... > > Found the error: My stupid video card isn't properly enabled somehow > (read: It needs help & counselling...but i'm too stupid to provide hand > holding). So, what to do? Well on a Normal Linux distro from MDK I > just do a "XFDrake -expert" command on the CLI. Now, being a good > little Penguin-in-training, I went to invoke this heartfelt command. > > ERROR: Command not found! IIRC... this is becuase SNF is designed to be a no monitor needed box, and you MUST configure it via a web browser from inside the lan, connected to 192.168.0.1 > BLARGH!? WTF? > > OK fine, theres gotta be another way... No Xsetup, Diskdrake, setup, > X-anything!? > > ACK!? Couldn't find help files either!... hm... so... I'm stranded...? > > So... what to do? I d/led the PDF File (Useless futile gesture as that > was)...hoping it would have something in it. Nada. > > So... I turn to you dear Warriors of Linux! Help a fellow Amazonian to > overcome this heartbreaking & Difficult period of Non-Guiness! > > If the points not been made clear enough, I want a GUI! Damnit! Call > me a wimp, but I need it to set this shit up & the command line ain't > helping me. :) > > Ty much Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 8.2 installation, and desktop
On Thursday 22 August 2002 01:06 am, you wrote: > (response below quote) Bottom posting is considered "good form" here, thanks. > On Wednesday 21 August 2002 23:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hello, I am a linux newbie, and I am very interested in learning linux. > > > I welcome > > downloaded Linux 8.2, and i tried installing it but it has about 5 errors > > while installing the packages. Ooops, always a good idea (at least in Linux) to make a note of what errors say, it helps a lot in troubleshooting. we all know how "arcane" the error message given by M$winblows products, but in Linux, the messsages really mean something. next time BTW, have you considered re-installing and this time trying the "expert" (as opposed to "recomended", it is kinda like the difference between a "normal" and a "custom" software install) > > Installation went through fine, and the > > packages didnt seem to cause much effect. When I rebooted my PC after > > installing linux 8.2, the boot screen came up in which i chose linux (by > > the way i have linux and windows on a dual boot. Windows 20 gigs, and > > linux 18 gigs). I was on mandrakes tutorial from the site, and I saw that > > after installation it started talking about the "first time wizard", and > > stuff... Which seems to be the linux desktop. When i rebooted. It made me > > go into the linux console, and i donnot know how to get to the linux-like > > desktop. It keeps putting me in the dos-like area which someone said was > > the console. I typed startx as someone instructed me to do from an IRC > > help channel. It said that the! re was an error... and it didnt run > > startx. It said errno2, and also had errno3. Directory not found or > > something. Im not sure whether this is happening because of the > > installation package errors or something. Anyways I went back to irc help > > channel, and i stated this problem. They told me that linux would boot > > into the desktop if my video was ok. I told them i had a nvidia video > > card, and they told me to update the drivers for it... I donno what to > > do. Im not sure if its the drivers or not. I am running A 1003 mhz > > computer (about 1ghz) with AMD athlon processor (T-BIRD). I have 38.9 GB > > of HDD, and 256MB of RAM. Also, I was wondering if Mandrake 9.0 would be > > better for me to install... I always like to have the most upgraded > > version. However im not sure if its buggy... I would love to have 9.0 but > > i want to make sure i wont have tons of errors.. I know it is in beta > > right now. If you think Mandrake 9.0 doesnt have many bugs or errors, and > > it would be a better upgrade t! hen 8.2, please tell me. I have alot of > > things I would like information on, so I would like if a supporter could > > spend some time to help. I went through some linux tutorials but xtra > > help is always good. First i need to get out of the console :). Also... I > > was wondering if i could get AOL to run on linux.. Ok I know AOL > > Lamers... bla bla bla, but its the only thing i got > > > > :(, And please dont laugh at me. I was thinkking WINE, or win4lin could > > : do > > > > the job... Could it? Please help me with the installation process... and > > how to make everything work correctly. My computer is about 1 year old, > > and i shouldnt have much problem. Please email me at: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] as I would appreciate it very much. Ive never used > > this post thing, so im not sure if this will come out in like a message > > board, but if it does respond to my email please instead of the post. > > Once again my email is: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I would appreciate any help I could get on installing Mandrake linux :) I ain't the guy to help you with AOL, but a search of this mail list archive from the last few weeks should help, there was some links on how to get some AOL stuff running, but AOL is A WInders Program. I bet you you could get Earthlink.net damn near every point of presence that AOL has tho. > There are some whack issues with nVidia cards, at least there were on > earlier versions. When you installed, did you do a video/monitor test? I > know it prompts you for those in 7.2 and 8.0, but I'm still a year behind > the curve so I haven't seen any of this bleeding-edge 8.2 gadgetry (aka I > am too poor and on too slow of a connection to upgrade... lol). Anyway, if > you didnt do that test you should pop the startup CDs in again, skip right > to the video test step and make sure you get your video card and monitor > configured properly. It will be very, very easy with a new system and it > might solve your problem entirely. try (as root,) Fxdrake and select you correct card > Peace, > Isaac Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What version (distro?) to run on my new box?
Unless i'm mistaken , all distros revolce around the kernel capabilities. Therefore whichever distro you use is O.K. Personally i use Mandrake (the first distro i installed sucessfully!) However Slackware and Debian are two alternatives that are supposedly better for somethings as long as you are prepared to learn. The final choice is yours , but if you're already using Mandrake - continue and use more command line where possible might be as wise as anything. Any comments anyone? Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Isaac Curtis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 5:52 AM Subject: [newbie] What version (distro?) to run on my new box? > All right folks, > > I'm about to order all the parts for my new machine, and I'm going to order > the OS along with it. What do I order? I'm open to anything. I would be very > interested in beginning a Debian learning curve, so that's one possibility. > If I stay with Mandrake (which is where I'm leaning heavily) I am *VERY* > curious which version you all think I should use. I have heard of various > problems in each release, and being bug-free is a major issue for me. I'll be > giving L-M a hefty chunk of money (I'm thinking PowerPack, unless one of you > recommends otherwise) so I don't want to have to put up with any bullshit. > I'm more than happy (in fact I prefer) to configure everything from the > command line, but I just want to find a version that maximizes hardware > support, stability, and usability. > > I'm always psyched to learn more about Linux, but I don't consider spending > eight hours online trying to patch up lousy AC '97 audio support part of my > learning process. With the amount of time I had to spend downloading software > upgrades to make 7.2 work I may as well have learned to program and written > all the drivers myself. In all honesty, though, I love Mandrake. The > frustrations are welcome in the early stages, but at this point I would like > to be spending more time learning how to do things cleanly and concisely from > the command line now that I feel I am progressing to a certain level of > proficiency (3 on a 1-10 scale IMO... but that's not bad for Linux). I want > to begin to develop my skills as a Linux user without being hampered by the > fact that EveryBuddy won't display who's actually online, that KMail won't > thread messages, or that some automated tool or other has tinkered with my > routing tables without permission again. I don't mind (in fact I enjoy) > tackling one or two of these little projects a week, but right now I feel > like there are so many little projects that they have become obstacles to my > learning process. > > So, to trim all of this down to one neat little sentence: I'm looking for a > Linux distribtion, preferably Mandrake, that will provide a moderately > bug-free existence while allowing me to flesh out my rudimentary command line > skills in a way that will allow me to gain an inter-distributionary (yes, I > know I made that up) understanding of Linux. I've got the money to blow on a > PowerPack if that's necessary, and a broadband connection to download > freebies if it's not. Where do I go from here? > > Many thanks, > Isaac > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 21/08/02 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]Single Network Firewall, Xwindow Configuration Problem
Dear Femme; All is well! Do not dispair! You must have missed the part - during the last page or two of the install regarding how to administer your firewall. Enhance your calm! Open a browser on a different machine, and point it to the IP address which you gave to SNF for your internal network card . For example; If your two network cards are configured properly by SNF, you will have two distinct addresses - 1 per card. They should be configured as eth0, and eth1. Since eth0 is usually configured as your public interface, your firewall will not allow you to connect to it by default, although you can modify this once you're in the GUI. That leaves eth1. If the IP Address of eth1 is 192.168.1.0, then you will point your browser to https://192.168.1.0:8443 . Notice the colon right between the IP address and the port number. 8443 is the default port for SNF, and usually works quite nicely. It is important to note that you must modify the IP address that you enter into your browser to match the IP address that you assigned to eth1 when you were installing. As a default, SNF also allows you to login directly on the machine with an ANSI GUI (Yuch! Ptewey!) to modify your settings, but it's quite a tedious way to get the job done. One more thing,...I would like to suggest that you re-install. But this time, when the install gives you a choice to install (Press Enter) or F1 (for other install options), select F1. At the prompt which follows, type the word "expert" and then press enter. You will get the same install GUI you're used to, but your options will be dramatically different! You will have the option to choose many of the packages which you do or don't want, which is something you don't get normally. If you do a conventional install (probably what you did) , the result will be a bunch of services running on SNF which you probably don't want like SMTP, and Telnet! Remember, use a different PC which is already a part of your network to connect to SNF. Be advised that it's not a very secure idea to run X on SNF, and that's why it's not installed by default. As a matter of fact, I'm not even sure that they include any desktop managers in it. Your GUI will be browser-based from other PC's, and will provide you a customized version of Webmin with Wizards to perform most functions, and an SSH terminal as well. Just make sure that you've got Java enabled on your browser. Hope this helps! If not, I suggest Valium! Grin! Grin! Lanman - Original Message - From: "FemmeFatale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 4:59 AM Subject: Re: [newbie]Single Network Firewall, Xwindow Configuration Problem > Not sure where to ask this (Don't think there's an SNF Mail list and if > there is, its hidden in some cave somewhere run by a Yogi who subsists > on rice & fish with my luck). > > Anyway... To the point of this email... or blunt end...whichever you > prefer. > > I've successfully setup the SNF Distro that Mandrake (Kindly? Cruelly?) > has made available to D/L. (As an aside, get Rid of that link for the > HTML Installation guide! Its NOT THERE! Talk about a tease! > sheesh...). Ahem, as i was saying, I d/led it & got it installed. > Teensy problem: I get the error: X-window settings error, X-window > respawning too fast. Disabling X for 5 mins. (ARGH!?) > > OK so...Off to the web I go! (Sung to the tune of The Wizard of Oz)... > > Found the error: My stupid video card isn't properly enabled somehow > (read: It needs help & counselling...but i'm too stupid to provide hand > holding). So, what to do? Well on a Normal Linux distro from MDK I > just do a "XFDrake -expert" command on the CLI. Now, being a good > little Penguin-in-training, I went to invoke this heartfelt command. > > ERROR: Command not found! > > BLARGH!? WTF? > > OK fine, theres gotta be another way... No Xsetup, Diskdrake, setup, > X-anything!? > > ACK!? Couldn't find help files either!... hm... so... I'm stranded...? > > So... what to do? I d/led the PDF File (Useless futile gesture as that > was)...hoping it would have something in it. Nada. > > So... I turn to you dear Warriors of Linux! Help a fellow Amazonian to > overcome this heartbreaking & Difficult period of Non-Guiness! > > If the points not been made clear enough, I want a GUI! Damnit! Call > me a wimp, but I need it to set this shit up & the command line ain't > helping me. :) > > Ty much > -- > Femme > > Good Decisions You boss Made: > > "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that > character from Peanuts." > > - Source: Dilbert > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What version (distro?) to run on my new box?
On Thursday 22 Aug 2002 5:52 am, you wrote: > All right folks, > > I'm about to order all the parts for my new machine, and I'm going to order > the OS along with it. What do I order? I'm open to anything. I would be > very interested in beginning a Debian learning curve, so that's one > possibility. If I stay with Mandrake (which is where I'm leaning heavily) I > am *VERY* curious which version you all think I should use. I have heard of > various problems in each release, and being bug-free is a major issue for > me. I'll be giving L-M a hefty chunk of money (I'm thinking PowerPack, > unless one of you recommends otherwise) so I don't want to have to put up > with any bullshit. I'm more than happy (in fact I prefer) to configure > everything from the command line, but I just want to find a version that > maximizes hardware support, stability, and usability. > > I'm always psyched to learn more about Linux, but I don't consider spending > eight hours online trying to patch up lousy AC '97 audio support part of my > learning process. With the amount of time I had to spend downloading > software upgrades to make 7.2 work I may as well have learned to program > and written all the drivers myself. In all honesty, though, I love > Mandrake. The frustrations are welcome in the early stages, but at this > point I would like to be spending more time learning how to do things > cleanly and concisely from the command line now that I feel I am > progressing to a certain level of proficiency (3 on a 1-10 scale IMO... but > that's not bad for Linux). I want to begin to develop my skills as a Linux > user without being hampered by the fact that EveryBuddy won't display who's > actually online, that KMail won't thread messages, or that some automated > tool or other has tinkered with my routing tables without permission again. > I don't mind (in fact I enjoy) tackling one or two of these little projects > a week, but right now I feel like there are so many little projects that > they have become obstacles to my learning process. > > So, to trim all of this down to one neat little sentence: I'm looking for a > Linux distribtion, preferably Mandrake, that will provide a moderately > bug-free existence while allowing me to flesh out my rudimentary command > line skills in a way that will allow me to gain an inter-distributionary > (yes, I know I made that up) understanding of Linux. I've got the money to > blow on a PowerPack if that's necessary, and a broadband connection to > download freebies if it's not. Where do I go from here? > > Many thanks, > Isaac IMHO you have a fundamental problem. Nothing worth while is achieved without a little effort. MS make an OS that - usually - can be running without too much effort, but the corollary is that from that you learn nothing, and when something goes wrong there's nothing you can do about it. If cost is your only reason for linux you will soon get fed up of the learning. If you want more control and to truly learn, then Mandrake is a good distro, and, every bit as important, has a community that will help you learn. Just my opinion, of course. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mounting devices
On Wednesday 21 Aug 2002 11:48 pm, you wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > 1) How can I mount the Datafab card reader? > > > 2) Is the film scanner unusable unless I can find a sane driver for it? > > When I tried to install it with a driver that looked possible I trashed > > my installation, so I don't want to do anything off-the-cuff here. Any > > advice welcome. > > > > It seems there is now a sane driver in alpha release, but I'm a bit > > nervous after the last fiasco. What safeguards can I take before trying > > it? Ideally I'd like to do something like DriveImage. > > > > Anne > > Anne i have some scanned docs on USB Stuff here on my comp if you want > them. May help. If i can I'll dig thru other stuff to find some info > if you can be a little more specific on what you need (IE the connection > type & Stuff). Thanks, Femme. I looked over the docs you pointed me at before, but as I told Brendan, I don't have any sd* entries, so I can't relate what I'm being told to what I have. It may be, of course, that linux is picking up the description direct from the hardware but is unable to do anything with it. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mounting devices
On Wednesday 21 Aug 2002 10:41 pm, you wrote: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:32:21 +0100 > > Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a Canon file scanner which I have not yet been able to access, and > > a USB SmartMedia/CF card reader. Both appear to be recognised, but this > > is as far as I get. > > > > hub.c: USB new device connect on bus2/1/3, assigned device number 7 > > [root@anne-linux anne]# > > > > > > [root@anne-linux anne]# cat /proc/scsi/scsi > > Attached devices: > > Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00 > > Vendor: CANONModel: IX-27025ERev: 1.13 > > Type: Scanner ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > > Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 > > Vendor: MITSUMI Model: CR-48X9TERev: 1.0C > > Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > > Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00 > > Vendor: Datafab Model: USB to CF + SM C Rev: 0017 > > Type: Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02 > > > > 1) How can I mount the Datafab card reader? > > > > 2) Is the film scanner unusable unless I can find a sane driver for it? > > When I tried to install it with a driver that looked possible I trashed > > my installation, so I don't want to do anything off-the-cuff here. Any > > advice welcome. > > > > It seems there is now a sane driver in alpha release, but I'm a bit > > nervous after the last fiasco. What safeguards can I take before trying > > it? Ideally I'd like to do something like DriveImage. > > > > Anne > > I can't answer your other questions, but if you are looking for something > like DriveImage, you might want to take a look at NovaStor's > InstantRecovery product. Basically, it is a bootable linux CD that can > copy your hard drive or any partition(s) on it to another drive or CDR/RW > on the fly. It's quite fast and easy to use, too. Thanks - I'll check it out. > > BTW, I don't normally like buy this types of messages, but since > InstantRecovery is linux based and the readme has a plug for Mandrake, I > figure it is related to the purpose of the list. > > > Joe Understood - but if it makes learning about linux easier because we feel safer then it is well worth the mention. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]Single Network Firewall, Xwindow Configuration Problem
Not sure where to ask this (Don't think there's an SNF Mail list and if there is, its hidden in some cave somewhere run by a Yogi who subsists on rice & fish with my luck). Anyway... To the point of this email... or blunt end...whichever you prefer. I've successfully setup the SNF Distro that Mandrake (Kindly? Cruelly?) has made available to D/L. (As an aside, get Rid of that link for the HTML Installation guide! Its NOT THERE! Talk about a tease! sheesh...). Ahem, as i was saying, I d/led it & got it installed. Teensy problem: I get the error: X-window settings error, X-window respawning too fast. Disabling X for 5 mins. (ARGH!?) OK so...Off to the web I go! (Sung to the tune of The Wizard of Oz)... Found the error: My stupid video card isn't properly enabled somehow (read: It needs help & counselling...but i'm too stupid to provide hand holding). So, what to do? Well on a Normal Linux distro from MDK I just do a "XFDrake -expert" command on the CLI. Now, being a good little Penguin-in-training, I went to invoke this heartfelt command. ERROR: Command not found! BLARGH!? WTF? OK fine, theres gotta be another way... No Xsetup, Diskdrake, setup, X-anything!? ACK!? Couldn't find help files either!... hm... so... I'm stranded...? So... what to do? I d/led the PDF File (Useless futile gesture as that was)...hoping it would have something in it. Nada. So... I turn to you dear Warriors of Linux! Help a fellow Amazonian to overcome this heartbreaking & Difficult period of Non-Guiness! If the points not been made clear enough, I want a GUI! Damnit! Call me a wimp, but I need it to set this shit up & the command line ain't helping me. :) Ty much -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Geometries
Ron Bouwhuis wrote: >--- John Richard Smith ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>I once took the problem up with two harddrive >>manufacturers, as to why >>you get >>two different sizes for the same drive , depending >>upon which machine >>you put it in, >>and indeed why the manufacturers size measurements >>always are greater >>than that >>which your system says there is. >> >>The answer appears to be that indeed there are more >>than one way of >>calculating >>sizes. Apparently , there is no industry wide >>standard, it all depends >>upon the formular >>used to calculate it. Now this explanation may be >>false , but I have >>noticed different >>machines do calculate the size of a known hard >>drive slightly >>differently, which tends to >>suggest that this may be true. At any rate , in the >>absense of a better >>explanation >>I have come to accept it. >> >>John >> >> >> >John, > >Check out >http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html - which >IMHO describes a madness that I hope will never reach >the real world (I mean, really, can you imagine >actually saying "mebibyte" or "gibibyte"???). >However, it does explain one major area of confusion >(and opportunity for deceipt) - namely that for a >drive labelled, say as 20GB, what exactly does the "G" >mean? In the old (real) world of IT, "G" means 2 ** >30. However, to a manufacturer following SI units, >"G" means 10 ** 9, which is a lot smaller! > >Ron. > >__ >Do You Yahoo!? >HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs >http://www.hotjobs.com > > > > > > Oh dear me, what a nightmare. No wonder, it's a mess, just a sample of this carnage:- Once upon a time, computer professionals noticed that 2^10 was very nearly equal to 1000 and started using the SI prefix "kilo" to mean 1024. That worked well enough for a decade or two because everybody who talked kilobytes knew that the term implied 1024 bytes. But, almost overnight a much more numerous "everybody" bought computers, and the trade computer professionals needed to talk to physicists and engineers and even to ordinary people, most of whom know that a kilometer is 1000 meters and a kilogram is 1000 grams. Then data storage for gigabytes, and even terabytes, became practical, and the storage devices were not constructed on binary trees, which meant that, for many practical purposes, binary arithmetic was less convenient than decimal arithmetic. The result is that today "everybody" does not "know" what a megabyte is. When discussing computer memory, most manufacturers use megabyte to mean 2^20 = 1 048 576 bytes, but the manufacturers of computer storage devices usually use the term to mean 1 000 000 bytes. Some designers of local area networks have used megabit per second to mean 1 048 576 bit/s, but all telecommunications engineers use it to mean 10^6 bit/s. And if two definitions of the megabyte are not enough, a third megabyte of 1 024 000 bytes is the megabyte used to format the familiar 90 mm (3 1/2 inch), "1.44 MB" diskette. The confusion is real, as is the potential for incompatibility in standards and in implemented systems. And that is just a sample. So really the whole computer industry needs better standardization, but there is noone around with the authority to set standards maybe ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Upgrading Mozilla
On Thursday 15 Aug 2002 10:18 pm, you wrote: > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Anne Wilson wrote: > > I'm fairly sure my Mozilla got corrupted a while back, as I seem to have > > problems that didn't exist before. Is it possible to d/l 1.0 and use it > > to upgrade the current installation, so that I can keep my settings, > > bookmarks, plugins etc.? > > > > Anne > > Hi Anne, > > It is very possible, however, it is even more likely that your home dir > files are the ones that are corrupt and not the mozilla binary itself. > even more to the point it is very likely it's your preferences.js file > that is hosed. what you can do is save your bookmarks.html and addressbook > file to a disk, as well as any mail and news files you may have, delete > your .mozilla directory and allow mozilla to recreate the directory. > > I would still go ahead and get the 1.0 version since its much better then > the one you're probably using at the moment if in fact it's an older > version before 1.0. OK - I've run the installer, to /usr/local/mozilla, and used menudrake to change the pointer on the menu items, but something's wrong. If I start mozilla as root from /usr/local/mozilla I get the new version, but despite changing the menu entries I get the old version from the menus. I have re-named the .mozilla directory, but I don't know how to start it as a user so that it can re-create my profile. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
