Re: [newbie] vectorlinux? Too much choices

2004-03-06 Thread rhein
Hello,
Thank you for all your answers and now I'm confused with all the 
solutions... Not used to that after all the years with windows ;-)
If I get it wright I can use MDK also with that config... and I have it 
already on cd. (save a lot of download time).
I need a Xwindow program like Kde... If not my wife will kill me :o   
   because it is here computer that I want to modify!
And last of all I'm really a beginner with linux... see all the messages 
I mailed to the list the last weeks!
Thanks
Christophe

Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf wrote:

On Wednesday 03 March 2004 01:40 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 

On Wednesday 03 March 2004 11:31 pm, rhein wrote:
   

Hello,
I'm looking for a light version of linux to run on a
old MMX200 with 64 MB of ram. Is vectorlinux a good
choice for a beginner? Thank you
Christophe
 

Absolutely, but on those specs a Slaclware9.1 would run
acceptably (maybe even faster) too.
Without the heavy weight Windowmanagers like KDE and
Gnome even Mandracke9.1 will run OK  providing there's
not too many unnecessary services running.
Good luck,
HarM
   

Slackware is a better choice. DebianAny version of Linux 
can run fine on the hardware you said, but yes, Slackware 
would be much better. Or Free BSD. If you can install 
Slackware, you can install Free BSD, they look the same and 
act almost exactly a like.
 



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[newbie] Questions with storage devices

2004-03-06 Thread rhein
Hello,
Last night I was looking to create a usr partition using diskdrake under
Mandrake Control Center...Then I could not understand why I have a mnt
hda5 partition called win_d (it shows /r on the file system.
So I went to see my storage devices and there I found this:

Device Type Size MountP Free Full%
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8 ? 6,3GB /home 5,7GB 9,8%
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6 ? 5,8GB / 4,2GB 27%
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5 ? 512,2MB/mnt/win_d 4,2GB 0,2%
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 ? 14,6GB / mnt/ win_c 4,2GB 25,3%
/dev/hda8 ext3 N/A/home 0B N/A
/dev/hda6 ext2 N/A/ 0B N/A
/dev/hda5 vfat N/A/ mnt/win_d 0B N/A
/dev/hda1 vfat N/A/ mnt/win_c 0B N/A
1/ The 4 last devices are not mounted when I click on it. So what is
this?
2/ There is no such D drive on my win partition. I have one big 14,6
GB for windows. Where does it come from??
3/ By the way is the root partition not too big with 5,8 GB and only
27% used? There is a lot of free space and I will not install a lot of
new softs.
4/I would like to shrink my windows drive (starting slowly to remove XP)
is there any trick to do it or can I unmount and resize it in the
control center with no risk?
Thanks for your help
Christophe
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[newbie] Firewall

2004-03-06 Thread rhein
Hello,
I tried to setup a firewall since my notebook will be personal...
I went to mandrake control center and removed the cross in no firewall 
at the Drakfirewall.(I left all the boxes blank... hope this is good so)
Then It asked me if I want to install the shorewall package. I clicked 
ok. I put cd1 like it requested.
And then Mandatory package missing.

I browsed the cd and I found a package called 
/shorewall-1.4.6c-2mdk.noarch.rpm/
If that is the package it is already installed.
So how can I then setup the firewall?
Thank you
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[newbie] SOLVED: sound card problems

2004-03-06 Thread Troy Thomas Hall
I don't know if this will help anyone or not but I just accidently 
solved my sound problems.  I had the same problem with no sound with a 
Cmedia chipset ( 1878?).  I was able to hear audio cd's but nothing 
else.  I double click'd on an mp3 and it opened xmms, which looked as if 
it was playing but nothing came out.  I had previously set kde sound to 
alsa as thats what I was pretty sure was installed but no luck.  So then 
I started digging in xmms preferences ( right click on the x in the top 
left corner ) and discovered under Audio I/O Plugins a Output Plugin 
line which stated OSS DRIVER 1.2.9 libOSS.so there where no other 
options under the arrows, so I went back to KDE sound and changed it to 
Open Sound Server  and VIOLA!!  Aaron Tippin started blasting through 
the speakers.  Hope this helps someone.

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[newbie] Sound card problems

2004-03-06 Thread Troy Thomas Hall
ok, not quite solved.  I have no mpg or mpeg sounds.

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Re: [newbie] Using CD-RW with K3b

2004-03-06 Thread richard barran
Very true, and we could also add that older CD-ROM drives (or hifi CD players) 
can fail to read CD-RW disks completely, no matter what is written on them.
The subject of burning to CD can become very messy very quickly :-(

Le Samedi 6 Mars 2004 00:23, Bryan Phinney a écrit :
 Well, the subject title says Using CD-RW which implies rewriteable CD
 media. So, you can erase the disk, rewrite the file back again, you just
 need to completely transfer all files to the hd, erase and then rewrite.

 However, I was not really referring to rewriting, I was saying that if you
 create a multi-session CD that has 200MB worth of files on it with the CD
 not finalized so that you can create additional sessions, some CD-ROM
 drives can not read the format.  They are expecting a completed TOC that is
 only really created when you finalize the media after all sessions have
 been completed.

 Just an FYI for him to keep in mind in case he was planning on using the
 disk in the meantime.


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Re: [newbie] Need help installing SATA drive!!!(Please help)

2004-03-06 Thread Paul
On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 02:46, DC A wrote:
 Yes I tried 10 but it's taking a long time to load. I donno why thorugh. (I 
 tried to auto allocate 20GB for linux and it's taking more than an hour and 
 still it's formatting) So I donno whether I'll be able to linux on this 
 system. Is there any other linux that support single SATA or any other 
 alternative?
 
 Thanks for reply.
 --AR
 

I'm using Mandrake 9.2 on a SATA drive, but I've never tried booting
from it. I also have a small drive that I have as a boot drive, and from
windows.

I've just downloaded Mandrake 10 and was impressed with the speed it did
download - after I'd changed the upload rate. 2 GB in about 22 hours.

Finally, you'll probably get more responses if you don't upset everyone
- people here tend to get upset if you ignore the long-standing
convention by top-posting.

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Re: [newbie] SOLVED: sound card problems

2004-03-06 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Saturday 06 March 2004 09:11, Troy Thomas Hall wrote:
 I don't know if this will help anyone or not but I just accidently
 solved my sound problems.  I had the same problem with no sound
 with a Cmedia chipset ( 1878?).  I was able to hear audio cd's but
 nothing else.  I double click'd on an mp3 and it opened xmms, which
 looked as if it was playing but nothing came out.  I had previously
 set kde sound to alsa as thats what I was pretty sure was installed
 but no luck.  So then I started digging in xmms preferences ( right
 click on the x in the top left corner ) and discovered under Audio
 I/O Plugins a Output Plugin line which stated OSS DRIVER 1.2.9
 libOSS.so there where no other options under the arrows, so I went
 back to KDE sound and changed it to Open Sound Server  and
 VIOLA!!  Aaron Tippin started blasting through the speakers.  Hope
 this helps someone.

Could you add this to http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/SoUnd 
please?

Anne
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Re: [newbie] Sound card problems

2004-03-06 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Saturday 06 March 2004 09:21, Troy Thomas Hall wrote:
 ok, not quite solved.  I have no mpg or mpeg sounds.

xmms plugins?

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Re: [newbie] Questions with storage devices

2004-03-06 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Saturday 06 March 2004 15:21, rhein wrote:

 2/ There is no such D drive on my win partition. I have one big
 14,6 GB for windows. Where does it come from??

It's small - could this be one of those systems with a hidden restore 
partition?

OTOH, I don't see a swap partition mounted. You didn't format the swap 
partition as fat32 did you?  I'm not sure how that could happen, 
though.

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[newbie] KolourPaint 1.0.1 Seagull

2004-03-06 Thread _nasturtium
Hello,

You might like to try KolourPaint, a really good paint program for KDE. You 
can download Mandrake 9.2 packages at kolourpaint.sf.net.

The pages list all the features, so I won't go over them all here. I just 
want to highlight some of the novel and useful features in KolourPaint:
- Colour Eraser
- Colour Similarility
- Transparency. You can do it on selections, even use it as a colour, plus on 
text! (Use an opaque background and transparent text.)
- Selections that you can undo and redo - rectangular, freeform as well as 
elliptical/circular.
- Shape centring! You can now draw a circle/rectangle with the centre where 
your mouse pointer is by holding Ctrl.
- Autocrop

As I've noted before, there's a lot of other features. The development team 
has obviously done some excellent requirements engineering - even the eraser 
sizes are well thought out.

Of course, I do have to admit I have a small vested interest in KolourPaint - 
so don't take my word for it, download it and try it out! By the way, this is 
an exclusive announcement. The official one hasn't come out yet!

Software this good only gets released once every 28 years.

Regards,
_nasturtium

P.S. There's 2 easter eggs in KolourPaint. Try and find them! (they're in 
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Re: [newbie] OT - IE reject messages

2004-03-06 Thread _nasturtium
Hi,

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 10:09 am, JoeHill wrote:
 On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:05:09 +

 Margot disseminated the following:
  If things carry on as they are currently going, many of those
  aspiring young lawyers at Harvard Law School will one day be
  participating in Darl's spurious lawsuits - now they've seen him in
  action, perhaps they will develop consciences and be working for
  *our* side!

 Hmmm, 'lawyer' and 'conscience' in the same sentence? Doesn't that violate
 some linguistic/grammatical rule?

Merriam-Webster definition of oxymoron:
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionaryva=oxymoron

: a combination of contradictory or incongruous words (as cruel kindness); 
broadly : something (as a concept) that is made up of contradictory or 
incongruous elements

A few popular ones:
honest politician
Microsoft Works
and, according to my English teacher, maths enrichment :-).

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Re: [newbie] New Linux User - Need Help with Sound in New 9.2 Install

2004-03-06 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 06 Mar 2004 01:22, David B. Carter wrote:
 Derek Jennings said:
  The modprobe snd-cs-4236 loads the driver. But it will not load on the
  next
  boot unless you configure /etc/modules.conf. That is what alsaconf is
  supposed to do for you, but for some reason alsaconf is unable to detect
  your
  soundchip.
 
  If you go to
  http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Cirrus+
 Logiccard=CS4236chip=CS4236module=cs4236#modp
 
  You will see an example modules.conf configuration for your driver.
  You could try copying this into your /etc/modules.conf

 I haven't had a chance yet to try your suggestion, but I tried following
 the instructions on the ALSA page a few days ago when I was using RedHat
 9, and I had no luck. Of course, I used the sample config exactly as is. I
 didn't try setting any of the options (port, irq, dma, etc.) because I had
 no idea what to put. Is there any way to determine what IRQ, DMA, etc. the
 card is currently using so that I can specify those values in modules.conf
 when the driver loads?

 Thanks.


Given that your soundchip was not detected on installation, or that alsaconf 
fails to detect it, then I suspect you may may a problem with IRQ conflicts.
If you type 'dmesg' in a terminal you will see all the boot messages. If you 
scroll up you may see some clues.

The command 'cat /proc/interrupts'  will tell you how IRQs are currently 
assigned.

Things that can resolve interrupt problems are :-
1/ Boot with 'noapic'  - In Mandrake Control CentreBootBootloader tick the 
'Force No APIC' button  This fixes a lot of these sorts of problems.

2/ In your BIOS disable any onboard devices you do not intend to use - This 
often causes IRQ lines to be allocated differently.

3/ In your BIOS select PnP Operating System =No

4/ If your BIOS allows manual selection of IRQ lines, try allocating a line. 
If no selection is possible try moving a PCI board to a different slot. 
Sometimes IRQ lines are allocated according to slot number.

If you have your /etc/modules.conf file configured then the driver will load 
if the card is detected during boot. dmesg will document that happening.

HTH

derek

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[newbie] Bittorent download won 't work

2004-03-06 Thread Bart Salien
Hi all ,

After 1/2 a day of trying i still can 't download the new 10.0 iso .

I am behind a NAT router , so i opened ports 6881 = 6889 and 6969 and 7070 , 
tried DMZ , but nothing works .

I always get the following error :

Problem connecting to tracker - HTTP Error 404: Not Found

The ip address used to generate the file mytorrent-myID.torrent is the one 
from my router .

i both tried the gui and commandline version .


Thank ,

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Re: [newbie] Bittorent download won 't work

2004-03-06 Thread et
On Saturday 06 March 2004 07:51 am, Bart Salien wrote:
 Hi all ,

 After 1/2 a day of trying i still can 't download the new 10.0 iso .

 I am behind a NAT router , so i opened ports 6881 = 6889 and 6969 and 7070
 , tried DMZ , but nothing works .

 I always get the following error :

 Problem connecting to tracker - HTTP Error 404: Not Found

 The ip address used to generate the file mytorrent-myID.torrent is the one
 from my router .

 i both tried the gui and commandline version .


 Thank ,

 Bart.
I had to use galeon, I got the same as you with Konq, so try a different 
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Re: [newbie] rpmdrake

2004-03-06 Thread Margot
rhein wrote:
Hello,
I try to use rpmdrake to add a medium (contrib file) and I get this 
error message after a long time of waiting...

Unable to update medium...
Errors:
urpmi database locked
urpmi database locked
retrieve of source hdlist failed
no hdlist file found for medium contrib
problem reading synthesis file of medium contrib
Does it say there is a problem with the ftp server or my computer?
Thanks
Christophe
If your urpmi database is locked, as root navigate to /var/lib/urpmi 
and delete the two files called LOCK and RPMLOCK - then try again.

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Re: [newbie] rpmdrake

2004-03-06 Thread Amichai Rotman
On Saturday 06 March 2004 06:09, rhein wrote:
 Hello,
 I try to use rpmdrake to add a medium (contrib file) and I get this
 error message after a long time of waiting...

 Unable to update medium...
 Errors:
 urpmi database locked
 urpmi database locked
 retrieve of source hdlist failed
 no hdlist file found for medium contrib
 problem reading synthesis file of medium contrib

 Does it say there is a problem with the ftp server or my computer?
 Thanks
 Christophe

Hello Rhein,

It would be helpfull if you include the exact command you are trying to 
run.

In any case, I see the dadabase is locked, which suggests you are 
running another instance of URPMI in the background. Try closing all 
rpm related apps (urpmi, rpmdrake, rpmdrake-remove) and then add the 
desired media, using the console, and urpmi.addmedia.

Good luck,
 
.::.

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Re: [newbie] Bittorent download won 't work

2004-03-06 Thread Bart Salien
On Saturday 06 Mar 2004 11:59, et wrote:
 On Saturday 06 March 2004 07:51 am, Bart Salien wrote:
  Hi all ,
 
  After 1/2 a day of trying i still can 't download the new 10.0 iso .
 
  I am behind a NAT router , so i opened ports 6881 = 6889 and 6969 and
  7070 , tried DMZ , but nothing works .
 
  I always get the following error :
 
  Problem connecting to tracker - HTTP Error 404: Not Found
 
  The ip address used to generate the file mytorrent-myID.torrent is the
  one from my router .
 
  i both tried the gui and commandline version .
 
 
  Thank ,
 
  Bart.

 I had to use galeon, I got the same as you with Konq, so try a different
 browser.


Got it working , had to reboot my pc after editing download.py 

I have limited upload to 2K , but download isn 't going any faster than 1k .

Don 't like leaving ports open for 360 hours .

Greetings ,

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Re: [newbie] Questions with storage devices

2004-03-06 Thread rhein
Hello,
My swap file is hd7 with 494MB and it is different from  this hd5 called 
/mnt/win_d with 525 MB.
When I click on this win_d (hd5) in Konqueror there are 2 directories:
= a system volume information with a file 
_restore{2F3FC359-5C9C-424F-B0EF-325C191C6F2E}
= recycled with a nprotect directory in it.
What shall I do? remove it?
Thanks
Christophe

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2/ There is no such D drive on my win partition. I have one big
14,6 GB for windows. Where does it come from??
   

It's small - could this be one of those systems with a hidden restore 
partition?

OTOH, I don't see a swap partition mounted. You didn't format the swap 
partition as fat32 did you?  I'm not sure how that could happen, 
though.

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Re: [newbie] Bittorent download won 't work

2004-03-06 Thread Glenn
On Saturday 06 March 2004 07:45, Bart Salien wrote:



 Got it working , had to reboot my pc after editing download.py 

 I have limited upload to 2K , but download isn 't going any faster than 1k
 .

 Don 't like leaving ports open for 360 hours .

 Greetings ,

 Bart.

The download speed should increase gradually, if memory serves.


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Re: [newbie] SOLVED: sound card problems

2004-03-06 Thread Troy Thomas Hall
Anne Wilson wrote:

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On Saturday 06 March 2004 09:11, Troy Thomas Hall wrote:
 

I don't know if this will help anyone or not but I just accidently
solved my sound problems.  I had the same problem with no sound
with a Cmedia chipset ( 1878?).  I was able to hear audio cd's but
nothing else.  I double click'd on an mp3 and it opened xmms, which
looked as if it was playing but nothing came out.  I had previously
set kde sound to alsa as thats what I was pretty sure was installed
but no luck.  So then I started digging in xmms preferences ( right
click on the x in the top left corner ) and discovered under Audio
I/O Plugins a Output Plugin line which stated OSS DRIVER 1.2.9
libOSS.so there where no other options under the arrows, so I went
back to KDE sound and changed it to Open Sound Server  and
VIOLA!!  Aaron Tippin started blasting through the speakers.  Hope
this helps someone.
   

Could you add this to http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/SoUnd 
please?

Anne
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Re: [newbie] SOLVED: sound card problems

2004-03-06 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Saturday 06 March 2004 04:16 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
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 On Saturday 06 March 2004 09:11, Troy Thomas Hall wrote:
  I don't know if this will help anyone or not but I just
  accidently solved my sound problems.  I had the same problem
  with no sound with a Cmedia chipset ( 1878?).  I was able to
  hear audio cd's but nothing else.  I double click'd on an mp3
  and it opened xmms, which looked as if it was playing but
  nothing came out.  I had previously set kde sound to alsa as
  thats what I was pretty sure was installed but no luck.  So
  then I started digging in xmms preferences ( right click on
  the x in the top left corner ) and discovered under Audio
  I/O Plugins a Output Plugin line which stated OSS DRIVER
  1.2.9 libOSS.so there where no other options under the
  arrows, so I went back to KDE sound and changed it to Open
  Sound Server  and VIOLA!!  Aaron Tippin started blasting
  through the speakers.  Hope this helps someone.

Actually, you'd probly be better off usin alsa.  Run draksound 
and it'll tell you the default driver for your sound chip. If 
it's somethin 'alsa', then install the 'xmms-alsa' rpm and put 
the sound back to alsa, or auto in kcontrol. 


 Could you add this to
 http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/SoUnd please?

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Re: [newbie] OT - iRiver CD players

2004-03-06 Thread Todd Slater
On Fri, Mar 05, 2004 at 08:50:50PM -0500, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Friday 05 March 2004 07:31 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
  These do not support Ogg Vorbis yet. From tech support:
 
  Currently our CD based players do not support OGG file format.  There is
  no ETA as to when this may be offered.
 
  I have forwarded your request to our Development team for consideration.
 
  Darn, the iMP50 was only $50!
 
 
 http://www.iriver.com/community/notice_view.asp?idx=24page=1mode=Totalstrque=field=1
 
 http://www.iriver.com/company/news_view.asp?idx=368
 -- 
 /g

Proving once again that good help is hard to find! ;-)

According to those pages, then, the cd-based players iMP250+ have the
firmware upgrade, but it's beta and works with oggs encoded up to
168kbs. The player may choke or skip parts if the bit rate exceeds that,
which is possible with VBR encoding.

Maybe the tech support guy responded the way he did since to play oggs
would involve updating the firmware and using a beta product? Anyhow, if
anybody here can report on performance that would be great.

Thanks Greg and Glenn!

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Re: [newbie] OT - iRiver CD players

2004-03-06 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 06 March 2004 09:15 am, Todd Slater wrote:

 Proving once again that good help is hard to find! ;-)

 According to those pages, then, the cd-based players iMP250+ have the
 firmware upgrade, but it's beta and works with oggs encoded up to
 168kbs. The player may choke or skip parts if the bit rate exceeds that,
 which is possible with VBR encoding.

 Maybe the tech support guy responded the way he did since to play oggs
 would involve updating the firmware and using a beta product? Anyhow, if
 anybody here can report on performance that would be great.

I have found the US website is often at least 1 and sometimes 2 firmware revs 
behind the International site.  All the new stuff will show up first on the 
international site, so hang out there.

Anyway, I have been using this firmware with my iMP-350 for the last couple of 
weeks using oggs encoded at 128kbps and the performance is outstanding.  No 
skipping at all.

I did have some problems with my ogg library.  There were a lot of artifacts 
even though the bit rate was within spec.  I think the problem had to do with 
them being encoded with a beta version of oggenc, as they were originally 
ripped and encoded about 18 months ago.  If the decoder in the firmware is 
written very efficiently to fit in the limited flash rom and is based on the 
current spec, then it probably cannot deal with the small differences in the 
ogg files made with older versions of the encoder.  The software decoders in 
the media players probably have some code to correct for this since their 
memory footprint is not so limited.  I re-encoding the same disks with the 
oggenc in Mandrake 10 and it eliminated the problem.  

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[newbie] ML 10.0 problems

2004-03-06 Thread Dennis Myers
Hi all, I have the 5 CD set of 10.0 and it is not playing nicely with my comp. 
This is the first time of all the releases that I have had such a mess.  I 
have two choices on boot. the 2.4.xx kernel or the 2.6.xx kernel. Both go 
through the boot up fine but 2.6.xx ends with just a blank screen and no 
keyboard action. 
2.4.xx loads up and runs but apps like OO.org just kind of hang with 
transparent screens.  I continue to explore. But for now this looks like a 
PITA. Anyone getting better results?
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Re: [newbie] OT - iRiver CD players

2004-03-06 Thread Todd Slater
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 10:37:38AM -0500, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Saturday 06 March 2004 09:15 am, Todd Slater wrote:
 
  Proving once again that good help is hard to find! ;-)
 
  According to those pages, then, the cd-based players iMP250+ have the
  firmware upgrade, but it's beta and works with oggs encoded up to
  168kbs. The player may choke or skip parts if the bit rate exceeds that,
  which is possible with VBR encoding.
 
  Maybe the tech support guy responded the way he did since to play oggs
  would involve updating the firmware and using a beta product? Anyhow, if
  anybody here can report on performance that would be great.
 
 I have found the US website is often at least 1 and sometimes 2 firmware revs 
 behind the International site.  All the new stuff will show up first on the 
 international site, so hang out there.
 
 Anyway, I have been using this firmware with my iMP-350 for the last couple of 
 weeks using oggs encoded at 128kbps and the performance is outstanding.  No 
 skipping at all.
 
 I did have some problems with my ogg library.  There were a lot of artifacts 
 even though the bit rate was within spec.  I think the problem had to do with 
 them being encoded with a beta version of oggenc, as they were originally 
 ripped and encoded about 18 months ago.  If the decoder in the firmware is 
 written very efficiently to fit in the limited flash rom and is based on the 
 current spec, then it probably cannot deal with the small differences in the 
 ogg files made with older versions of the encoder.  The software decoders in 
 the media players probably have some code to correct for this since their 
 memory footprint is not so limited.  I re-encoding the same disks with the 
 oggenc in Mandrake 10 and it eliminated the problem.  
 
 HTH
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Greg, do you encode by specifying bitrate or quality level? I typically
encode at as low as -q 3 to save disc space (playing oggs on a Zaurus
using CF), which reports a nominal bitrate of 112. Just wondering if
you've found a good -q level for your purposes on the iMP-350

Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] New Linux User - Need Help with Sound in New 9.2 Install

2004-03-06 Thread Mike Adolf
On Friday 05 March 2004 08:23 pm, David B. Carter wrote:
 Mike Adolf said:
  I have not read all the correspondence on this problem, so I may be
  suggesting
  something already tried.  I also have the same sound system as you. For a
  long time I used 4236 driver (on MDK 91) and I could play CDs but nothing
  else. Once after booting I ran 'dmesg' to see any boot messages. When I
  booted with a failed driver (ie 46xx) the message suggested I try 4232. I
  did
  and everything is much better. xmms works, and kbootle plays DVDs with
  audio.
  I also get KDE startup and logoff sound. Try using harddrake to set this
  driver.

 That's great! I'll give it a try as soon as I get a chance. Did you run
 alsaconf to autodetect the card using that driver? Or did you just
 manually configure it and it worked?

 I probably won't get a chance to try it tonight, and I'm going to be out
 of town tomorrow, but I'll report back as soon as I try it.

 Thanks.

I did not do anything with alsa at the time I changed to 4232 using harddrake.  
But, I may have worked (played) with alsa in earlier attempts on sound. Can't 
remember.

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Re: [newbie] Questions with storage devices

2004-03-06 Thread Anne Wilson
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On Saturday 06 March 2004 21:01, rhein wrote:
 Hello,
 My swap file is hd7 with 494MB and it is different from  this hd5
 called /mnt/win_d with 525 MB.
 When I click on this win_d (hd5) in Konqueror there are 2
 directories: = a system volume information with a file
 _restore{2F3FC359-5C9C-424F-B0EF-325C191C6F2E}
 = recycled with a nprotect directory in it.
 What shall I do? remove it?
 Thanks
 Christophe

That sounds like the hidden restore partition I mentioned - the sort 
that compaq have used for a long time and more oems are using now 
with XP.  I'd leave it alone.  Just don't have any mount point 
specified in your fstab, and ignore it.  You don't need the space, I 
think.

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Re: [newbie] OT - iRiver CD players

2004-03-06 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 06 March 2004 11:03 am, Todd Slater wrote:
 Greg, do you encode by specifying bitrate or quality level? I typically
 encode at as low as -q 3 to save disc space (playing oggs on a Zaurus
 using CF), which reports a nominal bitrate of 112. Just wondering if
 you've found a good -q level for your purposes on the iMP-350

I don't normally use the -q levels, but instead set a bitrate.  I usually use 
grip as the front-end for my encoding projects and you specify the actual 
bitrate.  I would think 112 is pretty close to the 128 that I use and would 
sound fine.
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Re: [newbie] problems with Nvidia video card and its driver

2004-03-06 Thread Philip Cronje
Hi Juan

Firstly, the driver you have is old. The newest driver is version 1.0.5336. 
Just so you know.

In your XF86Config-4, you have the following lines:
 Section Device
 Identifier device1
 Driver vesa
 Option DPMS
 EndSection
That driver line there has to be set to nvidia. I can't say I understand why 
you have NVIDIA driver lines in your logfile if you're using the VESA driver, 
but anyway - that's one possible problem.

Give it a spin, send word of the results.


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[newbie] Spamassassin CPAN Question

2004-03-06 Thread Chris
I installed spamassassin 2.63 a few weeks ago via CPAN leaving the old 2.41 
intact.  Looking at the CPAN install log I can't seem to decipher where the 
newer version has been installed.  Any help would be appreciated.

Chris

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Re: Linux vs Windos WAS : [newbie] Re: Using i486s with Linux

2004-03-06 Thread David E. Fox
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:11:27 -0500
Allen/gore/SlackWareWolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Now if only HP would sell desktops and laptops running 
 HP-UX :) I can get Linux and install it, hell this is an HP 

Why? :)

 Another problem these hardware makers have is  using 
 integrated hardwareFor Goodness sakes I absolutly 

That's why I put together systems from the ground up. My current box (3
yrs old), athlon 1ghz Asus motherboard, 256 megs ram, sb live, matrox
millenium II video, etc. All in a nice blue case w/3 fans (not including
the m/b  cpu fans). Solid as a rock. The rest of the things, hd and
such, just migrated from my even older system, which was a p/100 ca
1996.

 We Are 138
 http://www.suse.com
 http://www.slackware.org
 http://www.bsd.org
 http://www.daemonnews.org/
 http://www.cannibalholocaust.net
 http://www.misfits.com
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Re: [newbie] Spamassassin CPAN Question

2004-03-06 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Saturday 06 March 2004 12:04 pm, Chris wrote:
 I installed spamassassin 2.63 a few weeks ago via CPAN leaving the old 2.41
 intact.  Looking at the CPAN install log I can't seem to decipher where the
 newer version has been installed.  Any help would be appreciated.

I am pretty sure that installing SpamAssassin via CPAN will remove the old 
version.  I don't think that you can have more than one version of SA running 
unless you are installing and running it as a user out of your home directory 
and the default installations of SA don't run like that.
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Re: [newbie] Questions with storage devices

2004-03-06 Thread rhein
Ok
Thanks for the tip
Christophe
Anne Wilson wrote:

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Hello,
My swap file is hd7 with 494MB and it is different from  this hd5
called /mnt/win_d with 525 MB.
When I click on this win_d (hd5) in Konqueror there are 2
directories: = a system volume information with a file
_restore{2F3FC359-5C9C-424F-B0EF-325C191C6F2E}
= recycled with a nprotect directory in it.
What shall I do? remove it?
Thanks
Christophe
   

That sounds like the hidden restore partition I mentioned - the sort 
that compaq have used for a long time and more oems are using now 
with XP.  I'd leave it alone.  Just don't have any mount point 
specified in your fstab, and ignore it.  You don't need the space, I 
think.

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[newbie] 'URPMI auto-select' while logged in to KDE?

2004-03-06 Thread Thinker
I am following the advice given by Derek Jennings for updating 10.0rc1 
to full 10.0 release status.

My question, before I 'urpmi --auto-select' is this..

I am currently logged in to KDE and I am sure several other things are 
running. Should I get out of KDE and stop what services I can BEFORE I 
attempt to update everything?

What is the safest environment to be in when updating?

Thanks,

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Re: [newbie] 10.0 Community available to club members...

2004-03-06 Thread David E. Fox
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:37:50 -0700
Glenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 IIRC, wait three weeks and you, too, can download the 3-ISO set.  Just
 one of the benefits of club membership.  Look at it this way, once
 it's spread more 

Or, don't wait at all, if you've had access to the Cooker repository via
urpmi for the last month or so :).

Are there bits on the 4/5 cd's that aren't in cooker main and contrib?


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[newbie] Problem with sharing ADSL on mdk 10

2004-03-06 Thread Klemens Arro
Hi,

This is actually my first post ever to any mailing list :-S
So here is my problem, I use Mandrake 10.0 (ftp/coocer). I am sharing my 
ADSL (pppoe), I configured it with drakeconnect and here are results 
from syslog:

Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall: Loading /usr/share/shorewall/functions...
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall: Processing /etc/shorewall/params ...
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall: Processing 
/etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf...
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall: Notice:  The 'check' command is 
unsupported and problem
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:  reports complaining about 
errors that it didn't catch
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:  will not be accepted
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall: Shorewall has detected the following 
iptables/netfilter capabilities:
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:NAT: Available
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Packet Mangling: Available
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Multi-port Match: Available
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Connection Tracking Match: Available
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall: Verifying Configuration...
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall: Loading Modules...
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall: Determining Zones...
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Zones: net loc
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall: Validating interfaces file...
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall: Validating hosts file...
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall: Determining Hosts in Zones...
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Net Zone: ppp+:0.0.0.0/0
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Local Zone: eth1:0.0.0.0/0
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall: Validating policy file...
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Policy for loc to net is ACCEPT 
using chain loc2net
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Policy for fw to net is ACCEPT 
using chain fw2net
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Policy for net to loc is DROP using 
chain net2all
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Policy for net to fw is DROP using 
chain net2all
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Policy for loc to fw is REJECT 
using chain all2all
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Policy for fw to loc is REJECT 
using chain all2all
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall: Validating rules file...
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Rule ACCEPT net fw udp 137,138,139 
- checked.
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Rule ACCEPT net fw tcp 137,138,139 
- checked.
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Rule ACCEPT loc fw udp 137,138,139 
- checked.
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Rule ACCEPT loc fw tcp 137,138,139 
- checked.
Mar  6 19:16:24 nolife shorewall:Error: Undefined Client Zone in 
rule REDIRECT masq 3128 tcp www -
Mar  6 19:16:25 nolife rc: shorewall käivitamine:  failed
Mar  6 19:16:25 nolife service_harddrake[956]: ### Program is starting ###
Mar  6 19:16:26 nolife modprobe: FATAL: Module ide-probe-mod not found.
Mar  6 19:16:26 nolife modprobe: FATAL: Module ide-disk not found.
Mar  6 19:16:26 nolife service_harddrake[956]: running: /sbin/modprobe hid

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Re: [newbie] Spamassassin CPAN Question

2004-03-06 Thread Chris
On Saturday 06 March 2004 12:32 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote:
 On Saturday 06 March 2004 12:04 pm, Chris wrote:
  I installed spamassassin 2.63 a few weeks ago via CPAN leaving the old
  2.41 intact.  Looking at the CPAN install log I can't seem to decipher
  where the newer version has been installed.  Any help would be
  appreciated.

 I am pretty sure that installing SpamAssassin via CPAN will remove the
 old version.  I don't think that you can have more than one version of SA
 running unless you are installing and running it as a user out of your
 home directory and the default installations of SA don't run like that.

I know that spamc/spamd have been replaced,  as I remember from a previous 
mail you replied to me:

 CPAN has the actual binary files but not stuff like the init scripts.  I
 am pretty sure that you need the RPM for that.  I have never uninstalled
 the RPM's when I have upgraded and it has never caused me any problems. 
 Since the files are all stored in the same directory structure, I am
 pretty sure that the spamd/spamc binary applications have been replaced.

I was just wondering where the files were placed when upgrading via CPAN.  
I've also noticed that my syslog file is huge now with spamassassin 
running, its 1.3gb in size.  I can see I'm going to have to go into webmin 
and change it from weekly to daily for that log.  

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Re: [newbie] 'URPMI auto-select' while logged in to KDE?

2004-03-06 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 06 March 2004 04:02 pm, Thinker wrote:
 I am following the advice given by Derek Jennings for updating 10.0rc1
 to full 10.0 release status.

 My question, before I 'urpmi --auto-select' is this..

 I am currently logged in to KDE and I am sure several other things are
 running. Should I get out of KDE and stop what services I can BEFORE I
 attempt to update everything?

 What is the safest environment to be in when updating?

I do it in runlevel 5 all the time from the command line.  Log out of KDE and 
then when you see th egraphical login greeter, hit ctrl-alt-F1 to get to a 
console and do your urpmi --auto-select from there.  When done, hit alt-F7 to 
get back to the greeter.  Restart the xserver and then login.
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Re: [newbie] 'URPMI auto-select' while logged in to KDE?

2004-03-06 Thread Derek Jennings
On Saturday 06 Mar 2004 21:02, Thinker wrote:
 I am following the advice given by Derek Jennings for updating 10.0rc1
 to full 10.0 release status.

 My question, before I 'urpmi --auto-select' is this..

 I am currently logged in to KDE and I am sure several other things are
 running. Should I get out of KDE and stop what services I can BEFORE I
 attempt to update everything?

 What is the safest environment to be in when updating?

 Thanks,

 -=Thinker

Well I do it while logged into KDE, and without stopping any services.
YMMV

If you are worried then do a backup before proceeding.

Note: If there is a preexisting config file in /etc which conflicts with the 
config file from a new package the old config file will be left in place and 
the new one will be suffixed .rpmnew

You should review these files after install is complete to see if there is 
anything new which needs configuring.


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Re: [newbie] making 10.0rc1 into 10.0 release via cooker.

2004-03-06 Thread David E. Fox
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:52:46 -0500
Thinker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 So.. you are saying that I can reinstall with the 10.0rc1 disks I made
 
 a few weeks ago and go to the cooker and update that to what is the 

Barring goofs like getting the boot table fubar'd (that has happened to
me in the past), or something else, the answer is a pretty much yes.
There may be packages that are in cooker that aren't automatically going
to be included when you urpmi, since by urpmi'ing you are just updating
to new versions of the files you install.

So with that qualification, I'm at final now, because I've been
urpmi'ing for the last 30 days, if not more. I didn't install RC1
although I made disks - I installed from beta1 I think.

One thing I may do soon is to take RC1 and update everything back to
what it is now on my other partition, which houses ATM 9.2 + cooker
before 10.0 started. And that's because the partition I have 10.0 in now
is a bit small (5 megs) rather than the bigger partition I had 9.2 in.
As a result, I have less space for big /tmp things like audacity runs,
dvd rips and space to install more things.

 to make the update process run smoothly. Any additional guidance on 
 servers and what to and what not to check would be appreciated.

That usually takes experience. I can attach my /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg file
though. Once you put that in place, then you can just do urpmi.update
-a, followed by a urpmi --auto-select and in a while you'll be up to
10.0. If you get 'curl failures' or things like that, just wait a while
and repeat the commands, as 9 times out of 10 it means that the mirror
is clogged with too many users. 

My system ATM is setup to use uninett.no for main, sunet.se for contrib,
and some turkish mirror alongside a french one for plf. I was doing well
with just that for quite a while, and then the french plf was down (I'm
unsure if that's been fixed) so plf stuff comes from turkey now.




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Re: [newbie] Problem with sharing ADSL on mdk 10

2004-03-06 Thread Derek Jennings
On Friday 05 Mar 2004 22:45, Klemens Arro wrote:
SNIP
 
 Thanks, but it didn't help, shorewall started but I still can't share my
 ADSL.
 As for the question, no I didn't put it there, Mandrake Controll Center
 internet connection sharing tool put it there.
 
 Here is /etc/shorewall/interfaces:
 
 #ZONEINTERFACE  BROADCAST   OPTIONS
 net ppp+detect
 loc eth0detect
 #LAST LINE -- ADD YOUR ENTRIES BEFORE THIS ONE -- DO NOT REMOVE
 

 /etc/shorewall/zones:

 #ZONE   DISPLAY COMMENTS
 net Net Internet zone
 loc Local   Local
 #LAST LINE - ADD YOUR ENTRIES ABOVE THIS ONE - DO NOT REMOVE

 /etc/shorewall/policy:

 # THE FOLLOWING POLICY MUST BE LAST
 #
 loc net ACCEPT
 fw  net ACCEPT
 net all DROPinfo
 all all REJECT  info
 #LAST LINE -- DO NOT REMOVE

 /etc/shorewall/rules:

 #   PORTPORT(S)
 DEST LIMIT

Nothing to do with your Internet sharing but you should remove these 2 lines
 ACCEPT  net fw  udp 137,138,139 -
 ACCEPT  net fw  tcp 137,138,139 -

If these lines are present, and you are running Samba (Windows networking), 
then anyone on the internet could access your Samba file shares.


 ACCEPT  loc fw  udp 137,138,139 -

Again nothing to do with your problem, but if you want to add any other 
features to your Linux box you should open up the appropriate port here.
Ports you might like to open are :- 
22 - ssh service
631 - CUPS print server
1 - Webmin configuration
 ACCEPT  loc fw  tcp 137,138,139 -

This line has nothing to do with Internet sharing. I do not know how it got 
in, but I suggest you remove it.
 REDIRECTloc 3128tcp www -


 ACCEPT  fw  net tcp www
 #LAST LINE -- ADD YOUR ENTRIES BEFORE THIS ONE -- DO NOT REMOVE

 /etc/shorewall/masq:


You only need one of these lines. The other can be removed.
 ppp+192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0
 ppp+192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0
I assume your internal ethernet is on the 192.168.0.0 subnet?

None of the comments I have made above would stop shorewall from working, and 
you say that shorewall now starts, so it looks as if Internet sharing is 
actually working.

Your problem may be that you have not configured the Windows clients 
correctly. If you have not started a DHCP server on the Linux box (to 
allocate IP addresses to the Windows machines), then you should be using 
static addressing on the Windows clients. (IP addresses manually configured)
You should also configure the Windows clients to use the Linux box as the 
Default Gateway, and you should enter the IP addresses of your ISPs DNS 
servers in the DNS configuration of your Windows clients.

BTW: By default shorewall inhibits 'ping' so do not be surprised if you cannot 
ping the Linux box from your Windows clients.

HTH

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Re: [newbie] bad superblock

2004-03-06 Thread Josenildo Marques
On Sat, 2004-03-06 at 19:50, Brian Parish wrote:
 On Sun, 2004-03-07 at 08:54, Josenildo Marques wrote:
  Hello !
  
  I installed 9.2 for a friend of mine and everything went smoothly. I
  even updated it completely. His computer had a Windows partition and I
  decided to turn it into a /home partition. I think my mistake was that I
  didn't format it - I was running HardDrake. Now his computer won't start
  because of a superblock error - partition /dev/hda6 is said to have
  superblock errs.
  Is there a way I can (re)format it and create the /home directory again
  ? I was advised to boot in failsafe mode and run e2fsck, but
  unfortunately it didn't work.
  Please, I really need help.
  TIA
 
 You can boot into single use mode using failsafe as you did before, but
 you need to then format the partition.  Running e2fsck won't do that.
 
 Try: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda6
 
 to create the default journalized filesystem on this partition.
 
 HTH
 Brian


Thank you very much, Brian. Everything is OK now.
 
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Re: [newbie] vectorlinux? Too much choices

2004-03-06 Thread deedee
On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 10:15:01, Christophe Rhein wrote:
Hello,
Thank you for all your answers and now I'm confused with all the 
solutions... Not used to that after all the years with windows ;-)
If I get it wright I can use MDK also with that config... and I have it 
already on cd. (save a lot of download time).
I need a Xwindow program like Kde... If not my wife will kill me :o   
because it is here computer that I want to modify!
And last of all I'm really a beginner with linux... see all the messages 
I mailed to the list the last weeks!
Thanks

Until you are comfortable with Linux, using any of the distributions 
besides Mandrake or SuSE may be asking for more work and frustration 
than you bargained for. None of them have as many user-friendly 
tools to help the newbie as Mandrake and SuSE.

Unfortunately, Mandrake 9 and up will not run well using either KDE 
or Gnome on a computer such as you describe. You would have to use a 
different, lightweight desktop manager to access the gui-based 
software.

I use Mandrake 8.2 on a similar setup with full use of KDE and Gnome, 
but not the most current KDE or Gnome. When I have really 
resource-intensive work to do on that system, I use Blackbox which is 
a minimalist desktop manager.

To use the utilities and applications that come with KDE and Gnome, you 
merely have to have KDE and Gnome installed (although there are 
exceptions). You don't have to actually run them, and it is running 
those desktop managers that eats up resources. They consume a lot of 
space and on smaller systems that could also be a problem.

Blackbox doesn't really appeal to many people coming from mswin, 
but IceWM does and it is a lightweight desktop manager which looks 
similar to win95.

Mandrake 8.2 is no longer supported, but if you have a favorite 
discount Linux CD site (e.g., Cheapbytes) in your region of the world, 
you usually can get copies inexpensively on CD (including a CD with 
the advisories and security updates) via the mails.

I haven't checked any mirrors to see if the 8.2 files are still 
available that way.

You can always try your current version of Mandrake on the older 
system with a desktop manager like IceWM to see if it is 
satisfactory (back up your old system so you can restore it in case 
you don't like what happens). Once you get comfortable with Linux, 
there are many ways of dealing with this, but none of them are easy 
for Linux beginners.

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[newbie] boomshakalaka (ignore)

2004-03-06 Thread Floyd Hagen
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[newbie] can't compile a file with -static

2004-03-06 Thread Chungwei Hsiung
Hello everyone..
 I have a simple file and I try to compile it with -static flag, but I 
can't. I use:

gcc -o shellcode -ggdb -static shellcode.c

but I got the following error::

/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
my test file is the following:

#include stdio.h
int main(void) {
 char *name[2];
 name[0] = /bin/sh;
 name[1] = NULL;
 execve(name[0], name, NULL);
 return(0);
}
The reasion I want to compile it with -static is that I want to know how 
the execve is done in assembly level. If anyone can offer some help, 
that is really appreciated.

btw, my MDK is 9.2
and gcc is 3.3.1
best regard
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[newbie] HP scanner with SCSI card

2004-03-06 Thread Owen Berio
My HP 4P scanner worked fine with an Adaptec SCSI card in Windows 2000
I installed the card and attached scanner.
HardDrake recognizes the SCSI card as a Adaptec AHA 7850
ScannerDrake does not find a scanner.
When I manually install the scanner it is listed in list of HP scanners.
After supposed installation the scanner is still not listed as installed.
In the simplest  of terms, can some one please tell me how to install the 
scanner?
Thank You, 
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Re: [newbie] ML 10.0 problems

2004-03-06 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 06 March 2004 08:42 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
 Hi all, I have the 5 CD set of 10.0 and it is not playing nicely with my
 comp. This is the first time of all the releases that I have had such a
 mess.  I have two choices on boot. the 2.4.xx kernel or the 2.6.xx kernel.
 Both go through the boot up fine but 2.6.xx ends with just a blank screen
 and no keyboard action.
 2.4.xx loads up and runs but apps like OO.org just kind of hang with
 transparent screens.  I continue to explore. But for now this looks like a
 PITA. Anyone getting better results?
So, I solved the problem by reinstalling 10.0 with only the 2.6.2 kernel and 
then went in and edited X11 to take out the driver nvidia  and replace 
with nv. So the Nvidia driver that comes with 10.0 is not compatible with 
the 2.6 kernel. I am leary of going and getting the one on the NVIDIA site 
cause of the boot up problems this release is having on my comp. Anyhoo, the 
bugger runs. I hope some of this gets cleared up soon.
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[newbie] dvd plugin for xine

2004-03-06 Thread Robert Beach
I have a 850 AMD cpu
640 megs of ram
GForce TI 4400 AGP
Tyan Motherboard

I have been surfing for the plugins for xine so I can play dvds in Mandrake
9.2
I am still new at this and all the different rpms and tars I find are
confusing.  I'm  not sure which one to use or how many to use.  If I could
just have a good source to download from that works well I could probably
figure out how to install it.
Please help
Robert

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Re: [newbie] New Linux User - Need Help with Sound in New 9.2 Install

2004-03-06 Thread David B. Carter
Mike Adolf said:
 That's great! I'll give it a try as soon as I get a chance. Did you run
 alsaconf to autodetect the card using that driver? Or did you just
 manually configure it and it worked?

 I probably won't get a chance to try it tonight, and I'm going to be out
 of town tomorrow, but I'll report back as soon as I try it.

 Thanks.

 I did not do anything with alsa at the time I changed to 4232 using
 harddrake.
 But, I may have worked (played) with alsa in earlier attempts on sound.
 Can't remember.

Unfortunately, it didn't work for me :( I tried to run alsaconf using the
4232 drivers, and it hung my machine just like the 4236 did. Then I tried
to modeprobe it, and I got a bunch of errors. Then I ran dmesg, and it
said that the soundcard was not detected. At least with the 4236, I can
load it.

Oh well, thanks for the suggestion.

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[newbie] dvd plugin for xine

2004-03-06 Thread Robert Beach
I have a 850 AMD cpu
640 megs of ram
GForce TI 4400 AGP
Tyan Motherboard

I have been surfing for the plugins for xine so I can play dvds in Mandrake
9.2
I am still new at this and all the different rpms and tars I find are
confusing.  I'm  not sure which one to use or how many to use.  If I could
just have a good source to download from that works well I could probably
figure out how to install it.
Please help
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Re: [newbie] New Linux User - Need Help with Sound in New 9.2 Install

2004-03-06 Thread David B. Carter
Derek Jennings said:
 Given that your soundchip was not detected on installation, or that
 alsaconf
 fails to detect it, then I suspect you may may a problem with IRQ
 conflicts.
 If you type 'dmesg' in a terminal you will see all the boot messages. If
 you
 scroll up you may see some clues

Thanks for all the tips, Derek. I just got back into town, and I probably
won't have time to try them out until Monday, but I'm looking forward to
it, and I will report back as soon as I have tried everything.

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Re: [newbie] ML 10.0 problems

2004-03-06 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 06 March 2004 09:18 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
 On Saturday 06 March 2004 08:42 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
  Hi all, I have the 5 CD set of 10.0 and it is not playing nicely with my
  comp. This is the first time of all the releases that I have had such a
  mess.  I have two choices on boot. the 2.4.xx kernel or the 2.6.xx
  kernel. Both go through the boot up fine but 2.6.xx ends with just a
  blank screen and no keyboard action.
  2.4.xx loads up and runs but apps like OO.org just kind of hang with
  transparent screens.  I continue to explore. But for now this looks like
  a PITA. Anyone getting better results?

 So, I solved the problem by reinstalling 10.0 with only the 2.6.2 kernel
 and then went in and edited X11 to take out the driver nvidia  and
 replace with nv. So the Nvidia driver that comes with 10.0 is not
 compatible with the 2.6 kernel. I am leary of going and getting the one on
 the NVIDIA site cause of the boot up problems this release is having on my
 comp. Anyhoo, the bugger runs. I hope some of this gets cleared up soon.

No it is.  Zeb discovered that that a depmod needs to be run to get the nvidia 
module to load.  See bug 8647

http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8647

'depmod -a' should solve the problem also.

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Re: [newbie] dvd plugin for xine

2004-03-06 Thread marc resnick
Robert Beach wrote:

I have a 850 AMD cpu
640 megs of ram
GForce TI 4400 AGP
Tyan Motherboard
I have been surfing for the plugins for xine so I can play dvds in Mandrake
9.2
I am still new at this and all the different rpms and tars I find are
confusing.  I'm  not sure which one to use or how many to use.  If I could
just have a good source to download from that works well I could probably
figure out how to install it.
Please help
Robert
 

 

Let's see...
Go into a terminal. Type su for root. If you don't have your urpmi 
sources defined, I suggest you do so: www.urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php
After you do that, type urpmi libdvdcss. Reply if you still can't get it 
to work.

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Re: [newbie] ML 10.0 problems

2004-03-06 Thread Dennis Myers
On Saturday 06 March 2004 09:45 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Saturday 06 March 2004 09:18 pm, Dennis Myers wrote:
  On Saturday 06 March 2004 08:42 am, Dennis Myers wrote:
   Hi all, I have the 5 CD set of 10.0 and it is not playing nicely with
   my comp. This is the first time of all the releases that I have had
   such a mess.  I have two choices on boot. the 2.4.xx kernel or the
   2.6.xx kernel. Both go through the boot up fine but 2.6.xx ends with
   just a blank screen and no keyboard action.
   2.4.xx loads up and runs but apps like OO.org just kind of hang with
   transparent screens.  I continue to explore. But for now this looks
   like a PITA. Anyone getting better results?
 
  So, I solved the problem by reinstalling 10.0 with only the 2.6.2 kernel
  and then went in and edited X11 to take out the driver nvidia  and
  replace with nv. So the Nvidia driver that comes with 10.0 is not
  compatible with the 2.6 kernel. I am leary of going and getting the one
  on the NVIDIA site cause of the boot up problems this release is having
  on my comp. Anyhoo, the bugger runs. I hope some of this gets cleared up
  soon.

 No it is.  Zeb discovered that that a depmod needs to be run to get the
 nvidia module to load.  See bug 8647

 http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8647

 'depmod -a' should solve the problem also.
Thanks Greg, I installed the drivers from the 3rd CD and that fixed it. I then 
had problems with no mouse thru the zonet kvm switch so I put the USB 
logitech optical mouse in the usb port and that fixed the mouse problem. I 
must have been having a irq conflict. Any way thanks for the bug point. Now I 
can wring this puppy out and see what I can break on my own. : )
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[newbie] Kthememanager

2004-03-06 Thread marc resnick
Does anyone know the name of the package with the KDE Theme Manager in it?

Thanks
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[newbie] Lost gnome-panel after installing 4.4.0 XFree86 on 9.2 AMD64

2004-03-06 Thread Guy Rouillier
I installed the AMD64 binary version (yes, on an AMD64 system) of XFree86 4.4.0, 
downloaded from the XFree86.org site.  I installed on an eMachines M6805, and I'm 
pleased to say that I've been able to get the native 1280x800 resolution on the LCD, 
and I've been able to simultaneously drive an attached monitor at an independent 
resolution and refresh rate.  This laptop uses the ATI 9600 Mobility chip with 64 MB 
discrete RAM, and I'm running the RC1 Mandrake 9.2 AMD64 release.  I'm using the 
radeon driver.

The issue I'm having is with gnome-panel, and unfortunately I don't see a pattern in 
the problem.  The very first time I started up X after installing 4.4.0, both screen 
had their own panel, and they both worked.  I shut down and added Xinerama.  When I 
rebooted, only the CRT had a panel.  If I put the mouse on the LCD and hit alt-F1, I 
get the system menu in the upper right corner of the LCD, and it works.  I've verified 
in /var/log/XFree.0.log that X recognizes the LCD as being the first monitor.

If I now comment out Xinerama, when I start X I have *no* gnome-panel at all!  Alt-F1 
will still pop up the system menu in the upper right corner of the LCD.  What can I do 
to get the panel on the LCD?  And where can I find the configuration options for the 
radeon driver?  Thanks.

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