[newbie] Upgrading to mdk 10
Just upgraded to mdk 10 any one know how to get KDE back? or Gnome even IceWm is all that comes up. K mail crashes. whatv packages do I need? TIA smitty (who is more confused than ever) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Whats happinging
Imgot this security warning can any one tell me what this means Have I been hacked ? TIA smitty From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Feb 4 12:14:08 2004 Received: (qmail 2200 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2004 12:14:08 - Received: from dsl081-053-247.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net (HELO slowbox.com) ([64.81.53.247]) (envelope-sender [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by mail7.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 4 Feb 2004 12:14:08 - Received: by slowbox.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id A4EA7A0582; Wed, 4 Feb 2004 07:13:05 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [msec] *** Security Check on slowbox.com, Wed Feb 4 04:13:05 PST 2004 *** Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 07:13:05 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (root) X-Evolution-Source: pop://[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Security Warning: These files belonging to packages are modified on the system : - /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/fonts.cache-1 - /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/menu - /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives/fonts.cache-1 Security Warning: These config files belonging to packages are modified on the system : - /etc/X11/fs/config - /etc/cups/classes.conf - /etc/cups/printers.conf - /etc/host.conf - /etc/info-dir - /etc/inittab - /etc/login.defs - /etc/modules - /etc/modules.conf - /etc/mtools.conf - /etc/pam.d/system-auth - /etc/printcap - /etc/sane.d/dll.conf - /etc/shells - /etc/shorewall/interfaces - /etc/shorewall/policy - /etc/shorewall/zones - /etc/ssl/webmin/miniserv.pem - /etc/sysconfig/bootsplash - /etc/sysconfig/harddrake2/previous_hw - /etc/sysconfig/msec - /etc/sysconfig/usb - /etc/sysctl.conf - /etc/syslog.conf - /etc/xml/catalog - /usr/share/config/kdeglobals - /usr/share/config/kdesktoprc - /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc - /usr/share/config/konquerorrc - /usr/share/sgml/docbook/xmlcatalog These are the ports listening on your machine : Active Internet connections (only servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp0 0 localhost:32768 *:* LISTEN 2074/xinetd tcp0 0 *:sunrpc*:* LISTEN 1013/portmap tcp0 0 *:1 *:* LISTEN 2635/perl tcp0 0 *:x11 *:* LISTEN 1993/X tcp0 0 *:ipp *:* LISTEN 2198/cupsd tcp0 0 *:socks *:* LISTEN 2541/socks5 tcp0 0 localhost:smtp *:* LISTEN 2474/master udp0 0 *:1 *:* 2635/perl udp0 0 *:32802 *:* 3962/xmms udp0 0 *:32803 *:* 3962/xmms udp0 0 localhost:domain*:* 2025/tmdns udp0 0 224.0.0.251:5353*:* 2025/tmdns udp0 0 slowbox.com:5353*:* 2025/tmdns udp0 0 localhost:5353 *:* 2025/tmdns udp0 0 *:sunrpc*:* 1013/portmap udp0 0 *:ipp *:* 2198/cupsd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Whats happinging
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 05:09, Lanman wrote: Aron; First of all, it would be a better idea to send the file as a text file, and , in light of all the viruses going around, it would also be a good idea to let people know that you attached the file to the email. Considering the nature of the text, and the size of the file, you probably could have copied and pasted the info directly into your email. God! Now i sound like a List Nazi ! Grin! My goof :( As to the info inn the file, it it normal info. The first section called Security Warning is only telling you that the files have been modified which could be something as simple as a package that you upgraded. The second section is just telling you that an assorted list of services on your system are listening for connections, or in other words, that they're ready, running, and listening for requests from other PC's. Now keep in mind that if this particular box doesn't need some of the services that are listed here, you should shut them down, and possibly remove them from the system, and of course, if this system is directly connected to your internet connection, and you don't have a firewall in place, then yes, you're asking for trouble. I do have shorewall running . Any Idea what services I can get rid of? TIA smitty If you'd like to know what ports are actually being seen by anyone or anything on the Internet, browse over to http://scan.sygate.com; and run a quick scan. That will give you a pretty thorough report on what ports under 1025 are open and visible to the Internet. Hope this helps? Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/4/2004 at 4:52 AM aronsmith wrote: Imgot this security warning can any one tell me what this means Have I been hacked ? TIA smitty Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Whats happinging
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 05:09, Lanman wrote: Aron; First of all, it would be a better idea to send the file as a text file, and , in light of all the viruses going around, it would also be a good idea to let people know that you attached the file to the email. Considering the nature of the text, and the size of the file, you probably could have copied and pasted the info directly into your email. God! Now i sound like a List Nazi ! Grin! As to the info inn the file, it it normal info. The first section called Security Warning is only telling you that the files have been modified which could be something as simple as a package that you upgraded. The second section is just telling you that an assorted list of services on your system are listening for connections, or in other words, that they're ready, running, and listening for requests from other PC's. Now keep in mind that if this particular box doesn't need some of the services that are listed here, you should shut them down, and possibly remove them from the system, and of course, if this system is directly connected to your Internet connection, and you don't have a firewall in place, then yes, you're asking for trouble. If you'd like to know what ports are actually being seen by anyone or anything on the Internet, browse over to http://scan.sygate.com; and run a quick scan. That will give you a pretty thorough report on what ports under 1025 are open and visible to the Internet. Got it bookmarked thanks (I'm gonna have to get serious about security gonna get the separate firewall up in the next day or so (2 firewalls any reason to?.. not to? Hope this helps? Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/4/2004 at 4:52 AM aronsmith wrote: Imgot this security warning can any one tell me what this means Have I been hacked ? TIA smitty Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Virus problems
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 07:07, John Richard Smith wrote: robin wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Increasingly, members of this list are being accused of sending virused emails. I know that some of you have no choice but to use windows for part of your life, but PLEASE, if you do, check that you are clean. Our addresses are being picked up from somewhere, and more and more clues point to someone who uses linux mailing lists. The warning I received this morning was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is not necessary to use Windows to have your address appear in the From header of a virus - all that is necessary is for your email address to be in the address book of someone who has an infected computer. Same goes for spam - I've had mails ostensibly from myself offering the usual viagra, organ enlargement etc. Sir Robin You too. John Im starting to get them too. smitty Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Whats happinging
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 10:23, Lanman wrote: On 2/4/2004 at 7:21 AM aronsmith wrote: any reason to?.. not to? *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** Aron; Using two firewalls usually causes problems with file sharing, etc., so I wouldn't bother with 2 firewalls if I were you. If you put up a firewall box in front of the server, remember to shut down the firewall ( Shorewall ) that's running on the server. As far as services that you can shut down are concerned, you'll need to send me a list of the services that are running on it now, and the services that you need. By the way, is this box being used as a server or workstation ? That answer can go a long way to helping us decide what to leave running and what to shut down. Lanman = The old box will just be used as a firewall the workstation will be a seperate box i had an old 500mhz compaq that I had stripped the am and drives out of so I bought 3 Nics at the surplus shop All 3Coms I have downloadd IPcop and with 128Mg Ram (probably overkill) should make a nice firewall Also want to be able to put my laptop on line also (old Dell 500 win XP ) Thinking kinda like this DSL | | oldbox(firewall) | hub | ---___|__ | | | (Workstation) laptop spare (slimserver? Do you think that would do it? thanks smitty __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] real player codecs in plf mplayer?
On Tue, 2004-02-03 at 08:17, JoeHill wrote: On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 16:04:49 + Anne Wilson disseminated the following: Sylpheed only quotes the text you select, all if no selection. I love this feature. Exactly the same in kmail ...which explains Aron's difficulty with judicious snipping. He uses Evolution. Tried claws but can't get it to open a link love the spellchecker tho. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Router Question
On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 06:50, JoeHill wrote: On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 06:24:03 -0800 aronsmith disseminated the following: And the hub or switch probably cost less than the crossover cable. Lee Thanks all, will be using Icop (liked the Documentation) with a hub to the linbox and to the Win$ux box thru a hub that will leave me a DMZ port for my music server Ain't it the freakin' coolest? You be havin' a LAN, there, d00d :-) As an aside, this is the 'issue' that originally turned me on to Linux, was building my floppy-based router/NAT/firewall. Took me an hour, I never had to worry about PPoE connections again, and it kept my crashy, buggy, bloated and useless WinXP box from becoming a zombie for a year, til I ditched Windows forever. Not that Windows boxes aren't zombies by default... Oh and BTW, what the hell is 'Icop'? I ment IPcop http://www.ipcop.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/IPCop/WebHome (note to myself when drinking ozzie beer stop at 2 six packs) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Router Question
OK.. I got off my dead arse and bought a small hard drive some ram and 3 NICs for the spare box I want to make a firewall/router out of it I also bought 3 non crossover cables (did I get the right ones?) This is an old compaqbox 500 Mhz and will have 128Mb Ram (I know its a lot for a firwall but thats all they had) any suggestions TIA smitty Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sound Configuration
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 12:23, John wrote: Hello I have been following the different sound threads trying to get MD9.2 sound working with no success yet. Hardrake lists the following info.:master riptide pci audio device; module unknown. I have dl'd the driver from linuxant.com and installed. Boot-up shows sound device as being ok. In 9.1, i installed the driver and kmix handled the volume automatically. Would appreciate any help on what to do or where to get info. I have googled and checked the forums. Thanks John I had the same problem It was the cable to my speakers :_( __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] user menu items not available
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 13:40, Margot wrote: Erylon Hines wrote: On Friday 30 January 2004 03:05 pm, Margot wrote: Erylon Hines wrote: On Sunday 25 January 2004 01:28 pm, Margot wrote: Margot wrote: Checked the files you suggested - all were installed except the first one, and when I tried to get it this was the result: unable to access rpm file [popt-1.8-22.1.92mdk.i586.rpm] error registering local packages I've tried rpm rebuilddb and urpmi update -a but with no luck. Any ideas where this file should be? Thanks Margot I'm betting that's the problem. All 6 packages must be installed to update and fix the package db bug. Try rpmfind.net. and dl the individual package. I think I got mine from one of the Mandrake mirrors. Remember, I downloaded and installed the rpms individually because I'm on dial-up and a full package update for all of 9.2 would take me forever to download. If you can't find it, I can mail it to you--it is only 63kb. Ok so far... I've found the rpm through rpmfind, and downloaded it into a temporary directory. What do I do with it now? Is it as simple as opening konqeror (presumably as root) and dragging the rpm from its temporary home into the correct location? If so, where should it live? Click on the RPM in konq , give root password and it should install it self. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Router Question
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 16:56, JoeHill wrote: On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:52:28 -0800 aronsmith disseminated the following: OK.. I got off my dead arse and bought a small hard drive some ram and 3 NICs for the spare box I want to make a firewall/router out of it I also bought 3 non crossover cables (did I get the right ones?) Yep, you want straight through. This is an old compaqbox 500 Mhz and will have 128Mb Ram (I know its a lot for a firwall but thats all they had) any suggestions If it has a CDROM drive, you can't beat: http://www.smoothwall.org/ Burn the ISO, boot your router box from the CD, and you got yerself a kickass firewall, easily admin'ed with a browser interface, though I think it also comes with SSH is yer into that. ...and since you have 3 NICs, you get to have 3 interfaces: 1 internal, 1 firewall, and one DMZ, where you can put stuff like gaming rigs or other non-security sensitive stuff. Run one cable from your modem to the router, then one cable from the router to the hub (I assume you have one), then one from the hub to each machine on the LAN. Nope don't have a hub any suggestions? ( I'm cheap) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] sounds in 9.2
anyone else having trouble getting grip to encode as mp3? lame is installed and selected. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] sounds in 9.2
On Tue, 2003-12-02 at 14:19, John Drouhard wrote: On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 07:26:40 -0800 aronsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anyone else having trouble getting grip to encode as mp3? lame is installed and selected. Is it making ogg's? Click the config tab, then the encode tab. Change the Encode file format to have an mp3 extension. That should fix it. John Drouhard thanks that did it P.S., your reply-to is not necessary. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] needed paid support
On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 19:25, Anguo wrote: Hello, Despite my best efforts at doing some research and asking questions, I still failed to setup a few important things on my computer. I am getting short of time too. I have therefore purchased some support units and created a few incidents at mandrake expert. I need some expert support on the two following items: 73630 winmodem setup 73674 networking two mandrake computers Later on, I will also need a real expert on file system to recover a badly corrupted FS. I know many of you, great girls and guys, are happy to provide support for free but I currently prefer the mandrake expert format, where I can have all my incidents stored in one place and the access to experts dedicated to see me through one problem. Even though I am not as wealthy as Bill Gates or Linus Torvald, I still have more money than time, so if some of you believe that the standard price for one incident is not a fair retribution for your help on one topic, let me know *beforehand* how much you'd think is fair and we can arrange a payment through paypal or something else. That's especially true for FS problem: the solution may be a long pain-staking process that can span many hours over many weeks. Write to me if you're really knowledgeable or better: pick up the aforementionned mandrake expert incidents. thanks, Anguo payment = we get to pick on you Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.2 Hanging on Boot
On Saturday 15 November 2003 08:54 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The boot stops at Starting ALSA 0.9.6. This is the same problem that I had with 9.1 which was solved with the help of this list. Unfortunately, I don't remember what the solution was! Please help. . . Rich Do you have any USM equiptment attached that can stop an install dead in its tracks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dumb Stupid Newbie Question
On Sunday 09 November 2003 04:03 am, sioni0 wrote: 9/11/0312:00GMT I have a similar problem, I did a clean install of MDK 9.2 during which it set up my HP PSC 1205 but nothing happened when a test page was supposed to be printed. Is this an HP driver problem or a MDK problem? *** - Original Message - From: Aronsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 12:19 AM Subject: [newbie] dumb Stupid Newbie Question I have been struggling to install a HP PSC-1210 I have downloaded hpoj 0.91 which is required after (I thought un-installing hpoj 0.90 when I try to install it hpoj .090 is reinstalled (ARRGH) any help would be appreciated. smitty -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer - --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I just crossposted a how-to that one of the guy on the HPOJ list wrote check it out -- PK Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] found on the forums
On Sunday 09 November 2003 07:32 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Saturday 08 November 2003 09:36 pm, aronsmith wrote: Cash poor companies have done dumber things And many of them continued to become even more cash poor before they disappeared. That's not something that I want to see happen here. -- cmg Agreed I like Mandrake! -- PK Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] found on the forums
On Sunday 09 November 2003 09:49 am, Phil Newcombe wrote: aronsmith wrote: On Sunday 09 November 2003 07:32 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Saturday 08 November 2003 09:36 pm, aronsmith wrote: Cash poor companies have done dumber things And many of them continued to become even more cash poor before they disappeared. That's not something that I want to see happen here. -- cmg Agreed I like Mandrake! Hey, maybe it's the marketing guy who's running it. It seems like something only a 'marketing guy' would come up with. Well you know how it is in the Marketing Department two drink minimum ya know -- pn Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- PK Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fwd: HP PSC1210 - small HOWTO
On Sunday 09 November 2003 12:04 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 09 Nov 2003 4:27 pm, aronsmith wrote: I promised to cross post this to the newbie list for anyone else who might have a Hp PSC 1210 Aron, could you post this on the TWiki? Under HardwareIssue/Printers, I guess. Anne I lost my password and username + I don't have the slighest Ideahow could you do it (please give credit to the people at hpoj project at sourceforge thanks -- PK Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fwd: HP PSC1210 - small HOWTO
On Sunday 09 November 2003 01:59 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 09 Nov 2003 9:05 pm, aronsmith wrote: On Sunday 09 November 2003 12:04 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 09 Nov 2003 4:27 pm, aronsmith wrote: I promised to cross post this to the newbie list for anyone else who might have a Hp PSC 1210 Aron, could you post this on the TWiki? Under HardwareIssue/Printers, I guess. Anne I lost my password and username + I don't have the slighest Ideahow could you do it (please give credit to the people at hpoj project at sourceforge thanks Make it easy for me, Aron. Give m ea one-liner so that I get the attribution as you want it Thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and all the people at the HPOJ project how is that? Anne -- PK Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Fwd: HP PSC1210 - small HOWTO
On Sunday 09 November 2003 02:44 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 09 Nov 2003 10:20 pm, aronsmith wrote: On Sunday 09 November 2003 01:59 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 09 Nov 2003 9:05 pm, aronsmith wrote: On Sunday 09 November 2003 12:04 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 09 Nov 2003 4:27 pm, aronsmith wrote: I promised to cross post this to the newbie list for anyone else who might have a Hp PSC 1210 Aron, could you post this on the TWiki? Under HardwareIssue/Printers, I guess. Anne I lost my password and username + I don't have the slighest Ideahow could you do it (please give credit to the people at hpoj project at sourceforge thanks Make it easy for me, Aron. Give m ea one-liner so that I get the attribution as you want it Thanks to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and all the people at the HPOJ project how is that? Done - but not knowing the psc1210 I'm not sure that I've placed it exactly right. Check it out at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/PriNters and let me know, please. Anne AFAIK its perfect thanks luv -- PK Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Thought you might enjoy this
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Re: [newbie] [OT] found on the forums
On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 09:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.HImandrake.com/cd_distribution.php Mega cool __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] found on the forums
On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 12:43, et wrote: On Saturday 08 November 2003 07:15 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Saturday 08 November 2003 01:41 pm, Aronsmith wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 09:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.HImandrake.com/cd_distribution.php Mega cool __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com There was a big discussion in the Club forums about whether these guys are really partners of MandrakeSoft or whether they are just being sleazy and trying to make it look like they are. None of there agreements list Mandrakesoft as a actual signatory, although the descriptions represent that they are authorizing all of this. The discussion on the Club started because some guy that was selling the download edition on e-bay got his auctions yanked because himandrake represented themselves to ebay as the owner of the mandrake trademarks and copyrights. If this is a US based partner of MandrakeSoft that is enforcing an exclusive agreement, fine, but they could also be a sleazy outfit that is trying to profit off of Mandrake's good name. I am more inclined to think the latter because I don't see anywhere on the himandrake site where they state they are an official partner, and every place where they might say so, it refers only to himandrake or Heavy Industrial and there are no links to the MandrakeSoft or linux-mandrake websites. and I don't see any notice of them or a news release on any Mandrake site either. h Ain't me. Come to think about it what are they offering that you cain'can't do anyway. Except represent yourself as Mandrake __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] found on the forums
On Saturday 08 November 2003 06:25 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Saturday 08 November 2003 02:15 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: There was a big discussion in the Club forums about whether these guys are really partners of MandrakeSoft or whether they are just being sleazy and trying to make it look like they are. None of there agreements list Mandrakesoft as a actual signatory, although the descriptions represent that they are authorizing all of this. The discussion on the Club started because some guy that was selling the download edition on e-bay got his auctions yanked because himandrake represented themselves to ebay as the owner of the mandrake trademarks and copyrights. If this is a US based partner of MandrakeSoft that is enforcing an exclusive agreement, fine, but they could also be a sleazy outfit that is trying to profit off of Mandrake's good name. I am more inclined to think the latter because I don't see anywhere on the himandrake site where they state they are an official partner, and every place where they might say so, it refers only to himandrake or Heavy Industrial and there are no links to the MandrakeSoft or linux-mandrake websites. Greg: Evidently HiMandrake _does_ have some sort of an arrangement with Mandrake. See the November 5 post by fbhancilhon (AKA Francois -- IIRC, he is Mandrake's marketing HMFIC). It's partway down this page: http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Splatt_Forum; file=viewtopictopic=13891forum=12start=0 Let me see if I've got this straight: 1. Mandrake invented the Mandrake Club two years ago as a way of resolving its cash problems. 2. In order to increase Club membership, Mandrake recently sweetened the pot by allowing only Club members to download 9.2 for the first few weeks after release. 3. Mandrake's distributor (HiMandrake) gets the Club-only files, burns some CD's, and offers them on e-bay _before_ the ISO's are available to man + dog. Sorta defeats the Club exclusivity feature, doesn't it? 4. The same distributor also shuts down anyone else who tries the same scam^H^H^H^Hdeal, claiming to have exclusive rights. 5. Mandrake's marketing guy says, No big deal. Huh? Cash poor companies have done dumber things -- cmg -- PK Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Registered Linux User No.
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 22:22, Franki wrote: Aidan Holmes wrote: Could someone please explain to me what the Registered Linux User No.xxx is that a few of you sport in your email signatures. I like the sound of that -Registered Linux User - how do you become one and does it give you any benefits other than a cool email signature? -Aidan No other benefits, just support for the community and some cred with fellow linux users... :-) I signed onto this thing a few years ago... rgds Franki Registered Linux user: 218317 http://counter.li.org/cgi-bin/runscript/display-person.cgi?user=218317 Even cooler to have it and not use it ;-) -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] dumb Stupid Newbie Question
I have been struggling to install a HP PSC-1210 I have downloaded hpoj 0.91 which is required after (I thought un-installing hpoj 0.90 when I try to install it hpoj .090 is reinstalled (ARRGH) any help would be appreciated. smitty -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dumb Stupid Newbie Question
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 18:48, Dennis Myers wrote: On Friday 07 November 2003 06:19 pm, Aronsmith wrote: I have been struggling to install a HP PSC-1210 I have downloaded hpoj 0.91 which is required after (I thought un-installing hpoj 0.90 when I try to install it hpoj .090 is reinstalled (ARRGH) any help would be appreciated. smitty Aron, how are you trying to install? Have you tried opening a file manager like konqueror and just clicking on the hpoj 0.91 rpm? Yes also i have su to the /home/aronsmith/tmp dir and untarred it also I have tried the graphical installer printerdrake I have (I Thought )removed hpoh-0.90 then tried toinstall hpoj-0.91 but my box always installs hpoj-0.90 again -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help: I need my mouse back
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 08:29, Phan N. Thu wrote: Hi everybody My mouse (a USB MiniWheel Logitech) had been detected at install of 9.1 and working perfectly for about a month.Then I got ambitious and went to Harddrake and added 'Logitech' to the default setting of USB / WHEEL. Ever since, no more mouse. I know it isn't the mouse 'cause it continues to work perfectly under Windows (dual-boot) but I don't know enough CLI commands to restore the original mouse configuration. The info I got when I do 'harddrake2' in the console is for the mouse: USB WHEEL 5BUTTONS so I presume therein lies the trouble? It's a regular 2-button wheel mouse. I need to know the proper configuration file: is it /etc/devfs/conf.d which had usbmouse.conf in it. This is where I committed the second mistake by deleting usbmouse.conf and haven't been able to restore it. Help is urgently requested and will be gratefully received. use mousedrake and set mouse to generic wheel mouse __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help: I need my mouse back
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 08:29, Phan N. Thu wrote: Hi everybody My mouse (a USB MiniWheel Logitech) had been detected at install of 9.1 and working perfectly for about a month.Then I got ambitious and went to Harddrake and added 'Logitech' to the default setting of USB / WHEEL. Ever since, no more mouse. I know it isn't the mouse 'cause it continues to work perfectly under Windows (dual-boot) but I don't know enough CLI commands to restore the original mouse configuration. The info I got when I do 'harddrake2' in the console is for the mouse: USB WHEEL 5BUTTONS so I presume therein lies the trouble? It's a regular 2-button wheel mouse. I need to know the proper configuration file: is it /etc/devfs/conf.d which had usbmouse.conf in it. This is where I committed the second mistake by deleting usbmouse.conf and haven't been able to restore it. Help is urgently requested and will be gratefully received. I spoke to soon try configuration--enter root password --Harddrake click on mouse run config tool (at bottom of right window ) set mouse to Generic wheel mouse in the pop-up window. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Elsewhere in the news
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 11:04, robin wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2003 04:24 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2003 04:05 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2003 09:05 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: According to this article, Novell has just purchased Suse for $210 million: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5101680.html -- cmg I think this is A Good Thing for Linux. Not so good for Red Hat or Mandrake's enterprise efforts. But, the first thing that crossed my mind (actually Novell - SuSE acquisition has been rumored for a while), is how will this affect the SCO fiasco? Novell has rights to Unix code licensing, and can amend SCO's rights, which are subordinate. Or so Novell claims, and SCO is reluctant to admit. And now, what's next ? - IBM buys Mandrake ? Kaj Haulrich. What's next, only time will tell. IBM has been a strong Linux supporter for several years. To the tune that they put about $75Mil into SuSE a year or so ago. Now that's been acquired by Novell, also a strong Linux support group, an the reason they split from SCO some time back. BUT, SuSE, IBM, and Novell also have current an prior relationships and agreements. IBM is ante'g up $50 million into these Novell/Ximian/SuSE collaboration efforts. SuSE came out smellin like a rose. I believe so did Novell. So I just view it as circlin the wagons in a more concerted effort for OSS/GNU/Linux to take over the Net and enterprise. Fsck M$ et al. The money involved is relatively peanuts anyhow for Novell, not even pocket change for IBM. For an indicator, http://news.netcraft.com/ notice that Apache's (on Un*x) gain, mirrors M$ loss. BTW, IBM involvement is significant to me. They're about 19 on the world's largest companies. For perspective, Microsoft is somewhere in the 170's. BUT... So we're still here, just the 1 or 2% of the desktop users runnin Linux. RedHat wants to go enterprise only. No surprise they always considered regular users as a nuisance (which they are) for a commercial distro. Realistically there's only two major community sponsored choices left, Mandrake an Debian. I ain't goin anywhere, but there's much less than 1 or 2% left. What to do? So y'all can help, or give up. One or the other, no free rides. Join the Club, but also, tom $ cat /etc/mandrake-release Mandrake Linux release 10.0 (Cooker) for i586 got goin yesterday. Install an test it, specially those with ready made marginal hardware (Dell, Gateway, Compaq, any laptop, etc). Subscribe (lurk) on the cooker and change log lists, contribute when you can. When it's done in a few months, you can feel proud that you helped ... or you can resort to being one of those that sings the same old song 'Mandrake hasn't been a good release insert prior release, this one should'a had more work an testing' I've never done any distro testing, since I only have a 4GB hard drive, and it's currently 93% full. However, I should be getting a new box in a few weeks' time, with enough space for a an extra Linux partition, and enough speed to make it worthwhile compiling RPMs (I've only done that once, for LyX, but I can relearn how to do it pretty quickly). I'll be happy to test anything that doesn't blow up my monitor (remembering the good old days when you edited a modeline and said a prayer before typing startx). Sir Robin Thank god I'm to new for that :-)) -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SHould I get SuSe
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 11:49, robin wrote: Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2003 07:17 pm, HaywireMac wrote: Oh, and *wow*, it will automatically dual boot with Windows, MDK has been doing that since, what, 9.0? errr... my first crack at Mandrake was 7.0, and it did the dual boot tango flawlessly. I started with 7.0 too, and it was enough to make me switch from RedHat I only tried it because we had this weird box that wouldn't do a network install of RH or Slack, and I gave up reading the Debian installation manual after around page 250 ;-) Haywire makes a good point when he says it's the kernel and the other packages that are important, more than the distro. the important factors in choosing a distro are ease of installation, distro-specific configuration tools and, most importantly, community support. Mandrake does pretty well in all three areas. Sir Robin When a friend gave me my first Mandrake distro he described it as Red Hat that works. worked for me. -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Download Managers
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 01:05, John Richard Smith wrote: Ralph Slooten wrote: On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:47:03 + John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John? I'm sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about here? Are my messages bouncing, or are your e-mails bouncing, or is someone elses e-mail bouncing? Noticed nothing here... Greetings Ralph -- http://axljab.homelinux.org/ ...the software said Win95 or better, so I installed Linux My personal emails to you have been returned , No something or other cannot remember exactly what, It will try again, will notify , left me feeling message did not get through, but then some time later, like 24 hours later , you reply, so evidently it did get through , but not very quickly. Sorry I deleted the original webserver error message so cannot repeat it verbatum My original email was sent timed at 02.11.03 15.32 hours, check your post for receipt time.I think you will find is was some time later that you received it. John if I may jump in Lately I have been getting 2 copies of messages from most but not all on the list John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Redhat = traitors???
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 11:53, Grant wrote: Read the excerpt, follow the link for the complete story: Red Hat's chief executive has said that Linux needs to mature further before home users will get a positive experience from the operating system, saying they should choose Windows instead... Matthew Szulik, chief executive of Linux vendor Red Hat, said on Monday that although Linux is capable of exceeding expectations for corporate users, home users should stick with Windows: 'I would say that for the consumer market place, Windows probably continues to be the right product line,' he said... http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2003110401326NWDTRH You don't think that's true? For the Average luser he's right. We all know people who will use Win$ux no matter what. They do not want to configure anything Win$ux came on the computer they got at Circuit City and they never heard of Linux (poor benighted souls) - Grant __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Redhat = traitors???
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 13:00, robin wrote: Aronsmith wrote: On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 11:53, Grant wrote: Read the excerpt, follow the link for the complete story: Red Hat's chief executive has said that Linux needs to mature further before home users will get a positive experience from the operating system, saying they should choose Windows instead... Matthew Szulik, chief executive of Linux vendor Red Hat, said on Monday that although Linux is capable of exceeding expectations for corporate users, home users should stick with Windows: 'I would say that for the consumer market place, Windows probably continues to be the right product line,' he said... http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2003110401326NWDTRH You don't think that's true? For the Average luser he's right. We all know people who will use Win$ux no matter what. They do not want to configure anything Win$ux came on the computer they got at Circuit City and they never heard of Linux (poor benighted souls) And if their computers came with Linux, they'd use that, even if someone offered them a free copy of Windows XP Super-Mega Professional. True Sir Robin -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Redhat = traitors???
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 14:10, HaywireMac wrote: On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:47:56 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I do. Most all current home desktop users, windoze users should stay right where they are. Most aren't even aware of 'hardware' issues on anything but Winsux (ie, proprietary, or winhardware). How many times do we now see ...but it works with Windows. Some expect an OS that they can change to with no effort on their part. Creating an unaffordable support headache, misinformation, and discouragement for Linux distros that provide free/free 'as is' GPL/GNU software. I don't. I'd rather not have many millions of zombie spam-spewing virus-spreading bandwidth-eating illegal-monopoly-supporting privacy invading POS OS's out there, when the alternative is just as easy to use, more stable, more secure, and doesn't violate people's privacy rights and render the internet almost unusable at times. A better day awaits us when Windows is forever banished into the garbage heap of history where it belongs. If Linux is too hard for someone to understand and use, which is difficult to believe, then there's always the Mac. It's not that its harder, it's that most people don't care. they want to surf and do email and play games kinda like getting them to read Plato ...they see no need -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Elsewhere in the news
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 14:24, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2003 04:05 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Tuesday 04 November 2003 09:05 am, Carroll Grigsby wrote: According to this article, Novell has just purchased Suse for $210 million: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5101680.html -- cmg I think this is A Good Thing for Linux. Not so good for Red Hat or Mandrake's enterprise efforts. But, the first thing that crossed my mind (actually Novell - SuSE acquisition has been rumored for a while), is how will this affect the SCO fiasco? Novell has rights to Unix code licensing, and can amend SCO's rights, which are subordinate. Or so Novell claims, and SCO is reluctant to admit. And now, what's next ? - IBM buys Mandrake ? HP more likely ;-) Kaj Haulrich. -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Haywire you been at it again?
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Re: [newbie] Haywire you been at it again?
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 16:29, finalfiler wrote: Aronsmith wrote: http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/bubbacomp/ Idleness boredom are wond'rous things :-D Aww common I just bought one of the mbo's 1ghz gonna run linux too.. multimedia server (gotta get my Truckkie music somehow) ;-)) -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What do you suppose this is about?
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 21:52, John Wilson wrote: On November 2, 2003 08:00 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Sunday 02 November 2003 10:52 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: I don't see where folks are getting the idea that it is the 9.2 release that Gael is talking about. I still expect to see the iso on the mirrors and think he has something else in mind. I definitely agree with this. I think he is either referring to a Mandrake laptop or a small form factor machine that is portable. I think Shuttle has one that has a handle on the top. I t appears you're right given the discussion on Texstar. Now this I can look forward to :) If that's it I don't care if the 9.2 ISOs don't show till Christmas :) ttfn The Neramaih M-1000 mini ITX form factor MBO is a lot of shuttles and it _is _linux_compatable so thats not a biggie but, with a linux BIOS http://www.linuxbios.org/ Ho-Doggie John __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What do you suppose this is about?
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 00:50, Anne Wilson wrote: wish A handheld ogg player? Yeh pant pant (you do know how to turn me on ;-) Anne -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Soundcard at ASUS P4S533-X
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 10:33, Anisio Rodrigues Neto wrote: hello, i´m new at the list and inlinux as well... i installed the mandrake 9.1 on my pc, the motherboard is an ASUS P4S533-X, the mandrake recognize my sound card but it doensn´t work at all. i tried other alsa drivers but i don´t know how to use them. Does anyboy had the same problem and can help me? i´m not a linux user but i´m trying to be, i tried already the red hat 9 and connectiva 9 (a brazilian distribuition), and the mandrake was the only one that recongnized my soundcard... i tried the volume as well... the´re up, but no sound at all... thanks folks. Did you set the volume control in aumix? multimedia---soundAumix 'cause the default is zero Welcome to the list smitty Anisio __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't start X, No Devices
On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 09:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow Linux users, I'm trying to sell a Compaq Deskpro 2000 (Pentium 200MMX w/96M RAM, 1M Video), and I have a buyer if I can get Linux on it. The thing works fine under Win 98, Win ME, Win Pro. Under Linux my first hurdle was the sudden appearance of a bad track, resolved by installing the HD on another machine (no bad track there), installing MDK9.1 and transferring the drive back. Everything seemed fine, I was using WindowMaker and IceWM, and it was groovy. But something happened along the way and now it doesn't auto-login, and once logged in, it won't run X (or any other GUI I've tried). The display information is correct. The init level is 5. When I try to run X, there are several lines dealing with authority stuffs, and then there is the error message No Devices Found. I thought Linux's strength was that it could run on almost anything from watches to supercomputers, so the limitation here must be my ability to modify Linux for this machine. BTW, the bad track is apparently back because fsck finds a bunch of bad blocks in a row. It finds the same one each time run, and I've tried employing the -l/-L switches, but must be doing something wrong there too. It must be a BIOS issue, and on these Compaqs there's no convenient access to the BIOS. BTW, I spent 11 hours on this and look at recieving $60 for the system grin. Also, the bad track thing had me throw away a harddrive a few weeks ago, same tracks reading as bad on this drive, so that drive was probably ok too. sigh Is the answer: Nope, MDK9.1 won't run on that piece of junk, install Win and sell it for less? Or is it: Sure, just adjust the Kaiser Module and MDK9.1 will be fine on there? Bah!, Did you try F-10 on boot , that will access the bios on most Compaq's Max __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] What do you suppose this is about?
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 18:38, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Sunday 02 November 2003 07:11 pm, HaywireMac wrote: I'm shocked that the public release of the ISO's will be pushed back to December, tha's fer sher. Mac: IMHO I don't think that the cryptic article at the Club (http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=1323mode=nocomments) announcing the December arrival of unspecified magnificent happenings refer to the public release of the 9.2 ISO's. For those with nothing worthwhile to do, you can find extensive speculation on the true and revealed meaning of all of this at Texstar (http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=7947) and the Club (op cit). -- cmg Possibly a HP laptop preloaded with 9.2 ? after all MDK has a working agreement with HP __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 11:19, Margot wrote: HaywireMac wrote: On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 16:50:10 + Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: boys, that should be singular. I didn't call anyone's opinion shrill, silly, or other such things. Up to that point it was a fairly civil and on-topic discussion. You are correct though, the OT list *is* the place if you want to engage in immature trolling, which is why I try very hard to stay away from both ;-) Awww come back and join us Mac - we're not all immature trolls, some of us are quite old! Margot (regular OT list poster and elderly trollette) Yeh.. Yeh...pant!...pant! __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 12:07, Margot wrote: Aronsmith wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 11:19, Margot wrote: HaywireMac wrote: On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 16:50:10 + Graham Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: boys, that should be singular. I didn't call anyone's opinion shrill, silly, or other such things. Up to that point it was a fairly civil and on-topic discussion. You are correct though, the OT list *is* the place if you want to engage in immature trolling, which is why I try very hard to stay away from both ;-) Awww come back and join us Mac - we're not all immature trolls, some of us are quite old! Margot (regular OT list poster and elderly trollette) Yeh.. Yeh...pant!...pant! E, Aron, the porn discussion is on the OT list, not here! ;-) Yes but Hayweed is almost as much fun to tease as Robin. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why is it..
On Thursday 30 October 2003 11:02 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... that BEFORE you get Linux, those who speak in favour of it say things like oh, get Linux coz it is far less demanding on hardware or you have much more control configuring hardware or you are in control Then when you do install Linux and the gee whizz GFX card won't work or the CD-ROM can't be mounted or the poor network performance is the fault of that low end NIC (all which work very well on another OS :-)), the experts all respond in unison - for Linux you need the very BEST hardware. Get rid of that crappy junk. Buy new. Buy the best :-) Feeling mischievous i got junk but got no trouble (except what I cause myself ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] reason to upgrade to 9.2?
On Thursday 30 October 2003 10:56 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran 8. SPent months getting it going. I upgraded to 9.0 - absolute disaster. In despair did a clean install. Great. Everything worked. I upgraded to 9.1 - disaster. Network kaput. Dial up to ISP broken. SAMBA zilched. Two month later, seems OK. Except writing to SAMBA from a Win box is incredibly slow. Moved file sharing back to a WinXP PC. Current reading of problem suggests no cure that I can effect. So, why would I want to take a chance on 9.2 - but maybe I wouldn't coz I have an LG DVD/CD-RW? I don't know what to tell you. Of course if you just want to complain I am the newest of newbies and if I can do it ... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT about plugins for XMMS: Was: reason to upgrade to 9.2?
On Friday 31 October 2003 01:15 am, Heather/Femme wrote: On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:36:12 -0800 aronsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snip rember the kim-1? finaly got some great V* plugins for xmms (cartoon porn dancing to truck driver music) um ya I remember teh kim-1...even if i am only 30. http://www.xmms.org/ look for gdancer http://figz.com/gdancer/ now check out the silly stuff too have fun aron wheer to get those plugins please? Stoned outta her mind subby :) smitty Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] md5 checksums for downloaded 9.2 ISOs
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 11:25, Anarky wrote: Brian Parish wrote: Does anyone have these or know where to find them? TIA Brian are you talking about the club member isos or the free isos .. as I can't find any isos for non-club though it's mentioned on the download page :( wait a couple of days it's coming (the download edition) __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- When you're being mugged..a handgun is more comfort than an ACLU lawyer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Damn these spammers! : ISP ip-ranges [slightly OT]
On Friday 31 October 2003 06:38 pm, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:17:50 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: The answer however, is not to reject everything out of hand and adopt the position that no law can be useful. Unless you recognize that laws *create disorder* ;-) The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu There is an alternative to the Babylon shitstem, the bureaucracy, the SNAFU that we call government. It's people taking responsibility for their own participation in the community, the 'net, and leaving the parasites and legal priests out of it. I will never sit down with MPAA or RIAA or MS lawyers and work out a compromise. When you choose the lesser of two evils, you choose evil. You Sounded like Tom or Dennis there for a minute ;) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **
On Thursday 30 October 2003 06:35 am, John Wilson wrote: On October 29, 2003 08:48 am, John Richard Smith wrote: HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:11:47 -0800 Eric Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I do remember Wilma, though... Oh, ya, I was gettin' to 13 then, so you can imagine the response to those satin tights... ;-) Who can remember dragnet John In black and white or colour? :) The facts mam just the facts ;-) ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stopping HTML Mail
On Thursday 30 October 2003 09:27 am, robin wrote: aronsmith wrote: Any way That I can get Kmail or Evolution to automaticly bounce mail Fomatted as HTML ? Thanks smitty I can't answer for the clients, since I'm a moz man, but I would have thought the place to do this would in any case be procmail (assuming you are running your own mailserver or have access to a home directory at Nope don't know how snip Sir Robin proc I can find but where are the rc files kept ? thanks smitty Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stopping HTML Mail
On Thursday 30 October 2003 11:31 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 4:28 pm, aronsmith wrote: Any way That I can get Kmail or Evolution to automaticly bounce mail Fomatted as HTML ? Thanks smitty I haven't done it, but it looks possible in KMail. Do it in two phases. First make sure that you are isolating the html mail, but setting a filter that says message contains html move to Trash. If that works properly you can then change the 'move to trash' into 'bounce'. HTH Thanks smitty Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **
On Thursday 30 October 2003 07:40 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carroll Grigsby wrote: upon the amount and nature of various chemical substances consumed by the contestant within the previous 24 hours. Only those producing mind altering states, I hope. :-D It being Halloween Take the fog Machine remove the fogging liquid then put 1/4 oz. of Haywires favorite Boo in it ..vola' smoke that nobody complains about. (kids do _not_ try this at home ) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stopping HTML Mail
On Thursday 30 October 2003 10:01 pm, robin wrote: aronsmith wrote: On Thursday 30 October 2003 09:27 am, robin wrote: aronsmith wrote: Any way That I can get Kmail or Evolution to automaticly bounce mail Fomatted as HTML ? Thanks smitty For the full story, see http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/ Sir Robin Thanks smitty Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 08:23 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:18:26 -0500 Carroll Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: A suggestion: How about a topic-of-the-week? This week's topic: What would you do with Steve Ballmer if you could be alone with him for a half hour and no legal consequences? EG It would involve a catheter a blender and the Cds from Win$ux 2000 and a soundproof room Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LG CDRoms
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 07:05 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Wednesday 29 October 2003 07:30 am, robin wrote: An analogy is website design. I write, or at least try to write, standards-compliant HTML/CSS. If it comes out fine in Mozilla, I can be pretty damn sure it'll look OK in Opera or Konqueror. I also know that there is a risk that Internet Explorer will mangle my code, so from time to time I test my pages in IE. I can't be bothered to spend a lot of time on workarounds to makesure my pages look exactly right on IE, but I at least want them to be legible (same applies to things like Netscape 4.*). I can't afford to take the view that any problem is Microsoft's fault and not my problem, because 90% of people viewing my pages will be using IE. Of course, in your view, you test on software that is available for free. So, when IE becomes non-standalone with the next version and the only way to obtain the newest version is to purchase the entire Windows OS for $$$, is your view going to remain the same about testing on IE? IOW, are you going to buy the OS and a box to install it on in order to test your web design? And, BTW, you will need a dedicated box because the palladium, er trusted computing initiative stuff will guarantee that you need the entire box dedicated to Windows. The same applies to LG CDROMs. I don't know how common they are where the developers live, but here in Turkey, they are the most common drives, because they're cheap, and actually more reliable than their main rival, Sony. Whateverthe problems, the kernel should have been tested on them. The reason that standards exist is to eliminate the need for developers to buy one of each different type of drive and test it. That is really the only way to insure compatibility. On the other hand, it would have been trivial for LG to test each of their drives on Linux to insure compatibility and if they did not do so, it is up to the user who chooses to install Linux on his hardware to test and insure that it is okay before they commit to it. At the very least, you should purchase a drive that either others have used before, or that is built to published (and compatible) standards and then hold the manufacturer culpable if those standards are not correct. Buyer beware is a VERY small price to pay for what we have been given with Linux. This endless bitching about someone else not assuming all responsibility for what each of us do ourselves is really starting to wear thin on me. For anyone that doesn't want to take responsibility for learning, knowing and understanding their own hardware and software, there is an alternative. It is called Windows. [snip] Be careful what you wish for.. if Mandrake were to adopt a position of responsibility for LG's error, you would unlikly see anything cutting edge in mandrake till long after someone else has done it first... As I said, the fault at the Linux end is really with the kernel developers more than with Mandrake. Actually, I disagree. The fault is with a manufacturer that deviated from known and published standards, and then failed to notify their customers that they had done so, and in doing so, created the potential for disaster. I really don't get the point back to Linux kernel developers. How could they have ever expected any hardware manufacturer to do something as stupid as match up a firmware upgrade command to something as common as a clear buffer command? Given that they are volunteering their time to all of us, why don't some of the current crop of complainers pony up their own resources and start sending hardware to the developers so that testing can be done? Instead of pointing out problems, start providing solutions. To be honest, CDROM's being as cheap as they are now days.. throw the dud one out .(or send it back to LG) and go and get yourself a nice new burner or DVD player (or both) and get on with life That's fine if we're talking about a home user with a decent salary. If we're talking about a school in a developing country with a load of CDROMs to replace, I imagine the techie who suggested switching over to Linux isproabbly looking for a job now. Given the difference in licensing costs on software, I imagine that pointing out that the loss of a bunch of $12 drives not exceeding the cost of paying some $200+ per computer (for windows) would help deflect that particular criticism. Look at it like you buy a yugo pickup then when you load it up the tires pop Who's fault is it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ** Welcome to Newbie **
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 10:48 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 10:09:45 -0800 (PST) Sam Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: FAGGOT SPAMMER QUIT SPAMMING ME WTF?! Got one from him too must be a win$ux user Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LG CDRoms
On Wednesday 29 October 2003 02:01 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: Anne Your'e welcome (your right much quicker to read ;-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Suggestions on Mandrake books
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 03:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I looked high and low for a Mandrake-specific book. The only one I could find was the Definitive Manual. I got it and it appears to be very comprehensive - but I have only looked at parts of it - not had it long enough to give an overall impression - but at least for my needs it is the only book in town. You might want to check out one of the various linux command references. I have one that is cross-referenced to MS-DOS commands - useful if you know MS-DOS. However it is not a clearly laid out as one would hope, and as always the case, there are commands that I hear/read about that are not listed. Don't know if those are distribution-specific or not. LeRoy I think its best for me to get a book to help me with learning mandrake 9.1/linux in general. MI'm ccompletely new to linux and would say I'm an intermediate - advanced windows user. I'm bad with technical jargon like math books, so a nice easy guide would help me the best. Any suggestions? How is the 'The Definitive Guide to Using Mandrake Linux' i see on their store web site? I see that you can get the one with the included cd's or dvd. Anyone have experience with those? Thanks boardrider Rute Users Tutorial and Exposition by paul sheer ISBN 0-12-033351-4 39.95 and comes with CD (or you can Download it as a PDF file for free at ://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/index.html.gz __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MPAA and your computer
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 03:44, HaywireMac wrote: Really great article over on Salon.com. You gotta look at a quick ad to read the whole article, but it's well worth it. Quote: Fearful of piracy, the studios want the federal government to legislate how computers are made. Critics say such interference signals the end of the line for digital innovation. Link: http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2003/10/27/broadcast_flag/index.html Kinda like the Mississippi Legislature which passed a law in the 20's setting Pi=3 (really they did) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MPAA and your computer
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 06:26, HaywireMac wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 05:48:21 -0800 Aronsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Fearful of piracy, the studios want the federal government to legislate how computers are made. Critics say such interference signals the end of the line for digital innovation. Link: http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2003/10/27/broadcast_flag/index.html Kinda like the Mississippi Legislature which passed a law in the 20's setting Pi=3 (really they did) This is the funniest part: American television -- which the MPAA extols as a unique resource, justly cherished by millions of Americans, and a major United States export that is tremendously important ... to our prestige in the world, a characterization that might give you new, patriotic appreciation for something like Joe Millionaire -- would be at grave risk in a world where everyone is a potential pirate. ROTFLMAO! But more on point, is this: The MPAA, critics say, would like to end all that. Under the original proposal, no [copy-protection] technology could be approved without at least two motion picture companies approving it, says Fred von Lohmann, an attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. He adds that under the MPAA's scheme, open-source digital television systems would be banned outright, because under this regulation not only do you have to embrace protection technologies, you must implement them in a tamper-resistant fashion, which means you've got to weld the hood shut. Open-source and free software are premised on not welding the hood shut -- it's not open source if it can't be modified by the users. The MPAA is attacking Open Source the same way SCO and MS are, by trying to turn it into the enemy of Free Enterprise. Of course. Any Government mandated monopoly will not work as well as free Enterprise thats why they depend on law (they cannot compete in a real free market Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Where to post on reply
On Tuesday 28 October 2003 11:57 am, Mark Kirschner wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Johan Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:36 AM To: Mandrake-newbie Subject: [newbie] Where to post on reply Hi, Have I missed a new rule about posting on reply (top - middle -bottom)??? I prefer top - why - when I open mail there already visible the reply. Maybe it just of preference. OK some require to post at the question when more then one question. Johan May this be a good day for learning Registered Linux user # 330034 I believe it is preferred here, and even detailed in the list FAQ on Twiki that replies are bottom posted. The reason for this, ostensibly is so that the reader can read the reply in context to the question asked. Shortly after I began to follow this list, there was a series of list nazi posts reminding people to bottom, or at least inline, post their replies to the messages. Of course, some mail programs (blasted outlook) don't let you change the reply option to bottom post. Speaking of personal preference, I prefer the bottom post for general reply, inline for multiple point replies. of course on the OT list they top/middle and bottom post all at the same time. :-0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] K3b .10-2
On Tue, 2003-10-28 at 12:27, Charlie M. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tuesday 28 October 2003 07:03, Bryan Phinney wrote: For anyone that has a DVD-Burner and is looking for a GUI tool for burning, K3b has a new version out and they have added DVD-R/-RW/+R/+RW support to the tool. You should simply need to download the new .rpm's linked on the site and install and you are up and running with the new version. Not sure if they work with 9.2 but they certainly work on my 9.1 system. On another note, the latest version of xcdroast also adds support for DVD+R/+RW as well. I don't see why it wouldn't work Brian. I've been running the cvs .10 version for a few weeks. The only thing I don't like is the job completion sound. g Start a DVD copy and burn go to bed when Charge gos off ya wake up fast and unstick yourself from the ceiling :-o Have fun everybody. Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-21mdk 13:25:48 up 1:28, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.11, 0.14 Many a bum show has been saved by the flag. -- George M. Cohan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ntE4G11CaRuZZSIRAgT9AKCdqCJlgQECHym+dhsLp8uCrcTC4QCfdkPd 6bxDHhIuhtJJBpSc6F9wES4= =XUiN -END PGP SIGNATURE- __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hi, I cant boot up my mandrake 91
On Mon, 2003-10-27 at 09:01, Alberto Borges de Almeida wrote: Hi, I can't boot up my mandrake 91. i start to boot Mandrake 91 them apear the screen of instal, i press enter and FREEZE. I tryed to press f1 and type all kind of initializing comands, and all fail. i have alredy set no for plug and play bios a computer that i'm trying to instal is: AMD duron 1200 MB k7vmm 128MB RAM 40GB HD Sory my bad english. Thankyou, Alberto Almeida This could be your cdrom or your memory (RAM) 128Mb is kinda on the light side especially if you have a bad Ram chip. Don't worry about the bad English most of this group can't read anyway. smitty Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
