[newbie] Re:
Joaquin wrote: Wha happen? Joaquin off the page? :-) Bob J.
Re: [newbie] Setting up a modem
Mike Easter wrote: Hi i was wondering how to get linux to recognize my modem it is definetly not a winmodem because it recognizes it as a pci device any help with this will be greatly appreciated Mike, this isn't about your modem problem per se, but I'd like to ask you a question if I may. Did you read any of the previous messages on this list before you posted? Also - did you read any of the messages on the expert list? I'm working on a 'Tips for new posters' sheet and i can use the information. Thanks for your help Bob J.
Re: [newbie] (In)Compatible Hardware
Ty Mixon wrote: Original Message On 10/4/99, 8:20:52 PM, Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] (In)Compatible Hardware: [snip] Maxtors I heard someone else mention. I have had two drop dead on me, one with thermal shutdowns for no good reason, and the other with bearings eating the spindle. Quantum Bigfoot Drives--three KO from powering down unpredictably (the drive, not the computer or the power source), one with logic card woes. That was 4 out of 4, BTW. I should have mentioned them, but they are not in the category of "problem for implementing linux" They are in the category of "buying this qualifies you as *non compos mentis*" :-} (And I bought 4 of them to pay for my education). Civileme Time for me to start reading the mag's again - I thought Maxtors were ok . . . I've personally had real good luck with them. The few that come back to the shop with problems have given me experience with Maxtors return policy. I have to call for an RMA, never been turned down. We usually get the replacement in 2 - 3 days, no quibbiling. After the diceing and dancing I've had to do with some other mfrs (Seagate for one) I'm quite pleased with them. YMMV Bob J.
Re: [newbie] newbie-remove
Thomas Peter wrote: Bob Jackson wrote: Steve Philp wrote: Larry Corrales wrote: newbie-remove Wrong address. Check the MandrakeSoft website for the correct address. Isn't it about time we put a footer on the bottom of list messages that includes removal instructions? It won't help. I get the KDE lists. The put the unsubscribe info in the footer on each message. The 'remove' traffic is about the same there as here. These people don't read the f*** manual or the list welcome message. They won't read the footer either. I've been trying to think of something that might help and have had no success. Bob J. Maybe they're just stupid. :-( Maybe they ,like myself, lost it from having to reinstall several times trying to make things work. Maybe you forget what it was like when you got started. I'm not any better at saving things or remembering things than anybody else. However, after sending several messages saying 'remove' to a mailing list and not getting removed I'm smart enough to realize that approach won't work. The I ask myself,"Hmmm, how did I get on this list in the first place?" Ahhha, I went to linux-mandrake and subscribed. I go back to linux-mandrake -- lo and behold! Unsubscribe instructions (for those who can read) right in front of me. Easy as pie. These jerks are to lazy to do anything except annoy others into doing their legwork. Bob J.
OT Re: [newbie] newbie-remove
Jaybird X wrote: John Aldrich wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, you wrote: Maybe they're just stupid. :-( Maybe they ,like myself, lost it from having to reinstall several times trying to make things work. Maybe you forget what it was like when you got started. Geeever think maybe they're just too damn lazy to go visit the site where they first got the info on how to subscribe Or maybe they just panicked, you know, not thinkin' straight, like if you fell into a pool of sharks and just wanted to get out! It's not that mean around here. We might take the occasional arm or leg, but it's very rare that you see anyone complely devoured. ;-) Bob J.
Re: [newbie] newbie-remove
Ripcrd6 wrote: -Original Message- From: Bob Jackson Steve Philp wrote: Larry Corrales wrote: newbie-remove Wrong address. Check the MandrakeSoft website for the correct address. Isn't it about time we put a footer on the bottom of list messages that includes removal instructions? It won't help. I get the KDE lists. The put the unsubscribe info in the footer on each message. The 'remove' traffic is about the same there as here. These people don't read the f*** manual or the list welcome message. They won't read the footer either. I've been trying to think of something that might help and have had no success. Maybe they're just stupid. :-( I've just started sending them all REAL simple unsub instructions. Hope they understand those. Let's hope it works. I'm thinking os a 10 page FAQ that everybody could send to them. evil grin Bob J.
Re: [newbie] 4 days without install. SUCCESS!
Regional Webmaster wrote: I have finally installed 6.0 onto my laptop. Killed the mouse by pulling the computer to tiny little bits, and then putting it back together agian, and like all good mechanics was left with a few too many screws and wires at the end of it.. I presumed this to be the mouse.. So it installed fine, will reconnect everything and see what happens now. Thank you all for your input, muchly appreciated. Glad to hear it. There's usually more than one path from here to there. Some are just a little harder to find or a bit rockier. :-) As for the extra parts, I think that they put those in to make the uninitiated nervous. ;-) Good luck Bob J.
Re: [newbie] Savage 4 Server
RICHARD FRIEDMAN wrote: Does anyone know if XFree86 3.3.5 (I think that's the most recent version) has the appropriate x server for video cards with the Savage 4 chipset? XFree86.org would know. They have a list of supported hardware. Check out their website. Bob J.
Re: [newbie] 4 days without install.
Aaron Sinclair wrote: My fourth day of attempting 6.0 installation leaves me speachless. No i am not an imbecile, yes I have half a brain.. Most of my time has been spent browsing HOWTO's FAQ's Man and LINUX Books, Unix Books, you name it and I have looked. Eerrr - have you tried just disconnecting the mouse and going ahead with the install. Maybe we can beat the mouse thingy to death once you get Mandrake installed. Bob J. PS - If you want Linux you're going to have to be ready to go under the hood and get your hands greasy at some point. Windows it ain't, and most of us consider that a _good_ thing. I've been fighting my video setup for a mounth. I'll quit fighting it when it works.
OT leavetakings Re: [newbie] Bye...
Andy Goth wrote: Sorry, guys, but I must leave this list. Most of my questions are ignored, and the list is flooded with nonsensical garbage about chix and microwaves and... well... you name it. I can be found on the expert list. Hopefully they're a little more focused. Goodbye, and thanks for all the help. I'm just heartbroken. ___ Andy Goth [EMAIL PROTECTED] zap.to/andygoth/ UIN: 35256413 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "Every group has a couple of experts. And every group has at least one idiot. Thus are balance and harmony (and discord) maintained. It's sometimes hard to remember this in the bulk of the flamewars that all of the hassle and pain is generally caused by one or two highly- motivated, caustic twits." -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], about Usenet ^^^ To quote a sig from one of the newsgroups: Irony, thy name is usenetJohn Novak (I think)
Re: [newbie] KDE/XF86Config Question - what's a viewport?
TheThingThatShouldNotBe wrote: Thanks for the reply Jon. unfortunately I don't know what a viewport is, so I would not know how to set it. Take a piece of cardboard bigger that your monitor screen, cut a rectangular hole, 4" wide by 3" high in it. Put the cardboard over your screen. The part of your screen that you can see is the viewport. To see everything on your swcreen you must move the viewport around. I've tried to illustrate this below, hope it's understandable. ASCII art, I hope this comes out ok, if not, you may have to open it in an ascii text editor. your virtual screen, say 1600x1200 ___ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | --- your actuall screen, say 640x480 _ || || || || - Your actuall screen as a viewport into your virtual screen ___ | ___| | | || | | || | | || | | || | ---| | | | | | | | | --- HTH Bob J
Re: [newbie] OT Good posting practice
Richard Adams wrote: No do as i said, contact the list owner and try and get him to put your ideas into the subscription conformation message. That's a good idea. If we agree on what should be in, I'll see if I can get them to do that. The FAQ part was to make a small section in the FAQ, maybe in the intro that gave suggestions on posting style. As for the FAQ itself, I'm trying to find out if I can get a copy of the archives so I can figure out what needs to be in the draft copy. I don't know if It'll even get made. Bob J
Re: [newbie] OT Good posting practice
"David P. Greenberg" wrote: --I agree with all but the sigs. I _love_ my sigs. Pleeease!!! David P. Greenberg Bitco Electronics "In Service to the Recording Industry" **The falcon has heard the falconer** There's a problem with that, you have a 4 line sig. Some have none, some have (shudder) ten. After several iterations we have four or five sigs cluttering the question and it's answers. Makes it real hard to follow what's going on. Leave the posters names intact so we can see who said what, but clip the sigs. You'll get to see the sigs on each reply, they just won't be copied over and over again. Bob J.
Re: [newbie] OT Good posting practice
fred wrote: I see the list says NEWBIE. This is the Internet people. OT Means off topic. If you get more than 20 emails a day and feel stressed - get another interest. This stuff is common. It also eans that this is a good place to learn how to get the maximum use from your postings. If you piss off half the group then you aren't going to get the support that you need. Good posting is vital to a newbie. Bob J.
Re: [[newbie] Cannot detect microwave (REPLY)
Fred Macinster wrote: What can I say.. I was in one of my moods. You know I see all this stuff go by Subject: Help Subject: Subject: I am dying I really like the one with no subject . That gets black holed Correct!! Blank subject is the secret code for "Hell, I didn't really want an answer to my question anyway, I just want to whine" Bob J.
[newbie] Re:
John Paul Donaldson wrote: remove surgicaly?? with a chainsaw?? Oh yeah111
Re: [[newbie] Cannot detect microwave
Ripcrd6 wrote: -Original Message- From: Bob Jackson Fred Macinster wrote: I bought this stupid OS because, the guy at the computer store said, I could manage my microwave with it. How do I detect connect to it? Who was it that said "A fool and his money ..." Bob J. ...are soon partying!" Not till he gets the microwave working. ;-) Bob J.
Re: [[newbie] Cannot detect microwave
Bluebottle wrote: Some mothers do ave um!.. Problem is they live! That can be remidied. Bob J.
Re: [newbie] 6.1 Download/Install
Mike Fieschko wrote: Try ncftp, a character based ftp client. Download. Interrupt the download. Start to retrieve the same file, and ncftp asks if you want to overwrite, resume, append or skip. Choose resume. This is called "reget", and is very useful. Running ncftp on a virtual console and switching to another virtual console allows you to "use your computer while downloading." Thanks Mike, this gets me one step closer to an all Linux and _NO_ MS life. Bob J.
Re: [newbie] I am almost ready to give up.
Caymen wrote: I got the files to get Linux to work with my Video card. I have tried everything. I read the readme in the file (using Windows) and it says to: This is the SuSE X-server for ATI RAGE 128 video cards. Install both the two packages in this directory and run Xconfigurator. For more informations, see http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html I tried putting it onto a floppy and putting into whatever file it is suposed to go into and running Xconfigurator. Well I cant figure out how to mount my Floppy. I went to a chat room and asked them. I got two different answers and neither of them worked. Well I thought if I were to put it into my RPM's in the install file, it should be there when I reinstall Linux. Guess whatNot there. Didn't do a darn thing. Is that the wrong file? What am I doing wrong? Am I destined to never use Linux? Why me? I am so close to stealing my sisters VC (ATI 3D Pro Turbo PC2TV) but the only problem is that she doesnt have an AGP slot. What can I do. I have looked everywhere in my Linux book and I can find crap in there. This is really starting to wear me down. I dont know to do this. I know in most peoples opinion, Linux is the only way to go. It is sad to say that Microsoft actually is easy to use. It is so easy to set up and everything. I want to learn Linux, but I am about to give up. Please help me, I am going to loose my mind. Why me? What a hoot! We've all been there. It's not you, it's part of learning Linux. If you'll go to linux-mandrake, click on lists and select the newbie archive you'll find a bunch of 'how to mount your floppy' posts within the last couple of weeks. You'll also find a bunch of ATI RAGE related stuff. It's a real good resource, try it. (And you'll see that you are not alone) :-) Good luck Bob J.
Re: [newbie] Re:
Martin Cleaver wrote: What am I supposed to do with these? WHen you join mailing lists, you are expected to know what to do to get off, and not to spam all its users. Martin, when you join mailing lists you must realize that a small percentage of the members are terminally lazy, stupid or both. You'll see this kind of thing on any list. Just hit delete and chalk it up to the price of communicating with the normally intelligent majority. If you feel charitable, send them a note on how to unsubscribe, or take the opportunity to flame them to atoms. Consider them comic relief. Face it, somebody's got to hold the 'really dense' slot. I'm just glad it's them. :-) Bob J.
Re: [Re: [newbie] How do I install php-3_0_9_tar.tar]
Richard Adams wrote: The above is correct, however just tellig someone to untar the file without telling him or even warn him what he is doing is going a little to far. tar files can will and have done damage to my system when i was a green newbie many moons ago. I _still_ do the following before i untar any file other than a linux kernel source tree. zless file.tar,gz all i want to see is what is in the top left hand corner, which will tell me if the tar file creates its own directory or just deposites all its files in the presant working directory, and yes there still are still idiots who create archives like that, so be warned. The best advice here is; mkdir /tmp/newfile cp file.tar.gz /tmp/newfile tar xzf file.tar.gz Thanks Richard, I hadn't been bit by this one. Now maybe I can sidestep one of the pit traps. :-) Bob J.
[newbie] Re:
"Joseph L. Czapiewski" wrote: newbie remove __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com Joseph, one of the definitions of insanity is: Repeating the same actions and expecting different results. If sending remove to the list didn't get you of the list, then sending 1000 removes to the list won't get you off the list. Sheeesh, use your brain. Go to linux-mandrake.com, click on lists, you'll find instructions on how to get off the list. No body can remove you but you. Bob J.
Re: [newbie] 6.1 Download/Install
Andrei wrote: You americans are so lucky. Here in Brazil the normal connection speed is 2 or 3KB/sec. It will take "a little" more time than you. Andei: I can't help your connection speed, but I can point you to something that will help with big downloads. Get a package called NetVampire. It only runs under W95, I don't know if there's a Linux equivalent. It will let you get packages in chunks, letting you get some each day. It runs in the background so you can use your computer while downloading. I had to get a 16+ MB file from mt motherboard maker in Tiawan. They had a real slow site (~200bps) Took me four days but I got it. Good luck Bob Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] X and kde
terry wrote: I've installed Linux-Mandrake about 6 times now and every time I do X windows just comes up blank regardless of the resolution of screen. The mouse works ok, it boots up without problems. When I execute KDE I get error messages "can't find X server" What am I doing wrong...? Frustraed...TERRY Terry, what video card do you have? What monitor? What are you choosing in setup for these? The more details you give, the better chance that someone can help. Bob J.
Re: [newbie] GO
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Re: [newbie] rpm package won't install!
Mark Hall wrote: Live and learn. Just curious, why do you FTP instead of just cp ing? Bob J. Hi Bob, I think, because my Internet ISDN connection is only (currently) on my Win NT Box and I didn't think it was possible to cp directly from NT to Linux. Do you know if it is possible to have Linux connect to the internet using my NT machine as a gateway? Nope, my bad. I was thinking same box installation. Gapped out on your setup, sorry. Bob J.
Re: [newbie] rpm package won't install!
Brandon Somogie wrote: hi just wanted to say that i also had a trio 3d bought a velocity 128 -30 bucks -- works great in 16bit. Brandon, don't smoke that stuff when you post. Bob J.
Re: [newbie] X display very odd
bgf wrote: Alright, I can't get my X display running correctly. I have a Princeton Ultra 17+ monitor and a STB Velocity 3D video card. Here's what's going on: My display has about half an inch of black on the left side and parts of the icons are cut off. The cut off parts are, however, to be found over on the right side of the screen. I have no idea what's going on. I seem to remember that there was another configuration utility other than Xconfigurator and XF86config. Is there one? I'm not sure. Ugh, I'm getting frustrated! What release of X are you using? Bob Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] rpm package won't install!
Mark Hall wrote: I'm trying to upgrade my XFree86 in the hope that the latest version will support my (so far unsupported S3 Trio3d) video card. I downloaded XFree86-3.3.5-1mdk.i586.rpm from Linux-mandrake. I did this on my Win NT box, then FTP'd the file to my Linux box. I de-installed the old XFree86: RPM -e --nodeps XFree86 I try to install the downloaded package: RPM -i XFree86-3.3.5-1mdk.i586.rpm At this point i get the message: error: XFree86-3.3.5-1mdk.i586.rpm cannot be installed Can anyone help a beginner out here. I thought I was getting a handle on this stuff. Hi Mark, a couple of silly questions, but you didn't say: 1. are you on as root? I don't think that a regular user can do this. If I'm wrong, somebody please correct me. 2. Are you in the same directory as the rpm file? I've used rpm to install this file. I've had some problems that I haven't figured out yet, but it did install. (except for the configuration parts) Give the exact steps that you used and the directories that you and the rpm file were in when you ran the command. Maybe that'll help shed some light on your problem. Bob J.
Re: [newbie] remove
"D.Vaughn" wrote: Looks like he is looking for the same thing I am...how do you get removed from this list. If you (and he) weren't too lazy to go to Mandrake.com, click on lists, and read a little instead of expecting someone else to do your research, then you'd know how to get off the list and we wouldn't have to listen to you whine. Bob Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Michael Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] remove what - Original Message - From: Rick Knospler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 13 September 1999 12:22 Subject: [newbie] remove remove
Re: [newbie] Recoverable disk space
Jeremy Kersenbrock wrote: I'm new to Linux (and this list) and am attempting to install Linux-Mandrake 6.0 on a system which currently has Win95 installed on its only hard drive with the FAT32 file system. I want to add Linux without destroying Windows or investing in a new hard drive (for a while). My problem is that I cannot recover enough room at the end of my drive in which to make the Linux partition(s). I have tried using FIPS and Ranish Partition Manager and both are convinced I can only recover about 40MB from a drive with 853MB of free space. Here is my problem, as I understand it. Please correct or make suggestions as necessary. Even though I have used the Win95 defragger to defrag the drive before I attempt to partition; there are still clusters that the defragger "will not move" that are too close to the end of the drive to allow me to recover the necessary amount of space. My Windows swap file is not part of the problem as I disabled it and then rebooted and re-defragged only to see no change in my problem. How can I move these clusters up to the front of the disk? If this is not possible, how can I verify what files are in these clusters so that I can unistall them? Jeremy If I recall correctly the files at the end of the disk are put there by certain programs. I'm not sure but I think it's things like Norton Commander and similar progs. If anybody can correct me or shed more light on this, please do. What programs are you running? If you can kill these maybe you can delete those pesky files. You can always fire them up again after you get Linux installed. I've got win95 and I stripped all non-essentials before I installed Mandrake. The defrag/partitioning went smoothly. Bob Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
