Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
I have sent you my lilo.conf off list. - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Fri, 2003-08-15 at 22:13, Cody Harris wrote: The VGA option was set to 786. On starting the computer with XFree 3.x with the edited lilo, it tired to start X about 3 times then says something about failing. On logging in as root and startxing, it says Fatal server error: No valid modes found. - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? Cody, post, or mail off-list your etc/lilo.conf file. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
You say my problem is to do with a frame buffer? Yes i have a color lilo boot menu. How do i fix this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
I'm a little confused here. Should i or shouldn't i use Xfree 4.3? I don't care about 3d support because i'm not playing any games. I'll try the lilo and stuff in a minute. - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
The VGA option was set to 786. On starting the computer with XFree 3.x with the edited lilo, it tired to start X about 3 times then says something about failing. On logging in as root and startxing, it says Fatal server error: No valid modes found. - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
- Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:10:07 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I have to use Xfree version 3 because 4 makes a lot of verticle bars and the colour gets messed up ya, that's what I got too with my old Trio64V2. I picked up an old PCI It seems to work OK if i use 640*480*8, which is not using the card accell right? Anyways, i was messing around and kinda fudged things up, and now it doesn't work at all (not even term). I'll take a look into the Beta, where can i get it? card at the junk shop, can't remember the name now. That might be a lot easier than upgrading to the newest XFree. I got some info on their list that the next version is going to have more support for S3 cards. *Or* you could try installing the new MDK 9.2 beta, I think it has a more recent version of XFree...Tom would know more about that than me, but check it out on the MDK site. Is beta under download? -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
OH! I forgot to mention, i had an instal;l of 8.1 and it worked fine. Must have changed some stuff that would cause this. - Original Message - From: Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? - Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:32:01 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Ok, i switched to XFree 4, and set resolution to 640*480*8 and did Startx and kde messed up, but startx gnome which DIDN'T start gnome, but started something else, and it worked. The problem seems to rise when i set it to anyother resolution, and KDE just doesn't seem to work. HOw do i start gnome? staertx gnome doesn't do it. exec gnome-session Hm...doesn't work...just goes to login on the term i tried it in. like I said above, the current version of XFree with MDK does not support S3 cards very well, see their site for more info. -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
- Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:19:29 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I attached the file Here's your prob right here: Section Device Identifier S3 Trio64V2 (generic) VendorName Unknown BoardName Unknown Driver vga #VideoRam1024 # Clock lines whereas your card is obviously a much more recent mfgr: S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR I would go into MCC and try to see if it will recognize that card or if it is even listed. S3 is a very problematic card, from personal exp. In MCC, go hardware-XFDrake. oh wait, you can't get into X, stupido meo, okay, you should be able to run XFDrake from the command line, IIRC. bash: XFFrake: command not found give that a shot and report back! -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
- Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:32:01 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Ok, i switched to XFree 4, and set resolution to 640*480*8 and did Startx and kde messed up, but startx gnome which DIDN'T start gnome, but started something else, and it worked. The problem seems to rise when i set it to anyother resolution, and KDE just doesn't seem to work. HOw do i start gnome? staertx gnome doesn't do it. exec gnome-session like I said above, the current version of XFree with MDK does not support S3 cards very well, see their site for more info. At least it works if i stay out of anything higher then 8 bit (800x600 works). KDE just doesn't work at all. Gnome works. IceWM or whatever works, just KDE doesn't. Weird eh? -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
- Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 19:12, ed tharp wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:17, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 09:50, Haywiremac wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that doesn't work. your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've never been through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if they may now support your card. Try frame buffer (svga) until you get X running X runs, but only in 8 bit. And where's this frame buffer thang? you are probibly using it, as that is the default driver that gets you 8 bit, and if you have a color lilo splash screen, you are using frame buffer then. If you have 8 bit color at least. I just realized, is this shared video mem? are you correctly passing the amount of available system ram to the Kernel at boot? (lilo append should have a mem=xxxM where xxx equals amount of system memory installed minus amount of shared video mem?) and what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp 440BX/ZX/DZ - 8244BX/ZX/DX Host brider (AGP disabled) (rev 03) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Inel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB// PIIX4 ISA (rev 01) 0:07.1 EID interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bride: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI 00:08.0 VGA compatable controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] 00:0a:0 Ethernet Controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DEC chip 21140 [FasterNet] (rev 20) Coppied that by hand... and cat /proc/pci say? PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (AGP disabled) (rev 3). Bus 0, device 7, function 0: ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 1). Bus 0, device 7, function 1: IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 1). I/O at 0xffa0 [0xffaf]. Bus 0, device 7, function 3: Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 0). IRQ 9. Bus 0, device 8, function 0: VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] (rev 0). Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf800 [0xfbff]. Bus 0, device 10, function 0: Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140 [FasterNet] (rev 32). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=64. I/O at 0xec00 [0xec7f]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfebff000 [0xfebf]. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Video Card incompatable?
I recently downloaded Mandrake 9.1 and was testing it. In installed it and everything worked fine from the install, SVGA, the whole bit. I restarted the computer, and when it got to starting x, that's where it had problems. The normal grey texture came up, ok, and that funny blue background ok, but as soon as it started to display the login box it just appears and before i can really even see it, it goes away and the screen flickers and goes black, and tried to load it again. It does that a few times then goes to console, not giving any errors. I log in and type startx. It loads, and the screen starts with a red baclground, and the KDE taskbar comes up for a couple seconds, then goes away. The scrren at that point stays red. I ran some tests on my video card when i was using windows and it told me: Video driver: DESCRIPTION: S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR MANUFACTURER: S3 Compatible Display Adapter BIOS: 60.00.06 DATE: 09/20/02 I went to the site and downloaded the newest drivers, but no luck. Any idea's suggestions? -Cody Harris Linux Rox My Sox! Check out HCHS! http://vectec.net Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. Registered Linux user #315598 Registered Linux Computer #200951 Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
I attached the file - Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 13:08:42 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Video driver: DESCRIPTION: S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR MANUFACTURER: S3 Compatible Display Adapter BIOS: 60.00.06 DATE: 09/20/02 I went to the site and downloaded the newest drivers, but no luck. Any idea's suggestions? How is it shown in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com XF86Config-4 Description: Binary data Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
I have to use Xfree version 3 because 4 makes a lot of verticle bars and the colour gets messed up - Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that doesn't work. your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've never been through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if they may now support your card. -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
- Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Wed, 2003-08-13 at 15:12, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 19:12, ed tharp wrote: On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:17, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 09:50, Haywiremac wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:02:37 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that doesn't work. your best bet may be to upgrade to the latest XFree, but I've never been through that process. Check xfree.org for more details, to see if they may now support your card. Try frame buffer (svga) until you get X running X runs, but only in 8 bit. And where's this frame buffer thang? you are probibly using it, as that is the default driver that gets you 8 bit, and if you have a color lilo splash screen, you are using frame buffer then. If you have 8 bit color at least. I just realized, is this shared video mem? are you correctly passing the amount of available system ram to the Kernel at boot? (lilo append should have a mem=xxxM where xxx equals amount of system memory installed minus amount of shared video mem?) and what does (as root, in a text console, without the quotes lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp 440BX/ZX/DZ - 8244BX/ZX/DX Host brider (AGP disabled) (rev 03) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Inel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB// PIIX4 ISA (rev 01) 0:07.1 EID interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bride: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI 00:08.0 VGA compatable controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] 00:0a:0 Ethernet Controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DEC chip 21140 [FasterNet] (rev 20) Coppied that by hand... and cat /proc/pci say? PCI devices found: Bus 0, device 0, function 0: Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (AGP disabled) (rev 3). Bus 0, device 7, function 0: ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 1). Bus 0, device 7, function 1: IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 1). I/O at 0xffa0 [0xffaf]. Bus 0, device 7, function 3: Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 0). IRQ 9. Bus 0, device 8, function 0: VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] (rev 0). Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf800 [0xfbff]. Bus 0, device 10, function 0: Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21140 [FasterNet] (rev 32). IRQ 11. Master Capable. Latency=64. I/O at 0xec00 [0xec7f]. Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xfebff000 [0xfebf]. __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Ok now we know you have an S3 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+ And that is a chipset I see in XFdrake under S3. try that one yet? I'm currently using Trio 64, but i can't get higher then 8 bit. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
- Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 16:29, Haywiremac wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:04:52 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Hm...doesn't work...just goes to login on the term i tried it in. then login first? I was logged in. But i changed display managers from the mandrake one to Gnome, and that works and i can choose KDE from there. Ok, try this, create a file in your home dir called .xinitrc, then edit that file so it has that line, ie. exec gnome-session. Then startx. Sorry, not a big Gnome user :P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
- Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:32:01 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Ok, i switched to XFree 4, and set resolution to 640*480*8 and did Startx and kde messed up, but startx gnome which DIDN'T start gnome, but started something else, and it worked. The problem seems to rise when i set it to anyother resolution, and KDE just doesn't seem to work. HOw do i start gnome? staertx gnome doesn't do it. exec gnome-session Hm...doesn't work...just goes to login on the term i tried it in. like I said above, the current version of XFree with MDK does not support S3 cards very well, see their site for more info. -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable?
I ran mcc from console and went to display configuration, but my card isn't listed there. I wants Trio64 (so it defaults to), but that doesn't work. - Original Message - From: Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? - Original Message - From: Haywiremac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card incompatable? On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 09:19:29 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I attached the file Here's your prob right here: Section Device Identifier S3 Trio64V2 (generic) VendorName Unknown BoardName Unknown Driver vga #VideoRam1024 # Clock lines whereas your card is obviously a much more recent mfgr: S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR I would go into MCC and try to see if it will recognize that card or if it is even listed. S3 is a very problematic card, from personal exp. In MCC, go hardware-XFDrake. oh wait, you can't get into X, stupido meo, okay, you should be able to run XFDrake from the command line, IIRC. bash: XFFrake: command not found give that a shot and report back! -- HaywireMac The more laws and order are made prominent, the more thieves and robbers there will be. -- Lao Tsu -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test again my mail does not go to list
H, it takes a while for mine to go, but they all have me filtered out so i never get a response. - Original Message - From: yankl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:54 PM Subject: [newbie] test again my mail does not go to list test Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 08:45, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 09:00, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 11:28, Cody Harris wrote: I shut down cron cron is a very important part of the GNU/Linux system, mate... I sends me e-mails like every second complaining, so i turned it off. not to sound any dumber than usual, but why not repiar why it was sending you messages? did you ever _READ_ the message? Yes! It was complaing about premission errors bout some Mailman file. But when i change it, it changes back the next time an e-mail is sent to complain about it not being writable. So i made python un readable (but then it just complain about python and saved me disk space). But after i left for one day and came back and there was 600 e-mails from the damn thing. So i simply service crond stop after not finding a way to remove it. not to seem even more dumb, but did you ask about the mailman problem? and maybe how to shut off mailman, since mailman is a mailing-list-server that you don't need, and have miss configured? My computer was out of date, and i followed the uninstall instudctions...no help when asked either. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 01:31, ed tharp wrote: not to seem even more dumb, but did you ask about the mailman problem? and maybe how to shut off mailman, since mailman is a mailing-list-server that you don't need, and have miss configured? Maybe he's the kind that changes the tire when the hubcap falls off... Sure, if the tire has a built in hub-cap. If the hub cap fell off, that would mean the tire fell off. Therefore, there had to be a defect (in the car, or in this case, MDK) or the tire (mailman). I have sucessfully removed everything but that stupid cron, which i should perminamtly remove or delete. -- Sat Jul 26 09:15:00 EST 2003 09:15:00 up 12 days, 1:18, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.16, 0.18 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * I feel like a wet parking meter on Darvon! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures Ok, do a console and type su and the root password and then type the urpmi lm_sensors and let it install, cause I don't think it is on your comp. HTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] cody]# urpmi lm_sensors no package named lm_sensors [EMAIL PROTECTED] cody]# -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 11:28, Cody Harris wrote: I shut down cron cron is a very important part of the GNU/Linux system, mate... I sends me e-mails like every second complaining, so i turned it off. -- Thu Jul 24 20:45:00 EST 2003 20:45:00 up 10 days, 12:48, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.06 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Shaman: You must be careful now to end the ceremony properly. If you leave, you must not do any work, change clothes or bathe for four days. Mulder: That's really gonna cut into my social life. The X-Files: The Blessing Way Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Other Users Running?
- Original Message - From: Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Other Users Running? On Tuesday 22 July 2003 11:13 pm, Cody Harris wrote: I know theres a command for this, but how to i get a list of all the logged in users and what they are running (and what term they are on). Thanks! -Cody Harris Linux Rox My Sox! Check out HCHS! http://vectec.net Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. Registered Linux user #315598 Registered Linux Computer #200951 Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( Ok I'll bite why wrote on a Win$ux computer ?? Why did i? I have to. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 08:58, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Friday 25 July 2003 00:11, Stephen Kuhn wrote: Look, I'd be more than happy to answer real questions for Cody if Cody wanted to make use of the information properly, run his system properly, answer threaded emails properly, have some decency and respect for those of us that are willing to lend a hand instead of constantly biting the hand that feeds... My rant is over with. I second the rant...Cody does seem to take the easy way out or has to review his attitude. Is that about cron? I've tried here with the cron issue before but nobody responded. BTW: Stephen on trying to find this mail back so I could reply to it...I saw (whilst doing a search on kuhn) that you've sent 1642 messages to this list since 9.1 is out (i.e. 9.0 wasn't a topic anymore). Incredible for someone who has dial-up.keep on trucking:o) Tanx mate. Living on karma. -- Fri Jul 25 09:05:01 EST 2003 09:05:01 up 11 days, 1:08, 3 users, load average: 0.30, 0.40, 0.38 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * O! Wanderers in the shadowed land despair not! For though dark they stand, all woods there be must end at last, and see the open sun go past: the setting sun, the rising sun, the day's end, or the day begun. For east or west all woods must fail ... -- J. R. R. Tolkien Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Friday 25 July 2003 01:13, Cody Harris wrote: Is that about cron? I've tried here with the cron issue before but nobody responded. Nah, it's a while back when you were messing with a coyote boot disk and a laptop.remember? Maybe you didn't mean to be shitheaded in respect to Femme but I didn't read you putting it right either. Speaking of which...what ever happened to that person? -- Good luck, HarM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Thursday 24 July 2003 06:18 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: Hmmm, I missed something here. But then the email is a bit flakey for me lately. Some threads are not threading. For one upsmanship Stephen, I am having a mid-year crises as well as a thermal breakdown. : p Geeez, I'm getting replies before original questions and replies to replies and not the original replies, what a mess. Yes, i'm getting messages back that i sent before messages i just sent that i just got. -- Regards Chris A 100% Microsoft free computer Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 7:18pm up 33 days, 1:34, 6 users, load average: 0.20, 0.23, 0.15 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Thursday 24 July 2003 06:12 pm, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Thursday 24 July 2003 08:02 am, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures Ok, do a console and type su and the root password and then type the urpmi lm_sensors and let it install, cause I don't think it is on your comp. HTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] cody]# urpmi lm_sensors no package named lm_sensors [EMAIL PROTECTED] cody]# Cody, try MCC and see what it shows for lm_sensors in the install software side. If nothing shows what do you have set up for your software sources. You need CD3 as a source for the urpmi prog to find lm_sensors. Let us know what you see. lm_sensors is definitely available from CD3. HTH I have 8.1 for the record. I'll take a look. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 -- - - Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Aha! the problem is apparent, I don't think 8.1 had lm_sensors and it may not work with 8.1 but in that case go to rpmfind.net and search on lm_sensors. I would get one of the older versions cause I doubt a newer one will work with 8.1. The other consideration is if your Motherboard has sensors on it. Do you get temp and fan readings when you boot? If you see them then the MOBO should work. Which board do you have? luck, My boot is a gui, it says Compaq in red letters. Nothing more, nothing less. My new computer which DOES have temp doesn't show anything either. PS: I have a compaq 4500 P1. Don't all boards have temp? PSS: I don't have a moniter on that computer. I use SSH. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Thursday 24 July 2003 08:13 pm, Cody Harris wrote: Speaking of which...what ever happened to that person? Wouldn't mess with her, if'n I was you... Avid gamer - she'd probably just BFG9000 ya and leave your fragged carcass by the wayside... lol Ha ha, i love doom. My friend makes maps. But these dayz i don't have much time. My webhosting business is up to 450 demanding users. And only one of me. Busy busy busy! -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Robotics
- Original Message - From: James Henry Maiewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:51 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Robotics On Wednesday 23 July 2003 07:49 am, Marc O wrote: On Wednesday 23 July 2003 12:00 am, SoloCDM wrote: On Tue, 22 Jul 2003, Cody Harris wrote: Hm...i can say i want to start into electronics/robotics. My techie friend said that i should buy an 8 bit controller that i can download a program to. Would anyone know of such of a processor? How about any mailing lists? Sites? Anything? You can mail me directly if you wish You'll need to try electronic magazines for that type of information/hardware. No doubt you could find an abundant amount of sites on the Internet through retailers and distributors. Have a look at Nuts And Volts Magazine they have at least one in depth article each month on robotics and adds from a lot of venders selling robotics stuff. Marc KM5KW Dude! Thank you for mentioning Nuts Volts! I've just checked out their site, and I think I'm hooked (also thanks to the owner of this thread, I've been thinking about this topic for some time.) What section is Nuts Volts in? I havn't seen it in any chapters stores in the areas. And it isn't my thread, it everyones. Jim. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] C++ Compiler?
Will gcc compile C++ code? -Cody Harris Linux Rox My Sox! Check out HCHS! http://vectec.net Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. Registered Linux user #315598 Registered Linux Computer #200951 Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] C++ Compiler?
Why is yout message blank? - Original Message - From: Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] C++ Compiler? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
I googled, but i didn't find anything. Know of any C lists? - Original Message - From: Troy Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures You'll probably get better help with that question if you asked it on a C progamming list or maybe if you Googled around for some info. Just a suggestion. Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Quoting Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If i'm in C, how can i grab the system temperatures? Or how about the load and all that jazz? Do i make a pointer? If so, to where? -Cody Harris Linux Rox My Sox! Check out HCHS! http://vectec.net Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. Registered Linux user #315598 Registered Linux Computer #200951 Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 07:39, Cody Harris wrote: If i'm in C, how can i grab the system temperatures? Or how about the load and all that jazz? Do i make a pointer? If so, to where? -Cody Harris Open side of case - tape thermometer to CPU, another to system board and another to your hard drive. Just be careful they don't explode and spread mercury all over your mobo. (Actually, you can look through the source code for lm_sensors - and in the /proc directory for info on your sensors mate) What file? -- Thu Jul 24 10:25:00 EST 2003 10:25:00 up 10 days, 2:28, 2 users, load average: 0.29, 0.45, 0.36 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * 3. ...and after I patched the microcode... --Top 100 things you don't want the sysadmin to say Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures Cody, do a locate lm_sensors in a term and see where your system put them, if they don't show up do it as su, and if they don't still show up you need to install the sucker. Probably find them in /etc somewhere. HTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]# locate lm_sensors warning: locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old [EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]# -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 11:01, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures Cody, do a locate lm_sensors in a term and see where your system put them, if they don't show up do it as su, and if they don't still show up you need to install the sucker. Probably find them in /etc somewhere. HTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]# locate lm_sensors warning: locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old [EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]# Open a term and type: updatedb ...sit back for a few minutes whilst it updates the database. Rather surprised it's not running as a cron job on that system. I shut down cron -- Thu Jul 24 11:25:00 EST 2003 11:25:01 up 10 days, 3:28, 2 users, load average: 0.29, 0.22, 0.23 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Your good nature will bring unbounded happiness. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 11:01, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: Dennis Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Getting System Temperatures Cody, do a locate lm_sensors in a term and see where your system put them, if they don't show up do it as su, and if they don't still show up you need to install the sucker. Probably find them in /etc somewhere. HTH [EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]# locate lm_sensors warning: locate: warning: database /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db' is more than 8 days old [EMAIL PROTECTED] proc]# Open a term and type: updatedb ...sit back for a few minutes whilst it updates the database. [EMAIL PROTECTED] cody]# locate lm_sensors [EMAIL PROTECTED] cody]# Rather surprised it's not running as a cron job on that system. -- Thu Jul 24 11:25:00 EST 2003 11:25:01 up 10 days, 3:28, 2 users, load average: 0.29, 0.22, 0.23 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Your good nature will bring unbounded happiness. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] [OT] Robotics
Hm...i can say i want to start into electronics/robotics. My techie friend said that i should buy an 8 bit controller that i can download a program to. Would anyone know of such of a processor? How about any mailing lists? Sites? Anything? You can mail me directly if you wish -Cody Harris Linux Rox My Sox! Check out HCHS! http://vectec.net Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. Registered Linux user #315598 Registered Linux Computer #200951 Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Other Users Running?
I know theres a command for this, but how to i get a list of all the logged in users and what they are running (and what term they are on). Thanks! -Cody Harris Linux Rox My Sox! Check out HCHS! http://vectec.net Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. Registered Linux user #315598 Registered Linux Computer #200951 Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users.
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] [OT] US propose jail for KaZaA users. On Sat, 2003-07-19 at 01:31, Inhabitant of Zion wrote: Hi You guys should really read this its outragious - if its true! http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/31800.html John Very typical of US administrations to place more emphasis on catching low end crime instead of focusing on say, uh, terrorist activity, drug traffic, mafia(s), violent crime, drunk driving...and of course, the courts will benefit from high legal costs, lawyers will benefit, and of course, the RIAA will benefit...the artists will still get schtupped like they've been getting schtupped and ditto with the public. If recording music is so illegal, then they shouldn't sell cassette recorders - because you can tape copyrighted music from the radio...but y'all don't see'em jumping on THAT bandwagon, now do ya? I'm just glad i don't live in the states...(if that does happen) But i agree with what Stephen says. It's all yet another means by which THEY want to control content and media on the internet. By playing the games they're playingn, they're only going to make it worse, anyways. Viva the pirate! -- Sat Jul 19 01:45:00 EST 2003 01:45:00 up 4 days, 17:48, 2 users, load average: 0.37, 0.43, 0.41 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Tracers work both ways -- Murphy's Military Laws n103 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix and POP3
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Postfix and POP3 On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 13:38, JoeHill wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:14:22 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Isn't that what pop is? It holds mail until you want to download it...oops...i guess i didn't mean to quote download...ah well. No, I want to have Postfix retrieve the mail from my ISP's POP3 server, then hold it on my server. So you want NOT to use FETCHMAIL to grab the mail from the server - you're wanting to have your LINUX box, using a fully qualified dns name, to grab the mail with POSTFIX as though it was sucking mail for an entire domain? I have cucipop, a pop server. Will fetchmail dum,p my mail there? Right now [EMAIL PROTECTED] will go to cucipop... ...are you sure you ain't been smoking something funny? Yea, but that was late last night. -- Thu Jul 17 14:00:00 EST 2003 14:00:00 up 3 days, 6:03, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.15, 0.16 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * My family history begins with me, but yours ends with you. -- Iphicrates Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix and POP3
- Original Message - From: Frankie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:37 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Postfix and POP3 Todd, Trend filescan for linux is free.. What's that? I have been using it for several years.. its great. and trophie is free also, its what turns filecan into a daemonised scanner. If you can't find filescan, let me know and I can put the tarball up for you. on the amavis homepage (not the amavis-new one, I mean amavis.org) in the contrib section is a post from me on how to get it, how to install it on mandrake and how to update the engine etc... rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Todd Slater Well, I think I have amavisd-new and ClamAV and Clamd working. 2 of the 3 test mails that came with amavisd-new made it through :( Since I have no budget, I'll have to stick to a free (as in beer) solution. Unfortunately, Sophos and Trend are not free. Hopefully Clam* gets better fast. Anyway not too much of a problem since just about every other mail provider from ISP's to hotmail have virus scanners as well. Thanks, Todd -- If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all. -Noam Chomsky Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aiuto !!
- Original Message - From: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] aiuto !! On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:38:52 -0700 Roland Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Hell Joe as a fellow canadian I nominate you to answer all the italian posting after doing such a good job! Thank you, but you don't know I didn't just run it through Babelfish ;) All Latin languages have the same basic phonemes and syntax, so once you know a bit of French you can easily pick out enough words as long as the person is using simple direct sentences. I had a 90 in french this year...only one to get all verbs right on the exam...now i can't remember anything 1-10...dunno the days of the week. AH! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net ** Filtering out noise is one way to get a clearer signal. ** 22:14:25 up 2:19, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.02, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix and POP3
So you want postfix to grab stuff from a pop and send it to others? - Original Message - From: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:58 PM Subject: [newbie] Postfix and POP3 I am looking for some concise info on getting Postfix to pick up my POP3 mail and then farm it out to other clients on the LAN. The postfix docs, so far as I have, er, scanned...have nothing specific to this setup, so I am wondering if that is in fact what PostFix is intended for. I want to keep this simple so that one dedicated machine pops my mailserver, then me and my wife (who uses Lookout! Express ouch) grab it by whatever protocol (POP preferred I guess for simplicity's sake. All the howtos I see have to do with setting up your own e-mail *domain*, which is not quite what I want to do, well, not until I learn how to configure a DNS server g. Thanks all! -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net ** Filtering out noise is one way to get a clearer signal. ** 22:18:16 up 2:23, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aiuto !!
- Original Message - From: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] aiuto !! On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:30:46 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I had a 90 in french this year...only one to get all verbs right on the exam...now i can't remember anything 1-10...dunno the days of the week. AH! Just imagine, it's been 20 years for me! My friend sayed that i'd have trouble on my resume under fluent languages because i'd have to out none. English class isn't my strong point, and i can't spell. Science and math are my strong points. 103 on my cehmistry test and 100 on phisics. 90 some on biology but i don't need that. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net ** Filtering out noise is one way to get a clearer signal. ** 23:01:04 up 3:06, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix and POP3
- Original Message - From: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:14 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Postfix and POP3 On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:00:50 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: So you want postfix to grab stuff from a pop and send it to others? No, Postfix should, I'm assuming, be able to hold the mail so that clients can retrieve it on demand. Isn't that what pop is? It holds mail until you want to download it...oops...i guess i didn't mean to quote download...ah well. -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net ** Filtering out noise is one way to get a clearer signal. ** 23:12:54 up 3:17, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aiuto !!
Lo avete detto eravate italiani? - Original Message - From: Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] aiuto !! -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 16 July 2003 23:16, JoeHill wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:38:52 -0700 Roland Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Hell Joe as a fellow canadian I nominate you to answer all the italian posting after doing such a good job! Thank you, but you don't know I didn't just run it through Babelfish ;) All Latin languages have the same basic phonemes and syntax, so once you know a bit of French you can easily pick out enough words as long as the person is using simple direct sentences. I understand what his problem is: he wants to uninstall 8.2 because there is a window denying permission to him to log in. He has Windows, Mandrake 8.2 and 9.1 installed. The other problem is: will he understand the answers the list may give ? JM -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/FhUI4eVBtrgQWDsRAsLhAJ9BscQ7vdCQiNjv20tgcRHpY6VC+QCffuRd PuP42hPhPzFf/ySu40MlejY= =iVJ3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] aiuto !!
- Original Message - From: Josenildo Marques [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] aiuto !! -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 17 July 2003 00:04, Cody Harris wrote: - Original Message - From: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] aiuto !! On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:30:46 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I had a 90 in french this year...only one to get all verbs right on the exam...now i can't remember anything 1-10...dunno the days of the week. AH! Just imagine, it's been 20 years for me! My friend sayed that i'd have trouble on my resume under fluent languages because i'd have to out none. English class isn't my strong point, and i can't spell. Science and math are my strong points. 103 on my cehmistry test and 100 on phisics. 90 some on biology but i don't need that. Cody Harris We are antipodal. I love the Humanities and don't like the exact sciences. Oh well. I had to look up antipodal lol. Main Entry: 1an·tip·o·dal Pronunciation: an-'ti-p-dl Function: adjective Date: 1646 1 : of or relating to the antipodes; specifically : situated at the opposite side of the earth or moon an antipodal meridian an antipodal continent 2 : diametrically opposite an antipodal point on a sphere 3 : entirely opposed a system antipodal to democracy JM -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/FhbO4eVBtrgQWDsRAlP+AJ9lmFD8K0GH9NkuGNeDuUMz7a114ACfY4Xt Qe+mkx3ZnGGO/nveVmfq/c0= =HjY4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com audio.gifWant to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix and POP3
- Original Message - From: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Postfix and POP3 On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 00:14:22 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Isn't that what pop is? It holds mail until you want to download it...oops...i guess i didn't mean to quote download...ah well. No, I want to have Postfix retrieve the mail from my ISP's POP3 server, then hold it on my server. Oh, you want fetchmail for that...i think -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net ** Filtering out noise is one way to get a clearer signal. ** 23:37:42 up 3:42, 2 users, load average: 0.03, 0.02, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix and POP3
- Original Message - From: JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Postfix and POP3 On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:26:49 -0400 Todd Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Would fetchmail do the trick? Fetchmail can get mail from all your POP3 and/or IMAP accounts and put the mails in a local user spool (/var/spool/mail/user) which could then be sent on via forward or retrieved by POP3 or IMAP. Or am I misunderstanding what you want to do? It's just that I'd like to learn how to use Postfix, and this could be a good beginners project... let me know how it works out...oh, joe, what's your private e-mail? -- Joehill Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: http://nodex.sytes.net ** Filtering out noise is one way to get a clearer signal. ** 23:53:35 up 3:58, 3 users, load average: 0.03, 0.03, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Postfix and POP3
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Postfix and POP3 On Thu, 2003-07-17 at 12:58, JoeHill wrote: I am looking for some concise info on getting Postfix to pick up my POP3 mail and then farm it out to other clients on the LAN. The postfix docs, so far as I have, er, scanned...have nothing specific to this setup, so I am wondering if that is in fact what PostFix is intended for. I want to keep this simple so that one dedicated machine pops my mailserver, then me and my wife (who uses Lookout! Express ouch) grab it by whatever protocol (POP preferred I guess for simplicity's sake. All the howtos I see have to do with setting up your own e-mail *domain*, which is not quite what I want to do, well, not until I learn how to configure a DNS server g. Thanks all! Why not use FETCHMAIL to snag the mail for everyone and toss it to their accounts on the linux box, then the incoming mail can be run through PROCMAIL and milter and SpamAssassin, then have all the boxes on the lan access the mail via either IMAP or POP3 from the linux box...? And you can set up all the outbound SMTP to run through that same linux box so that it can be scanned with like CLAMAV on it's way out...ay? You lost me... -- Thu Jul 17 13:25:00 EST 2003 13:25:00 up 3 days, 5:28, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.07 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The sight of death frightens them [Earthers]. -- Kras the Klingon, Friday's Child, stardate 3497.2 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 4:18 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:27, Miark wrote: urpmi.remove your CD sources. Configure a distribution urpmi source. Then urpmi whois. Miark I thought that whois would have been installed by default the first time around; or is that on RH ---??? Didn't for me! -- Tue Jul 15 17:15:01 EST 2003 17:15:01 up 1 day, 9:18, 2 users, load average: 0.03, 0.12, 0.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Do your otters do the shimmy? Do they like to shake their tails? Do your wombats sleep in tophats? Is your garden full of snails? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois
- Original Message - From: Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandrake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 21:05, Cody Harris wrote: Didn't for me! But now it's safe to assume that you've installed it and are happily identifying every server, domain, gateway and whatnot? Nope. I've decidied not to installed because i have to use that urpmi thing. -- Tue Jul 15 21:30:00 EST 2003 21:30:00 up 1 day, 13:33, 2 users, load average: 1.25, 1.07, 0.63 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * QOTD: If he learns from his mistakes, pretty soon he'll know everything. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Find the Source!
Full duplex is like a phone, half-duplex is like walkie talkies. - Original Message - From: James Henry Maiewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 12:49 AM Subject: [newbie] Find the Source! Hello, I'm trying to install the source code for Krec (K - Multimedia - Sound - Krec), which I believe is in kdemultimedia-3.1-10mdk.src.rpm. I've done this and haven't the foggiest idea where it was installed (if, indeed, this was the source). grpmi tells me that everything was installed, but there is nothing in /usr/src, and the find file tool gives me nothing (although I'm unclear what the files might be called, and I can't seem to get rpmdrake to acknowledge any source excepting the kernel). How stupid am I? By the way, has anyone successfully recorded anything via Krec? I can record with a C program I copied from the 1996 LINUX Multimedia Guide by Jeff Tranter (O'Reilly), but not with Krec. Relatedly, what exactly is the difference does enable full duplex make? Krec requires it, but my homespun won't work at all. With an advance of thanks, -Jim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE
So Win4Lin is like VPC for Win? - Original Message - From: John Drouhard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:51:46 -0500 Harv Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm one step closer to dumping the Windows box altogether. Is there any advantage to Win4Lin over WINE? Are they pretty much the same thing? Is there any advantage to using one over the other ... or both? Any other cautions, caveats, evaluations, comments you'd care to give are much appreciated. Thanks Harv/AI9NL What exactly do you plan to be doing with windows programs? Games? Office applications? With Win4Lin, you need a windows os cd, because you actually install a windows system to your linux partition. You then run Windows like a linux application, and the desktop, start menu, and taskbar appears at the bottom. It does a nice job doing office applications, but may be a little more than what you need. With Wine, you can run office apps from an existing windows partition, or if that isn't there, you can just install the office app by issuing the wine command. There is no installation of windows necessary. Codeweavers has a product called Crossover Office that can run Adobe Photoshop, MIcrosoft Office XP, Office 2000, and Office 97, Lotus Notes, and some others. It's not quite as expensive as Win4Lin, and does its job well. The best part is that it has a nice, easy to understand GUI to install programs. The free version of wine may have support for Microsoft Office, but I'm not completely sure. HTH, John Drouhard -- Tue Jul 15 19:30:26 CDT 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE
VPC stands for Virtual PC. You can run any OS in a window and run more then on OS at once. Right now it's for Windows, Mac, And OS/2 only. http://vectec.net/vpc2.png - Original Message - From: Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 10:27 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Win4Lin vs WINE What is VPC? So Win4Lin is like VPC for Win? Basically. It can't run linux inside of windows like VPC can, and the core code is different. AFAIK, It does the same thing. Correct me if I'm wrong. John Drouhard -- Tue Jul 15 20:11:55 CDT 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] [RS] Whois
This message didn't get through, so i'm resending it. - Original Message - From: Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 12:09 AM Subject: Whois Is there a program that i can WHOIS from command line? -Cody Harris Linux Rox My Sox! Check out HCHS! http://vectec.net Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. Registered Linux user #315598 Registered Linux Computer #200951 Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lm sensors is lying
Do all cpus have a sensor? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] lm sensors is lying On Monday 14 July 2003 06:55 pm, Miark wrote: Here's my sensors output. Note the temperature of 127°C. Call me crazy (shut up, Stephen) but I think this is probably inaccurate :-) How do I fix the reading? Ahh, mine looked exactly like this until Tom Brinkman stepped in and lent a hand. Try this: If you're usin 'lm80' in rc.local, try 'lm75', or vice versa. lm75 should be better for kt133 chipsets. That fixed my problem and my sensors output looked exactly like yours before I made the change. # I2C adapter drivers modprobe i2c-viapro modprobe i2c-isa # I2C chip drivers modprobe lm75 modprobe eeprom modprobe via686a Hope this helps ya. -- Regards Chris A 100% Microsoft free computer Registered Linux User 283774 http://counter.li.org 7:22pm up 23 days, 1:36, 6 users, load average: 0.24, 0.20, 0.14 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois
- Original Message - From: Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois On Monday 14 July 2003 06:24 pm, Cody Harris wrote: This message didn't get through, so i'm resending it. - Original Message - From: Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 12:09 AM Subject: Whois Is there a program that i can WHOIS from command line? Yes, for 9.1 it is in whois-4.6.1-1mdk. I have 8.1 Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois
It wants disk 2. I don't have disk 2. - Original Message - From: Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois If you have urpmi sources configured, just urpmi whois and you'll be set. Miark On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:42:07 -0300, Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois On Monday 14 July 2003 06:24 pm, Cody Harris wrote: This message didn't get through, so i'm resending it. - Original Message - From: Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mandake Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 12:09 AM Subject: Whois Is there a program that i can WHOIS from command line? Yes, for 9.1 it is in whois-4.6.1-1mdk. I have 8.1 Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. -- -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] user web pages
/home 755 /home/*/ 755 /home/*/public_html 755 At 07:58 AM 7/4/2003 +0530, you wrote: I have my web pages in my home folder under public_html. I can view them using http://dgmcellnx/~lvgandhi/index.html. The machine is network. When I try to view it from other machines in network I get error permission denied and also error 403. in /etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf, I have IfModule mod_userdir.c UserDir public_html /IfModule Directory /home/*/public_html AllowOverride All Options MultiViews -Indexes Includes FollowSymLinks IfModule mod_access.c Order allow,deny Allow from all /IfModule /Directory What corrections are needed so others in the same network can browse the files. -- L.V.Gandhi 203, Soundaryalahari Apartments, Lawsons Bay colony, Visakhapatnam, 530017 MECON, 5th Floor, RTC Complex, Visakhapatnam AP 530020 INDIA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Password Protection?
At 11:14 PM 7/4/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 22:47, Cody Harris wrote: At 12:54 PM 7/4/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 11:57, Cody Harris wrote: Is there a way to impose a type of password protection onto folders? -Cody Harris Yes. How? One way is by creating specific GROUPS with specific access rights to specific folders - and actually, using something like Webmin and KUser are great for this... But that's not Please enter a password to gain access -- Fri Jul 4 23:10:01 EST 2003 23:10:01 up 2 days, 12:30, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.03 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Never say no -- Murphy's Laws on Sex n45 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Password Protection?
At 09:19 AM 7/4/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 10:16:02AM -0300, Cody Harris wrote: At 11:14 PM 7/4/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 22:47, Cody Harris wrote: At 12:54 PM 7/4/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 11:57, Cody Harris wrote: Is there a way to impose a type of password protection onto folders? -Cody Harris Yes. How? One way is by creating specific GROUPS with specific access rights to specific folders - and actually, using something like Webmin and KUser are great for this... But that's not Please enter a password to gain access Why in the world would you want that? If a user is logged in, he or she has authenticated. Add the user to a group and be done with it! But can a user belong to more then one group? Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Password Protection?
At 10:52 AM 7/5/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 23:36, Cody Harris wrote: Why in the world would you want that? If a user is logged in, he or she has authenticated. Add the user to a group and be done with it! But can a user belong to more then one group? Yes. Yay for one word answers. -- Sat Jul 5 10:50:00 EST 2003 10:50:00 up 3 days, 10 min, 2 users, load average: 0.87, 0.63, 0.38 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The Second Law of Thermodynamics: If you think things are in a mess now, just wait! -- Jim Warner Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm being DoSed!
Is the a reply too all: I rerouted my connection to Linux (it was attacking another comp) and attempted to use IPCHAINS in webmin, but my IPCHAINS are too old. i just hit reboot. It took my site down for 10 minutes while linux started and it forced stupid crond to load as well as unmount my network. Ah well. It's all good now. I will, however, keep these e-mails incase it happens again. At 12:42 PM 7/3/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 10:20, Cody Harris wrote: I want to deny 128.175.241.43 from being connected to my, how do i do it!? I'm being Dosed! 100 or more connecvtions at once! HELP! -Cody Harris Use Ethereal to find out what ports it's trying to flood out, then close the ports. So I take it you haven't installed portsentry and all that jazz yet? (If you can't find portsentry on the web, I have it stashed at: http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/files/ ...just in case, mate...) -- Thu Jul 3 12:40:00 EST 2003 12:40:00 up 1 day, 2:00, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.11, 0.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- The justifications for drug testing are part of the presently fashionable debate concerning restoring America's competitiveness. Drugs, it has been revealed, are responsible for rampant absenteeism, reduced output, and poor quality work. But is drug testing in fact rationally related to the resurrection of competitiveness? Will charging the atmosphere of the workplace with the fear of excretory betrayal honestly spur productivity? Much noise has been made about rehabilitating the worker using drugs, but to date the vast majority of programs end with the simple firing or the not hiring of the abuser. This practice may exacerbate, not alleviate, the nation's productivity problem. If economic rehabilitation is the ultimate goal of drug testing, then criteria abandoning the rehabilitation of the drug-using worker is the purest of hypocrisy and the worst of rationalization. -- The concluding paragraph of Constitutional Law: The Fourth Amendment and Drug Testing in the Workplace, Tim Moore, Harvard Journal of Law Public Policy, vol. 10, No. 3 (Summer 1987), pp. 762-768. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Password Protection?
Is there a way to impose a type of password protection onto folders? -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] GFX Card problem
Hello, i have a 2.13 GHZ 512 MB Compaq Computer wirh a pro savage DRR (32) video card trying to install Mandrake 9.1. I tried configuring X-Windows but each the all i get is vertical bars. What can i do? -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] I'm being DoSed!
I want to deny 128.175.241.43 from being connected to my, how do i do it!? I'm being Dosed! 100 or more connecvtions at once! HELP! -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IRC Server
At 12:21 PM 7/1/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 11:47, Cody Harris wrote: Could you be a little more specific? I used: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# urpmi ircd Please insert the medium named disc 3 Supplementary Applications CD (x86) (cdrom3) on device [/dev/cdrom] You're going to need to update the CD sources, mate. I downloaded and made the CD from the ISO. Meanwhile, you should be able to just pop in the CD, navigate to where it's at, double-click on it, and voila! You have it! I need command linei forget the RPM commandline for installing...(I'm working from SSH) Best to check with your ISP prior to running and IRC server on a client machine to their network, though - you might get yourself banned quickly or have them cancel your account as in most cases, they deem it as illegal... It won't be on 24/7. Maybe 30 minutes every month. I don't have re resources. MySQL runs slow enough as it is. -- Tue Jul 1 12:15:01 EST 2003 12:15:01 up 6 days, 12:01, 3 users, load average: 1.09, 1.12, 1.04 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * BOFH excuse #99: SIMM crosstalk. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] IRC Server
Is there an IRC server that anyone knows of? -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTP Server
At 07:51 AM 6/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: On Thursday 12 Jun 2003 2:03 am, Cody Harris wrote: At 03:01 AM 6/12/2003 +0200, you wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 02:42, Cody Harris wrote: As a second comment, this is over my head and i'm going to drop it. How do you uninstall? That's not the way... You don't want to learn things ? Is it worth is though? If you're not doing version control (RCS, CVS) between your machines, and you don't have a time fixation, and you don't mind reseting the clock every week, then probably no. What's RCS and CVS? It's a good thing to learn though, and ISTR there is a good HOWTO on it. ISTR? -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] NTP Server
Is NTP server not the server you can use to update a clock remotely? -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTP Server
At 09:42 AM 6/12/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 09:34, Cody Harris wrote: Is it compatable with Windoze's auto time update? NTP is a protocol that was developed on UNIX for UNIX. The question should be: Is Windows compatible with it? The answer is yes, though. Where's the configuration file for it? XP doesn't seem to accept it. -- Thu Jun 12 09:40:00 EST 2003 09:40:00 up 9:38, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.10, 0.11 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * UH-OH!! I think KEN is OVER-DUE on his R.V. PAYMENTS and HE'S having a NERVOUS BREAKDOWN too!! Ha ha. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++-+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTP Server
At 01:28 AM 6/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: On Thursday 12 Jun 2003 12:47 am, Cody Harris wrote: At 09:42 AM 6/12/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 09:34, Cody Harris wrote: Is it compatable with Windoze's auto time update? NTP is a protocol that was developed on UNIX for UNIX. The question should be: Is Windows compatible with it? The answer is yes, though. Where's the configuration file for it? XP doesn't seem to accept it. -Cody Harris Like all configuration it is in /etc /etc/ntp and /etc/ntp.conf The easy way to set it up is to install drakwizard and run the Time server wizard in Mandrake Control Centre Don't got no X. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTP Server
At 09:39 PM 6/11/2003 -0300, you wrote: At 01:28 AM 6/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: On Thursday 12 Jun 2003 12:47 am, Cody Harris wrote: At 09:42 AM 6/12/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 09:34, Cody Harris wrote: Is it compatable with Windoze's auto time update? NTP is a protocol that was developed on UNIX for UNIX. The question should be: Is Windows compatible with it? The answer is yes, though. Where's the configuration file for it? XP doesn't seem to accept it. -Cody Harris Like all configuration it is in /etc /etc/ntp and /etc/ntp.conf As a second comment, this is over my head and i'm going to drop it. How do you uninstall? The easy way to set it up is to install drakwizard and run the Time server wizard in Mandrake Control Centre Don't got no X. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTP Server
At 03:01 AM 6/12/2003 +0200, you wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 02:42, Cody Harris wrote: As a second comment, this is over my head and i'm going to drop it. How do you uninstall? That's not the way... You don't want to learn things ? Is it worth is though? Steven Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NTP Server
At 07:11 PM 6/11/2003 -0600, you wrote: Quoting Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Don't got no X. MCC doesn't need X. Login as root and type 'mcc'. I'm in mcc, now where do i go? Troy Davidson Linux User #311107 ++ Follow the adventures of a real life computer and gaming nerd! www.clandaith.com ++ ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | This Signature is best in plain text! | ++--+ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HIJACKED: FTP Access
At 06:36 PM 6/9/2003 -0700, you wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-09 at 16:23, Cody Harris wrote: That's because it is. WHY? It wastes my time setting it to plain, then back to plain styled. At 05:17 PM 6/9/2003 -0600, you wrote: At 07:12 PM 6/9/2003 -0300, you wrote: Ok, i'll try plain text. Joy! Don't make it sound so painful though... sheesh. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Aron Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FTP Access
At 10:08 PM 6/9/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 18:29:31 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a second annoymous FTP account called r-and-e. I need it to be in folder /mnt/network/r-and-e. The conf file and documentation kinda confuses me. Oh, this folder can't be witeable either. Well, first you'll need to create the user and group. You can do that with UserDrake or whatever you prefer for that. For the shell, you want to specify /sbin/nologin so they can't log in to your machine as a regular user. From proftpd documentation: http://www.proftpd.org/docs/faq/linked/faq-ch5.html#AEN559 Add to your /etc/proftpd.conf file Anonymous ~username AnonRequirePassword off User username Group groupname RequireValidShell off Directory * Limit WRITE DenyAll /Limit /Directory /Anonymous That lets them log on using whatever username you give and will take an email addy for a password. They are not allowed to write to any directory. The trick is to have the ftp look in a directory that's not in /var/ftp. You can use another directory as ftp document root, but I think you have tomount it as that. See http://proftpd.linux.co.uk/localsite/Userguide/linked/chroot-symlinks.html for instructions on that. Thanks a lot. Have a good day. HTH, Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HIJACKED: FTP Access
At 08:47 PM 6/9/2003 -0600, you wrote: At 08:23 PM 6/9/2003 -0300, you wrote: That's because it is. officially dev/nulled. sigh i give up Ok, do what you want, but i'm going to send plain text. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HIJACKED: FTP Access
At 09:23 AM 6/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: On Tuesday 10 Jun 2003 12:23 am, Cody Harris wrote: That's because it is. At 05:17 PM 6/9/2003 -0600, you wrote: At 07:12 PM 6/9/2003 -0300, you wrote: Ok, i'll try plain text. Joy! Don't make it sound so painful though... sheesh. I'm sorry, but there is a limit as to how long any of us can tolerate deliberate bad manners. You have wasted our time and bandwidth with arguing something that should have been simply accepted as a requirement of this list - a voluntary mutual help list. In addition, you continue to include the whole long text of previous mail to add just a few words. Finally, you add deliberate rudeness. The number of people still willing to read your posts and help you is diminishing rapidly. Anne If we stop talking about it then i won't complain. Agree? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] FTP Access
Error: +-Error + ¦ Invalid command interpreter ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ +--+ ¦ ¦ ¦Ok¦ ¦ ¦ +--+ ¦ +---+ Settings: Username: r-and-e Group: hchs-user Home Dir: /mnt/network/r-and-e Command interpreter: /sbin/nologin This e-mail has been made for PLAIN TEXT From proftpd documentation: http://www.proftpd.org/docs/faq/linked/faq-ch5.html#AEN559 Add to your /etc/proftpd.conf file Anonymous ~username AnonRequirePassword off User username Group groupname RequireValidShell off Directory * Limit WRITE DenyAll /Limit /Directory /Anonymous That lets them log on using whatever username you give and will take an email addy for a password. They are not allowed to write to any directory. The trick is to have the ftp look in a directory that's not in /var/ftp. You can use another directory as ftp document root, but I think you have tomount it as that. See http://proftpd.linux.co.uk/localsite/Userguide/linked/chroot-symlinks.html for instructions on that. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Picture Updater?
Does anyone know of a program that can refresh a pictures from webcam on a regular basis (like every 1-5 mins)? -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Picture Updater?
At 07:23 AM 6/11/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 06:30, Cody Harris wrote: Does anyone know of a program that can refresh a pictures from webcam on a regular basis (like every 1-5 mins)? -Cody Harris You should have a program called webcam that lives in /usr/bin. man webcam - gives you the entire list of options for creating the .webcamrc file so that it takes those snaps. Can webcam run from terminal? -- Wed Jun 11 07:20:00 EST 2003 07:20:00 up 3 days, 17:11, 5 users, load average: 0.08, 0.04, 0.03 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Pascal is a language for children wanting to be naughty. -- Dr. Kasi Ananthanarayanan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Picture Updater?
Here's the error i get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Owner]# webcam reading config file: /root/.webcamrc /root/.webcamrc:1: syntax error /root/.webcamrc:2: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:3: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:4: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:5: syntax error /root/.webcamrc:6: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:7: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:8: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:9: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:10: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:11: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:12: syntax error /root/.webcamrc:13: syntax error /root/.webcamrc:14: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:15: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:16: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:17: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:18: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:19: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:20: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:21: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:22: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:23: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:24: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:25: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:26: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:27: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:28: error: no section /root/.webcamrc:29: error: no section ioctl: VIDIOCGFBUF(base=(nil),size=0x0,depth=0,bpl=0): Invalid argument ftp: connect failed, sleeping 5 sec ftp: connect failed, sleeping 10 sec ftp: connect failed, sleeping 20 sec [EMAIL PROTECTED] Owner]# What's the cause? At 06:27 PM 6/10/2003 -0300, you wrote: At 07:23 AM 6/11/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 06:30, Cody Harris wrote: Does anyone know of a program that can refresh a pictures from webcam on a regular basis (like every 1-5 mins)? -Cody Harris You should have a program called webcam that lives in /usr/bin. man webcam - gives you the entire list of options for creating the .webcamrc file so that it takes those snaps. Can webcam run from terminal? -- Wed Jun 11 07:20:00 EST 2003 07:20:00 up 3 days, 17:11, 5 users, load average: 0.08, 0.04, 0.03 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Pascal is a language for children wanting to be naughty. -- Dr. Kasi Ananthanarayanan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Picture Updater?
I found my way around the example, but now i get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# webcam reading config file: /root/.webcamrc ioctl: VIDIOCGFBUF(base=(nil),size=0x0,depth=0,bpl=0): Invalid argument ftp: connect failed, sleeping 5 sec ftp: connect failed, sleeping 10 sec ftp: connect failed, sleeping 20 sec ftp: connect failed, sleeping 40 sec ftp: connect failed, sleeping 80 sec Using the stuff from the conf file for FTP, i can log in. Here is my conf file (minus password) [ftp] host = localhost user = webcam pass = - dir = . file = webcam.jpg tmp = uploading.jpg passive = 0 debug = 0 auto = 0 local= 0 [grab] device = /dev/video0 text = webcam %Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S infofile = filename width = 176 height = 144 delay = 60 input = Camera norm = pal rotate = 0 top = 0 left = 0 bottom = -1 right = -1 quality = 75 trigger = 0 once = 0 At 08:58 AM 6/11/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 08:09, Cody Harris wrote: Here's the error i get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Owner]# webcam reading config file: /root/.webcamrc /root/.webcamrc:1: syntax error /root/.webcamrc:2: error: no section You need a .webcamrc - I just sent an example. Edit it and modify it to suit your camera and system. -- Wed Jun 11 08:55:01 EST 2003 08:55:01 up 3 days, 18:46, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.15, 0.20 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * (CBG attends the Movementarians mass marriage ceremony) CBG:(to new bride) So, do you enjoy comic books? The Joy Of Sect (Episode 5F23) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Picture Updater?
At 09:53 AM 6/11/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 09:02, Cody Harris wrote: I found my way around the example, but now i get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# webcam reading config file: /root/.webcamrc ioctl: VIDIOCGFBUF(base=(nil),size=0x0,depth=0,bpl=0): Invalid argument ftp: connect failed, sleeping 5 sec ftp: connect failed, sleeping 10 sec ftp: connect failed, sleeping 20 sec ftp: connect failed, sleeping 40 sec ftp: connect failed, sleeping 80 sec Using the stuff from the conf file for FTP, i can log in. Here is my conf file (minus password) [ftp] host = localhost user = webcam pass = - dir = . file = webcam.jpg tmp = uploading.jpg passive = 0 debug = 0 auto = 0 local= 0 If it's local, just put a 1 in where it says local Yes yes, i got it all worked out. -- Wed Jun 11 09:50:01 EST 2003 09:50:01 up 3 days, 19:41, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Adding features does not necessarily increase functionality -- it just makes the manuals thicker. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[3]: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
At 02:49 PM 6/8/2003 -0700, you wrote: Hello Cody, Sunday, June 8, 2003, 1:10:05 PM, you wrote: CH It took 4 hours to install MDK 8.1, and 60 mins for Windoze. Perhaps 9.1 is faster. Also, I included the time to install apps as well, not just the OS (even though linux installed faster than Win2000). I put around 30 apps on each, and this is where the time difference really shows up. I can't tell you how tired I got from rebooting Win2000 for the 30th time. :-) Linux is clearly better in installing new apps. I don't restart after every install. Most of the time it runs anyways without a problem and restarting is unneeded. But if i do have to restart, i only restart AFTER i'm done. CH My friends all have Windoze. Likewise, but there is significant interest in other OS's. CH They send me windoze programs and we play Windoze games and run CH Windoze stuff. I run a LOT of Win apps, mostly 'serious' software. I rarely play games. If your main interest is in playing games, especially the very latest game craze, Win is probably better. Once and awhile it's good stress reliver if you play GTA3. -- Thank you, rikona mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
At 05:50 PM 6/8/2003 -0600, you wrote: quoting Cody Harris's missive of Sunday 08 June 2003 02:10 pm: snip It took 4 hours to install MDK 8.1, and 60 mins for Windoze. That must have included the time required to figure out what the hell all of those packages were in the individual package selection type install, then deciding which ones you wanted. Granted it is a *really long* list but It only took me like 10 mins at the MOST. If that. This box is only a Pentium 3 500 MHz and it did _not_ take that long to do a *network* install of 9.1 from a network.img floppy. (This entails downloading and installing from a mirror. No CDs involved) From scratch! On a totally new unformatted hard drive. :-) That took just over an hour over my cable modem. Minimal install, just internet and multi-media workstation, and then added packages after (Open Office, games, xscreensavers, Texstars KDE packages, a few others); maybe another 30 to 40 minutes. What were you doing for the other (roughly) 3 hours? Installing Windows in your sleep? g Installing Linux. The biggest % was installing the packages. It took A LONG time. 200 MHz 32 MB. I used the CDs. My friends all have Windoze. They send me windoze programs and we play Windoze games and run Windoze stuff. -Cody Harris It almost sounds as though Windows may be right for you, and that's OK Cody. But please don't dismiss GNU/Linux in general; and Mandrake in particular, just because it's different and doesn't do things the Windows Way©. Two major points in relating a Mandrake (or almost any other GNU/Linux, but especially Mandrake) install to a Windows install: 1.) In Mandrake if the hardware in the box or attached to it is supported at all it installs, and is ready for use, when you first boot to user space. Printers and scanners or ZIP drives and flash readers will need some configuration probably, but not much else. Usually. Unless the user screwed something up at the summary screen. We all know who we are, don't we? :-) In Windows you have to be certain you have all of the drivers for everything in the box or attached to it before you start or you're hooped. I've had to chase down drivers for network cards, modems, printers, scanners, video, ad nauseum, for every Windows install I've ever been forced to help anyone with. This usually happens due to the standard My machine came with Windows preinstalled computer that the person bought needing Reinstall Windows every 90 days (at least) whether you think it's needed or not maintenance. It usually is. Then the operating system will whine about the drivers or refuse to load them. Cause they ain't signed. Which is a joke since the signatures are wide open and any cracker can fake them. Don't forget genuflections to the Gods of Redmond and Saints Steve B. and Craig M. Or is the requirement a virgin sacrifice this year? I can never recall. How many times will you have to reboot to register the drivers and (maybe) make things work? System restore? HAH! 2.) After installing Mandrake you still own the box. You have the option to connect to a network or the internet or not, decide whether to send any information to the distributor of the operating system. You _have control_ of everything that goes in or out of what you paid for. Can reboot as many times as your equipment will without running into the limited functionality warnings. You don't have to ask the owner's permission to listen to music, read a document, surf the 'net, watch a video. After installing Windows. Can you say Frisbee®? ;-) Regards; Charlie -- Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake 9.1 Bamboo (cooked) 16:23:54 up 26 days, 8:27, 3 users, load average: 0.20, 0.13, 0.11 Krogt, n. (chemical symbol: Kr): The metallic silver coating found on fast-food game cards. -- Rich Hall, Sniglets Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
At 12:10 PM 6/9/2003 -0600, you wrote: quoting Anne Wilson's missive of Monday 09 June 2003 04:41 am: whack Installing Linux. The biggest % was installing the packages. It took A LONG time. 200 MHz 32 MB. I used the CDs. Cody; If I recall correctly that machine is your server? How much more than 'just server' packages did you install? Office packages, graphics packages, audio packages, firewall, etc.? How many different desktops? KDE, GNOME, what else? Did any of that extra software get installed from your (1) Windows install disk? Do you think the sheer _size_ of the install on that limited system may have had some effect on how long it took? Installing three or four times the number of applications may actually TAKE three or four times as long? On the same machine? I installed most things, because it was just a server then. That really is odd. I installed 9.0 on a really ancient AMD board (around 5 years old) in around 45 minutes. It has a 400 processor and 128 MB ram - nothing specially good and a lot that's not good. It's very slow doing some things, but it works. Can't imagine what took so long. Anne Hey! Easy with that 'ancient board' crack Anne. This system was built in early 1999. Or late 1998, I can never recall. But I resemble that ancient remark. ;-) Yeah, that's a slow processor Cody is using alright. But it ain't the problem. Check out the difference in RAM between what you installed on and what Cody had trouble with. Then remember the minimum specs for Mandrake 8.1. If I remember correctly it was 64 MB minimum recommended, but I'm not going to dig the box out of the closet to check. May actually have been double that. g As a check; I never had much luck with 8.1. I didn't run it for very long before I cookered this box. Hangs, X crashes, *very* slow operation. I had 512 MB of memory when I installed it then I added another 512. I had to cut it back to 768 total because of a failing memory slot but still...it just didn't like my system. Or me. ;-) With only 32 MB of physical memory I'm surprised it installed at all. 9.0 or 9.1 wouldn't, not if one planned to use the graphical installer. You *might* get disk 1 to install but 2 and 3 wouldn't be available; no memory to hold the package lists and the GUI. Cody; If you want to learn, and to be able to run any GNU/Linux distribution, might I suggest that you start with basics? System requirements are published for a reason, errata pages are published for a reason. notMail lists such as this exist so that smart @$$ people such as myself can hang around to offer unhelpful help to try advising you on how to make things work./not There are a number of (lots actually, and you may have pissed one or more of them off yesterday) truly helpful and intelligent people that answer questions on these lists. As volunteers. Because they believe in the ideals exemplified by the availability of distributions such as Mandrake. Added factor: they really like to help. It requires a minimum commitment on your part. You need to actually _read_ and give thought to the information that's made available though, or that someone offers links to for you. I don't think anyone actually expects you or anybody else to get it on the first go; but I do think you're expected to try, and ask more questions when you need to. Don't just start the Windows is better as a subconscious defence against feeling inadequate. That's old and tired, we've all seen far too much of it. If Windows is really your thang have fun. Just don't expect very many people that read this, or any other like list, to agree with you. From the post I originally quoted from: It took 4 hours to install MDK 8.1, and 60 mins for Windoze. On that same machine? A working Windows install? With all of the extras you installed from the Mandrake disks? In 60 minutes on that hardware? Wellno. Very unlikely. Try again. Comparisons are only as useful as the basic premise allows them to be. This one may not reflect reality. Final thoughts on this subject then I'm outta here; how much would all of the software/server packages you installed have cost you from Microsoft? How much did it cost you from Mandrake? What have you paid for the training you've been offered here? Regards; Charlie -- Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake 9.1 Bamboo (cooked) 10:44:05 up 27 days, 2:48, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.04, 0.01 Have a nice day! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
[newbie] FTP Access
Could someone give me off list assistance with ProFTPD? I know this is the wrong place but... -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re: [newbie] FTP Access
I need a second annoymous FTP account called r-and-e. I need it to be in folder /mnt/network/r-and-e. The conf file and documentation kinda confuses me. Oh, this folder can't be witeable either. At 05:03 PM 6/9/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 04:44:25PM -0300, Cody Harris wrote: Could someone give me off list assistance with ProFTPD? I know this is the wrong place but... -Cody Harris I've used it before, whatcha need? Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re[2]: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
At 03:04 PM 6/9/2003 -0700, you wrote: Hello N., Monday, June 9, 2003, 1:51:38 PM, you wrote: NBD Cody, if you're going to quote _all_ of several messages and NBD include a one sentence reply, please stop the HTML It would seem as though he does not know how to do this, and what non-M$ email should look like. He does seem to have a bit of trouble with things. Since I don't use OE or other M$ software (even though I use Win), perhaps someone could tell him how to do it with his MS tools. I can set it to plain. Why do people not use HTML stuff anyways? What would websites look like without HTML? Crap. -- Thank you, rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HIJACKED: FTP Access
Ok, i'll try plain text. At 08:06 AM 6/10/2003 +1000, you wrote: I have to concur with several others about the consistency of getting HTML/RTF mail from you, Cody. If you can't either abide by the rules of the mailing list, or give consideration to others as per numerous request, you should seriously consider where exactly you stand as an honourable member of the internet community. You might be cool with all your Gamerz Lamerz friends, but as you delve deeper beyond that superficial world into the world most of us here inhabit, you're going to have to utilise karma and good manners in order to survive long - survive with some honour. From this point forward I have to kill any messages from you as has several other people on the list. I don't have time to try to make sense out of your replies or questions as I deal in a text based world. It's sad that you have been asked numerous times and can't seem to acknowledge that you're actually inconveniencing people by using HTML/RTF email; it is more than rude to continue on once you've been asked. I'm sure when someone does something to you that you don't like, and you ask them to stop, and they continue to do so, that it end up pissing you off royally - well, have some empathy mate. Alot of people here have been more than forgiving, so you should return the consideration and respect. -- Tue Jun 10 07:55:01 EST 2003 07:55:01 up 2 days, 17:46, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.08, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * A wife started serving chopped meat, Monday hamburger, Tuesday meat loaf, Wednesday tartar steak, and Thursday meatballs. On Friday morning her husband snarled, How now, ground cow? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HIJACKED: FTP Access
That's because it is. At 05:17 PM 6/9/2003 -0600, you wrote: At 07:12 PM 6/9/2003 -0300, you wrote: Ok, i'll try plain text. Joy! Don't make it sound so painful though... sheesh. - FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Good Decisions Your boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS!| | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
At 03:21 PM 6/8/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 11:13, Aron Smith wrote: On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 15:53, JoeHill wrote: On 08 Jun 2003 08:15:25 +1000 Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: 1.) Cost 2.) Support 3.) Security 4.) Control 5.) Stability 6.) Features 7.) Multifunctionality without overhead cost 8.) Performance 9.) Installation time 10.) Customisation 11.) Comes with 3 GB of pr0n. You must be running the D.O.M (Dirty Old Man ) Edition where can I get it? Sir Robin and I are going to market this new distro. From the beginning of the installation all through it's casual usage, it's aimed at being totally pr0n centred - even the themes are pr0n based. Not only does it come with all the normal bells and whistles, but we've renamed the beloved Tux to _ux, renamed Sylpheed to Syphillis, and more. Also comes with 10 complimentary CD's of international pr0n - each main CD focusing on a particular cultures sexual tastes. Instead of buttons, you have tits'n'arse to click on. Mouse pointers are actually penises. Normal system beeps and bells have been replaced with groans, moans and screams. When KDE starts up, you hear Oh God, it's coming! It's coming! It's - AAHHH - it's done! I'm not hearing this. -- Sun Jun 8 15:15:00 EST 2003 15:15:00 up 1 day, 1:06, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.08 - | __ __ |kuhn media australia | | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * A Los Angeles judge ruled that a citizen may snore with immunity in his own home, even though he may be in possession of unusual and exceptional ability in that particular field. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
At 03:15 PM 6/8/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 10:56, Cody Harris wrote: I think that's where someone should step in and make it usable to the average non-computer literate person. It took my awhile to learn how to do things. I think that could be solved with a little more automation and not painstakingly doing everything. urpmi(sp?) is great, but what about someone that doesn't know about it? Windows update if good because it says: Here's a list of crap that we think will make your computer better. Even if it doesn't help. Of course, i'm saying this from experiance, so i'm most likly wrong. How many of you that have had wives that didn't know how to use the thing? Look, 90% of the world DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO INSTALL WINDOWS - they buy a computer with Windows already installed. IF they had to install it themselves, it's a tough go - especially on a machine that requires all kinda special drivers and proprietary BS to get it to work properly. ON THAT SAME NOTE, when I sell a linux computer to a customer, it's already installed and configured, the ONLY thing they have to do is to put in their ISP's phone number and other settings for email, and well, that's about that. This is an apples and oranges thing now. Most of the world DOES NOT install their OS. Someone does it for them And in having someone do it for them, things are going to get done FOR them that they cannot or will not do. The ONLY OS that's brainlessly installed is MacOS. Windows is NOT easy to install and configure. OS/2 is NOT easy to install and configure. BeOS was NOT easy to install and configure. Any version of Windows is not/has not/will not be easy to install and configure. Linux is no different. I can install windoze in my sleep. But i spend hours with Linux. Maybe that's just me. Wait, sorry, I used to so Solaris setups on Sparcs, and that was BRAINLESS as well - I only had to know how to configure the networking - which I had to say yes to DHCP and then that was it. If you had your first computer experiences with someone delivering a system to you with everything already setup and configured, what would your perceptions be? I have customers that are literal dummies, but yet, they're running linux and they don't really know or care less either which way. They can surf, do email, chat, play tunes and DVD's - they don't care. They don't care that it's not Windows. Nothing breaks - so they don't have to worry about it anyways. They never have questions for me or call with silly problems because they can't have those same problems on the OS they're running. Occasionally I explain how to download and install something (just double click on the program and it installs!) - and that's about it. No dramas. I must be hiding in hole because programs rarely install (easily) for me. If you were brought up only using a Mac, every other OS is strange and has problems. If you were brought up only using linux, every other OS is strange4 and has problems. If you were brought up only using Windows, every other OS is strange and has problems. It's a matter of what you're familiar with and how you're basing your perceptions, mate. I'm tring my best. Like i've said in other threads, i wish i could switch to Linux, but i can't. When i get another computer, i'll use it. For now my only contact to the Linux World is this list and my other computer though SSH. -- Sun Jun 8 15:05:01 EST 2003 15:05:01 up 1 day, 56 min, 3 users, load average: 0.20, 0.23, 0.13 - | __ __ |kuhn media australia | | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The instruments of science do not in themselves discover truth. And there are searchings that are not concluded by the coincidence of a pointer and a mark. -- Fred Saberhagen, The Berserker Wars Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
At 04:13 PM 6/8/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 15:57, Michael Viron wrote: Just a thought, but keep in mind how much easier things have become. I'm not sure how many old-timers are on the list, but it used to be that in order to do just about anything, you had to compile it yourself. Slackware's FIRST release. Downloaded from the Walnut-Creek site (ftp.cdrom.com). Took a week to get the bloody thing up and running, and STILL without networking via 8mb ISA Lantastic card. Barely even had anything other than a shell. The hot stuff was to telnet via com port to the linux box via serial port FROM the BBS server and make use of bash scripting for menus and navigation. Ohot stuff that! OpenWindows was the XWindows default. (Still works nicely on MDK 9.1, too...hehehehhehe). When FvWM hit, THAT was hot stuff. Took ages to figure out how to add programs to the menus. OpenLook was easier because the text files for the menus sat in /usr/openwin/include - so it was really nicer to have running even though FvWM looked nicer. Sitting through an OS/2 installation was preferable to doing the Slackware installation, and took less time (believe THAT!). RH's first installation in 1994 wasn't much better than Slackware's - and I thought RH would die quickly and Slackware would rule. WRONG. Wow, that brings back memories...or is it mammories? What's slackware? -- Sun Jun 8 16:00:01 EST 2003 16:00:01 up 1 day, 1:51, 3 users, load average: 0.10, 0.15, 0.11 - | __ __ |kuhn media australia | | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * A filter set contains all imaginable wavelengths and widths- except the one combination you need -- Ralf's Laws of Observational Astronomy n6 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re: [newbie] test n0 2
At 10:10 PM 6/8/2003 +1000, you wrote: On Sun, 2003-06-08 at 21:31, _nasturtium wrote: On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 08:54 pm, Johan Scheepers wrote: Anybody receive this please ??? Johan On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 09:04 pm, Johan Scheepers wrote: Testing no 2 Mail comes back unable to deliver?? Johan Sorry, mail undeliverable, return to sender. :-) Oy! That's not the error that I just saw. I saw the error: MAIL UNDELETABLE. FORCE VENT SHUNT TO /DEV/NULL. IRREVOCABLE CLIENT LICENSE. DANGER. MAIL SERVER VENTING UNKNOWN SUBSTANCES. ALL EMAIL CLIENTS WILL RETRACT THEIR TENTACLES. SQUID LIPS PREVAIL. What the hell are you on/talking about? ...er, at least that's what I thought it said after my prescription kicked into gear... -- Sun Jun 8 22:05:00 EST 2003 22:05:00 up 1 day, 7:56, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.08, 0.02 - | __ __ |kuhn media australia | | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn | | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The meek don't want it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re: [newbie] HIJACKED: Linux viruses
Why is there an attachment? At 03:10 PM 6/8/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 20:02:13 +0100 Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is mention of an ELF file type. What is that? executable linux file? 1/3rd right Ann There are three main types for ELF files. -An executable file contains code and data suitable for execution. It specifies the memory layout of the process. -A relocatable file contains code and data suitable for linking with other relocatable and shared object files. -A shared object file (a.k.a. shared library) contains code and data suitable for the link editor ld at link time and the dynamic linker at run time. The dynamic linker may be called ld.so.1, libc.so.1 or ld-linux.so.1, depending on the implementation. Charles -- The weight in a backpack can never remain uniformly distributed -- Murphy's Laws of Camping n°18 - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.1mdk - -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re[2]: [newbie] Reasons for Linux
At 12:29 PM 6/8/2003 -0700, you wrote: Hello Cody, Sunday, June 8, 2003, 4:45:30 AM, you wrote: CH I can install windoze in my sleep. But i spend hours with Linux. CH Maybe that's just me. There is a learning curve, as with anything new. The first time I installed Mandrake, I was at a loss, even though the installation went without a hitch. It was up and running in no time - a flawless install in 9.0. Trying to get a network printer (on Win2000) to work was not so easy, but then again it was equally difficult with Windows (allowing for the difference in learning curve, of course). As a complete newbie, I messed up a few things, just as Windows newbies do too. I stuck with it, though, and got it to run. I did a complete reinstall of MD 9.1, again flawless, and it was VERY much easier to install all the stuff after going through it once. Again, the learning curve. When I installed MD 9.1, I also reinstalled Win2000 on a new box. The MD install went faster, and was easier than the Win2000 install, IF I also include the many apps installed on both. I also assume you REALLY know how to reboot in your sleep. :- It took 4 hours to install MDK 8.1, and 60 mins for Windoze. CH I must be hiding in hole because programs rarely install (easily) CH for me. Hmmm... my experience is a bit different. Most everything installs OK. The occasional rpm that does not is usually explained well on this list, and usually fixed with the help of these generous people. CH I'm tring my best. Like i've said in other threads, i wish i could CH switch to Linux, but i can't. When i get another computer, i'll CH use it. For now my only contact to the Linux World is this list CH and my other computer though SSH. Did you ask about the problems here? If you can indeed install Windows in your sleep, you should not be in the mass of illiterate users who barely know how to turn on their computer, and you should do well if you stick with it during the learning process. I am **VERY** glad I stuck with it. It is a delight to know I'm no longer captive to M$ - that alone is worth every minute I invested. My friends all have Windoze. They send me windoze programs and we play Windoze games and run Windoze stuff. -- Thank you, rikona mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
Re: [newbie] HIJACKED: Linux viruses
At 03:46 PM 6/8/2003 -0400, you wrote: On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 16:15:21 -0300 Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is there an attachment? gpg signature. Turn off your gpg sig first. Please Turn-off html Charles -- The sooner our happiness together begins, the longer it will last. -- Miramanee, The Paradise Syndrome, stardate 4842.6 - Mandrake Linux 9.2 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.1mdk - -Cody Harris ++ | Linux Rox My Sox! | | Check out HCHS! | | http://vectec.net | ++--+ | Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. | | Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. | ++--+ | Registered Linux user #315598 | | Registered Linux Computer #200951 | | Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( | ++
