[newbie] How to Capture Text Mode Output?
I don't know if my subject line made any sense, but what I'm trying to do is this: I recently switched from booting in runlevel 5 to runlevel 3. I'm using Xtart to give me a choice of window managers. Since I started doing that, I am noticing several errors and warnings fly by in text mode before the screen switches into graphics mode and launches my window manager of choice. When I log out of my window manager session, some of the info (plus additional output generated during my session) is visible on the screen, but much of it has already scrolled off the top. I want to know how I can capture all that info so that I can look at it after my session is over. I tried using the pause key to pause before the screen switches to graphics mode, but no dice. So, is there a way that I can either page up and see the text mode output that has already scrolled up or redirect the output to a file or something like that? Thanks. -- David B. Carter Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How to Capture Text Mode Output?
dmesg gave me the output from the bootup sequence but nothing beyond that. I dug through the files in /var/log/ and found that the stuff that flashed quickly between the time I entered my selection in Xtart and the time the window manager appeared was in /var/log/kdm.log and it appears to be canned text that doesn't change because the date on the file is Oct 1 which, if I'm not mistaken coincides with the time I started messing around with changing display managers and ultimately booting to runlevel 3. As for the errors that appear to be generated while the window manager is running and are there waiting for me when I go back to text mode, I can't find them in any of the files. For example, when I exit Pekwm, there are some PyPanel errors that contain the path to my Python install. When I do a grep -r python /var/log/ The only hits I get back are from rpmdrake logs from the day I first installed the Python devel package. Anyway, I guess it's not that big of a deal if the majority of that stuff was canned text from kdm.log (although I'm curious as to what triggers that to be displayed and what it all means). Hoyt Bailey said: On Wednesday 06 October 2004 07:01, David B. Carter wrote: I don't know if my subject line made any sense, but what I'm trying to do is this: I recently switched from booting in runlevel 5 to runlevel 3. I'm using Xtart to give me a choice of window managers. Since I started doing that, I am noticing several errors and warnings fly by in text mode before the screen switches into graphics mode and launches my window manager of choice. When I log out of my window manager session, some of the info (plus additional output generated during my session) is visible on the screen, but much of it has already scrolled off the top. I want to know how I can capture all that info so that I can look at it after my session is over. I tried using the pause key to pause before the screen switches to graphics mode, but no dice. So, is there a way that I can either page up and see the text mode output that has already scrolled up or redirect the output to a file or something like that? Thanks. Try 'dmesg'. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help with Python Problem (MDK 10.0)
JoeHill said: BTW, could you do a 'rpm -qa | grep imlib2' on your machine? I'm curious to see what your version is. My 9.2 box is now too out-of-date to run PyPanel 2.0, my version of imlib is too old. libimlib2_1-filters-1.0.6-4.1.100mdk libimlib2_1-loaders-1.0.6-4.1.100mdk libimlib2_1-devel-1.0.6-4.1.100mdk libimlib2_1-1.0.6-4.1.100mdk BTW, installing libpython-devel fixed my problem. I was able to run the PyPanel setup script. Then I put pypanel in my Pwkwm start file, but, when I run Pekwm, I don't see anything that would lead me to believe it is actually running. When I type pypanel in a terminal window while in KDE, the screen flickers, and then I get the following: segmentation fault I tried to go to the PyPanel site to look for troubleshooting info, but I didn't find any. I googled (pypanel segmentation fault) but got nothing useful. Anyone have any ideas? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help with Python Problem (MDK 10.0)
No pypanel.py anywhere. Just pypanel (with no extension) in /usr/bin. Whether I just type 'pypanel' or 'python /usr/bin/pypanel' all I get is segmentation fault BTW, in all the reading I've done, I keep seeing commands that have have after them. What does that do/mean? H.J.Bathoorn said: On Tuesday 05 October 2004 11:44, David B. Carter wrote: segmentation fault I tried to go to the PyPanel site to look for troubleshooting info, but I didn't find any. I googled (pypanel segmentation fault) but got nothing useful. Anyone have any ideas? try running it in the python shell itself. I don't have PyPanel myself but you'll have pypanel.py or PyPanel.py or something of the sort on your system somewhere. Do updatedb as root/su and when finished (as user) locate anel.py and you should get the path in your output. Then run it (with the full path) python /path/to/pypanel.py and you'll get very specific output as to where it goes wrong. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help with Python Problem (MDK 10.0)
Just for the heck of it (although I have no idea what it means), I tried running pypanel with a after it. I did it several times, and this was what the output to the terminal window looked like: [ddecjc]$ pypanel [1] 4777 [ddecjc]$ pypanel [2] 4792 [1] Segmentation fault pypanel [ddecjc]$ pypanel [3] 4807 [2] Segmentation fault pypanel [ddecjc]$ pypanel [4] 4822 [3] Segmentation fault pypanel [ddecjc]$ pypanel [5] 4837 [4] Segmentation fault pypanel [ddecjc]$ Does this mean anything to anyone? David B. Carter said: No pypanel.py anywhere. Just pypanel (with no extension) in /usr/bin. Whether I just type 'pypanel' or 'python /usr/bin/pypanel' all I get is segmentation fault BTW, in all the reading I've done, I keep seeing commands that have have after them. What does that do/mean? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help with Python Problem (MDK 10.0)
Thanks for giving it a shot. At least I know I'm not the only one that it doesn't work for. Anyone else have any helpful insight? Stephen Kühn said: MEANWHILE... [23:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ pypanel /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/Xlib/display.py:30: DeprecationWarning: Non-ASCII character '\xf6' in file /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/Xlib/protocol/display.py on line 749, but no encoding declared; see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details import protocol.display Segmentation fault after getting curious about this issue, I tried to get it all going myself - with the same seg fault results - methinks something is amiss, y'all reckon? Can't seem to find anything else out about it and I CERTAINLY AIN'T going to break python on this installation as that's what caused me to migrate from a nice stable 9.1 installation to 10.0 OE...(but I gave it a shot) -- stephen kuhn --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses --- This land is my land, and only my land, I've got a shotgun, and you ain't got one, If you don't get off, I'll blow your head off, This land is private property. -- Apologies to Woody Guthrie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help with Python Problem (MDK 10.0)
Must be a problem with PyPanel 2.0 because I removed it and installed 1.3 and it works! One thing that is different between the two is that 2.0 requires imlib2 1.1.1 or later (according to the docs). When I do a rpm -qa | grep imlib2 I get libimlib2_1-filters-1.0.6-4.1.100mdk libimlib2_1-loaders-1.0.6-4.1.100mdk libimlib2_1-devel-1.0.6-4.1.100mdk libimlib2_1-1.0.6-4.1.100mdk which looks to me like it's saying I have version 1.0.6. I don't know if that's right or if that's even the problem, but it's the only thing that jumped out at me. Anyway, although I'd like to be running 2.0, I can't find an RPM anywhere of a more recent version of imlib2, and I don't feel like compiling it from source, so I'll stick with 1.3 for now. Thanks for your help, everyone. David B. Carter said: Thanks for giving it a shot. At least I know I'm not the only one that it doesn't work for. Anyone else have any helpful insight? Stephen Kühn said: MEANWHILE... [23:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ pypanel /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/Xlib/display.py:30: DeprecationWarning: Non-ASCII character '\xf6' in file /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/Xlib/protocol/display.py on line 749, but no encoding declared; see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details import protocol.display Segmentation fault after getting curious about this issue, I tried to get it all going myself - with the same seg fault results - methinks something is amiss, y'all reckon? Can't seem to find anything else out about it and I CERTAINLY AIN'T going to break python on this installation as that's what caused me to migrate from a nice stable 9.1 installation to 10.0 OE...(but I gave it a shot) -- stephen kuhn --- GNU/Linux/OpenSource Solutions and Alternatives 100% Microsoft Free and no viruses --- This land is my land, and only my land, I've got a shotgun, and you ain't got one, If you don't get off, I'll blow your head off, This land is private property. -- Apologies to Woody Guthrie Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Help with Python Problem (MDK 10.0)
I'm trying to get setup to try Pekwm. Joe Hill has given me some great info on where to download stuff from, and I've got it all ready to try. My problem is I've never done anything with Python before, and, when I try to run the install for Pekwm as indicated in the README file, I get the following error: running install error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.3/config/Makefile (No such file or directory) Sure enough, when I go look, there is no config directory under the /usr/lib/python2.3/ directory. Now I'm stuck. I don't know what to do next. I ran rpmdrake and searched for python packages. There are tons of them, but I don't even know what I'm looking for. Any ideas? Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help with Python Problem (MDK 10.0)
Yep. It was done after su in a terminal window... Stephen Kühn said: And I assume you're doing this as the root user, eh? Cuz if you ain't, yer gonna get errors left right and centre... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Help with Python Problem (MDK 10.0)
JoeHill said: I'm assuming you mean PyPanel and not Pekwm... You're right. My newbie-ness is painfully obvious... Methinks you have Python installed, but not the necessary libs. This should take care of everything. urpmi libpython-devel Thanks. I'll give it a shot... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Where are the archives?
Hi everyone! I was a member of the list earlier this year, but left for a while. I'm back now, and I have a problem. Back when I was subscribed before, I posted a question about getting sound configured on my old Dell GX1 machine running Mandrake 10 (I think--it may have been 9.2). I got a lot of help, and I ended up solving the problem. My problem is that I didn't keep those emails, and I have since had to rebuild that box, and I'm now facing the same problem. I tried to go to the archives page on the web, but it doesn't have any archive newer than December 2003. Does anyone know where I could find list archives from earlier this year? Wish I could remember the month, but I can't. The subject line was probably something like Newbie needs help with sound on Mandrake 10. Thanks, Dave Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?
Thanks, Joe. I appreciate the help. To the other not-so-kind poster: perhaps you should read the RTFQ(uestion) before spewing acronyms. It clearly said in my post, that I HAVE visited those URL's and they don't contain any archives from this year! --- frengoGorgia didn't bother to visit the archives before spewing the following filth which was more worthless than the question on which he was commenting: Hey newbie , what about reading the basics, why you don't RTFM Read The F**k Manual http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/ http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie/ JoeHill said: Hey jerkoff, you might want to actually visit those URL's and notice they are *out of date*. http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/newbie/2004-09/ Looks like they updated the Expert list, but Newbie is still showing nothing for September. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Where are the archives?
You're right. It's forgotten. Thanks to all those who made an effort to help. I was indeed able to find what I needed and shouldn't have to trouble you any more on that particular issue. I did learn one thing from all this. Make sure the subject line says it all because some folks may just click reply without even reading the body of the message! H.J.Bathoorn said: That was just a bad case of foot in mouth disease, forget it:) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake - What Have I Done?
Charlie said: On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 04:35 am, many eyes viewed David B. Carter's words:- I was fooling around the other day, and I reinstalled Windows 2000 Pro and Mandrake 9.2 in a dual-boot setup. I have a secondary 6GB hard drive that I wanted to see if I could partition and format as a single FAT32 partition that could be read/written by both OS's. It worked! In MDK 9.2, it is mounted as /winshare. Now, I'm playing again. I opened DiskDrake, and (I thought) deleted the /winshare partition, reformatted using ext3 and mounted it as /var/servers for putting my FTP and WWW stuff. Now, when I restart, I have a /var/servers AND a /winshare. How come I still have /winshare? I thought I got rid of it! Edit it out of your /etc/fstab file It's not in /etc/fstab. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake - What Have I Done?
Alaa The Great said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 23:35:14 -0500 (EST) David B. Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was fooling around the other day, and I reinstalled Windows 2000 Pro and Mandrake 9.2 in a dual-boot setup. I have a secondary 6GB hard drive that I wanted to see if I could partition and format as a single FAT32 partition that could be read/written by both OS's. It worked! In MDK 9.2, it is mounted as /winshare. Now, I'm playing again. I opened DiskDrake, and (I thought) deleted the/winshare partition, reformatted using ext3 and mounted it as /var/servers for putting my FTP and WWW stuff. Now, when I restart, I have a/var/servers AND a /winshare. How come I still have /winshare? I thought I got rid of it! what do you mean you have /winshare?? does it show up in diskdrake?? or do you just mean the directory /windshare exists?? its normal for the directory to remain even after you remove the partition, the directory where you mount partitions is stored at the parent partition (on the root partition in this case). No, it doesn't show up in DiskDrake. The directory is still there, and I can create files in it. So, do I just need to rmdir the directory? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] DiskDrake - What Have I Done?
Bryan Phinney said: David, the act of creating a mount point and mounting a partition involves two separate things. First, you create an actual mount point directory off of root. That directory is there regardless of whether the partition is mounted or not. Second, you create an fstab entry that tells the mount -a command what partition to mount and what mount point to use. Once you issue the mount command, the empty mount point directory is no longer empty and you will see the contents of the partition. You have now removed the winshare partition and it is no longer being mounted but the mount point directory still exists. You simply need to go out as root and issue the rm -r /winshare command and it will remove the empty directory. Make sure that it is empty first, ls /winshare Thanks. I was very confused, but that makes sense. I'll go ahead and remove the directory. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] DiskDrake - What Have I Done?
I was fooling around the other day, and I reinstalled Windows 2000 Pro and Mandrake 9.2 in a dual-boot setup. I have a secondary 6GB hard drive that I wanted to see if I could partition and format as a single FAT32 partition that could be read/written by both OS's. It worked! In MDK 9.2, it is mounted as /winshare. Now, I'm playing again. I opened DiskDrake, and (I thought) deleted the /winshare partition, reformatted using ext3 and mounted it as /var/servers for putting my FTP and WWW stuff. Now, when I restart, I have a /var/servers AND a /winshare. How come I still have /winshare? I thought I got rid of it! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Linux User - Need Help with Sound in New 9.2 Install
David B. Carter said: I'm getting really frustrated with this sound problem! This morning I dug up an old SoundBlaser AWE32 card I had packed away, and I installed it in the machine I've been having trouble with. I disabled the onboard sound in the BIOS, I removed all references to sound drivers from /etc/modules.conf, and I restarted the machine. After this fresh start, I decided to see if I had any better luck with this sound card. Well, alsaconf wouldn't detect the card, so I moved on the sndconfig. It found the card and played that test audio file successfully, but, when I tried to play a WAV file in XMMS using the OSS plugin, I got no sound! ARGHHH! Well, I'm about to give up on this! I have gone back to the onboard soound. I cannot get anything but CD audio with ALSA no matter what I try. With OSS using sndconfig, I can get CD audio plus audio from some of the games. I still can't play a WAV file in XMMS. But I guess that's the best I can hope for right now. If anyone has any ideas, I'd still love to hear them, but I don't think I'm going to actively pursue this issue anymore (for now). Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Linux User - Need Help with Sound in New 9.2 Install
Given that your soundchip was not detected on installation, or that alsaconf fails to detect it, then I suspect you may may a problem with IRQ conflicts. If you type 'dmesg' in a terminal you will see all the boot messages. If you scroll up you may see some clues. No IRQ conflicts. I found out that my alsaconf hangup problem was because I was running it with an ALSA driver already loaded. When I restarted the computer with no driver loaded, it was able to scan without freezing up. The bad news is that it did a complete scan and came back saying no ISA cards detected. If I manually put all the stuff shown on the ALSA website into /etc/modules.conf, the driver loads, and I get CD audio, but when I try to play a WAV file in any application, it acts as though it's playing, but there is no sound. Another thing I tried after reading back over everyone's suggestions was to run sndconfig. If I restarted with no sound drivers loaded, and then ran sndconfig, it detected my sound hardware and configured my /etc/modules.conf like this: alias sound-slot-0 cs4232 options sound dmabuf=1 alias synth0 opl3 options opl3 io=0x388 options cs4232 isapnp=1 This actually gave me sound when playing WAV files in XMMS using the OSS driver, but, when I tried to play the same file in a couple of other apps under the MultimediaSound menu, there was no sound. Also, I have seen other people talk about sounds that play when KDE starts up or shuts down, and I don't get that (I don't know if I have to configure that somewhere first). And when I go to ConfigurationConfigure Your DesktopLookNFellSystem Notifications and try to click the button to test any of the sounds, I get nothing. So, it appears that the only thing I gained by running sndconfig was that I can play files via XMMS. Just for the heck of it, I tried adding back the ALSA stuff I had previously entered into /etc/modules.conf to see if I could get better results by combining it with the stuff that sndconfig did, but it didn't work. Here are the two variations I tried: ### Start ### alias eth0 3c59x probeall usb-interface usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 cs4232 options sound dmabuf=1 alias synth0 opl3 options opl3 io=0x388 options cs4232 isapnp=1 #ALSA portion alias char-major-116 snd alias snd-card-0 snd-cs4232 options snd-cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=3 #OSS/Free portion alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 #card #1 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss ### End ### and ### Start ### alias eth0 3c59x probeall usb-interface usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 cs4232 options sound dmabuf=1 alias synth0 opl3 options opl3 io=0x388 options cs4232 isapnp=1 #ALSA portion alias char-major-116 snd alias snd-card-0 snd-cs4236 options snd-cs4236 io=0x534 cport=0x120 irq=5 dma1=1 dma2=3 #OSS/Free portion alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 #card #1 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss ### End ### As I said earlier, neither one of these worked (not that I really expected them to--I was just taking a stab in the dark). Anyway, I was encouraged when I saw that I could play a WAV file in XMMS after running sndconfig, but now I'm not sure what I really gained. I hope this info is helpful to someone that may be able to point me to the next step. Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Linux User - Need Help with Sound in New 9.2 Install
Mike Adolf said: That's great! I'll give it a try as soon as I get a chance. Did you run alsaconf to autodetect the card using that driver? Or did you just manually configure it and it worked? I probably won't get a chance to try it tonight, and I'm going to be out of town tomorrow, but I'll report back as soon as I try it. Thanks. I did not do anything with alsa at the time I changed to 4232 using harddrake. But, I may have worked (played) with alsa in earlier attempts on sound. Can't remember. Unfortunately, it didn't work for me :( I tried to run alsaconf using the 4232 drivers, and it hung my machine just like the 4236 did. Then I tried to modeprobe it, and I got a bunch of errors. Then I ran dmesg, and it said that the soundcard was not detected. At least with the 4236, I can load it. Oh well, thanks for the suggestion. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Linux User - Need Help with Sound in New 9.2 Install
Derek Jennings said: Given that your soundchip was not detected on installation, or that alsaconf fails to detect it, then I suspect you may may a problem with IRQ conflicts. If you type 'dmesg' in a terminal you will see all the boot messages. If you scroll up you may see some clues Thanks for all the tips, Derek. I just got back into town, and I probably won't have time to try them out until Monday, but I'm looking forward to it, and I will report back as soon as I have tried everything. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Linux User - Need Help with Sound in New 9.2 Install
Thanks. Derek told me the same thing, so I have taken care of that already. Shouldn't be a problem from now on. Anne Wilson said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David, could you please remove your reply-to, as it prevents replies going to the list. Further explanation at http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette On Friday 05 March 2004 01:58, David B. Carter wrote: My computer is a Dell GX1 desktop that has been upgraded to a 1Ghz Celeron CPU. It's got 128MB RAM, 10GB hard drive, and the sound is an onboard Crystal CS4236B-KQ chip. When I start up 9.2, it says it's loading Alsa 0.9.6, but, when I get into KDE, I get no sound from XMMS. KMix and alsamixer both show that everything is unmuted and turned up, but no sound. My problem is that I'm such a Linux newbie that I don't know where to go from here. Hi, David. What have you tried in xmms? Does it play an mp3 from your hard disk, for instance? Is it audio cds that are affected? What further info do I need to provide in order for someone to help me? First, check the obvious - I was caught out on this recently with a box that I didn't build myself! Is there an audio cable from your cd player to the sound card? Then, go to Configure Your Computer, Hardware, HardDrake. Check that your soundcard is correctly recognised. Click on the soundcard entry and see which driver is being used. Come back when you have checked these and we'll carry on checks. Anne - -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFASGRtkFAvMr/nNX8RAlgEAJ9mxoS0K1elO2HKdVXyBPK4BEW03ACdEExO rLnw26BwqIPnu7HYXK3wDTc=Jiom -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Linux User - Need Help with Sound in New 9.2 Install
First on the reply-to issue... I took it out once, but I must have not saved the changes. Sorry. Do I have to take it out of all identities? I would think it only needs to be changed in the one I use for list postings. Anyway, thanks for the heads up. Hopefully it won't be a problem for this message. As for alsa-utils, someone else asked me about that, but it is not currently on my system, and when I use RpmDrake to tell me what new packages are available for install, it's not listed there either. Do I need to just download and compile from the ALSA website, or is there another source to get mdk rpms from? If I do need to get it straight from ALSA, do I need to uninstall the current ALSA-related RPMs before doing so? Thanks. Sorry I'm so clueless... Derek Jennings said: On Friday 05 Mar 2004 09:20, David B. Carter wrote: Derek Jennings said: On Friday 05 Mar 2004 01:58, David B. Carter wrote: Hi all, I just subscribed to the list today in hopes of finding some help with my problem. I'm a new Linux user who's only been playing with it for a couple of weeks. My first install was RedHat 9. I spent lots of time reading and experimenting, and I finally got it set up pretty well except the sound wouldn't work. Now I just barely isntalled Mandrake 9.2 and I have the same problem. My computer is a Dell GX1 desktop that has been upgraded to a 1Ghz Celeron CPU. It's got 128MB RAM, 10GB hard drive, and the sound is an onboard Crystal CS4236B-KQ chip. When I start up 9.2, it says it's loading Alsa 0.9.6, but, when I get into KDE, I get no sound from XMMS. KMix and alsamixer both show that everything is unmuted and turned up, but no sound. My problem is that I'm such a Linux newbie that I don't know where to go from here. What further info do I need to provide in order for someone to help me? Thanks. I feel stupid because I've read all kinds of stuff the last two days trying to find and answer, but I can't seem to make much sense of it. Welcome to the list. You say there is no sound in xmms, but is there other sound? Can you hear the KDE log on sound? The CS4236 should (I think) load the snd-4236 ALSA driver by default. You can confirm which driver is in use by refferring to the hardware list in Mandrake Conytrol centre. If it is just xmms affected then check the xmms output plugin (Right Click on xmms and select Preferences) Try with the ALSA output plugin. With some sound chips it is necessary to configure the alsa output plugin and select 'AdvancedMmap mode disabled' If that does not work try the OSS output plugin. You might also like to try setting up your KDE sound In KDEControl CentreSoubdSoundSystem select the ALSA sound system. I apologize for misleading everyone, I have loaded 9.2 on two different machines in the last 48 hours, and I must have been thinking of the other one (which is not working either, but that another story for another day) when I said that ALSA is loading on startup. In reality, on this machine, my sound hardware was not automatically detected during the install, and, therefore, there are no sound drivers being loaded at all right now. I have some ALSA packages installed on the system, but nothing is being loaded. Thanks for the suggestions so far. Any further ideas would be greatly appreciated! OK In that case install alsa-utils (and newt if not already installed) Then in a terminal become root (with su) and enter alsaconf A text based GUI will configure your sound modules and write a new /etc/modules.conf file for you. Alsaconf will not copy your existing nonsound module config to the new file so **it is ESSENTIAL** to make a backup first and copy the configuration of your non sound modules back again afterwards. If the sound module still does no load correctly, then I would suspect an IRQ conflict is preventing the sound hardware being identified. That might explain why it was not detected during install. derek BTW: You still have Reply To set in your Squirrelmail email settings. It is not necessary and is a PITA (OptionsPersonal Setting) -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Linux User - Need Help with Sound in New 9.2 Install
Derek Jennings said: On Friday 05 Mar 2004 12:27, David B. Carter wrote: alsa-utils is on the install CDs. If it does not show up in rpmdrake then it may be already installed. Or else maybe you only have 1 CD (I am not sure which one it is on) If you cannot locate it just go here using konqueror ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS and click on alsa-utils and it will install. OK. I installed alsa-utils (and it dependency - pciutils) from the FTP address you gave above. It installed fine. When I ran alsaconf, it said that no PnP sound cards were detected and asked me if I wanted it to probe for ISA cards. I said OK and picked the CS4236 drivers so it would not probe for everything on the planet. Then it asked me if I wanted it to test all DMA and IRQ combinations. I said OK and it started to probe. It immediately locked up the mouse, and the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock lights on the keyboard started blinking, and it hasn't shown any signs of responsding for about 20 minutes now. OK, I went back and rebooted the system and repeated the same procedure but told it not to try all possible DMA/IRQ combinations. Same result. :( Any ideas? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] New Linux User - Need Help with Sound in New 9.2 Install
David B. Carter said: OK. I installed alsa-utils (and it dependency - pciutils) from the FTP address you gave above. It installed fine. When I ran alsaconf, it said that no PnP sound cards were detected and asked me if I wanted it to probe for ISA cards. I said OK and picked the CS4236 drivers so it would not probe for everything on the planet. Then it asked me if I wanted it to test all DMA and IRQ combinations. I said OK and it started to probe. It immediately locked up the mouse, and the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock lights on the keyboard started blinking, and it hasn't shown any signs of responsding for about 20 minutes now. OK, I went back and rebooted the system and repeated the same procedure but told it not to try all possible DMA/IRQ combinations. Same result. :( Any ideas? At the urging of someone else who's not on this list, I tried a modprobe snd-cs-4236 I'm not even 100% sure what that does, but, after unmuting several of the main channels (master, pcm, cd, etc.) in alsamixer, I now get CD audio!! Still no audio from digital audio files in XMMS (even after switching to the ALSA output plugin). Any ideas how to proceed? Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] New Linux User - Need Help with Sound in New 9.2 Install
Hi all, I just subscribed to the list today in hopes of finding some help with my problem. I'm a new Linux user who's only been playing with it for a couple of weeks. My first install was RedHat 9. I spent lots of time reading and experimenting, and I finally got it set up pretty well except the sound wouldn't work. Now I just barely isntalled Mandrake 9.2 and I have the same problem. My computer is a Dell GX1 desktop that has been upgraded to a 1Ghz Celeron CPU. It's got 128MB RAM, 10GB hard drive, and the sound is an onboard Crystal CS4236B-KQ chip. When I start up 9.2, it says it's loading Alsa 0.9.6, but, when I get into KDE, I get no sound from XMMS. KMix and alsamixer both show that everything is unmuted and turned up, but no sound. My problem is that I'm such a Linux newbie that I don't know where to go from here. What further info do I need to provide in order for someone to help me? Thanks. I feel stupid because I've read all kinds of stuff the last two days trying to find and answer, but I can't seem to make much sense of it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
