Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Apr 1, 2005 8:33 AM, Mr. Geek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys DO realise that it's April Fools Day, yes? Methinks that you have been had! Big Time! -- Mr. Geek Registered Linux User #190712 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Ya think? -- This message was sent from a GMail account. Please check the To: line on your reply to be sure the reply goes to the list, or use the reply to list option, if your mail client provides one. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Apr 1, 2005 1:18 PM, Margot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josenildo Marques wrote: I'm going to uninstall this OS as soon as possible from my computer... I can't stand it any longer. Linux sucks ! And I'm going to get a Microsoft Certificate and install Windows XP, which I have never used. Linux has no future ! And this list sucks, too ! Fare you well ! Congratulations, Josenildo! Two years running! http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg155652.html You'd hope they all have learned to read the date by now... ;-) -- Regards Margot *-*-*-* Sent using Thunderbird on a 100% Microsoft-Free Computer Registered Linux User 307617 http://counter.li.org Mandrakelinux release 10.1 (Community) for i586 kernel 2.6.8.1-24mdk ~~~ I just forgot my whole philosophy of life!!! ~~~ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com I dunno, Margot. I didn't see anyone who fell for it last year, falling for it this time 'round. Of course I didn't go through the entire message archive from last year's joke. Mark -- This message was sent from a GMail account. Please check the To: line on your reply to be sure the reply goes to the list, or use the reply to list option, if your mail client provides one. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Possible alternative format for forum
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 12:17:52 -0500, Christopher Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to get back on topic slightly. Gmail does a really good job of keeping the threads together and displaying as a single html page as specified in the original email. Being free and having very few graphics enables it to be quite speedy on almost any connection. My suggestion is to find someone with a gmail account and see about getting an invite. -- Christopher Taylor - Registered Linux User #383327 I agree with Christopher on the way Gmail handles the threading. It took me a bit to get used to it, but I really prefer it now. I've got 50 invites if anyone's interested. Most people I know don't want to take on another email account, or will be shot if they force family/friends to update their contacts listsagain! If anyone's interested, drop me a note. Mark -- This message was sent from a GMail account. Please check the To: line on your reply to be sure the reply goes to the list, or use the reply to list option, if your mail client provides one. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Tux Magazine
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:11:08 -0500, eric jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wanted to alert people to Tux Magazine. I stumbled on a link to it somewhere. www.tuxmagazine.com. It is a free linux magazine distributed in PDF format aimed at new users. There is a lot of coverage of software, again aimed at the newbie. They are also looking for people to submit articles. The first issue is on the website now. Eric Jackson Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com Thanks for the ling, Eric. Just d/l'd the first issue and scanned through it. Looks good. Mark -- This message was sent from a GMail account. Please check the To: line on your reply to be sure the reply goes to the list, or use the reply to list option, if your mail client provides one. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] Gateway BURN IN HELL!! RANT Kind of long
William Warren stated: the only time you get the error is when trying linux from what i can tell..which as i stated before is not supported by gateway. A point to note here; when Gateway says that third-party software is not supported, it simply means that they will not provide technical support for software they didn't install. Hardware would still be covered under warranty by Gateway. Three months ago, I sent back a Gateway laptop for repair, even stating it had Mandrake Linux installed on it. Such limitations on support are not uncommon with OEMs. Conversely, it's not uncommon for a vendor to deny support for OEM versions of a product. It used to be (not sure it still is now, as I don't call software support, in general) that Microsoft would not support a pre-installed version of their products, referring you instead to the vendor who provided your pre-installed copy. My take on the issue that Marc is having here is that it's either an incompatibility between hardware (very likely since vendors seem to buy in bulk and then assemble components to build a model) or a BIOS strictly designed for Windows. I may, if I get a chance in the next day or so, try to install Mandrake on a newer (model E-6000) Gateway here at the office to see if I see the same problem. Mark Kirschner Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
RE: [newbie] openoffice sous win et linux?
Bob Read asked: Could it be that you are not using identical fonts in Win and Linux? Olivier Esser wrote: Hello everybody, Please excuse me!. I am subscribed to both French and English list and I have use the wrong address! My problem was that a same word document does not open exactly in the same way under openoffice 1.1 under linux and windows. This concerns essentialy the page breaks. How about differences in the printer driver? I know that WordPerfect (way back when) was touchy about even the slightest difference in printer driver. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux and power on notebook?
On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 19:26:00 -0500 rhein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, That's now the second time that my notebook shuts down because I'm not able to see the level of my battery. Good thing I didn't have to start all over because I saved my work a few minutes before. Is there a way to have the battery indicator under MDK 9.2? (by the way I think the battery goes faster then with XP...??) Also when I'm working the fan is running more often then with XP. Is there something to modify? Thanks Christophe ps: I have a Compaq nx9005 Christophe, I'm only running 9.1, so I'm not sure how relevant it is to your situation. I have the battery indicator on mine. I'm running KDE and found you can set it this way: Click the K menu Click Configuration Click KDE Click PowerControl Click Laptop Battery You should see a check box for Show Battery Monitor. Make sure it's set. You may want to look for something similar. As for life in XP vs, Linux, I don't see much battery life difference between the two on my laptop. Perhaps it has somehting to do with power settings in each? XP may have a more conservative power use profile. Just some thoughts Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Mandrake support for Cisco wireless Network Cards
Greg Meyer said: On Thursday 04 March 2004 02:05 pm, Mark Kirschner wrote: Hi all. I've an opportunity to pick up a laptop with a wireless network adapter (Cisco Aironet 350 PCMCIA card). I have been unsuccessful with getting this same card to work under Mandrake 9.1, and the only help I've come across said to downgrade the card firmware. Does anyone know if 9.2 supports this card, or if 10.0 will when released? I'll admit, I've not yet delved into the prospect of researching hardware requirements (between health issues, classwork and a job search, I've had little time lately for research on the issue). 10.0 supports this card as the airo_mpi driver maintained by Fabrice Bellet has been merged into the 2.6.3 kernel. 9.2 does not support it out of the box, but airo_mpi installs easily and works great. It is required that the card firmware remain at an older version. I have not found this to be a problem at all, since I rarely use Windows. I just make sure I am using the Windows driver that matches the firmware. I think it is 5.00.03 of something close. More info here http://bellet.info/~bellet/laptop/ -- /g Thanks, Greg. I'll keep this information handy for when I get the computer. Windows compatibility is, unfortunately, a concern as this will be the sole computer in the house, and my wife is still firmly attached to Windows XP (attempts to win her to the Linux side failed miserably due to poor planning on my part). To make sure I'm reading you correctly, Greg; 10.0 will support the card natively with no firmware change? But to use airo_mpi and 9.2, I need to step the firmware back? Fortunately, the laptop's got an on-board NIC, so I can connect to our cable modem with a long Cat5, just have to sacrifice mobility for a bit. Thanks again for your response. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake support for Cisco wireless Network Cards
Hi all. I've an opportunity to pick up a laptop with a wireless network adapter (Cisco Aironet 350 PCMCIA card). I have been unsuccessful with getting this same card to work under Mandrake 9.1, and the only help I've come across said to downgrade the card firmware. Does anyone know if 9.2 supports this card, or if 10.0 will when released? I'll admit, I've not yet delved into the prospect of researching hardware requirements (between health issues, classwork and a job search, I've had little time lately for research on the issue). TIA, Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 03:43:49 -0500 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OH MY Deity! Sam Adams? Pilsner Urquell ? Where the devil are you Carroll ?? Jeez ! What ever happened to the classy people who drink Sleeman's, or Rickards Red, or Guiness Stout for Pete's sake ! If you keep drinking that stuff, this list will start getting a bad name ! Grin! Hey! Don't be knockin' Pilsner Urquell. Perhaps Ms. Carol desires a bottle straight from Pilsen, and not the import stuff. Ya never know...agree with ya on Sam Adams... Goodnight all ! May you dream of fat, happy penguins all sitting on the face of Bill Gates! ( OOOh! Too much information! Sorry for the mental image that this leaves behind! ) Gee, thanks...Maybe I can go home sick now... Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Qwest/MSN DSL combo
BTW, you're not the Mark Kirschner I knew at Fort Meade, MD? No, that would be a different Mark Kirschner. Never been to MD. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] menu/rpm bug update
Eric Huff said: There was another update on the menu bug. If interested, i added the 2nd advisory link: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/FiveStarNews eric -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Thanks for letting us know...pondering spending a rainy day this weekend installing 9.2...we'll see if and how it goes Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Visio-like software for Linux/Mandrake?
Sorry if this is repeat, got a bounce from sympa that the original was Interpreted to contain a command. OK, I'll admit I'm just jumping a step and going right to those who have more time in the trenches w/ Linux. I'm taking a class that requires creation of network diagrams. Recommended software (from the instructor) is Viso for Windows. Well, I don't plan to do any coursework in Windows, so I need to locate a similar software package for Linux. Any suggestions? Thanks, Mark Kirschner Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Bit of humor to lighten things up
Wondered when someone would catch that! Yes, THE same Gates. Only I'm not in the money making side, but the money spending side things. Well, at least for a few more months. The program I am involved with wraps up at the end of 2004, and my department (Technical Support) is starting to scale back staff as the number of libraries we support decreases. Mark Kirschner -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Carroll Grigsby Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 5:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Bit of humor to lighten things up On Friday 21 November 2003 04:09 pm, Mark Kirschner wrote: Thought this might lighten things up after all the subscription problems. http://media2.funnyjunk.com/pictures/0011.gif Mark: This gatesfoundation.org in your email address -- is that THE Gates? (We won't tell, honest.) -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] GnuPG - getting it set up
Charlie said: Before we get nuts with GNuPG let's get some software sources set up for you, all right? First since I hate switching CDs: urpmi.removemedia -a Then: urpmi.addmedia main ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz urpmi.addmedia contrib ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/9.2/contrib/i586 with ../../i586/Mandrake/base/hdlist2.cz urpmi.addmedia plf ftp://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/linux/plf/mandrake/9.2 with hdlist.cz urpmi.addmedia update_source ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz After that, and since you're using KDE as the desk-top manager: urpmi kgpg enter Charlie, when you list a URL followed by with , are we to append the information following the with to the end of the url? For instance, when you posted for urpmi.addmedia update_source: ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS with ../base/hdlist.cz Do I enter ftp://ftp.uninett.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake/updates/9.2/RPMS/../base/hdlist.cz? Slightly confused (or it's Monday, or both), Mark Kirschner Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] GnuPG - getting it set up
Charlie said: It seems it's always Monday here in Edmonton Mark. g Why not just open the terminal, su to become super user and copy and paste the command in? Isn't that easier? If you want to type the lines in manually you have to type _exactly_ what I posted to use the sources I showed. That may not be a good idea since you should probably pick a mirror closer to home for your installation. Besides we don't really want everyone pulling from the same mirrors and there are lots to choose from. Or just go here: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon to do things the *really* easy way. The instructions and what's and wherefore's are all on the page. Handy tool that Olivier built, isn't it? (-; Regards; Charlie Thanks, Charlie, I took a quick look at that site just now. I'll use it for my Linux box. Of course I'd copy and paste, where I can. To quote a former college professor or mine, work smarter, not harder. OK, so it's probably not an original saying from him, but it works. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Bit of humor to lighten things up
Thought this might lighten things up after all the subscription problems. http://media2.funnyjunk.com/pictures/0011.gif Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Why MicroSlop wants Google!
mwafkowski said: That article belongs in a rag such as the (US) National Inquirier...come one people. You're really not that bored?! Nope...please note the National Enquirer URL: http://www.nationalenquirer.com/ and the URL for the article: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=12603 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Pre-Linux install: Hardware identification tool?
OK, I'm about to take the plunge and get my home PC on Linux (got a plan so that I can have my Linux, and the wife can use MS stuff until I can sell her on Linux: Separate hard drives in removable caddies! I have a slight problem though, and maybe the wizards here can steer me in the right direction. My home PC is three years old, with a PCChips system board. Well, I was cheap (near broke) when I got it, and cheaper now. The system board has all the devices on board: video, sound, NIC and modem. I can't find the book that came w/ the system board, so don't know really what model it is (well, I can probably use a part code from the board), but I remember last time I attempted Linux on this box (RH6, gave up out of frustration, and needed a system working faster than I was getting w/ RH), I couldn't find drivers for the devices (PCChips didn't and may still not support Linux). I am hoping I can find a utility that will identify the peripheral components that are in my computer, maybe by chipset so I can try to find appropriate Linux drivers that don't auto-detect at setup. Is there such a beast in existence? Any suggestions for me that can make this go smoothly? Aside from buy a new computer (unless someone wants to send me one free of charge, PC replacement is not in the budget...we kind of like eating you know, and the computer components are crunchy and bland! ;) Thanks for any help here. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Pre-Linux install: Hardware identification tool?
Derek Jennings said: Things have changed since RH6 The chances of your chipset not being auto detected are very slight. If a driver exists for your hardware (and it almost certainly does) then it will be automatically installed. Linux is a *lot* easier than Windows to install :-) Thanks, Derek, I'll give it a run, this weekend (maybe). Whaddya mean Linux is a lot easier? Windows just takes over the computer and does...OHI see (LOL) easier to take control of your own installation! ;) And I was wondering why on my PC here at work I actually had to think about things when installing! N.B. Day, I will also download Knoppix to a disk and see what that does... maybe a more run-time type version of Linux could help me sell my wife on it. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Redhat = traitors???
Ronald J. Hall said: Read the excerpt, follow the link for the complete story: Red Hat's chief executive has said that Linux needs to mature further before home users will get a positive experience from the operating system, saying they should choose Windows instead... Matthew Szulik, chief executive of Linux vendor Red Hat, said on Monday that although Linux is capable of exceeding expectations for corporate users, home users should stick with Windows: 'I would say that for the consumer market place, Windows probably continues to be the right product line,' he said... http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2003110401326NWDTRH -- I think that some statements made in the article are right on. Now, don't shoot me for saying that. In the time since I started hearing about Linux (summer, '95) until I really took the plunge and started working with it (about a month or so ago), I have heard and read frequently about how Linux was sooo much better than any MS alternative. This, I won't dispute. However, there are some Linux advocates that will, without fail, push Linux as an all-purpose solution in every situation. Not necessarily true. Corporate/enterprise users generally have an established IT and support structure in place. Computers are often standardized to a common specification or set of specifications, so it is easier to create, deploy and support a standard desktop image. Home users do not have this luxury. Many want the computer to simply work. Most don't want to have to work to get the system to do what they want it to do. The 80s mentality of a computer user that it's OK to have to know something about the system is now the minority among computer users. The Macintosh and Windows are largely responsible for this situation. I am, and most on this list are, part of that minority. My wife is an example of the majority. I let her work on a laptop that only had Mandrake on it, and she was not happy. It didn't look like Windows, it didn't behave like Windows (similar, but not exactly...and she didn't get to the stability and all that, didn't give it sufficient chance), and I didn't (and still don't) know quite enough to get things to do just what she wants (give me time, and she will see a Linux system set just as she wants it, behaving as she should expect). Add to this mentality the often discussed and disparaged tendency of hardware makers targeting home consumers with budget hardware designed to defer to Windows and you have a configuration and driver headache. If the average home user had the mentality that it's good to know a little bit about how to configure their computer (beyond adding a theme, setting a screen saver, or arranging icons), and if the home user would not settle for the consumer grade computers they can pick up at Costco, Sears, Circuit City, or from Gateway and Dell for cheap, then the reality of Linux as a viable option on every desktop will be a reality. No, the guy from Red Hat is not a traitor. He's just being honest with expectations. Of course, I think most of us here would take less exception if he'd had said many home users or had similarly qualified his statement about Windows still being a more appropriate option for some. Just my two cents. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] LG CDRoms
HaywireMac said: how were they to know it was junk hardware? Cuz it cost = 20 dollars ;-) Since when was price indicative of quality? Compare price and quality in the software market (specifically desktop OS) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Where to post on reply
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Johan Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:36 AM To: Mandrake-newbie Subject: [newbie] Where to post on reply Hi, Have I missed a new rule about posting on reply (top - middle -bottom)??? I prefer top - why - when I open mail there already visible the reply. Maybe it just of preference. OK some require to post at the question when more then one question. Johan May this be a good day for learning Registered Linux user # 330034 I believe it is preferred here, and even detailed in the list FAQ on Twiki that replies are bottom posted. The reason for this, ostensibly is so that the reader can read the reply in context to the question asked. Shortly after I began to follow this list, there was a series of list nazi posts reminding people to bottom, or at least inline, post their replies to the messages. Of course, some mail programs (blasted outlook) don't let you change the reply option to bottom post. Speaking of personal preference, I prefer the bottom post for general reply, inline for multiple point replies. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Where to post on reply
HaywireMac correctly chastised me: Of course, you are also supposed to set your line wrap at less than 72 chars as well ;-) I repeat...blasted outlook (postin' from work, doncha know) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Wireless LAN support in Mdk 9.2: Cisco Aironet?
Hi folks, hope you can help me out with this. I am running Mdk 9.1 on a Gateway Solo 9500 laptop. I have from my office a Cisco Aironet 350 wireless card. When I installed 9.1 on the laptop, I was unable to get the wireless card working (well, I was told I could flash it back to a previous firmware to make it work, but being a company asset, not my own, I'm leery to mess with it like that). Does anyone know if 9.2 will provide support for the Cisco Aironet card? In previous attempts to get this card working, I downloaded and installed it seems like half a dozen different PCMCIA and Cisco drivers, all to no avail. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Mark Kirschner Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
