Re: [newbie] permissions on DOS_hda1
Actually, Mike's response was right on the mark, he gets it more than you think. I for one want to learn. I have learned from the (mostly) good folks on this list. Valjean On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Alan Shoemaker wrote: Mikenever mind, you just don't seem to get it. I consider this subject closed. Alan Mike Corbeil wrote: Alan Shoemaker wrote: Mikecorrect me if I'm wrong, but aren't you the guy who's been telling some folks in this list that their questions aren't appropriate for this forum and to go ask them in the expert list? Well I think that your response in this thread (quoted below) was not appropriate for the newbie list. The remedy here was very simple and your four rambling paragraphs have simply served to confuse the issue. Not really, but then maybe I've been accustomed to less than trivial for longer [snip] [snip] argumentation or discourse. mike Alan Mike Corbeil wrote: Alan Shoemaker wrote: Bobyou also need to include umask=0 on that line in /etc/fstab. Must be a fairly new requirement, or there's a difference in the default umask value between RH 5.1 and Mandrake, because I don't need umask=0 to be able to write to my dos partitions. I merely set it to noauto,rw and this is adequate. The only reason you'ld need to included umask=0 is because of the system-wide default value for it, probably defined in /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc. This may also depend on whether you're allowing only root to write or make changes to the dos partitions, or also allowing users. I don't give users access to my dos partitions, albeit it's a standalone system and I'm the only user anyway. I read somewhere, recently, that umask should be set to 0 in the system-wide login scripts, but that's the opinion of one author of documentation. If, however, you're going to set umask to 0 for the dos partition(s), then you might want to simply set the system-wide value to this anyway, which means you wouldn't need to include this in fstab. You'ld need to do some research through various documents which touch upon this subject, before taking my word as gospel. mike Alan Cox Family wrote: another stumper for me? I just wanted to make a new directory on the DOS partition that I could put some WP8 files in (because the apostrophe comes out on the printer as something stupid in Linux right now) and it said I didn't have permission. I checked the "fstab" and hda1 includes "user" in permissions. I checked properties by right-clicking on the icon and it includes user, group and others for both read and write. OK, so I made the directory as super-user, gave it "a+rwx" permissions, and still couldn't save a file in it. Access denied. No permission to write or what ever Again, what am I missing here? Bob
Re: [Re: [newbie] Install-Networking] (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:11:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Valjean [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] Install-Networking] Ok, in my little network here..(from an earlier post) [Ethernet][Computer A] [switching] [hookup] [Mandrake-Linux 7] [hub][Computer B] [to campus] [Acting as gateway]| [Windows 95] | | [Computer C] [some other os] I assigned Computer A at eth0 an "internal" IP of 192.168.0.1 and eth1 is using the the campus DHCP server to lease its IP address. And it works..in the boot sequence, they all read as OK. In the Computer B, running Windows 95, I changed the TCP/IP properties so that it is using 192.168.0.1 as a gateway, I set it to "specify an IP address" of 192.168.0.2, and the DNS config is as follows: "Host"- anyname, used mackenzie..."Domain"- myschool'sdomain.edu..."DNS Search Order"- IP address of primary and secondary DNS servers..."Suffix Search Order"(something like that)- my school's domain name.edu. Sound ok? Computer C is (gasp) a Mac..an old mac. I know, but it was free and it's part of the challenge. I haven't setup the Mac yet (it's running MacOS 7.1 with MacTCP). Then I turned to the IPCHAINS and IP Masquerading HOWTOs at www.linuxdoc.org.more than a bit confusing...but I did setup /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall, with my information. (As a bonus the IP Masquerding HOWTO has setups for Mac). Is there anything I am missing? Valjean
[newbie] Re: [expert] Stop using kdm
Then how do I switch window managers midstream? I boot to a command prompt and when I hit startx, it loads Gnome. I want to use Window Maker. How do I switch to that? Valjean On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Mike Corbeil wrote: Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: Matt Stegman wrote: No, startx does not start kdm. startx will start X, and load kde by default, or another window manager - you can use any of several tools to change this. Qué? In Mandrake, startx gives you kdm. No, it doesn't. I think that what the person means is that Mandrake configured kde as the default window manager and desktop. This may have been through a user choice made during the installation process, or the default the Mandrake distribution which was installed. To an unknowing user, this could cause startx to look like it gives kdm or kde as the default. Only by reading documentation on this does a person realize that startx only gives or brings up what it's instructed to do so, through configuration files, e.g. ~/.Xclients. Without reading the documentation on this process, many newbies to X and the wm's can easily think that startx is to "blame". startx is a "front-end" and depends on configuration files, to know what to do. To learn about startx and configuring which wm's to use or have a choice of, people need to read the documentation on this, or wait until someone repeats it. True, startx doesn't decide what wm is to be used, but it can seem like it does for people who don't know what's actually going on. mike
Re: [newbie] telnet and X
Ok, when I try to telnet to my computer from another machine, even in the same domain, I get Trying x.x.x.x...(my ip address) telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused the telnetd line in my inetd.conf file is telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd you mean when I type telnetd at the command prompt? I get: bash: telnetd: command not found Valjean..frustrated On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Stephen F. Bosch wrote: Valjean wrote: This is really frustrating meall I want to do is telnet into my machine running Mandrake 7.0..when I installed it the first time, I could do it. Every install since then I have not not been able to. I have installed the telnet server package from the second cd with the rpm -ivh packagename.rpm and the telnet line is uncommented in my /etc/inetd.conf...so why can't I telnet to my machine? is there some other thing to setup? What do I have to do to get this thing to work? What is your telnetd line in /etc/inetd.conf? And... what happens when you try and start telnetd from the command line? -Stephen-
Re: [newbie] telnet and X
Okay, from the command prompt, I want you to: # su Password: $ updatedb (this could take a bit) ok..that took while..no errors though..what did that just do? $ exit # locate in.telnetd result of this command: /usr/man/man8/in.telnetd.8.bz2 /usr/sbin/in.telnetd (to make sure this file exists) # locate telnetd result of this command: /usr/lib/telnetd /usr/lib/telnetd/login /usr/man/man8/in.telnetd.8.bz2 /usr/man/man8/telnetd.8.bz2 /usr/sbin/in.telnetd look ok? should I try it? oh and never mind the x question..I figured it out..Window Maker is working as my default...yay me..hey it's a little victory but I felt good when it worked. Valjean
Re: [Re: [newbie] Install-Networking]
Exactly. I've been on far too many lists and read far too many newsgroups that profess to want to help newbies and instead harass and make fun of them. Also, I've seen lists where they response from the so-called gurus is to "just go here and read it" instead of any real advice. The main fact of the matter is that Stephen F. Bosch doesn't have to answer any posts at all..it's not his job nor an obligation and it's a major committment to sit and wade through all the messages and when he sees something he can contribute to, write in. I know, I may be a newbie at Linux, but I have been on the other end with other computer-related topics and believe you me I bet there are plenty of folks who thank Stephen for his candor and information. my 4 cents Valjean On Mon, 17 Apr 2000, Stephen F. Bosch wrote: I enjoy helping people out, and I've benefitted many times in the past from the assistance of others. I get concerned when I see people giving advice on things they don't fully understand. I'm always clear about what I do and do not understand. If I don't understand something, I either don't post a reply, or I qualify my reply. The last thing I want to do is get people into trouble. The last two days of posts on home networking, however, have scared the bejesus out of me, because I saw people building precarious houses of cards on bad information disguised as good. All I'm trying to do is break the cycle. I know I get on Mr. Jaguar's nerves, there's not much I can do about that. For what it's worth, I'm on both lists... and while I don't proclaim expert status myself (in the end it's all relative anyway, there's always someone who's more expert) wouldn't you agree that it's important for people with more experience to also contribute a bit to the newbie list? Where are newbies going to get the information otherwise? -Stephen- Dreja Julag wrote: I am sure that this is true, but still, he should atleast offer his help in a manner that does not make the newbies offended. That is what this list is about -- newbies communicating and exchanging their information for the benefit of the entire group. So, Steve, I ask that you will atleast become a little more understanding. Thanks Drew Jackman [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 20177604 - Original Message - From: "Valjean" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [Re: [newbie] Install-Networking] Now wait, Stephen has been immensely helpful. Simply by reading his posts, I have learned a lot, and for the most part been able to setup my network. He's not the first and last word on networking but he seems to know what he's talking about so let him speak. Valjean thanks Stephen On 16 Apr 2000, Jaguar wrote: As a side point to this thread... Who the hell made you, Stephen, _THE_ first and last word on Networks. Yes I agree "typo's" confuse newbie's, but I think they are adult enough to choose which IP subnet they want to use. And isn't this a forum for newbie questions/problems/mistakes If you are SOO knowledgable please excuse yourself from our newbieness, and hop on over to the expert list. My $0.02 worth. Jaguar "Stephen F. Bosch" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Chaikelson wrote: If I'm interpreting what you said correctly ... First set up the linux gateway to receive its Internet connection (from campus) on eth0. Once you've tested that and ensured that your Internet connection is working on the Linux gateway, then set up eth1 to be some virtual ip address. For example, in my network, I have eth0 set up as the IP address given to me from a cable modem connection, and then eth1 is set to 192.168.0.1 This is good so far... The other computers in my network, which get their Internet connection through the linux gateway are 192.16.8.0.2 - 102.168.0.5. Whoa whoa whoa WHOA! Is there something in the water? The first address has *5* (count 'em) octets -- that's a completely illegal address -- and the second one has got to be a typo -- these two addresses are on different networks. People, *please* - if you're going to start fiddling with gateways and masquerading, get a decent book on the fundamentals of TCP/IP first! You can't administer a gateway server unless you do -- you're just asking for trouble. Let's go over it again, just to be sure. The three private networks are, in order of size: 10.0.0.0 (class A) 172.16.0.0 (class B) 192.168.0.0 (class C (there are actually a set of them)) And yes, before everybody hollers "it was just a typo!" - typos ARE bad because they completely
Re: [Re: [newbie] Install-Networking]
Ok, in my little network here..(from an earlier post) [Ethernet][Computer A] [switching] [hookup] [Mandrake-Linux 7] [hub][Computer B] [to campus] [Acting as gateway]| [Windows 95] | | [Computer C] [some other os] I assigned Computer A at eth0 an "internal" IP of 192.168.0.1 and eth1 is using the the campus DHCP server to lease its IP address. And it works..in the boot sequence, they all read as OK. In the Computer B, running Windows 95, I changed the TCP/IP properties so that it is using 192.168.0.1 as a gateway, I set it to "specify an IP address" of 192.168.0.2, and the DNS config is as follows: "Host"- anyname, used mackenzie..."Domain"- myschool'sdomain.edu..."DNS Search Order"- IP address of primary and secondary DNS servers..."Suffix Search Order"(something like that)- my school's domain name.edu. Sound ok? Computer C is (gasp) a Mac..an old mac. I know, but it was free and it's part of the challenge. I haven't setup the Mac yet (it's running MacOS 7.1 with MacTCP). Then I turned to the IPCHAINS and IP Masquerading HOWTOs at www.linuxdoc.org.more than a bit confusing...but I did setup /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall, with my information. (As a bonus the IP Masquerding HOWTO has setups for Mac). Is there anything I am missing? Valjean
Re: [Re: [newbie] Install-Networking]
Ok, in my little network here..(from an earlier post) [Ethernet][Computer A] [switching] [hookup] [Mandrake-Linux 7] [hub][Computer B] [to campus] [Acting as gateway]| [Windows 95] | | [Computer C] [some other os] I assigned Computer A at eth0 an "internal" IP of 192.168.0.1 and eth1 is using the the campus DHCP server to lease its IP address. And it works..in the boot sequence, they all read as OK. In the Computer B, running Windows 95, I changed the TCP/IP properties so that it is using 192.168.0.1 as a gateway, I set it to "specify an IP address" of 192.168.0.2, and the DNS config is as follows: "Host"- anyname, used mackenzie..."Domain"- myschool'sdomain.edu..."DNS Search Order"- IP address of primary and secondary DNS servers..."Suffix Search Order"(something like that)- my school's domain name.edu. Sound ok? Computer C is (gasp) a Mac..an old mac. I know, but it was free and it's part of the challenge. I haven't setup the Mac yet (it's running MacOS 7.1 with MacTCP). Then I turned to the IPCHAINS and IP Masquerading HOWTOs at www.linuxdoc.org.more than a bit confusing...but I did setup /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall, with my information. (As a bonus the IP Masquerding HOWTO has setups for Mac). Is there anything I am missing? Valjean PS: Also I want to setup the telnet server for my gateway machine (Computer A) so I can telnet in from anywhere...or would I be better off going with ssh? are these packages on the second mandrake cd? how would I install them? use the rpm command?
Re: [newbie] Install-Networking
A quick question folks: I want to setup my network as diagrammed: [Ethernet][Computer A] [switching] [hookup] [Mandrake-Linux 7] [hub]-- [Computer B] [to campus] [Acting as gateway] | [Windows 95] | | [Computer C] [some other os] I do this so all three computers won't need their own IP addresses (for a multitude of reasons). I have two NICs in Computer A obviously..both the same kind. I am doing a fresh install of Mandrake and I am at the LAN setup point. I know eth0 is the NIC that will be going to the switch and that eth1 will be the NIC connected to the ethernet network. I can let DHCP assign the IP for eth1 (the IP of computer A)..but what do I fill in for the IP address slot for eth0? It won't let me enter nothing and if I fill check "Automatic IP, for DHCP/Bootp" it will fail out because it's simply wired to the switch. Valjean On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, Stephen F. Bosch wrote: Dreja Julag wrote: When I say that, I mean that I will use one of two types. One is the coaxial type, which I would not mind using being that it is easy to set up. The other one is the one that is commonly used because of it's cheapness: it looks somewhat like a telephone cable and it usually requires hubs. I will use this type for my network, providing that I can get a cross-over cable. Thanks So you're talking about either 10Base2 (RG58 coaxial cable) or 10BaseT (Category 5 unshielded twisted pair). You can get combo cards, did you know that? They're not any more expensive, though they're not as easy to find any more because fewer and fewer businesses use 10Base2. -Stephen-
Re: [Re: [newbie] Install-Networking]
Now wait, Stephen has been immensely helpful. Simply by reading his posts, I have learned a lot, and for the most part been able to setup my network. He's not the first and last word on networking but he seems to know what he's talking about so let him speak. Valjean thanks Stephen On 16 Apr 2000, Jaguar wrote: As a side point to this thread... Who the hell made you, Stephen, _THE_ first and last word on Networks. Yes I agree "typo's" confuse newbie's, but I think they are adult enough to choose which IP subnet they want to use. And isn't this a forum for newbie questions/problems/mistakes If you are SOO knowledgable please excuse yourself from our newbieness, and hop on over to the expert list. My $0.02 worth. Jaguar "Stephen F. Bosch" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Chaikelson wrote: If I'm interpreting what you said correctly ... First set up the linux gateway to receive its Internet connection (from campus) on eth0. Once you've tested that and ensured that your Internet connection is working on the Linux gateway, then set up eth1 to be some virtual ip address. For example, in my network, I have eth0 set up as the IP address given to me from a cable modem connection, and then eth1 is set to 192.168.0.1 This is good so far... The other computers in my network, which get their Internet connection through the linux gateway are 192.16.8.0.2 - 102.168.0.5. Whoa whoa whoa WHOA! Is there something in the water? The first address has *5* (count 'em) octets -- that's a completely illegal address -- and the second one has got to be a typo -- these two addresses are on different networks. People, *please* - if you're going to start fiddling with gateways and masquerading, get a decent book on the fundamentals of TCP/IP first! You can't administer a gateway server unless you do -- you're just asking for trouble. Let's go over it again, just to be sure. The three private networks are, in order of size: 10.0.0.0 (class A) 172.16.0.0 (class B) 192.168.0.0 (class C (there are actually a set of them)) And yes, before everybody hollers "it was just a typo!" - typos ARE bad because they completely confuse newbies and just create a lot of misery for everybody. I don't like people using anything but Class C addresses for home networks. You do NOT need a Class A (16 MILLION addresses) network to run 3 machines on your home LAN! If you do use one you make it much easier to screw something up and make the whole thing not work and with some people using Class Bs and some using Cs, you get people writing this: "Machine A has an IP of 172.168.2.10 and my gateway is 192.168.0.1 -- it doesn't work! Please help!" If you don't know what a network class is or what it means, or what the difference between a network and a node address is, *get a book on TCP/IP*. -Stephen- The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Problems
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Ove Peter wrote: Some networking problems: I am hooked to my campus ethernet network. While running windows, I get tremendous throughput loading pages, doing ftp, etc..now in netscape in linux, I am getting throughput no higher than 3.5k/sec and then it starts dropping, and stalls out..goes back up to 3.5/3.6 and drops slowly to 3.0, 2.9,2.8..etc then stalls out.. any ideas? I am using an AMD K6-II 350 overclocked to 400, 128 megs SDRAM, an SMC EtherEZ 8416 NIC, mandrake 7.0 I think that´s a Netscape related problem. Actually I´m so fed up with Netscape that I don´t use it anymore... Question: when installing Mandrake and networking, it asked for the type of NIC I had...well my card type (above) wasn't listed so I choose SMC Ultra...do you think it has anything to do with using this driver rather than one for my NIC that's more exact? I checked SMC's website and I believe that it has a driver for my specific card...or am I being stupid? Valjean
Re: [newbie] Problems
This message uses a character set that is not supported by the Internet Service. To view the original message content, open the attached message. If the text doesn't display correctly, save the attachment to disk, and then open it using a viewer that can display the original character set. message.txt Received: from inbox.ea.com ([159.153.89.3]) by eahq-bh2.ea.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id 251JV9V9; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:47:00 -0700 Received: from mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com [216.71.84.35]) by inbox.ea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA29021 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:42:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sympa@localhost) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA24525 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:04:44 -0500 Received: from gort.canisius.edu (gort.canisius.edu [138.92.8.8]) by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24231 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:03:44 -0500 Received: from gort.canisius.edu (gort.canisius.edu [138.92.8.8]) by gort.canisius.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA21037 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:39:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:39:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Valjean [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Problems In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN X-Mime-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com id LAA24231 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sequence: 886 Precedence: list Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com id LAA24525 On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Ove Peter wrote: Some networking problems: I am hooked to my campus ethernet network. While running windows, I get tremendous throughput loading pages, doin= g ftp, etc..now in netscape in linux, I am getting throughput no higher = than 3.5k/sec and then it starts dropping, and stalls out..goes back up to 3.5/3.6 and drops slowly to 3.0, 2.9,2.8..etc then stalls out.. any ideas? I am using an AMD K6-II 350 overclocked to 400, 128 megs SDRAM, an SMC EtherEZ 8416 NIC, mandrake 7.0 =20 I think that=B4s a Netscape related problem. Actually I=B4m so fed up w= ith=20 Netscape that I don=B4t use it anymore...=20 Question: when installing Mandrake and networking, it asked for the type of NIC I had...well my card type (above) wasn't listed so I choose SMC Ultra...do you think it has anything to do with using this driver rather than one for my NIC that's more exact? I checked SMC's website and I believe that it has a driver for my specific card...or am I being stupid? Valjean
[newbie] Setup
anyone know how to select different window managers from inside xwindows? I think KDE is the reason I've been freezing so I'm going to try another, perhaps window maker. Valjean
[newbie] Problems
I have one 8.5 gig hd and one cdrom. I want to hook up two more hard drives, copy some data from them, and then remove them from the system. How do I get Linux to recognize them so I can copy, then remove them from the system as easily? Valjean
[newbie] Problems
Some networking problems: I am hooked to my campus ethernet network. While running windows, I get tremendous throughput loading pages, doing ftp, etc..now in netscape in linux, I am getting throughput no higher than 3.5k/sec and then it starts dropping, and stalls out..goes back up to 3.5/3.6 and drops slowly to 3.0, 2.9,2.8..etc then stalls out.. any ideas? I am using an AMD K6-II 350 overclocked to 400, 128 megs SDRAM, an SMC EtherEZ 8416 NIC, mandrake 7.0 . Also, I had the same problem as I thought the others did...I try to telnet to my machine from somewhere else, and it says connected...I wait for the login prompt, it hesitates and then the connection is dropped. I know I should edit my /etc/inetd file..what should I make sure it has to be able to telnet in? I just want to be able to telnet and ftp into my machine, s'all. Thanks Valjean
Re: [newbie] Problems
Thanks for the info..I know all about removing and reinstalled hdds,
they're ide sorry. I know about the hard drive stuff, I just needed to
know how to setup Linux to recognize and mount them.
The two extra drives are actually at the moment in another machine, which
does have a NIC and runs Windows 95. I do have some crossover cable..how
could I software-wise set up the linux and windows machine to interface
and be able to share files?
Val
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Mike Corbeil wrote:
Valjean wrote:
I have one 8.5 gig hd and one cdrom. I want to hook up two more hard
drives, copy some data from them, and then remove them from the system.
How do I get Linux to recognize them so I can copy, then remove them from
the system as easily?
Valjean
What type of HDDs do you have, IDE or SCSI? This is a piece of information
you could have included.
Assuming IDE, max two internal HDDs and not having a means of connecting the
two HDDs externally, the following is one way to do what you want to do.
From this you should be able to infer what to do under difference
circumstances.
- Install one of the HDDs as the second HDD, which will be seen by Linux as
/dev/hdb (for IDE)
NOTE: Refer to your PC system manual for how to install and change
HDDs for
electrical protection and proper jumper settings.
- Boot up your Linux configuration.
- Mount the hdb filesystem you'll be copying the data from (mount command,
if doing this from the command line).
- Copy the data from the hdb fs to where ever you want it on your hda Linux
configuration.
- Unmount hdb (umount command, if doing this from the command line).
- Shutdown your Linux configuration and power off the PC.
- Remove hdd
NOTE: Follow your PC manual for electrical safety, and reset
jumper settings to
the original settings.
- Repeat for the second HDD you want to copy data from.
This is a grosso-modo guideline. Make sure to follow your PC manual for
installing and removing HDDs. You want to follow this manual to also know
how to install the HDDs as secondary drives.
One way to mount hdb is as follows:
- Create the directory hdb in /mnt, that is, /mnt/hdb.
- Run the mount command to mount the filesystem on hdb.
How to run the mount command:
% mount -vt {fs-type} /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb
This will allow you to access the fs on hdb. However, this is also assuming
that hdb has one, single, filesystem on it, or that the filesystem on hdb
you wish to access is hdb1.
If hdb1 is not correct, then you'll need to determine which /dev/hdb{n}
block device file to use, and this can be done using fdisk, running fdisk
with /dev/hdb as an argument:
% fdisk /dev/hdb
Once in fdisk, type p and press Enter. This will display the filesystems on
hdb, which shows the associated /dev/hdb{n} files the filesystems are mapped
to.
{fs-type} for the mount command's -t option depends on the type of
filesystem you'll be copying the data from. If it's a Linux filesystem,
then the value for -t is likely
ext2
If the filesystem is a MSDOS filesystem, then the -t argument is likely
vfat
You may want to specify another mount option, to mount read-only; however,
if memory is accurate, then this is the default, that is, filesystems being
mounted read-only (not whether or not my accurate memory should be
read-only, definitely doesn't sound like a good idea, unless born with all
of the knowledge one will ever need - lousy option for teachers).
You may need to be root to mount the hdb filesystem, depending on the
privileges assigned to the user account you'ld otherwise be using. If
you're doing this as a user other than root and the mount fails because the
user doesn't have the permissions to mount hdb, then simply switch (su) to
root and then run the mount command.
If you're using SCSI HDDs, instead of IDE, then the /dev file to use is not
/dev/hdb{n}, but instead /dev/sdb{n}. This should also be shown by fdisk,
and when you'ld run fdisk, the argument for fdisk would be /dev/sdb, instead
of /dev/hdb.
For more information, you can check the man pages for mount and fdisk.
% man mount
% man fdisk
Also, if you're running as root and using kde, then I believe that there's a
kde tool or utility for working with filesystems (mounting, unmounting,
adding, removing); however, I'm not sure which tool this is. I use mount
and umount.
In kde, you can create a destop icon for filesystem device and define it for
mounting and unmounting filesystems. However, this only mounts and
unmounts; although, might automatically bring up the tool for viewing, etc.
I'm not promoting kde over gnome. Haven't been using gnome, but definitely
plan to add it and begin using it soon, at least to check out both
environments. Until, then, though, I'll probably often
[newbie] Problems
I have a "freshly" installed system, so no extra software has been installed except the Mandrake 7.0 install. When I use Netscape in xwin, it will work, then suddenly will stop. I mean the page will stay on the screen but when you click on a link, nothing happens. It just stays there. Shut Netscape down, and then try to bring it back up, and nothing happens, it merely "shrugs off" the attempt. Now, if I bring up a virtual terminal and look in the .netscape directory, there is a blinking file called lock. Delete this and netscape loads fine...for a while.. Ideas, thoughts on how to clear this up? and why does X freeze all the time? it will work fine for a while, then I'll leave for work, with no apps running, 8 hours later I'll come back home and low and behold x will have frozen, pressing keys on the keyboard don't work, the mouse won't move the pointer, nothing. I have to restart the computer. Valjean
Re: [newbie] re os/2 and Beos
What I believe would make it easier to read your posts and your questions would be to cut out the HTML and images in your messages and use a bit more punctuation in your messages. Valjean On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, magick wrote: the question was simple are beos and os/2 or are they not linux/unix clones and is os/2 available for downlaod not interested in beos tried it and it wouldn't find my hardware modem only my winmodem
[newbie] Problems
Some questions, maybe you folks can help: 1. The crossover question I asked earlier...any idea? 2. I have a "freshly" installed system, so no extra software has been installed except the Mandrake 7.0 install. When I use Netscape in xwin, it will work, then suddenly will stop. I mean the page will stay on the screen but when you click on a link, nothing happens. It just stays there. Shut Netscape down, and then try to bring it back up, and nothing happens, it merely "shrugs off" the attempt. Now, if I bring up a virtual terminal and look in the .netscape directory, there is a blinking file called lock. Delete this and netscape loads fine. Ideas, thoughts? 3. I have one 8.5 gig hd and one cdrom. I want to hook up two more hard drives, copy some data from them, and then remove them from the system. How do I get Linux to recognize them so I can copy, then remove them from the system as easily? 4. One final problem: I am hooked to my campus ethernet network. While running windows, I get tremendous throughput loading pages, doing ftp, etc..now in netscape in linux, I am getting throughput no higher than 3.5k/sec and then it starts dropping, and stalls out..goes back up to 3.5/3.6 and drops slowly to 3.0, 2.9,2.8..etc then stalls out.. any ideas? Thanks Valjean
Re: [newbie] Problems
See, I've got some data on a win95 machine I want to retrieve and rather than remove the hard drives from that and connect them to my linux box, I'd like to just hook up a crossover cable betweeb the NIC in either machine and transfer the files. I have the cable, I just need to know what needs to be setup on the Win95 machine and what needs to be setup on the linux machine. (Currently the linux box is running mandrake 7.0...I am hooked to an ethernet network as well, so I would need to temporarily disable that in order to do the crossover thing, then reenable it) Valjean On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Stephen F. Bosch wrote: Valjean wrote: Some questions, maybe you folks can help: 1. The crossover question I asked earlier...any idea? Can you repeat the question? -Stephen-
Re: [newbie] Netscape files
Actually I was going to try that. I have all my windows-netscape mail files archived and was going to try and import them into linux-netscape...what about deleting the .lock or .summary files and copying my old windows-netscape mail files into the .nsmail directory. When you start up Netscape messenger in linux, it will recreate those .summary files and hopefully work...haven't tried it yet though..sound plausible? Valjean I don't think so: I was using netscape for mail in both and the windows version understands the linux mail files but not the other way around. It would try and then it would lose messages. As for the cache sharing, look at the way each is handled, to me the look totally dissimilar. Bookmarks on the other hand will probably work fine. Make a backup copy of bookmarks.htm and try linking the linux one. It might work...
[newbie] Crossover
Anyone know how to setup a crossover network between a Win95 and a Mandrake 7.0 linux box? That is, both computers have a network card and I want to connect them with a crossover cat5. Any ideas? Dave...new to the list,
Re: [newbie]
Anyone know how to setup a crossover network between a Win95 and a Mandrake 7.0 linux box? That is, both computers have a network card and I want to connect them with a crossover cat5. Any ideas? Dave...new to the list,
