Re: [newbie] Crystal Sound not working in 9.0 ?
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:07:28 +0100 Stefano Pogliani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frans, do you have any idea how could I make sound working again ? TIA Well, ideas yes, but others on the list may have better ideas, so (also) reply to the list :) /Stefano Frans Ketelaars wrote: That's because Mandrake 9.0 doesn't use native tools for ISA soundcards AFAIK. On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:29:44 +0100 Stefano Pogliani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, in the System Configurator Tool, in the Hardware List, the Sound card is not listed at all. /stefano Stefano Pogliani wrote: I have migrated from 8.2 to 9.0. It seems that my Crystal Sound card is no more recognized. I was used, to make it working, to add the following line to /etc/modules.conf: alias sound-slot-1 cs4232 The 'standard' way is 'alias sound-slot-0 ' but I doubt that's the problem. What happens if, as root, you 'modprobe cs4232'? If that doesn't work try the ALSA driver: 'modprobe snd-cs4232'. I added it, with no luck. Using sndConfig from a CTRL-ALT-F1 term, takes a long time to detect the card but, after, is unable to play any sound. Using KDE, I continue to have warnings saying that the sound is suspended. I also had messages telling me that /dev/dsp was busy and that it was going to use /dev/null. Anyone experienced the same problem? Thanks a lot indeed. Best regards /stefano HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crystal Sound not working in 9.0 ?
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:31:32 +0100 Stefano Pogliani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: modprobe cs4232 : no output If you get the prompt back I think the system loaded the driver as requested :) Check with '/sbin/lsmod'. modprobe snd-cs4232 : /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4232.o.gz: init_module: No such device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4232.o.gz failed modprobe: insmod snd-cs4232 failed Where do I find the snd-cs4232.o.gz ? Why modprobe cs4232 did not produce any message to my output? Merci /stefano Frans Ketelaars wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:07:28 +0100 Stefano Pogliani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frans, do you have any idea how could I make sound working again ? TIA Well, ideas yes, but others on the list may have better ideas, so (also) reply to the list :) REPEAT REPEAT last sentence ;) snip HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crystal Sound not working in 9.0 ?
BTW, in the System Configurator Tool, in the Hardware List, the Sound card is not listed at all. /stefano Stefano Pogliani wrote: I have migrated from 8.2 to 9.0. It seems that my Crystal Sound card is no more recognized. I was used, to make it working, to add the following line to /etc/modules.conf: alias sound-slot-1 cs4232 I added it, with no luck. Using sndConfig from a CTRL-ALT-F1 term, takes a long time to detect the card but, after, is unable to play any sound. Using KDE, I continue to have warnings saying that the sound is suspended. I also had messages telling me that /dev/dsp was busy and that it was going to use /dev/null. Anyone experienced the same problem? Thanks a lot indeed. Best regards /stefano smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] Crystal Sound not working in 9.0 ?
That's because Mandrake 9.0 doesn't use native tools for ISA soundcards AFAIK. On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:29:44 +0100 Stefano Pogliani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, in the System Configurator Tool, in the Hardware List, the Sound card is not listed at all. /stefano Stefano Pogliani wrote: I have migrated from 8.2 to 9.0. It seems that my Crystal Sound card is no more recognized. I was used, to make it working, to add the following line to /etc/modules.conf: alias sound-slot-1 cs4232 I added it, with no luck. Using sndConfig from a CTRL-ALT-F1 term, takes a long time to detect the card but, after, is unable to play any sound. Using KDE, I continue to have warnings saying that the sound is suspended. I also had messages telling me that /dev/dsp was busy and that it was going to use /dev/null. Anyone experienced the same problem? Thanks a lot indeed. Best regards /stefano HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Crystal Sound not working in 9.0 ?
I have migrated from 8.2 to 9.0. It seems that my Crystal Sound card is no more recognized. I was used, to make it working, to add the following line to /etc/modules.conf: alias sound-slot-1 cs4232 I added it, with no luck. Using sndConfig from a CTRL-ALT-F1 term, takes a long time to detect the card but, after, is unable to play any sound. Using KDE, I continue to have warnings saying that the sound is suspended. I also had messages telling me that /dev/dsp was busy and that it was going to use /dev/null. Anyone experienced the same problem? Thanks a lot indeed. Best regards /stefano smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] Crystal Sound not working in 9.0 ?
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 19:28, Stefano Pogliani wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have migrated from 8.2 to 9.0. It seems that my Crystal Sound card is no more recognized. I was used, to make it working, to add the following line to /etc/modules.conf: alias sound-slot-1 cs4232 I added it, with no luck. Using sndConfig from a CTRL-ALT-F1 term, takes a long time to detect the card but, after, is unable to play any sound. Using KDE, I continue to have warnings saying that the sound is suspended. I also had messages telling me that /dev/dsp was busy and that it was going to use /dev/null. Anyone experienced the same problem? Thanks a lot indeed. Best regards /stefano __ Have you tried physically removing the card, doing a cold shutdown, and reboot without the card, then putting the card back in to see if MDK recognizes it again? -- Tue Dec 17 21:00:00 EST 2002 9:00pm up 1 day, 1 min, 5 users, load average: 3.36, 1.70, 1.04 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Scully: You set us up. This was a trap for Mulder because he helped put you away. Well, I came here to tell you that if he dies because of what you've done, four days from now nobody will stop me from being the one that'll throw the switch and gas you out of this life for good, you son-of-a-bitch. The X-Files: Beyond the Sea Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crystal Sound not working in 9.0 ?
No, But I am not sure I would be able to do it... I am not that familiar with opening the computer. /stefano Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 19:28, Stefano Pogliani wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have migrated from 8.2 to 9.0. It seems that my Crystal Sound card is no more recognized. I was used, to make it working, to add the following line to /etc/modules.conf: alias sound-slot-1 cs4232 I added it, with no luck. Using sndConfig from a CTRL-ALT-F1 term, takes a long time to detect the card but, after, is unable to play any sound. Using KDE, I continue to have warnings saying that the sound is suspended. I also had messages telling me that /dev/dsp was busy and that it was going to use /dev/null. Anyone experienced the same problem? Thanks a lot indeed. Best regards /stefano __ Have you tried physically removing the card, doing a cold shutdown, and reboot without the card, then putting the card back in to see if MDK recognizes it again? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] Crystal Sound not working in 9.0 ?
On Tuesday 17 Dec 2002 10:13 am, Stefano Pogliani wrote: No, But I am not sure I would be able to do it... I am not that familiar with opening the computer. /stefano Couldn't be simpler. Just make sure that you earth yourself before touching anything, and earth yourself regularly while you work. You have to avoid creating a static discharge. Literally, take out the screw holding the card in place, and lift out the card - try not to touch any electronics or the connector edge while handling it. Replace it (it might be worth trying another slot if you have one free) with careful even pressure, and refit the screw. That's it. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crystal Sound not working in 9.0 ?
This is what I may do as a last resort. But, isn't this a SW problem? I mean, it was working with MDK 8.2 and is still working on dual boot with NT4. What I mean is: what is the reason for doing an HW manipulation? What could this HW manipulation change and how could it affect a positive solution of my problem? This is not at all questioning about your kind help. It is mainly for me to understand what the real problem is so that I could be prepared in the future. Thanks a lot for your patience. /stefano Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 17 Dec 2002 10:13 am, Stefano Pogliani wrote: No, But I am not sure I would be able to do it... I am not that familiar with opening the computer. /stefano Couldn't be simpler. Just make sure that you earth yourself before touching anything, and earth yourself regularly while you work. You have to avoid creating a static discharge. Literally, take out the screw holding the card in place, and lift out the card - try not to touch any electronics or the connector edge while handling it. Replace it (it might be worth trying another slot if you have one free) with careful even pressure, and refit the screw. That's it. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] Crystal Sound not working in 9.0 ?
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 21:18, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 17 Dec 2002 10:13 am, Stefano Pogliani wrote: No, But I am not sure I would be able to do it... I am not that familiar with opening the computer. /stefano Couldn't be simpler. Just make sure that you earth yourself before touching anything, and earth yourself regularly while you work. You have to avoid creating a static discharge. I generally drive a 12 meter copper pole through my spine and well into the ground water supply and base rock layer to thoroughly ground. All skin surfaces are cleaned with hydrochloric acid prior to donning anti-static-lead-coated environment suits prior to utilizing a sterilized 12v bi-directional battery powered ratcheting screwdriver, which is also grounded via a 12 meter copper pole. All surfaces of all parts are sprayed with fire-resistant foam then coated with Plasticine. After chipping out the card in question, the socket left is also coated for further protection. Literally, take out the screw holding the card in place, and lift out the card - try not to touch any electronics or the connector edge while handling it. Replace it (it might be worth trying another slot if you have one free) with careful even pressure, and refit the screw. That's it. What screw? Anne __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Tue Dec 17 21:35:00 EST 2002 9:35pm up 1 day, 36 min, 4 users, load average: 0.67, 1.37, 1.05 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn I think we are in Rats' Alley where the dead men lost their bones. -- T.S. Eliot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crystal Sound not working in 9.0 ?
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 21:40, Stefano Pogliani wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is what I may do as a last resort. But, isn't this a SW problem? I mean, it was working with MDK 8.2 and is still working on dual boot with NT4. What I mean is: what is the reason for doing an HW manipulation? What could this HW manipulation change and how could it affect a positive solution of my problem? This is not at all questioning about your kind help. It is mainly for me to understand what the real problem is so that I could be prepared in the future. Thanks a lot for your patience. /stefano If you want to dig around and try to locate all the modules that could possibly be tainted from the upgrade, by all means - this is just a simpler solution - to allow for MDK to first acknowledge the hardware's gone (physically)...then after cleanly rebooting, to use plug and pray to find the card and install the current drivers...but hey, it's just a quickie solution...I'd rather spend the 15 minutes doing that then spending the next four days banging my head against the wall trying to get it to work... -- Tue Dec 17 21:40:00 EST 2002 9:40pm up 1 day, 41 min, 4 users, load average: 0.07, 0.54, 0.76 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn The only way for a reporter to look at a politician is down. -- H.L. Mencken Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Crystal Sound not working in 9.0 ?
I get it, Stephen. I may do a try this evening. In the meantime, if someone else has a soft solution or has experienced teh same problem, I would apreciate. TIA /stefano Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 21:40, Stefano Pogliani wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is what I may do as a last resort. But, isn't this a SW problem? I mean, it was working with MDK 8.2 and is still working on dual boot with NT4. What I mean is: what is the reason for doing an HW manipulation? What could this HW manipulation change and how could it affect a positive solution of my problem? This is not at all questioning about your kind help. It is mainly for me to understand what the real problem is so that I could be prepared in the future. Thanks a lot for your patience. /stefano If you want to dig around and try to locate all the modules that could possibly be tainted from the upgrade, by all means - this is just a simpler solution - to allow for MDK to first acknowledge the hardware's gone (physically)...then after cleanly rebooting, to use plug and pray to find the card and install the current drivers...but hey, it's just a quickie solution...I'd rather spend the 15 minutes doing that then spending the next four days banging my head against the wall trying to get it to work... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [newbie] Crystal Sound not working in 9.0 ?
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 21:56, Stefano Pogliani wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I get it, Stephen. I may do a try this evening. In the meantime, if someone else has a soft solution or has experienced teh same problem, I would apreciate. TIA /stefano I'm not happy with the way that MDK deals with devices on upgrade - that's why I don't run it for my main machine. I have Crystal, but luckily mine worked well from the beginning...Mandrake didn't, but at least the sound did...video was another issue... But also, on another note, you might want to look to see if there is an updated driver for your specific card and install that mate...wouldn't hurt... -- Tue Dec 17 21:50:01 EST 2002 9:50pm up 1 day, 51 min, 4 users, load average: 0.15, 0.33, 0.55 .o0 linux user:267497 0o. |____ | kühn media australia | / \ /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | .\__/ || | | | | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kühn | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | ;/ / | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389 | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU Coralament*Best Grötens*Liebe Grüße*Best Regards*Elkorajn Salutojn Just a song before I go,Going through security To whom it may concern, I held her for so long. Traveling twice the speed of sound She finally looked at me in love, It's easy to get burned.And she was gone. When the shows were overJust a song before I go, We had to get back home,A lesson to be learned. And when we opened up the door Traveling twice the speed of sound I had to be alone. It's easy to get burned. She helped me with my suitcase, She stands before my eyes, Driving me to the airport And to the friendly skies. -- Crosby, Stills, Nash, Just a Song Before I Go Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
