Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2004 10:43 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 08:05, John Richard Smith wrote: I am coming in late here but remove supermount might be the answer, so it has always been in my systems. On some it works on others it doesn't. HTH Easyest wayI found was to # out the entries for supermount floppies and replace them with, /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 that sets up automount which does work. Neither of these suggestions work either. I # out any reference to mounting the floppy and attempted to mount manually after a reboot. Still no luck, the message is that fd0 is not a valid block device. If I look in the /dev directory, fd0 is there with me as the owner. What on earth is going on Rich Try this, in /etc/fstab :- /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto unhide,noauto,user 0 0 It will probably deliver error messages other than that the /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device. Then adjust accordingly. The only other thing I can think of is try this, in /etc/fstab :- /dev/floppy/0 /mnt/floppy auto rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,unhide,umask=0,user=rich 0 0 Or whatever your user name is. Or leave out the actual =rich out of the line. Try both ways. That is how my system writes it in /etc/mtab so that might be of assistance. I have got things working by following the lead of /etc/mtab. Apologies because I am still using 9.2 and not 10 of any version. Nothing seems to work. I copied the line from /etc/mtab into /etc/fstab and am able to mount the floppy manually from the cl. I can read the floppy but when I try to copy a file to it, it begins by asking if I want to overwrite the file with the same name; I reply yes and the copy sequence starts, puts in the new date and then stops with a 'input/output' error. The file on the floppy has a new date and a size of 0! I'm baffled. We're in the process of moving and I just don't have a lot of time to spend on this problem anymore. Rich
Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 1:41 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2004 10:43 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 08:05, John Richard Smith wrote: I am coming in late here but remove supermount might be the answer, so it has always been in my systems. On some it works on others it doesn't. HTH Easyest wayI found was to # out the entries for supermount floppies and replace them with, /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 that sets up automount which does work. Neither of these suggestions work either. I # out any reference to mounting the floppy and attempted to mount manually after a reboot. Still no luck, the message is that fd0 is not a valid block device. If I look in the /dev directory, fd0 is there with me as the owner. What on earth is going on Rich Try this, in /etc/fstab :- /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto unhide,noauto,user 0 0 It will probably deliver error messages other than that the /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device. Then adjust accordingly. The only other thing I can think of is try this, in /etc/fstab :- /dev/floppy/0 /mnt/floppy auto rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,unhid e,umask=0,user=rich 0 0 Or whatever your user name is. Or leave out the actual =rich out of the line. Try both ways. That is how my system writes it in /etc/mtab so that might be of assistance. I have got things working by following the lead of /etc/mtab. Apologies because I am still using 9.2 and not 10 of any version. Nothing seems to work. I copied the line from /etc/mtab into /etc/fstab and am able to mount the floppy manually from the cl. I can read the floppy but when I try to copy a file to it, it begins by asking if I want to overwrite the file with the same name; I reply yes and the copy sequence starts, puts in the new date and then stops with a 'input/output' error. The file on the floppy has a new date and a size of 0! I'm baffled. We're in the process of moving and I just don't have a lot of time to spend on this problem anymore. When all else fails it might be a hardware error. Try formatting a floppy on the machine, the drive might be out of alignment, and this may then allow you to write floppies on that drive. But you might not be able to use them on any others... Try swapping the drive, they're dead cheap. Might also be the controller on the Mobo, of course. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 09:34, Richard Urwin wrote: On Tuesday 18 May 2004 1:41 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 18:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2004 10:43 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 08:05, John Richard Smith wrote: I am coming in late here but remove supermount might be the answer, so it has always been in my systems. On some it works on others it doesn't. HTH Easyest wayI found was to # out the entries for supermount floppies and replace them with, /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 that sets up automount which does work. Neither of these suggestions work either. I # out any reference to mounting the floppy and attempted to mount manually after a reboot. Still no luck, the message is that fd0 is not a valid block device. If I look in the /dev directory, fd0 is there with me as the owner. What on earth is going on Rich Try this, in /etc/fstab :- /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto unhide,noauto,user 0 0 It will probably deliver error messages other than that the /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device. Then adjust accordingly. The only other thing I can think of is try this, in /etc/fstab :- /dev/floppy/0 /mnt/floppy auto rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,unhid e,umask=0,user=rich 0 0 Or whatever your user name is. Or leave out the actual =rich out of the line. Try both ways. That is how my system writes it in /etc/mtab so that might be of assistance. I have got things working by following the lead of /etc/mtab. Apologies because I am still using 9.2 and not 10 of any version. Nothing seems to work. I copied the line from /etc/mtab into /etc/fstab and am able to mount the floppy manually from the cl. I can read the floppy but when I try to copy a file to it, it begins by asking if I want to overwrite the file with the same name; I reply yes and the copy sequence starts, puts in the new date and then stops with a 'input/output' error. The file on the floppy has a new date and a size of 0! I'm baffled. We're in the process of moving and I just don't have a lot of time to spend on this problem anymore. When all else fails it might be a hardware error. Try formatting a floppy on the machine, the drive might be out of alignment, and this may then allow you to write floppies on that drive. But you might not be able to use them on any others... Try swapping the drive, they're dead cheap. Might also be the controller on the Mobo, of course. I thought of that but this problem is exactly the same on two computers, including my laptop. And the drives work OK under Windows. I attempted to copy the file to /mnt/windows/temp so that I could copy it to the floppy from there, however, I was denied permission. Attempts to change permission of the windows folder (as root) were denied. ??? I going to mail the file to my self from mdk10, reboot and pick it up in WinXP so I can get it on the floppy. Rich
Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
On Sun, 16 May 2004 07:34 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 12:38, David A. Ferguson wrote: Well I am a new user myself. So, I am not sure what all the parameters mean. But, here is a copy of my floppy fstab line and some comments. MINE none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0 YOURS none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2 ,--,umask=0,user \___/\__/ this probably lets it read DOS and Linux disks__// / this is probably your problem, the user flag turns off __/ a lot of other flags (see man mount for details) MINE ,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0 YOURS ,iocharset=iso8859-1, codepage=850 0 0 \__/ / I think this causes all writes to occure immediately. Try removing the 'user' flag and see if that works. I would guess that the sync flag would be good for floppies since you might remove a floppy while there was still some buffered data. I made my fstab lines exactly the same as yours and still no joy! This is getting serious, I can't back up anything! Rich I am coming in late here but remove supermount might be the answer, so it has always been in my systems. On some it works on others it doesn't. HTH -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- I know of no more encouraging fact than the unquestionable ability of man to elevate his life by conscious endeavor. Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Experience what others using Mandrake Linux have experienced at:- http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2004 07:34 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 12:38, David A. Ferguson wrote: Well I am a new user myself. So, I am not sure what all the parameters mean. But, here is a copy of my floppy fstab line and some comments. MINE none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0 YOURS none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2 ,--,umask=0,user \___/\__/ this probably lets it read DOS and Linux disks__// / this is probably your problem, the user flag turns off __/ a lot of other flags (see man mount for details) MINE ,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0 YOURS ,iocharset=iso8859-1, codepage=850 0 0 \__/ / I think this causes all writes to occure immediately. Try removing the 'user' flag and see if that works. I would guess that the sync flag would be good for floppies since you might remove a floppy while there was still some buffered data. I made my fstab lines exactly the same as yours and still no joy! This is getting serious, I can't back up anything! Rich I am coming in late here but remove supermount might be the answer, so it has always been in my systems. On some it works on others it doesn't. HTH Easyest wayI found was to # out the entries for supermount floppies and replace them with, /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 that sets up automount which does work. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
On Sun, 16 May 2004 10:05 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2004 07:34 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 12:38, David A. Ferguson wrote: Well I am a new user myself. So, I am not sure what all the parameters mean. But, here is a copy of my floppy fstab line and some comments. MINE none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0 YOURS none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2 ,--,umask=0,user \___/\__/ this probably lets it read DOS and Linux disks__// / this is probably your problem, the user flag turns off __/ a lot of other flags (see man mount for details) MINE ,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0 YOURS ,iocharset=iso8859-1, codepage=850 0 0 \__/ / I think this causes all writes to occure immediately. Try removing the 'user' flag and see if that works. I would guess that the sync flag would be good for floppies since you might remove a floppy while there was still some buffered data. I made my fstab lines exactly the same as yours and still no joy! This is getting serious, I can't back up anything! Rich I am coming in late here but remove supermount might be the answer, so it has always been in my systems. On some it works on others it doesn't. HTH Easyest wayI found was to # out the entries for supermount floppies and replace them with, /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 that sets up automount which does work. John Very similar without supermount, mount manually and it also works:- /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,nosuid,nodev,noauto,unhide,sync,umask=0,user 0 0 HTH -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- The pleasure we feel in music springs from the obedience which is in it. .Henry David Thoreau ___ This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Experience what others using Mandrake Linux have experienced at:- http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 08:05, John Richard Smith wrote: I am coming in late here but remove supermount might be the answer, so it has always been in my systems. On some it works on others it doesn't. HTH Easyest wayI found was to # out the entries for supermount floppies and replace them with, /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 that sets up automount which does work. Neither of these suggestions work either. I # out any reference to mounting the floppy and attempted to mount manually after a reboot. Still no luck, the message is that fd0 is not a valid block device. If I look in the /dev directory, fd0 is there with me as the owner. What on earth is going on Rich
Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
On Sun, 16 May 2004 10:43 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 08:05, John Richard Smith wrote: I am coming in late here but remove supermount might be the answer, so it has always been in my systems. On some it works on others it doesn't. HTH Easyest wayI found was to # out the entries for supermount floppies and replace them with, /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 that sets up automount which does work. Neither of these suggestions work either. I # out any reference to mounting the floppy and attempted to mount manually after a reboot. Still no luck, the message is that fd0 is not a valid block device. If I look in the /dev directory, fd0 is there with me as the owner. What on earth is going on Rich Try this, in /etc/fstab :- /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto unhide,noauto,user 0 0 It will probably deliver error messages other than that the /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device. Then adjust accordingly. The only other thing I can think of is try this, in /etc/fstab :- /dev/floppy/0 /mnt/floppy auto rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,sync,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,unhide,umask=0,user=rich 0 0 Or whatever your user name is. Or leave out the actual =rich out of the line. Try both ways. That is how my system writes it in /etc/mtab so that might be of assistance. I have got things working by following the lead of /etc/mtab. Apologies because I am still using 9.2 and not 10 of any version. Charlie. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 --- Due to circumstances beyond my control, I am master of my fate and captain of my soul. ..Ashley Brillaint ___ This email is guaranteed to be Wholly Linux Mandrake 9.2, KMail v1.5.3 and OpenOffice.org1.1.0 Experience what others using Mandrake Linux have experienced at:- http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2004-05-16 at 08:05, John Richard Smith wrote: / I am coming in late here but remove supermount might be the answer, so it has always been in my systems. On some it works on others it doesn't. HTH Easyest wayI found was to # out the entries for supermount floppies and replace them with, /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 that sets up automount which does work./ Neither of these suggestions work either. I # out any reference to mounting the floppy and attempted to mount manually after a reboot. Still no luck, the message is that fd0 is not a valid block device. If I look in the /dev directory, fd0 is there with me as the owner. What on earth is going on Rich Off hand I don't know. I suppose you do have /mnt/floppy directory in /mnt, and you went rightmouse click on desktop down to create new floppy device, and then rigntmouse clicked the new desktop icon and went to properties and selected the device from the drop down menu in properties. That is what I did. having first rebooted to establish the new device first with the new fstab entries ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re:[newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 12:34, David A. Ferguson wrote: I am unable to do anything with the floppy drive under 10CE except read it, even as root. If I attempt to copy anything to floppy I get a 'permission denied' message. Anyone have a clue as to how to get it to work Rich Is the disk write protected? What does the /etc/fstab line look like? Does it have 'rw'? David No 'rw'. And am now having the same problem with the CD-ROM drive. Here's the fstab: /dev/hda5 / ext3 noatime 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda7 /home ext3 noatime 1 2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2,--,umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=0,ro,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /usr ext3 noatime 1 2 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 Dick Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Re:[newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
From: rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 12:34, David A. Ferguson wrote: I am unable to do anything with the floppy drive under 10CE except read it, even as root. If I attempt to copy anything to floppy I get a 'permission denied' message. Anyone have a clue as to how to get it to work Rich Is the disk write protected? What does the /etc/fstab line look like? Does it have 'rw'? David No 'rw'. And am now having the same problem with the CD-ROM drive. Here's the fstab: /dev/hda5 / ext3 noatime 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/hda7 /home ext3 noatime 1 2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto umask=0,user,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,noauto,ro,exec 0 0 none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2,--,umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs umask=0,ro,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hda8 /usr ext3 noatime 1 2 /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 Dick Well I am a new user myself. So, I am not sure what all the parameters mean. But, here is a copy of my floppy fstab line and some comments. MINE none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0 YOURS none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2 ,--,umask=0,user \___/\__/ this probably lets it read DOS and Linux disks__// / this is probably your problem, the user flag turns off __/ a lot of other flags (see man mount for details) MINE ,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0 YOURS ,iocharset=iso8859-1, codepage=850 0 0 \__/ / I think this causes all writes to occure immediately. Try removing the 'user' flag and see if that works. I would guess that the sync flag would be good for floppies since you might remove a floppy while there was still some buffered data. HTH...David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: Re:[newbie] Floppy under 10CE]
On Sat, 2004-05-15 at 12:38, David A. Ferguson wrote: Well I am a new user myself. So, I am not sure what all the parameters mean. But, here is a copy of my floppy fstab line and some comments. MINE none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0 YOURS none /mnt/floppy supermount dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2 ,--,umask=0,user \___/\__/ this probably lets it read DOS and Linux disks__// / this is probably your problem, the user flag turns off __/ a lot of other flags (see man mount for details) MINE ,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,codepage=850 0 0 YOURS ,iocharset=iso8859-1, codepage=850 0 0 \__/ / I think this causes all writes to occure immediately. Try removing the 'user' flag and see if that works. I would guess that the sync flag would be good for floppies since you might remove a floppy while there was still some buffered data. I made my fstab lines exactly the same as yours and still no joy! This is getting serious, I can't back up anything! Rich
[newbie] Floppy under 10CE
I am unable to do anything with the floppy drive under 10CE except read it, even as root. If I attempt to copy anything to floppy I get a 'permission denied' message. Anyone have a clue as to how to get it to work Rich
Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am unable to do anything with the floppy drive under 10CE except read it, even as root. If I attempt to copy anything to floppy I get a 'permission denied' message. Anyone have a clue as to how to get it to work Rich Is the disk write protected? David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Floppy under 10CE
On Fri, 2004-05-14 at 12:34, David A. Ferguson wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am unable to do anything with the floppy drive under 10CE except read it, even as root. If I attempt to copy anything to floppy I get a 'permission denied' message. Anyone have a clue as to how to get it to work Rich Is the disk write protected? Nope. Rich
