Re: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-25 Thread sphilp

On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 06:45:09PM -0500, Jeanette Russo wrote:
 John Aldrich wrote:
  
  On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, you wrote:
After installation and testing at www.fortify.net (README file online),
you should consider repeating the procedure to fortify
netscape-navigator as well.
   
   Where is Netscape Navigator I didn't see that only Netscape-Communicator
   when I did Fortify?
  
  Same location, just that it's netscape-navigator, instead of
  netscape-communicator. :-)
 
 Well its not in here so I guess its not installed.  Why whould you have
 both Navigator and Communicator seems redundant?

netscape-communicator includes the mail/news and page editor. 
netscape-navigator is browser-only.

-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
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Re: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-25 Thread Rick Murphy


 Ok well I vaguely remember when picking packages that I don't think I
 installed Navigator thinking I didn't need both.

Jr.

click on your rpm button and cruise around a little and see if it is
loaded. If it is click on it and the rpm program will tell you where it  is
installed.  If it is not installed.  Stick you mandrake disk on the cd rom and
mount  it then use your rpm program to find and install it.  

Rick

-- 
"I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB



Re: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-25 Thread Hugh

Okay since I started this I must ask .Why would anyone need to install
both? I have always used one never two

Hugh



On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, you wrote:
  Ok well I vaguely remember when picking packages that I don't think I
  installed Navigator thinking I didn't need both.
 
 Jr.
 
 click on your rpm button and cruise around a little and see if it is
 loaded. If it is click on it and the rpm program will tell you where it  is
 installed.  If it is not installed.  Stick you mandrake disk on the cd rom and
 mount  it then use your rpm program to find and install it.  
 
 Rick
 
 -- 
 "I don't want to swim in a roped off sea," JB
--
Boling's postulate:
If you're feeling good, don't worry.  You'll get over it.



RE: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-25 Thread John Aldrich

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 This then begs the question, what if the host site you're visiting does
 not have that level of encryption?  What purpose does it serve then?
 
 And what if it's using a totally different encryption algorithm from
 Fortify's?
 
As I understand it, you get 128-bit encryption whether or
not you're using a 40-bit encryption server or 128-bit
encryption server.

As for the encryption algorithm, I think those are pretty
standardor else Fortify is using ALL of them. You'll
have to check out Fortify's website to get the answers. I
don't know the answers to all your questions.
John



Re: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-24 Thread Jeanette Russo

Benjamin Sher wrote:
 
 Dear Hugh:
 
 First make sure your Netscape (all windows) is CLOSED.
 
 Use the following command:
 
 tar -xzf Fortify-1.4.5-unix-x86.tar.gz
 
 Then cd to the Fortify directory (Fortify-1.4.5-unix-x86) and type as
 root:
 
 #./Fortify.sh
 
 When it asks you for the location of Netscape, do NOT say:
 /usr/bin/netscape. That's just a symbolic link.
 
 You need to write:
 
 /usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator
 
 After installation and testing at www.fortify.net (README file online),
 you should consider repeating the procedure to fortify
 netscape-navigator as well.
 
 Yours,
 
 Benjamin
 
 --
 Benjamin and Anna Sher
 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sher's Russian Web
 http://www.websher.net


Where is Netscape Navigator I didn't see that only Netscape-Communicator
when I did Fortify?
Jeanette



Re: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-24 Thread Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.

Call me lazy, but I just use the KDE archiver tool. Navigate to the file you
wish to extract, Rt-Click the file, select Archiver, then in Archiver,
File/Extract to ... Then I select the location where I want to decompress the
archive, and "OK". I don't learn as much about using tar, or gzip, but I get
the job done.

Ernie


On Sat, 23 Oct 1999,Hugh wrote:
  | Today I tried installing Fortify into netscape. But I ran into a problem
  | When I try to UN zip the file I get an alarm that says it doesn't know  -xf-
  | I'm using this command
  | gzip -dc Fortify-1.4.5-unix-x86.tar.gz | tar -xf-
  | what am I doing wrong? I'm really bad with tar files as you can see
  | 
  | Thanks for any help
  | 
  | Hugh
  | 
  | 
  | 
  | 
  | 
  | 
  | 
  | 
  | --
  | Boling's postulate:
  | If you're feeling good, don't worry.  You'll get over it.



RE: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-24 Thread Ken Wilson

Dear Folks,

Regarding Fortify.  I have the 128-bit encrypted Netscape.  The version
that requires you to swear you are a Canadian or American citizen to
download.

The bottom line is I tested it on Fortify's site.  They said the
encryption is military weapons grade and I don't need their product.
BTW, this applies to both my Windows and my Linux versions of Netscape.
So I really don't know what all the fuss is about.

Ken Wilson
First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
irrelevant
(Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')



Re: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-24 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear Jeanette and friends:

You need to fortify Netscape Communicator and Netscape Navigator
separate. After you fortify Communicator, quit Fortify, then reenter the
Fortify directory and restart it with ./Fortify.sh and this time choose
option 2 for your directory (as before) and type
/usr/lib/netscape/netscape-navigator instead of
/usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator (assuming, of course, you have
both Communicator and Navigagor installed on your system).

Benjamin
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Benjamin and Anna Sher
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net



RE: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-24 Thread Hugh

My Netscape wasn't US standard mine was international or in other words 40 bit. 
I hate our govt. policy on encryption

Hugh


On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 Dear Folks,
 
 Regarding Fortify.  I have the 128-bit encrypted Netscape.  The version
 that requires you to swear you are a Canadian or American citizen to
 download.
 
 The bottom line is I tested it on Fortify's site.  They said the
 encryption is military weapons grade and I don't need their product.
 BTW, this applies to both my Windows and my Linux versions of Netscape.
 So I really don't know what all the fuss is about.
 
 Ken Wilson
 First Law of Optimisation: The speed of a non-working program is
 irrelevant
 (Steve Heller, 'Efficient C/C++ Programming')
--
Boling's postulate:
If you're feeling good, don't worry.  You'll get over it.



Re: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-24 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 Today I tried installing Fortify into netscape. But I ran into a problem
 When I try to UN zip the file I get an alarm that says it doesn't know  -xf-
 I'm using this command
 gzip -dc Fortify-1.4.5-unix-x86.tar.gz | tar -xf-
 what am I doing wrong? I'm really bad with tar files as you can see
 
Oh, two things you'll need to keep in mind. First, give it the path
to Netscape (/usr/lib/netscape/Netscapeversion instead of
/usr/bin/netscape.) And second, when it prompts you for a yes/no, it
doesn't want just a "y" or "n" response. It wants the WHOLE word.
John



Re: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-24 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, you wrote:
  After installation and testing at www.fortify.net (README file online),
  you should consider repeating the procedure to fortify
  netscape-navigator as well.
  
 
 Where is Netscape Navigator I didn't see that only Netscape-Communicator
 when I did Fortify?
 Jeanette

Same location, just that it's netscape-navigator, instead of
netscape-communicator. :-)
John



Re: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-24 Thread John Aldrich

On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 Today I tried installing Fortify into netscape. But I ran into a problem
 When I try to UN zip the file I get an alarm that says it doesn't know  -xf-
 I'm using this command
 gzip -dc Fortify-1.4.5-unix-x86.tar.gz | tar -xf-
 what am I doing wrong? I'm really bad with tar files as you can see
 
Ok. Try it this way: "tar xzvf Fortify-1.4.5-unix-x86.tar.gz" That
pretty much does the same thing you were trying to do above, but does
it in one step, instead of two steps. It's always worked for me...
*shrug*
John



Re: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-24 Thread Jeanette Russo

John Aldrich wrote:
 
 On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, you wrote:
   After installation and testing at www.fortify.net (README file online),
   you should consider repeating the procedure to fortify
   netscape-navigator as well.
  
 
  Where is Netscape Navigator I didn't see that only Netscape-Communicator
  when I did Fortify?
  Jeanette
 
 Same location, just that it's netscape-navigator, instead of
 netscape-communicator. :-)
 John
Well its not in here so I guess its not installed.  Why whould you have
both Navigator and Communicator seems redundant?
Jeanette



RE: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-24 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 Dear Folks,
 
 Regarding Fortify.  I have the 128-bit encrypted Netscape.  The version
 that requires you to swear you are a Canadian or American citizen to
 download.
 
 The bottom line is I tested it on Fortify's site.  They said the
 encryption is military weapons grade and I don't need their product.
 BTW, this applies to both my Windows and my Linux versions of Netscape.
 So I really don't know what all the fuss is about.
 
The difference is if you go to a non-US-encryption level site, you'll
only get the lower-level encryption. With Fortify, you get 128-bit
encryption ALL the time, not just when talking to a 128-bit
encryption host.
John



Re: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-24 Thread John Aldrich

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 Well its not in here so I guess its not installed.  Why whould you have
 both Navigator and Communicator seems redundant?
 Jeanette

Well, there are times when you don't need all the communicator stuff,
but I agree...it probably is redundant. :-)
John



[newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-23 Thread Hugh

Today I tried installing Fortify into netscape. But I ran into a problem
When I try to UN zip the file I get an alarm that says it doesn't know  -xf-
I'm using this command
gzip -dc Fortify-1.4.5-unix-x86.tar.gz | tar -xf-
what am I doing wrong? I'm really bad with tar files as you can see

Thanks for any help

Hugh








--
Boling's postulate:
If you're feeling good, don't worry.  You'll get over it.



Re: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-23 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear Hugh:

First make sure your Netscape (all windows) is CLOSED.

Use the following command:

tar -xzf Fortify-1.4.5-unix-x86.tar.gz

Then cd to the Fortify directory (Fortify-1.4.5-unix-x86) and type as
root:

#./Fortify.sh

When it asks you for the location of Netscape, do NOT say:
/usr/bin/netscape. That's just a symbolic link.

You need to write:

/usr/lib/netscape/netscape-communicator

After installation and testing at www.fortify.net (README file online),
you should consider repeating the procedure to fortify
netscape-navigator as well. 

Yours,

Benjamin



-- 
Benjamin and Anna Sher
Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net



Re: [newbie] Fortify install

1999-10-23 Thread sphilp

On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 11:14:35PM -0400, Hugh wrote:
 Today I tried installing Fortify into netscape. But I ran into a problem
 When I try to UN zip the file I get an alarm that says it doesn't know  -xf-
 I'm using this command
 gzip -dc Fortify-1.4.5-unix-x86.tar.gz | tar -xf-
 what am I doing wrong? I'm really bad with tar files as you can see

Put a space between the -xf and the - so it looks like this:

gzip -dc Fortify-1.4.5-unix-x86.tar.gz | tar -xf -

the '-' at the end means "use the stuff fed to you as the file to be
untarred".
-- 
Steve Philp
Network Administrator
Advance Packaging Corporation
[EMAIL PROTECTED]