RE: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
Title: Message The only thing that would cause this, is if Linux activated UDMA/66 (or 100) on a UDMA capable drive that was only working at UDMA/33 or below under winblows. Certain drives, onceset to UDMA/66 continue to attempt to operate in this mode, even through a power off. WD Seagate have a utility to ENABLE/DISABLE this. If your motherboard is UDMA/66 capable, you might want to make SURE that you have an 80 conductor UDMA IDE cable. These are denser than the normal cable(s) running to CD-ROMS, etc. If the OS, Linux, or utility put the drive into UDMA/33/66/100 mode and you do not have a 80 conductor cable, you'll end up with a lot of errors.. -JMS -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg TaylorSent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:01 AMTo: Linux-NewbieSubject: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. Anyway, anyone else having this problem?
Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
On Wednesday 08 August 2001 2:00 am, you wrote: I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. Anyway, anyone else having this problem? I have read somewhere, but can't remember where, That if you are going to install Windows on a partition then you should format that partition with the dos version of fdisk as supplied with windows or with the disk installation floppy. I believe the linux version of fdisk formats a dos partition slightly differently. Hope this helps, Robin
Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
Last time I said this, a lot of people yelled at me, but download a utility from the drive manufacturer and do a low-level format. jim Quoting Greg Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. Anyway, anyone else having this problem? Ignorance is underrated
Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
I would suggest you get a Windows98 boot disc with fdisk and delpart First you boot form floppy, then you make delpart to loose everything on your hard drive, you use fdisk to create new partitions you reboot your machine with your floppy inside... then you format your hard drives format c:/s and you should be able to install Winblows... Once I had other problem I could not do anything with the hard drive (I was even not able to boot from floppy...)... so the only way to get hdd again working was make a clone. I asked a friend of mine to make a clone of WindowsNT using Northon Goust... and then I could insall winblows without any problem... If this doesn't work... I think you need to change your hard drive X - A - W - K - Original Message - From: Greg Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux-Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:16 AM Subject: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. Anyway, anyone else having this problem? -- Jest niezly ... i liscik napisze OnetKomunikator [ http://ok.onet.pl/instaluj.html ]
Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
Yes, if you're going to use Diskdrake to set up your HD, you CANNOT go back in and resize it with Partition Magic. They are different enough to result in mysterious data loss over a period of time and eventually, you'll end up losing everything. I had this experience over several machines and this is the response I received from Powerquest Partition Magic's tech-support. Sevatio Original Message On 8/8/01, 6:28:51 AM, Robin Ballantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux: On Wednesday 08 August 2001 2:00 am, you wrote: I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. Anyway, anyone else having this problem? I have read somewhere, but can't remember where, That if you are going to install Windows on a partition then you should format that partition with the dos version of fdisk as supplied with windows or with the disk installation floppy. I believe the linux version of fdisk formats a dos partition slightly differently. Hope this helps, Robin
Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
I'm not 100% sure I understand your problem correctly, but no where in this text do you mention running DOS fdisk command to resetup DOS partitions for windows support. I'm not that familiar with the linux form of fdisk but at least in the GUI disk convertors while they do a great job for linux partitions and may offer to set up fat 32 for dos, well it never worked for DOS for me. Try the DOS fdisk first and then format from the DOS disk as well, then give loading winders a try again. If this still doesn't work it's my opinion that you need to try the low level format or write test using the hard drive manufacturers utility. All data will be lost using any of these methods however. Don't mess with the low level format however until you have exhausted all other possibilities as it has been a subject on this list, that has in my opinion not been determined yet, whether or not it potentially can harm the drive. (I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. Anyway, anyone else having this problem?)
RE: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
This is true of any 2 partitioning programs. Always use only 1 for creating, resizing and moving. I prefer using either PM or SystemCommader, but not on the same machine. Unlike fdisk or DiskDrake PM and SC can handle all partition types. The only time I use Diskdrake is to change the file type on pre-existing Linux partitions and I never use fdisk. Charles Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sevatio Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:46 AM To: Robin Ballantine; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux Yes, if you're going to use Diskdrake to set up your HD, you CANNOT go back in and resize it with Partition Magic. They are different enough to result in mysterious data loss over a period of time and eventually, you'll end up losing everything. I had this experience over several machines and this is the response I received from Powerquest Partition Magic's tech-support. Sevatio Original Message On 8/8/01, 6:28:51 AM, Robin Ballantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux: On Wednesday 08 August 2001 2:00 am, you wrote: I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. Anyway, anyone else having this problem? I have read somewhere, but can't remember where, That if you are going to install Windows on a partition then you should format that partition with the dos version of fdisk as supplied with windows or with the disk installation floppy. I believe the linux version of fdisk formats a dos partition slightly differently. Hope this helps, Robin
Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
Dear All, I agree about using System Commander. I had my hard disk totally go bad 2 weeks ago and then put in a new one. I almost used fdisk to partition but last minute I decided to try my System Commander. It worked absolutely great. I was very impressed. I am up and running now without a problem and now I do not think I would use anything else for that job. I used fdisk before and I definitely prefer System Commander. Marcia On Wednesday 08 August 2001 13:33, Charles A Edwards wrote: This is true of any 2 partitioning programs. Always use only 1 for creating, resizing and moving. I prefer using either PM or SystemCommader, but not on the same machine. Unlike fdisk or DiskDrake PM and SC can handle all partition types. The only time I use Diskdrake is to change the file type on pre-existing Linux partitions and I never use fdisk. Charles
RE: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
It is a Great bootloader as well. It is what I use on any of my systems that have more than 2 OSes installed. It certainly simplifies the life of adding, changing and removing. Charles (-: Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. -Original Message- From: Marcia Waller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:38 PM To: Charles A Edwards; Newbie (E-mail) Subject: Re: [newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux Dear All, I agree about using System Commander. I had my hard disk totally go bad 2 weeks ago and then put in a new one. I almost used fdisk to partition but last minute I decided to try my System Commander. It worked absolutely great. I was very impressed. I am up and running now without a problem and now I do not think I would use anything else for that job. I used fdisk before and I definitely prefer System Commander. Marcia On Wednesday 08 August 2001 13:33, Charles A Edwards wrote: This is true of any 2 partitioning programs. Always use only 1 for creating, resizing and moving. I prefer using either PM or SystemCommader, but not on the same machine. Unlike fdisk or DiskDrake PM and SC can handle all partition types. The only time I use Diskdrake is to change the file type on pre-existing Linux partitions and I never use fdisk. Charles
[newbie] Hard-Drive Problems after using Linux
I'm not sure if I just have really bad luck when it comes to harddrives, but it seems that every time I install any flavor of *nix on a drive that was formerly Winblows, I can't turn around and reinstall windows on the drive again without it not working or being awfully unstable. I'm not sure why this happens, it's a pity my 20gb drive no longer wants to work. I even went as far as to go back in the installer on Redhat, get in the fdisk, and create a new empty dos partition table, saved it, then rebooted, fdisk'd off a boot floppy, created a primary partition, rebooted, formatted it, then tried the installer. It didn't make it past the system checker thing at the beginning of the installer, gave some weird errors about the drive. Anyway, anyone else having this problem?
