[newbie] Installing Java VM

2004-11-19 Thread Vegard Lundby Rekaa
I can't get sun microosystems java vm to work with my mozilla 1.6. I get
the installation to work and there are no error messages. But when I
browse the internett at java sites, it doesn't work. I've tried several
times and googled for the answer.

is there anybody out there who made java vm work?

Has: mdk 10.0, kernel 2.6.8, mozilla 1.6
Regards vegard



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Re: [newbie] Installing Java VM

2004-11-19 Thread Ron Hunter-Duvar
On November 19, 2004 13:29, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote:
 I can't get sun microosystems java vm to work with my mozilla 1.6. I get
 the installation to work and there are no error messages. But when I
 browse the internett at java sites, it doesn't work. I've tried several
 times and googled for the answer.

 is there anybody out there who made java vm work?

 Has: mdk 10.0, kernel 2.6.8, mozilla 1.6
 Regards vegard

I haven't finished installing it myself, so I can't vouch for it, but try 
Blackdown Java: http://blackdown.org/

This is a Linux port of Sun's Java tools (community source, not open source, 
unfortunately; there doesn't seem to be an open source Java that has moved 
beyond version 1.1). They currently have 1.4.2, and working on 1.5. I saw 
mention of a Mozilla plugin, but again, I haven't tried it yet. HTH

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Re: [newbie] Installing Java VM

2004-11-19 Thread Lanman
Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote:
I can't get sun microosystems java vm to work with my mozilla 1.6. I get
the installation to work and there are no error messages. But when I
browse the internett at java sites, it doesn't work. I've tried several
times and googled for the answer.
is there anybody out there who made java vm work?
Has: mdk 10.0, kernel 2.6.8, mozilla 1.6
Regards vegard
Vegard; Go to this site,
http://java.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=9719
download and install the rpm version of Java, then follow the steps at 
this page

http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.jsp#install-pkg
exactly, paying attention to the version number of Java that you have 
downloaded.

When it comes to making symbolic links for your browsers, you can follow 
the java instructions or open Konqueror and browse to the Java folder 
where the plugins are located, drag and 'link here' the plugin into your 
browser's plugin folder. If you have multiple browsers that you like to 
use, drag and link a copy of the plugin to each of the respective 
browser's plugin folder and again 'link here'.

Lanman
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Re: [newbie] Installing Java VM

2004-11-19 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 07:29, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote:
 I can't get sun microosystems java vm to work with my mozilla 1.6. I get
 the installation to work and there are no error messages. But when I
 browse the internett at java sites, it doesn't work. I've tried several
 times and googled for the answer.
 
 is there anybody out there who made java vm work?
 
 Has: mdk 10.0, kernel 2.6.8, mozilla 1.6
 Regards vegard

I did mine by hand the hard way - which I like even better than the
Kaffe version of JavaVM that comes bundled with 10.0 OE

I created a dir in /usr/src for the jre binary I got from Sun; then
edited the /etc/profiles.d/jre shell scripts to point to the new dir;
then put my plugins in their proper places
(/usr/lib/mozilla-1.6/plugins, /usr/local/firefox/plugins and so on) as
well as renamed the necessary softlinks in /usr/bin to point to the
proper binaries...works like a charm - but a bit of work...

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Re: Re: [newbie] Installing Java VM

2004-11-19 Thread Vegard Lundby Rekaa
I know this is asking alot, but could you write down in more details how
you did the prosedure you described below.  I'm not so good at this.
Anyway, thanks for the tips.

Regards Vegard

 On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 07:29, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote:
 I can't get sun microosystems java vm to work with my mozilla 1.6. I get
 the installation to work and there are no error messages. But when I
 browse the internett at java sites, it doesn't work. I've tried several
 times and googled for the answer.

 is there anybody out there who made java vm work?

 Has: mdk 10.0, kernel 2.6.8, mozilla 1.6
 Regards vegard

 I did mine by hand the hard way - which I like even better than the
 Kaffe version of JavaVM that comes bundled with 10.0 OE

 I created a dir in /usr/src for the jre binary I got from Sun; then
 edited the /etc/profiles.d/jre shell scripts to point to the new dir;
 then put my plugins in their proper places
 (/usr/lib/mozilla-1.6/plugins, /usr/local/firefox/plugins and so on) as
 well as renamed the necessary softlinks in /usr/bin to point to the
 proper binaries...works like a charm - but a bit of work...

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[Solved!! Nevermind!] Re: Re: [newbie] Installing Java VM

2004-11-19 Thread Vegard Lundby Rekaa
Sorry to bother you twice. I got java VM running. Thanks for the help!!

Best regards vegard

 I know this is asking alot, but could you write down in more details how
 you did the prosedure you described below.  I'm not so good at this.
 Anyway, thanks for the tips.

 Regards Vegard

 On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 07:29, Vegard Lundby Rekaa wrote:
 I can't get sun microosystems java vm to work with my mozilla 1.6. I
 get
 the installation to work and there are no error messages. But when I
 browse the internett at java sites, it doesn't work. I've tried several
 times and googled for the answer.

 is there anybody out there who made java vm work?

 Has: mdk 10.0, kernel 2.6.8, mozilla 1.6
 Regards vegard

 I did mine by hand the hard way - which I like even better than the
 Kaffe version of JavaVM that comes bundled with 10.0 OE

 I created a dir in /usr/src for the jre binary I got from Sun; then
 edited the /etc/profiles.d/jre shell scripts to point to the new dir;
 then put my plugins in their proper places
 (/usr/lib/mozilla-1.6/plugins, /usr/local/firefox/plugins and so on) as
 well as renamed the necessary softlinks in /usr/bin to point to the
 proper binaries...works like a charm - but a bit of work...

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 mobile: 0410-728-389
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 ---
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Re: [newbie] Installing Java

2004-05-21 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
martin brandt wrote:
I'm  running Mandrake 9.2 and im trying to install the package
j2re-1_4_2_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin from the javasun website.

I get an error when im running the rpm.
Preparing packages for installation...
j2re-1.4.2_04-fcs
error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_04/CHANGES;40ace6
   bd: cpio: mkdir failed - No such file or directory
I normally install the .bin (not .rpm.bin) Java package, so I'll just 
try some guesses.
- you are running rpm -iv as root, right?
- maybe the file was corrupt dutring download, have you tried to 
download it again?

raf

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[newbie] Installing Java

2004-05-20 Thread martin brandt
I'm  running Mandrake 9.2 and im trying to install the package
j2re-1_4_2_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin from the javasun website.

Ive followed the instructions onsite,
make the file executable (chmod a+x j2re-1_4_2_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin)

then execute it ( ./j2re-1_4_2_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin)
agreed to the disclaimer and executed the rpm created
(rpm -iv j2re-1_4_2_04-linux-i586.rpm)  

I get an error when im running the rpm.
Preparing packages for installation...
j2re-1.4.2_04-fcs
error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_04/CHANGES;40ace6
   bd: cpio: mkdir failed - No such file or directory

I have no idea what to do, and i cant see why this has happend as its a brand
new install, perhpas im missing something?


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Re: [newbie] Installing Java 1.4.2.x

2003-11-26 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Tuesday 25 November 2003 8:13 pm, Doug Roberts wrote:
snip

 If your system is like mine, and you used Mandrake's rpm, then it should
 be ready and waiting for you.

 try typing java in a console. that should show you the error message
 that

  java hands out when it doesn't get more info.

 tried that and got backbash: java: command not found
 the command java --version also returnsbash: java: command not found

One hyphen only Doug. This is what mine displays:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] nanook]$ java -version
java version 1.4.2_01
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_01-b06)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_01-b06, mixed mode)

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Re: [newbie] Installing Java 1.4.2.x

2003-11-26 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Wednesday 26 November 2003 18:01, Charlie Mahan wrote:
 Tuesday 25 November 2003 8:13 pm, Doug Roberts wrote:
 snip

  If your system is like mine, and you used Mandrake's rpm, then it should
  be ready and waiting for you.
 
  try typing java in a console. that should show you the error message
  that
 
   java hands out when it doesn't get more info.
 
  tried that and got backbash: java: command not found
  the command java --version also returnsbash: java: command not found

 One hyphen only Doug. This is what mine displays:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] nanook]$ java -version
 java version 1.4.2_01
 Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_01-b06)
 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_01-b06, mixed mode)

 Charlie
Looks like it didn't get installed, maybe it's there anyway.

Try locate java | grep /bin/ to see if it's there at all. If your'e not sure 
whether the database is uptodate do updatedb as su/root beforehand.
Use that output as your path
.
My output:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] triade]$ locate java |grep /bin/
/usr/lib/jdk-1.4.2_01/jre/bin/java
/usr/lib/jdk-1.4.2_01/jre/bin/java_vm
Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] Installing Java 1.4.2.x

2003-11-26 Thread Doug Roberts

- Original Message - 
From: Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing Java 1.4.2.x


  tried that and got backbash: java: command not found
  the command java --version also returnsbash: java: command not found

 First check your path statement with echo $PATH you should get the path
for
 yourself, and it should not contain /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/bin. If it
does,
 then something else is wrong. If it isn't, then you need to update the
path
 statement by typing export PATH=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/bin:$PATH.

 That should fix it for you.

 -- 
Thanks Rob

Looking at the PATH statement, the line  /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/bin was
not in the path..for some reason there was a /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4.2_01/bin
statement in the path. Using your explanation got me java back.

On a related topic, how does one edit the Path statement directly? I have
been through some of the man pages and the Running Linux book and have not
spotted any way to directly edit the Path statement, like editing the
autoexec.bat file in Dosor is this possible?

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Re: [newbie] Installing Java 1.4.2.x

2003-11-26 Thread Charlie Mahan
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Wednesday 26 November 2003 10:33 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 November 2003 18:01, Charlie Mahan wrote:
  Tuesday 25 November 2003 8:13 pm, Doug Roberts wrote:
  snip
 
   If your system is like mine, and you used Mandrake's rpm, then it
   should be ready and waiting for you.
  
   try typing java in a console. that should show you the error message
   that
  
java hands out when it doesn't get more info.
  
   tried that and got backbash: java: command not found
   the command java --version also returnsbash: java: command not
   found
 
  One hyphen only Doug. This is what mine displays:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] nanook]$ java -version
  java version 1.4.2_01
  Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.4.2_01-b06)
  Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2_01-b06, mixed mode)
 
  Charlie

 Looks like it didn't get installed, maybe it's there anyway.

 Try locate java | grep /bin/ to see if it's there at all. If your'e not
 sure whether the database is uptodate do updatedb as su/root beforehand.
 Use that output as your path
 .
 My output:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] triade]$ locate java |grep /bin/
 /usr/lib/jdk-1.4.2_01/jre/bin/java
 /usr/lib/jdk-1.4.2_01/jre/bin/java_vm
 Good luck,
 HarM

You missed something HarM, mine is where it belongs and works without fault or 
error. Doug's is the one not responding to the commands. I was just pointing 
out that the version flag should be preceded by only one hyphen, not two.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] nanook]$ locate java | grep /bin/
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/ControlPanel
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/java
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/java_vm
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/keytool
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/kinit
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/klist
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/ktab
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/orbd
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/policytool
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/rmid
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/rmiregistry
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/servertool
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/bin/tnameser

The difference is yours is the sdk (software development kit) version, mine is 
just the runtime environment.

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Re: [newbie] Installing Java 1.4.2.x

2003-11-26 Thread Jerry Barton
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:23:43 -0600
Doug Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 On a related topic, how does one edit the Path statement directly? I
 have been through some of the man pages and the Running Linux book and
 have not spotted any way to directly edit the Path statement, like
 editing the autoexec.bat file in Dosor is this possible?

Just add it to your path in ~/.bashrc per example...

PATH=$PATH:/usr/java/bin/:/usr/local/bin/:/usr/local/mozilla/
export PATH

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[newbie] Installing Java 1.4.2.x

2003-11-25 Thread Doug Roberts
Greetings all

What I did.
Downloaded java re 1.4.2_02 and installed the RPM in the self extracting
file. Using grpmi it seemed to install well enough into
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/bin.(Yeah I'm coming from a Win/Dos background and
did everything from the KDE desktop.)

How do I get the system to recognize that a new java is now ready and
available? I do need it for another java program I need to install on the
machine.

TIA
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Re: [newbie] Installing Java 1.4.2.x

2003-11-25 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 6:48 pm, Doug Roberts wrote:
 Greetings all

 What I did.
 Downloaded java re 1.4.2_02 and installed the RPM in the self extracting
 file. Using grpmi it seemed to install well enough into
 /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/bin.(Yeah I'm coming from a Win/Dos background and
 did everything from the KDE desktop.)

 How do I get the system to recognize that a new java is now ready and
 available? I do need it for another java program I need to install on the
 machine.

If your system is like mine, and you used Mandrake's rpm, then it should be 
ready and waiting for you.

try typing java in a console. that should show you the error message that 
java hands out when it doesn't get more info.

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Re: [newbie] Installing Java 1.4.2.x

2003-11-25 Thread Doug Roberts

- Original Message - 
From: Rob Blomquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing Java 1.4.2.x


 On Tuesday 25 November 2003 6:48 pm, Doug Roberts wrote:
  Greetings all
 
  What I did.
  Downloaded java re 1.4.2_02 and installed the RPM in the self extracting
  file. Using grpmi it seemed to install well enough into
  /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/bin.(Yeah I'm coming from a Win/Dos background
and
  did everything from the KDE desktop.)
 
  How do I get the system to recognize that a new java is now ready and
  available? I do need it for another java program I need to install on
the
  machine.

 If your system is like mine, and you used Mandrake's rpm, then it should
be
 ready and waiting for you.

 try typing java in a console. that should show you the error message
that
 java hands out when it doesn't get more info.

tried that and got backbash: java: command not found
the command java --version also returnsbash: java: command not found

Doug Roberts
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Re: [newbie] Installing Java 1.4.2.x

2003-11-25 Thread Rob Blomquist
 tried that and got backbash: java: command not found
 the command java --version also returnsbash: java: command not found

First check your path statement with echo $PATH you should get the path for 
yourself, and it should not contain /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/bin. If it does, 
then something else is wrong. If it isn't, then you need to update the path 
statement by typing export PATH=/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/bin:$PATH.

That should fix it for you.

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Re: [newbie] Installing Java...

2003-02-12 Thread Mark Weaver
Tom Brinkman wrote:

On Monday February 10 2003 09:33 am, Mark wrote:


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 Or simply 'rpm -Uvh j2re-1.4.1_01-5mdk.i586.rpm' does it all.
^^^


HI Tom,

that method has never worked for me. I don't think that package
likes me much. which is why I just started unpacking the contents
into /usr/java, and then making symlinks from /usr/java/bin to
/usr/bin.

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dunno why, it's Sun's java packaged by Mandrake to put all the files 
in the right places for any Mandrake system to find and use them. I 
can only conjecture that some of y'all have mucked around in your 
systems and they are no longer Mandrake compliant.

Tom! I'm shocked! Me? muck around in my system? why I'd never think of 
doing such a thing.  ;)

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Re: [newbie] Installing Java...

2003-02-10 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday February 9 2003 05:43 pm, John McQuillen wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 10:20, Rob Blomquist wrote:
  On Sunday 09 February 2003 01:59 pm, wrnash wrote:
   For mandrake 9.0 you can do the following
  
   After install of the bin you will need to link it to the java
   bin
  
   ln -s /usr/java/j2re1.4.1_01/bin/java /usr/bin/java
  
   Change j2re1.4.1_01 to what java you have installed.
 
  You can also just move the files over to the /usr/bin/java
  directory, as they are installed in a block, in what ever
  directory they get put. Or you can just add the new java
  directory to your path.

 Or you could do it the way it is done by default in 9.0, with the
 /etc/alternatives system...

 As root do: update-alternatives --display java

 you should get something like the following output:

 java - status is auto.
 link currently points to /usr/lib/kaffe/bin/java
 /usr/lib/kaffe/bin/java - priority 30

 to add the new java to the alternatives system do (as root):

 update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java
 /usr/java/j2re1.4.1_01/bin/java 40

 The above is one line. Then 'update-alternatives --display java'
 should give the following output:

 java - status is auto.
 link currently points to /usr/java/j2re1.4.1_01/bin/java
 /usr/lib/kaffe/bin/java - priority 30
 /usr/lib/j2re1.4.1_01/bin/java - priority 40

 man update-alternative will give you the inside scoop.

 Hope this helps

 Regards,

 John...

  Or simply 'rpm -Uvh j2re-1.4.1_01-5mdk.i586.rpm' does it all.
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Re: [newbie] Installing Java...

2003-02-10 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday February 10 2003 09:33 am, Mark wrote:
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 On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Tom Brinkman wrote:
Or simply 'rpm -Uvh j2re-1.4.1_01-5mdk.i586.rpm' does it all.
   ^^^

 HI Tom,

 that method has never worked for me. I don't think that package
 likes me much. which is why I just started unpacking the contents
 into /usr/java, and then making symlinks from /usr/java/bin to
 /usr/bin.

 - --
 Mark

Yes, I believe Anne and a few others had the same comments.  I 
dunno why, it's Sun's java packaged by Mandrake to put all the files 
in the right places for any Mandrake system to find and use them. I 
can only conjecture that some of y'all have mucked around in your 
systems and they are no longer Mandrake compliant.
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Re: [newbie] Installing Java... (fwd)

2003-02-10 Thread Mark
On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Julian Templeman wrote:

 OK... now I've got 9.0 working, time to do something with it!
 
 I need Java on here, so I've downloaded the .bin distribution from
 Sun. Since I'm still a Clueless Newbie at this stage, I want advice on
 the best place to install it... On a Windows machine I'd just install
 it any-dam-where and add the directory to the path. Is this the
 recommended way on Linux, or should the Java folder tree live
 somewhere in particular?
 
 Thanks!
 
 julian
 
 Templeman Consulting Ltd.
 London and North Wales

Hi Julian,

The attached howto should get you going in the right direction. I use Java 
on my system for program development and this is how I've installed JDK on 
my system. 

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Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2  9.0
ICQ# 27816299
Installing JDK from Sun HOWTO

Installing Java from Sun, found at http://java.sun.com is an easy
task and doesn't need to be, nor should it be seen as a terribly
hard thing to do. Here are the steps to take in order to make this
happen.



OBTAINING THE PACKAGES FOR INSTALLATION:

1. Point your browser to the URL above at the Sun site, download
   the packages you need.
a. if you're a Java developer, or a beginning Java programmer
   then all you're going to need is the JDK package.
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html
b. if you do have a need for both the JDK and JRE packages
   you can get both packages from the same place. How to accomplish
this will become self-evident once you're there and see how
things work.
c. if you don't know whether or not you need both, then it's very
   likely you don't and should just download the JDK package.

The links for downloading JDK=(SDK) or JRE are clearly marked and
easily and quickly visible. For Linux there are two types of files
you can download. Personally I feel the Linux Self extracting file
is the easiest to work with. You can also download the RPM self
extracting file if you want to install JDK/JRE via the RPM method.
However, there is a drawback to getting the RPM and doing the
install that way.

By getting the plain self-extracting package, you, the user have
total control as to where it gets installed to. When I explain
the actual installation of the package you'll see the more
clearly why this method of installation is easier and less work.
With the RPM installation you actually have to know more about what
needs to be done in order for things to work correctly.


INSTALLING THE JDK/JRE PACKAGE:

 * Ok, assuming your download completed cleanly and successfully
   its time to start the installation. There isn't anything magical
about getting this done. It's a simple and painless process. If you're
a Mandrake Linux user and you're currently running version 8.2 or
above, then it's likely you've already got a version of Java
installed on your system that comes with and installs with the 
system. This Java system will perform most things adequately enough
for small tasks. However, it is limited in scope and functionality
which is why you're probably reading this HOWTO right now. This is
not to knock Mandrake or their preparaion of the system, but
merely to mention that the Java version that ships with Mandrake
8.2 and above is limited and can't do the things that Sun's package
can and does.

NOTE: In order to know for certain what version of Java may, or 
  may not exist on your system issue this command to find out
from the system what is installed on it:

   java -version

You'll get one of three back from the system.
1. if it's a stock Mandrake install you'll see this returned
   to the terminal;

Kaffe Virtual Machine
Copyright (c) 1996-2000
Transvirtual Technologies, Inc.  All rights reserved
Engine: Just-in-time v3   Version: 1.0.6   Java Version: 1.1

(again, for RedHat machines or other distros you can
try this, but I'm not sure exactly what you'll get
returned to the terminal. If you get something similar
then the steps below will work for you as well. this 
method
has 

Re: [newbie] Installing Java...

2003-02-10 Thread Mark
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   Or simply 'rpm -Uvh j2re-1.4.1_01-5mdk.i586.rpm' does it all.
  ^^^

HI Tom,

that method has never worked for me. I don't think that package likes me 
much. which is why I just started unpacking the contents into /usr/java, 
and then making symlinks from /usr/java/bin to /usr/bin.  

- -- 
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[newbie] Installing Java...

2003-02-09 Thread Julian Templeman
OK... now I've got 9.0 working, time to do something with it!

I need Java on here, so I've downloaded the .bin distribution from
Sun. Since I'm still a Clueless Newbie at this stage, I want advice on
the best place to install it... On a Windows machine I'd just install
it any-dam-where and add the directory to the path. Is this the
recommended way on Linux, or should the Java folder tree live
somewhere in particular?

Thanks!

julian

Templeman Consulting Ltd.
London and North Wales


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Re: [newbie] Installing Java...

2003-02-09 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Sunday 09 February 2003 01:59 pm, wrnash wrote:
 For mandrake 9.0 you can do the following

 After install of the bin you will need to link it to the java bin

 ln -s /usr/java/j2re1.4.1_01/bin/java /usr/bin/java

 Change j2re1.4.1_01 to what java you have installed.

You can also just move the files over to the /usr/bin/java directory, 
as they are installed in a block, in what ever directory they get 
put. Or you can just add the new java directory to your path.

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On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux and 
lived
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Re: [newbie] Installing Java...

2003-02-09 Thread John McQuillen
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 10:20, Rob Blomquist wrote:
 On Sunday 09 February 2003 01:59 pm, wrnash wrote:
  For mandrake 9.0 you can do the following
 
  After install of the bin you will need to link it to the java bin
 
  ln -s /usr/java/j2re1.4.1_01/bin/java /usr/bin/java
 
  Change j2re1.4.1_01 to what java you have installed.
 
 You can also just move the files over to the /usr/bin/java directory, 
 as they are installed in a block, in what ever directory they get 
 put. Or you can just add the new java directory to your path.

Or you could do it the way it is done by default in 9.0, with the
/etc/alternatives system...

As root do: update-alternatives --display java

you should get something like the following output:

java - status is auto.
link currently points to /usr/lib/kaffe/bin/java
/usr/lib/kaffe/bin/java - priority 30

to add the new java to the alternatives system do (as root):

update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java
/usr/java/j2re1.4.1_01/bin/java 40

The above is one line. Then 'update-alternatives --display java' should
give the following output:

java - status is auto.
link currently points to /usr/java/j2re1.4.1_01/bin/java
/usr/lib/kaffe/bin/java - priority 30
/usr/lib/j2re1.4.1_01/bin/java - priority 40

man update-alternative will give you the inside scoop.

Hope this helps

Regards,

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[newbie] Installing Java plugin for Mozilla

2003-01-24 Thread Mark Weaver
Hi there,

I wish I had a dollar, (accounting for the current rate of inflation),
for every time I've seen this need addressed in these lists. Doesn't
anyone read the archives any more? ;)

with this thought in mind I've saved this message as a template on my
system and will send it to the list probably once a week so in case
anyone misses the post it will show up again and again and again on the
list for those poor souls that missed it the previous time it was
posted. Almost as many times as the question, where can I get the Java
plugins for Mozilla/Netscape...etc...

anyway...if you're needing the java plugin for Netscape, or Mozilla go
follow the link below and you'll be able to download and install the
java plugin. And by the way...this does not require the download and
install of Sun's JDK or JRE packages. This is a seperate browser plugin.

IMPORTANT NOTE: you Must be root user when you do this or the plugin
will NOT install.

http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048

Mark






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Re: Archives was Re: [newbie] Installing Java plugin for Mozilla

2003-01-03 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 03 Jan 2003 7:37 am, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
 Mark Weaver wrote:
  Hi there,
 
  I wish I had a dollar, (accounting for the current rate of inflation),
  for every time I've seen this need addressed in these lists. Doesn't
  anyone read the archives any more? ;)

 If there was a way to request the archives to send us information by
 email from a email query I am sure many of us would use the archives.
 Unfortunately though many of us do not have either permanent or cheap
 24/7 connections to the Internet.

 Hylton

If there were clear links to the archives and an easy way of searching them we 
would use them more.  I haven't seen the archives for months - I never see 
any link to them and can't remember the url

Anne


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Re: Archives was Re: [newbie] Installing Java plugin for Mozilla

2003-01-03 Thread James Conner
Searchable archives are here:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbier=1w=2
and here
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertr=1w=2

Jim

On Friday January 3, 2003 08:14 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 03 Jan 2003 7:37 am, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
  Mark Weaver wrote:
   Hi there,
  
   I wish I had a dollar, (accounting for the current rate of inflation),
   for every time I've seen this need addressed in these lists. Doesn't
   anyone read the archives any more? ;)
 
  If there was a way to request the archives to send us information by
  email from a email query I am sure many of us would use the archives.
  Unfortunately though many of us do not have either permanent or cheap
  24/7 connections to the Internet.
 
  Hylton

 If there were clear links to the archives and an easy way of searching them
 we would use them more.  I haven't seen the archives for months - I never
 see any link to them and can't remember the url

 Anne

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Re: Archives was Re: [newbie] Installing Java plugin for Mozilla

2003-01-03 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 03 Jan 2003 3:30 am, James Conner wrote:
 Searchable archives are here:
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbier=1w=2
 and here
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertr=1w=2

Thanks - I'll explore later today

Anne


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Re: Archives was Re: [newbie] Installing Java plugin for Mozilla

2003-01-03 Thread Todd Slater
On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 08:14:40AM +, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Friday 03 Jan 2003 7:37 am, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
  Mark Weaver wrote:
   Hi there,
  
   I wish I had a dollar, (accounting for the current rate of inflation),
   for every time I've seen this need addressed in these lists. Doesn't
   anyone read the archives any more? ;)
 
  If there was a way to request the archives to send us information by
  email from a email query I am sure many of us would use the archives.
  Unfortunately though many of us do not have either permanent or cheap
  24/7 connections to the Internet.
 
  Hylton
 
 If there were clear links to the archives and an easy way of searching them we 
 would use them more.  I haven't seen the archives for months - I never see 
 any link to them and can't remember the url
 
 Anne

If you use Mozilla or Phoenix (don't know about NS7) and haven't been
using custom keyword searching, now's the time to learn.

Just go to any site that has a search (like the newbie archives at
http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/), enter a dummy
search phrase like coffee (no quotes) and bookmark the results page.

Next, go to Bookmarks  Mangage bookmarks, and look at the properties of
the bookmark you just made. Locate the word coffee in the URL and replace
it with %s (no quotes). In the keyword field, enter a short phrase
you'll remember; I use newb.

Now when I enter newb boot hang cups in the address bar I go directly to
the results page of a Mandrake newbie search on boot hang cups.
Pretty cool!

I also have custom searches for Freshmeat.net, rpmfind.net, m-w.com,
sourceforge, amazon.com, LDP, google (web, groups, images, and news) and
a few others. Very handy for URL's I'm always forgetting/misplacing.

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Re: Archives was Re: [newbie] Installing Java plugin for Mozilla

2003-01-03 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 03 Jan 2003 1:45 pm, Todd Slater wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 08:14:40AM +, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Friday 03 Jan 2003 7:37 am, Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote:
   Mark Weaver wrote:
Hi there,
   
I wish I had a dollar, (accounting for the current rate of
inflation), for every time I've seen this need addressed in these
lists. Doesn't anyone read the archives any more? ;)
  
   If there was a way to request the archives to send us information by
   email from a email query I am sure many of us would use the archives.
   Unfortunately though many of us do not have either permanent or cheap
   24/7 connections to the Internet.
  
   Hylton
 
  If there were clear links to the archives and an easy way of searching
  them we would use them more.  I haven't seen the archives for months - I
  never see any link to them and can't remember the url
 
  Anne

 If you use Mozilla or Phoenix (don't know about NS7) and haven't been
 using custom keyword searching, now's the time to learn.

 Just go to any site that has a search (like the newbie archives at
 http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/), enter a dummy
 search phrase like coffee (no quotes) and bookmark the results page.

 Next, go to Bookmarks  Mangage bookmarks, and look at the properties of
 the bookmark you just made. Locate the word coffee in the URL and replace
 it with %s (no quotes). In the keyword field, enter a short phrase
 you'll remember; I use newb.

 Now when I enter newb boot hang cups in the address bar I go directly to
 the results page of a Mandrake newbie search on boot hang cups.
 Pretty cool!

 I also have custom searches for Freshmeat.net, rpmfind.net, m-w.com,
 sourceforge, amazon.com, LDP, google (web, groups, images, and news) and
 a few others. Very handy for URL's I'm always forgetting/misplacing.

That sounds excellent.  I'll try it.

Anne


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Re: [newbie] Installing Java plugin for Mozilla

2003-01-02 Thread Mark Weaver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 17:42, Mark Weaver wrote:


Hi there,

I wish I had a dollar, (accounting for the current rate of inflation),
for every time I've seen this need addressed in these lists. Doesn't
anyone read the archives any more? ;)

with this thought in mind I've saved this message as a template on my
system and will send it to the list probably once a week so in case
anyone misses the post it will show up again and again and again on the
list for those poor souls that missed it the previous time it was
posted. Almost as many times as the question, where can I get the Java
plugins for Mozilla/Netscape...etc...

anyway...if you're needing the java plugin for Netscape, or Mozilla go
follow the link below and you'll be able to download and install the
java plugin. And by the way...this does not require the download and
install of Sun's JDK or JRE packages. This is a seperate browser plugin.

IMPORTANT NOTE: you Must be root user when you do this or the plugin
will NOT install.

http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048




Still no joy, Netscape also refuses to recognize this version of java
and, although Mozilla an Galeon recognize the updated version, they
still crash instantly when encountering a page with an applet.

Rich


Rich,

Then it would appear that there's something wrong with your installation 
of Netscape/Mozilla, because this plugin has been working flawlessly for 
myself and others, which is why I post this message about once a week on 
the list.

Mark



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[newbie] Installing Java plugin for Mozilla

2003-01-01 Thread Mark Weaver
Hi there,

I wish I had a dollar, (accounting for the current rate of inflation),
for every time I've seen this need addressed in these lists. Doesn't
anyone read the archives any more? ;)

with this thought in mind I've saved this message as a template on my
system and will send it to the list probably once a week so in case
anyone misses the post it will show up again and again and again on the
list for those poor souls that missed it the previous time it was
posted. Almost as many times as the question, where can I get the Java
plugins for Mozilla/Netscape...etc...

anyway...if you're needing the java plugin for Netscape, or Mozilla go
follow the link below and you'll be able to download and install the
java plugin. And by the way...this does not require the download and
install of Sun's JDK or JRE packages. This is a seperate browser plugin.

IMPORTANT NOTE: you Must be root user when you do this or the plugin
will NOT install.

http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048

Mark





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Re: [newbie] Installing Java plugin for Mozilla

2003-01-01 Thread rluchor
On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 17:42, Mark Weaver wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I wish I had a dollar, (accounting for the current rate of inflation),
 for every time I've seen this need addressed in these lists. Doesn't
 anyone read the archives any more? ;)
 
 with this thought in mind I've saved this message as a template on my
 system and will send it to the list probably once a week so in case
 anyone misses the post it will show up again and again and again on the
 list for those poor souls that missed it the previous time it was
 posted. Almost as many times as the question, where can I get the Java
 plugins for Mozilla/Netscape...etc...
 
 anyway...if you're needing the java plugin for Netscape, or Mozilla go
 follow the link below and you'll be able to download and install the
 java plugin. And by the way...this does not require the download and
 install of Sun's JDK or JRE packages. This is a seperate browser plugin.
 
 IMPORTANT NOTE: you Must be root user when you do this or the plugin
 will NOT install.
 
 http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048
 

Still no joy, Netscape also refuses to recognize this version of java
and, although Mozilla an Galeon recognize the updated version, they
still crash instantly when encountering a page with an applet.

Rich

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Re: [newbie] Installing Java plugin for Mozilla

2003-01-01 Thread mike
On Wednesday 01 January 2003 06:51 pm, you wrote:
 On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 17:42, Mark Weaver wrote:
  Hi there,
 
  I wish I had a dollar, (accounting for the current rate of inflation),
  for every time I've seen this need addressed in these lists. Doesn't
  anyone read the archives any more? ;)
 
  with this thought in mind I've saved this message as a template on my
  system and will send it to the list probably once a week so in case
  anyone misses the post it will show up again and again and again on the
  list for those poor souls that missed it the previous time it was
  posted. Almost as many times as the question, where can I get the Java
  plugins for Mozilla/Netscape...etc...
 
  anyway...if you're needing the java plugin for Netscape, or Mozilla go
  follow the link below and you'll be able to download and install the
  java plugin. And by the way...this does not require the download and
  install of Sun's JDK or JRE packages. This is a seperate browser
  plugin.
 
  IMPORTANT NOTE: you Must be root user when you do this or the plugin
  will NOT install.
 
  http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048

 Still no joy, Netscape also refuses to recognize this version of java
 and, although Mozilla an Galeon recognize the updated version, they
 still crash instantly when encountering a page with an applet.

 Rich

I just installed the Java plugin and it was a lot easier than messing around 
with j2re.They install automatically.I had to run my browser as root to have 
permission to install.Then restart as user and voila you got java.

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RE: [newbie] installing java

2002-12-25 Thread Owen Berio

At 08:10 PM 12/24/2002 -0800, you wrote:
X86 / 9.0
(Dolphin) / Installation
Q
I have down loaded java
j2re-140-03 from Sun Microsystems download page. 
It now resides in /home/owen/dlsoftware. (dlsoftware is a folder I
created).
Now how do I go about installing it? 
Please explain step by step. As a newbie my skill level stopped with
pushing icon buttons. 
My end objective is to install Star Office but the installation stalls
because I lack the necessary java software. 
Owen 




Re: [newbie] installing java

2002-12-25 Thread Daryl Johnson
You can, in fact, install Star Office without Java if neccessary however... 
:o)

The Java package is pretty much self installing, from memory.  Could you post 
the name of the package you downloaded please because there are sources, 
which is done one way, and RPMs which are done another.  For example I 
downloaded the rpm.bin.

regards

Daryl

On Wednesday 25 Dec 2002 1:24 pm, Owen Berio wrote:
 At 08:10 PM 12/24/2002 -0800, you wrote:
 X86 / 9.0 (Dolphin) / Installation Q
 
 I have down loaded java  j2re-140-03 from Sun Microsystems download page.
 It now resides in /home/owen/dlsoftware. (dlsoftware is a folder I
  created). Now how do I go about installing it?
 Please explain step by step. As a newbie my skill level stopped with
 pushing icon buttons.
 My end objective is to install Star Office but the installation stalls
 because I lack the necessary java software.
 Owen

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[newbie] Installing Java plugin for Mozilla

2002-12-23 Thread Mark Weaver
Hi there,

I wish I had a dollar, (accounting for the current rate of inflation),
for every time I've seen this need addressed in these lists. Doesn't
anyone read the archives any more? ;)

with this thought in mind I've saved this message as a template on my
system and will send it to the list probably once a week so in case
anyone misses the post it will show up again and again and again on the
list for those poor souls that missed it the previous time it was
posted. Almost as many times as the question, where can I get the Java
plugins for Mozilla/Netscape...etc...

anyway...if you're needing the java plugin for Netscape, or Mozilla go
follow the link below and you'll be able to download and install the
java plugin. And by the way...this does not require the download and
install of Sun's JDK or JRE packages. This is a seperate browser plugin.

IMPORTANT NOTE: you Must be root user when you do this or the plugin
will NOT install.

http://cgi.netscape.com/cgi-bin/pi_moreinfo.cgi?PID=10048

Mark





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[newbie] Installing Java Runtime

2000-02-20 Thread Yani Dama Putera, CLP



Hi guys,

I've installed Star Office without any problems, but the 
problems is my linux does not have Java Runtime. I was download the Java 
Runtime, but i don't have any idea to installing that runtime. Can 
somebody help me ...

Thanks!!