Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
Ok if you were to get ADSL ou wouldn't get a modem each. You would get one modem (for as little as £30) for the computer that is most likely to be on for most of the time You buy 1 network card for each computer (as cheep as £10 each) making sure it works in Linux first And a cheap hub. Use the internet conection sharing wizard to tel linux yiu want to share the conection Then everyone in your house can share the ADSL conection. You can get ADSL for less than £20 per month. This is the setup I'm using here I got a Network Startup Kit for £30 which was a hub and 2 network cards. I assure it is worth it and makes life a lot easier (it also works with windows if anyone's actually silly enough to use it) I'm also sure if you search arround on ebay.co.uk you;ll find an even cheeper solution. Mike John Richard Smith wrote: Michael Lothian wrote: Yes that's true but the cost is considerably more, the quality of service improvement not that much higher, and in my case I have to buy 4 new modems just to get started. What exactly is your setup? I have 3 computer, and my wife has hers and several of my daughters each have computers that float in and out according to presence in the family.I don't propose upgrading them, but the 4 that sit at home will all need one ADSL each. I have concidered building a serverbox to link via lans to each but right now that is beyond my ability, though I don't rule it out for the future, but bear in mind I didn't even own a computer 3 years ago. I would like a server box though, would be fun to muck around with. So right now we wait until the price of these high speed internet connections are ready for the mass market. Which incidentally will be one of the key spurs to a meaningful economic recovery around the world.It's one of the key drivers that is holding the world back. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
Michael Lothian wrote: Ok if you were to get ADSL ou wouldn't get a modem each. You would get one modem (for as little as £30) for the computer that is most likely to be on for most of the time You buy 1 network card for each computer (as cheep as £10 each) making sure it works in Linux first And a cheap hub. Use the internet conection sharing wizard to tel linux yiu want to share the conection Then everyone in your house can share the ADSL conection. You can get ADSL for less than £20 per month. This is the setup I'm using here I got a Network Startup Kit for £30 which was a hub and 2 network cards. I assure it is worth it and makes life a lot easier (it also works with windows if anyone's actually silly enough to use it) I'm also sure if you search arround on ebay.co.uk you;ll find an even cheeper solution. Mike John Richard Smith wrote: Michael Lothian wrote: I have 3 computer, and my wife has hers and several of my daughters each have computers that float in and out according to presence in the family.I don't propose upgrading them, but the 4 that sit at home will all need one ADSL each. I have concidered building a serverbox to link via lans to each but right now that is beyond my ability, though I don't rule it out for the future, but bear in mind I didn't even own a computer 3 years ago. I would like a server box though, would be fun to muck around with. So right now we wait until the price of these high speed internet connections are ready for the mass market. Which incidentally will be one of the key spurs to a meaningful economic recovery around the world.It's one of the key drivers that is holding the world back. John So your modem and LAN kit all works well in Linux, Could you list the make and models etc. Or could anyone else list examples of known to work well IDSL modem, hub and satelite kits . Also, it gets a bit hot up here in summer. It must work in hostile environments , this week I had 106F to contend with though that is the exception not the rule, it's just an odd day or two in the year. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 12:00, John Richard Smith wrote: Michael Lothian wrote: Yes that's true but the cost is considerably more, the quality of service improvement not that much higher, and in my case I have to buy 4 new modems just to get started. What exactly is your setup? I have 3 computer, and my wife has hers and several of my daughters each have computers that float in and out according to presence in the family.I don't propose upgrading them, but the 4 that sit at home will all need one ADSL each. I have concidered building a serverbox to link via lans to each but right now that is beyond my ability, though I don't rule it out for the future, but bear in mind I didn't even own a computer 3 years ago. I would like a server box though, would be fun to muck around with. So right now we wait until the price of these high speed internet connections are ready for the mass market. Which incidentally will be one of the key spurs to a meaningful economic recovery around the world.It's one of the key drivers that is holding the world back. John really, making a 'server' box out of one of those you already own and have running is simpler than you might think. (you installed Linux. didn't ya?) and CHEAP! just the cost of network card for each box, and 2 cards for one box, then you share the one ADSL connection. not a connection for each computer, just one to the firewall/server, that is shared by the rest. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
Michael Lothian wrote: Yes that's true but the cost is considerably more, the quality of service improvement not that much higher, and in my case I have to buy 4 new modems just to get started. What exactly is your setup? I have 3 computer, and my wife has hers and several of my daughters each have computers that float in and out according to presence in the family.I don't propose upgrading them, but the 4 that sit at home will all need one ADSL each. I have concidered building a serverbox to link via lans to each but right now that is beyond my ability, though I don't rule it out for the future, but bear in mind I didn't even own a computer 3 years ago. I would like a server box though, would be fun to muck around with. So right now we wait until the price of these high speed internet connections are ready for the mass market. Which incidentally will be one of the key spurs to a meaningful economic recovery around the world.It's one of the key drivers that is holding the world back. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
Well I'm with freeserve and no problems here Mozilla wouldn't touch your dial up any security would go over tcp/ip and would have nothing do with the physical conection Aslo when your on the phone do you get a lot of static or noise? Also does that mean you live outside an ADSL exchange? Mike John Richard Smith wrote: Personally , I think it's mostly due to a lack of equipement to cater for demand by my ISP, , Freeserve anytime, but I have to be aware of the possibilities of problems with my end. First they blamed it on BT, said the line was faulty, so then I get BT to carry out line tests, they report a good line , no problems. Then when I report that to Freeserve they say, it's due to my modem, which in fairness was very hot due to the weather, but I still have doubts about that accusation, for one thing the fall in the quality of service predates the heatwave, plus I've now rigged a temporary 8cm case fan straight onto the chips and they are now cool enough, and still no improvement. Then it occures to me that it might be something to do with my ISP rejecting my connection due to some sort of security increase due to me installing Mozilla1.4 with all it's increase security packages.I'm not really confident about it, but I have to explore the possibility , that is all. I'm affraid there are no cheap broadband packages available to me. I shall have to put up with dialup. I can switch to another ISP, and may well do so, but I want to be sure first that it is my ISP lack of equipement to service the demand that really is the problem. I suppose it might help if I could get the computer to cough up some reason why the ISP connection fails so often. Michael Lothian wrote: Get cheep broadband ;) My exchange gets enabled on the 3rd of September and it's as cheep as freephone dial up. Going back to your question no these have nothing to do with mozilla but are far more elikely due to the heat. I'm in Edinburgh and it's still roasting here so much so that I was getting graphical errors in Windows. What isp are you with anyway and what time were you connecting at? Mike John Richard Smith wrote: I have a Tetex version of Mozilla 1.4 installed. I also installed some security packages. not sure if these are they, but included, mozilla-dom-inspector-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmime-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozillafirebird-0.6-3tex.i586.rpm mozilla-irc-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozplugger-1.3.0-1tex.i586.rpm I now have a tab called enigmail. OK so there are new security features. Question , Is it possible that any of these new security feature might cause difficulties logging on, and when on, cause the line to be dropped by my ISP. I'm not terribly convinced of this but I'm currently in discussions with my ISP because of the service I'm not getting. Now bear in mind here in Britain we are going through a heat wave right now, with daily temperatures 36-38 C or 98-100F, and indeed I'm currently struggling to keep my equipement opperational in these unusual temperatures in a room reaching this afternoon of 106F. My modem is getting hot, and I've removed the plastic casing and positioned a 8CM case fan over it to cool things down a bit. here is a typical connection script ATZ OK AT F1 V1 TERMINATION REASON.. NONE LAST TX rate N/A HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS LAST RX rate N/A HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS PROTOCOL N/A COMPRESSION. N/A Line QUALITY 255 Rx LEVEL 215 Highest Rx State 00 Highest TX State 00 EQM Sum. RBS Pattern. FF Rate Drop... FF Digital Loss None Local Rtrn Count 00 Remote Rtrn Count... 00 Flex fail OK ATM0L0 OK ATDT147008089933265 CONNECT 57600 NO CARRIER I've been ticked off by my ISP for setting my KPPP dialer speed to 115200, though I would of thought it didn't matter. So I've reset it to 57600 , for all the difference it makes. What is people's oppinion could the new Mozilla security cause my ISP to drop my line connection, and make connection difficult in the first place. What is the likelyhood of the problem being the modem, and how much of the problem is due to lousy ISP equipement facilities ? Any opinions ? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
Michael Lothian wrote: Netgear have a broadband modem / hub in one Best to use www.priceguideuk.com Reviews here but this place may not be the cheepest http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopSearch.asp?CategoryID=1ShopGroupID=12SupplierID=1 and http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/2002/q4/netgear-dg814.asp have a look arround for good deals If you go for the bundle you'll just need to buy 2 cards and 2 cat5 cables. If you find the modem/router at a cheeper price get 4 network cards and calbes. Oh yes and you may need to purchase extra splitters for each phone in your house (you can find them for as little as 99p (again look arround) You'll find that most pci network cards work in linux out the box Mike Netgear also have very good UK customer service OK so the ethernet or networks cards all work. The ADSL/modem/router, is it a serial port job? If so I guess it has it's own powersupply, or possibly they are usb devices ? Also I note Netgear do a wireless job as well, are they a NO, No ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
ed tharp wrote: On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 12:00, John Richard Smith wrote: Michael Lothian wrote: I have 3 computer, and my wife has hers and several of my daughters each have computers that float in and out according to presence in the family.I don't propose upgrading them, but the 4 that sit at home will all need one ADSL each. I have concidered building a serverbox to link via lans to each but right now that is beyond my ability, though I don't rule it out for the future, but bear in mind I didn't even own a computer 3 years ago. I would like a server box though, would be fun to muck around with. So right now we wait until the price of these high speed internet connections are ready for the mass market. Which incidentally will be one of the key spurs to a meaningful economic recovery around the world.It's one of the key drivers that is holding the world back. John really, making a 'server' box out of one of those you already own and have running is simpler than you might think. (you installed Linux. didn't ya?) and CHEAP! just the cost of network card for each box, and 2 cards for one box, then you share the one ADSL connection. not a connection for each computer, just one to the firewall/server, that is shared by the rest. How long did it take you to learn to construct a server box ed, and how difficult was the ethernet cards and getting them to work as they ought to on a lan. I've got to get some more cash together replace one of the old Int3 or K6-500 with a state of the art super duper, and use one of the old boxes to make a server box with all the firewall stull. I know it well enough really, but need a bit more time to grasp the technicallities as well as the hardware. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
Michael Lothian wrote: Well I'm with freeserve and no problems here So it could be my end. On the otherhand what phone number do you use, I have, 147008089933265 147008089916163 147008089916001 in kppp. Mozilla wouldn't touch your dial up any security would go over tcp/ip and would have nothing do with the physical conection could postfix have a bearing ? Aslo when your on the phone do you get a lot of static or noise? No, it's good and quiet , no crackles, whistles, howls, and with normal dial tone, clear as a bell. I simply don't believe the line quality is at fault, nor do BT my line provider. Also does that mean you live outside an ADSL exchange? Experience shows that ADSL lines locally are not worth the candle even if you could afford the cost.They ought to be better than they are. Don't know why. I guess usage is dependent on equipement. But no, we can obtain ADSL at a price, but the quality of improvement over the cost increase isn't worth it anyway. Mike John Richard Smith wrote: Personally , I think it's mostly due to a lack of equipement to cater for demand by my ISP, , Freeserve anytime, but I have to be aware of the possibilities of problems with my end. First they blamed it on BT, said the line was faulty, so then I get BT to carry out line tests, they report a good line , no problems. Then when I report that to Freeserve they say, it's due to my modem, which in fairness was very hot due to the weather, but I still have doubts about that accusation, for one thing the fall in the quality of service predates the heatwave, plus I've now rigged a temporary 8cm case fan straight onto the chips and they are now cool enough, and still no improvement. Then it occures to me that it might be something to do with my ISP rejecting my connection due to some sort of security increase due to me installing Mozilla1.4 with all it's increase security packages.I'm not really confident about it, but I have to explore the possibility , that is all. I'm affraid there are no cheap broadband packages available to me. I shall have to put up with dialup. I can switch to another ISP, and may well do so, but I want to be sure first that it is my ISP lack of equipement to service the demand that really is the problem. I suppose it might help if I could get the computer to cough up some reason why the ISP connection fails so often. Michael Lothian wrote: Get cheep broadband ;) My exchange gets enabled on the 3rd of September and it's as cheep as freephone dial up. Going back to your question no these have nothing to do with mozilla but are far more elikely due to the heat. I'm in Edinburgh and it's still roasting here so much so that I was getting graphical errors in Windows. What isp are you with anyway and what time were you connecting at? Mike -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
Netgear have a broadband modem / hub in one Best to use www.priceguideuk.com Reviews here but this place may not be the cheepest http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopSearch.asp?CategoryID=1ShopGroupID=12SupplierID=1 and http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/2002/q4/netgear-dg814.asp have a look arround for good deals If you go for the bundle you'll just need to buy 2 cards and 2 cat5 cables. If you find the modem/router at a cheeper price get 4 network cards and calbes. Oh yes and you may need to purchase extra splitters for each phone in your house (you can find them for as little as 99p (again look arround) You'll find that most pci network cards work in linux out the box Mike Netgear also have very good UK customer service John Richard Smith wrote: Michael Lothian wrote: Ok if you were to get ADSL ou wouldn't get a modem each. You would get one modem (for as little as £30) for the computer that is most likely to be on for most of the time You buy 1 network card for each computer (as cheep as £10 each) making sure it works in Linux first And a cheap hub. Use the internet conection sharing wizard to tel linux yiu want to share the conection Then everyone in your house can share the ADSL conection. You can get ADSL for less than £20 per month. This is the setup I'm using here I got a Network Startup Kit for £30 which was a hub and 2 network cards. I assure it is worth it and makes life a lot easier (it also works with windows if anyone's actually silly enough to use it) I'm also sure if you search arround on ebay.co.uk you;ll find an even cheeper solution. Mike John Richard Smith wrote: Michael Lothian wrote: I have 3 computer, and my wife has hers and several of my daughters each have computers that float in and out according to presence in the family.I don't propose upgrading them, but the 4 that sit at home will all need one ADSL each. I have concidered building a serverbox to link via lans to each but right now that is beyond my ability, though I don't rule it out for the future, but bear in mind I didn't even own a computer 3 years ago. I would like a server box though, would be fun to muck around with. So right now we wait until the price of these high speed internet connections are ready for the mass market. Which incidentally will be one of the key spurs to a meaningful economic recovery around the world.It's one of the key drivers that is holding the world back. John So your modem and LAN kit all works well in Linux, Could you list the make and models etc. Or could anyone else list examples of known to work well IDSL modem, hub and satelite kits . Also, it gets a bit hot up here in summer. It must work in hostile environments , this week I had 106F to contend with though that is the exception not the rule, it's just an odd day or two in the year. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
Richard Urwin wrote: On Monday 11 Aug 2003 5:00 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Michael Lothian wrote: Yes that's true but the cost is considerably more, the quality of service improvement not that much higher, and in my case I have to buy 4 new modems just to get started. What exactly is your setup? I have 3 computer, and my wife has hers and several of my daughters each have computers that float in and out according to presence in the family.I don't propose upgrading them, but the 4 that sit at home will all need one ADSL each. No. You just need one ADSL router and connect the computers to it via Ethernet. You get the bonus that all of the computers can be accessing the Internet at the same time, and Linux likes Ethernet better than ADSL modems. Added to which the router can be your firewall, giving you one place to set everything up, and nobody is going to break the security by fiddling with their computer. The one I use is http://www.solwise.co.uk/modems.htm#SAR110 (the 715 is easier to set up.) I have concidered building a serverbox to link via lans to each but right now that is beyond my ability, though I don't rule it out for the future, but bear in mind I didn't even own a computer 3 years ago. I would like a server box though, would be fun to muck around with. No need for a server box, and the LAN part is dead simple. So right now we wait until the price of these high speed internet connections are ready for the mass market. For an excellent comparative review of the various companies offering ADSL see http://www.adslguide.org.uk/ I'm with Nildram both at work (2MB) and at home (512k) and I can recommend them, not the cheapest though (£23pm with dynamic IP, £30 with static IP). All in all ADSL is more expensive than dial-up, but (in my opinion) is well worth the extra cash. A month after getting it you'll be wondering how you did without it. How long did it take you Richard, how difficult were all those ethenet cards, you hear horror stories about windblows OS's not liking ethernet cards, and my son in law found the one he bought impossible to install and get going. He was going to link his two boxes together and then gave up when nothing was easy. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 12:33, John Richard Smith wrote: Michael Lothian wrote: Netgear have a broadband modem / hub in one Best to use www.priceguideuk.com Reviews here but this place may not be the cheepest http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopSearch.asp?CategoryID=1ShopGroupID=12SupplierID=1 and http://www.adslguide.org.uk/hardware/reviews/2002/q4/netgear-dg814.asp have a look arround for good deals If you go for the bundle you'll just need to buy 2 cards and 2 cat5 cables. If you find the modem/router at a cheeper price get 4 network cards and calbes. Oh yes and you may need to purchase extra splitters for each phone in your house (you can find them for as little as 99p (again look arround) You'll find that most pci network cards work in linux out the box Mike Netgear also have very good UK customer service OK so the ethernet or networks cards all work. The ADSL/modem/router, is it a serial port job? If so I guess it has it's own powersupply, or possibly they are usb devices ? Also I note Netgear do a wireless job as well, are they a NO, No ? John the hub will have it's own power supply to plug in, and will connect to the modem and the computer with rj45 (ethernet) jacks Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
On Monday 11 Aug 2003 5:00 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: Michael Lothian wrote: Yes that's true but the cost is considerably more, the quality of service improvement not that much higher, and in my case I have to buy 4 new modems just to get started. What exactly is your setup? I have 3 computer, and my wife has hers and several of my daughters each have computers that float in and out according to presence in the family.I don't propose upgrading them, but the 4 that sit at home will all need one ADSL each. No. You just need one ADSL router and connect the computers to it via Ethernet. You get the bonus that all of the computers can be accessing the Internet at the same time, and Linux likes Ethernet better than ADSL modems. Added to which the router can be your firewall, giving you one place to set everything up, and nobody is going to break the security by fiddling with their computer. The one I use is http://www.solwise.co.uk/modems.htm#SAR110 (the 715 is easier to set up.) I have concidered building a serverbox to link via lans to each but right now that is beyond my ability, though I don't rule it out for the future, but bear in mind I didn't even own a computer 3 years ago. I would like a server box though, would be fun to muck around with. No need for a server box, and the LAN part is dead simple. So right now we wait until the price of these high speed internet connections are ready for the mass market. For an excellent comparative review of the various companies offering ADSL see http://www.adslguide.org.uk/ I'm with Nildram both at work (2MB) and at home (512k) and I can recommend them, not the cheapest though (£23pm with dynamic IP, £30 with static IP). All in all ADSL is more expensive than dial-up, but (in my opinion) is well worth the extra cash. A month after getting it you'll be wondering how you did without it. -- Richard Urwin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 15:31, John Richard Smith wrote: ed tharp wrote: On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 12:00, John Richard Smith wrote: Michael Lothian wrote: I have 3 computer, and my wife has hers and several of my daughters each have computers that float in and out according to presence in the family.I don't propose upgrading them, but the 4 that sit at home will all need one ADSL each. I have concidered building a serverbox to link via lans to each but right now that is beyond my ability, though I don't rule it out for the future, but bear in mind I didn't even own a computer 3 years ago. I would like a server box though, would be fun to muck around with. So right now we wait until the price of these high speed internet connections are ready for the mass market. Which incidentally will be one of the key spurs to a meaningful economic recovery around the world.It's one of the key drivers that is holding the world back. John really, making a 'server' box out of one of those you already own and have running is simpler than you might think. (you installed Linux. didn't ya?) and CHEAP! just the cost of network card for each box, and 2 cards for one box, then you share the one ADSL connection. not a connection for each computer, just one to the firewall/server, that is shared by the rest. How long did it take you to learn to construct a server box ed, and how difficult was the ethernet cards and getting them to work as they ought to on a lan. depends on how you define 'learn', 'server box' I guess, but since 'server box' in this case means a white computer case with 2 pci Ethernet cards and a video card, a power supply and motherboard, then I would say about as long as it took me to type it. or less time than standing in a line to pick up my computer at CompUSA would have taken. this is stuff that only fits one way. and if you allow it, the configuration is automajic also. I've got to get some more cash together replace one of the old Int3 or K6-500 with a state of the art super duper, and use one of the old boxes to make a server box with all the firewall stull. I know it well enough really, but need a bit more time to grasp the technicallities as well as the hardware. John ahhh, I would have to say, I have never 'learned' to put together a network, I just have read a bit and did it. if you can configure a modem, or install Mandrake, (and neither is no work of brain surgery, imho) then setting up a network should make you look like a wizard. Can you put a PCI card in the computer? (my bet, the problem with your relative giving up was he put the card in the only slot not to be used [the one right next to the AGP slot, since that is 'shared' with the AGP card]) I had used a celery 333, 512 megs ram, 3 3 gig hard drives (one winME,for dual booting) and it worked great as Internet connection sharing server and print server, used Squid as a cache server and the wife thought the same dialup was so much faster, since she now had a gig of online cache. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
Yes that's true but the cost is considerably more, the quality of service improvement not that much higher, and in my case I have to buy 4 new modems just to get started. What exactly is your setup? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
I have a Tetex version of Mozilla 1.4 installed. I also installed some security packages. not sure if these are they, but included, mozilla-dom-inspector-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmime-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozillafirebird-0.6-3tex.i586.rpm mozilla-irc-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozplugger-1.3.0-1tex.i586.rpm I now have a tab called enigmail. OK so there are new security features. Question , Is it possible that any of these new security feature might cause difficulties logging on, and when on, cause the line to be dropped by my ISP. I'm not terribly convinced of this but I'm currently in discussions with my ISP because of the service I'm not getting. Now bear in mind here in Britain we are going through a heat wave right now, with daily temperatures 36-38 C or 98-100F, and indeed I'm currently struggling to keep my equipement opperational in these unusual temperatures in a room reaching this afternoon of 106F. My modem is getting hot, and I've removed the plastic casing and positioned a 8CM case fan over it to cool things down a bit. here is a typical connection script ATZ OK AT F1 V1 TERMINATION REASON.. NONE LAST TX rate N/A HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS LAST RX rate N/A HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS PROTOCOL N/A COMPRESSION. N/A Line QUALITY 255 Rx LEVEL 215 Highest Rx State 00 Highest TX State 00 EQM Sum. RBS Pattern. FF Rate Drop... FF Digital Loss None Local Rtrn Count 00 Remote Rtrn Count... 00 Flex fail OK ATM0L0 OK ATDT147008089933265 CONNECT 57600 NO CARRIER I've been ticked off by my ISP for setting my KPPP dialer speed to 115200, though I would of thought it didn't matter. So I've reset it to 57600 , for all the difference it makes. What is people's oppinion could the new Mozilla security cause my ISP to drop my line connection, and make connection difficult in the first place. What is the likelyhood of the problem being the modem, and how much of the problem is due to lousy ISP equipement facilities ? Any opinions ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
Get cheep broadband ;) My exchange gets enabled on the 3rd of September and it's as cheep as freephone dial up. Going back to your question no these have nothing to do with mozilla but are far mor elikely due to the heat. I'm in Edinburgh and it's still roasting here so much so that I was getting graphical errors in Windows. What isp are you with anyway and what time were you connecting at? Mike John Richard Smith wrote: I have a Tetex version of Mozilla 1.4 installed. I also installed some security packages. not sure if these are they, but included, mozilla-dom-inspector-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmail-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozilla-enigmime-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozillafirebird-0.6-3tex.i586.rpm mozilla-irc-1.4-1mdk.i586.rpm mozplugger-1.3.0-1tex.i586.rpm I now have a tab called enigmail. OK so there are new security features. Question , Is it possible that any of these new security feature might cause difficulties logging on, and when on, cause the line to be dropped by my ISP. I'm not terribly convinced of this but I'm currently in discussions with my ISP because of the service I'm not getting. Now bear in mind here in Britain we are going through a heat wave right now, with daily temperatures 36-38 C or 98-100F, and indeed I'm currently struggling to keep my equipement opperational in these unusual temperatures in a room reaching this afternoon of 106F. My modem is getting hot, and I've removed the plastic casing and positioned a 8CM case fan over it to cool things down a bit. here is a typical connection script ATZ OK AT F1 V1 TERMINATION REASON.. NONE LAST TX rate N/A HIGHEST TX rate. 300 BPS LAST RX rate N/A HIGHEST RX rate. 300 BPS PROTOCOL N/A COMPRESSION. N/A Line QUALITY 255 Rx LEVEL 215 Highest Rx State 00 Highest TX State 00 EQM Sum. RBS Pattern. FF Rate Drop... FF Digital Loss None Local Rtrn Count 00 Remote Rtrn Count... 00 Flex fail OK ATM0L0 OK ATDT147008089933265 CONNECT 57600 NO CARRIER I've been ticked off by my ISP for setting my KPPP dialer speed to 115200, though I would of thought it didn't matter. So I've reset it to 57600 , for all the difference it makes. What is people's oppinion could the new Mozilla security cause my ISP to drop my line connection, and make connection difficult in the first place. What is the likelyhood of the problem being the modem, and how much of the problem is due to lousy ISP equipement facilities ? Any opinions ? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
Michael Lothian wrote: I use 08089916001 the 1470 makes sure you aren't withholding your number. According to Freeserve this number along with others is being withdrawn into the 1470 numbers. No only your modem driver and kppp settings (and modem cable conections) will have a bearing, everything else goes over the tcp/ip conection it makes. OK, that's eliminated that. See the seperate mail for ADSL info but remember you don't have to buy your ADSL from BT Yes that's true but the cost is considerably more, the quality of service improvement not that much higher, and in my case I have to buy 4 new modems just to get started. 147008089933265 147008089916163 147008089916001 in kppp. Say your saw the other day Stephen Kuhn's ducktape wonder bus, meet my blue phunk modem, John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] inline: dsci0021.jpgWant to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla 1.4, tetex, and security additions
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:00:00 +, John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 3 computer, and my wife has hers and several of my daughters each have computers that float in and out according to presence in the family.I don't propose upgrading them, but the 4 that sit at home will all need one ADSL each. I have concidered building a serverbox to link via lans to each but right now that is beyond my ability, though I don't rule it out for the future, but bear in mind I didn't even own a computer 3 years ago. I would like a server box though, would be fun to muck around with. There are as many solutions to this problem as there are people on this list, but for instance, I was given a P90 by a relative who'd been running Win 3.11 on it for ten years (perhaps even the same install!). I put in a spare NIC, then put IP Cop on it, and the install was easier than Mandrake. I worked out by trial and error which NIC was which, taped a hub to the side, and left it running for a couple of years. It's do-able. Richard -- Get up and turn I loose Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
