[newbie] office suites

2002-01-22 Thread maurizio . laudone

Hi guys
I was wonderingwell I'm using Linux Mandrake 8.1 on my laptop machine
with a celeron 766 and 128 megs of RAM...and I'm using KDE at the moment.I'm
pretty happy with it but I still didn't find a really satisfying office
suite.Star Office takes about 20 minutes to load...the version 5.2 has
the stupid desktop-like thingytotally useless..the version 6 seemed
a bit better but still very slow...especially when it boots in the 
beginning...openoffice
is the same stuff...but with worse fonts ..koffice is too beta..half
of the stuff doesn't work as it should and the filters are not that good
at alli tried even the hancom office suite demobut I'd rather don't
give any comment about it...i could swear.is there any really good and
fast office suite out theree?? with good filters and all the rest?? what
happened to corel wordperfect??is it still downloadabe anywhere??is the
last one I didn't try yet...but I cannot find it anywhereis it any good'???
CHeers everyone and thanks in advance
Maurizio



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Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-11-03 Thread Chip Wiegand

I use SO for my personal stuff and I use the html editor. I believe it is good
enough as is for general home use, and probably for most general business use.
My wife does occasionally have a problem with documents going between SO and M$
Office 97. SO always opens them fine, but sometimes the saved version from SO
will not open in M$Office. So far that hasn't caused any big problems, since we
have pc's with both OS's running, though Linux is our primary OS. Winblows is
primarily kept for network gaming for the kids.
chip


On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 "PSM 0x2710]" wrote:
  
  So what is the general opinion of Star Office?  Does anyone recommend it
  seriously or is there something that would do the job just as well?  Thanks all!
 
 I admire the effort put into StarOffice but I feel it is still quite
 kludgy.  At the same time, we must not forget that pgms like M$Office,
 WP, etc have gone thru' millenniums  of evolution compared to
 StarOffice.  It's biggest selling point (I know it's free) is perhaps
 its 'ability' to translate M$Office documents.  That's what I use it for
 mostly, although it has a habit of screwing up even your simplest
 formatting of Excel and Powerpoint.
 Speaking of which, what is the difference (read, fixes and improvement)
 of Sun's 5.1a over 5.1?
 
 -- 
 Ronald Yeo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: (OT) Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-25 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 Hi Matt,
 Check out greed - its quite a useful program
 http://www.public.asu.edu/~arturner/greed/ is the url and I think its on
 freshmeat as well ...
 Zak

  In response to the long downloads, which Linux download manager does
  everyone recommend?  (Go!Zilla for Windows is a great program.  Is there a
  Linux application with similar features?)
  Matt

Heck, I'll jump in.  I was pleasantly surprised to find
'gftp' that comes with Mandrake.  If you like BulletProofFTP for
Windows, Gftp is very similar.  Look under 'Gnome' (Inet) apps on
your  'K' start menu.
-- 
..  Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED]  .




Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-21 Thread Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.

Yup! My cable company has done the upgrade. The TV looks great, and
that's why they promise the 512kbps connection. They sell me a NIC card
for about $150.00, including the install and setup, then $40.00 / month
for the access fee. I guess that's not too bad. The reason I'm holding
off is to be sure that they have all the little gremlins out of their
system so I don't get bit. Also, I want to upgrade my 'puter - it's a
486 style AMD X5-133 5x86 on a 486a VIP mainboard. I think it's one of
those boards we keep getting told will give us problems (from Korea or
some such place), but it was all I could afford when I put this thing
together. I was luckey though, It has worked great for me. The only
problem I have is that all the Mandrake updates are "for a diferent
architecture" (hope I spelled that right). I think that's because
they're built for pentium systems or later, and this one definitely
ain't one 'o those.

Ernie


Jesse Royall wrote:
 
 Ernie.. watch out and make sure with those cable modems. Of course this
 is only what I have herd from my cable company and we are out in the
 middle of nowhere. On my end they only have the recieve setup - which
 means I am paying 4x for internet access just for the speed. Untill they
 upgrade the coax to the House. next the FCC has not issued a standard for
 cable modems... so what you buy now might not work when they issue a
 standard. So, I would have to rent a box till i can get my own...With
 ATT (I mean TCI Cable (I mean)) around here I hear they have good
 service. and I know someone in CA that loves it.. not only does he get
 digital cable but he has a perm. internet connection. So, wait till they
 get the bugs worked out and can actually provide a sevice. down here it
 will be awhile becuase all they offer is 115k bandwidth for individuals
 and 256k for businesses... like that will work.
 Jess
 
 On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 06:21:03 -0400 "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr."
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I can't afford that either (T1), I just heard that the cost was
  dropping, and added it in with the other ideas presented. I will most
  likely go with my local cable provider sometime in the next year.
  They charge $40.00 per month for unlimited service, and guarentee 512
  K per second. I'll have to look more closely befoer I make the move,
  but on the surface, it doesn't look too bad from here. They have
  just changed to digital from coaxial cable region wide, so I'll wait
  a while to let them iron the out wrinkles. I'm a city dweller, so my
  options are fairly broad. Like I said, I got some researching to do
  before I make any changes. Maybe you have a cable provider in your
  area who provides internet access? Could be worth the look.
 
  Ernie
 
 
  On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Joseph S. Gardner wrote:
   "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr." wrote:
  
That'l make it tough to get the stuff you want, no matter which
  way
you go. Maybe you should talk to your local phone co. and see
  what the
damage would be to go with either an ADSL, or a T1 line (I think
that's the right term). ADSL might be a bit iffy since it is not
available everywhere, but maybe the T1 line might be an option.
You could get better bandwidth than with your 33.6 modem (I
  think you
would have to replace the modem), and the line noise issue would
  be
greatly diminished if not eliminated all together. The down side
  will
be that the cost will undoubtedly be higher, and likely
  considerably
so. But it can't hurt to check. There may also be connection
  options
that I know nothing about since I have only used a modem. Maybe
someone else can pass along some suggestions as to what you might
consider as viable alternatives to a niosy phone line.
   
Ernie
   
On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Jesse Royall wrote:
 Ernest:
 the problem here is I am 90 miles from any place that would
  even resemble
 a book store or even a computer place. we do have a radio
  shack but they
 just carry DSS and Cell phones. so I had no choice... but the
  thing is I
 used Go!Zilla which allowed me to stop the download in mid
  stream and
 continue on later. so most of the time I setup Go!Zilla to
  start
 downloading from 11:00p till 7:00a and it took about 2 weeks
  to get the
 whole thing.. During the day its a pain also, becuase the
  lines and ISP
 gets congested and I have alot of line noise and can't get the
  full 33.6
 transfer during the day.

 On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 06:07:40 -0400 "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr."
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  You got that right! Neither of those suites I mentioned is
  as large as
  a CD. I'd believe the 183 Hrs., that'd be a lot to get in
  one bite,
  for sure. That's why I usually try to get my distro's on the
  CD from
  my local software store. I just picked up the Linux-Mandrake
  6.1
  (the Macmillan release [6.5??]) for $35.00 US from BestBuy.
  That's
  more than I would have to 

Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-19 Thread Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.

I can't afford that either (T1), I just heard that the cost was
dropping, and added it in with the other ideas presented. I will most
likely go with my local cable provider sometime in the next year.
They charge $40.00 per month for unlimited service, and guarentee 512
K per second. I'll have to look more closely befoer I make the move,
but on the surface, it doesn't look too bad from here. They have
just changed to digital from coaxial cable region wide, so I'll wait
a while to let them iron the out wrinkles. I'm a city dweller, so my
options are fairly broad. Like I said, I got some researching to do
before I make any changes. Maybe you have a cable provider in your
area who provides internet access? Could be worth the look.

Ernie


On Mon, 18 Oct 1999, Joseph S. Gardner wrote:
 "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr." wrote:
 
  That'l make it tough to get the stuff you want, no matter which way
  you go. Maybe you should talk to your local phone co. and see what the
  damage would be to go with either an ADSL, or a T1 line (I think
  that's the right term). ADSL might be a bit iffy since it is not
  available everywhere, but maybe the T1 line might be an option.
  You could get better bandwidth than with your 33.6 modem (I think you
  would have to replace the modem), and the line noise issue would be
  greatly diminished if not eliminated all together. The down side will
  be that the cost will undoubtedly be higher, and likely considerably
  so. But it can't hurt to check. There may also be connection options
  that I know nothing about since I have only used a modem. Maybe
  someone else can pass along some suggestions as to what you might
  consider as viable alternatives to a niosy phone line.
 
  Ernie
 
  On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Jesse Royall wrote:
   Ernest:
   the problem here is I am 90 miles from any place that would even resemble
   a book store or even a computer place. we do have a radio shack but they
   just carry DSS and Cell phones. so I had no choice... but the thing is I
   used Go!Zilla which allowed me to stop the download in mid stream and
   continue on later. so most of the time I setup Go!Zilla to start
   downloading from 11:00p till 7:00a and it took about 2 weeks to get the
   whole thing.. During the day its a pain also, becuase the lines and ISP
   gets congested and I have alot of line noise and can't get the full 33.6
   transfer during the day.
  
   On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 06:07:40 -0400 "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr."
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You got that right! Neither of those suites I mentioned is as large as
a CD. I'd believe the 183 Hrs., that'd be a lot to get in one bite,
for sure. That's why I usually try to get my distro's on the CD from
my local software store. I just picked up the Linux-Mandrake 6.1
(the Macmillan release [6.5??]) for $35.00 US from BestBuy. That's
more than I would have to pay from Mandrakesoft, but I don't have to
hold my breath waiting for the CD to be delivered, and I don't have
to tie up my phone line for all those hours (I have only one line
here, and it is shared with the household telephone). I will likely
be trying to get it installed tomorrow or the next day, if work
permitts. It'll be interesting to see if I have any of the troubles
the other guys have had getting it to work properly. The one thing I
would like to have happen, would be for Linux-Mandrake (the official
release) to be available at one of my local software stores. Maybe
for the next release, I'll get my front side ahead of my backside,
and
look on the Mandrake site for a vendor in my area. It'd be just my
luck that it's allready here, and I just don't know about it.
   
Ernie
   
   
   
On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Jesse Royall wrote:
 Ernest..

 6 hours download time is a walk in the park for 56k... try 183
hours
 that is what it took to download the .iso file for linux!
hehehe...alot
 of line noise on my end didn't help matters either!

 On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 07:32:16 -0400 "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr."
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I like it. It does the job. It is big though, and the decision on
  installing it depends on what your needs are. If you just want a
word
  processor, StarOffice is overkill, but if you need a complete
office
  suite, designed to compete with the one from Redmond, then this
baby
  is for you. It has everything you could need. Just search
  "StarOffice" in your web browser to locate the website. From
there
  you can check out the features, system requirements and even
  do a download or order the CD if you want to. Note that the
download
  is big!! Some 67Meg.!! So unless you have a cable connection, or
an
  ADSL connection, or other fast hookup, be ready to spend maybe 6
Hrs.
  on the download (with a 56K modem). On the other hand, if the
above
  is overkill for your needs, you 

Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-18 Thread Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.

That'l make it tough to get the stuff you want, no matter which way
you go. Maybe you should talk to your local phone co. and see what the
damage would be to go with either an ADSL, or a T1 line (I think
that's the right term). ADSL might be a bit iffy since it is not
available everywhere, but maybe the T1 line might be an option.
You could get better bandwidth than with your 33.6 modem (I think you
would have to replace the modem), and the line noise issue would be
greatly diminished if not eliminated all together. The down side will
be that the cost will undoubtedly be higher, and likely considerably
so. But it can't hurt to check. There may also be connection options
that I know nothing about since I have only used a modem. Maybe
someone else can pass along some suggestions as to what you might
consider as viable alternatives to a niosy phone line.

Ernie



On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Jesse Royall wrote:
 Ernest: 
 the problem here is I am 90 miles from any place that would even resemble
 a book store or even a computer place. we do have a radio shack but they
 just carry DSS and Cell phones. so I had no choice... but the thing is I
 used Go!Zilla which allowed me to stop the download in mid stream and
 continue on later. so most of the time I setup Go!Zilla to start
 downloading from 11:00p till 7:00a and it took about 2 weeks to get the
 whole thing.. During the day its a pain also, becuase the lines and ISP
 gets congested and I have alot of line noise and can't get the full 33.6
 transfer during the day.
 
 On Sun, 17 Oct 1999 06:07:40 -0400 "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr."
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  You got that right! Neither of those suites I mentioned is as large as
  a CD. I'd believe the 183 Hrs., that'd be a lot to get in one bite,
  for sure. That's why I usually try to get my distro's on the CD from
  my local software store. I just picked up the Linux-Mandrake 6.1
  (the Macmillan release [6.5??]) for $35.00 US from BestBuy. That's
  more than I would have to pay from Mandrakesoft, but I don't have to
  hold my breath waiting for the CD to be delivered, and I don't have
  to tie up my phone line for all those hours (I have only one line
  here, and it is shared with the household telephone). I will likely
  be trying to get it installed tomorrow or the next day, if work
  permitts. It'll be interesting to see if I have any of the troubles
  the other guys have had getting it to work properly. The one thing I
  would like to have happen, would be for Linux-Mandrake (the official
  release) to be available at one of my local software stores. Maybe
  for the next release, I'll get my front side ahead of my backside, 
  and
  look on the Mandrake site for a vendor in my area. It'd be just my
  luck that it's allready here, and I just don't know about it.
  
  Ernie
  
  
  
  On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Jesse Royall wrote:
   Ernest..
   
   6 hours download time is a walk in the park for 56k... try 183 
  hours
   that is what it took to download the .iso file for linux! 
  hehehe...alot
   of line noise on my end didn't help matters either!
   
   On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 07:32:16 -0400 "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr."
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I like it. It does the job. It is big though, and the decision on
installing it depends on what your needs are. If you just want a 
  word
processor, StarOffice is overkill, but if you need a complete 
  office
suite, designed to compete with the one from Redmond, then this 
  baby
is for you. It has everything you could need. Just search
"StarOffice" in your web browser to locate the website. From 
  there
you can check out the features, system requirements and even
do a download or order the CD if you want to. Note that the 
  download
is big!! Some 67Meg.!! So unless you have a cable connection, or 
  an
ADSL connection, or other fast hookup, be ready to spend maybe 6 
  Hrs.
on the download (with a 56K modem). On the other hand, if the 
  above
is overkill for your needs, you may want to try WordPerfect 8 for
Linux. This is a fine word processor, and has many bells and
whistles. Personally, I used to use the 5.1 version for DOS way 
  back
when, and I liked it a lot (showing my age here). It is not 
  nearly as
big a download as StarOffice, and will provide you with most of 
  what
you will need for home use. The only real drawback is that if you
want to use it for commercial purposes, you will have to buy the
retail version. So, if you need something for home or school use,
WordPerfect 8 is a good choice. If your need is for business
purposes, then I personally would recomend the StarOffice suit, 
  both
for it's completeness, and the fact that it is free for both 
  personal
use and commercial use. Please note that the above are my 
  personal
opinions, and I am not an authority on the subject, as I am only
mildly familiar with either one. I am still learning to use both 
  

Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-17 Thread Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.

You got that right! Neither of those suites I mentioned is as large as
a CD. I'd believe the 183 Hrs., that'd be a lot to get in one bite,
for sure. That's why I usually try to get my distro's on the CD from
my local software store. I just picked up the Linux-Mandrake 6.1
(the Macmillan release [6.5??]) for $35.00 US from BestBuy. That's
more than I would have to pay from Mandrakesoft, but I don't have to
hold my breath waiting for the CD to be delivered, and I don't have
to tie up my phone line for all those hours (I have only one line
here, and it is shared with the household telephone). I will likely
be trying to get it installed tomorrow or the next day, if work
permitts. It'll be interesting to see if I have any of the troubles
the other guys have had getting it to work properly. The one thing I
would like to have happen, would be for Linux-Mandrake (the official
release) to be available at one of my local software stores. Maybe
for the next release, I'll get my front side ahead of my backside, and
look on the Mandrake site for a vendor in my area. It'd be just my
luck that it's allready here, and I just don't know about it.

Ernie



On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Jesse Royall wrote:
 Ernest..
 
 6 hours download time is a walk in the park for 56k... try 183 hours
 that is what it took to download the .iso file for linux! hehehe...alot
 of line noise on my end didn't help matters either!
 
 On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 07:32:16 -0400 "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr."
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I like it. It does the job. It is big though, and the decision on
  installing it depends on what your needs are. If you just want a word
  processor, StarOffice is overkill, but if you need a complete office
  suite, designed to compete with the one from Redmond, then this baby
  is for you. It has everything you could need. Just search
  "StarOffice" in your web browser to locate the website. From there
  you can check out the features, system requirements and even
  do a download or order the CD if you want to. Note that the download
  is big!! Some 67Meg.!! So unless you have a cable connection, or an
  ADSL connection, or other fast hookup, be ready to spend maybe 6 Hrs.
  on the download (with a 56K modem). On the other hand, if the above
  is overkill for your needs, you may want to try WordPerfect 8 for
  Linux. This is a fine word processor, and has many bells and
  whistles. Personally, I used to use the 5.1 version for DOS way back
  when, and I liked it a lot (showing my age here). It is not nearly as
  big a download as StarOffice, and will provide you with most of what
  you will need for home use. The only real drawback is that if you
  want to use it for commercial purposes, you will have to buy the
  retail version. So, if you need something for home or school use,
  WordPerfect 8 is a good choice. If your need is for business
  purposes, then I personally would recomend the StarOffice suit, both
  for it's completeness, and the fact that it is free for both personal
  use and commercial use. Please note that the above are my personal
  opinions, and I am not an authority on the subject, as I am only
  mildly familiar with either one. I am still learning to use both of
  them (WordPerfect 8 is easier for me because of my familiarity with
  v5.1). I do hope that this is of some small assistance,
  
  Ernie
  
 
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Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-17 Thread John Aldrich

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, you wrote:
 So what is the general opinion of Star Office?  Does anyone recommend it
 seriously or is there something that would do the job just as well?  Thanks all!
 
Word Perfect office suite is coming out in Feb. 
John



Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-17 Thread Jeanette Russo

I guess I am lucky here Micro-center had the Official Mandrake Power
Pack as well as the Macmillan clone.
Jeanette



On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote:
 You got that right! Neither of those suites I mentioned is as large as
 a CD. I'd believe the 183 Hrs., that'd be a lot to get in one bite,
 for sure. That's why I usually try to get my distro's on the CD from
 my local software store. I just picked up the Linux-Mandrake 6.1
 (the Macmillan release [6.5??]) for $35.00 US from BestBuy. That's
 more than I would have to pay from Mandrakesoft, but I don't have to
 hold my breath waiting for the CD to be delivered, and I don't have
 to tie up my phone line for all those hours (I have only one line
 here, and it is shared with the household telephone). I will likely
 be trying to get it installed tomorrow or the next day, if work
 permitts. It'll be interesting to see if I have any of the troubles
 the other guys have had getting it to work properly. The one thing I
 would like to have happen, would be for Linux-Mandrake (the official
 release) to be available at one of my local software stores. Maybe
 for the next release, I'll get my front side ahead of my backside, and
 look on the Mandrake site for a vendor in my area. It'd be just my
 luck that it's allready here, and I just don't know about it.
 
 Ernie
 
  



(OT) Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-17 Thread M Thompson

In response to the long downloads, which Linux download manager does 
everyone recommend?  (Go!Zilla for Windows is a great program.  Is there a 
Linux application with similar features?)

Thanks,
Matt

6 hours download time is a walk in the park for 56k... try 183 hours
that is what it took to download the .iso file for linux! hehehe...alot
of line noise on my end didn't help matters either!

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Re: (OT) Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-17 Thread Civileme

wget on your system now, with some mighty nice frontends available from
linuxberg or freshmeat

but


the BEST I have found

http://www.krasu.ru/soft/chuchelo/

Documentation is about 1 line long, and it is all you need.

Civileme

M Thompson wrote:

 In response to the long downloads, which Linux download manager does
 everyone recommend?  (Go!Zilla for Windows is a great program.  Is there a
 Linux application with similar features?)

 Thanks,
 Matt

 6 hours download time is a walk in the park for 56k... try 183 hours
 that is what it took to download the .iso file for linux! hehehe...alot
 of line noise on my end didn't help matters either!

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Re: (OT) Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-17 Thread Lyndon Lininger Sr.

caitoo
- Original Message -
From: M Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 3:23 PM
Subject: (OT) Re: [newbie] Office Suites


 In response to the long downloads, which Linux download manager does
 everyone recommend?  (Go!Zilla for Windows is a great program.  Is there a
 Linux application with similar features?)

 Thanks,
 Matt

 6 hours download time is a walk in the park for 56k... try 183 hours
 that is what it took to download the .iso file for linux! hehehe...alot
 of line noise on my end didn't help matters either!

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Re: (OT) Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-17 Thread TRBishop


- Original Message -
From: M Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 3:23 PM
Subject: (OT) Re: [newbie] Office Suites


 In response to the long downloads, which Linux download manager does
 everyone recommend?  (Go!Zilla for Windows is a great program.  Is there a
 Linux application with similar features?)

 Thanks,
 Matt

 6 hours download time is a walk in the park for 56k... try 183 hours
 that is what it took to download the .iso file for linux! hehehe...alot
 of line noise on my end didn't help matters either!

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caitoo  Only looked at it briefly, don't use it, though. I believe there are
other(s)?  Tom



Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-16 Thread Jeanette Russo

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, PSM 0x2710] wrote:
 So what is the general opinion of Star Office?  Does anyone recommend it
 seriously or is there something that would do the job just as well?  Thanks all!
 
  --
 
 Seth Gibson
 www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710
 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction)
 To paraphrase my friend stephen:
 "life can be like ifs. . .random garbare goes in and beautiful things come
 out."

IMHO Start Office is great esp. the new version from Sun 5.1a.  The
problem I have with it is the PostScript printing.  I can get decent
output from Word Perfect but most of these home printers don't seem to
work well with Star Office.  But the programs themselves are good but a
bit slow.  They also need a lot of memory.   Maybe the KOffice suite
and Corel Suite may be better when they come out but for now Star
Office is good.
Jeanettte



Re: [[newbie] Office Suites]

1999-10-16 Thread Michael Scottaline

"PSM 0x2710]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So what is the general opinion of Star Office?  Does anyone recommend it
 seriously or is there something that would do the job just as well?  Thanks
all!
 
===
Almost a year ago I downloaded the Win version of SO 5.0, knowing I'd soon be
trying linux.  I now run 5.0 on my linux box and find it paticularly useful
when dealing with others from the M$ worl using office.  Student e-mail eassys
to me as Word attachments.  From my linux box, I open the essay in SO, make my
comments in red, save as Word 97 doc, e-mail back as attachment. No problemo. 
I find PowerPoint easier to use than SO presentation program, but other than
that, I find SO equally competent.  Keep in mind it is a hog, so have plenty
of RAM or it'll really drag (I use 96 meg).
HTH,
Mike

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Re: [Re: [newbie] Office Suites]

1999-10-16 Thread Michael Scottaline

Civileme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well well well, when I need to hire someone to open a can of worms, I know
where to
 look.
 
 As with all things, it depends on what you want to use it for.
 
 My point of view?
 
 As a system administrator migrating people from Windows and ClarisWorks and
 Microsoft Office, I GOTTA HAVE IT.  And I hope we see 5.2 with Office 2000
filters
 REALLY SOON or we may need to brand Sun Microsystems dumber than they look.
 StarOffice won't even do the job of poisoning Office sales if it does not
achieve
 parity with files quickly.
 

Big Snip (read the original, it's worth it!)

No flame here; just my thanks for sharing your insights with us!  I haven't
tried most of these, but I have tried and used SO, Maxwell, and Applixware,
and your comments seemed most appropriate to this newbie.
Thanks,
Mike Scottaline


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Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-16 Thread R_Yeo

"PSM 0x2710]" wrote:
 
 So what is the general opinion of Star Office?  Does anyone recommend it
 seriously or is there something that would do the job just as well?  Thanks all!

I admire the effort put into StarOffice but I feel it is still quite
kludgy.  At the same time, we must not forget that pgms like M$Office,
WP, etc have gone thru' millenniums  of evolution compared to
StarOffice.  It's biggest selling point (I know it's free) is perhaps
its 'ability' to translate M$Office documents.  That's what I use it for
mostly, although it has a habit of screwing up even your simplest
formatting of Excel and Powerpoint.
Speaking of which, what is the difference (read, fixes and improvement)
of Sun's 5.1a over 5.1?

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Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-16 Thread Ernest N. Wilcox Jr.

I like it. It does the job. It is big though, and the decision on
installing it depends on what your needs are. If you just want a word
processor, StarOffice is overkill, but if you need a complete office
suite, designed to compete with the one from Redmond, then this baby
is for you. It has everything you could need. Just search
"StarOffice" in your web browser to locate the website. From there
you can check out the features, system requirements and even
do a download or order the CD if you want to. Note that the download
is big!! Some 67Meg.!! So unless you have a cable connection, or an
ADSL connection, or other fast hookup, be ready to spend maybe 6 Hrs.
on the download (with a 56K modem). On the other hand, if the above
is overkill for your needs, you may want to try WordPerfect 8 for
Linux. This is a fine word processor, and has many bells and
whistles. Personally, I used to use the 5.1 version for DOS way back
when, and I liked it a lot (showing my age here). It is not nearly as
big a download as StarOffice, and will provide you with most of what
you will need for home use. The only real drawback is that if you
want to use it for commercial purposes, you will have to buy the
retail version. So, if you need something for home or school use,
WordPerfect 8 is a good choice. If your need is for business
purposes, then I personally would recomend the StarOffice suit, both
for it's completeness, and the fact that it is free for both personal
use and commercial use. Please note that the above are my personal
opinions, and I am not an authority on the subject, as I am only
mildly familiar with either one. I am still learning to use both of
them (WordPerfect 8 is easier for me because of my familiarity with
v5.1). I do hope that this is of some small assistance,

Ernie



On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, PSM 0x2710] wrote:
 So what is the general opinion of Star Office?  Does anyone recommend it
 seriously or is there something that would do the job just as well?  Thanks all!
 
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Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-16 Thread Sean King

"PSM 0x2710]" wrote:
 
 So what is the general opinion of Star Office?  Does anyone recommend it
 seriously or is there something that would do the job just as well?  Thanks all!
 
  --
 
 Seth Gibson
 www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710
 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction)
 To paraphrase my friend stephen:
 "life can be like ifs. . .random garbare goes in and beautiful things come
 out."


I think that StarOffice5.1 is a great program.  You can save files as
word97 file or a starOffice file.  The only problem that I have with
starOffice is the amount of memory that it can take up.  It is all
around great.  It also comes with a version of Excel and PowerPoint that
you can open and save files as the word versions.  The best part of all
of this is StarOffice is free.  I use it instead of that damn
office2000.  I have a copy 2000 it and I will not install it because of
StarOffice. 

Sean



Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-16 Thread Jesse Royall

Ernest..

6 hours download time is a walk in the park for 56k... try 183 hours
that is what it took to download the .iso file for linux! hehehe...alot
of line noise on my end didn't help matters either!

On Sat, 16 Oct 1999 07:32:16 -0400 "Ernest N. Wilcox Jr."
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I like it. It does the job. It is big though, and the decision on
 installing it depends on what your needs are. If you just want a word
 processor, StarOffice is overkill, but if you need a complete office
 suite, designed to compete with the one from Redmond, then this baby
 is for you. It has everything you could need. Just search
 "StarOffice" in your web browser to locate the website. From there
 you can check out the features, system requirements and even
 do a download or order the CD if you want to. Note that the download
 is big!! Some 67Meg.!! So unless you have a cable connection, or an
 ADSL connection, or other fast hookup, be ready to spend maybe 6 Hrs.
 on the download (with a 56K modem). On the other hand, if the above
 is overkill for your needs, you may want to try WordPerfect 8 for
 Linux. This is a fine word processor, and has many bells and
 whistles. Personally, I used to use the 5.1 version for DOS way back
 when, and I liked it a lot (showing my age here). It is not nearly as
 big a download as StarOffice, and will provide you with most of what
 you will need for home use. The only real drawback is that if you
 want to use it for commercial purposes, you will have to buy the
 retail version. So, if you need something for home or school use,
 WordPerfect 8 is a good choice. If your need is for business
 purposes, then I personally would recomend the StarOffice suit, both
 for it's completeness, and the fact that it is free for both personal
 use and commercial use. Please note that the above are my personal
 opinions, and I am not an authority on the subject, as I am only
 mildly familiar with either one. I am still learning to use both of
 them (WordPerfect 8 is easier for me because of my familiarity with
 v5.1). I do hope that this is of some small assistance,
 
 Ernie
 

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Re: [newbie] Office Suites

1999-10-15 Thread Guillermo Belli

It works fine for me.

El vie, 15 oct 1999, escribiste:
 So what is the general opinion of Star Office?  Does anyone recommend it
 seriously or is there something that would do the job just as well?  Thanks all!
 
  --
 
 Seth Gibson
 www.mp3.com/PSM0x2710
 members.tripod.com/cybernetic_thunder (Under Construction)
 To paraphrase my friend stephen:
 "life can be like ifs. . .random garbare goes in and beautiful things come
 out."