Re: [newbie] Parental Control

[Rial Juan]

Hmm. just adding my two cents:

I've been watching porn since I was like... uhhm... 6 or so. Ok, at that age I
didn't understand what it was all about, except that married people did those
kind of things, but anyway... It hasn't made me a less responsible, or more
perverted human being. As a matter of fact, I kind of dislike porn nowadays,
since I regard most of it as cheap filth. Some porn goes beyond the average "get
two ugly people in bed and film the action as explicitly as possible" style that
governs the market, but that kind of "quality porn" is scarce.

But anyway, porn right now can't really attract my attention anymore, and I
usually even change the channel when yet another stupid cheap erotic movie is
playing. Not to say I don't enjoy sex, but just not all the cheap rubbish they
show on TV, or what's to be found on all major XXX-sites.

Of course I can only speak for myself, but I regard myself as the living proof
that watching porn doesn't make you a pervert. So why bother about your kiddies
becoming perverts just 'coz they watch porn on the web? Ok, at first they'll be
very interrested, they'll download tons of pics and movies, even print some out,
share with their friends, and probably play with themselves while watching it.
So what? It's just a stage they have to pass trough, and we all know that kids
in their puberty find their way to porn one way or another anyway, or do you
think my parents realized how much of that shit I have looked at in my life?

But ask yourselves this question: what do you prefer? A 13-year old kid that
watches tons of porn, and experiments with himself while watching it, only to
realise when he matures that it's actually cheap rubbish, and then when he's
passed that stage can enjoy a normal healthy sex-life with his partner of
choice, or do you prefer creating a human being that will engage in a
relationship so insecure about intimity because he's always regarded it as
something of a taboo, and even something evil? Probably even an individual who's
been so frustrated all of his life because he always heard stuff about it, but
never really knew what it was all about. This individual will never enjoy sex in
his whole life. Oh yes, he'll _have_ sex, but he won't _enjoy_ it, odds are he
won't be able to keep a decent relationship for long either, since he'll be one
hell of a screwed up person (ok, I'm going into extremes here, but you get my
point).

I don't believe in forcing porn upon young kids just to have them realise the
facts of life, but I also don't believe in this rigid censorship which has
ruined more lives troughout the years than drugs has. I believe that when a
6-year old kid comes asking you what words like "vagina" and "condom" mean, you
should have an open conversation in which the kid doesn't get the impression
it's something of a taboo, or evil/perverted. Of course, if I had a 6-year old
daughter and she came up to me asking "Daddy, what does 'sodomize' mean?", I
would be baffled at first too, and I don't really know if I would have an answer
for her right away, but then again, it's these moments that make parentship such
a fun job, I suppose. ;-)

Note, I don't have any kids, nor am I married myself. So these opinions are not
the ones of a parent, but the ones of the child of parents who always have had
an open policy about sex and sex-related questions. I turned out quite OK, and
so will many other kids if you give them a chance to prove they're actually more
mature than you'd think. Besides, censorship doesn't work, there's always
classmates who bring porn-mags into school etc... I'd prefer if my future kids
would learn about sex from me and my future wife, than from the other kids in
school.


On May 7 Marc wrote:

> finally some one says some thing about hate pages other than porn pages. i
> mean yes it is bad for a kid to see porn at a young age but what about
> seeing a hate filled sign? i guess morally any more porn is worse than hate.
> sorry for going off the topic but props to Del
> 

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Re: [newbie] Parental control

[Denis HAVLIK]

:~>Hello again.
:~>
:~>I was wondering if anyone could answer a query I have?
:~>
:~>Is it possible for root to view the history of a users browser?  I asking as I am

Sure. This would go into "spying your kids" cathegory. Now, addmiting that
I do not have such high opinion on "parental control" as you do, if you
want or need to, in linux you can pose rather arbitrary rules to your
users (kids), along the lines: playing quake allowed only from 6-8 PM,
forbidding http: acces to all the sites with "x" in name etc etc... 

(I really doubt that this will help you to make your kids "responsible
individuums", but it can be done.)

However, none of the distros I know of comes with anything similar
pre-configured, so you would have to configure things yourself.

cu
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Re: [newbie] Parental Control

[Mogens Jæger]

"L. H. LOO" wrote:

> At 08-05-2000 07:42 AM, you wrote:
> What if he got himself a spare set of power cords ? It is not that costly.
> Just my 0.002 cents' concern.
>
> >How, you may think, did I accomplish this? Well, when I went to work, so
> >did the power cords. While at home, the computer was usable by me only.

Or - more likely - went to some 'friends' (that so called 'bad company') to
'studie' natures expressions?
I don't know if it is my (Scandinavian) liberal point of vue that makes the
difference, but some times it makes me pi to watch the (for me to see)
typical American offence over a couple (or more) undressed people (mostly
females) as long as it is OK to broadcast tons of movies, where people (lots
of them) gets brutally slaugtered.
Sincerely
Mogens Jæger

Re: [newbie] Parental Control

[L. H. LOO]

At 08-05-2000 07:42 AM, you wrote:
What if he got himself a spare set of power cords ? It is not that costly. 
Just my 0.002 cents' concern.

>How, you may think, did I accomplish this? Well, when I went to work, so 
>did the power cords. While at home, the computer was usable by me only.

Re: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control

[Andy]

LOL it was me sorry i didnt know cause it was forwarded thats why i thought
it was to me Sorry ok im dropping itNOW
- Original Message -
From: Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 8:29 PM
Subject: Re: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control


> i think this whole discussion needs to die. everyone knows what is going
> on[i hope]so why not drop it. its not ones fault. just some one on the
lists
> business has a filter. live with it. sorry this whole thread is making me
> crazy lol
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 7:48 PM
> Subject: Re: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control
>
>
> | Why did i get this e-mail it has nothing to do with me. I dont know how
> you
> | can accuse me off this.
> | - Original Message -
> | From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 6:07 PM
> | Subject: Fw: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control
> |
> |
> | >
> | > I would like to have your system STOP sending these messages out to me
> | > and the other people on the mail group we are subscribed to, it is
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> | > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:33:44 -0500
> | > Subject: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control
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Re: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control

[Marc]

i think this whole discussion needs to die. everyone knows what is going
on[i hope]so why not drop it. its not ones fault. just some one on the lists
business has a filter. live with it. sorry this whole thread is making me
crazy lol
- Original Message -
From: "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control


| Why did i get this e-mail it has nothing to do with me. I dont know how
you
| can accuse me off this.
| - Original Message -
| From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 6:07 PM
| Subject: Fw: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control
|
|
| >
| > I would like to have your system STOP sending these messages out to me
| > and the other people on the mail group we are subscribed to, it is very
| > annoying and unnecessary.  If this is going into a business enviornment
| > then we apologize for this but we are not responsible and would like to
| > have these messages STOPPED.
| >
| > Thank You,
| >
| > don
| > I thought I knew that I knew what I thought
| > But now I know that what I thought I knew
| > Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew.
| >
| > - Forwarded message --
| > From: "'NS005 ChineseWall Demon'" <'NS005_ChineseWall_Demon'@txu.com>
| > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:33:44 -0500
| > Subject: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control
| > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Re: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control

[Andy]

OOPs i think i got something confused :) sorry i thoguht it was a personal
mesasge cause it was forwarded.
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From: Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control


> What from me? No I havent been sending you anything...?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 6:07 PM
> Subject: Fw: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control
>
>
> >
> > I would like to have your system STOP sending these messages out to me
> > and the other people on the mail group we are subscribed to, it is very
> > annoying and unnecessary.  If this is going into a business enviornment
> > then we apologize for this but we are not responsible and would like to
> > have these messages STOPPED.
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > don
> > I thought I knew that I knew what I thought
> > But now I know that what I thought I knew
> > Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew.
> >
> > - Forwarded message --
> > From: "'NS005 ChineseWall Demon'" <'NS005_ChineseWall_Demon'@txu.com>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:33:44 -0500
> > Subject: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >
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> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date:   05/09/2000 01:49:07 PM
> > Subject:Re: [newbie] Parental Control
>
> -
> > ---
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> >
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> > material that is discriminatory, hateful, vulgar, pornographic,
> > sexually-explicit, or obscene). This e-mail contains information that is
> > considered inappropriate for the business environment and has been
logged
> > and
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Re: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control

[Andy]

Why did i get this e-mail it has nothing to do with me. I dont know how you
can accuse me off this.
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 6:07 PM
Subject: Fw: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control


>
> I would like to have your system STOP sending these messages out to me
> and the other people on the mail group we are subscribed to, it is very
> annoying and unnecessary.  If this is going into a business enviornment
> then we apologize for this but we are not responsible and would like to
> have these messages STOPPED.
>
> Thank You,
>
> don
> I thought I knew that I knew what I thought
> But now I know that what I thought I knew
> Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew.
>
> - Forwarded message --
> From: "'NS005 ChineseWall Demon'" <'NS005_ChineseWall_Demon'@txu.com>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:33:44 -0500
> Subject: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
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> Date:   05/09/2000 01:49:07 PM
> Subject:Re: [newbie] Parental Control
> -
> ---
> 'ChineseWall Job' reports:
>
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Re: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control

[Andy]

What from me? No I havent been sending you anything...?

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 6:07 PM
Subject: Fw: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control


> 
> I would like to have your system STOP sending these messages out to me
> and the other people on the mail group we are subscribed to, it is very
> annoying and unnecessary.  If this is going into a business enviornment
> then we apologize for this but we are not responsible and would like to
> have these messages STOPPED.
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> don
> I thought I knew that I knew what I thought
> But now I know that what I thought I knew
> Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew.
> 
> - Forwarded message --
> From: "'NS005 ChineseWall Demon'" <'NS005_ChineseWall_Demon'@txu.com>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:33:44 -0500
> Subject: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> 
> MIMEsweeper ChineseWall
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> ---
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> 
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date:   05/09/2000 01:49:07 PM
> Subject:Re: [newbie] Parental Control
> -
> ---
> 'ChineseWall Job' reports:
> 
> TXU automatically screens all e-mail for inappropriate subject matter
> (i.e.
> material that is discriminatory, hateful, vulgar, pornographic,
> sexually-explicit, or obscene). This e-mail contains information that is
> considered inappropriate for the business environment and has been logged
> and
> will be reviewed to determine final disposition. If you have any
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Re: [newbie] Parental Control

[nodyak0]

Just if you want to use some of the Parental Control software, my ISP has
some on their site.  http://www.stic.net is their website if you would
like to see what they offer.

don
I thought I knew that I knew what I thought
But now I know that what I thought I knew
Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew.


On Mon, 08 May 2000 07:42:46 -0500 WolfRyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Being a parent, when I discovered my then 15 year old viewing porn 
> sites, 
> after specifically telling him he couldn't, he lost his computer 
> privileges 
> for 3 months. How, you may think, did I accomplish this? Well, when 
> I went 
> to work, so did the power cords. While at home, the computer was 
> usable by 
> me only.
> 
> Ultimately, parental control isn't a piece of software on a 
> computer, it's 
> the guts to say no and mean it, even if you take away the CPU or 
> Modem or 
> whatever needs removing. Passwording is another way. People rely to 
> heavily 
> on "something else" to do the monitoring for them instead of doing 
> for 
> themselves.
> 
> And I agree, hate sites rank right on up there with porn.
> 
> If anyone would like to discuss this further with me, feel free to 
> email me 
> directly.
> 
> Carol
>

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Fw: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control

[nodyak0]

I would like to have your system STOP sending these messages out to me
and the other people on the mail group we are subscribed to, it is very
annoying and unnecessary.  If this is going into a business enviornment
then we apologize for this but we are not responsible and would like to
have these messages STOPPED.

Thank You,

don
I thought I knew that I knew what I thought
But now I know that what I thought I knew
Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:33:44 -0500
Subject: ChineseWall Job Re: Re: [newbie] Parental Control
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



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Subject:Re: [newbie] Parental Control
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Re: [newbie] Parental Control

[Monte Milanuk]

WolfRyder wrote:
> 
> Being a parent, when I discovered my then 15 year old viewing porn sites,
> after specifically telling him he couldn't, he lost his computer privileges
> for 3 months. How, you may think, did I accomplish this? Well, when I went
> to work, so did the power cords. While at home, the computer was usable by
> me only.
> 
> Ultimately, parental control isn't a piece of software on a computer, it's
> the guts to say no and mean it, even if you take away the CPU or Modem or
> whatever needs removing. Passwording is another way. People rely to heavily
> on "something else" to do the monitoring for them instead of doing for
> themselves.
>

I agree.  I have Freesco running as my gateway right now, and I have an
old terminal set up so I can watch the dns queries out of the corner of
my eye as I am working in my computer/electronics/reloading/hobby room. 
Definitely has came in handy.  If I see a disturbing site name come up,
I check it out.  If it is objectional, well, that was the last time
anyone in this household will ever see it on my network.  Perhaps a bit
high-handed, but then I am the one responsible for making sure that
society gets a quality product in another 4 yrs, and I think this will
help steer towards that path.

Monte
> And I agree, hate sites rank right on up there with porn.
> 
> If anyone would like to discuss this further with me, feel free to email me
> directly.
> 
> Carol
> 
> At 04:42 AM 5/8/00 +0100, you wrote:
> 
> >Hi ~
> >
> >For Netscape cache files, go to the user's home directory and cd
> >.netscape/cache
> >
> >There are sixteen subdirectories of cached pages.
> >
> >Personally, I'd be more concerned about race-hate stuff than penthouse
> >pictures ;-)
> >
> >Del
> >
> >Hello again.
> >
> >I was wondering if anyone could answer a query I have?
> >
> >Is it possible for root to view the history of a users browser?  I
> >asking as I am
> >writing a newspaper article about the Linux system.  Here in England,
> >and I assume
> >elsewhere, there is great concern over the amount of control a parent
> >has over their
> >childrens viewing of the interent especially with the growing
> >prolifiation of porn sites.
> >
> >This is an area that I think Linux and open source distributors could
> >exploit.  With
> >parents as root and so able to give and cancel permissions, they would
> >have greater
> >control over when and for how long a child could be on the internet.  If
> >they can also
> >view the history logs of that users browser then again their worries
> >over what their
> >child has viewed can be diminished.
> >
> >Although free software is a plus and could creates a lot of interest, I
> >feel that security
> >is most on the minds of concerned parents and is an area that should be
> >highlighted if
> >Linux is to gain more supporters.
> >
> >I'm sorry if this is a bit long winded but I would be glad to here any
> >responses either
> >to my initial question or concerning the issue itself.
> >
> >  --
> >Andrew
> >Blackburn
> >England
> >
> >  --Learning at the deep end--
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Personal website for M.E. news, views & treatments:
> >   http://www.godot.connectfree.co.uk
> >   - home of the ME Medics Online Directory.
> >
> >
> >
> >

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Re: [newbie] Parental Control

[WolfRyder]

Being a parent, when I discovered my then 15 year old viewing porn sites, 
after specifically telling him he couldn't, he lost his computer privileges 
for 3 months. How, you may think, did I accomplish this? Well, when I went 
to work, so did the power cords. While at home, the computer was usable by 
me only.

Ultimately, parental control isn't a piece of software on a computer, it's 
the guts to say no and mean it, even if you take away the CPU or Modem or 
whatever needs removing. Passwording is another way. People rely to heavily 
on "something else" to do the monitoring for them instead of doing for 
themselves.

And I agree, hate sites rank right on up there with porn.

If anyone would like to discuss this further with me, feel free to email me 
directly.

Carol

At 04:42 AM 5/8/00 +0100, you wrote:

>Hi ~
>
>For Netscape cache files, go to the user's home directory and cd
>.netscape/cache
>
>There are sixteen subdirectories of cached pages.
>
>Personally, I'd be more concerned about race-hate stuff than penthouse
>pictures ;-)
>
>Del
>
>Hello again.
>
>I was wondering if anyone could answer a query I have?
>
>Is it possible for root to view the history of a users browser?  I
>asking as I am
>writing a newspaper article about the Linux system.  Here in England,
>and I assume
>elsewhere, there is great concern over the amount of control a parent
>has over their
>childrens viewing of the interent especially with the growing
>prolifiation of porn sites.
>
>This is an area that I think Linux and open source distributors could
>exploit.  With
>parents as root and so able to give and cancel permissions, they would
>have greater
>control over when and for how long a child could be on the internet.  If
>they can also
>view the history logs of that users browser then again their worries
>over what their
>child has viewed can be diminished.
>
>Although free software is a plus and could creates a lot of interest, I
>feel that security
>is most on the minds of concerned parents and is an area that should be
>highlighted if
>Linux is to gain more supporters.
>
>I'm sorry if this is a bit long winded but I would be glad to here any
>responses either
>to my initial question or concerning the issue itself.
>
>  --
>Andrew
>Blackburn
>England
>
>  --Learning at the deep end--
>
>
>
>--
>
>Personal website for M.E. news, views & treatments:
>   http://www.godot.connectfree.co.uk
>   - home of the ME Medics Online Directory.
>
>
>
>

[newbie] Parental control

[Andrew Scotchmer]

Hello again.

I was wondering if anyone could answer a query I have?

Is it possible for root to view the history of a users browser?  I asking as I am
writing a newspaper article about the Linux system.  Here in England, and I assume
elsewhere, there is great concern over the amount of control a parent has over their
childrens viewing of the interent especially with the growing prolifiation of porn 
sites.

This is an area that I think Linux and open source distributors could exploit.  With
parents as root and so able to give and cancel permissions, they would have greater
control over when and for how long a child could be on the internet.  If they can also
view the history logs of that users browser then again their worries over what their
child has viewed can be diminished.

Although free software is a plus and could creates a lot of interest, I feel that 
security
is most on the minds of concerned parents and is an area that should be highlighted if
Linux is to gain more supporters.

I'm sorry if this is a bit long winded but I would be glad to here any responses either
to my initial question or concerning the issue itself.

 -- 
Andrew
Blackburn
England

 --Learning at the deep end--